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| 00:18.39 | resudaed | anyone awake? |
| 00:19.48 | zimm | nope |
| 00:19.49 | cupis | no |
| 00:19.52 | cupis | duh! |
| 00:22.15 | Tarragon | occasionally |
| 00:25.09 | resudaed | has anyone had any luck with usb & cameras under linux? |
| 00:25.29 | resudaed | and would be able to give me some pointers on where to go to get info? |
| 00:27.07 | cupis | resudaed: I have. |
| 00:27.17 | cupis | my brother bought a camera a couple of days ago :) |
| 00:27.48 | cupis | www.gphoto.org is your best bet for stills, for video, google for video4linux and cross your fingers |
| 00:27.51 | resudaed | I have some pics on my camera, and I cannot be aresed to set up a windows box to get them |
| 00:28.04 | cupis | resudaed: what camera? |
| 00:28.29 | resudaed | fujifilm A201 |
| 00:29.05 | cupis | are you on Debian? |
| 00:29.08 | resudaed | yes |
| 00:29.20 | resudaed | (wat else :-)) |
| 00:29.27 | cupis | woody? got hotplug installed? |
| 00:29.27 | resudaed | s/wat/what |
| 00:29.47 | resudaed | sid, and I don't know, I havn't played with usb on here yet |
| 00:30.04 | cupis | resudaed: okay, apt-get install gphoto hotplug |
| 00:30.34 | cupis | actually, most of the fuji cameras seem to be usb mass-storage, so you won't need gphoto |
| 00:30.47 | cupis | and if you do need gphoto, install gphoto2, not gphoto |
| 00:30.52 | resudaed | I think this one is mass-storage |
| 00:31.04 | cupis | so what I'm trying to say is... |
| 00:31.19 | resudaed | it should be 'mountable'? |
| 00:31.35 | cupis | install hotplug, you should be able to mount the usb device |
| 00:32.10 | resudaed | ok, I have installed hotplug, where is the device at? |
| 00:32.45 | cupis | resudaed: plug the device in (or unplug it and plug it in again) |
| 00:32.53 | cupis | I assume you are kenel 2.4.x |
| 00:32.57 | cupis | kernel |
| 00:32.59 | resudaed | I am |
| 00:33.26 | cupis | oh, install usbview so you can see if it was detected okay |
| 00:33.43 | zimm | it should beep if it detects it |
| 00:34.07 | cupis | resudaed: are you using devfs? |
| 00:34.23 | resudaed | don't think so |
| 00:34.55 | resudaed | it has been found under usbview |
| 00:35.36 | cupis | okay, so you need to work out what device it is in /dev and mount it as vfat |
| 00:36.19 | resudaed | ok, by clicking configure, I get the location of the usbdevfs entry |
| 00:36.32 | resudaed | (maybe I do have devfs installed then) |
| 00:37.14 | cupis | resudaed: devfs is different to usbdevfs |
| 00:37.25 | cupis | resudaed: do you have /dev/.devfsd ? |
| 00:37.45 | cupis | or /dev/scsi |
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| 00:38.20 | resudaed | no |
| 00:38.57 | mazogs | hi |
| 00:38.57 | resudaed | hi mazogs |
| 00:39.48 | cupis | resudaed: neither? |
| 00:40.20 | resudaed | neither |
| 00:40.31 | cupis | okay |
| 00:40.53 | cupis | so the camera should be /dev/sd?? I think |
| 00:41.30 | resudaed | any idea which? |
| 00:41.36 | cupis | do you have any scsi stuff atm? or a CD writer using ide-scsi? |
| 00:41.45 | resudaed | cd writer using ide-scsi |
| 00:42.07 | cupis | resudaed: what device does that show up as? |
| 00:42.12 | Tarragon | My gphoto2 line is gphoto2 --camera "xyz" --port "usb:" -P |
| 00:42.29 | resudaed | just looking |
| 00:42.37 | cupis | Tarragon: mine is gphoto2 --auto-detect, but resudaed is not using gphoto2 |
| 00:43.35 | resudaed | scd0 |
| 00:44.05 | cupis | resudaed: try mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt |
| 00:44.24 | cupis | resudaed: it's a fair bet, and a good place to start |
| 00:44.59 | resudaed | no error |
| 00:45.14 | resudaed | got it |
| 00:45.36 | Tarragon | :-) |
| 00:45.43 | resudaed | thanks all |
| 00:45.58 | cupis | resudaed: you should be able to access the images - dunno what format pnm or something maybe - use file(1) |
| 00:46.06 | resudaed | jpg |
| 00:46.14 | cupis | ah cool |
| 00:46.43 | resudaed | what is the correct extension for a jpeg?? |
| 00:47.06 | resudaed | is jpg just shortened as such to comply with the old M$ 8.3 standards? |
| 00:48.25 | cupis | resudaed: it is jpg |
| 00:48.48 | cupis | and it is that instead of jpeg _becuase_ or the Microsoft 8.3 crap |
| 00:48.53 | cupis | s/or/of/ |
| 00:49.01 | resudaed | lol |
| 00:50.48 | cupis | okay, I'm off to sleep - night all |
| 00:52.33 | resudaed | wahey, my cue to sleep soon also (battery have died) |
