irclog2html for #gllug on 20030121

00:00.19ResuDaedI'm sure they used to check tickets on your line
00:00.33zimmResuDaed: if you get further than glasgow then you beat my record
00:01.17ResuDaedzimm : not a bad record
00:01.34ResuDaedI'm not going all that far tomorrow but anway
00:01.42zimmheheh ..
00:01.49ResuDaedI've been caught 3 times on this line
00:01.54JensonResuDaed: They do on the way, not on the way back
00:02.09ResuDaedcost me 30 quid ... I have saved myself over 300 quid
00:02.21ResuDaedI see no problem there
00:02.24zimmResuDaed: nice one ,,
00:02.24Jenson:) I told my mother that, she want impressed
00:02.37ResuDaedneither was mine ... my dad was though
00:02.42zimmhehe
00:02.47JensonI'm impressed
00:02.56formigod nights guys
00:03.39ResuDaedbut this is different, I am going the other way on the line and i have no idea of how good they are at checking tickets
00:04.09JensonWell in london everything is checked by ticket gates isnt it
00:04.28zimmthey check on the trains too sometimes
00:04.52ResuDaedapparantly not ... I didn't have my ticket checked once on the way to gllug ... gates were all open
00:05.11ResuDaedit's the trains I am worrying about ... gates can be jumped
00:05.27JensonI've never been checked on a train
00:06.07ompheI was stung for 30 quid for a trip to High Wycombe.
00:06.30dankolbOw
00:06.32dankolbWhere from?
00:06.38ompheLondon
00:06.40dankolb(and why would you ever want to go to High Wycombe?)
00:06.49JensonDo you guys all avoid your train fares?
00:06.56ompheUsed to tour with a dance company.
00:07.00ResuDaedthe only way :)
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00:07.19dav9600baudevening all
00:07.24Jensonhey Dave
00:07.33dav9600baudhi Jenson
00:07.35dav9600baudhows it going?>
00:07.41ResuDaedevening dav9600baud
00:07.48ResuDaedmobile?
00:08.09dav9600baudyeah, havent had time to set up gprs so am still using gsm
00:08.26dav9600baudand havent sorted out serial irda on my linux laptop so as soon as it connects to the net my laptop locks solid
00:08.37ResuDaedI'm sure I pulled 14400 from mine when I had the money
00:09.00ResuDaed(and the laptop)
00:09.14dav9600baudyeah with some u can bond two 9600 lines together and you get billed twice as much ore something
00:09.35ResuDaedapparantly the phone could run at 14400
00:09.54dav9600baudcool
00:10.10dav9600baudivce not bothered to check what im actually connected at but im assuming by the speed of my ssh session its 9600
00:10.14ResuDaedbut I only used it twice
00:11.46dav9600baudits quite cool
00:11.59dav9600baudi need to ste up a machine at work for dial in access so i can get a cheaper rate
00:15.52ResuDaedeveryone disappearing ... it's not even late yet
00:16.12ResuDaedwhat is an installfest?
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00:17.09Jensonwb
00:17.14zimm:-)
00:19.25ResuDaedwb zimm
00:19.46zimm:-)
00:21.13ResuDaedhave had to turn gamma down on screen ... taken max dose of paracetemol
00:21.41zimmResuDaed: hehe ,, need some devent shades mate ..
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00:21.47ResuDaedbrb -- switching to X ...
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00:24.32resudaedtis better ... although running moz will probably kill this box
00:25.04resudaedbrb -- got to change thingie
00:25.07Jenson_ok
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00:25.26Jenson_hey Clyphox
00:25.29dav9600baudright, im off to bed
00:25.41dav9600baudive got clusters to build in the morning and i need to sleep to absorb the alcohol
00:25.43dav9600baudnight all
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00:26.41ResuDaedsorted
00:26.48JensinFuck, this is fucking up
00:26.52JensinI'm going to bed
00:26.54JensinNight
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00:30.29Clyphoxrunning two X's sure helps my FPS..
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00:33.24ResuDaedit does?
00:33.24ResuDaedthe bastards @ reed will only accept cv's in m$ word or text format
00:33.25ResuDaedI have a small feeling running moz & openOffice will kill the computer completley
00:33.27ResuDaedeither that or openOffice just takes forever to load ...
00:34.30ResuDaedopenOffice just purley isn't starting :)
00:36.04ResuDaedping all
00:36.16dankolbhello?
00:37.12ResuDaedevening dan
00:38.10dankolb:)
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00:47.11highburygotta reboot and fsck, bye
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00:48.17ompheI'm shattered.  Off to bed.  G'night all.
00:48.22resudaednight omphe
00:52.18resudaedmode -w
00:52.27resudaedgrr
00:52.47resudaedthats the one
00:52.59zimmlol
00:54.49resudaedcannot find food -- am very annoyed
00:55.17*** mode/#gllug [+o zachary] by ChanServ
00:55.23resudaedand rest of house is almost 10 degrees colder than my room
00:55.56*** mode/#gllug [-o zachary] by ChanServ
00:56.19resudaedjust felt like demostrating power eh zachary
00:56.51zacharyno, just testing things out
00:56.57resudaed:)
00:58.27zacharyresudaed: did anyone give you a response to your question about install fest?
00:58.31resudaednope
00:59.14zimmwhen/where/what is the installfest going to comprise of ?
00:59.40resudaedit's more the what I'm interested in @ moment
00:59.53zacharyhttp://gllug.org.uk/installfest-20030301.html
00:59.54resudaedspecifically how applicable it will be to me
01:00.20zacharyThe lectures are beginner -> intermediate.
01:00.32resudaedmozilla started in a record 4 seconds!!
01:00.44zimmResuDaed w00t
01:01.25zacharyWe have the computer labs available to use monitors, keyboards and mice.
01:01.37zacharyPeople can bring their computers.
01:01.42resudaedas in the 'install' bit of the installfest?
01:01.52zacharyyup
01:01.56resudaedI do't think mine is safe to move
01:02.21zacharyI'm also working on getting some door prizes.
01:02.29resudaeddoor prizes?
01:03.28zacharyI haven't accuired them yet, but I'm trying to get some box sets and a few other items.
01:05.40resudaedsounds decent ... I think I am in the category where I know most of the subject content already ... but am not knowledgable to be of help to anyone
01:06.40resudaedI will probably come down anyway
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01:09.39resudaedwould be a good intro for someone who is wanting to get into linux but not there yet? 9my cousin)
01:09.56resudaedbloody [shift] key
01:12.42zacharyyes, it is a great chance for people to ask questions, see installs, and sytem demonstrations.
