| 00:01.22 | zimm | hehe , |
| 00:25.40 | Leeds | "BBC Digital Radio - One Land, One Love, One Listener" - I'm proud to be the listener :-) |
| 00:25.48 | dankolb | :) |
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| 00:26.25 | Leeds | I'm just listening to Dead Ringers... |
| 00:27.09 | dankolb | on what station? |
| 00:27.21 | Leeds | Radio TiVo :-) |
| 00:27.56 | dankolb | ahh |
| 00:27.57 | dankolb | :) |
| 00:28.35 | Leeds | I was listening to 6music before, while my TiVo was recording stuff for me :-) |
| 00:29.18 | dankolb | cool |
| 00:29.27 | dankolb | So you're listening to the Radio4 Dead Ringers? |
| 00:29.36 | Leeds | yeah |
| 00:29.57 | dankolb | cool |
| 00:31.18 | Leeds | I love their list of weird and wonderful BBC digital stations - it's so true :-) |
| 00:31.44 | dankolb | bbc13 :) |
| 00:31.51 | Leeds | yeah, just heard that one |
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| 00:32.11 | Leeds | I like the BBC12 (or whatever) for people who are afraid that people who listen to 1extra will mug them :-) |
| 00:32.24 | dankolb | :) |
| 00:33.30 | Leeds | but then I like Phil(l) Jupitus' comment from his interview with Ms. Dynamite - she said she started on pirate radio, and their competitors would steal their aerials - Phil(l) said he was worried about 1extra :-) |
| 00:36.43 | Leeds | http://www.megatokyo.com/index.php?strip_id=9 |
| 00:43.29 | dankolb | I need sleep |
| 00:43.31 | dankolb | Good night |
| 12:28.46 | Trel | afternoon |
| 12:30.15 | eye69 | Hello |
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| 16:34.27 | dankolb | Afternoon |
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| 16:52.29 | dankolb | Food time |
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| 17:25.52 | formi | evening |
| 17:26.07 | Leeds | yes, it is :-( that was a wasted day... |
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| 17:26.55 | Leeds | hiya |
| 17:27.09 | Jenson | heya Leeds |
| 17:27.45 | formi | I finally got my pcmcia nic, one like the one I already had, but with dongle |
| 17:28.09 | formi | oddly enough £15 in cex, when at the fairs they wanted double that |
| 17:28.28 | Leeds | told you to go to cex :-) |
| 17:29.09 | formi | the last one I bought in cex was a dlink and I paid £28, and spend £6 in bus fares |
| 17:29.27 | formi | cause I had to go back twice due to the cards not working |
| 17:30.18 | Leeds | it's pretty much pot luck... I haven't actually bought anything there for years, but I had okay experiences when I did |
| 17:31.36 | eye69 | cex? |
| 17:31.54 | formi | I had to kick a fuss because one of thme was dodgy only working only sometimes |
| 17:32.07 | Leeds | computer exchange |
| 17:32.13 | eye69 | Oh |
| 17:32.17 | eye69 | Where's that? |
| 17:32.40 | Leeds | there are a few - at least TCR, Harrow, Watford, Leeds (dunno if it's still there) and cex.co.uk |
| 17:32.50 | eye69 | I really need to get to grips with where to buy hardware in London |
| 17:32.57 | Leeds | they are the ones I've shopped at :-) |
| 17:33.07 | Leeds | cex is a sort of last resort place... |
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| 17:34.28 | Leeds | good food? |
| 17:34.53 | dankolb | Yeah, not too bad |
| 17:35.01 | dankolb | Eaten a bit much, though |
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| 17:37.54 | Jenson | hey CyrilB |
| 17:37.55 | Leeds | hey CyrilB - you going to fosdem? |
| 17:38.04 | CyrilB | hi everyone |
| 17:38.09 | CyrilB | Leeds: when is fosdem? |
| 17:38.12 | Jenson | Wgo actually is going to FOSDEM (I've decided I'm not) |
| 17:38.44 | eye69 | Hello Cyril |
| 17:38.45 | Leeds | 7/8/9 feb |
| 17:38.46 | CyrilB | I'm leaving to Russia in a week, for a month |
| 17:38.55 | Leeds | good excuse :-) |
| 17:39.08 | CyrilB | hi eye69 |
| 17:39.16 | CyrilB | Leeds: too bad |
| 17:39.43 | CyrilB | I'm gonna take the trans-siberian train from Vladivostok to Moscow |
| 17:39.49 | CyrilB | 9200 km |
| 17:40.00 | CyrilB | then I'll go to St Petersburg and Helsinki in Finland |
| 17:40.02 | Leeds | cool... all I've done is the sleeper from Moscow to St. Pertersburg |
| 17:41.18 | CyrilB | Leeds: during winter? |
| 17:41.39 | Jenson | Isn't it summer in Russia ATM |
| 17:41.41 | Leeds | no! summer... |
| 17:41.44 | dankolb | no |
| 17:41.51 | Leeds | Jenson: Russia is also in the northern hemisphere |