| 00:54.47 | resudaed | Tarragon: the girl I was asking out for a drink 'couldn\'t' make it one time too many :-( but all is good, I've met my sisters friend's sister |
| 00:54.58 | resudaed | ;-) |
| 00:57.10 | zimm | jhehe |
| 00:57.54 | resudaed | morning zimm |
| 00:58.03 | zimm | morning fellow insomniac |
| 00:58.57 | resudaed | my first night at home since dec 29th |
| 00:59.29 | resudaed | (300 or so unread emails :-( ) |
| 00:59.56 | zimm | heh |
| 01:00.03 | zimm | where you been ? |
| 01:00.22 | resudaed | um ... |
| 01:00.32 | resudaed | her house :) |
| 01:01.25 | zimm | the sisters friends sister ? |
| 01:01.33 | resudaed | that'd be the one |
| 01:03.12 | resudaed | lol zimm ... |
| 01:04.16 | resudaed | after such a shite year last year (on all fronts), I deserve some luck at some point |
| 01:04.35 | resudaed | 2 new years resolutions to complete still |
| 01:05.09 | resudaed | :( harsh ... they always find the best times don't they |
| 01:05.42 | zimm | well , it was a "i need time to be myself for a bit" which turned into , "im shagging your mate " within 48 hours |
| 01:05.54 | resudaed | ooh, that's gotta hurt |
| 01:06.02 | zimm | yeh well , |
| 01:06.20 | resudaed | hopefully this should be a pretty stable relationship ... most things in my favour |
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| 01:06.45 | resudaed | I even get on with her brothers (g33ks) |
| 01:06.49 | zimm | hehe |
| 01:07.24 | resudaed | already met the parents |
| 01:08.37 | resudaed | there are 2 DT mp3's on my root http dir that are 'uncorrupted' (and wern't in the list last time you looked) |
| 01:08.51 | zimm | funky |
| 01:09.32 | zimm | url / |
| 01:09.33 | zimm | ? |
| 01:09.45 | resudaed | http://stolen.servemp3.com/ |
| 01:10.05 | resudaed | (or http://stolen.servehttp.com/mp3/) |
| 01:10.48 | zimm | yeh , i got it :-) |
| 01:11.46 | resudaed | I like my url (the servemp3 one), but I am a little unsure about the legality of so blatently 'serving' mp3s regardless of copyrights |
| 01:12.01 | zimm | heh |
| 01:12.20 | zimm | err , i have both of those ..(smoke on the water) (glass prison) |
| 01:12.26 | resudaed | at least with the other address, that is acutally where my mp3's reside, the fact the it is in /home/httpd not /home/tom is coincidental |
| 01:12.53 | Leeds | agk: you're a bastard! |
| 01:13.12 | resudaed | morning Leeds |
| 01:13.17 | Leeds | morning resudaed |
| 01:13.35 | resudaed | who is agk anyway? |
| 01:13.50 | Leeds | ibot agk |
| 01:13.55 | | i guess agk is somewhere to the west |
| 01:14.10 | Leeds | there - all you need to know :-) |
| 01:14.16 | resudaed | helpful |
| 01:14.33 | resudaed | I am |
| 01:14.39 | resudaed | now online somehwere |
| 01:14.48 | Leeds | he's Alasdair Kergon, and he's using a machine in the sistina.com domain, if that helps |
| 01:14.53 | highbury | nite folks |
| 01:15.02 | Leeds | night, highbury |
| 01:15.07 | resudaed | night highbury |
| 01:15.12 | zimm | laters highbury |
| 01:15.22 | Leeds | agk is also slowly but surely extending his control over all the Linux groups in the UK :-) |
| 01:15.30 | resudaed | http://stolen.servehttp.com/i/dscf0047.jpg |
| 01:15.52 | resudaed | (for all those that have no idea what I look like) |
| 01:16.04 | resudaed | (btw, I am the one on the right (top)) |
| 01:16.13 | zimm | lol , after looking at that they will still have no idea |
| 01:16.35 | Leeds | bloody hell - you should see a doctor about that acute blurriness |
| 01:16.39 | zimm | could you not find a darker one , its a little bright ! |
| 01:16.39 | resudaed | my camera battery died ... so no more today |
| 01:17.25 | resudaed | it also looks like I have a beard that covers most of my chin (not true) |
| 01:18.55 | resudaed | I am about to go to sleep ... the last week or so has been very ... um ... tiring |
| 01:19.14 | Leeds | I've had a bastard of a day |
| 01:19.37 | resudaed | mine wasn't to productive either |
| 01:19.42 | Leeds | and it's all agk's fault! |
| 01:20.38 | Leeds | my car is dead in a garage in Oxford :-( |
| 01:20.57 | resudaed | mine is without tax, and I am without license |
| 01:21.12 | Leeds | lost your license? |
| 01:21.22 | zimm | resudaed: i'll drive it for you ! |
| 01:21.30 | resudaed | no, never had one :) |
| 01:21.30 | Leeds | I hit a speedbump and killed mine :-) had a nightmare journey back from oxford :-( |
| 01:21.38 | Leeds | then why do you have a car? |
| 01:21.52 | resudaed | I am working on it |