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01:15.37resudaedwb Clyphox
01:15.41Clyphoxta
01:15.52resudaedeven at this un-earthly hour?
01:16.05Clyphoxhmm.. true..
01:16.39ClyphoxI need to get some sleep at least.. but I'll prep the Ram and ISA video card and leave it on the TV so you can collect it when I'm at work
01:16.46Clyphox(if u want that is)
01:17.20resudaedare you likley to be *in* work tomorrow?
01:17.21ClyphoxYou can jsut come pick em up now if you want..
01:17.30ClyphoxHave no idea..
01:17.38Clyphoxnot in the morning at least..
01:17.59resudaedok, will come round now quickly ... did you meantion a 10G Fireball?
01:18.47Clyphoxhehe.... We'll talk about it when your here.. not sure to be honest..
01:19.05ClyphoxWill check it out quickly.. got so many HDD's hiding around here..
01:19.21ClyphoxI'll wait for you outside..
01:19.24Clyphoxok?
01:19.49resudaedok ... give me 5 mins before you go out (is pretty cold)
01:19.53Clyphoxk
03:11.35resudaednight all (anyone who is still up:)
08:32.19murblemoin
08:36.20skuggmorning
08:41.35murblebosses Xbox doesn't work since we fitted the mod chip
08:41.55murbleso he brings in 110 mains convertor and kills the circuit with all our workstations on :(
08:42.22skuggouch.
08:42.57skuggthat's such a dilbert's boss thing to do...
08:42.59murblei'm just waiting for the disk with my debian mirror to fsck.
08:44.14skuggouch. you running ext2?
08:44.53murblenope, ext3, you want to check a file system every few years...
08:45.09skuggi see.
08:45.37skuggso you thought you'd use the opportunity then?
08:47.10murblenope, it notices it hasn't been fscked for a long time and does it.
08:47.22skuggoh, that's true.
08:48.20skuggi got that with my parents pc over christmas... "no fsck in 584 days" or something -- it basically hadn't been booted :P
08:48.38skuggmy brother use windows, and didn't even know it had linux installed
08:48.54skuggi put lilo on a floppy to fool him ;P
08:49.29murblehehe, installing mbr can be used as well.
08:49.39murbleas in the one distributed by atleast debian.
08:54.21dank_workMorning
08:57.32dank_workskugg: Best of luck today
09:00.01skuggthanks da
09:00.28skuggdan
09:00.30skugg:P
09:00.31murbleskugg: you need some beer^Wluck today?
09:00.50skuggshouldn't need much luck actually... a little.
09:01.11murblejust read GEB and write somthing based on that, i'm sure your leactures will be impressed.
09:01.29skuggi should be able to hack this exam unless i'm very unlucky with the questions
09:01.39skugggeb?
09:01.43skuggwhat's that?
09:01.47murblehow are uni of westminster supposed to do interdisp coperation and research if they are all spread miles appart?
09:02.48murbleGödel, Escher, Bach - an Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas Hofstadter
09:02.49skuggi don't have a clue. oh, and most of the "it teachers" are actually people from the laid-down physics department...
09:05.09dank_workWell, I'm on my own here at the moment - my boss can't come in today, and one of the other guys on the team is off sick
09:05.17dank_workThe 4th guy doesn't come in until 10
09:05.21skuggheh.
09:05.37skuggoh well. I'm going in to uni now. take care.
09:05.40dank_workAnd then he and I are going off for training this afternoon
09:05.48dank_workgood luck - have a beer afterwards
09:05.55skuggi will
09:06.03dank_workSo there won't be anyone to fix things when they break
09:06.06murbleand before.
09:06.38dank_workAre any beer-serving places open?
09:20.28murbleyour local fridge, i'm sure.
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09:21.20zacharyGood morning
09:21.27stephenmorning
09:23.17dank_workhi both
09:23.25dank_workmurble: Assuming it hasn't been drunk already
09:23.55stephendank_work: that tends to be the problem ;)
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09:28.38dank_workYup
09:29.24stephenor people have stolen your stuff out of the fridge
09:31.57dank_workNot a problem for me
10:30.38dank_workMorning Huhn
10:31.10Huhnmoin moin :)
10:35.46highburyleft my pc running bad-blocks check on a partition last night and its still only 1/5 the way thru
10:36.40zacharyhighbury: How big is the partition?
10:36.49dank_workSlow
10:39.19highburyabout 70Mb
10:40.14dank_workThat's not big
10:41.45highburysorry about 75 Gb
10:41.48highbury:-)
10:42.10dank_workThat's biggert
10:42.12dank_work-t
10:42.48highburyI'm doing a "e2fsck -c -c -C 0 -f -v /dev/hdb2" which tests with non-destructive read-writes
10:45.22dank_workYes, that would be slow
10:58.34highburywhere's the cheapest place to buy utp connectors, and do I need a tool to fit them?
11:06.57dank_workYes, you need a crimping tool
11:07.04dank_workwww.rswww.com will have them
11:10.31zacharyhighbury: when do you plan on doing the wiring?
11:10.57highburytoday, I'd hoped
12:31.21eye69highbury: Maplin has the tool and connectors
12:31.35eye69I've got a tool if you want to borrow it
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12:56.39highburyhmm, really need to do this today :-(
12:57.22highburyWhen leeds check in, I'll check with him, since he lived close. I live in Whetstone
12:57.28eye69No Maplin nearby?
12:57.51highburyWood Green.
12:58.07highburynot too far, I was trying to minimise costs
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13:07.28Axelhi ho
13:10.48dank_workHi
13:43.16skugghi
13:43.54Huhnhi skugg -- how was your exam?
13:45.28dank_trainingwb skugg
13:45.31skuggecxellent
13:45.35skuggexcellent
13:45.45skuggi think it went really well! :)
13:45.54dank_trainingWell done! :)
13:46.07Huhncongrats :)
13:46.24skuggnow have to revise for tomorrow's and thursday's exams... doh! :P
13:46.32zacharyskugg: Usually a good sign! :-)
13:46.34skugggoing to take a bit of break before that tohugh
13:46.43skuggzachary, yeah. should hope so :)
13:47.47SpudUAwayHas anyone got a system on which I could test my external SCSI cd-writer?