| 17:41.56 | Leeds | it's summer in .au |
| 17:41.57 | dankolb | Right. I'm off now. |
| 17:42.03 | dankolb | I'll be back this evening |
| 17:42.05 | Jenson | See ya Dan |
| 17:42.11 | Leeds | seeya |
| 17:43.16 | CyrilB | anyway it's never summer in russia ;-) |
| 17:43.23 | Jenson | Well true |
| 17:44.05 | Leeds | it was okay when I was there - not great, but not freezing... we even saw a little sun |
| 17:44.18 | CyrilB | Leeds: when was it? |
| 17:44.19 | Leeds | we're making plans for nigel again |
| 17:44.40 | Leeds | 1993 |
| 17:44.45 | Leeds | fuck - 10 years ago! |
| 17:44.54 | Jenson | 1993......I was 8! |
| 17:44.55 | CyrilB | Leeds: but when during the year ? |
| 17:45.02 | Leeds | oh - June-ish |
| 17:46.31 | CyrilB | Leeds: ok |
| 17:46.49 | Leeds | it was a few months before the attempted communist coup :-) |
| 17:46.55 | CyrilB | everyone says I'm crazy to go there in January/Februaru |
| 17:47.02 | CyrilB | s/.$/y/ |
| 17:47.13 | Leeds | Siberia? really? ;-) |
| 17:48.24 | CyrilB | :) |
| 17:49.31 | Leeds | you know they used to use that as the ultimate punishment/torture? short of death, of course |
| 17:54.02 | Jenson | CyrilB: Is there a reason you are going now, or have you just chosen now. |
| 17:58.47 | CyrilB | The reason is that I'm free at this time and I've found someone else in the same situation: nothing to do, want to go there, enought money, speaks russian, ... |
| 17:59.08 | Leeds | good enough reasons |
| 17:59.21 | CyrilB | we don't know how long we'll have nothing to do (no job) so we've decided to go there now |
| 17:59.24 | Leeds | you don't speak russian then? |
| 17:59.39 | CyrilB | niet |
| 17:59.54 | CyrilB | I've already seen Finland in summer, but it's not really finland |
| 18:00.05 | CyrilB | I took 3 Russian courses |
| 18:00.07 | Leeds | me neither... but my school teaches (taught? I don't know) Russian, so a bunch of us went on the school trip |
| 18:00.22 | Leeds | I took one term of russian |
| 18:00.31 | Leeds | 11 years ago :-) |
| 18:02.09 | Jenson | Leeds: You are making yourself sound old....and you aren't old :) |
| 18:02.43 | Leeds | Jenson: you're just young... |
| 18:04.13 | Jenson | Leeds: I'm not that young lol |
| 18:04.36 | Leeds | if you say so :-) |
| 18:04.41 | Jenson | :D |
| 18:05.49 | formi | does anyone know about the prizes for the proposed geek paintball mess? |
| 18:06.03 | Leeds | pride, I think |
| 18:06.15 | Leeds | it's simply a case of some people from one LUG challenging all comers... |
| 18:06.36 | Leeds | if there are enough LUGs involved, we could probably get some donated stuff for it |
| 18:06.43 | Jenson | Paintball....good idea! |
| 18:06.53 | formi | s/z/s |
| 18:07.02 | formi | prices i meant |
| 18:07.20 | Leeds | Jenson: you're on the GLLUG list now aren't you? |
| 18:07.26 | Jenson | Yeah Leeds |
| 18:07.33 | formi | jenson, read it |
| 18:07.49 | Jenson | Good idea |
| 18:07.56 | Jenson | I have all todays and yesrterdays to read.... |
| 18:08.04 | Jenson | 238 msgs |
| 18:08.35 | Leeds | Jono Bacon, representing Wolves LUG, I think, issued a challenge on the lugmasters list |
| 18:09.09 | Jenson | That's like on Quake Clan challenging another..... |
| 18:09.14 | Jenson | s/on/one |
| 18:11.05 | Leeds | indeed... except that most/many of us aren't regular paintballers :-) I've done it once - very fun |
| 18:11.46 | formi | i used to do it, with apples, less polluting much cheaper |
| 18:12.35 | Jenson | I've never paintballed....I would like to, either that or Quasar |
| 18:13.54 | Leeds | I used to laserquest (like Quasar) a lot - not done it for years, apart from a work trip last year when I beat everyone else... and formi will confirm I'm not really built for it :-) |
| 18:15.31 | formi | i won't confirm it, it would take too long, :-} |
| 18:15.36 | Jenson | Leeds: Being built for it isnb't all that important if you can do it anyway. |
| 18:15.59 | Jenson | I'm assuming I'll see you on the 18th at gllug anyway Leeds? |
| 18:16.08 | Leeds | yeah... you're coming down for it then? |
| 18:16.31 | Jenson | I am (providing I don't have an argument with Dan between now and then) |
| 18:16.55 | formi | well, stop using irc then |
| 18:17.08 | Leeds | I can keep either of you off this channel if that would help :-) |
| 18:17.22 | Jenson | Leeds: Nah, it probably wouldn't |
| 18:17.28 | *** mode/#gllug [+o Leeds] by ChanServ |
