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00:00.19ResuDaedyes
00:00.34zimmas root (obviously) ,
00:00.35ResuDaedglx has compiled ... just not kernel
00:00.39ResuDaedobviously
00:00.41zimmhmm ..
00:00.55zimmwhats the full path to the file it cant fond /
00:01.00cupisResuDaed: or apt-get install nvidia.* and read the docs in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-(glx|kernel)-src
00:01.01zimms fond/find
00:01.30ResuDaedit just says linux/modversions.h
00:02.09ResuDaed(no way can be a relative path)
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00:55.21ResuDaednight all
00:55.25highburytar doesn't need - in front of flags, because its such an old command
00:56.05highburyand like dd has weird syntax, tar now has more common options, dd still has old syntax
00:57.28ResuBitchnight night all
00:58.05highburynight
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08:58.51zacharygood morning
09:02.55mazogshi zachary
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10:47.20zacharybbl
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11:55.05ompheMorning
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12:34.19Huhnhiho
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13:46.05Jensonhey davilion
13:46.09davilionhello
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13:51.06davilionhows it going Jenson?
13:51.16Jensonhey SpudUAway
13:51.24JensonAlright thanks davilion, how are you?
13:51.45SpudUAwayHi guys.
13:52.01davilionim good thanks Jenson
13:52.10SpudUAwayJenson: You do know that I think of you as one of the guys.
13:52.59JensonThat's cool SpudUAway, guys is a generic term for people by my standards
13:59.53SpudUAwayOK, I'm off to have a look see at what's available at the TCR fairs.  I need a cheap CDRW, my SCSI one seems to have died.
14:02.34eye69SpudUAway: Good luck
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14:55.26Clyphoxre
15:46.24*** join/#gllug dankolb (~dankolb@spookhive.demon.co.uk)
15:46.52dankolbAfternoon
15:47.30*** join/#gllug Jenson (Jenson@host213-1-198-20.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
15:47.34dankolbHi J
15:47.38Jensoney Dan
15:47.44JensonHey even
15:47.55dankolb:)
15:57.31ClyphoxHi all
15:57.48dankolbHi Clyphox
15:57.48JensonHeya Clyphox
15:58.15dankolbI can't find a way of getting starkfamily.net to CNAME to duck.bsd.st
15:58.24ClyphoxHmm..
15:58.30Clyphoxone moment..
16:00.07*** join/#gllug omphe (~omphe@keiko.demon.co.uk)
16:00.15Jensonhey omhpe
16:00.19ompheAfternoon everyone
16:00.20dankolbhi omphe
16:00.25Jensonomphe even
16:01.18ClyphoxHi omphe
16:01.56Clyphoxdankolb: weird.. www.starkfamily.net works but without the www its a porn site!
16:02.13dankolbheh
16:03.46Clyphoxdankolb : any idea why?
16:03.52dankolbYes
16:03.55JensonMy homepage Clyphox if you don't already know is at http://www.faithsplace.tk
16:04.09Clyphoxk
16:04.56ClyphoxJenson : Mine seems to be a porn site atm hehe
16:05.01dankolbHeh.
16:05.14dankolbIt's the Apache configuration
16:05.19Jensonlol Clyphox I'm on yours and not the porn lol
16:05.25Clyphoxawe...
16:05.31Clyphoxer.. good :)
16:05.36Clyphox(j/k)
16:05.40Jenson:)
16:06.29ClyphoxJenson : check your html btw.. seems to want to point to my C: for the title image..
16:06.43Clyphox(for the record I have NO C:)
16:06.51JensonFucking hell I fixed that
16:06.53Jensontwice
16:06.56JensonShit
16:07.01JensonLemme check it
16:07.11Clyphoxeek.. frames..
16:07.31Clyphox<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage Express 2.0">
16:07.42Clyphoxexplains alot :(
16:07.53JensonGrrr I know
16:07.59JensonI gotta delete that tag!
16:08.11ClyphoxTry the nutscrape one if you want something easy(ish)
16:08.15Clyphoxhehe
16:08.18Clyphoxer.. netscape..
16:08.24Clyphoxor even better mozilla
16:08.30JensonI have Moz
16:09.04ClyphoxIts not quite as good as mcedit but it works hehe
16:09.09dankolbApache is set up to use virtualhosts on 64.246.28.105
16:10.22JensonRight ok, not it should be ok
16:10.26Jensons/not/now
16:10.46dankolbClyphox: How often does your IP address change?
16:11.05JensonExcept I've done it wrong somehow
16:11.09JensonFucking hell
16:11.42Clyphoxdankolb: I'm not entirely sure.. I'm guessing 2-4 times a month..
16:11.48dankolbHm
16:11.48Clyphoxchecking logs...
16:12.03ClyphoxSet up a script to monitor it but never checked it to be honest...
16:13.07Clyphoxdankolb: stilla  porn site btw..
16:13.20dankolbYeah? Well, I haven't changed anything
16:13.30dankolbAnd it shouldn't be a porn site, just a dialer site
16:13.40JensonOK now I have fixed it.
16:14.08omphedankolb; not a particularly nice porn site either
16:14.15dankolbIt ain't mine
16:14.32ompheNot much to miss
16:14.45Clyphoxdamnit.. fine time for cron to have died.. my script hasn't been logging.. so I don't have a clue..
16:15.02Jensonewww omphe I see what you mean
16:15.16ClyphoxI found most of the links work..
16:15.26ompheMust be out of Kings Cross
16:15.29Clyphox(not like I checked or anything...)
16:15.37dankolbJenson: Eh?
16:16.01Clyphoxdankolb : how about I just use MX for you. (after all its all I need)
16:16.38ClyphoxJenson : its working now yup..
16:16.51JensonClyphox: What broweser you using?