| 01:21.57 | zimm | resudaed: give me , oooh £30/day , i'll chauffeur you round an stuff |
| 01:22.02 | resudaed | the engine waiting to go in is a 2.2l twin turbo |
| 01:22.21 | zimm | what car do you have anyway ? |
| 01:22.38 | resudaed | boy racer escort |
| 01:22.45 | zimm | what reg ? |
| 01:22.48 | zimm | L ? |
| 01:22.54 | resudaed | G |
| 01:23.00 | zimm | mk3 then ? |
| 01:23.06 | zimm | no , mk4 |
| 01:23.14 | zimm | hmm , |
| 01:23.23 | resudaed | but unlike most others that *look* the same, this one will move |
| 01:23.27 | zimm | hehe |
| 01:23.30 | zimm | they all say that |
| 01:24.07 | resudaed | but most of them have 1.6/8's and the occaisional turbo |
| 01:24.44 | zimm | so what is this you are dropping in ? a cosworth block ? |
| 01:25.27 | zimm | need an MT75 G'box to go with it unless you want shredded internals too |
| 01:25.56 | resudaed | TBH, I am not exactly sure of it's origin, I haven't even seen it yet, my mate (a mechanic) took it from a write-off |
| 01:27.04 | zimm | well , tbh , i havent heard of a 4 cyl 2.2 litre ford block .. , so im guessing its a 2 litre , and probably a cosworth if its twin turbo .. |
| 01:27.25 | zimm | if its a V6 you will def , need a new gearbox as well |
| 01:27.36 | zimm | as it just wont fit |
| 01:27.54 | zimm | but im no ford expert , so i'll shut up now |
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| 01:28.23 | resudaed | lol, the car already has a new gear box anyway, fitted with the intent of a bigger engine |
| 01:28.51 | resudaed | just posted on another server :-) ... |
| 01:28.52 | resudaed | !ChiSholm The.Lord.Of.The.Rings.The.Two.Towers.INTERNAL.CAM-TCF.CD1.rar |
| 01:29.10 | zimm | ? |
| 01:29.12 | resudaed | (my sisters christmas present part1) |
| 01:29.24 | zimm | and it is where ? |
| 01:29.34 | resudaed | I am currently having 'LOTR TTT' DCC'd to me |
| 01:29.48 | zimm | hehe |
| 01:29.57 | resudaed | irc.galaxynet.org #mp3files |
| 01:30.56 | resudaed | not only that, I am in que with parts 2 & 3 ranked 1 & 2 repsectivly in his que |
| 01:31.16 | zimm | hehe |
| 01:31.18 | zimm | funky |
| 01:31.53 | resudaed | no idea of the quality I am looking at, but who cares ... still not a bad present for probably the worlds biggest LOTR fan |
| 01:32.52 | resudaed | ok, supper then bed |
| 01:32.57 | resudaed | g'night zimm |
| 01:33.03 | zimm | laters |
| 01:33.12 | resudaed | (need to find job today) |
| 08:51.41 | dank_work | Morning |
| 09:08.28 | murb | moin |
| 09:14.24 | dank_work | It's too early in the morning :( |
| 09:14.46 | dank_work | But Demon confirmed ADSL would be turned on on the 9th |
| 11:46.52 | murb | seems i forgot to bring a pen with me to work, so no writing stuff down |
| 11:49.48 | Tarragon | Have Vi - Have printer.... |
| 12:43.53 | Trel | a pen? What is this old tech you talk of? |
| 12:44.09 | Trel | actually, I use those quite often, you need to to use a credit card |
| 12:53.20 | Tarragon | But they normally offer you a pen when you buy things so less reason to carry one. |
| 13:22.57 | eye69 | Ey, you Knoppix freaks...how do I become root? |
| 13:24.12 | eye69 | Nevermind...found it |
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| 14:12.31 | highbury | eye69: there's two different ways, but I'm sure you found at least one :-) |
| 14:13.26 | eye69 | highbury: ctrl-alt-3 |
| 14:14.24 | highbury | sudo su - |
| 14:33.04 | eye69 | Oh... |
| 14:33.06 | eye69 | Oh well... |
| 14:33.40 | eye69 | Used it to backup a collegues laptop which has a faulty drive...managed to get most of the stuff before it hit the bad sectors.. |
| 15:54.40 | murb | is anyone here thinking about fosdeming? |
| 15:56.56 | dank_work | Me |
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| 15:59.06 | dank_work | Hi Axel |
| 15:59.10 | Axel | hi Dan |
| 16:01.36 | dank_work | ADSL is arriving on the 9th :) |
| 16:01.45 | murb | dank: then you can work from home? |
| 16:02.06 | dank_work | Most of the stuff, I'd ideally need to be in the office |
| 16:02.18 | dank_work | But in theory, I could work from home |
| 16:02.26 | dank_work | Not that it's really worth it for me |
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| 16:32.13 | murb | anyone want some US kettle leads? |
| 16:39.08 | murb | does anyone know the provisional line up for the next gllug? |
| 16:50.43 | agk | MySQL & SELinux |
| 16:51.31 | agk | gllug website needs updating. |
| 16:51.33 | agk | (so does oxlug one) |