| 18:17.35 | Jenson | formi: How would me stopping using IRC help? |
| 18:18.26 | formi | it would lower the chance of a fight with dan |
| 18:18.47 | Jenson | lol Leeds |
| 18:19.50 | Leeds | ibot change 138 euro to gbp |
| 18:20.17 | Jenson | You mean lower the chance of me talking to him too much or stop me flirting at all with other guys? |
| 18:20.47 | Leeds | both :-) |
| 18:20.56 | Jenson | :) |
| 18:20.57 | formi | £1 = EU 1.5 more or less |
| 18:21.31 | formi | that made my life much easier on holidays |
| 18:21.35 | Leeds | I just use ibot :-) |
| 18:22.17 | eye69 | ibot change 1 gbp to sek |
| 18:22.19 | formi | i was away from computers most of the time, I missed a lot having an internet connection |
| 18:22.21 | Leeds | I've just sent out a mail about prices for travel and acommodation for fosdem... hence the conversion |
| 18:22.36 | eye69 | Damn...the £ has lost a lot of weight... |
| 18:22.43 | eye69 | Not long ago it was 15... |
| 18:22.50 | Leeds | ibot currency for israel |
| 18:24.22 | Leeds | ibot change 1 gbp to nis |
| 18:24.34 | Leeds | dumb bot |
| 18:25.06 | formi | ibot change 1 pount to pesetas |
| 18:25.10 | formi | ibot change 1 pound to pesetas |
| 18:25.26 | Leeds | no such thing as pesetas |
| 18:25.34 | formi | really |
| 18:25.37 | formi | I have a few |
| 18:25.39 | Jenson | It's the Euro |
| 18:26.00 | Leeds | I may have a few somewhere... still, it's legally obselete |
| 18:26.17 | Leeds | ibot change gbp to euro |
| 18:26.33 | Leeds | bloody political bots... |
| 18:27.41 | formi | leeds you can still change them |
| 18:27.54 | Leeds | yeah, I know |
| 18:28.08 | formi | there are about 19bn pesetas lying around |
| 18:28.26 | formi | bn as 1.000 million |
| 18:29.15 | Leeds | that's about 30 euros, right> |
| 18:29.37 | eye69 | I want to play Sim City 4, but my graphics card wont work in 98 and a bunch of games refused to work in w2k |
| 18:30.03 | formi | ibot multiply 19 by 166 |
| 18:30.04 | | formi: wish i knew |
| 18:30.10 | Leeds | I'm tempted to put me on mine (only because I knew where I can get a copy easily) |
| 18:30.16 | Leeds | ibot 19 * 166 |
| 18:30.16 | | 3154 |
| 18:30.34 | eye69 | I had only problems with ME last I tried it |
| 18:30.46 | eye69 | Bluescreens constantly... |
| 18:30.57 | formi | 3155 .000.000.000.000 gbp |
| 18:31.02 | Leeds | well, I know where there's a copy because I put it on my cousin's machine... and it works for them |
| 18:31.19 | Leeds | it's not like I'd use it for anything which matter... purely games |
| 18:31.26 | eye69 | Besides, ME is just 98 with a few good bits removed |
| 18:31.41 | eye69 | Yeah, XP will be purely for games here as well |
| 18:32.31 | Jenson | I managed to get 98SE to run stable..apart from the damn shutdown issue which should be resolved I've crashed programs in this as many times in the last month as I have in KDE |
| 18:33.23 | eye69 | You ran W98 for one day and KDE for the rest of the month? :) |
| 18:33.51 | Jenson | I ran KDE for about 2 hours, and Win the rest of the time...I don't really understand Linux in the slightest |
| 18:34.29 | formi | have you tried knoppix jenson? |
| 18:34.33 | Jenson | My mate was whinging that XP is too easy the other day... |
| 18:34.48 | Jenson | Not yet formi, Dan kinda put me off Debian |
| 18:35.03 | eye69 | Jenson: How did he do that? |
| 18:35.25 | formi | knoppix is what debian should aspire to in user friendly terms |
| 18:35.35 | Jenson | eye69: He says that some Debian users are complete wankers and that it's a not nice distro |
| 18:35.52 | Jenson | I'm meant to be fixing my other computer to install FreeBSD on. |
| 18:35.54 | eye69 | Ok........ |
| 18:36.22 | Jenson | :) |
| 18:38.00 | Jenson | I think I'll go and investigate Linux or the other system that's dead or something |
| 18:38.01 | Jenson | BBL |
| 18:38.11 | Jenson | I'll be back about 21:30 if not before. |
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| 18:53.02 | eye69 | 19:52:15 * sgeiger clears his throat: this is #debian, people. #jerryspringer |
| 18:53.02 | eye69 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:08.18 | formi | re |
| 20:35.56 | skugg | saturday night light entertainment: http://www.vince.ukshells.co.uk/files/Scousersintheoffice.jpg |
| 20:37.03 | formi | so should go and drink something |
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| 21:14.34 | dankolb | Hm. Dead-Ringers type on BBC7 now |
