| 00:00.08 | eye69 | Omg...the fuckwit with the dream about connecting a serial cable and using DOS to IRC through the connection of a w98 machine is back. |
| 00:08.48 | dankolb | Why a fuckwit? |
| 00:08.55 | dankolb | I was doing something similar yesterday at Globix |
| 00:09.05 | dankolb | Although that was serial connection to a Linux machine |
| 00:09.46 | dankolb | 'night all |
| 00:10.13 | eye69 | Exactly, but this guy doesn't seem to want to listen to the answers he is given. |
| 00:10.18 | dankolb | Fule |
| 00:10.28 | dankolb | Anyway, c'ya later |
| 00:12.08 | Clyphox | Maybe he's winding you up (eye69) |
| 00:12.29 | eye69 | No, he's just finnish. |
| 00:12.52 | Clyphox | heh |
| 00:16.22 | davilion | ;) |
| 00:17.05 | davilion | i need something to do, theres a very large sendmail book sitting here which i should read before setting up an mta on my colo box, but theres many more interesting things to do on a saturday night im sure |
| 00:17.22 | eye69 | Hehe. |
| 00:18.43 | davilion | eye69: im going on a sysadmin pilgrimage at the moment |
| 00:18.48 | davilion | and sendmail.cf just lokos so evil |
| 00:18.57 | eye69 | davilion: Heh. |
| 00:19.00 | davilion | otoh i already know how to set up multidrop mailboxes etc under sendmail |
| 00:19.28 | eye69 | I admit that knowing a bit of Sendmail can be useful if you get in the situation of having to admin it, but I wouldn't install it on a new system. |
| 00:19.54 | Clyphox | Actually I meant postfix hehe.. |
| 00:21.19 | eye69 | Clyphox: Heh. |
| 00:22.39 | davilion | last night i tackled apache, so now i can adddomain <domainname> <user> [-alias <domainname>] and creates the user if it doesnt already exists, and creates a virtual host for domains and any aliases i add, creates all the links, sets the permissions, etc and reloads httpd. |
| 00:23.10 | davilion | the night before was dns, but i didnt get too far wiht dns because all my domains are unconfigured by stupid isps who make it hard as possible to farm out your dns servers |
| 00:23.29 | formi | i have a few scripts that do that |
| 00:31.12 | Clyphox | Are you guys on to apache 2? |
| 00:32.24 | davilion | no, |
| 00:32.27 | davilion | i need mod_perl support |
| 00:43.26 | eye69 | Clyphox|fragged: Nah, need to many modules. |
| 00:43.33 | eye69 | s/to/too/ |
| 00:44.30 | Clyphox|fragged | eh? |
| 00:44.54 | Clyphox|fragged | ohh sorry.. apache.. ok gotcha.. |
| 00:44.58 | Clyphox|fragged | bbl |
| 01:17.10 | Huhn | re |
| 01:21.29 | Clyphox|fragged | Hia |
| 01:22.23 | Huhn | hi Clyphox |
| 01:34.09 | formi | hello |
| 01:34.39 | formi | Huhn: could you do me a little favour? |
| 01:34.56 | Huhn | formi: yes? |
| 01:36.46 | Clyphox|UrbanTer | I need to play..working all day.. |
| 01:39.48 | formi | well at this time of the night |
| 01:39.57 | formi | with the teddy bear maybe |
| 01:48.25 | skugg | bombs out, have to make the old fashioned way :) |
| 01:56.05 | formi | DoD offering admin privileges on .mil Web sites, theregister.co.uk |
| 02:26.54 | Clyphox | Goodnight all |
| 02:27.12 | formi | night Clyphox |
| 02:32.18 | Clyphox | Changed my mind.. |
| 02:32.23 | Clyphox | Got a problem and want to sort it now.. |
| 02:32.48 | formi | have you lost your bed? |
