| 00:00.02 | davilion | once i get my site back up i'll do a #gllug mugshots |
| 00:00.05 | davilion | and run ircstats too |
| 00:01.12 | dankolb | There are some mugshots |
| 00:01.16 | dankolb | somewhere |
| 00:01.43 | murble | we don't need mugshots pag |
| 00:01.53 | Jenson | There is a mugshots page for CLUG I know |
| 00:02.46 | davilion | http://glasgownet.com/~bagpuss/ircstats/scotlug.html |
| 00:02.59 | davilion | something like that would be cool |
| 00:04.34 | eye69 | Evening |
| 00:04.39 | Jenson | hey eye69 |
| 00:04.39 | dankolb | Hi eye69 |
| 00:04.47 | eye69 | Cuntfuck...missed the last train |
| 00:04.55 | dankolb | Leave the pub earlier next time |
| 00:05.03 | zachary | eye69: oops |
| 00:05.04 | eye69 | Oh well...have to find the most comfy chair at the office... |
| 00:06.55 | eye69 | I guess I could find a bus...I don't have the slightest clue where to begin looking for one though |
| 00:08.12 | cupis | eye69: Trafalgar Square is the (Night) Bus hub of central London |
| 00:08.52 | eye69 | Oh, right. Luck has it that I'm currently just opposite the stock exchange, near Liverpool Street. |
| 00:10.31 | eye69 | Where would I find info on bus routers? |
| 00:10.45 | eye69 | I'm a bit network-damaged. I mean routes. |
| 00:11.35 | cupis | eye69: londontransport.co.uk ? |
| 00:11.38 | zachary | I know it exists. Nice maps in pdf |
| 00:11.49 | eye69 | cupis: Oh, thanks. |
| 00:11.50 | cupis | eye69: londonbuses.co.uk ? |
| 00:13.26 | davilion | eye69: i found its pretty easy, you go to trafalger square, and find a stop which is marked for your area |
| 00:13.30 | davilion | then you get on the next bus that comes |
| 00:13.34 | davilion | usually 1 ervery 30 minutes |
| 00:13.47 | eye69 | Could anybody help me find a route to Grays, Essex? |
| 00:14.01 | eye69 | davilion: Ok. |
| 00:14.14 | Jenson | I dunno where that is eye69 it's in my county lol |
| 00:14.36 | eye69 | Jenson: Very near Lakeside. |
| 00:14.46 | murble | did anyone see the venniswalian demonstrators? |
| 00:14.59 | Jenson | No murble |
| 00:15.25 | Jenson | There must be a train from liverpools street near to there? |
| 00:15.27 | cupis | eye69: what bus numbers go near where you want to go? Look up the route for Nxxx (where xxx is the bus number) |
| 00:15.46 | eye69 | cupis: I don't have a bloody clue. |
| 00:15.57 | eye69 | I have never used a bus in the UK. |
| 00:16.08 | cupis | eye69: okay |
| 00:16.22 | zachary | Gotta go. Wife needs family time. |
| 00:16.22 | cupis | eye69: Grays... is that near West Thurrock? |
| 00:16.28 | Jenson | See ya zachary |
| 00:16.34 | cupis | bye zachary |
| 00:16.49 | dankolb | bye zachary |
| 00:16.49 | eye69 | cupis: Yeah. |
| 00:16.49 | zachary | see everyone tomarrow or so! :-) |
| 00:16.53 | dankolb | :) |
| 00:17.03 | eye69 | cupis: It should be just southeast of West Thurrock |
| 00:17.30 | eye69 | It's about 4 minutes by train from Lakeside. |
| 00:18.18 | eye69 | It's the next train station after Purfleet. |
| 00:19.00 | cupis | eye69: do you have a telephone handy? |
| 00:19.21 | eye69 | Sure. |
| 00:19.46 | cupis | eye69: phone 020 7222 1234 and ask them what night bus goes to/near Grays. |
| 00:20.48 | eye69 | Cheers. Phoning now. |
| 00:21.28 | cupis | eye69: They are generally very helpful unless the are busy+understaffed or you rub them up the wrong way. |
| 00:22.00 | cupis | Only buses I can see that go to Grays are the 370 and the 373 - neither of which is a night bus |
| 00:22.05 | eye69 | I shall be gentle. :) |
| 00:22.32 | eye69 | Any of them go to Lakeside/Chafford Hundred? |
| 00:22.51 | cupis | eye69: the N15 goes to Romford... |
| 00:23.23 | cupis | ...if that's any help whatsoever |
| 00:24.02 | cupis | and even less helpfully, there are at least 4 night buses that would take me home... :) |
| 00:24.57 | eye69 | Might I ask where you get this information? I can't see a link resembling "timetables" on londontransport.co.uk |
| 00:25.41 | eye69 | I just get 404's on londonbuses.co.uk |
| 00:25.56 | cupis | eye69: from by (paper) bus maps... :) |
| 00:26.02 | eye69 | Oh. :) |
| 00:26.11 | cupis | try http://www.londonbusroutes.net/routes.htm - routes, not timetables |
| 00:26.49 | eye69 | Just got through. As you said, the nearest would be to Romford. |
| 00:27.08 | cupis | eye69: I hate to say I told you so... |
| 00:27.19 | eye69 | That would be something like £35-40 to me. |
| 00:27.22 | eye69 | (cab) |
| 00:27.42 | eye69 | Oh well...just have to found the most comfy chair at the office then. |
| 00:27.47 | cupis | Pounds or minutes? |
| 00:27.57 | eye69 | Pounds |
| 00:28.25 | cupis | hmm "pounds or minutes" - probably works out about the same anyway |
| 00:28.35 | eye69 | Yeah... |
| 00:29.09 | cupis | just thought I'd share that nugget with the group :) |
| 00:29.31 | Jenson | There are trains from liverpool street to Romford in about 4 mins and avout 15 mins |
| 00:29.52 | eye69 | Jenson: I can't be bothered. I'm not going to run. |
| 00:30.20 | Jenson | eye69: Lat one to Romford is at 00:47 it seems |
| 00:30.26 | cupis | eye69: did you ask the LT people about any trains still running that might go to Grays? |
| 00:30.27 | Jenson | s/lat/last |
| 00:30.53 | eye69 | cupis: The last one was 23.50 from Fenchurch St. That I know. |
| 00:31.00 | cupis | eye69: ah, oaky |
| 00:31.59 | eye69 | Wtf...either they've updated their timetables or they're lying. I actually think they're lying. |
| 00:32.27 | eye69 | Weekdays the last one is 23.52 from Liverpool Street. Saturdays it's 23.50 from Fenchurch St. |
| 00:32.59 | eye69 | No, nevermind. I'm reading the timetable wrong. |
| 00:34.12 | Jenson | Well the last one from Liverpool Street is definately at 00:47...but thats all the help i can be |
| 00:34.34 | eye69 | It's 00.47 according to the timetable. |
| 00:35.56 | eye69 | Oh...I'm looking at c2c-online.co.uk, because it's the line which goes to Grays, and of not it goes to the nearest places. |
| 00:36.11 | eye69 | s/of/if/ |
| 00:36.22 | Jenson | Yeah well that site is has the line back to where I am...that's why. |
| 00:36.40 | cupis | eye69: Jenson is looking at trains to Romford? |
| 00:36.47 | eye69 | cupis: Probably. |
| 00:36.54 | Jenson | Yeah |
| 00:36.57 | Jenson | thats what I said |
| 00:37.01 | cupis | eye69: move to Romford? :) |
| 00:37.05 | Jenson | lol |
| 00:37.16 | eye69 | cupis: More likely move a lot closer to London. |
| 00:37.22 | Jenson | Well I'm near Colchester lol but n/m |
| 00:37.24 | eye69 | Have thought of Upminster. |
| 00:37.50 | eye69 | It's not fun spending two hours/day travelling. |
| 00:39.17 | Jenson | I'm glad I didnt go to the pub....the last train back to mine is 2 hrs earlier than I thought |
| 00:39.19 | Jenson | Blooy timetables |
| 00:40.10 | dankolb | :) |
| 00:40.22 | dankolb | When's the last train then? 22:47? |
| 00:40.37 | Jenson | 21:47 |
| 00:40.50 | dankolb | So if you left at 8.30, that'd be okay |
| 00:41.12 | Jenson | Yeah |
| 00:41.56 | Jenson | 20:47 even |
| 00:42.08 | dankolb | Err, that early? |
| 00:42.09 | Jenson | Why did I tink the last one was about 22:00? |
| 00:42.21 | eye69 | I had two minutes left when the tube pulled into the station two stations from Tower Hill, and then it's a 4 minute walk to the station. |
| 00:43.13 | cupis | 00.29 lol |
| 00:43.28 | Jenson | lol cupis that's not fair |
| 00:43.56 | cupis | well the train doesn't take me all the way home |
| 00:44.08 | Jenson | I was just looking for my paper timetable...which I've had a month and I'm sure is different....but all I found is a broadband leaflet |
| 00:44.12 | Jenson | Oh mine does cupis |
| 00:44.30 | cupis | Jenson: no, what's not fair is the Night Buses go quite near my home and run all through the night. :) |
| 00:44.31 | eye69 | dankolb: 23.00 would've been fine. I left at 23.20 though. |
| 00:44.37 | dankolb | ah |
| 00:44.39 | stephen | eye69: it's alright for some, I only just got back |
| 00:44.44 | dankolb | your fault then |
| 00:44.58 | eye69 | stephen: Hi. You came? |
| 00:45.03 | stephen | yep |
| 00:45.06 | Jenson | hey stephen |
| 00:45.12 | stephen | hey |
| 00:45.19 | eye69 | stephen: I probably didn't meet you. |
| 00:45.29 | Jenson | You met me.... |
| 00:45.30 | stephen | nah, I don't think we did |
| 00:45.33 | eye69 | stephen: Did you enjoy it? |
| 00:45.39 | eye69 | Jenson: So I did. |
| 00:45.43 | Jenson | :) |
| 00:45.50 | stephen | yeah, but the SE Linux stuff went right over my head |
| 00:46.18 | Jenson | I think Linux went over my head as normal......but I'll learn lol |
| 00:46.23 | eye69 | I missed the first part of the MySQL talk, and didn't go to the SE Linux talk. |
| 00:46.30 | Jenson | I'm getting a new computer I hope |
| 00:46.40 | stephen | mysql talk wasn't bad at all |
| 00:46.46 | eye69 | Jenson: I thought you weren't allowed? |
| 00:47.02 | Jenson | My parents wqent on about how we dont need one....but now they both have XP I think they want that.....which is cool with me coz\ it means I get this one and they can have their XP |
| 00:47.03 | eye69 | stephen: Seemed a bit like a salespitch. |
| 00:47.13 | Jenson | s/have XP/havw XP at work |
| 00:47.20 | stephen | it did, but at least its free ;) |
| 00:47.34 | eye69 | stephen: Heh. |
| 00:47.50 | eye69 | stephen: Shame I didn't get to shake your paw. |
| 00:48.01 | eye69 | Well, better luck next time I guess. |
| 00:48.05 | Jenson | lol |
| 00:48.14 | stephen | yougo to the pub afetrwards? |