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| 21:23.21 | Jenson | Hey guys |
| 21:23.24 | dankolb | hi |
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| 21:31.33 | dankolb | hi cupis |
| 21:31.36 | Jenson | hey cupis |
| 21:31.51 | cupis | hullo |
| 21:32.29 | dankolb | how's it going? |
| 21:32.50 | cupis | yeah okay. Weekend again :) |
| 21:32.59 | cupis | you? |
| 21:33.02 | dankolb | so-so |
| 21:33.10 | cupis | only so-so? |
| 21:33.10 | dankolb | not wonderful |
| 21:33.22 | Jenson | cupis: Long story...my fault again |
| 21:33.37 | cupis | oh Jenson. What have you done? |
| 21:33.43 | Jenson | cupis: Don't ask |
| 21:33.45 | cupis | dankolb: what's she done? |
| 21:33.52 | cupis | Jenson: too late |
| 21:34.05 | dankolb | so I haven't asked too much |
| 21:34.10 | dankolb | I just know enough |
| 21:34.41 | cupis | hmmm |
| 21:35.58 | Jenson | You can tell him if you want dankolb |
| 21:36.16 | dankolb | you tell him |
| 21:36.32 | Jenson | Why would I want to tell him. |
| 21:36.43 | cupis | neither of you want to tell me? |
| 21:36.51 | Jenson | Obviously not |
| 21:36.57 | dankolb | To be quite honest, not particularly. I'd rather not think about it |
| 21:37.03 | dankolb | sorry :-/ |
| 21:37.04 | cupis | fair enough |
| 21:37.16 | cupis | dankolb: sorry? |
| 21:37.24 | Jenson | I'd rather not think about it either, coz I'm quite fucking stupid |
| 21:37.29 | dankolb | think.....gf getting it on with other guy |
| 21:37.34 | dankolb | (who already has a gf) |
| 21:37.50 | cupis | ah. whoops. |
| 21:38.05 | Jenson | think...(that makes it sound worse than it was) |
| 21:38.16 | Leeds | you're fucking who? |
| 21:38.23 | Leeds | dankolb isn't that bad... |
| 21:38.24 | Jenson | I aint fucking anyone |
| 21:38.37 | dankolb | you ain't gonna, if you keep acting like you did |
| 21:39.00 | Jenson | Does the whole channel want us to argue about it in front of them |
| 21:39.01 | Jenson | ? |
| 21:39.18 | dankolb | they asked |
| 21:39.26 | cupis | "my name is john johnson, but everyone here calls me vicky" |
| 21:39.32 | dankolb | depends what you do.... |
| 21:42.20 | dankolb | Leeds: What's going to happen about the FOSDEM bookings? |
| 21:42.46 | Leeds | dankolb: are you on the list? I'm just replying to Pete... |
| 21:43.08 | dankolb | Yeah, I'm on the list |
| 21:43.15 | Leeds | when do you want to go? |
| 21:43.27 | Leeds | (eurostar's site is going very slow right now) |
| 21:43.34 | dankolb | (if I can trust Jenson not to do anything stupid while I'm away) |
| 21:43.51 | Leeds | anyway... |
| 21:44.11 | cupis | there's a list? |
| 21:44.37 | Leeds | I fancy the 1027 out, 1756 back, Friday->Sunday for £50 - but if people don't want to group-book, that's fine, I'll just book for myself tomorrow... |
| 21:44.50 | Leeds | cupis: http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/fosdem |
| 21:45.01 | dankolb | That sounds good for me, Leeds |
| 21:45.48 | cupis | Leeds: ah. private list archive :( |
| 21:45.59 | cupis | I've got to work friday anyway. |
| 21:46.12 | cupis | though I s'pose I could get it off |
| 21:46.18 | Leeds | join the list... |
| 21:46.18 | dankolb | I'm going to have to get Friday off |
| 21:46.20 | cupis | fosdem is just sat+sun, right? |
| 21:46.31 | Leeds | sure, but there's good drinking on Friday night |
| 21:47.17 | cupis | someone suggested flying out to me. stansted->brussels |
| 21:47.49 | Leeds | that's doable, if stanstead is sane for you - ryanair for 99p each way+taxes/fees - comes to about £24 |
| 21:48.01 | dankolb | If the Eurostar is £50 return, then that comes down to the same price as flying |
| 21:48.07 | Leeds | the train is nice and civilised though :-) |
| 21:48.20 | dankolb | So's flying |
| 21:48.29 | dankolb | Even on Ryanair :) |
| 21:48.43 | Leeds | train is nicer - a lot less hassle in my opinion |
| 21:48.56 | cupis | Leeds: train is less hassle, that's true |
| 21:49.07 | cupis | Jenson: no he won't |
| 21:49.21 | Jenson | cupis: Don't bet on it. |
| 21:49.25 | cupis | anyone seen riaa.org recently? |
| 21:49.27 | dankolb | That depends what she does |
| 21:49.29 | Leeds | yeah :-) |
| 21:49.38 | Leeds | guys... please |
| 21:50.11 | Jenson | dankolb: Don't you trust me when left for a weekend without you in the country? |
| 21:50.17 | dankolb | No |