| 02:33.12 | Clyphox | hehe it's standing against the wall atm.. floor covered in PC bits |
| 02:33.51 | Clyphox | I want to run a second X for games.. no problem. I can launch it from console but not from my current X.. its weird.. |
| 02:34.16 | Clyphox | it sais : |
| 02:34.17 | Clyphox | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:34.17 | Clyphox | AUDIT: Sun Jan 26 02:28:51 2003: 12074 X: client 1 rejected from local host |
| 02:34.18 | Clyphox | Xlib: connection to ":2.0" refused by server |
| 02:34.18 | Clyphox | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 02:34.18 | Clyphox | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.05 | formi | i don't think you can start it from a xterm |
| 02:37.36 | Clyphox | maybe.. I'll try putting it in my blackbox menu maybe.. |
| 02:37.37 | formi | because i suppose it would inherit the $var of the current X |
| 02:38.48 | Clyphox | I'm trying xhost +127.0.0.1 |
| 02:39.21 | formi | why can't you oven it from the console |
| 02:39.23 | formi | ? |
| 02:40.29 | Clyphox | because I don't want to. |
| 02:40.56 | Clyphox | I don't like relying on my keyboard so much. I'm getting lazy in my old age. |
| 02:41.39 | formi | it would be faster than trying to set up a clean environment inside X |
| 02:41.39 | Clyphox | It works.. |
| 02:41.53 | Clyphox | Just the .Xautority file wasn't allowing it.. |
| 02:42.21 | Clyphox | formi : I know. But I like my menu :) And I like knowing how to do this kinda stuff.. |
| 02:42.33 | Clyphox | I've just made a wrapper for any game now.. |
| 02:42.42 | Clyphox | crude but it works :) |
| 02:44.43 | formi | im trying to guess where my X server get the --nolisten-tcp option from |
| 02:45.04 | formi | i checked the usual suspect with no luck |
| 02:45.07 | Huhn | formi: running Debian? |
| 02:45.09 | Clyphox | proberbly just security from whoever compiled it.. |
| 02:45.20 | formi | nope |
| 02:45.24 | Huhn | it's a Debian special, the --nolisten-tcp |
| 02:45.33 | Huhn | ok.. was a guess ;) |
| 02:45.54 | formi | root 500 1.9 9.9 37984 12556 ?? S Fri01PM 21:23.64 /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 :0 -nolisten tcp |
| 02:46.06 | formi | this is FB 4.7 |
| 02:46.28 | Huhn | it's ok to have it as default, I think |
| 02:48.11 | formi | but i want to be able to have clients connect to me, basically gkrellm on my servers |
| 02:49.20 | Huhn | use xauth? |
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| 03:01.26 | formi | well im off to bed |
| 03:01.35 | Clyphox | night night |
| 03:01.47 | formi | good night |
| 03:01.54 | Clyphox | :) |
| 03:02.37 | Clyphox | bbiam |
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| 03:05.32 | Clyphox | Hi again |
| 03:06.37 | Huhn | wb ;) |
| 03:12.00 | Clyphox | Thanks |
| 03:12.28 | Clyphox | I just got something between 20-50% better FPS one UrbanTerror :-) |
| 03:13.00 | Clyphox | Now all I have to do is mount my pk3's on an Ramdisk |
| 03:13.06 | Clyphox | hehe.. |
| 03:42.10 | HuhnZzZ | nn |
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| 09:52.51 | zachary | good morning |
| 10:28.16 | murble | moin |
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| 10:52.06 | murble | moin Leeds |
| 10:54.32 | Leeds | moin |
| 10:54.50 | Leeds | how goes it? |
| 11:02.53 | murble | oh, it is sunday, i'm in the office. |