13:48.01eye69SpudUAway: I do...bit far away though
13:48.38SpudUAwayeye69: It is a bit, but then I like train rides ;-)
13:48.43eye69Heh
13:48.52zacharySpudUAway: If I had a SCSI card, I would.
13:48.53eye69I'm ~35 mins from Liverpool st
13:49.13eye69Got at least two machines with external SCSI
13:49.30zacharySpudUAway: I liked your idea for putting the leaflets on the website.
13:50.20SpudULikeAh, good.  The real reason is so we can try and advertise the meeting over a much wider area.
13:50.42SpudULikeThe TCR shows are good, but we still must miss lots of people.
13:51.17zacharyWhat do you think about pdf
13:51.25dank_trainingPDF is good
13:51.44SpudULikeOh, yeah, it needs to be in some other format.
13:52.10SpudULikeSo long as everyone who needs to can print it, simply.
13:52.29eye69PDF is supported on all the "major" systems...should be fine
13:53.56SpudULikeWe can produce documents suitable for printing in A4-A6, have them all on the site.  Libraries won't take an A4 notice for their notice boards, an A6 is too small for a shop window, so we need to provide options.
13:54.00zacharybrb fussy baby
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13:54.43SpudULikeRun.
13:56.21SpudULikeRun For_the_hills
13:56.44formiin london there are not that many, I hope you can really run
13:57.15SpudULikeNo, I was just thinking back to my BASIC days.
13:58.26formiaha
13:58.30dank_traininghi
13:59.43SpudULikeWhat are you teaching them Dan?
14:00.59skuggSpudULike, you listening to iron maiden? :)
14:02.15SpudULikeSkugg: No, Brian Perkins.
14:02.22SpudULikeNow the Archers.
14:02.36skugghttp:/printf.net/~stig/music/Iron_Maiden_-_Best_Of_The_Beast_-_04_-_Run_To_The_Hills.ogg
14:02.39skugg:)
14:02.56skugggreat song :)
14:03.15SpudULikeCan you make out the words clearly?
14:03.29formiskugg: obviously
14:03.51skuggSpudULike, yes
14:04.08skuggformi, huh?
14:04.21SpudULikeCool. Can't do that with the Archers, bloody Black country accents.
14:04.31formigreat song from IM
14:05.08skuggformi, ah. right :) agreed.
14:06.04formiit's so sad, I put my mp3 collection on my flatmate's xp machine and he lost all of them
14:06.07Tarragon:-)
14:07.10skuggTarragon, it is.
14:07.10TarragonDid you have a backup? Have you asked SpudULike?
14:07.20skuggTarragon, rsync just finished :)
14:07.26TarragonThat was what the smiley was for.
14:07.57skuggformi, doh.
14:08.51TarragonNot quite JeanMichel Jarre is it?
14:09.34SpudULikeLets be honest, neither is JeanMichel Jarre these days.
14:09.44TarragonOh so true!
14:10.27TarragonMy MP3 collection has a natural limit - Oxygene album plus Aqua and the Venga Boys.
14:11.27skuggTarragon, not quite... try 3 libras in the same dir tho. is a bit more generally applicable music i guess.
14:12.07formiTarragon: I'll send you something from the Cheeky Girls to but with the Venga Boys
14:12.11skuggnot quite venga boys/aqua though...
14:12.14formis/but/put
14:12.25HuhnVenga Boys and Aqua is horrible ;)
14:12.48skuggHuhn, i think so too, but i try to be diplomatic.
14:12.51skugg:)
14:13.01skuggs,is,are,
14:13.09Huhnskugg: I don't even know how to spell dipülo...dings ;)
14:13.12TarragonThe only true music. Anyway Huhn you play the VileDin so obviously you would not know....                         ;-)
14:13.41HuhnTarragon: maybe ;)
14:16.11skuggokay, rsync running ... there'll be some norwegian goodies (english lyrics) in that dir in a bit... the closest i can think of is probably Coldplay.
14:16.57formihi Huhn
14:18.46TarragonEven A doesn't like me playing music these days. Some weird claim that JMJ can be played too much.
14:20.51Huhnhi formi
14:21.39HuhnJMJ is nice, but Venga Boys and those blondies from Aqua.. nah
14:21.48forminice to know there is a mature woman in the channel, not like others...
14:22.13Huhnformi: hey, I'm almost 30.. ;)
14:22.14SpudULikeSoreen had red hair.
14:22.30HuhnSpudULike: that's artificial ;)
14:22.47SpudULikeWHAT! I'm shattered.
14:23.12TarragonChildren like it. Must admit I am starting to like DJ Otzi as well
14:23.21HuhnTarragon: oh my!!!
14:23.38SpudULikeTarragon: S'pose I should give a public apology then.
14:23.50TarragonNo!  Oh Ah.
14:23.59SpudULikeheheheh#
14:24.02HuhnSpudULike: for listening to Aqua? yes, you should.. ;)
14:24.26formiHuhn: I meant in a behavioural way
14:24.49Huhnformi: :)
14:24.49SpudULikeAny group that takes on the might of Mattel and looses is all right in my book!  ;-0
14:26.08SpudULikeTalking about music, of sorts, what is meant by the term MOR?
14:26.26HuhnSpudULike: connection?
14:26.46SpudULikeType of music, I think.
14:27.02Huhnno idea... where have you seen it?
14:27.51Tarragon"Middle Of the Road" music
14:27.57SpudULikeSomething like Moronically Orientated Rock, but not quite.
14:28.09Huhnurghs
14:30.30skuggMOR -- basically music nobody likes or cares enough about to even hate -- it's that insignificant.
14:30.34SpudULikeIs that because the chances of the performers being knocked down is greater?
14:35.25skuggwhy football (soccer) is struggling in the us: http://www.treachery.net/~jdyson/soccer/
14:38.01skuggbest 404 yet :)  --> http://asdf.org/~fatphil/illegal1.html
14:42.32murbleskugg: still alive?
14:43.35formimurble: don't know but he can write
14:43.45murblesitll?
14:44.21formimurble: are you sticking here for a while?
14:48.35skuggmurble, yes
14:48.43skuggi am indeed.
14:49.28murblecool, was it too bad?
14:49.36skuggno, it was okay
14:49.37skuggi'm happy
15:00.20skuggnow going to lie down for a bit. tired...
15:00.23skuggbye
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15:17.07ResuDaedafternoon all
15:17.49TarragonAfternoon
15:18.22ResuDaedTarragon: you wouldn't know how to make mplayer use the frame buffer would you?