| 21:50.41 | Jenson | You don't actually trust me unless I'm sat right next to you do you? |
| 21:50.47 | cupis | now now, children |
| 21:50.52 | dankolb | No |
| 21:50.52 | dankolb | How can I? |
| 21:50.55 | Jenson | :) cupis |
| 21:50.59 | Jenson | Well you can't... |
| 21:51.02 | Leeds | guys... please |
| 21:51.05 | Jenson | but I'm gonna change that |
| 21:51.06 | dankolb | thanks for admitting it |
| 21:51.09 | dankolb | Sorry, Leeds |
| 21:52.24 | dankolb | Leeds: Would you book the hotel too? |
| 21:53.35 | cupis | ah, someone suggested flying there |
| 21:53.54 | Leeds | dankolb: if necessary... we're currently waiting to hear if there's an 'official' hotel, since it was nice last year staying with all the celebs :-) plus it was cheap, but that may not happen this year |
| 21:53.54 | dankolb | Yeah, it'll take about the same as the train, though |
| 21:53.57 | Leeds | cupis: that would be me... |
| 21:53.58 | dankolb | :) |
| 21:54.09 | cupis | Leeds: :) |
| 21:54.34 | Jenson | As a random piece of OT http://www.bancomicsans.com/ lol |
| 21:54.59 | Leeds | the plane may be slightly cheaper, but I think the hassle of getting to stanstead (and probably into Brussels at the other end) outweighs it even if you are really local |
| 21:55.20 | Leeds | I think that getting on a train is simply so much nicer than the plane :-) |
| 21:55.25 | dankolb | yeah |
| 21:55.44 | Leeds | need food |
| 21:56.05 | Jenson | dankolb: Do you still wanna see me at gllug on saturday or are you avoiding me? |
| 21:56.13 | dankolb | Why would I avoid you? |
| 21:56.47 | Jenson | Oh good point, you'd rather be where you can keep an eye on me. |
| 21:56.55 | dankolb | yeah |
| 21:57.38 | Jenson | ty cupis |
| 21:57.44 | dankolb | Sorry. I'm just not overly happy at the moment |
| 21:57.57 | cupis | I got two more here, with ice in. |
| 21:58.05 | Jenson | mmm ice.... |
| 21:58.06 | dankolb | And yourself? |
| 21:58.08 | cupis | dankolb: I can understand that. |
| 21:58.15 | dankolb | No ice, Jenson |
| 21:58.18 | Jenson | And myself yeah |
| 21:58.24 | dankolb | Sorry, Leeds |
| 21:58.27 | Jenson | Leeds: It's bitchwand! |
| 22:00.34 | Leeds | listen - I'm holding it - and it's not a wand, it's a slapping device! |
| 22:00.53 | dankolb | Isn't 1027 a bit early? |
| 22:00.58 | dankolb | To go out, that is? |
| 22:01.12 | cupis | dankolb: I think so |
| 22:01.23 | Leeds | well, their site is still a little dead, but... |
| 22:01.33 | cupis | I think noon-ish train might be better |
| 22:01.49 | Leeds | I reckoned that wasn't too early to get to Waterloo, and since people would be taking the whole day of work either way... |
| 22:01.58 | dankolb | Yeah |
| 22:02.17 | Leeds | it might mean arriving in Brussels with enough time to get to the hotel, check in and relax a bit - the weekend is a little intense |
| 22:02.46 | dankolb | Yes you do |
| 22:02.49 | cupis | Jenson: why wouldn't you? |
| 22:02.57 | dankolb | Too many geekguys... |
| 22:03.00 | Jenson | cupis: I hate planes |
| 22:03.19 | Jenson | dankolb: I'm not interested in other guys, something put me off them today. |
| 22:07.02 | cupis | Leeds: what is the return journey looking like, time-wise? |
| 22:07.17 | Leeds | length or start? |
| 22:07.34 | Leeds | I reckon 1756 back is perfect... |
| 22:07.43 | Leeds | we ended up rushing last year... |
| 22:08.50 | Jenson | AHHH my mouse is crap! |
| 22:09.10 | cupis | Jenson: you have a mouse _and_ a rabbit? :) |
| 22:09.16 | Jenson | lol |
| 22:09.25 | Jenson | Actually we have a rabbit and a horse if you must know.... |
| 22:09.48 | Leeds | and a mouse? |
| 22:10.03 | cupis | do they get on? |
| 22:10.30 | cupis | Leeds: 1756? monday train back? |
| 22:10.44 | Leeds | Sunday train back... conference finishes at lunchtime |
| 22:10.56 | cupis | dankolb: so do I. |
| 22:11.12 | Jenson | cupis: We used to have a cat that woould sit by the rabbit enclosure....rabbit one side of wire/cat the other |
| 22:11.16 | cupis | I see 1701 or 1957 on eurostar.co.uk, or monday1756 on the list. |
| 22:11.28 | cupis | Jenson: staring each other out? |
| 22:11.43 | Leeds | it's cheaper (train and less hotel) and means less time off work - not that I am planning on actually taking holiday time for this |
| 22:11.56 | Jenson | cupis: lol probably |
| 22:12.23 | Leeds | since eurostar.co[m|.uk] refuses to talk to me right now, I can't comment :-( |