| 11:03.19 | Leeds | :-( |
| 11:03.36 | Leeds | but I do intend to do a bit of work today, as well |
| 11:04.11 | murble | and thetimes.co.uk seems to think i'm coming from either belgium or israel, so won't let me read the content online. |
| 11:04.48 | murble | Leeds: Well, I'm trapped in Luxembourg this weekend. |
| 11:04.53 | Leeds | want me to cut'n'paste anything to you? :-) |
| 11:05.03 | murble | no, i'll use a proxy from our london office. |
| 11:05.07 | murble | s/from/in/ |
| 11:05.20 | murble | but i have to fix up the access list |
| 11:05.46 | murble | I'm wondering who thetimes bought their IP to country db from |
| 11:06.26 | Leeds | dunno... |
| 11:07.11 | Leeds | it knows I'm in the UK, when I use our company proxy which is, I think, in Holland... |
| 11:07.15 | Leeds | at least I think it does. |
| 11:08.45 | murble | that worked. i just need to write an javascripty thing to only send me via the proxy for broken sites that insist i be in the uk |
| 11:11.24 | Leeds | hmmm... |
| 11:11.49 | Leeds | I just went from .uk to .nl in a minute or so (at work - switched proxies) and it still worked when I gave my login... |
| 11:12.02 | Leeds | I know it thinks I'm in .nl because it sent me a cookie to tell me |
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| 11:42.20 | murble | hi Jenson |
| 11:42.31 | Jenson | hey murble |
| 11:43.10 | Tarragon | Morning |
| 11:43.34 | Jenson | Morning Tarragon, well almost afternoon, I oughta get dressed lol |
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| 12:10.21 | Jenson | hi stephen |
| 12:10.28 | stephen | hi Jenson |
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| 12:22.08 | stephen | i'm here |
| 12:22.28 | stephen | afternoon dankolb |
| 12:23.07 | dankolb | Hi |
| 12:26.02 | stephen | lol - same here |
| 12:28.07 | dankolb | Hah |
| 12:28.08 | Jenson | skugg: serial? |
| 12:28.14 | skugg | Jenson, nah |
| 12:28.15 | dankolb | Serial keyboard? |
| 12:28.50 | Jenson | Well this is USB but that's coz it's wireless |
| 12:29.03 | stephen | i went to a computer fair near here, bloody hell it was expensive, they wanted like £40 for a copy of win95 and stuff |
| 12:29.20 | dankolb | Jenson: You can get wireless PS/2 |
| 12:29.27 | dankolb | stephen: The Blackbird Leys ones? |
| 12:29.29 | skugg | went to TCR yesterday -- usb->ps/2 and ps/2 keyboard was over twice the price of a usb-keyboard |
| 12:29.29 | Jenson | stephen: There was one like that here |
| 12:29.35 | stephen | dankolb: indeed |
| 12:29.41 | Huhn | moin |
| 12:29.58 | Jenson | People in the paper trying to sell p100 for like £200 |
| 12:30.02 | skugg | but -- I've checked that it works in windows. |
| 12:30.03 | dankolb | Hi Huhn |
| 12:30.13 | dankolb | Jenson: Good on them |
| 12:30.14 | skugg | i've compiled and loaded `hid'. |
| 12:30.18 | Jenson | guten morgan huhn, wie gehts? |
| 12:30.20 | dankolb | If people buy them, that's their problem |
| 12:30.21 | skugg | i don't know what more there is... |
| 12:30.27 | dankolb | *morgen, Jenson |
| 12:30.43 | Jenson | lol dankolb, and I actually studied german |
| 12:30.49 | dankolb | So did I. |
| 12:30.54 | Jenson | Or rather studied how the hell my mate was dating 2 guys |