15:20.48eye69ResuDaed: Compile in support for it and use the -vo option?
15:21.32ResuDaedeye69: do-able from apt-get?
15:21.39dank_trainingFoo
15:22.32eye69ResuDaed: Yeah...run ./configure on mplayer to see what you're missing related to fbdev, and apt-get that lib and recompile.
15:23.10eye69I never use mplayer debs
15:24.57murbleyep it is nice to build mplayer with all the latest toys.
15:26.43eye69Yep, like the incredibly useful(less?) on-screen console...
15:26.59dank_trainingaalib support! :)
15:27.09eye69There's so many bloody codecs to install that it took me 1.5h last time
15:27.15eye69dank_training: Hehehe, that's nice
15:28.30dank_trainingIt is quite amusing
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15:35.06dank_traininghi zimm
15:35.20zimmhi dank_training
15:36.10dank_trainingToo far - it's about a mile
15:36.42dank_trainingoops - wrong channel
15:37.00zimmlol
15:56.31TarragonWent back to shop over the high temp of CPU. Oh they said 59C is hot you need to buy new Fan and some silver thermal compound. Money paid. Came home. Cracked open case. Pried off AMD supplied fan.
15:56.53TarragonThermal gunk needs Isopropyl2ol (the CD cleaner we mentioned a few days ago). 3 chemists said yes but would need to order it. Found a video head cleaner that would do. Cleaned gunk. New super fan attached.
15:57.11zimmand ?
15:57.11TarragonTemp after five hours is 58C. Phoned AMD. Oh they said lets check... Thats low it says here 60-70. Checked web - 60-65. Max temp 95C!!
15:57.15zimmany cooler ?
15:57.26zimmahh
15:57.35Tarragon1 degree cooler - Ł20
15:57.40zimmfscker
15:57.49zimmwhat cpu is it ?
15:58.02TarragonXP2000
15:58.23zimmhmm , i be happy with it at around 60' C
15:58.40zimmmy athlon 650 runs at around 50 ish
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16:27.36Tarragonwb
16:27.38jensonHey guys
16:27.57TarragonYou are early today
16:28.03jensonhey Tarragon
16:30.26Huhnhi jenson
16:31.00jensonHi Huhn
16:31.25Huhnhow are you today?
16:32.03jensonI'm alright thanks, a little annoyed at some rumours that are going around about me
16:32.16Huhnrumours at school?
16:32.29jensonYeah
16:34.07Huhnsorry to hear :(
16:34.42jensonIt doesn't matter, just proves there is particular people I can't trust.
16:35.10jensonAnd I don't think I'll ever go back to school because there is a particular person who I can't face.
16:35.25dank_trainingWouldn't he be gone next year?
16:35.57jensonIt's the girl I can't face, and yeah she will.
16:36.10murblejenson: ia ssume you hvae gcse etc? so if you want to go to uni you could go on a foundation course for a year, then enter a normal program.
16:36.12dank_trainingSo there's no problem about that
16:36.24murble(I think essex have foundation courses for CS)
16:36.41TarragonIs it really worth ending your education because of one idiot?
16:36.55murbleI'm not sure which colleges they use for their courses though.
16:37.07jensonYeah Tarragon coz I was the idiot in the first place.
16:37.18murbleTarragon: if you do a foundation course you can then do a degree, normally you don't need any formal qualifications to enter a foundation course.
16:37.34jensonI should have known better, but I obviously dfdidn't
16:38.02Huhnjenson: we all make mistakes, but your education is more important than stupid ppl, don't you think?
16:38.32jensonNo-one is as stupid as me Huhn
16:38.45dank_trainingYou're not stupid
16:41.35TarragonWe think you are fine, a little mad perhaps, but fine.
16:42.39Tarragonmurble: And did it harm you? No. Lots of people don't.
16:42.58murbleno, I just went to university and did a degree.
16:43.11murblewasted 4 or 5 years
16:43.19murble+ 2 for a-levels
16:43.34murblealthough i didn't because i played with the internet and stuff
16:43.40TarragonWhat all that drinking time.
16:44.12murbleI didn't hvae money to drink much.
16:44.39murbledo they reliease what dammage it will do to the drinks industry not give students mainance grants?
16:45.08TarragonAh - Biochemistry is a wonderful thing. Free beer!
16:56.18jensonwb formI
16:56.32formIhi jenson
17:09.14dank_trainingJenson says to pass on apologies - their server crashed, so she's going home and will be back later
17:10.20TarragonIs she feeling any better?
17:10.32dank_trainingI don't know. I don't think so, yet.
17:10.39Tarragon:-(
17:11.16dank_trainingShe'll probably be better fairly soon
17:11.34dank_trainingRight. Hometime for me
17:11.43dank_trainingSee you later
17:11.52TarragonBye
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17:21.40Tarragonwb
17:42.07HuhnHAIEnice evening all
17:42.10HuhnHAIEoff to the ice hockey game..
18:00.41murblegood luck HAIE
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18:36.29ompheEvening everyone!
18:37.29formIhi omphe
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18:55.25SpudUAwaySee, you open the minibar and the power goes.
18:55.41dankolbHi
18:56.21formIwell you don't need to see to be able to drink
18:57.46dankolbAs long as you know where your drink is, and where your mouth is
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19:01.18formIthat obviously depends on how much you managed before the lights went off
19:14.45ResuDaedI've lost my phone :(
19:15.03dankolbAww
19:15.06dankolbWhere did you leave it?
19:15.20ResuDaedall i know is I heard the battery die in my room somewhere
19:15.26ResuDaed(not a good sign)
19:16.43dankolbAh. So you can't even phone up to see where it is :)
19:16.50dankolbBut it's in your room somewhere?
19:17.00ResuDaedthat doesn't really narrow it down
19:17.11dankolbWell, it means it's not in a pub or anything
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19:17.17mazogshi all
19:17.17dankolbhi mazogs
19:17.30ResuDaedtrue ... but still ... I been looking for the past hour
19:18.11dankolbyou'll find it eventually - you could take the opportunity to tidy your room ;-)
19:18.36ResuDaedgrr ... I know ... but time is an issue
19:18.59dankolbneed to call someone?
19:19.08ResuDaedI have to catch the 22.49 train (station is half an hours walk at least)
19:19.23ResuDaedand it needs to be charged
19:19.23dankolbThat's another 3 hours
19:19.26dankolbah
19:19.31ResuDaedit takes 2.5 hours to charge
19:19.35dankolbhm
19:19.44dankolbSo why are you IRCing and not looking for it?