| 22:12.28 | cupis | London Waterloo Int - Brussels Midi |
| 22:12.29 | cupis | Outward journey: 21/02/2003 10:27 |
| 22:12.29 | cupis | Return journey: 23/02/2003 17:01 |
| 22:12.29 | cupis | 1 passenger(s) 87.00 GBP |
| 22:12.40 | Leeds | you're a week early :-) |
| 22:12.50 | dankolb | Two weeks |
| 22:12.56 | Leeds | yeah, that |
| 22:13.08 | cupis | two weeks late? |
| 22:13.13 | dankolb | two weeks early |
| 22:13.13 | cupis | 8th-9th |
| 22:13.14 | Leeds | it's 7/8/9 feb |
| 22:15.26 | cupis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.27 | cupis | Outward journey: 07/02/2003 10:27 |
| 22:15.27 | cupis | Return journey: 09/02/2003 17:56 |
| 22:15.27 | cupis | 1 passenger(s) 79.00 GBP |
| 22:15.42 | cupis | that looks good to me |
| 22:16.02 | Leeds | the same thing is available for £50 - or it was a few hours ago |
| 22:17.01 | cupis | 50? or 59? |
| 22:17.04 | Leeds | since I still can't see the site |
| 22:17.05 | Leeds | 50 |
| 22:17.18 | Leeds | or 59, but 50 sounds better for some reason :-) |
| 22:17.32 | cupis | I can get it to come up as 59GBP. Promotion clas. |
| 22:17.45 | cupis | promotion standard class |
| 22:18.03 | dankolb | What's the promotion class? |
| 22:18.05 | Leeds | there's another promotion available only this weekend for travel before 10/2 for £50 |
| 22:18.34 | cupis | dankolb: <shrug> That's what it says on the site. |
| 22:18.41 | dankolb | ahh :) |
| 22:19.02 | cupis | ah, there is some explanation here |
| 22:19.07 | dankolb | go on... |
| 22:19.22 | cupis | winter 2002 promo: minimum stay one sat night or two nights. |
| 22:19.40 | Leeds | I see it for 50 now - restarted my moz |
| 22:19.47 | cupis | bookings between 01/01 and 10/03 for travel between 15/01 and 24/03 inclusive |
| 22:20.01 | cupis | non-exchangable, non-refundable, blah blah |
| 22:20.02 | Leeds | January Internet Sale |
| 22:20.02 | Leeds | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.02 | Leeds | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.02 | Leeds | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.02 | Leeds | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.49 | cupis | Leeds: went back to the homepage and saw that. I went straight for the regular booking thing first |
| 22:21.01 | Leeds | their site sucks... |
| 22:21.14 | cupis | Leeds: agreed |
| 22:21.22 | Leeds | last week I was getting different results for the same query at eurostar.com and eurostar.co.uk |
| 22:21.35 | cupis | midnight Sunday 12 January 2003 (the night of Monday/ Tuesday) |
| 22:21.39 | cupis | </quote> |
| 22:22.03 | Leeds | what? |
| 22:22.16 | cupis | "The return journey must be completed by 9 February 2003." |
| 22:22.26 | cupis | "All bookings must be made between midnight Thursday 9th January 2003 (the night of Thursday/Friday) and midnight Sunday 12 January 2003 (the night of Monday/ Tuesday) inclusive. Bookings will only be accepted online through www.eurostar.com" |
| 22:22.26 | Leeds | that's the Sunday |
| 22:22.48 | Leeds | ah - I'm on the booking page, not the promotion page |
| 22:22.48 | cupis | Leeds: "completed by" == "can be completed on the" ??? |
| 22:23.05 | cupis | ah, it's inclusive, never mind |
| 22:23.39 | Leeds | but midnight on the 12th isn't the night of Monday Tuesday |
| 22:23.53 | cupis | Leeds: that's what i thought - wtf? |
| 22:24.07 | cupis | "First class and standard class travel may not be combined. Passengers must travel together in the same class on both the outbound and inbound journey." |
| 22:25.06 | cupis | Is the plan to go out and then find/book a hotel? or to book before we leave? |
| 22:25.14 | Leeds | book before we leave, certainly |
| 22:25.45 | Leeds | it's been a few years since I went somewhere abroad without somewhere to stay :-) |
| 22:27.23 | Leeds | and that was Jerusalem, which is a special case since I'd lived there for a few months and knew it pretty well |
| 22:27.29 | cupis | hotel ibis is 84GBP |
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| 22:27.38 | dankolb | cupis: For 2 nights? |
| 22:27.51 | cupis | "for Feb 07 - Feb 09, 2 Night(s) 2 Guest(s) per Room" |
| 22:28.08 | dankolb | Sounds reasonable |
| 22:28.20 | cupis | that price is for a room for 1-2 persons, or a standard room for up to 3 guests |
| 22:28.21 | Leeds | 69 euro per night for two nights |
| 22:28.28 | Leeds | ibot change 138 euro to gbp |