16:16.53dankolbClyphox: Sure - you can do that
16:17.11ClyphoxJenson : Mozilla and orphoenix
16:17.21Clyphoxer "or phoenix"
16:18.15dankolbClyphox: If you just want me to host mail, that's fine by me
16:19.04Clyphoxdankolb : If your friend is up for it and can put himself over as a company it might be possible he can get some work through us for all our customers with uk2 mx problems..
16:19.11dankolbCool :)
16:19.41Clyphoxdankolb : thing is we might not be able to charge the customers as we registered their domains for them via uk2 ourselves..
16:19.42dankolbBack at some point later
16:19.53dankolbWe'll manage to sort something out :)
16:21.21ompheanyone know .htaccess files
16:21.38JensonNope
16:21.46ClyphoxI did once.. there are thousands of frontends to make them easily..
16:22.28ompheWriting is straightforward.  Are they commonplace to use?
16:22.38ompheie. on my demon account?
16:22.52JensonWell I ought to go and get on with the tidying up I was doing
16:22.57JensonSee ya later guys.
16:22.59ClyphoxDepends how the site it done. Its better to use php for example if thats how the site is done..
16:23.04Clyphoxcya..
16:23.11JensonBye Clyphox
16:23.12ompheJenson: scared you off?
16:23.14ompheSee you.
16:23.23Jensonomphe: No
16:24.00omphePHP is unavailable on demon homepages afaik
16:25.11Clyphoxif you want I can give you an account on my machine but I don't think my php/mysql is working right yet. I am gonna be reinstalling soon too..
16:25.47Clyphoxuklinux.net does free websites with php/mysql but you can only edit it if you dial up with them (0845)
16:25.55ompheS'alright, I'm tinkering with my own Apache.
16:26.03ompheGetting ready for prime time.
16:26.37ClyphoxI've spent lots of time tweaking mine. Now lost the compile scripts I made.. (/me is a dork)
16:28.14ClyphoxI should work.. MUST do my CV :(
16:28.19Clyphoxneed a job soon..
16:28.30ompheI should update mine.
16:28.34ClyphoxAnd I have webdesign to do.. (need cash hehe)
16:28.45ClyphoxCould I see yours for ideas on mine pls?
16:28.50ompheStrange, I'm job hunting but constantly updating the CV
16:29.05Clyphoxhehe
16:29.11omphesure goto www.omphe.com/cv.html
16:29.30ClyphoxThere is a command line tool for doing .htaccess files btw.. look at the apache docs..
16:30.04ClyphoxI STILL after all these years don't use css.. :((
16:30.05ompheI've got to stop doing  "projects".  Warning omphe.com has only been tested on IE >5 Moz and Konqueror
16:30.07Clyphoxmust learn it..
16:30.19Clyphoxlol
16:30.29ompheCss is fantastic and saves time, but has varying mileage
16:30.51ClyphoxSurfing! kewl. I used to try in South Africa when I was younger..
16:30.55ompheFalls over with older browsers. Netscape 4.* was a nightmare
16:31.26ClyphoxUse a php sript to detect browser and fall back on non-css page for it..
16:32.28ompheBrowser compat is pushing me into backend work.  More fun anyway.
16:33.29ClyphoxMan those are really nice webpages.. dispite my dislike of frames..
16:34.24ompheThanks. Yeah, I'm off frames as well.
16:34.51ClyphoxI might use them but I will use a php-backend to decide if the broser supports it..
16:35.06Clyphoxphp is just kewl.. I am loving it.
16:35.31Clyphoxmust go.. have to crack on with sorting out my fragged life..
16:35.34ompheI've recently picked it up.  Love it.  Drops right into place. No learning curve.
16:35.39ompheSee you later.
16:36.15ClyphoxYup
16:36.44ClyphoxYou should try python (as should I) it actually MAKES you code well.. you'll see what I mean when you try..
16:37.15Clyphox|working_PinkFloyd rules btw </rant>
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16:41.53zacharyGood evening
16:44.38omphe'lo z
16:49.28ompheUsing my wirless laptop with an ac cord seems stupid!
16:50.40zacharyyes, and no. Just means you only have to deal with one cord and/or flexability to be in a defferent room
16:51.21omphetrue, my dog can't curl up at my desk
16:52.04zacharyI'm thinking of wireless myself. Keep my daughter from pulling on the cable.
16:52.24ompheyou're american no?
16:52.34zacharyYes, I am.
16:52.43ompheFootball fan?
16:52.47zacharyNot really
16:53.12ompheMmm, avoiding Super Bowl on sunday by going climbing.
16:54.20zacharyI just found out when Super Bowl was yesterday.
16:54.41ompheI can't seem to avoid the ads.
16:54.54ompheCan't figure out why they'd promote it here.
16:58.39zacharyDo you know how many Americans are over here?
16:59.06ompheno, but I bet you do...
16:59.18zacharyyup, one to many! :)
16:59.38ompheYou counting me or yourself?
17:00.59zacharyno, everyone else.
17:01.08zacharyjust kidding.
17:01.21zacharydo you compile your own kernels?
17:01.27ompheI do.
17:01.58ompheHaven't had to in months though.  Feature freeze! :)
17:02.38zacharyI some  how misconfigured one, is there anything else I need to to besides "make clean" to remove the new kernel and modules?
17:04.36ompheyou make clean before you make the kernel image.  Remove the new kernel?
17:06.45*** join/#gllug eye69 (magnus@upcore.net)
17:07.00eye69I think I just lost a drive...FUCK!
17:07.15zacharyeye69: sounds bad.
17:07.20omphesorry..
17:07.44omphewhat are the patient's symptoms?
17:10.29eye69scsi0: ERROR on channel 0, id8, lun0, CDB: Read (10) 00 01 81 1e 76 00 00 80 00
17:10.54eye69Info fld=0x1811e7f, Current sd08:14: sense key Medium Error
17:11.13eye69Additional sense indicates Unrecovered read error
17:11.27eye69I/O error: dev 08:14, sector 852496
17:12.09eye69I get that, with increasing sectors while running fsck.ext3 on it
17:12.13eye69It's LVM, btw.