19:19.51ResuDaedI am looking around my desk
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19:33.29zacharyGood evening
19:36.32dankolbhi
19:37.36mazogshello
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19:46.43ClyphoxHi all
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20:07.19dankolbTime for food!
20:08.58formIi have had a good laugh a moment ago
20:09.09formIthey are putting one of the bond movies
20:10.17formIhe's in bilbao, and when the basque autonomic police come for him they shout with a *MEXICAN* accent
20:14.44skuggso? I distinctly remember the "norwegian" captain in one X-files episode speaking SWEDISH. that's not just a different dialect, but a whole different language.
20:15.00skuggs,dialect,accent,
20:15.10formIwell they actually went to bilbao
20:16.05formIbut now that i think about it the guys should be shouting in vasco
20:17.18formImy preferite one is the A Team, going escaping from the barcelona airport, in one of those fedex vans, they cross the desert
20:17.54formIand end up in a red barn
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20:18.38JensonEvening giys
20:18.43Jensons/giys/guy
20:18.46Jensons
20:18.46mazogshi
20:18.50formIthe police looked like Castro in military gear, at least no bull turned up
20:19.31formIhi jenson
20:19.44JensonHey formI, how are you?
20:20.20Jensonhey mazogs, how are you?
20:20.50formInot bad
20:20.59mazogsfine thanks! and you?
20:20.59Jenson:)
20:21.13JensonYeah I'm sort of alright mazogs
20:21.15Jensonty
20:21.52mazogsyw
20:26.02skugghi jenson
20:26.14Jensonheya skugg, how you doing?
20:26.25skuggokay
20:26.33JensonYou never did give me that link to that picture again that you were going to.
20:26.49skuggtired, even though i slept almost three hours not long ago
20:26.56JensonAh, have fun formI
20:27.03skuggJenson, ah. http://brautaset.org/pics/stig.png
20:27.13JensonI'm tired, I went to sleep at 2am last night and got up at 7:30
20:27.23Jensonty skugg
20:29.10skuggbye
20:29.22Jensoncya later then skugg
20:29.37skuggyeah.
20:31.26formIJenson: I did those same hours, even tough I didn't go to sleep on sunday night
20:31.43JensonformI: That was a little silly mate.
20:34.04formIit depends, I enjoyed it
20:35.44JensonYeah, I bet you aren't enjoying being tired though.
20:37.53formII haven't said I was tired
20:38.09JensonHow can you not be tired?
20:38.13TarragonSleep - Ha for wimps!
20:39.01TarragonMaybe its the chocolate and Limoncello
20:40.09dankolbGah
20:40.20formIYerba Mate is best
20:40.52JensonTarragon: I'm never challenging you to a contest of who can go without sleep the longest.
20:41.21TarragonI didn't say I like it
20:41.47skuggthat was *painful*
20:41.49Tarragon48hours - Come to Fosdem!
20:41.56JensonI did 36 hours once
20:42.00skuggTarragon, i am coming! :P
20:42.30Tarragon:-)
20:42.52skuggif i just get someone that know a bit more about this ordering stuff... I've been trying to reach john hearns on the phone, but i may have the wrong number...
20:43.10skuggme neither. neither hotel
20:43.16dankolbMe neither
20:44.03mazogshere i am again
20:44.08TarragonHI
20:44.17Jensonwb mazogs
20:44.23mazogshi Tarragon
20:44.28mazogsty Jenson
20:44.41JensonformI: How did you stay awake that long?
20:44.45TarragonJust fixating a Knoppix CD
20:45.26formIJenson: just couldn't sleep, it used to happen to me when a young
20:46.15JensonformI: That used to happen to me aswell, but not like that. I'd just have to chat until about 4am until i could sleep, it was related to panic attacks
20:46.39formIJenson: I was called the mad/black sheep of the place, spending the nights wondering around the woods
20:47.11JensonYeah well formI, being a girl, I don't wander about putting myself in danger.
20:47.34formII suppose the buildup of the extra adrenaline was a bit addictive
20:48.08JensonYeah that is fun, but that's what playing Quake 2 in the dark with surround sound is for.
20:48.20formIbelieve me the woods are not a place were you find ppl at night
20:48.37JensonNot sane people anyway
20:48.37dankolbDoes my head in
20:48.57JensonI get headaches if I use computers with any bright light, esp with games
20:49.09dankolbHm
20:49.12dankolbFair enough
20:49.13formIthe monitor trying to suck your head? dankolb
20:49.23dankolbYup :)
20:49.41JensonDamn, I've gotta go shopping tomorrow, and I don't even want to.
20:49.53dankolbheh
20:50.48JensonNevermind, I can look for cool thsirts in ACE
20:51.17skuggJenson, is that something you're not used to? I don't remember last time I _wanted_ to go shopping... it's always a drag.
20:52.01Jensonskugg: I like shopping, I'm a girl, I suppose it's an excuse for new make-up and looking at cuddly valentines bears that are really stupid
20:52.06dankolb:)
20:52.48skuggfsck. is that thing coming up again.
20:52.49Jensondankolb: I saw a cute one that send 'Horny' today lol by the furry handcuffs
20:52.49formIdankolb: the white one?
20:53.01dankolbformI: Nope. The black one
20:53.39JensonI always seem to be single
20:53.42formIyeah, i don't like the bleached one
20:53.51murblewhy? can't you just treat it like any other day and ignore it?
20:53.59ResuDaedI am looking around my desk                   valentines is so much cheaper when your single
20:54.11dankolbmurble: Because everywhere you're look, it's being thrown at you
20:54.15JensonResuDaed: Damn right!
20:55.10JensonI'd like it, if any of the crap was worth having
20:55.15ResuDaedlol
20:55.19Jensonie like the proper furry handcuffs
20:55.22dankolb:)
20:55.39ResuDaedrather you than me dankolb
20:55.41ResuDaed:)
20:55.42JensonOr spray on latex
20:55.54dankolbWhat? With furry handcuffs, ResuDaed?
20:56.05JensonOr some of those damn scary things that are evidently underwear lol
20:56.19ResuDaeddon't be fooled by the fur ... they are still bloody painful
20:56.25dankolbExperience?
20:56.34ResuDaed(especially the way Jenson puts them on)
20:56.52dankolb:)
20:56.53ResuDaed(admitidly yes ... for a joke though)
20:57.01ResuDaednot with Jenson though
20:57.04dankolbI know
20:57.47ResuDaedone of my ex g/fs thought'd be a good method of revenge after the choclate indcident
20:58.10JensonChocolate incident?