| 00:48.19 | eye69 | stephen: Yeah. |
| 00:48.24 | eye69 | I left at 23.20. |
| 00:48.30 | stephen | what were you wearing? |
| 00:48.42 | eye69 | Black jeans, black t-shirt and blue shirt. |
| 00:49.15 | eye69 | Sat mostly near the entrance to our little haven. |
| 00:49.21 | stephen | okay, can't remember, but I'm as tired as hell |
| 00:49.28 | eye69 | Me too. |
| 00:50.41 | Jenson | And I've been watching TV all evening lol |
| 00:51.03 | eye69 | I've got a TV at the office, but I don't think I have an aerial. |
| 00:51.24 | eye69 | It's just hooked up to a computer showing the stock streamer. |
| 00:51.55 | cupis | eye69: use your finger. or a sausage. or any random bit or wire/cable for an aerial |
| 00:52.12 | stephen | i've been looking at a tv tuner that hooks up to my monitor, but they're really pricey |
| 00:52.33 | eye69 | stephen: I just use a BT848 card at home. |
| 00:52.41 | eye69 | It works, and the picture is not bad at all. |
| 00:53.08 | cupis | stephen: WinTV GO for about 40-50 GBP - don't know about support/compatability, though |
| 00:53.14 | resudaed | evening Jenson |
| 00:53.19 | Jenson | hey resudaed |
| 00:53.24 | resudaed | evening eye69 |
| 00:53.31 | resudaed | evening cupis |
| 00:53.37 | eye69 | stephen: Just get a BT848 or 878 based card and you're fine. |
| 00:53.41 | dankolb | hi resudaed |
| 00:53.44 | cupis | evening deaduser |
| 00:53.45 | eye69 | Hello resudaed. |
| 00:53.49 | stephen | cupis: names beginning with 'win' don't inspire much confidence ;) |
| 00:53.55 | stephen | eye69: might do then |
| 00:54.03 | resudaed | evening dankolb |
| 00:54.45 | stephen | right i'm off - see y'all around |
| 00:54.53 | eye69 | stephen: They're not pricy, some of them come with a remote, all 848/878 cards have a regular video-in as well as RF. |
| 00:54.57 | cupis | night stephen |
| 00:55.05 | dankolb | night stephen |
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| 00:58.36 | Jenson | night stephen |
| 00:58.39 | Jenson | wb SpudUAway |
| 00:59.38 | highbury | re |
| 00:59.44 | Jenson | hey highbury |
| 00:59.54 | dankolb | 'lo |
| 01:00.13 | highbury | hi folk |
| 01:01.17 | highbury | I hope you all enjoyed yourselves at the meeting and Pub |
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| 01:03.06 | dankolb | Pub's always good :) |
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| 01:04.13 | SpudUAway | Hi de hi |
| 01:04.19 | dankolb | night murble |
| 01:04.23 | highbury | ho de ho |
| 01:08.16 | highbury | lets just leave it as "thy're just good friends" |
| 01:08.33 | Jenson | lol ok |
| 01:10.36 | highbury | you very low key at the meeting |
| 01:11.00 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:11.10 | Jenson | :) I'm quiet and reserved..... |
| 01:12.34 | highbury | 'cept on irc :-) |
| 01:12.38 | Jenson | hehehehe |
| 01:13.53 | Jenson | I just don't know any of you well enough to be flirty...... |
| 01:21.04 | highbury | folks |
| 01:21.10 | Jenson | nite mate |
| 01:21.16 | Jenson | Night all |
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| 02:12.36 | SpudAndTarr | Netsplit! |
| 02:23.28 | skugg | whoa! |
| 02:23.30 | skugg | :) |
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| 10:22.55 | highbury | morning |
| 10:24.22 | eye69 | *yawn* |
| 10:25.10 | eye69 | Sleeping on floor with laptopbag as pillow, towel to soften pillow, jacket as cover |
| 10:34.09 | highbury | yep I've done, sleeping on floor under desk, after missing last train home, too |
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| 10:46.28 | zachary | Good morning |
| 10:50.42 | eye69 | Hi zach |
| 11:09.28 | zachary | Did you take the bus last night? |
| 11:22.47 | eye69 | Nope...slept on floor with laptopbag as pillow, towel to soften pillow, jacket as cover |
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| 11:44.09 | zachary | Morning Jenson |
| 11:44.26 | zachary | eye69: Now I feel guilty |
| 11:44.32 | Jenson | Morning zachary How are you? |
| 11:44.50 | Jenson | Coz I am getting o e |
| 11:44.54 | Jenson | one even# |
| 11:45.32 | Jenson | Or rather I'll get my parents a nice XP machine so I can nick this one, coz I don't like XP all that much. |
| 11:45.42 | zachary | teletuby os |
| 11:46.01 | Jenson | BRB |
| 11:46.28 | eye69 | zachary: Don't be. :) |
| 11:46.44 | eye69 | Oh well, I'm going to scoot off home. |
| 11:58.58 | Jenson | Back |
| 11:59.02 | Jenson | See ya later eye69 |
| 12:01.42 | Jenson | Am I all by myself? |
| 12:06.06 | highbury | re |
| 12:06.30 | Jenson | hey highbury |
| 12:06.41 | Jenson | Can I ask a dumb PCWorld related question? |
| 12:07.01 | highbury | so what spec pc's do you (or your parents) have ? |
| 12:07.07 | highbury | shoot! |
| 12:07.27 | Jenson | We've got a 200MHz amd a 700MHz....and a laptop that I havent looked lol |
| 12:07.45 | Jenson | OK....why do the PCWorld PCs not seem to have 3D graphics cards |
| 12:07.57 | Jenson | I thought everything was sold with 3D cards now |
| 12:08.14 | murble | moin |
| 12:08.32 | Jenson | hey murble |
| 12:09.25 | highbury | hmm, your better off looking at reviews in computer mags, tahn visiting pcworld |
| 12:09.38 | Jenson | I wouldnt buy from PCWorld |
| 12:09.46 | highbury | good |
| 12:10.23 | Jenson | Although I'm not really bothered....I just wanted a new one for my parents...I'll have this one, I don't bloody want XP |
| 12:10.35 | highbury | so what do you want? A PC or a MAc? If PC, then do you want Linux and or Windows? |
| 12:10.59 | highbury | are you planning to go to college? |
| 12:11.40 | murble | PCWoe |
| 12:12.00 | Jenson | I want a PC...I want to dual boot Slack and Win98SE...No not college, but seen as I'm not going to college or uni this year (I will eventually) my parents think I'll learn more from a nice computer. |
| 12:12.36 | highbury | what is your budget? what are your requirements in terms of peripherals? You also need to do something so you can all share 1 internet connection |
| 12:12.39 | murble | Jenson: slack? oh you really have been corrpud by dank :) |
| 12:12.46 | murble | ted |
| 12:13.16 | Jenson | My mother said the most ungeek thing I have ever heard a minute ago lol. She said 'What's XP', which I wouldn't have minded if it wasn't for the fact she's usuing right now this second. |
| 12:13.30 | Jenson | Yeah murble, dank and Leeds |
| 12:13.38 | murble | shoot your parents. |
| 12:14.06 | murble | but you've got to get them to give you all their assets 7 years before you do that. |
| 12:14.13 | Jenson | My parents now both have XP provided by work...and they like it....It makes everything too damn obvious and easy...and consequently confuses me. |
| 12:15.33 | murble | XP Pro or otherwise? |
| 12:15.48 | Jenson | murble: I don't get close enough to look |
| 12:16.03 | Jenson | My mother is having great fun trying to master the art of typing on a laptop now |
| 12:16.12 | Jenson | Not that I type properly |
| 12:16.34 | Jenson | I said she could use the computer, but she wants to use her laptop |
| 12:17.19 | Jenson | I'm sure you type better than me, I tried not to let anyone see me type yesterday |
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| 12:18.10 | murble | yeah, all you typed was www.hotail.com |
| 12:18.16 | Jenson | hey dankolb |
| 12:18.30 | murble | see, i can't type either. |
| 12:18.32 | dankolb | Hi |
| 12:18.47 | Jenson | I used to be able to type, when I typed slowly |
| 12:20.53 | murble | now you have irc to scew up your typing permanantly? |
| 12:21.21 | dankolb | Ah, but we tend to type properly, which is a good influence :) |
| 12:21.32 | Jenson | Yeah, chat tuahgt me to type fast, and make a mess of it lol |
| 12:21.39 | dankolb | s/tuahgt/taught/ |
| 12:21.44 | murble | getting up at 8am is wrong. |
| 12:22.04 | highbury | Jenson: do you still want advice on pc purchase? |
| 12:22.13 | Jenson | murble: Had to get a train at 09:12 murble |
| 12:22.23 | Jenson | Yeah highbury if you got something useful to say then say it |
| 12:22.24 | Jenson | :) |
| 12:22.37 | dankolb | murble: True |
| 12:23.01 | highbury | Jenson: so, please answer my questions, so I can better help. |
| 12:23.07 | Jenson | dankolb: Coming from him who missed his train |
| 12:23.14 | Jenson | Sorry highbury, I got distracted |
| 12:23.20 | dankolb | It came EARLY |
| 12:23.24 | dankolb | *left early |
| 12:23.28 | dankolb | EARLY, I say |
| 12:23.29 | highbury | focus jenson, focus! |
| 12:23.32 | highbury | ;-) |
| 12:23.34 | dankolb | A pox on Chiltern Railways |
| 12:24.04 | dankolb | Oh yeah :) |
| 12:24.45 | Jenson | highbury: lol. I might want a printer, other than that just the normal stuff, I don't want cordless (after all my parents don't need cordless). And I won't need to share internet, I'm the only one who uses it more than once a month anyway, and I'll probably get ADSL when I get a job. |
| 12:25.39 | murble | Jenson: what is the min. contract length for adsl? |
| 12:25.48 | Jenson | 12 months ATM |
| 12:25.54 | dankolb | Nope |
| 12:25.58 | dankolb | Depends on the company |
| 12:26.10 | dankolb | A couple have 3 month contracts, one has a 1-month contractg |
| 12:26.24 | Jenson | What is the Demon contract dankolb |
| 12:26.46 | dankolb | 12 months |
| 12:27.34 | highbury | why don't you want to share the internet? do you want to move the phone connection evrytime on of the 3 of you want to use the internet? |
| 12:28.06 | dankolb | It's *my* Internet :) |