| 22:30.05 | cupis | ibot: convert 134 usd for gbp |
| 22:30.18 | dankolb | ibot change 134 usd to gbp |
| 22:30.35 | cupis | tnx |
| 22:31.04 | cupis | 134 usd is price quoted on nbportal.com / travelnow.com |
| 22:31.15 | Leeds | note that they charge in euros, so if you're seeing a price in usd it's already been converted once |
| 22:31.30 | cupis | but < 100GBP either way... |
| 22:31.34 | Leeds | sure |
| 22:31.40 | Leeds | plus £50 for the train |
| 22:31.56 | Leeds | plus food, drink and travel in Brussels |
| 22:32.18 | Leeds | plus - suggested - a 20 euro or so donation |
| 22:32.38 | cupis | okay - the above works for me - should i mail the list? Leeds, are you booking it? |
| 22:32.44 | dankolb | FOSDEM is free, though? |
| 22:33.00 | dankolb | (apart from suggested donation) |
| 22:33.00 | Leeds | it's free, but they ask for a donation |
| 22:33.03 | cupis | hmm, should probably tell my boss I'm having that friday off :) |
| 22:33.06 | dankolb | Sounds reasonable |
| 22:33.38 | Leeds | cupis: probably best if you mail the list, since you seem to be the only one so far who wants to travel with me :-) |
| 22:33.49 | cupis | Leeds: heh |
| 22:34.25 | Leeds | mmm... food |
| 22:34.33 | Leeds | I wouldn't worry too much about the hotel for the moment |
| 22:34.34 | dankolb | I already said I wanted to travel with you |
| 22:34.45 | Leeds | dankolb: sorry - I wasn't sure that you wanted the same times |
| 22:35.05 | dankolb | 1027 and 1756? |
| 22:35.31 | dankolb | I'd prefer a slightly later train in the morning, but if you're going at that time, I'd come as well |
| 22:35.45 | Jenson | There is 12:27 aswell |
| 22:36.10 | dankolb | Yeah, but I don't want to be the only person going at 1027 |
| 22:36.57 | dankolb | *1227 even |
| 22:36.58 | Leeds | I'd prefer to be there before 16.10 - remember, there's an hours time difference too |
| 22:37.03 | dankolb | True |
| 22:37.18 | Leeds | 1610 means you don't get to the hotel much before 1730 or so |
| 22:37.18 | cupis | 1027 works for me - we get most of the afternoon |
| 22:37.37 | dankolb | Ahh |
| 22:37.43 | dankolb | Yeah, 1027 sounds good then |
| 22:37.51 | dankolb | Although requires me to get out of bed too early in the morning :) |
| 22:38.01 | Jenson | dankolb: Don't be so lazy... |
| 22:38.16 | Leeds | we get some of the afternoon - assume up to an hour to get to the hotel - I'm guessing people want to drop off bags and checkin first, otherwise there's more time in the afternoon |
| 22:38.17 | dankolb | Says you, who isn't even sure she wants to come? :) |
| 22:38.20 | dankolb | yeah |
| 22:38.30 | cupis | Waterloo, right - just so we are all talking abuot the same trip. |
| 22:38.42 | Leeds | to be fair, she does live somewhere in the frozen north |
| 22:38.49 | dankolb | yeah :) |
| 22:39.07 | cupis | Jenson: it's near waterloo underground station :) |
| 22:39.16 | dankolb | woot! |
| 22:39.23 | dankolb | Bakerloo line straight from Marylebone |
| 22:39.24 | Leeds | somewhere in europe - it's where Napoleon was defeated |
| 22:40.01 | cupis | northern line straight there - easy-peasy. :) |
| 22:40.02 | Leeds | there's a song about it |
| 22:40.06 | Leeds | northern line good... |
| 22:40.07 | cupis | ABBA |
| 22:40.10 | Jenson | dankolb: I expect I could work it out...other than the fact I get to London at Liverpool Street |
| 22:40.43 | dankolb | That's okay - it's a couple of changes you need |
| 22:41.07 | cupis | Jenson: get the circle to embankment or the central to tcr and then the northern to waterloo |
| 22:41.25 | Jenson | cupis: I'll look at a map later |
| 22:42.30 | cupis | Leeds: mail sent |
| 22:42.35 | Jenson | Fuck...my mate can't come to gllug...which means I'm gonna miss half of it. |
| 22:42.49 | Leeds | cupis: received :-) |
| 22:42.49 | dankolb | Why will you miss half of Gllug? |
| 22:42.52 | dankolb | Have to come late? |
| 22:42.57 | cupis | Jenson: huh? that does not logically follow |
| 22:43.42 | Jenson | Nah, my granny was coming instead to see my auntie....but she wants to get the 16:45 train back |
| 22:43.44 | Jenson | BRB |
| 22:43.54 | dankolb | That's early return |
| 22:43.59 | Leeds | hmm.. feel the need for something sweet following microwaved indian dinner |
| 22:44.11 | dankolb | Poppadom with mango chutney |
| 22:44.20 | Leeds | don't have any... |
| 22:44.29 | Leeds | got some choccy biccies though |