17:15.03eye69I'm both hoping for it to be the disk and hoping for it to be LVM.
17:15.27eye69I don't want my disk destroyed and I need to run LVM at work.
17:15.57eye69It seems to be the disk though...my sweet 10krpm U160 18GB gone :(
17:19.58omphegoogling round...sounds like a dead disk. Sorry my friend.  :((
17:23.57eye69Hmmmm....
17:24.19eye69I just went through fsck, and now it doesn't complain...
17:25.35ompheTime for a backup then.  Just read a post that said bad blocks will increase quickly.
17:28.10eye69The thing is that I suspect that it might not be the disk...it could be LVM fucking it up
17:49.04eye69Hmmm...checked everything now...fixed the broken packages...
17:49.19eye69Luckily I keep no important data on the system disk
17:58.32ompheI keep all my important data on little slips of paper.
17:58.46ompheWhich I promptly lose or launder! :)
18:16.06eye69I'm doing an rsync backup of this server right now.
18:16.42eye69Probably going to buy another 120GB shortly to have a good backup solution.
18:17.01eye69Would be nice to have a tape station, but they're oh so expensive.
18:17.13ompheWhats a 120GB cost these days?
18:17.20eye69£120
18:17.38eye69£170 for the WD with 8MB cache
18:19.17eye69I can't get recording working from the BT878. :/
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18:47.04formihi
18:48.17ompheevening formi
18:48.40formiups, that late
18:52.58eye69Anybody having problems on Blue Yonder?
18:53.08forminot me
18:53.19eye69My net went down for about 15 minutes...
18:53.34formialtough I've haven't used it since yesterday about 16:00
18:53.50eye69Oh well, net back and all is well.
18:54.25formiif that is all you are lucky
18:54.54eye69Yeah...
18:59.00eye69Whoa...blocked it off on a firewall...
18:59.16eye69The packet counter is rising fast. :)
19:04.30formiyeap i can see them
19:04.56omphewhat logs are you checking?
19:05.06formifirewall logs
19:14.20*** join/#gllug dankolb (~dankolb@spookhive.demon.co.uk)
19:15.06omphehello dankolb
19:15.22dankolbHiya
19:17.52*** join/#gllug Jenson (Jenson@host213-1-195-171.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
19:18.01JensonHey people
19:18.03omphewb Jenson
19:18.07Jensonty omphe
19:18.31formihi Jenson & dankolb
19:18.47JensonGood evening formi, how are you?
19:19.19formiquite sleepy
19:19.23Jensonwb HuhnICE
19:19.25formiand that's odd
19:19.26HuhnICE<- ice hockey training
19:19.29dankolbHi Jenson
19:19.31HuhnICEbye, and have a nice evening
19:19.41dankolbBye HuhnICE
19:19.47dankolbJenson: Why aren't you tidying up?
19:19.47Jensonformi: Have you been staying awake too long?
19:19.50formisee ya
19:19.51JensonHeya dankolb
19:20.04formiwent early to bed, around 1:30
19:20.20dankolb:)
19:20.23formigot up at 12:30, maybe too much it was
19:20.30Jensonformi: I went to bed at 11:15 last night, and hot out of bed abput 10:30 this morning
19:20.39JensonYou're tired coz you slept in late then
19:20.51formi"hot out of bed" ???
19:20.53Jensons/hot/got
19:20.57Jensonlol
19:21.48Jensons/wait/weight
19:21.52formiI must admit I had inhaled some interesting vapours...
19:21.58JensonDo I speak English or not?
19:22.05Jensonformi: Glue sniffing?
19:22.07formistop eating
19:22.16JensonGood idea
19:22.23dankolbJenson: Don't stop eating
19:22.30dankolbYou're not fat, and you won't be nice if you're too thin
19:23.04Jensondankolb: I don't wanna lose weight, just not put any more on...I can't believe I'm 8st now
19:23.33dankolbI guess that's a reasonable weight - at the bottom of the healthy scale
19:25.19dankolbYou're a girl?
19:25.28JensonYeah
19:25.30JensonGood point
19:25.39dankolbAt least you were last time I checkeed
19:25.42dankolb*checked
19:26.20dankolbThat would explain why you're ignoring me on privmsg, then...
19:26.23dankolbMaybe I will
19:26.47formiibot: seen leeds?
19:26.51leeds <~richardc@vmlinuz.fsnet.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 4d 19h 31m 55s ago, saying: 'time for me to sleep... g'night all'.
19:27.02Jensonlol he's still asleep thern....
19:27.39formiwhen is fosdem? next wkd?
19:27.44JensonNope
19:27.47JensonWeekend after
19:27.53formita
19:28.01dankolb8th & 9th Feb
19:28.06formieye69: do you use Pine?
19:29.37eye69formi: No, I switched to mutt about a year ago.
19:29.51Jensonheya eye69
19:29.55eye69Hi Jenson
19:30.30formioh, yeah I remenber now, I'm wondering what info is put on a .core file
19:30.47formiwhen pine crashes
19:31.06dankolbIt's a complete memory dump of the process' memory
19:31.11formiwondering if the mail could be retrieved from that file
19:31.29formidankolb: that's a yes then
19:31.36dankolbMaybe
19:31.45dankolbstrings pine.corfe
19:31.47dankolb*core
19:32.36formilooking at it now
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19:33.35Jensonhi St
19:33.38Jensonoops
19:33.40dankolbHello Brookes person
19:33.43Jensonstephen even
19:34.27dankolbWhy not?