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| 17:12.38 | Tarragon | wb |
| 17:12.57 | ResuDaed | ty ... crash of some sort |
| 17:13.13 | dank_work | Dodgy hardware? |
| 17:13.24 | ResuDaed | that is what I am hoping to find out |
| 17:14.28 | ResuDaed | I have a feeling that the hdd was at fault ... is there a way I can check the *entire* hdd for bad sectors/signs of a failing disk |
| 17:14.48 | ResuDaed | (inc. swap) |
| 17:22.44 | dank_work | BIOS might have a low-level format facility |
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| 17:25.00 | ResuDaed | doubt it, tis a pretty basic bios |
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| 18:27.47 | highbury | I should be updating the GLLUG Website later today tomorrow, but I was waiting for more details on talks, but will put up preliminary details asap |
| 18:28.44 | Jenson | Ah good highbury I'm still trying to get my mate's to decide if they're coming to gllug |
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| 18:32.59 | Jenson | Ah, Dan, just the man I needed to ask something... |
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| 18:34.37 | Jenson | wb Dan |
| 18:34.49 | Jenson | Are you gonna stay long enough for me to ask what I need to ask? |
| 18:34.58 | dankolb_ | Thanks |
| 18:35.00 | dankolb_ | I'm convinced BT doesn't like me talking to you |
| 18:35.07 | dankolb_ | I don't know |
| 18:35.09 | dankolb_ | Depends on BT :) |
| 18:35.15 | dankolb_ | Try asking anyway |
| 18:35.22 | Jenson | Right then |
| 18:35.24 | Jenson | you know gllug |
| 18:35.34 | dankolb_ | :) |
| 18:35.38 | Jenson | Are you intending to go to the pub after the meet on the 18th? |
| 18:35.48 | dankolb_ | Yes |
| 18:35.52 | Jenson | Ah good |
| 18:35.58 | dankolb_ | Why? |
| 18:36.19 | Jenson | Coz I'm writing an email to one of my mates about how if they get bored with loitering with us and the computers they can go shopping and then meet us back for tyhe pub it. |
| 18:36.28 | Jenson | s/it/bit |
| 18:36.35 | ResuDaed | vening Jenson |
| 18:36.36 | dankolb_ | *nod* |
| 18:36.39 | dankolb_ | That's fine |
| 18:36.40 | Jenson | Hey ResuDaed |
| 18:36.51 | Jenson | Lemme just finish this mail coz it's nearly dinner time |
| 18:36.52 | dankolb_ | It's the Green Man - right outside Gt. Portland Street tube station |
| 18:36.53 | Jenson | BRB |
| 18:37.21 | ResuDaed | dankolb_: last time they didn't have the guinness on down there |
| 18:37.32 | dankolb_ | Find another pub then :) |
| 18:37.40 | dankolb_ | But that's the one we always go to |
| 18:38.18 | ResuDaed | :-) I know, I was just pointing out that he thought that was disgraceful behavour for a bar |
| 18:38.24 | ResuDaed | although the prices weren't bad |
| 18:38.35 | dankolb_ | Why can't wait, eye69? |
| 18:38.51 | Jenson | back |
| 18:39.02 | ResuDaed | hi again |
| 18:39.17 | murb | eye69: why? |
| 18:39.26 | Jenson | hey eye69, hey murb |
| 18:39.51 | Jenson | I'm gonna be at gllug whatever, but I'm not sure who else I'll be with other than Dan yet. |
| 18:39.53 | dankolb_ | So are you Gllugging then on the Saturday? |
| 18:39.59 | Jenson | That siuynded bad... |
| 18:40.04 | Jenson | I knew what I meant. |
| 18:40.09 | murb | depends on how tried and pissed off i am |
| 18:40.22 | Jenson | s/siuynded/sounded |
| 18:40.26 | murb | s/tried/tired/ |
| 18:40.35 | ResuDaed | I am 99% sure I'm going |
| 18:40.55 | Jenson | I meant whether my mates are with me or not, or whether they are there a little while and then go shopping and meet us at the pub or what. |
| 18:41.19 | dankolb_ | Their choice - I'll be at the meeting all the time |
| 18:41.38 | ResuDaed | just I'll probably be in Letchworth ... so is a case of can I get back after 11pm |
| 18:41.39 | Jenson | dankolb_: As will I. |
| 18:41.55 | dankolb_ | ResuDaed: Don't stay until the pubs shut then |
| 18:42.21 | ResuDaed | staying till pubs shut is a strange habbit of not noticing the time until I get thrown out |
| 18:42.27 | dankolb_ | Well, I guess |
| 18:42.38 | dankolb_ | I tended to stay until about 8/9pm, so I could get back at a reasonable hour |
| 18:42.42 | ResuDaed | brb |
| 18:43.07 | dankolb_ | Well, food's ready, so I got to go |
| 18:43.15 | dankolb_ | I'll be back later this evening |
| 18:43.20 | Jenson | See ya dankolb_ |
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| 18:44.02 | Jenson | wb ResuDaed |
| 18:44.24 | ResuDaed | mmm ... food |