| 12:28.22 | highbury | I had dibs first! |
| 12:28.26 | Jenson | highbury: That would mean I'd have to learn to network..and the only network admin I know round here is my exboy/fs DAd |
| 12:28.46 | dankolb | Erm. There's nothing overly magical about networking |
| 12:28.57 | dankolb | You kids have it so easy, you don't even need to terminate properly any more |
| 12:29.10 | highbury | Jenson: its trivial, especially if you have a spare slow manky computer |
| 12:29.43 | murble | dank: you've not read http://www.lorry.com/Docs/pixie.html ? |
| 12:29.46 | Jenson | Which I don't highbury, I destroyed them, and I dunno how to fix them |
| 12:29.54 | dankolb | murble: I think I have, yes |
| 12:30.08 | highbury | anyway, back to the main topic, have you decided on a budget? |
| 12:30.12 | Jenson | And if I get a new one, I'll give my 200MHz to my granny....mind you I'd then get her 75MHz I assume |
| 12:30.42 | Jenson | No I havent highbury, but seen as it's my uni money, and I'm not going to uni (ATM at least) I can do what I want |
| 12:30.52 | highbury | why give it to your granny? keep it and turn it into a firwall, which will provide internet sharing for your whole houshold |
| 12:31.18 | murble | yeah, and you could put a charging system in place for people other than you to recover the costs. |
| 12:32.03 | murble | doesn't Essex have quite a high sucide rate? |
| 12:32.10 | murble | u |
| 12:32.20 | Jenson | Yeah murble, nice black towers to jump off. |
| 12:32.34 | Jenson | The tower blocks are really really manky actually |
| 12:32.55 | dankolb | No wonder people don't want to be there, then. |
| 12:33.06 | murble | and it is windswept and horrible. |
| 12:33.14 | murble | (the campus) |
| 12:33.14 | Jenson | Although internet access in rooms is £10 a year |
| 12:33.21 | dankolb | That's not too bad |
| 12:33.33 | dankolb | Although we had free access in Oxford |
| 12:33.37 | Jenson | murble: Yeah but I live 16 miles away from it.....I like Colchester......cute goths and army guys |
| 12:33.40 | murble | cool, so you can fail from the comfort of your room. |
| 12:33.53 | murble | and military prisioners. |
| 12:34.41 | dankolb | Right. Breakfast time. |
| 12:34.43 | dankolb | Byee |
| 12:34.50 | Jenson | See ya dankolb |
| 12:34.52 | stephen | anyone recommend a good site to download knoppix from? |
| 12:35.07 | Jenson | The knoppix site? |
| 12:36.10 | highbury | stephen: depends how you want to download it. I prefer rsync, but all the rsync sites are down or out of date. Otherwise check out www.knoppix.org |
| 12:36.44 | stephen | highbury: would prefer FTP, but I'll have a look |
| 12:36.52 | highbury | normally I like ftp.leo.org, which though based in germany, is really fast |
| 12:37.11 | murble | source.rfc822.org is good. |
| 12:37.18 | Jenson | stephen: Bear in mind the size disk you want to put it on, and whether you're disc burner software supports overburn |
| 12:37.23 | Jenson | (which mine doesnt) |
| 12:37.32 | Jenson | s/disk/disc |
| 12:37.33 | murble | Jenson: so use cdrecord. |
| 12:37.44 | Jenson | murble: Win98SE. |
| 12:37.54 | highbury | you don't need to overburn, just get a 700Mb CD, which are now very common |
| 12:38.02 | Jenson | I'll have this as my Linux machine eventually lol |
| 12:38.11 | Jenson | highbury: It's a 714MB d/l |
| 12:38.25 | Jenson | I've had 700MB CDs for ages |
| 12:38.40 | Jenson | But my CDBurner software only supports 650MB |
| 12:39.00 | highbury | they whouldn't have put it up if it didn't fit |
| 12:39.07 | Jenson | I used to have a better one, but when I formatted I didn't have the right apps discs |
| 12:39.14 | highbury | stephen: are you running Linux? |
| 12:39.30 | Jenson | highbury: I expect it does fit, just my software wouldn't handle it, so I never finished d/ling it, just got slack instead. |
| 12:39.41 | stephen | highbury: sure am |
| 12:39.53 | highbury | Jenson: you could have bout a copy yesterday |
| 12:40.12 | highbury | stephen: and did you say you did or didn't have a burner? |
| 12:40.17 | stephen | i do |
| 12:40.45 | Jenson | highbury: I don't want knoppix. People said would be a good one to test, but I just got slack instead |
| 12:40.58 | highbury | ok fine. I believe you are probably safe to ignore what jenson said |
| 12:41.12 | highbury | Jenson: ok fine |
| 12:41.29 | Jenson | Yeah stephen ignore me :) |
| 12:41.35 | Jenson | I'm just a silly girl |
| 12:41.48 | highbury | Jenson: so now we've established you'll need a decent CD burner... |
| 12:41.57 | highbury | just a bit scatty |
| 12:42.06 | Jenson | I have a decent burner....just outdated software |
| 12:42.11 | stephen | anyway, it'll be a while before it's finished downloading and i can burn it |
| 12:42.19 | Jenson | Scatty.....did you think that when you saw me? |
| 12:44.41 | highbury | no, very quiet looking |
| 12:44.51 | Jenson | stephen: You aren't downloading it on dial-up are you? |
| 12:45.07 | Jenson | highbury: I was only quiet because I didn't know anyone, I'll soon fit myself in. |
| 12:45.09 | highbury | but your having problems concentating ;) |
| 12:45.55 | highbury | we all just thought you were dank's girlfriend, and he didn't introduce you |
| 12:46.14 | Jenson | Well I'm paying attention now highbury, I was talking to Dan and telling my mate Bee about a cute guy I saw at gllug..that's why I was distracted a few mins back |
| 12:46.22 | Jenson | He did introduce me to a few people. |
| 12:46.25 | Jenson | Like sash |
| 12:46.36 | highbury | stephen: http://www.knoppix.net/get.php is a good site to find out were to get knoppix |
| 12:46.42 | Jenson | and sash introduced me to formi, and Spud introduced himself. |
| 12:47.33 | highbury | oh well, I was the one in the off-white jumper |
| 12:47.49 | Jenson | Dan did point you out. |
| 12:47.57 | Jenson | Oh and I spoke to zach and murb |
| 12:48.35 | Jenson | I'll try to make sure I say hi next time I see you. |
| 12:49.05 | highbury | :-) |
| 12:53.05 | Jenson | Well I'm going to go and get some food. |
| 12:53.09 | Jenson | I'll be back later |
| 12:53.13 | Jenson | Have a nice day :) |
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| 13:14.16 | stephen | highbury: cheers - but i've just finished downloading it :) |
| 13:14.16 | highbury | wow! you must have a fast connection! |
| 13:14.18 | highbury | these netsplits are starting to get annoying |
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| 13:35.46 | stephen | this isn't allowed! knoppix is *far* too easy |
| 13:35.59 | stephen | i just put it in and off it went |
| 13:36.12 | stephen | outrageous! |
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| 13:53.56 | Jenson | wb Tom |
| 13:54.34 | ResuDaed | ty Jenson |
| 13:54.59 | ResuDaed | is too early ... am too tired for study |
| 13:55.21 | Jenson | Early.....its the afternoon mate |
| 13:55.36 | ResuDaed | same diffrerence ... I didn't get up till 12.15 |
| 13:55.46 | ResuDaed | (or home till 2) |
| 13:55.56 | Jenson | I went to bed at 2....got up at 11. |
| 13:56.03 | ResuDaed | then watched black hawk down |
| 13:56.36 | Jenson | At least you managed to scrounge the money to get to the pub yesterday |
| 13:57.09 | eye69 | Hi ResuDaed |
| 13:57.20 | Jenson | hey eye69 |
| 13:57.27 | eye69 | Hey ho |
| 13:58.07 | Jenson | Well done eye69....what did you do last night then? |
| 13:58.24 | eye69 | Office |
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| 13:59.33 | Jenson | hey omphe |
| 13:59.44 | omphe | Afternoon everybody. |
| 14:00.48 | omphe | Thanks to highbury (and zachary?) for the meet yesterday. |
| 14:02.05 | Jenson | I don't think I saw you there omphe, but then again I don't know you. |
| 14:03.24 | omphe | American, tallish, #2 hair, taking books off steve and suggesting resources for newcomers. |
| 14:04.33 | Jenson | The only American I saw was zach |
| 14:04.40 | Jenson | You may well have seen me though |
| 14:05.53 | omphe | No idea, I only know about three people's names by now. |
| 14:06.27 | Jenson | Well, I'm a girl. |
| 14:07.22 | omphe | Gathered that much. And it does narrow it significantly. But.. |
| 14:07.45 | Jenson | You may not have seen me. |
| 14:08.19 | omphe | Nice meet overall. Last two I attended had flame-wars. |
| 14:09.08 | Jenson | It was the first meet I've been to |
| 14:09.15 | Jenson | Yeah I can imagine flamewars happening |
| 14:10.11 | omphe | MySQL talk was brill...the SE Linux bit guy drinks too much coffee! ;) |
| 14:10.59 | Jenson | I didn't go in the talks |
| 14:12.39 | omphe | What went on in the lab? |
| 14:13.14 | Jenson | I wasn't in there all that much either....I kinda wandered off with my boyfriend after I'd spoke to a few people. |
| 14:13.26 | Jenson | ^spoken |
| 14:14.01 | omphe | Fair enough. |
| 14:14.47 | Jenson | I met some cool people though. |
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| 14:16.39 | Jenson | heya formi |
| 14:18.34 | formi | hello |
| 14:20.26 | eye69 | Hi formi |
| 14:20.46 | formi | mr Magnus |
| 14:21.19 | formi | eye69: ever played with a hp715 ? |
| 14:21.20 | ResuDaed | what processes are likley to use my cd in the background? |
| 14:21.40 | ResuDaed | (ie I go to umount, device is busy ... all i did was mount it and ls) |
| 14:22.02 | formi | if you cd to the cdrom, you have to go back |
| 14:22.16 | Jenson | ResuDaed: Mine does that. |
| 14:22.34 | Jenson | No comment |
| 14:22.35 | Jenson | :) |