19:34.58JensonI was gonna try to get Automotive Engineering sonsered by Arrows F1
19:35.10stephenlo all
19:35.42dankolbHeh
19:35.47dankolbYou'd need a maths A-Level for that
19:36.00JensonExactyl
19:36.08dankolbI have a friend who's doing Automotive Engineering at Brookes
19:36.13JensonI have a Biology AS Level :)
19:36.15dankolbHe really can't hack the maths
19:36.50JensonI have a cousin who was doing computing, dropped it for maths coz he couldnt do it (how the hell anyone understands maths is beyond me)
19:36.57dankolb:-)
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19:37.01dankolbMaths isn't too bad
19:37.22stephenloads of people transfer off the brookes computer science course because they get scared of the maths
19:38.10Jensongrrr lol
19:38.44dankolbstephen: Well, maths is quite important in CompSci
19:38.54stepheni know
19:39.16dankolbAre you doing CS?
19:39.20stephenyep
19:40.05dankolbNo, you're IRCing
19:40.16dankolbstephen: What year?
19:40.21stephen1st
19:40.32JensonYou 19 stephen?
19:40.37stephen18
19:40.49JensonCool
19:40.52dankolbCool. So, have you been to any OxLUG meetings yet?
19:41.01stephennope ;)
19:41.13dankolbWhy not?
19:41.25dankolb:)
19:42.10stephencos i only found out about them in november and 1 was at a uni thing the same night as the dec. one and i was away for the first week of jan.
19:42.44dankolbExcuses :-P
19:42.50dankolbThere should be one on Feb 2nd
19:43.02stephenhey, i made it to the gllug meeting ;)
19:43.10Jenson:) well done
19:43.43dankolbstephen: Did you? Then why didn't you identify yourself? ;-)
19:44.04ompheeye69: share...
19:44.14stephenwhat do you mean 'identifty' myself?
19:44.24dankolbSay "Hi, I'm stephen from IRC"
19:44.37eye69Jan 25 20:42:39 host1 kernel: IN=eth1 OUT=eth0 SRC=195.178.242.13 DST=195.84.97.15 LEN=404 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=117 ID=23691 PROTO=UDP SPT=1035 DPT=1434 LEN=384
19:44.43eye69Just one of the hundreds...
19:45.03Jensoneye69: Don't share actually lol
19:45.19stephencos i didn't know about #gllug until the day before the meeting
19:45.26dankolbeye69: MSSQL worm?
19:45.27formiI also have some hitting on 1433
19:45.27dankolbAhh :)
19:46.00JensonWhy is it that I spot a nice top, and then realize I've already got it? Clothes shopping is silly
19:46.04dankolb:-)
19:46.12dankolbJust get some nice geek T-Shirts
19:46.20eye69dankolb: Yeah
19:46.44dankolbHm
19:47.00JensonWhat does "Type 10/0" mean as a port?
19:48.18Jensonremote port I mean...outgoing on the ICMP port?
19:48.25ompheIf my ports show open on a web scan, then firewall isn't blocking no?
19:48.31JensonI don't understand firewalls really lol
19:48.34Jensonyeah omphe
19:48.41JensonAre you using the sheildsUP test?>
19:48.46dankolbFirewalls just block or allow ports
19:49.06JensonMy firewall blocks adverts too
19:49.12formiomphe: try to telnet from a remote machine
19:49.25ompheusing Bastille as I'm totally new to security
19:50.44formibastille is very nice
19:51.12ompheDon't seem to have got it right though!
19:51.12JensonI'm just wondering why my Pc is trying to connect to ALL-ROUTERS.MCAST.NET coz it's being blocked but I don't recognize it
19:51.17zacharyEvening everyone
19:51.21Jensonheya zachary
19:51.26eye69Hi zachary
19:51.50dankolbMulticast networking, Jenson
19:52.14Jensondankolb: ty
19:52.20JensonNot that I understand
19:52.27dankolbThat's okay
19:53.35dankolbfun
19:53.40dankolbnot
19:53.48JensonI like clothes shopping
19:53.55dankolbBuying or looking?
19:54.19JensonI wandered around a shop in a full length hooded black velvet cape for 10 mins on Wednesday.....I loved it
19:54.23JensonLooking usually
19:54.31JensonI try not to spend money
19:54.34dankolb:)
19:55.08dankolbwear?
19:55.29Jensonlol
19:55.40Jensonchequer is the name of one of the local chipsho[s
19:55.43Jensonshops
19:55.48dankolb:)
19:57.20Jensonbit
19:57.20Jensonnot nit
19:57.26JensonDamn keyboard
19:57.28dankolbWhat?
19:57.34dankolbWhen was I messing up your gothness?
19:57.43dankolbApart form saying that goth doesn't suit yo
19:57.44dankolb*you
19:57.53JensonMy granny says it does
19:58.23dankolbYeah, well
19:58.33dankolbHow do you mean by 'revert a bit', anyway?
19:58.48JensonGoth out a little
19:59.10dankolbIck
19:59.16dankolbDon't send a picture then
19:59.54JensonI better get going, I wanted to phone my gran before Casualty is on
20:00.06dankolbTo tell her you're being goth?
20:00.18JensonNope lol
20:00.24dankolbheh
20:00.35JensonJust coz she said she'd call tonight, and if I pohne then she wont phone dutring casualty
20:01.12dankolbah okay
20:03.47dankolbSo go phone then
20:03.57Jensonlol
20:03.57Jensonok
20:04.15*** part/#gllug Jenson (Jenson@host213-1-195-171.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
20:07.00ompheMy eyeballs are cooked.  G'night all.
20:07.17*** part/#gllug omphe (omphe@keiko.demon.co.uk)
20:09.43zacharyformi: still alive?
20:12.41*** join/#gllug BorgBaby (~BorgBaby@modem-558.caterpie.dialup.pol.co.uk)
20:16.25formiyeap
20:16.45formijust reading news
20:23.23BorgBabyhi formi
20:23.42formihi BorgBaby
20:24.09BorgBabyhow are you?
20:24.25formitrying not to fall asleep
20:24.50formihaving fun reading the mails about the ms sql worm
20:25.28BorgBabyi hope it spreads to access (!)