| 18:44.48 | Jenson | Dinner will be ready in about 30 seconds |
| 18:44.53 | Jenson | I too will BBL |
| 18:45.00 | ResuDaed | #/me envys Jenson |
| 18:45.14 | Jenson | awwww |
| 18:45.21 | ResuDaed | shopping not arrive till tomorrow |
| 18:46.15 | Jenson | lol |
| 18:46.22 | Jenson | Anyway, see ya laterz |
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| 20:33.04 | eye69 | Evening... |
| 20:39.54 | highbury | hi there |
| 20:43.18 | eye69 | What talks are scheduled for the 18th? |
| 20:50.16 | highbury | it should be me doing it :-( |
| 20:50.27 | highbury | SE Linux + MySQL |
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| 21:13.01 | zachary | Good evening! |
| 21:13.53 | eye69 | Hello zachary! |
| 21:14.38 | zachary | How's everything? |
| 21:14.57 | eye69 | Everything's fine. I'm busy populating my server. :) |
| 21:15.20 | eye69 | It suddenly feels like I've got way too much free space. :) |
| 21:16.28 | zachary | If you have a free TB or two I could use it :-) |
| 21:16.33 | zachary | just joking |
| 21:18.23 | eye69 | Heh |
| 21:18.38 | eye69 | //yoshi/blackhole 111G 35G 76G 32% /mnt/blackhole |
| 21:18.47 | eye69 | Not too big, but enough for my needs... |
| 21:18.58 | eye69 | Got 90GB SCSI on the WS, so I'll manage :) |
| 21:20.44 | zachary | I actually need to resize my 80G to 60G ext3 and 20 Fat32. For video editing. |
| 21:21.27 | zachary | that probably looks bad. My systems Linux & Win2k is on a 40G |
| 21:21.53 | eye69 | I'm running LVM on the server. Very nice. |
| 21:22.46 | zachary | I want to try LVM sometime. the presentation by agk was great. |
| 21:23.04 | eye69 | I've run it before...it's very easy to handle... |
| 21:23.35 | zachary | If you're not complaining, I take it that the overhead is not much to worry about. |
| 21:24.26 | eye69 | Not really...it's only a p2/300 server, so it's not blazing fast to begin with :) |
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| 21:26.15 | eye69 | I run LVM1 though, since LVM2 isn't really production quality yet (or so I understand). |
| 21:26.28 | dankolb | Evening |
| 21:26.43 | eye69 | Hello dan |
| 21:26.47 | *** join/#gllug Jenson (Jenson@host213-123-63-119.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 21:26.51 | dankolb | Hi Jenson |
| 21:27.03 | eye69 | Hi Jenson |
| 21:27.56 | dankolb | She doesn't want to talk to us :) |
| 21:28.16 | eye69 | The nerve... |
| 21:28.19 | dankolb | Yeah |
| 21:28.27 | dankolb | Or maybe BT's doing to her what it always does to me |
| 21:28.38 | eye69 | You're about to get ADSL? |
| 21:28.43 | dankolb | I am, yeah |
| 21:28.45 | dankolb | On the 9th |
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| 21:28.57 | eye69 | Cool |
| 21:29.05 | dankolb | Thought so - BT problems |
| 21:29.10 | eye69 | Yup. |
| 21:29.14 | eye69 | Hi Jenson |
| 21:29.17 | Jenson | No, I dialed up wrong |
| 21:29.17 | eye69 | ...again... :) |
| 21:29.21 | dankolb | Dialed up wrong? |
| 21:29.23 | zachary | dankolb: Surfing the high seas! |
| 21:29.27 | Jenson | yeah |
| 21:29.31 | dankolb | Yeah |
| 21:29.33 | dankolb | How so? |
| 21:29.39 | Jenson | It kinda wasn't dailing up or connected, but I was on chat |
| 21:29.48 | dankolb | Erm |
| 21:29.49 | Jenson | My computer is mad. |
| 21:29.51 | dankolb | Yeah |
| 21:30.52 | Jenson | Does anyone know any household medicines that make good calming meds, coz I'm going mad here. |
| 21:31.20 | dankolb | Going mad? |
| 21:31.25 | dankolb | But you're online. Talk here :) |
| 21:31.27 | zachary | Jenson: 3 Wise Men. (Jack, Jim and Johnnie) |
| 21:32.22 | dankolb | No.That's bad |
| 21:32.52 | zachary | Jenson: What's wrong? |
| 21:34.01 | Jenson | zachary: It's like a million thoughts at once and I don't know what any of them are and I'm confused and everything |
| 21:34.59 | dankolb | Turn on Radio 3 - that may bore you enough to get thoughts out of your head :) |
| 21:35.09 | BorgBaby | Jenson: are you tripping? |
| 21:35.17 | Jenson | No BorgBaby |
| 21:35.29 | BorgBaby | just thought I'd check! ;-) |
| 21:35.33 | Jenson | I don't/have never done drugs. |
| 21:37.54 | Jenson | I don't think being so tired is helping me, I'm just all messed up. |
| 21:38.10 | dankolb | Get an early night then |
| 21:38.50 | Jenson | I should, but I'm not convinced I can sleep. |
| 21:39.02 | dankolb | You'll manage |
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| 21:42.11 | Jenson | Hey jessica |