| 14:22.39 | ResuDaed | I had it in the cdrom directory in another terminal |
| 14:22.44 | ResuDaed | doh! |
| 14:23.13 | zachary | ResuDaed: don't wory I have done that as well. |
| 14:23.20 | Jenson | :) I'm sure we've all done that (except me) |
| 14:24.07 | omphe | Mine get's highjacked by my wireless box when I shutdown. |
| 14:24.38 | formi | I have done something worst, I forget to take the line out of /etc/exports, and spent wondering 5 mins |
| 14:25.40 | omphe | Have to chew on that one ..?.. |
| 14:26.03 | formi | omphe: ?? |
| 14:26.29 | omphe | Shouldn't it be in exports if you're mounting via nfs? |
| 14:26.53 | formi | yeah if you export the cdrom directory |
| 14:27.15 | formi | I own 5 machines and only one has a cdrom |
| 14:27.41 | omphe | Yeah, my wireless laptop is ancient, no CD. |
| 14:28.10 | formi | not having a cdrom doesn't mean is ancient! |
| 14:28.27 | omphe | Do I need to script an nfs umount for halt on the laptop? |
| 14:28.32 | formi | I prefer laptops without cdroms |
| 14:28.40 | Jenson | I have 6 machines (2 in bits) and 8 CDROM drives |
| 14:28.53 | omphe | Yeah but a laptop with 760M hard drive? C'mon! |
| 14:30.14 | formi | I used to have freebsd on a machine running with a laptop harddisk, 800Mb |
| 14:31.22 | omphe | X absolutely fubar's things on kit like this. |
| 14:33.29 | formi | there is something called TinyX, I'll have to check it though |
| 14:33.58 | formi | omphe: I have a thinkpad 560E for sale/swap if you want one |
| 14:34.10 | omphe | I'd run all in console, but I like dillo for web and my Thinkpad has screen sizing issues. |
| 14:35.08 | formi | which one do you have> |
| 14:35.09 | formi | ? |
| 14:35.33 | zachary | Did anyone remove the gllug signs after the meeting? |
| 14:35.41 | omphe | 760C. All I get is 400x600 in console. |
| 14:36.02 | Jenson | No idea zachary |
| 14:36.38 | omphe | I saw you rip down 4-5 off the doors. |
| 14:37.00 | omphe | ^Zachary that is |
| 14:38.16 | formi | zachary: not me, I run to have the tables reordered in the pub |
| 14:38.59 | formi | omphe: If you are up for an upgrade, and have £150, drop me a line |
| 14:39.48 | zachary | I managed to grab 5 but, I forgot about the ones outside. |
| 14:40.01 | Jenson | They'll soon blow away zachary |
| 14:40.24 | omphe | Or tramp TP. |
| 14:41.29 | Jenson | BTW, isn't there a site with pics from the last few gllug meets....or am I imagining that? |
| 14:41.59 | formi | there is an old one with most of the usualls |
| 14:42.04 | Jenson | Yeah |
| 14:42.06 | formi | and leeds site |
| 14:42.10 | Jenson | I don't know the URLs |
| 14:42.12 | formi | at leeds site |
| 14:42.17 | formi | one sec |
| 14:42.20 | Jenson | Thanks |
| 14:43.30 | formi | http://gllug.vmlinuz.org/modules.php?name=gallery |
| 14:44.06 | Jenson | that doesn't seem to exist |
| 14:44.51 | Jenson | oh yeah it does, stupid browser |
| 15:00.50 | formi | omphe: mail sent to you |
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| 15:17.04 | Jenson | hey dankolb |
| 15:17.13 | dankolb | Hi |
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| 15:21.16 | Jenson | hey davilion |
| 15:21.40 | dankolb | hi davilion |
| 15:22.01 | formi | hi ppls |
| 15:22.10 | dankolb | hi formi |
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| 15:25.36 | Jenson | hey targz |
| 15:25.51 | targz | Hey Jenson |
| 15:25.51 | dankolb | hi targz |
| 15:26.04 | targz | God, I didn't know I was so popular |
| 15:26.14 | Jenson | :) |
| 15:26.17 | targz | I'm ... quite overwhelmed |
| 15:26.29 | dankolb | :) |
| 15:26.35 | formi | targz: well, we have a new victim |
| 15:26.51 | Jenson | Oh dear, the thought of being formi's victim |
| 15:26.55 | targz | Dan, are you the Kolb of Fields and Kolb? |
| 15:27.13 | targz | JSP book? |
| 15:27.21 | dankolb | No |
| 15:27.36 | targz | Thank God for that |
| 15:27.46 | targz | ... now I can slag JSP :-) |
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| 15:28.04 | dankolb | :) |
| 15:28.11 | dankolb | hi stephen |
| 15:28.12 | Jenson | wb stephen, how's the knoppix download? |
| 15:28.39 | targz | Waddya think will happen to Mandrake? |
| 15:28.43 | stephen | hi all |
| 15:28.50 | stephen | knoppix was great |
| 15:28.58 | targz | Here, here! |
| 15:29.31 | dankolb | Dunno. Maybe get developed by the community |
| 15:29.33 | dankolb | (if they go under) |
| 15:29.34 | targz | I rescued a friend's data from his broken 'doze over Xmas with Knoppix |
| 15:30.03 | targz | With RH going slightly off the beaten GPL track there could be a niche |
| 15:30.31 | targz | They could be the "Red Hat of old" distro |
| 15:30.53 | dankolb | :) |
| 15:30.54 | dankolb | There's always Slackware |
| 15:30.56 | dankolb | :) |
| 15:30.58 | targz | Or the "One, True GPL Red Hat" by another name |
| 15:31.19 | stephen | targz: yeah, but people buying Linux first time choose RH because that's all they've heard about - and always will |
| 15:31.44 | formi | stephen: we are NOT all americans |
| 15:32.07 | targz | If the want pure KDE but like things like 'chkconfig' Mandrake could be a winner |
| 15:32.11 | dankolb | :) |
| 15:32.11 | dankolb | Not necessarily |
| 15:32.27 | stephen | yeah, but people just see RH on the shelves of like Pc World and buy that |
| 15:32.44 | Jenson | stephen: I saw RH and Slack....and bought Slack |
| 15:32.52 | Jenson | not in PCworld I might add |
| 15:33.07 | stephen | Jenson: slackware - where? |
| 15:33.10 | targz | I thought Mandrake had a bigger share of the home user market than RH? |
| 15:33.22 | Jenson | stephen: Local comp fair |
| 15:33.35 | stephen | Jenson: okay |
| 15:35.25 | Jenson | I ought to be going, I'm going to get disconnected anyway and I've spent 4 hours olnine already today |
| 15:35.42 | dankolb | Will you be back? |
| 15:36.04 | Jenson | I will yeah |
| 15:36.10 | dankolb | Good :) |
| 15:36.13 | dankolb | Just reconnect :) |
| 15:36.16 | targz | A newbie-ish question: My Mozilla 1.2.1 crashed so often I reverted back |
| 15:36.40 | targz | to 1.1. Sometimes it crashed the system, occupying 99% CPU |
| 15:37.03 | targz | How is this possible with pre-emptive multi-taking |
| 15:37.10 | targz | and protected memory? |
| 15:37.14 | formi | targz: where you looking at any flash ? |
| 15:37.34 | targz | No. Simply accessing menus or shortcut keyes froze everything |
| 15:37.51 | targz | .. sometimes ... very unpredictable |
| 15:38.27 | targz | 'top' showed Mozilla hogging ALL the CPU during such a crash |
| 15:39.08 | formi | that used to be very normal, it's quite stable now |
| 15:39.21 | formi | which distro? |
| 15:39.23 | targz | What, the kernel or Moz? |
| 15:39.29 | targz | Mandrake 8.2 |
| 15:39.40 | targz | Stable as **** before Moz1.2.1 |
| 15:39.47 | Jenson | I really am going now |
| 15:39.48 | Jenson | Bye guys |
| 15:39.59 | targz | Bye, Jenson |
| 15:40.01 | dankolb | bye J |
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| 15:49.57 | zachary | dankolb: Don't you mean "Bye, smoochie pooh." |
| 15:50.19 | formi | zachary: I love you |
| 15:50.21 | dankolb | :-) |
| 15:50.52 | zachary | formi: kiss, kiss babe |
| 15:51.05 | zachary | Ok maybe that was to much! |
| 15:52.01 | formi | we should change the topic to something like "Continous dwelling in this channel might increase your IRONY!!!" |
| 15:53.49 | stephen | right, i'm off as i need to use windows *groan* |
| 15:55.05 | formi | zachary: just read the installfest announcement |
| 15:55.26 | formi | where is the "external link to the map showing the green man" |
| 15:55.28 | formi | ? |
| 15:56.52 | zachary | brb |
| 15:57.02 | formi | okis |
| 16:02.34 | zachary | I copied it off of the web page. Sory the link didn't copy as well |
| 16:03.56 | zachary | http://gllug.org.uk/installfest-20030301.html |
| 16:10.36 | formi | zachary: I have no problem I know where the pub is :-> |
| 16:20.47 | murble | formi: did you ever talk to the landlady yesterday? |
| 16:22.05 | formi | yes, she couldn't find the bag |
| 16:24.30 | formi | murble: check your mail at klepto |
| 16:24.56 | highbury | allegedly FreeBSD 5.0 has just been released |
| 16:25.22 | formi | <huhmz> i have i386 isos, i slashdottet my box :) |
| 16:25.37 | formi | from #freebsd |
| 16:26.16 | murble | formi: I don't belive in using klepto for mail. |
| 16:26.37 | formi | murble: but, can you receive mail there? |
| 16:27.42 | murble | 100quid + vat for a ss5 is expensive. |
| 16:28.20 | formi | i like the hp 715/100 |
| 16:28.42 | formi | even though it doesn't have a pci slot |
| 16:50.59 | zachary | bbl |
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| 17:05.23 | formi | hey leeds |
| 17:12.20 | ResuDaed | is there a way of limiting the bandwidth of file downloaded over http |
| 17:12.22 | ResuDaed | ? |
| 17:12.53 | ResuDaed | basically my downstream is significantly bigger than their upstream ... and I don't want to abuse their connection |
| 17:13.04 | formi | without funky iptables meddling I don't know |
| 17:14.22 | ResuDaed | wget has a bandwidth limit |
| 17:14.27 | formi | but I do assume NO from a userland perspective |
| 17:15.03 | formi | ok I get you now |
| 17:15.32 | formi | I thought you were talking about general user speed limiting |
| 17:15.48 | formi | if wget has it, you might as well use it |
| 17:16.03 | ResuDaed | --limit-rate= |
| 17:16.06 | ResuDaed | useful |
| 17:16.50 | ResuDaed | I have not found a way of limiting my upstream for certain processes yet (ie apache/rsync0 |