| 22:44.38 | Leeds | dankolb: want to supply a car to go with that? |
| 22:44.50 | dankolb | No, and neither will Oxford :) |
| 22:44.59 | dankolb | Weren't you supposed to get it back today? |
| 22:45.06 | cupis | I have a 24hr Tesco <5min alk from my house :) |
| 22:45.17 | Leeds | cupis: where are you? |
| 22:45.26 | Jenson | back |
| 22:45.30 | dankolb | wb |
| 22:45.35 | cupis | Leeds: Sutton |
| 22:45.44 | Jenson | Just told my parents...they say I'm not allowed to go to London on my own |
| 22:45.50 | dankolb | Aww |
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| 22:45.53 | Jenson | Life has got it in for me today |
| 22:45.57 | dankolb | Yeah, it does |
| 22:46.05 | zachary | good evening |
| 22:46.07 | Leeds | I went to the garage, they said they didn't think it was damaged, asked them for a quote... still waiting |
| 22:46.11 | Leeds | hey zachary |
| 22:46.16 | cupis | evening zachary |
| 22:46.36 | Leeds | Jenson: boo to parents... but they might be right, depending on how much time you've spent in London |
| 22:47.07 | Jenson | Leeds: Last time we did London I had a crying match with them in Liverpool Street....I'd rather not go with them again. |
| 22:47.25 | dankolb | Well, you shouldn't have a crying match, then |
| 22:47.29 | Jenson | dankolb: Cheers for telling bee to ask me why you're upset. |
| 22:47.32 | cupis | Jenson: who won the crying match? |
| 22:47.42 | dankolb | You're welcome |
| 22:47.44 | Leeds | oh sure... what I meant was that London is big and easy to get lost in if you don't know it |
| 22:47.52 | Jenson | cupis: No-one...I waited for Dan to arrive and whinged at him lol |
| 22:48.04 | dankolb | Did you whinge at me? |
| 22:48.10 | Jenson | Leeds: I get lost in Colechester...and that's tiny.... |
| 22:49.16 | Leeds | up to a certain point I'd spent very little time in London, and wouldn't have been wanting to wander around by myself |
| 22:49.18 | zachary | As long as I have a map, I do pretty well anywhere. |
| 22:49.35 | Jenson | zachary: Aslong as you know which way up the map goes.... |
| 22:50.23 | Leeds | and where you are - can be hard if you can't read the roadsigns, like in Bangkok for example |
| 22:50.23 | zachary | not that diffacult Orientation! |
| 23:11.01 | Jenson | BBS |
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| 23:32.43 | cupis | re |
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| 23:45.56 | dankolb | hi zimm |
| 23:45.58 | Jenson | heya zimm mate |
| 23:46.08 | zimm | hi dankolb, Jenson |
| 23:46.17 | zimm | hi everyone else too :-) |
| 23:46.20 | zimm | lol |
| 23:46.29 | zimm | i hate fluxbox , its a bitch |
| 23:46.50 | dankolb | heh |
| 23:47.57 | cupis | zimm: _trying_ to install it? |
| 23:49.01 | zimm | cupis: ok , installing is easy , making it nice to use is trickier |
| 23:49.42 | cupis | zimm: what wm (if any) are you used to? |
| 23:49.55 | zimm | heheh , normally , kde3.1 |
| 23:50.28 | cupis | zimm: really? huh, didn't think that had been released, yet :) |
| 23:50.43 | zimm | as you shouild know , from watching me talk shit on #debian-kde |
| 23:50.44 | formi | zimm, what is the problem with fluxbox? |
| 23:51.09 | zimm | cupis: im using orths CVS debs .. tehy rock .. |
| 23:51.19 | zimm | formi: mothing really, i quite like it |
| 23:51.25 | zimm | its just a pain to set up .. |
| 23:51.31 | cupis | zimm: I thought someone else had been talking about flux today - haven't been paying attention on -kde - didn't connect the two :) |
| 23:51.43 | zimm | hehe |
| 23:55.14 | formi | I have never set it up, appart from dropping my custom style on the right directory |
| 23:55.14 | formi | I do have to set it up now, freebsd doesn't add new programs to the menu automacillay like mdf |
| 23:55.14 | formi | s/mdf/mdk |
| 23:55.14 | zimm | yeh , that was on of the problems i was getting ,, completely empty menu's |
| 23:55.14 | zimm | sorted that now .. |
| 23:55.14 | formi | well the menus are easy to set up |
| 23:55.14 | zimm | also it was starting at the wrong -dpi setting , 75 instead of 100 |
| 23:55.14 | zimm | (which is an X thing really) |
| 23:56.21 | formi | I don't use 100 |
| 23:57.40 | eye69 | Gonna try Subversion next week |
| 23:58.12 | zimm | only real issue now is , that after starting it it kinda hangs , but if i alt-ctrl-F1 then back to the term flux is on , its fine .. again this may well be X |