| 21:42.12 | jessica | good evening everyone |
| 21:42.15 | dankolb | Hi jessica |
| 21:42.15 | jessica | hi jenson |
| 21:42.17 | zachary | ahhh, the wife found me |
| 21:42.23 | jessica | hi love |
| 21:42.27 | dankolb | Ahh :) |
| 21:42.33 | Jenson | Ah, hi zach's wife then, the geek girl! |
| 21:42.44 | jessica | :-) |
| 21:43.07 | jessica | how is every one doing tonight? |
| 21:43.13 | dankolb | I'm okay |
| 21:43.18 | Jenson | zachary: I take it you and jess aren't in the same house right now? |
| 21:43.22 | Jenson | I'm alright ty, you? |
| 21:43.39 | jessica | I'm doing good. getting ready to go to bed soon acutally |
| 21:43.59 | jessica | actually, we're about 2 feet from each other |
| 21:44.03 | Jenson | lmao |
| 21:44.16 | jessica | :) I know, heaven forbid we should talk to each other |
| 21:44.21 | Jenson | :) |
| 21:44.31 | Jenson | Don't worry I'm here chatting to my boy/f lol |
| 21:44.38 | Jenson | But he does live 100 miles away ;-) |
| 21:44.55 | Jenson | I'm a chick BTW |
| 21:45.12 | jessica | Zach's mentioned that :-) |
| 21:45.20 | Jenson | :) |
| 21:45.34 | Jenson | So you're the one who was having fun with the WS_FTP client.... |
| 21:45.53 | Jenson | I've spoken to you before I think, but I didn't realize you were zach's wife back then. |
| 21:46.24 | jessica | this is the first time i've logged in as jessica... i usually sign on as zachs_wife |
| 21:46.40 | eye69 | Hi jessica |
| 21:46.43 | Jenson | Ah, I'm just imagining it then |
| 21:46.45 | jessica | Hi eye |
| 21:47.14 | jessica | So I was doing a search on my netowrk at work and found duke nukem on it |
| 21:47.21 | eye69 | jessica: Cool |
| 21:47.26 | jessica | NO! not cool |
| 21:47.30 | eye69 | That's a quality game |
| 21:47.55 | jessica | yeah, for your home machine |
| 21:48.16 | eye69 | I don't even have any games on my WS |
| 21:48.25 | jessica | so i sent one of the tech's to remove it from the system. |
| 21:49.11 | jessica | the user didn't really like it though, or i should say he didn't like the fact that he got caught |
| 21:49.26 | eye69 | Heh |
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| 21:49.50 | eye69 | Luckily I'm the one that decides what a user has on their machines... |
| 21:50.12 | jessica | I am too but they seem to think they won't get caught |
| 21:50.34 | jessica | Found napster on a few too |
| 21:50.46 | Jenson | I put a program on my network at school....admins said it had a virus embedded in it. I didn't point out that if it did it had taken them 9 months to notice... |
| 21:50.47 | eye69 | dankolb: Patience |
| 21:51.00 | dankolb | Yeah. Only another few days... |
| 21:51.18 | jessica | funny Jenson |
| 21:51.24 | eye69 | dankolb: +10 or so, if it's anything like install procedures in .se |
| 21:51.46 | dankolb | Well, BT said they'd do the changeover on the 9th |
| 21:52.17 | jessica | so jenson, what do you do? |
| 21:52.52 | Jenson | jessica: As of taday, I'm leaving school....so absolutly nothing, my life is a bit of a mess, ask me when I've sorted it out. |
| 21:53.03 | jessica | okay, will do |
| 21:53.15 | Jenson | :) |
| 21:53.29 | Jenson | I intend to get to uni to do comp sci AI....eventually. |
| 21:55.01 | dankolb | :) |
| 21:55.02 | dankolb | Sure |
| 21:55.21 | Jenson | hehehe good |
| 21:55.33 | jessica | sorry to sound ignorant but what is AI? Is that like an associates degree? |
| 21:55.37 | Jenson | After all...I do already have 10 GCSEs and 1 AS Level |
| 21:55.43 | dankolb | Artificial Intelligence |
| 21:55.48 | Jenson | ty hon |
| 21:56.12 | jessica | okay, thanks |
| 22:01.15 | jessica | nah, she'd short out the keyboard with all the drooling - teething- |
| 22:01.47 | Jenson | Oh well, some other time then. |
| 22:01.53 | jessica | she was the spawn of satan over the weekend |
| 22:02.01 | jessica | very grumpy |
| 22:02.34 | Jenson | Well, she *is* female, and we know what they can be like :) |
| 22:02.52 | jessica | lol, this is true |
| 22:03.16 | zachary | very true! |
| 22:03.26 | jessica | hey! hush! |
| 22:03.27 | Jenson | lol :P |
| 22:03.59 | jessica | zach's working on the web page |
| 22:04.21 | Jenson | :) |
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| 22:06.31 | Jenson | I have the Smiths version too somewhere |
| 22:06.33 | Jenson | wb BorgBaby |
| 22:07.05 | ResuDaed | evening (again) all |
| 22:07.11 | Jenson | Ah, hey ResuDaed |
| 22:07.22 | dankolb | Hi ResuDaed |
| 22:07.23 | zachary | Good evening ResuDaed |