| 17:17.32 | ResuDaed | then again i havn't got around to setting up the routing on the network yet either so... |
| 17:17.38 | ResuDaed | ... all on list of things to do |
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| 17:26.39 | murble | hi stephen |
| 17:26.45 | stephen | lo |
| 17:27.08 | Leeds | afternoon |
| 17:28.19 | murble | right, i can now ssh from my laptop at home to my machine behind the firewall at work :) |
| 17:34.10 | formi | murble: what do you think about the hp 715/100 ? |
| 17:35.50 | murble | for 59 quid? |
| 17:36.00 | murble | have you checked ebay? |
| 17:36.33 | formi | £59 + VAT |
| 17:37.02 | formi | I mean the machine itself not the price |
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| 17:39.56 | dankolb | 'ullo |
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| 17:40.04 | Axel | hiho |
| 17:40.05 | Jenson | hey dankolb |
| 17:40.06 | dankolb | Hey Axel |
| 17:40.08 | Jenson | Hey Axel |
| 17:40.20 | formi | hi Axel |
| 17:40.24 | Jenson | Hey formi |
| 17:40.35 | formi | wb Jenson |
| 17:40.41 | Jenson | ty mate |
| 17:40.45 | stephen | Axel: its just so cool isn't it :) |
| 17:40.46 | Axel | hi folks |
| 17:40.55 | Axel | stephen: it rocks! |
| 17:41.11 | Axel | it's debian and it works like a dream! just perfect for a n00b like me ;) |
| 17:41.20 | murble | doesn't work on my tft |
| 17:41.25 | Jenson | hey murble |
| 17:41.30 | murble | tries to drive it at stupid whatit |
| 17:41.32 | murble | s |
| 17:41.38 | dankolb | Frequencies?\ |
| 17:41.48 | Axel | anyone in here using KDE/KMail? |
| 17:41.52 | stephen | resolutions? |
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| 17:42.36 | Jenson | wb Axel |
| 17:42.38 | Axel | oops |
| 17:42.41 | Axel | =) |
| 17:42.56 | Axel | sendmail doesn't work ;( |
| 17:43.10 | stephen | or type /quit |
| 17:43.14 | murble | running at a high frequence is pointless with a tft, just means that the screen needs to do more work |
| 17:43.19 | formi | has anybdoy used TinyX? |
| 17:43.34 | Axel | dankolb: how are the CDs? any good? |
| 17:44.00 | dankolb | I haven't had a chance to try them |
| 17:44.09 | Axel | k |
| 17:44.13 | dankolb | I'd prefer not to do a clean OS X.2 install |
| 17:44.24 | murble | X.22? |
| 17:44.34 | Axel | dankolb: ok, but you've been warned ;) |
| 17:44.46 | dankolb | murble: Not sure |
| 17:44.52 | dankolb | Yeah :) |
| 17:44.59 | dankolb | What happens if you don't do a clean install, anyway? |
| 17:46.13 | Leeds | formi: what do you mean by tiny X? |
| 17:46.51 | formi | TinyX is the name of a light X server, that is as much as I know |
| 17:47.11 | Jenson | Heya Leeds |
| 17:47.41 | Axel | dankolb: i found it runs better... i tried to upgrade from 10.1 but it sucked badly |
| 17:48.01 | dankolb | explain "sucked badly" |
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| 17:48.37 | Jenson | hey Tarragon |
| 17:48.44 | dankolb | Hi Tarragon |
| 17:48.57 | Axel | hi |
| 17:49.10 | Jenson | I take it you are home now Tarragon and not with Spud. |
| 17:49.25 | Axel | i'm getting errors when I try apt-get... anyone familiar with debian in here? |
| 17:49.37 | Tarragon | Just got home :-( |
| 17:49.43 | formi | Jenson: with those 2 you can never now |
| 17:49.52 | formi | s/now/know |
| 17:49.54 | Jenson | lol formi :P |
| 17:50.19 | Jenson | dankolb: Leave the debian newbie alone |
| 17:50.24 | dankolb | Why? |
| 17:50.30 | dankolb | They deserve all they get ;-) |
| 17:50.36 | Jenson | Not the newbies |
| 17:50.41 | Axel | hehe |
| 17:50.52 | Jenson | Axel: Just ignore my boyfriend ok. |
| 17:50.59 | dankolb | They should use a better distro :) |
| 17:51.01 | Axel | LOL |
| 17:51.07 | Axel | may i post the error message? |
| 17:51.10 | dankolb | You may |
| 17:51.12 | Jenson | Go for it |
| 17:51.12 | Axel | thanks dan |
| 17:51.15 | Axel | thx |
| 17:51.16 | Axel | oot@eden:~# apt-get install galleon |
| 17:51.16 | Axel | Reading Package Lists... Error! |
| 17:51.16 | Axel | eye69: Dynamic MMap ran out of room |
| 17:51.16 | Axel | eye69: Error occured while processing kdegames (NewVersion1) |
| 17:51.18 | Axel | eye69: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.kde.org_pub_kde_stable_latest_Debian_sid_._Packages |
| 17:51.20 | Axel | eye69: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or op |
| 17:51.22 | Axel | ---- |
| 17:51.27 | dankolb | Oops |
| 17:51.31 | Axel | s/eye69/E |
| 17:51.41 | Axel | :) |
| 17:51.57 | Axel | any clues? |
| 17:52.17 | Jenson | Nope sorry Axel, I'm a Slack newbie |
| 17:52.31 | Axel | :( |
| 17:52.39 | Axel | pity |
| 17:52.53 | Jenson | The resident debian geeks aren't here |
| 17:53.04 | Axel | shame on them |
| 17:53.06 | Jenson | At least I don't think they are. |
| 17:53.22 | Jenson | Although that looks like an X/KDE problem |
| 17:53.33 | dankolb | MMap is memory mapping, isn't it? |
| 17:53.33 | dankolb | So it can't get reading the package lists |
| 17:53.33 | dankolb | Run an apt-get update |
| 17:53.33 | Jenson | But I really don't know anything about Linux yet |
| 17:53.34 | dankolb | Then try again? |
| 17:53.42 | dankolb | That'd be my suggestion |
| 17:53.44 | dankolb | Or try and rebuild the .deb database, if that's become corrupted |
| 17:53.48 | dankolb | (and, of course, you wouldn't have this problem with Slack) ;-) |
| 17:53.59 | Axel | oops :) |
| 17:54.12 | Axel | yeah, ran update first thing after install... |
| 17:54.18 | Jenson | Stop correcting him dankolb |
| 17:54.20 | Tarragon | http://80.193.176.48/~colin/gllug20031.html photos from last night. |
| 17:54.24 | Axel | fetched stuff but then gave me the error |
| 17:54.28 | Axel | cool |
| 17:54.56 | dankolb | Right. |
| 17:54.56 | dankolb | strace apt-get install galeon |
| 17:54.56 | dankolb | :) |
| 17:54.57 | Jenson | ty Tarragon |
| 17:55.13 | dankolb | Jenson: Correcting what? |
| 17:55.41 | Axel | dankolb: uhm... did that |
| 17:55.51 | Axel | loads of stuff happening... what am I looking for? |
| 17:56.01 | Jenson | You are allowed to correct my spelling and grammar, no-one elses |
| 17:56.58 | Leeds | formi: the iPAQ uses tinyx... |
| 17:58.47 | dankolb | If he doesn't spell the package name right, it ain't gonna work |
| 17:58.47 | dankolb | It's not just a pedantic correction |
| 17:58.48 | dankolb | No idea. You might know if you're looking at it |
| 17:59.00 | dankolb | And I'm damn well going to correct spelling if it's fundamental to the operation |
| 17:59.02 | dankolb | (like galleon->galeon, coz otherwise it won't work) |
| 17:59.02 | Leeds | anyone's what? |
| 17:59.06 | dankolb | Axel: You any good at programming? |
| 17:59.15 | Axel | lol |
| 17:59.17 | Axel | no |
| 17:59.26 | Axel | btw. i spelled it correctly now... galeon |
| 17:59.39 | dankolb | spelling and/or grammar |
| 18:00.11 | Axel | not much grammar in a single word... |
| 18:00.12 | dankolb | and still no luck? |
| 18:00.13 | Axel | :) |
| 18:00.22 | dankolb | No, but spelling :) |
| 18:00.30 | formi | Leeds: How easy do you think it would be to put on x86? |
| 18:00.39 | Leeds | and the grammar was wrong in dankolb's "anyone's" |
| 18:00.48 | Leeds | formi: very easy... just build with the right option |
| 18:01.17 | dankolb | Leeds: I never said I was perfect |
| 18:01.27 | Axel | dankolb: nope |
| 18:01.34 | formi | Leeds: what are the limitations/drawbacks? |
| 18:01.41 | dankolb | Damn |
| 18:02.19 | skugg | unrelated to what? |
| 18:02.33 | Jenson | Hey skugg...to what formi actually meant |
| 18:02.42 | dankolb | You might have to rebuild the .deb database then |
| 18:02.47 | Leeds | formi: not sure... I'd guess things like static drivers rather than loading modules, and certain features turned on or off by default... it's probably in the docs |
| 18:02.48 | skugg | oh |
| 18:03.02 | Axel | dankolb: how would i do that? |
| 18:03.06 | Jenson | but dankolb you love cats |
| 18:03.40 | dankolb | Jenson: That's true. But that doesn't mean that they're not irritating creatures. |
| 18:03.43 | dankolb | they're just irresistable, so you can't say no |
| 18:03.46 | Leeds | http://www.firebox.com/index.html?dir=firebox&action=product&pid=480 |
| 18:03.56 | Leeds | skugg: how are the exams going? |
| 18:04.04 | dankolb | Axel: No idea. I could tell you under RPM, but that doesn't help |
| 18:04.09 | dankolb | Axel: Try 'man dpkg' |
| 18:04.22 | Axel | thx |
| 18:04.28 | stephen | lol @ http://slartibartfast.nerd.dk/~scoof/resignation.txt |
| 18:04.41 | Leeds | or, of course, with slackware - there's no need! :-) |
| 18:04.55 | Jenson | Are we having a pro Slack barrage? |
| 18:05.09 | *** join/#gllug adb (~andrew@81.2.66.249) |
| 18:05.23 | Jenson | hey adb |
| 18:05.24 | stephen | if you want ;) |
| 18:05.40 | skugg | Leeds, revision is "slow, 2" in slashdotspeak I guess |
| 18:06.11 | adb | hi - first time on IRC so I guess I don't know what I am doing! |
| 18:06.18 | dankolb | Yes |
| 18:06.21 | dankolb | Hi adb |
| 18:06.27 | skugg | Axel, what you trying to? |
| 18:06.43 | dankolb | adb: Are you a gllugger? |
| 18:06.44 | Jenson | Well adb in true bad irc style....a/s/l? |
| 18:06.45 | Axel | skugg: using apt-get |
| 18:07.00 | Axel | skugg: gives me strange errors... |
| 18:07.08 | Leeds | adb: just talk :-) |
| 18:07.15 | adb | indeed I am a gllugger, there yesterday |
| 18:07.24 | Jenson | I know we don't dankolb |
| 18:07.34 | dankolb | Aha. Are you on the mailing list. If so, who are you? :) |