20:26.00formii have found the source code and its really easy to run
20:26.08BorgBabyi'm enjoying having a quiet pc for the first time in about 4 months
20:26.14formihttp://www.digitaloffense.net/worms/mssql_udp_worm/worm.pl
20:26.26BorgBabyit's a perl script?
20:26.48formiyes but the udp packet is quite unreadable
20:27.27formibasically it just print the packet raw using netcat
20:28.09BorgBabylooks like hex
20:31.14formiread(7, "\33[37mread(7, \"\\33[37mread(7, \\\"\\"..., 16384) = 169
20:31.14formiwrite(4, "OYdK\301g\325\17\16\25:QnxxI\251\375xi]\360P\334\5?\335"..., 96) = 96
20:31.14formiread(7, "\33[37mread(7, \"\\33[37mread(7, \\\"\\"..., 16384) = 169
20:31.14formiwrite(4, "\23\330[\232`\247\312\310UZh2;_\310\210y\317\230\225\306"..., 80) = 80
20:31.14formiread(7, "\33[37mread(7, \"\\33[37mread(7, \\\"\\"..., 16384) = 170
20:31.15formiwrite(4, "\1771\365\347cz\251\321\240/\276\342y;\204tTL\6\351#\16"..., 80) = 80
20:31.45formithat is the output of strace on a running sshd session
20:34.10BorgBabywhat's it writing to?
20:34.42formistdout
20:46.18formihttp://unixsex.com/admins/bondage/, it's not pr0n
20:46.52eye69formi: No? Damn.
20:47.54formihttp://unixsex.com/admins/sunsex1/
20:48.02formihttp://unixsex.com/admins/sunsex2/
20:52.13formithis gets better
20:52.18formihttp://unixsex.com/admins/vintage/index2.html
20:52.40BorgBabyfunny tho'
20:52.44formiI shall tell Jenson
20:52.56BorgBabyshe'll get excited ;)
20:52.59formiwhat is dan up to late at night
20:55.59formihttp://www.asciipr0n.com/
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21:04.09dankolbformi: Heh
21:04.24eye69Lucky nobody was seriously injured or killed in the derailment.
21:04.57eye69s/seriously injured/killed/
21:05.34formitwo days ago LU ppl said there is no such thing as overcrowded trains
21:05.54dankolbThey said that some time ago, too
21:06.53dankolbThe Northern Line is fairly crowded even in the middle of the day
21:07.34formii seriously avoid the tube
21:08.39dankolbI quite like it, normally
21:08.49dankolbApparently the driver did report a possible fault
21:09.14dankolbBut he was told to carry on
21:11.18BorgBabyi'd like to know just how it went off the rails
21:11.29dankolbApparently an engine part fell off the back carriage
21:13.18BorgBabyconsidering the fuss they normally make - fire strikes, people getting ill, etc, it's bloody disgusting
21:13.18formiwhen using squid, what ports are used appart from 3128 and 3130? defaults?
21:13.52formithis wouldn't happen in France
21:14.03BorgBabydunno, I don't use it - mayb 8080?
21:14.17BorgBabyno, or anywhere else
21:14.32dankolbBorgBaby: Well, apparently the driver did report a fault
21:14.43eye69formi: It should only be 3128 provided that it's a "normal" setup, with no clustering.
21:14.51BorgBabyi got a thameslink (tulse hill-kings x) today - got to blackfriars, looked up after 5 mins & was going back down again!
21:15.15formiwell actually it doesn't work when accesing squid by ssh tunnels,
21:15.36formiit only works if tunneling 80-3128  3130-3130
21:15.50formione sec
21:16.00formithat was squid to squid
21:18.03eye69Yeah, 3130 is squid-squid
21:18.38formibefore i had latop - local squid - ssh tunnel - remote squid
21:20.59formieye69: do you have to go through the transparent bluey web proxy?
21:21.34*** join/#gllug Jenson (Jenson@host213-1-141-93.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
21:21.48JensonHey all.
21:22.25dankolbHey
21:23.07eye69formi: Yeah, if I don't use an external proxy. I've done that a couple of times when it has annoyed me.
21:34.43BorgBabyhi Jenson
21:34.57Jensonhey BorgBaby
21:35.45formieye69: my too flatmate tend to enjoy downloading things they shouldn't
21:36.52formis/too/two
21:41.58Jensonformi: Wasn't the internet invented so naughty men could download things that they shouldnt?
21:42.23formino
21:42.38murbleno, that was usenet.
21:42.42formithe ameircan military wanted the russian hot birds
21:43.19murbledo you know the sottry behind tcp congestion control?
21:44.19formisomebody like ken livingston had a funny idea?
21:45.35dankolbHm. TCP Congestion charges?
21:46.40BorgBabyi read this article ages ago about how humans turned all technology into pr0n - very interesting
21:47.24formimost computer advancements have been driven by the porno industry or the militar bonkers
21:47.31Jensonand true I should think BorgBaby
21:48.05BorgBabythink videos, camcorders & webcams for a start...
21:48.12dankolbdigital cameras...
21:48.32JensonAs they say u can use the letters of Pentium Proccessor to make 'proccesses porn pronto'
21:49.14JensonI think I spelt Processor wrong there lol
21:49.19dankolbYou did
21:49.29Jenson:P what a geek...
21:49.53dankolbwho? you?
21:50.01Jensonyeah me
21:50.23dankolb:)
21:52.21eye69dankolb: What version of Slackware would run on 386sx 16 Mhz with 4MB RAM?
21:52.29dankolbeye69: An old one
21:52.32formia trim one
21:52.32dankolbWhat size hard drive?
21:52.42eye69112+40
21:53.09dankolbTry Slackware 2 or Slack 3
21:53.14eye69Ok.