| 22:08.32 | ResuDaed | who's jessica ? |
| 22:08.56 | zachary | my wife |
| 22:09.14 | ResuDaed | (in a nosy 'I knew everyone else on the list' sort of way) |
| 22:09.22 | Jenson | :) |
| 22:09.50 | ResuDaed | I have ibot for that |
| 22:09.57 | Jenson | FYI ResuDaed Jess usually logs in as 'zachs_wife' |
| 22:10.07 | ResuDaed | ibot ResuDaed |
| 22:10.09 | | it has been said that resudaed is finally using a respectable version of linux, or has a thing (about debian) |
| 22:10.17 | Jenson | ibot jessica |
| 22:10.19 | | Jenson: bugger all, i dunno |
| 22:10.28 | dankolb | ibot Jenson |
| 22:10.30 | | somebody said jenson was a geek girl, or not in London, or a little crazy, or killing her computer on a regular basis, or innocent and clean-minded, or not, or any number of other things, or having a lot of things added to her profile by the naughty geek guys, or also adding them herself. Red Bull makes her hot, or a Slackware user (or pretends she has the slightest clue what she's doing) |
| 22:10.41 | Jenson | ibot jessica is zach's wife |
| 22:10.43 | | Jenson: okay |
| 22:11.05 | Jenson | ibot Jessica |
| 22:11.07 | | rumour has it, jessica is zach's wife |
| 22:11.15 | Jenson | That's better.... |
| 22:11.30 | Jenson | Who owns ibot? |
| 22:12.00 | ResuDaed | Tim Riker |
| 22:12.51 | Jenson | Coz someone needs to delete that damn bit about Red Bull that Paul added for me. |
| 22:13.05 | dankolb | :) |
| 22:13.13 | dankolb | What about the Slackware user |
| 22:13.39 | Jenson | Well if the other bit is deleted it won't sound like Slack users make me hot...so it'll be ok |
| 22:13.48 | dankolb | Hehe :) |
| 22:13.55 | dankolb | But some do... |
| 22:14.03 | Jenson | :) |
| 22:14.28 | dankolb | It's no trouble |
| 22:14.38 | Jenson | I'm not trouble either.... |
| 22:14.40 | ResuDaed | not slack, Jenson |
| 22:14.42 | ResuDaed | lol |
| 22:14.50 | Jenson | lol |
| 22:14.53 | jessica | cool, i'm in ibot |
| 22:14.54 | Jenson | I knew what you meant |
| 22:15.08 | ResuDaed | ;) |
| 22:15.19 | Jenson | Yeah Jess....just don't let the naughty geek guys add loads of stuff like they did for me. |
| 22:16.15 | ResuDaed | I think I am drifting from the g33k bit |
| 22:16.32 | Jenson | You're more geek than me ResuDaed |
| 22:16.51 | jessica | okay, thanks for the advice |
| 22:16.53 | ResuDaed | at the moment, but I am going downhill |
| 22:17.09 | dankolb | Downhill? |
| 22:17.11 | dankolb | how? |
| 22:17.47 | ResuDaed | my potential is rapidly becoming kinetic |
| 22:18.10 | ResuDaed | (cryptic answer that only a select few would *fully* appreciate) |
| 22:18.20 | Jenson | I understand it |
| 22:18.21 | Jenson | I think |
| 22:18.26 | dankolb | Yeah... |
| 22:18.30 | Jenson | Physics reference.... |
| 22:18.37 | dankolb | But how does that make you less geek? |
| 22:18.37 | Jenson | That's about as far as I understand |
| 22:18.52 | Jenson | about potential kinetic energy ro something...or am I confused? |
| 22:19.01 | dankolb | You're not confused |
| 22:19.06 | zachary | ResuDaed: Is gravity getting the best of you? |
| 22:19.12 | ResuDaed | the fact that you think you do means that you have read it litterally, and therefore have misunderstood |
| 22:19.34 | Jenson | ResuDaed: I'm stupid ok I know that |
| 22:19.40 | dankolb | You're not stupid |
| 22:19.42 | ResuDaed | gravity has always been a problem |
| 22:19.44 | Jenson | And I really son't give a fuck |
| 22:19.50 | Jenson | coz I know I'm stupid |
| 22:19.53 | dankolb | You're not |
| 22:19.58 | Jenson | And I've workd it out now |
| 22:20.01 | Jenson | God I'm stupid |
| 22:20.07 | jessica | well, good night room... oh wait, thats from astanzi's book.... anyways, nice chatting |
| 22:20.09 | jessica | bye |
| 22:20.16 | ResuDaed | your not stupid, most were not meant to understand it |
| 22:20.41 | ResuDaed | but I'd be interested on what you think it means |
| 22:21.01 | ResuDaed | (beyond the physics reference) |
| 22:21.23 | Jenson | I don't actually care what I think it means |
| 22:21.28 | Jenson | Coz I'll be wrong anyway |
| 22:21.32 | ResuDaed | I do |
| 22:21.42 | ResuDaed | it's one of those english litterature things |
| 22:22.01 | Jenson | English lit was the one subject I never understood |
| 22:22.15 | Jenson | I scared the teachers with my lovely selfharm poems though |
| 22:22.23 | BorgBaby | i'm off - laters everyone |
| 22:22.26 | *** part/#gllug BorgBaby (~BorgBaby@modem-362.tailslide.dialup.pol.co.uk) |