20:58.22dankolbYou're not fat
20:58.46Jensondankolb: No, but I'm lazy and unfit
20:58.51dankolbSo am I
20:59.00ResuDaedwas actually before she became my gf, 3 of us had her, some rope, a box of minature heros and a radiator
20:59.26JensonI see ResuDaed, and how old were you when this happened?
20:59.31ResuDaedbloody messy radiator by the time we finished
20:59.34ResuDaed(16)
20:59.53ResuDaedfirst time round @ college
21:00.09JensonNo-one has ever tied me up and covered me in chocolate lol
21:00.13dankolb:)
21:00.51ResuDaedwe left her there for when her mother came in ... we were downstairs watching TV ... her mother asked where she was and we told her she was in her room
21:01.04ResuDaedjust aswel her mother had a sense of humour
21:01.06Jensonlol
21:01.15ResuDaedstill tied down
21:01.19JensonTied up naked and covered in chocolate?
21:01.30ResuDaednot quite naked ... underwear
21:01.40Jensonlol you crazy man!
21:01.49ResuDaed(men - there were 3 of us)
21:01.55JensonEven worse....
21:02.08ResuDaedhad been @ college all day and were therefore quite drunk
21:02.26dankolb:)
21:02.28dankolbSure
21:02.35Jenson:)
21:02.45JensonWell I don't mind how many guy/girls....whatever
21:03.04murbledank: you need to run arround london more oftern.
21:03.08dankolb(the sure was an agreement, actually)
21:03.11ResuDaedit actually took the 3 of us to tie her down
21:03.12dankolbmurble: I need to get fit
21:03.14murblenext time start from livepoolstreet or somthing.
21:03.23dankolbMy legs were hurting for two days afterwards
21:03.32murblein 30 minutes.
21:03.34murbleshould be dooable.
21:03.47JensonResuDaed: Yeah, but I might just do it through choice....
21:04.20ResuDaedI think she was enjoying herself aftyer the initial struggles
21:04.35ResuDaed(the point at which she realised she wasn't going to escape)
21:04.36JensonResuDaed: Yeah I should think so, sounds fun
21:04.58ResuDaedanyway ... that was 2 years ago ... I have grown up a lot since then
21:05.00murblewell if they are going to do lug paintball people will have to get fit.
21:05.12ResuDaed(I am much worse now)
21:05.13dankolbGeeks? Fit?
21:05.20Jensonlol me too ResuDaed
21:06.54dankolbWhy? You're fine as you are
21:07.12Jensondankolb: I eat crap food.
21:07.22dankolbJenson: So do I
21:08.23dankolbwb
21:08.37JensonHad to look for my keys, builder needs them tomorrow
21:08.44dankolbAh
21:09.08SpudULikeJenson: For the handcuffs?
21:09.12Jensondankolb: I have to eat less aswell, I used to be able to eat so much less.
21:09.15ResuDaedI wish I could find things in 1min5
21:09.22JensonSpudULike: I think my exboy/f has the handcuff keys
21:09.26formi_gone<PROTECTED>
21:09.28JensonOr they are in my old wallet
21:09.31dankolbJenson: You're thin enough as it is
21:09.40dankolbJenson: You don't need to lose any weight
21:09.58JensonNo dankolb I don't, but I do need to eat better, lost just a little maybe
21:10.11dankolbI need to eat better, too
21:10.38ResuDaedam booking an appointment with doctor to work out how/why
21:10.42JensonResuDaed: I seem to have put weight on again, must stop eating so much
21:11.04dankolbJenson: You are not fat. If you get > 60kg, then you'll be fat
21:11.28ResuDaed60kg = ? stone?
21:12.15JensonNo highbury I don't I need to get fit.
21:12.32highburywhat sports do you do?
21:12.34dankolbWho here, who met Jenson on Saturday, thinks she's fat?
21:12.35ResuDaedI need approx another stone, maybe 2
21:12.45highburyibot convert 60kg to stones
21:12.45skugguh, what's the abbreviation for stone?
21:12.47dankolbResuDaed: About 9ish
21:12.48ResuDaedI saw pics and thought opposite actually
21:12.57highburyibot convert 60kg to lb
21:12.57skuggi see.
21:13.06Jensonhighbury: Does Quake 3 Arena and DooM count as sport?
21:13.08skuggibot is useful then? :)
21:13.09skugg: are you smoking crack?
21:13.19dankolbExactly.
21:13.20skuggno :P
21:13.24dankolbNo one thinks you're fat, Jenson
21:13.28highbury14lb == 1Stone
21:13.50ResuDaedso I weight 130lb?
21:13.52ResuDaedish
21:13.58ResuDaed(am just over 9 stone)
21:13.59JensonI'm about 108lb I think
21:14.05ResuDaedscary numbers
21:14.10dankolbibot convert 108lb to kg
21:14.25dankolbWell, you're light, anyway, Jenson
21:14.30skugghey! I read somewhere you're supposed to be on the metric system...
21:14.42skuggfor the record, I'm about 80kg :P
21:14.48ResuDaedI used to weigh 11 stone (that was when i called myself remotley healthy)
21:15.15ResuDaedibot convert 11 stone to kg
21:15.18dankolbI'm about 84
21:15.28ResuDaedthat much I should weigh
21:15.35JensonI played badmington in year 7, I was shit, but it was exercise
21:15.43dankolbBadminton can be fun
21:15.49skuggquite fit back then
21:16.02JensonI always wanted to do karate
21:16.19JensonKick boxinjg might be nice
21:16.33mazogsJenson: judo is better
21:16.36JensonI think I'm too light for stuff like thaty though
21:16.42skugghaven't done any of those, but jiu jitsu and capoeira are cool ;P
21:16.42dankolbYeah
21:16.59highburyexactly jenson, you need to bulk up!
21:17.00dankolbI don't think I should be able to pick you up so easily
21:17.03Jensonmazogs: My mate tried to teach me judo when I was young, troiuble was I learnt the blocks and attacks better than she did
21:17.13Jensondankolb: Don't complain
21:17.38skuggJenson, i see no trouble in that. maybe your friend did...
21:17.53ResuDaedwho would be willing to donate a stone?
21:17.57JensonI will ResuDaed
21:18.01Jensonwb formi
21:18.02ResuDaedother than Jenson
21:18.04dankolbJenson: Thanks :) You like it, then?