| 18:07.44 | dankolb | (oh, and welcome to #gllug) |
| 18:08.06 | adb | oH have I fallen into a trap then !! |
| 18:08.07 | skugg | Axel, what errors? |
| 18:08.29 | dankolb | adb: Of course. There's no escaping :) |
| 18:09.51 | Jenson | Well adb, do I get your a/s/l? |
| 18:10.16 | dankolb | We need a real name too :) Correlate to the mailing list |
| 18:10.58 | Leeds | adb: are you just here to chat? |
| 18:11.05 | Jenson | wb davilion |
| 18:11.07 | adb | I am Andrew Black. I thougt the protocol was to be cryptic |
| 18:11.32 | Jenson | It is lol |
| 18:11.44 | Tarragon | Hello Andrew. Yes cryptic normally |
| 18:11.49 | skugg | axel: hm. i had that errer here the other day... never seen it before. my workaround: comment out a few of the lines in /etc/apt/sources.conf and do apt-get update, then uncomment them and do apt-get update again. should work now. |
| 18:12.04 | Leeds | not really... some people use their name (dankolb), some use something silly (eye69) |
| 18:12.07 | skugg | not a clue why that happened |
| 18:12.28 | Jenson | And some name themselves after cities don't they Leeds |
| 18:12.45 | dankolb | I have a happy cat on my arms and my lap |
| 18:12.53 | stephen | how much traffic does the gllug discussion mailing list generate more or less? |
| 18:12.54 | Leeds | Jenson: my city of origin... |
| 18:13.00 | murble | dank: it is probably about ot be sick |
| 18:13.11 | dankolb | murble: No, he's not |
| 18:13.13 | murble | from not going to gllug or the pub afterwards? |
| 18:13.16 | Leeds | stephen: varies... can get up to 25+ messages per day, sometimes drops to 1 or 2 |
| 18:13.17 | dankolb | He's just happy |
| 18:13.18 | Tarragon | stephen: 1100 msg a month |
| 18:13.18 | Jenson | My realname isnt on mine |
| 18:13.24 | dankolb | Erm |
| 18:13.31 | stephen | ok |
| 18:13.34 | dankolb | More like up to about 70 messages a day |
| 18:13.42 | dankolb | Minimum about 15 |
| 18:13.50 | dankolb | (except at weekends when it's quieter) |
| 18:13.57 | formi | Jenson: you are a dishonest person |
| 18:13.58 | Leeds | hmmm... guess I don't notice the load when I check every 5 minutes :-) |
| 18:14.05 | dankolb | Leeds: Yup |
| 18:14.12 | Jenson | Yeah mine is autocheck every 5 |
| 18:14.13 | stephen | oh well, i'll probably join, too-much idle-bandidth in the world *grin* |
| 18:14.26 | dankolb | stephen: You should be an OxLUG person, anyway :) |
| 18:14.27 | Jenson | and I have about 250 unread msgs from the last few days |
| 18:14.46 | Jenson | You have a point there dan |
| 18:14.51 | adb | Ok - if I can be boring and ask a techy quest, how do you add new pagages in Mandrake (9) |
| 18:15.03 | Leeds | what's a pagage? |
| 18:15.14 | Jenson | package I think he means |
| 18:15.18 | davilion | what you get when you type package wrong? |
| 18:15.22 | dankolb | rpm -Uvh FOO.rpm |
| 18:15.22 | adb | pedant - a package |
| 18:15.33 | Leeds | actually, I thought you might mean page... |
| 18:16.05 | Tarragon | adb: Kmenu, Configuration, Packages InstallSoftware |
| 18:16.07 | adb | and how do I know what packages there are - is there a list on a web site somewhere |
| 18:16.46 | dankolb | rpm -qa |
| 18:16.50 | dankolb | will list all you have installed |
| 18:16.51 | Tarragon | adb: How did you install Mandy? The CD has more packages than is loaded on the machine |
| 18:17.40 | dankolb | What was it? |
| 18:17.49 | Jenson | About feeding the rabbit |
| 18:17.56 | Jenson | Spainish sexual reference |
| 18:18.04 | dankolb | Ahh |
| 18:18.05 | dankolb | :) |
| 18:18.07 | Jenson | :) |
| 18:18.18 | Leeds | feeding your dildo? |
| 18:18.27 | formi | she is up to something now!!! |
| 18:18.59 | adb | Ok - InstallSoftware gives me a list. Thanks for the help |
| 18:22.14 | dankolb | wb |
| 18:22.19 | Jenson | I'm back now :) |
| 18:23.00 | Jenson | I scared formi away! |
| 18:23.05 | dankolb | You did |
| 18:23.10 | dankolb | Too much rabbit feeding |
| 18:23.26 | Jenson | hehehehe |
| 18:28.13 | murble | rabit |
| 18:28.15 | murble | ? |
| 18:28.24 | Jenson | Don't ask murble |
| 18:28.52 | dankolb | Before she went away |
| 18:28.56 | davilion | we speak of feeding your horse, very rarely feeding your rabiit |
| 18:29.10 | davilion | or more often, feeding your pony |
| 18:30.02 | murble | don't ask me what? |
| 18:30.11 | Jenson | About the rabbit |
| 18:30.14 | Jenson | lol davilion |
| 18:30.27 | dankolb | Feeding the rabbit is, apparently, a Spanish sexual reference |
| 18:30.59 | Jenson | According to formi |
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| 18:31.39 | Jenson | wb targz |
| 18:32.13 | targz | Anyone know of an external DVD writer which can be used with Knoppix as a backup device? |
| 18:32.34 | dankolb | Presumably any external SCSI device? |
| 18:32.43 | skugg | slashme thinks he gets the reference, but will not go into any details |
| 18:32.56 | Jenson | Good idea skugg |
| 18:33.15 | Jenson | But formi kept refusing to tell me, just kept reminding me that I'd said something embarrassing |
| 18:33.29 | targz | dankolb: Have you come across anything specific? |
| 18:33.43 | dankolb | Nope |
| 18:34.03 | targz | What wouldl I use instead of 'mkisofs' and 'cdrecord'? |
| 18:34.33 | dankolb | mkisofs and dvdrecord ? |
| 18:34.37 | dankolb | Possibly |
| 18:35.02 | Leeds | why not use cdrecord and mkisofs? |
| 18:35.21 | skugg | http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:QcfMwZSSIIEC:members.aol.com/pmichaels/glorantha/darahaptrick.html+%22feeding+the+rabbit%22+sexual&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 |
| 18:35.21 | dankolb | Does cdrecord work with DVD writers? |
| 18:35.24 | skugg | :) |
| 18:35.30 | murble | what is the dvd type or writer? |
| 18:35.32 | Leeds | dankolb: sure... |
| 18:35.40 | dankolb | Okay |
| 18:35.44 | murble | dvdrecord only supports some types of writers |
| 18:35.53 | targz | I haven't used one yet. I'm wonderig what to buy |
| 18:35.58 | Jenson | lol skugg ty for that link |
| 18:36.00 | skugg | okay, so my idea of that reference was wrong :P |
| 18:36.21 | skugg | the real reference was a little less explicit i think. |
| 18:36.34 | Jenson | True skugg, us lot are just dirty minded |
| 18:36.44 | targz | 'dvdrecord'?? Is that a recent utility? |
| 18:37.23 | targz | Will 'cdrecord' do a full 4.7Gb on a DVD+RW? |
| 18:37.30 | Leeds | from the homepage: |
| 18:37.32 | Leeds | Cdrecord supports DVD-R and DVD-RW with all known DVD-writers on all UNIX-like OS and on Win32. |
| 18:37.33 | Leeds | DVD writing support is in cdrecord since march 1998. Cdrecord writes DVD media similar to CD media. |
| 18:37.37 | *** join/#gllug Huhn ([IIRO7KyRi@guru164.netsonic.fi) |
| 18:37.49 | Huhn | hi |
| 18:38.02 | murble | Leeds: but it doesn't work with the dvd+rw drives |
| 18:38.02 | dankolb | hi Huhn |
| 18:38.15 | Jenson | hey Huhn |
| 18:38.21 | targz | murble: The fly in the ointment |
| 18:38.27 | murble | and some of the newer cdrom writers have the packet writing bit in hardware which works really well, without all the linux packet writting. |
| 18:38.39 | murble | targz: on the +rw drives you can use "dd" :) |
| 18:38.45 | Huhn | hi dankolb, Jenson |
| 18:40.40 | Jenson | Well, dinner is ready |
| 18:40.42 | Jenson | Be back soon |
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| 18:50.59 | dankolb | wh |
| 18:51.00 | dankolb | wb |
| 18:51.05 | Axel | :) |
| 18:51.14 | Axel | gotta shoot... cyas |
| 18:51.17 | dankolb | cya |
| 18:52.41 | *** part/#gllug targz (~gr2@modem-3507.bear.dialup.pol.co.uk) |
| 18:52.58 | adb | ok - thanks for te help. I'm off for now |
| 18:53.03 | dankolb | Okay |
| 18:53.06 | dankolb | See you back here soon :) |
| 18:53.30 | *** part/#gllug adb (~andrew@81.2.66.249) |
| 18:54.55 | dankolb | Food time |
| 18:56.36 | Huhn | Jenson: how was the gllug meeting? |
| 18:59.15 | Jenson | It was good Huhn |
| 18:59.59 | Huhn | good :) |
| 19:00.13 | Jenson | How are you? |
| 19:00.26 | Huhn | fine, thanks, have been to the opera this afternoon ;) |
| 19:01.11 | Jenson | Sounds like fun, was it all in a language that you didn't understand? |
| 19:02.13 | Huhn | mh, it was in German.. but yes, it was difficult ;) |
| 19:02.58 | Jenson | Well at least you had a chance of understanding it then. |
| 19:03.14 | Huhn | a small chance ;) |
| 19:03.33 | Huhn | was the gllug meeting only one day? |
| 19:04.12 | Jenson | Yeah |
| 19:04.30 | Jenson | The next one is the installfest on March 1, and there will be a meet in April. |
| 19:05.03 | Huhn | sounds nice, maybe I'll catch a cheap flight and come over |
| 19:05.43 | Jenson | There are a few pictures from yesterday, they don't really show the meeting, but I can get you the link if you want. |
| 19:06.07 | Huhn | yes please |
| 19:07.05 | Jenson | http://80.193.176.48/~colin/gllug20031.html |
| 19:07.21 | Huhn | thx |
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| 19:23.40 | Jenson | hey zachary |
| 19:23.42 | zachary | Good evening |
| 19:23.58 | zachary | Went out for Italian, yum! |
| 19:24.04 | Jenson | :) |
| 19:24.48 | Jenson | I think I'm going to try and make sure I'm at the InstallFest even if Dan isn't...I think the newbie topics might be of help to me. |
| 19:26.26 | Jenson | Although the chances of me (and the mate that wants to come to the next meet with me) being able to find our way from the station to the uni are remote lol |
| 19:27.04 | stephen | where will the installfest be? |
| 19:27.23 | Jenson | Are'nt you on the mailing list stephen? |