21:54.11formieye69: you should prolly go for the one Paul Nasrat is working on
21:54.31eye69It's a guy in #linux on Quakenet. He's just started to download 8.1, the idiot.
21:54.36dankolbfule
21:54.55Jensonlol
21:55.10JensonI have 8.1 on a 200MHz...and I'm not quite sure that's sensible
21:55.17dankolbThat is
21:55.24Jensonplus it takes nearly a whole 2GB drive....
21:55.37dankolbBe more selective in your packages, then
21:56.14JensonI was reading Dummies Guide For Win 95 coz I was bored and randomly pressing enter during install.....I only deselcted a few pavkages
21:57.16eye6922:51:24 < Valttu> well currently I'm downloading sw 8.1 :/ hope it works
21:57.40Jensoneye69: Is this guy a newbie?
21:57.47dankolbHeh
21:57.54JensonNot that I'd have tried to put Slack on a 386....
21:58.00JensonSlack 8.1 even
21:58.14eye6922:51:48 <@eye69> Valttu: That wont work.
21:58.14eye6922:51:56 <@eye69> Valttu: You need an _OLD_ version.
21:58.14eye6922:52:02 < Valttu> still I'll give it a shot :(
21:58.21dankolbfule
21:58.24eye6922:52:33 <@eye69> Valttu: It's no use. Listen to us.
21:58.33eye6922:53:20 <@eye69> 22:53:09 < dankolb> Try Slackware 2 or Slack 3
21:58.41JensonWhat a luser lol
21:58.46eye6922:54:21 < Valttu> eye69 isn't slackware configurable to work with no GUI?
21:58.53dankolbJenson: And are you that good at listening to others?
21:58.55eye6922:54:40 <@eye69> Valttu: IT WONT WORK!
21:58.55eye6922:54:51 <@eye69> Valttu: You can't even get the installation going, you fuckwit.
21:59.05eye6922:55:09 < Valttu> on the listing in distrowatch.com it said processor architecture: 80386
21:59.11eye6922:55:24 -!- mode/#linux [+b *!*valttu82@*.dial.kolumbus.fi] by eye69
21:59.11eye6922:55:25 -!- Valttu was kicked from #linux by eye69 [Fuck off]
21:59.14dankolbActually, you can get the lowmem disk image
21:59.37Jensondankolb: Yeah but 8.1 still wouldn't run on a 386....
21:59.40eye69dankolb: Of course, then he changeed his host and rejoined.
21:59.49dankolbJenson: Yes it would
21:59.50eye69Jenson: Yes it would.
21:59.58eye69Jenson: Not with 4MB memory.
22:00.13eye69Almost all distros are precompiled for 386
22:00.18dankolbActually, it would, if you get lowmem.i boot image
22:00.48dankolb:)
22:00.51eye69I tried to run w98 on my mums Pentium Overdrive 83MHz with 32MB...it ran out of memory while installing Office.
22:00.58dankolbHah
22:01.05eye69A P90 is still usable as a router.
22:01.13dankolbSo's a 386
22:01.20eye69Yup.
22:01.24JensonI think the mobo is fried eye69, or something
22:01.31dankolbWorks up to 2Mbit (2x3C509s)
22:01.34eye69dankolb: That's getting overkill though.
22:01.48eye69I ran a 486 with FreeBSD as NAT for my DSL for a while.
22:06.05Jenson<rant> Why the hell does IE6 add extra http:// at the beginning of links that already have it?? grrr </rant>
22:06.15dankolbBecause it's shit?
22:06.36JensonIt's a nice browser actually
22:06.37eye69Uhm...
22:06.46JensonBut IE 5.5 was better
22:06.57eye69What makes it good?
22:07.33eye69The idiotic noise everytime you click on a link? The stupid scrolling?
22:07.34dankolbIt works with Causeway Collaboration, whereas Nutscrape doesn't
22:07.34stepheneverything - but only if you only ever used IE
22:07.54stephenlike most people
22:07.55JensonIt doesnt male noise eye69
22:08.00JensonNeoplanet is nice
22:08.08JensonI just can't stand Netscape/Moz
22:08.17Jensons/male/make
22:08.17eye69Neoplanet is just another GUI for the IE engine.
22:08.22dankolb:)
22:08.26JensonI know that eye69 but it's pretty
22:08.34dankolbMoz isn't too bad on OS X
22:09.12JensonIE is nice on OS 10 from what I remember
22:09.18eye69People just think IE is good because it renders pages specifically made for IE>
22:09.40dankolbJenson: I prefer Moz for OS X
22:09.43JensonExactly eye69, and most unfortunately are
22:09.48dankolbTabbed browsing is so nice
22:09.48stephenand cos it's made by microsoft and it's the only bloody browser on their PC
22:10.00Jensonstephen: I have Win and I have 3 browsers
22:10.16stepheni've lost count how many i have under win
22:10.47JensonI dunno how many I have on Slack...seenas I only use it coz the screensaver looks pretty in the dark.
22:11.26stepheni've got mozilla, netscape 7 and opera
22:12.37formiphoenix on windows is quite nice
22:12.47eye69I've got Mozilla and Opera, and some that build on Mozilla.
22:12.50eye69formi: Yeah.
22:13.08JensonI've never used phoenix
22:13.37Jensonhey davilion
22:13.46formii just wish i could find how to avoid windows recreating the links to msie and outlook
22:14.06dankolbhi dav
22:20.54davilionhiya
22:21.01davilioni can't believe i jhust did th\at
22:21.05dankolbdid what?
22:21.07JensonWhat?
22:21.07davilioni fell asleep at my desk again
22:21.10dankolbheh
22:21.26JensonGo to bed davilion...don't make my come over there......
22:21.27davilionone minute it was 3pm and i was checking my mail before going out to the pub
22:21.36davilionthen its 10pm and i was still here lol
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22:22.11dankolb:)
22:22.16dankolbJenson: Your come over there?