21:18.16JensonYeah dankolb
21:18.22dankolbOh good :)
21:18.28ResuDaedI used to be 75ish
21:18.40skuggsomehow i think formi with 85kg sounds a bit scary.
21:18.47skugg87 even
21:19.04JensonAnd how tall are you formi
21:19.17formiJenson: about 180cm
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21:19.22ResuDaedg2g
21:19.28mazogsooops1
21:19.56skuggformi, uh? i thought you were lower than me... am i so wrong?
21:19.57dankolbErm
21:19.59dankolbUse ibot
21:20.01resudaed_yawanight all
21:20.04dankolbnight resudaed_yawa
21:20.14JensonDoes ibot do BMI
21:20.18skuggdoes ibot do BMI translations too?
21:20.18JensonI know mine anyway
21:20.21dankolbSure, if you know the equation
21:20.26JensonYou not coming back resudaed_yawa?
21:20.34dankolbWeight / (height^2) in metric units
21:20.46skuggah.
21:20.50JensonYeah dankolb but the MSN one does imp units too
21:21.03dankolbSo use the conversions
21:21.07dankolb1lb = 454g
21:21.12dankolb1st = 14lb
21:21.25Jensondankolb: I know
21:21.33dankolbNot difficult :)
21:22.18formiskugg: I would say you are a little bit shorter than me
21:22.36formiskugg: 2-5 cm
21:22.38JensonEvidently I need 1620 calories a day to maintain my current wait.
21:22.41skuggformi, it would seem so, as i am 177 :)
21:22.45Jensonformi: You are really tall.
21:22.56Jensons/wait/weight
21:23.08JensonThe average calorie intake for a girl should be 2000
21:23.14formiJenson: tarragon and eye69 are tall
21:23.17dankolbSo you're underweight
21:23.18skuggJenson, you didn't meet steve harker on saturday, did you ;)
21:23.42dankolbibot calc 49/(156*156)
21:23.43dankolb: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
21:23.48dankolbGagh
21:23.51formiskugg: I thought steve was back in AUS
21:24.14skuggformi, in NZ you mean? that's correct.
21:24.27skuggi forgot.
21:24.29JensonSee ya then resudaed_yawa
21:24.39formisomewhere in the other side of the planet
21:24.58formiI tend to swap ozzies and kiwis
21:25.36JensonAussies......I don't want to think about lots of Ozzy Osbournes
21:25.57formicome on Ozzy is a nice chap
21:26.13skugghoh,
21:26.14dankolbAussie Osbourne?
21:26.14JensonI know
21:26.20Jensonbut 1 is enough
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21:30.24dankolbUnfortunately, I seem to watch it creeping up
21:30.57JensonWell dankolb Bee says I gotta take you clubbing with her.
21:31.28murbleJenson: how can you go clubbing if you can't go by train?
21:31.38murbles/go/get away with/
21:32.03dankolbJenson: That won't happen for some time yet.
21:32.18Jensonmurble: I don't think I wanna go clubbing, just getting on a dancefloor with lots of hot, drunk people sounds fun
21:33.34dankolbHm
21:33.44dankolbIf you don't want to go, don't go
21:34.22JensonBut alcohol and dancing....
21:34.47dankolb....leads to what, Jenson?
21:35.29JensonHangovers dankolb
21:35.54stephennot if you restrain your drinking
21:36.30dankolbNo
21:36.30Jensonformi: Do you get anything :P
21:36.46dankolbJenson: You do not need to diet
21:37.53Jensonhttp://www.handbag.com/healthfit/detox2/
21:38.15murbleand if it is some crap made up by people trying to sell magazines, and food suppliments
21:38.30dankolbit is
21:38.36JensonAll diets are murble
21:38.48dankolbIt's a load of crap
21:40.08dankolbAll these diets are nothing compared to just eating decently and having some exercise
21:41.01Jensondankolb: Is chococalte readybrek, bagel, mcdonalds, orange juice, red bull, cauliflower cheese and 2 bars of chocolte good eating
21:41.14dankolbIt is to me :)
21:41.14JensonMind you the hill one has to walk up to get to mcdonalds is damn lethal
21:42.36skuggno such thing ;P
21:42.36JensonWhat does Convalescing mean Dan?
21:42.43skuggthey're barely dents in the road
21:42.48dankolbWrithing
21:42.49Jensonskugg: Yeah and I'm in the flattest part of England
21:43.03dankolbNo
21:43.06dankolbThat's wrong
21:43.08dankolbI'm wrong
21:43.12dankolbI'm a muppet
21:43.36JensonIt means recovering from illness
21:43.42skuggconvalesce:   To recover health and strength gradually, after sickness or
21:43.43skugg<PROTECTED>
21:43.50skuggfrom gcide
21:43.54JensonWell I aint doing that so i can safely do detox if i want
21:44.06dankolbI don't think it's worth doing it
21:44.10dankolbYou really don't need it, anyway
21:44.19JensonOh I know that, I should just eat less
21:44.37dankolbNeither that
21:45.24dankolbYou're fine as you are
21:50.29mazogsi'll say somthing but i don't know what
21:50.35dankolbAh
21:50.38mazogshappy new year! :-)
21:50.43dankolbIndeed!
21:50.45dankolbTo you too :)
21:50.49mazogsty
21:51.48dankolbibot convert 8 stone to kg
21:54.42agkibot what do you mean by "approximately"?
21:54.43agk: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
22:02.11skugghave /you/ hardened your servers today? --> http://www.kevinmitnick.com/
22:02.15skugg=D
22:16.23stephenlol
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22:23.52murbledo people rate PERC 3 dell raid controllers under linux?
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22:28.08Jensonwb formi
22:29.00dankolbmurble: rate?
22:31.48stephenmurble: has nothing to do with linux, but I remember an article in PcPro slating them for recovery (but it could have been PERC 2, can't remember)  they'd try and rebuild an array after a disk loss and they'd lose *all* the data
22:32.07stephenthey've probably improved though
22:32.33murbleI rember in the distance past them being a reason i couldn't install inux on a box and have it useable.
22:32.53murbleOh and i have a preduice against dell servers
22:33.15murbleand being on the phone to shannon for hours when i already know the motherboard was dead.
22:34.54murbleoh that will be fun, lets spin up all the disks twice, then wait for the scsi drivers to do the same.