| 19:27.31 | stephen | just joined |
| 19:27.51 | stephen | but just the announcements one |
| 19:27.51 | Jenson | Well it was sent out by zach today the info on it |
| 19:27.57 | Jenson | Oh I see. |
| 19:28.10 | Jenson | You want me to fwd you the mail with info on the installfest? |
| 19:28.26 | stephen | don't worry, it's probably on the website |
| 19:28.32 | Jenson | Not yet it isnt |
| 19:28.53 | stephen | oh |
| 19:28.58 | Jenson | Oh yes ity is |
| 19:29.06 | Jenson | It's been updated since this afternoon :) |
| 19:29.19 | Jenson | http://gllug.linux.co.uk/installfest-20030301.html |
| 19:29.50 | stephen | ty |
| 19:30.30 | zachary | Jenson: Just for future referance, gllug.org.uk points to the same server. It's just a shorter name. |
| 19:31.58 | Jenson | OK thanks zachary |
| 19:32.17 | Jenson | I type fast enough that it doesnt make all that much difference lol |
| 19:33.36 | Jenson | Ahhh I'm about to get disconnected |
| 19:33.36 | Jenson | BBL |
| 19:33.41 | dankolb | How later? |
| 19:33.52 | Jenson | About an hour I guess |
| 19:33.58 | Jenson | I ought to do something else |
| 19:34.24 | dankolb | Bremner, Bird & Fortune |
| 19:34.25 | dankolb | 8pm |
| 19:34.47 | Jenson | There is a reason why I should be watching that isn't there? |
| 19:35.20 | Jenson | Anyway |
| 19:35.22 | Jenson | I must go |
| 19:35.26 | Jenson | Later all |
| 19:35.37 | stephen | cya |
| 19:35.38 | dankolb | Political satire? |
| 19:35.38 | dankolb | Try it |
| 19:35.41 | dankolb | C'ya |
| 19:35.43 | *** part/#gllug Jenson (Jenson@host213-1-60-203.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 19:51.32 | highbury | it is nice and quiet here now :-) |
| 19:51.44 | zachary | yup |
| 19:51.49 | dankolb | It is. |
| 19:51.49 | dankolb | :) |
| 19:52.11 | zachary | ECHO, Echo, echo |
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| 20:25.43 | dankolb | hi formi |
| 20:25.53 | formi | ta |
| 20:26.00 | Huhn | hi formi |
| 20:27.11 | formi | hi finland individual |
| 20:27.22 | Huhn | pft, you know I'm German ;) |
| 20:28.03 | formi | ok. I admit my brain doesn't always work, I won't say anything about my memory |
| 20:28.25 | Huhn | oh, I thought you'd remember.. you asked some weeks ago.. |
| 20:28.29 | Huhn | nevermind |
| 20:29.01 | formi | weeks, in my case seem like eons |
| 20:29.39 | Huhn | what's wrong with your bain/memory? |
| 20:29.49 | Huhn | brain |
| 20:30.24 | formi | probably some degenerative disease |
| 20:30.45 | Huhn | too much beer? ;) |
| 20:33.50 | formi | sometimes |
| 20:34.33 | zachary | formi: Thanks for bringing up the link issue. I found out why it wouldn't copy over. Seems all the gllug-announce emails have had this problem. |
| 20:34.48 | zachary | url is too long. |
| 20:35.32 | formi | why don't you put a link to www.gllug.org.uk/whatever the info is |
| 20:35.53 | zachary | I did |
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| 20:36.04 | jessica | hi room |
| 20:36.11 | Huhn | hi jessica |
| 20:36.13 | zachary | but I'm waiting for a response to have the announce email pulled |
| 20:36.22 | dankolb | Hi jessica |
| 20:36.42 | jessica | How is everyone doing tonight? |
| 20:36.45 | formi | hi jessica |
| 20:36.48 | dankolb | Good |
| 20:37.08 | formi | jessica: invite me to beer and Ill tell you |
| 20:38.06 | jessica | well formi, you got some beer now :-) |
| 20:38.27 | Huhn | :) |
| 20:38.58 | formi | sorry I don't accept dcc, I'll send you mail snail mail address |
| 20:39.15 | Huhn | that may take a while ;) |
| 20:39.40 | jessica | how did everyone like gllug yesterday? |
| 20:39.53 | formi | Huhn: as long as I get it yes please |
| 20:40.08 | formi | jessica: we always like it |
| 20:40.20 | formi | jessica: the pub afterwards |
| 20:40.42 | jessica | yes, I heard the pub had good nachos |
| 20:41.37 | stephen | but it's true |
| 20:43.17 | formi | we have already being slashdotted as such |
| 20:43.27 | jessica | ouch |
| 20:44.22 | formi | murble: you are guilty |
| 20:44.35 | Huhn | formi: he is always guilty ;) |
| 20:45.37 | formi | well, skugg where at home yesterday drinking beer? |
| 20:45.44 | formi | well, skugg where u at home yesterday drinking beer? |
| 20:49.16 | skugg | formi, no. i went to a pub. but I don't need an excuse to do it |
| 20:49.29 | skugg | pfft: http://www.oralse.cx/ |
| 20:49.32 | formi | ok |
| 21:01.12 | highbury | formi: I adjusted the message, that one made it to gllug-announce |
| 21:01.14 | *** join/#gllug Jenson (Jenson@host213-1-143-171.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 21:01.32 | Jenson | Evening people |
| 21:01.41 | Huhn | wb, Jenson |
| 21:01.54 | Jenson | ty Huhn |
| 21:02.08 | dankolb | Hi J |
| 21:02.20 | Jenson | hey dankolb |
| 21:04.03 | formi | highbury: nice, less lost newbies |
| 21:05.17 | Jenson | Hey formi |
| 21:05.33 | formi | yes Jenson? |
| 21:05.48 | Jenson | Do i have to have a reason to say hey now? :P |
| 21:07.11 | highbury | I've also updated the main index page and meetings page |
| 21:09.08 | Jenson | Very organized aren't you highbury |
| 21:10.02 | highbury | improving. :-) |
| 21:10.10 | Jenson | Well done :) |
| 21:10.16 | highbury | you decided on a new pc yet? |
| 21:10.31 | Jenson | Haven't given it any more thought today actually. |
| 21:10.38 | formi | ok, does anybody have a zaurus in here? |
| 21:11.35 | Jenson | I'd take that lack of response as a no if I were you formi |
| 21:12.19 | formi | Jenson: are you trying to teach me how to suck eggs? |
| 21:12.58 | Jenson | formi: No, I suppose I could try though.... |
| 21:13.10 | formi | send me a mpeg |
| 21:13.51 | Jenson | lol |
| 21:14.32 | Leeds | formi: try #zaurus |
| 21:15.46 | formi | too much traffic in there leeds |
| 21:17.25 | Leeds | formi: it's the place to find people with zauruses :-) |
| 21:17.25 | formi | just annoyed there is no locate on it, checking a more interesting busy-box port |
| 21:18.17 | highbury | find / -print | grep "<locate-pattern>" |
| 21:18.17 | *** join/#gllug stephen (~stephen@hn-30-37.brookes.ac.uk) |
| 21:18.21 | Jenson | wb stephen |
| 21:18.47 | stephen | cheers - i think i could have screwed parts of my sys though :( |
| 21:19.05 | Jenson | stephen: Don't worry, I think we all do that. |
| 21:19.07 | dankolb | d'oh |
| 21:19.48 | stephen | my backup program decided to archive the iso of knoppix and east up every last byte on my disk with apps still trying to write to it |
| 21:19.55 | formi | highbury: ta that works |
| 21:20.25 | stephen | eat* |
| 21:23.57 | Jenson | Well stephen, that does sound like fun :D |
| 21:24.24 | stephen | ooh don't you doubt it for a second - i just love corrupted files |
| 21:25.02 | Jenson | :D |
| 21:25.48 | Jenson | Try not to sound so sarcastic... |
| 21:26.04 | stephen | ok - i'll try |
| 21:26.06 | dankolb | ): |
| 21:26.07 | dankolb | :) |
| 21:26.23 | *** join/#gllug mazogs (HydraIRC@host213-1-152-76.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 21:26.27 | dankolb | hi mazogs |
| 21:26.30 | mazogs | hi |
| 21:26.44 | Jenson | hey mazogs |
| 21:26.49 | mazogs | hello |
| 21:26.55 | Jenson | How are you? |
| 21:27.08 | mazogs | i think i saw you yesterday... fine thanks! |
| 21:27.12 | mazogs | and you? |
| 21:27.25 | Jenson | You saw me, I don't think I saw you, you should have come say hi. |
| 21:27.29 | Jenson | I'm fine thans |
| 21:27.36 | Jenson | ^thanks |
| 21:27.42 | dankolb | Who were you, mazogs? |
| 21:28.15 | mazogs | next time, i was in the second row, at the right side, during the talks |
| 21:28.23 | Jenson | I wasn't in the talks |
| 21:28.43 | mazogs | but did you come in at the end of the second one? |
| 21:29.05 | Jenson | I dont think so |
| 21:29.06 | Jenson | Dikd I? |
| 21:29.15 | dankolb | No |
| 21:29.35 | Jenson | I thougt not. |
| 21:29.45 | Jenson | There musta been another girl that I didn't see.... |
| 21:29.52 | dankolb | why do you think that? |
| 21:29.59 | mazogs | a only saw two girls, i though you were one of them |
| 21:30.00 | dankolb | Well, apart from Tom's bird |
| 21:30.32 | Jenson | She wasn't there til pub time |
| 21:30.38 | dankolb | true |
| 21:31.10 | mazogs | i was in the pub too, but i didn't see anyone and i went home :-( |
| 21:31.19 | dankolb | What time were you in the pub? |
| 21:31.24 | dankolb | We all got there around 5.30 |
| 21:32.02 | mazogs | i went home around that time! |
| 21:32.10 | Jenson | lol oopsie |
| 21:32.18 | eye69 | We must've gotten there at 17.45 |
| 21:32.47 | mazogs | next time i'll wait until 18:00 ok? |
| 21:32.50 | dankolb | Yup |
| 21:32.57 | Jenson | Good idea mazogs |
| 21:33.02 | eye69 | mazogs: Sounds like a good idea |
| 21:33.24 | dankolb | Bwah |
| 21:33.50 | Jenson | I'll go with Bee, she'll keep an eye on me, or more likely the guys lol |
| 21:33.58 | dankolb | As long as you promise to behave yourself |
| 21:34.02 | Jenson | :D |
| 21:34.21 | Jenson | Why, you can trust me with the gllug guys you know that |
| 21:34.31 | dankolb | Most of 'em..... ;-) |
| 21:34.46 | Jenson | :) |
| 21:36.09 | dankolb | neither? |
| 21:36.42 | Jenson | OK then, if you say so. |
| 21:37.22 | dankolb | :) |
| 21:38.41 | mazogs | i'm downloading the 'ufo envidence' from that link on /. .... |
| 21:39.38 | mazogs | it has to be funny |
| 21:40.06 | Jenson | I'll go look for the link on /. in a minute then |
| 21:43.10 | formi | brb |
| 22:22.54 | murble | good evening? |
| 22:23.01 | dankolb | Indeed |