22:22.20dankolbThat's a bit far....
22:22.34eye69davilion: Not a good sign.
22:22.43davilionheh yeah, your gonna travel 450 miles just to tuck me in?
22:23.09Jensondavilion: If I wasn't scared of planes then don't put it past me.
22:24.01Jensondankolb: I'm already in love with you.
22:24.06JensonI think it was chocolate...
22:24.13dankolbAh yes
22:24.14dankolb:)
22:24.19davilionah, Jenson: you want to get the virgin x country express train via everywhere
22:24.23daviliononly takes a couple of weeks
22:25.08dankolbyeh
22:28.22davilionand you get very harmless staff to answer your every concearn
22:28.33dankolbyeah
22:28.39dankolblike how to spell concern?
22:28.39Jenson:)
22:29.20davilionyeah
22:29.35dankolb:)
22:30.51ClyphoxComputer upgrade time.. bbiam..
22:30.57Jensonokm Clyphox
22:47.02davilionhmm, apparently i'm a freak, but cool in my own sweet and special way.
22:47.16davilionhow shoud I take that?
22:47.52dankolbI'd take it as a compliment
22:48.04JensonAs would I
22:50.28forminowadays being a freak means not being like the rest which is very GOOD
22:50.38dankolbyeah
22:50.50dankolbIt's only a playground insult, really
22:51.22formiI like that I could ask not to be discriminated because I belong to a minority group
22:52.03formithose who use their brains
22:52.04JensonI am a freak
22:52.17dankolbOnly in a good way
22:52.22formiin your case there is no doubt
22:52.25dankolbformi: :)
22:52.48Jensonformi: You are  a freak too...you were the one who brought up the whole 'feeding the rabbit' thing
22:53.10murbleis it hungrey jenson?
22:53.23Jensonlol quite possibly
22:54.02formiJenson: you are including all spaniards, and there are ppl there who dont even qualify to be freaks
22:54.31Jensonformi: No I'm not, coz you are the one thay said it.
22:54.36Jensons/thay/that
22:55.44formiis like if you go to spain and you translate the meaning of "going out to pull birds"
22:57.07JensonYou must find it most amusing here in England then
22:57.28formiyes
22:57.44JensonHow long have you been here?
22:57.58formionce we had a party in a friends place there were ppl from everywhere
22:58.12formiand somebody mentioned the "french kiss"
22:58.36formias it happens in france is known with another name "spanish kiss"
22:58.57JensonHow confusing...just call it snogging
22:59.04formithe colombians call it the "russian kiss"
22:59.50formiis sp it can have to meanings one of them "the black kiss"
23:00.36formiwhich is not really snogging
23:01.11SpudUAwayThere is also the Glasgow kiss, which, if done right, can leave your tongue lolling about!
23:01.33Jensonwb SpudULike
23:01.56SpudULikety petal flower
23:02.09Jenson:)
23:02.27zacharyhi SpudULike
23:02.39SpudULikeHi zachary
23:03.20JensonDo I wanna reconnect, or do I wann go to bed?
23:04.04dankolbBed?
23:05.00JensonBed
23:05.03Jensonsounds like a good idea
23:05.14Jensonbut dunno if I CBA to walk upstairs
23:05.29SpudULikereconnecting in bed sounds like fun too.
23:06.05zacharySpudULike: redid the header of the flyer, took it 96pt, expanded kerning at 5pt.
23:07.18zacharySpudULike: would you like me to email it to you?
23:07.39SpudULikeI'm sure it'll be fine.  Yes, I would like to see a copy.
23:08.02Jensonflyer for what zachary?
23:08.29*** join/#gllug cupis (~paul@modem-2558.dasyure.dialup.pol.co.uk)
23:08.34Jensonhi cupis
23:08.46dankolbhi cupis
23:08.56*** part/#gllug Jenson (Jenson@host213-1-141-93.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
23:08.57cupishi Jenson
23:08.59SpudULikeOn the lugmaster list, they have been trying to sort details out for the annual event.  the are thinking of dropping 'installfest' and using 'Linux awareness'
23:09.03cupisbye jenson :)
23:09.07cupishi dankolb
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23:11.14dankolbwb
23:11.24cupiswb Jenson
23:11.43JensonBloofy hell...it joined one chanel on the history of the other...and the other on the other one lol
23:11.48Jensonchannel not chanel
23:11.54eye69"I made a note in my diary on the way here. It simply says:......bugger"
23:12.08dankolbwhat, Jenson?
23:12.20Jensondankolb: I have all the previous technoir stuff on here....but this is gllug
23:12.42dankolbah
23:13.43zacharySpudULike: I think calling it,"Linux Awareness" is a little on the petty social liberal side. Like we need simpathy.
23:14.14SpudULikezachary: Flyer looks fine, post it to gllugadmin.
23:14.18Jensonzachary: It sounds like an African malnourishment thing
23:14.45formilinux communist freeloaders
23:14.50dankolb:)
23:15.10SpudULikeIt's not the best term, but their point was that modern distros are so good at installing themselves that part of the meeting was falling by the wayside.
23:15.50SpudULike"Freeeeee the source, let them know it Christmas time, Freeeee the sour......"
23:16.07JensonYeah SpudULike, just like that
23:16.30SpudULikePenguinaid.
23:16.43Jenson:) complete with Tux mascot
23:17.03SpudULikeHow many penguins do you need to squeeze to make 2L of Penguinaid?
23:17.28JensonSpudULike: I think you're getting a little distracted mate
23:17.50SpudULikeSorry, what were you saying?
23:17.57zacharySpudULike: That is plain wrong! Penguine juice, yuk!
23:17.59dankolbSpudULike: Depends if the Penguin Aid is supposed to help female penguins...
23:18.20Jensonlol dankolb, you've been spenidn too much time talking to armijn
23:18.33dankolbYup :)
23:18.47dankolbor the other way round...