22:35.06dankolbEven their IDE systems
22:35.15dankolb1m30s for a PE350 from power-on to LILO boot
22:35.19murblebut isn't that true of most PC server grade hardware
22:35.25murbleeek.
22:35.37JensonIt takes my computer about 4 mins to boot fully I think
22:35.59dankolbmurble: No. I'm sure my 486/66 Netware server boots faster (Compaq Proliant)
22:38.38murblemy compaq prliant 200 boots quite quickly ( in under 40 seconds)
22:38.44dankolbNice
22:38.54murbleand that is with smart raid 2
22:38.59murbleinfact it is klepto, this machine.
22:39.12murbleI'd much rather got for compaq, or sun.
22:52.02formimurble do you want another proliant? i have one collecting dust
22:52.12formip120 i think it was
22:52.35formiit's the eisa version tough
22:55.46dankolbnight
22:56.53JensonHe's actually going to get some sleep like he said was a good idea, I'm impressed
22:57.24dankolbYeah. Some people actually manage
22:58.04Jenson:)
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23:03.25dankolbhi omphe
23:03.31Jensonhey omphe
23:03.36ompheHey guys.
23:04.46ompheSorry, hello fellow unix derivative using homo sapien units.
23:04.56ompheAnd I'm not calling her a fellow!
23:05.04JensonI say guys as a generic statement
23:05.17Jensonomphe: Just ignore my boyfriend...he's being immature :P
23:05.30dankolbAnd hence so is OS X
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23:06.26ShermozleHi folks.
23:06.30ShermozleHave a tricky question for you.
23:06.31Jensonhey Shermozle
23:06.39JensonGo for it
23:06.40omphe'lo Shermozle
23:06.50dankolbHi Shermozle
23:06.58Jensondankolb will answer it for you.
23:06.58ShermozleHow do I change the modified date on a file to something in the past?
23:07.07ShermozleSo simple it's really hard to find how you do it!
23:07.11dankolbLook at 'touch'
23:07.12dankolb(man touch)
23:07.28ompheCheating on your homework Shermozle?
23:07.28ShermozleOh shit.  you're right!
23:07.40dankolbBow down! :)
23:07.54Shermozleomphe: Porting my old blog entries to http://www.raelity.org/apps/blosxom/
23:08.23dankolbYou're just jealous
23:09.06dankolb:)
23:09.18Jenson:D
23:09.36ShermozleWhadaya know, it works!
23:10.09ShermozleNow does rsync preserve the stamp?
23:10.25JensonOf course it works, he's an Oxford graduate.....
23:10.43dankolbShermozle: Probably, if you give it the right option
23:11.48dankolbrsync -t
23:11.51dankolb(preserve times)
23:13.44ShermozleWahey, it works
23:13.50Jenson:)
23:13.52ShermozleBlosxom rocks!
23:14.00ShermozleAt last, a free, simple, sensibly written blogger in Perl.
23:14.02Shermozle(that works)
23:14.19dankolb:)
23:14.29dankolbRemember man pages are good
23:14.33dankolbAlways read the man pages :)
23:14.49Jensonlol
23:14.59JensonOr more, how to know the name of the manpage she wants
23:15.09ShermozleWell, the rsync question was more rhetorical.
23:15.23ShermozleJenson: Yeah, who woulda guessed that touch allowed that option?
23:15.31skuggwas thinking of putting up an email-to-blog gateway...
23:16.03skuggsending email to blog@mydomain.org and have it turn up in the blog. that would save me lots of trouble.
23:16.15Jensonty dankolb
23:17.05Shermozleskugg: There are a few of them.
23:17.06ompheskugg: how would you authenticate to prevent abuse?
23:17.23Shermozle(including one for blosxom
23:18.22skuggomphe, X-my-password: supersecret :)
23:18.51skuggomphe, if trouble appeared I'd just have to shut it down.
23:19.07skuggoh well. going to bed now. have to be early up...
23:19.14JensonNight skugg
23:19.15skuggexam tomorrow at 9...
23:19.17skugg:)
23:19.19JensonGood luck
23:19.24ompheG'night skugg.
23:20.11dankolbnight skugg
23:20.13dankolbGood luck
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23:25.22JensonStaying this time omphe?
23:25.42ompheSorry, having a bit of difficulty learning irc.
23:25.44dankolb:)
23:26.18omphetyping names without a channel really sucks!
23:26.30Jensonomphe: http://www.newircusers.com/java/ircmds.html
23:27.42JensonDamn it seems the links changed
23:28.42Jensonhttp://www.newircusers.com/ircmds.html
23:29.16ompheJenson: cheers.
23:29.40ShermozleHmmm, only one annoying thing about blosxom.  It sticks in a date without using a token in the template for it...
23:33.57JensonWell people, time for bed
23:34.01JensonMay be here tomorrow
23:34.06JensonIf not, see ya Thrusday
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23:40.40dankolbhello, slow person
23:44.44dav9600baudhi dan
23:44.46dav9600baudhows it going?
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23:46.07dankolbGood
23:46.12dankolbI'm just about to go to sleep
23:46.32dankolbyou?
23:46.36dav9600baudnoty bad
23:46.42dav9600baudjust at st andrews this week
23:46.44dav9600baudnot been too bad
23:46.50dav9600baudits just a tad dull, wet windy and boring up here
23:46.52dankolbCool
23:46.56dankolbAh well
23:47.05dav9600baudnothing but american students trying to find a husband, who just happens to have royal connections
23:47.06dankolbThat's St. Andrews for you ;-)
23:47.19dav9600baudand they all stay on campus
23:47.24dav9600baudits erm quaint
23:47.27dav9600baudquite a nice break from london though
23:47.37dankolbMost places are, unless they're big cities
23:49.56dav9600baudyeah
23:49.59dav9600baudits nice up here though,
23:50.05dav9600baudnot going to abercdeen though
23:50.10dankolbYeah, Scotland is a nice place
23:50.20dankolbAnyway, I have to sleep
23:50.21dav9600baudcluster hasnt been built, our professional services manager, hasnt pulled his finger out of his arse and sorted it out
23:50.21dankolb'night
23:50.26dankolbd'oh
23:50.31dav9600baudso no camera trips for me
23:50.33dankolbAww
23:50.34dav9600baudok have a good sleep !
23:50.40dankolbHave fun in the land of slow connections, then
23:51.04ompheNight dankolb.
23:51.30dav9600baudheh, its bringing me back to my roots
23:59.14ompheTime for bed.  Good night all.
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