| 22:23.08 | Jenson | hiya |
| 22:27.35 | Huhn | hiho murble |
| 22:38.23 | *** join/#gllug Clyphox (~david@pc-80-193-238-178-en.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 22:38.26 | Clyphox | Hi All |
| 22:38.34 | Jenson | Hey Clyphox |
| 22:38.42 | Clyphox | Hey :) |
| 22:38.45 | dankolb | Hi Clyphox |
| 22:38.54 | zachary | hi Clyphox |
| 22:39.19 | Clyphox | Hi (x2) |
| 22:39.29 | Clyphox | I crashed at PDR's last night hehe |
| 22:39.35 | Clyphox | only jsut got home hehe |
| 22:39.47 | Jenson | Last night was quite while ago.... |
| 22:39.47 | dankolb | You're the other Slack user, aren't you? |
| 22:39.47 | dankolb | heh |
| 22:39.59 | Clyphox | [nod] |
| 22:40.09 | Leeds | I just got Ribena up my nose... |
| 22:40.17 | Jenson | Well done Leeds! |
| 22:40.52 | Clyphox | hehe. I nearly choked to death on Coke (the drink) on Thurday.. |
| 22:41.17 | Clyphox | I was choughing up the stuff on Friday still.. |
| 22:41.32 | Jenson | Ewwwwwww |
| 22:41.46 | Clyphox | Yup.. wish it was coffee |
| 22:42.20 | Clyphox | from Thinkgeek? |
| 22:42.20 | Jenson | Just drink RedBull honey |
| 22:42.35 | Leeds | from Germany, apparently |
| 22:42.46 | dankolb | TG doesn't ship drinks outside the US |
| 22:42.50 | dankolb | (not even to Canada, the bastards) |
| 22:43.01 | Jenson | Canada isn't the US though |
| 22:43.07 | Clyphox | Weird I got some before. Two years ago though.. |
| 22:43.22 | dankolb | Yeah, but US&Canada are often treated together. At least for some porpoises |
| 22:43.28 | Clyphox | I got a tshirt and the IR car and I then paid £50 extra for customs.. |
| 22:43.30 | Leeds | http://www.cybercandy.co.uk ship it to the UK from the UK |
| 22:43.50 | dankolb | Woot |
| 22:44.01 | Clyphox | Kewl! |
| 22:44.16 | Jenson | I want a decent geek tshirt though, but all the sites seem to be US based |
| 22:44.19 | Leeds | along with many other similar things... it's a very cool (and dangerous) site |
| 22:44.30 | dankolb | The proper geek T-Shirts are free |
| 22:44.50 | Jenson | Like my Duke Nukem one Dan |
| 22:44.56 | murble | Jenson: get the thinkgeek geekgirl one. |
| 22:45.12 | Leeds | being a fool, I bought a few of http://www.cybercandy.co.uk/aaasmt/index.php/url_indprod?xlc=818 to take with me on holiday - of course, they're over-the-counter in .au |
| 22:45.14 | murble | I bought it for someone, but the US sizes were wrong so it become a nighty. |
| 22:45.20 | Clyphox | Jenson, http://store.slackware.com hehe |
| 22:45.33 | Jenson | That too is US based Clyphox |
| 22:45.34 | Clyphox | Best cut t-shirt I've ever bought.. |
| 22:45.35 | Leeds | most of my t-shirts are from work and/or conferences |
| 22:45.53 | Leeds | or M&S :-) |
| 22:46.28 | dankolb | Because you have Slack |
| 22:46.59 | Leeds | I've got a Slack t-shirt, and a Slack Tux sitting on my (Sun-branded) monitor at work... |
| 22:47.09 | Leeds | both given to me by Slack people... |
| 22:47.33 | stephen | cool - i keep looking at getting one, but they're pretty expensive |
| 22:47.44 | Jenson | I have a stupid wind-up penguin thing....and it isnt even mine it's my mothers |
| 22:47.54 | *** join/#gllug cupis (~paul@modem-657.dasyure.dialup.pol.co.uk) |
| 22:48.09 | Jenson | hey cupis |
| 22:48.20 | dankolb | Hi paul |
| 22:48.48 | cupis | evening all |
| 22:48.54 | Leeds | I've got two penguins, a monkey and a gecko at work, and a penguin and monkey at home :-) |
| 22:49.41 | cupis | Leeds: re: FOSDEM - are you still planning to do some kind of group booking? People seem to be doing individual bookings now... |
| 22:50.38 | Leeds | cupis: sorry... should have told you... I can't, because I'm going to expense it, so I have to book it via the work travel agency |
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| 22:51.07 | cupis | Leeds: okay, np. Just needed to know what the situation was one way or the other. |
| 22:51.13 | Jenson | wb mazogs |
| 22:51.23 | HydraIRC | ty :) |
| 22:51.26 | Jenson | yw |
| 22:51.32 | Jenson | Anyway, time for bed |
| 22:51.35 | Jenson | See ya tomorrow guys |
| 22:51.38 | cupis | night Jenson |
| 22:51.40 | stephen | night |
| 22:51.41 | HydraIRC | bye |
| 22:51.41 | Jenson | night cupis |
| 22:51.44 | Leeds | cupis: if you want to get into the 'official' hotel, I'd make it earlier rather than later |
| 22:51.47 | Leeds | night, Jenson |
| 22:51.48 | Jenson | night stephen |
| 22:51.53 | Jenson | night HydraIRC |
| 22:51.55 | Jenson | night Leeds |
| 22:51.59 | Jenson | night dankp |
| 22:52.02 | Jenson | oops |
| 22:52.02 | Jenson | lol |
| 22:52.11 | Jenson | Night all |
| 22:52.14 | *** part/#gllug Jenson (Jenson@host213-1-143-171.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 22:52.32 | cupis | Leeds: which the official hotel? atlas.be? |
| 22:52.55 | Leeds | yeah |
| 22:52.58 | cupis | Leeds: not _too_ bothered about that - I'll probably try and do it Mon/Tue anyway. |
| 22:54.09 | dankolb | night Jenson |
| 22:54.10 | *** join/#gllug dankolb_ (~dankolb@spookhive.demon.co.uk) |
| 22:54.19 | Clyphox | wb |
| 22:54.33 | murble | dank: i though you only had that with btopenwoe? |
| 22:54.42 | Leeds | cupis: it's nice to be in a hotel with other people you know... |
| 22:54.48 | dankolb_ | thanks |
| 22:54.50 | dankolb_ | Yeah |
| 22:54.52 | dankolb_ | But this wasn't talking to the Freenode servers properly |
| 22:55.23 | cupis | Leeds: true. I assume that individually booked Eurostar passengers can't choose to sit together as a group? |
| 22:55.53 | Leeds | true... but last time there was quite a lot of space on the train, so we all just met up :-) |
| 22:56.16 | Leeds | anyway, the thing with the hotel is about sharing cabs and stuff like that... |
| 22:56.45 | cupis | Leeds: I heard that altas and ibis were quite close to each other? |
| 22:57.50 | Leeds | apparently... I didn't get my head around the layout of the city last time... |
| 22:58.19 | cupis | Leeds: he. I'm sure it will all work out, one way or the other. |
| 23:01.26 | Leeds | it's not like we're likely to spend a huge amount of time at the hotel, when it comes to it |
| 23:14.10 | skugg | anyway, the train is only 3 hours, is it not? not a big deal, really... |
| 23:14.26 | skugg | when are you guys leaving? I don't have a ticket yet... |
| 23:14.55 | dankolb | skugg: Are you planning to FOSDEM too, then? |
| 23:15.12 | skugg | dankolb, yes |
| 23:15.21 | dankolb | Cool |
| 23:15.24 | skugg | but I'm too busy to find tickets etc |
| 23:15.47 | skugg | talked to Dean, he'd put out some feelers on gllug yesterday he said |
| 23:16.02 | skugg | haven't talked to him yet, so don't know what it came to |
| 23:16.14 | skugg | yeah, I guess. i have to book before my money run out :P |
| 23:16.26 | dankolb | :) |
| 23:16.30 | skugg | "quick! before the rent is due!" |
| 23:16.31 | skugg | :) |
| 23:16.35 | dankolb | :) |
| 23:17.53 | skugg | http://www.boners.com/content/788799.1.jpg |
| 23:25.35 | *** join/#gllug formi (~formi@usr1661-har.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 23:27.53 | Leeds | skugg: I'm planning on taking the 1027 train on Friday, and a 1700 or so train back on Monday |
| 23:30.33 | Leeds | y'all saw this, right? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/2673983.stm |
| 23:31.22 | dankolb | not yet |
| 23:39.46 | dankolb | Heh |
| 23:40.16 | Leeds | scary to hear him and thing "that's sensible..." |
| 23:41.16 | skugg | hm. well, he's got enough money anyway. I can understand some of the less mainstream artists that can barely live off their work. |
| 23:41.40 | dankolb | Yeah |
| 23:42.28 | HuhnZzZ | night night |
| 23:42.40 | dankolb | night HuhnZzZ |
| 23:42.58 | zachary | night HuhnZzZ, I'm off as well good night all |
| 23:45.27 | dankolb | excess? |
| 23:46.01 | skugg | :) |
| 23:46.11 | eye69 | Hi murb |
| 23:46.17 | Leeds | you mean excessive? |
| 23:46.37 | cupis | skugg: you mean murbling? :) |
| 23:46.39 | murble | probable |
| 23:46.44 | murble | ly |
| 23:46.47 | dankolb | :) |
| 23:46.51 | skugg | i rest my case :P |
| 23:46.54 | murble | murblish, HTH, HAND. |
| 23:47.30 | Leeds | murble: when are you pissing off again? |
| 23:47.46 | dankolb | When're your exams? |
| 23:47.56 | skugg | tue, wed, thu this week... |
| 23:48.00 | dankolb | Ah |
| 23:48.02 | dankolb | Best of luck |
| 23:48.05 | skugg | thanks |
| 23:48.23 | skugg | i'll need it i guess :) |
| 23:48.48 | dankolb | :) |
| 23:48.49 | dankolb | Sure you won't |
| 23:48.58 | Leeds | skugg: I suggest much beer... |
| 23:49.23 | dankolb | *AFTER* the exams |
| 23:49.44 | murble | I suggest more beer, get your mind into the same statte as when you did the classes. |
| 23:50.19 | dankolb | :) |
| 23:50.51 | Leeds | by the way... in case anyone hasn't read this... http://www.canonical.org/~kragen/tao-of-programming.html |
| 23:51.05 | skugg | Leeds, i'll take that advice. for thursday, after final exam |
| 23:52.29 | murble | beer worked for my alevels, stopped me pannikying or getting stressed or anything. |
| 23:55.01 | murble | is anyone going to NordU? |
| 23:55.38 | skugg | nordu? what's that? |
| 23:56.05 | formi | im back |
| 23:56.22 | murble | usenix coffernce in sweden after fosdem |
| 23:57.21 | murble | can you turn this into english skugg? "http://www.vasterasflygplats.se/showarticle.asp?id=502" |
| 23:57.30 | murble | formi: more training? |
| 23:57.49 | formi | ahem, not really, demoing |
| 23:59.03 | eye69 | murble: Wait a couple of minutes. |