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23:19.14dankolbHi, upgraded Clyphox
23:19.19Jensonwb Clyphox
23:20.21ClyphoxHeya
23:20.29dankolbWhat did you upgradew?
23:20.32dankolb*upgrade
23:20.43SpudULikeThe flyers, btw, are to help announce the installfest. The plan being to post a file on the gllug website that people can print off and post 'around town'.
23:20.58ClyphoxMy pc now has a zip drive/dvd-ram and 640M ram
23:21.07SpudULikeMost of the advertising has been concentrated on just Tottenham Court Road.
23:21.10dankolbcool
23:21.11ClyphoxAnd a removable hdd bay. (empty)
23:21.25JensonSpudULike: Good idea....I'll stick then up in random places around this town...its only about 100 miles from london
23:21.33ClyphoxCant get the DVD-ram to work. Actually crashed the last box I tried it on..
23:22.18SpudULikeJenson: You do have a local lug too. Or is it had.
23:22.26ClyphoxIf the flyers are in .ps It'll make my life much easier too (btw)
23:22.48JensonSpudULike: The nearest one is Cambridge..there is an East Anglia one, but it doesnt seem to come near here
23:23.49SpudULikeJenson: Oh yeah, ELUG have been a bit quiet.
23:24.21JensonI dunno if we have any Linux users round here anyway
23:24.36dankolbYou
23:24.55JensonOther than me
23:25.11JensonNot that I can really be called a Linux user
23:25.13SpudULikeWell, if you fancy posting some of the flyers, it'll bring them out of the woodwork.
23:25.15dankolbyeah you can
23:25.30JensonSpudULike: I think I'll do that
23:25.39JensonDo tell me when you've uploaded it
23:26.07ClyphoxJenson: I could never believe there were possibly any near me. Then I meet ResuDaed a few weeks ago..
23:26.33JensonHow long has ResuDaed been with Elizabeth then Clyphox?
23:26.47ClyphoxJenson : And the other day I was at Al-Pali and I saw a big fat bearded guy jogging with a Tux T-shirt too hehe
23:26.56SpudULikeI think they will be posted as pdfs.  When done I'm sure Zach (or me) will post a message so everyone can join in.
23:27.04ClyphoxI think its only been official for a few weeks
23:27.17JensonClyphox: :) sweet
23:27.19SpudULikeClyphox: Did he have a Red Hat on???
23:27.48ClyphoxI only saw tux
23:28.03zacharyIf anyone wants the flyer it is at http://gllug.org.uk/installfestflyer-20030301.pdf
23:29.26SpudULikezachary: Cool stuff.
23:29.35Clyphox[nod]
23:29.44JensonI'll photocopy them and find somewhere for them
23:30.00TarragonNice layout.
23:30.21zacharyPlease notify me if you have any problems with downloading or printing(quality).
23:30.34zacharyI'm updating the site to include a link.
23:31.06dankolbEdit the PDF, then
23:31.18Jensondankolb: What Win programs do that?
23:31.28dankolb'edit' ?
23:31.45dankolbAh. PDF is binary. Change it to Postscript, then edit it
23:32.42JensonExcuse me...I'm not a geek, I don't know how to do that either
23:32.50dankolbYou're a geek
23:33.01dankolbGet a copy of Ghostscript
23:33.11dankolb(it'll be on your Slack machine)
23:33.39JensonAll I know about GhostScript is that it seems to be missing my print drivers
23:33.51dankolbHeh
23:33.58ClyphoxInstall webmin
23:34.09eye69Yuck.
23:34.11dankolbHow would that help?
23:34.15dankolbThat doesn't have printer drivers
23:34.39ClyphoxIts easy to use for gs/lpd configuring
23:34.47eye69You shouldn't encourage installation of webmin. You should encourage removal of it. :)
23:34.50dankolbSo's apsfilter
23:34.59Clyphoxtrye
23:35.00Jensonapsfiler is a pain
23:35.02Clyphoxer true
23:35.05JensonLinux is pain too
23:35.09Clyphox[nod]
23:35.15JensonWin is being damn stable ATM
23:35.51cupisdankolb: forced?
23:35.54dankolbBut Linux is a pain
23:36.06JensonI actually hate Linux
23:36.07dankolbcupis: Yeah. Slackware took out lpd, and put in lprng and cups instead
23:36.19dankolbJenson: You have FreeBSD...
23:36.19JensonLinux hates me back
23:36.21eye69Jenson: You're no geek. Admit it.
23:36.28Jensoneye69: I have admitted it many times
23:36.32dankolbeye69: Don't be cruel to her :)
23:36.59eye69dankolb: Heh
23:37.10JensonTime for bed I think
23:37.19dankolbalready?
23:37.27JensonI seem blatently incapable of doing anything geekish right now
23:37.32dankolbSo?
23:37.33JensonSo I might aswell be asleep
23:37.36dankolbYou're IRCing
23:37.45JensonLike thats difficult
23:37.50dankolbExactly
23:37.53*** part/#gllug Jenson (Jenson@host62-7-72-189.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
23:38.24Clyphoxbbl..
23:38.31SpudULikeOK, as the saying goes 'I've made my bed, now I have to go and lie in it', so, night guys.
23:38.50dankolbnight SpudULike
23:40.06Clyphox|workingHas anyone used tools to automajicly mount their devices (floppy/zip/cd) before?
23:40.47eye69Not me. Never bothered with it.
23:41.04Clyphox|workingI don't want to be bothered with typing thats all.
23:41.18Clyphox|workingMy fingers are tired after playing the guitar and thats my excuse.. (hehe0
23:41.34eye69A bit of googling and a bit of patience.
23:41.44Clyphox|limbocan't be asked.. busy..
23:41.53Clyphox|limbofm is better anyway hehe
23:49.38zacharyI'm off to bed, good night.
23:49.45TarragonNight
23:50.22cupisnight zachary

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