| 22:22.26 | dankolb | bye BorgBaby |
| 22:22.33 | ResuDaed | where they try and get you to analyse poetry when you know that the guy wrote it randomly |
| 22:22.56 | Jenson | Yeah that, and the fact that what it means to you could never be right |
| 22:23.24 | ResuDaed | exactly, so you have nothing to lose by being wrong, and if your right, you probably know me better than I do (you wouldn't be the first) |
| 22:23.53 | Jenson | I don't think I even understand it. |
| 22:24.00 | ResuDaed | actually, you would ... I don't think there is anyone that ever understood me |
| 22:24.48 | Jenson | In my present state of mind it hits me as something about losing the knowledge you thought you had, and it all gets away from you, and the world collapses around you.......but I'm a little messed up right now/ |
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| 22:26.37 | Jenson | hey cupis |
| 22:26.43 | dankolb | Hi cupis? |
| 22:26.51 | Jenson | You can now tell me I'm insane ResuDaed |
| 22:26.58 | cupis | hi all |
| 22:27.05 | ResuDaed | not losing the knowledge, but losing most of everything else I *thought* I had, and in some kind of resultant chain reaction losing track of what is important in life spiraling deeper into the world of insanity ... the escape that was once hacking (in the true sense of the word) is no longer such |
| 22:27.34 | ResuDaed | you may all tell me I am insane now :-) |
| 22:27.38 | Jenson | ResuDaed: In which case I was right. |
| 22:27.46 | Jenson | I was gonna word it like that too |
| 22:28.00 | ResuDaed | cupis, you did |
| 22:28.05 | Jenson | My life is so like that at the moment too. |
| 22:28.40 | ResuDaed | I should write a book :-) |
| 22:29.07 | ResuDaed | so I can look back in a few years and laugh :-D |
| 22:29.43 | Jenson | Well seenas I'm officially gonna leave school this week. I'm officially unemployed, fucked up, not deserving to be among the living, with no qualifications worth having, and no-one here actually wan't to know anyway |
| 22:30.06 | dankolb | wan't? |
| 22:30.13 | ResuDaed | ha, Jenson, that's the exact position I am in at the moment |
| 22:30.25 | Jenson | dankolb: Yeah, new word |
| 22:30.37 | ResuDaed | welcome to the world of the geek scum |
| 22:30.38 | dankolb | You deserve to be among the living |
| 22:30.48 | Jenson | ResuDaed: No wonder I understood what you meant.... |
| 22:31.01 | ResuDaed | I am thinking of starting an underground cult of some description |
| 22:31.25 | Jenson | Good idea ResuDaed. A selfharming cult of insane unemployed geeks |
| 22:33.08 | ResuDaed | I may still make my mark amongst the great philosophers |
| 22:33.18 | ResuDaed | lol |
| 22:33.31 | ResuDaed | except then dankolb can't join in :) |
| 22:33.37 | Jenson | Exactly |
| 22:33.39 | dankolb | Oi |
| 22:34.21 | dankolb | Oh go do it. If you have no intention of getting better, that is |
| 22:34.38 | Jenson | I'm not doing it, I gave it up. |
| 22:35.09 | dankolb | Good |
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| 23:02.00 | cupis | wb |
| 23:02.07 | Jenson | ty cupis |
| 23:23.42 | Jenson | on extremetech? |
| 23:23.44 | murb | s/ssh thing/bugtraq post/ |
| 23:23.59 | dankolb | You should be okay if you use Privsep |
| 23:31.31 | murb | I think that was a joke |
| 23:31.50 | murb | did you read their references for that? |
| 23:31.58 | murb | it is quite funny |
| 23:32.21 | murb | anyway p60-0x06 |
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| 23:41.11 | dankolb | wb BorgBaby |
| 23:41.16 | BorgBaby | hi again |
| 23:41.22 | Jenson | wb BorgBaby |
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| 23:42.45 | dankolb | Hi omphe |
| 23:43.17 | BorgBaby | me? |
| 23:43.50 | dankolb | No. omphe |
| 23:43.58 | BorgBaby | ah |
| 23:44.36 | Jenson | Who the hell was omphe? |
| 23:45.16 | dankolb | Don't know |
| 23:45.22 | dankolb | But he was on #linuxcafe |
| 23:45.50 | Jenson | Ah I see. Memoserve didn't tell me that |
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| 23:50.51 | Jenson | wb |
| 23:51.17 | dankolb | thanks |
| 23:51.19 | dankolb | Bloody 2-hour disconnects |
| 23:51.39 | Jenson | You're meant to notice |
| 23:51.45 | Jenson | I had an excuse it was 1hr 30 |
| 23:51.59 | dankolb | It's your fault - I was talking to you and didn't notice the time :) |
| 23:52.43 | Jenson | Don't make me come over there and......<not suitable for public viewing> |
| 23:53.02 | Jenson | lol |