| 12:31.05 | stephen | i did four years of it and can't remember anything |
| 12:31.19 | Jenson | stephen: I did 6 years of French |
| 12:31.40 | Huhn | guten Morgen, Jenson, mir geht's gut, und Dir? ;) |
| 12:31.51 | stephen | you really can't learn a foreign language in your home country |
| 12:32.04 | Jenson | Except voltanken bitte |
| 12:32.08 | Jenson | Which is wrong I rthink |
| 12:32.11 | Huhn | Jenson: looool |
| 12:32.30 | Huhn | Jenson: no, it's ok, (volltanken with 2 l) very important! |
| 12:32.44 | Jenson | I did 1 year of German |
| 12:32.50 | Jenson | not that I've much to show for it |
| 12:33.07 | Huhn | hey, and always remember important things like "volltanken" and "ein Bier bitte" ;) |
| 12:33.08 | Jenson | I might do Spanish.....or Russian if I'm feeling clever |
| 12:33.26 | Jenson | or ever zwei Bier bitte |
| 12:33.26 | stephen | spanish is really easy |
| 12:33.38 | dankolb | German's more useful |
| 12:34.00 | Jenson | Yeah well dankolb they dropped year 2 german at oir local thing |
| 12:34.12 | Jenson | skugg: I know one of those means keys |
| 12:34.12 | dankolb | Ah |
| 12:34.13 | stephen | dankolb: not if you live in a spanish speaking country it's not ;) |
| 12:34.14 | Jenson | or I think it does |
| 12:34.20 | dankolb | schluessel? |
| 12:34.25 | Jenson | yeah dankolb |
| 12:34.26 | Jenson | that one |
| 12:34.31 | Jenson | I CBA to type |
| 12:34.34 | dankolb | stephen: Yeah, but who'd want to live in one of those? ;-) |
| 12:34.35 | Huhn | skugg: "annpuffsanlaghe" -- I can only guess, Auspuff? back of the car? and the other one is "Schlüssel" |
| 12:34.47 | skugg | Huhn, right. that :P |
| 12:34.52 | skugg | oh. the horror... |
| 12:34.55 | stephen | dankolb: me |
| 12:34.55 | skugg | :) |
| 12:35.00 | dankolb | Yeah, well |
| 12:35.16 | Jenson | skugg: It ok, I asked a Dutch guy what something meant....and it meant 'to lose ones virginty' |
| 12:35.17 | Jenson | lol |
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| 12:35.32 | Jenson | wb Leeds |
| 12:35.44 | skugg | hi Leeds |
| 12:35.53 | Jenson | Leeds: formi has been taking the piss that you've been asleep for 5 days.... |
| 12:36.04 | Huhn | hi Leeds |
| 12:36.17 | dankolb | Hi Leeds |
| 12:36.24 | dankolb | formi's missed you |
| 12:36.29 | Leeds | hey all |
| 12:36.35 | dankolb | Anyway, I have to go eat |
| 12:36.38 | Jenson | formi is cool |
| 12:36.40 | Jenson | See ya danko |
| 12:36.41 | Leeds | bye dan :-) |
| 12:36.43 | Jenson | oops |
| 12:36.47 | Jenson | forgot to press TAB |
| 12:37.08 | Leeds | I've not been asleep - I've been working and doing car stuff |
| 12:37.30 | Huhn | Jenson: breakfast good idea |
| 12:37.35 | Jenson | Leeds: Yeah but the last thing you said was that you were going to sleep about 5 days ago |
| 12:37.42 | Leeds | ah :-) |
| 12:37.51 | Jenson | Huhn: I'm trying to diet. |
| 12:37.51 | Leeds | I've got a new car coming tomorrow!!! :-) |
| 12:38.02 | Jenson | Leeds: What make/model? |
| 12:38.11 | Huhn | Jenson: ah, right, and now you're hungry? |
| 12:38.16 | Leeds | new Megane Dynamique 1.6 |
| 12:38.26 | Jenson | Huhn: Yeah |
| 12:38.28 | Huhn | Leeds: grats :) |
| 12:38.31 | Jenson | Cool Leeds |
| 12:38.35 | Leeds | and I've just upgraded to XFree86 4.3 (prerelease) which is very very cool :-) |
| 12:38.47 | Leeds | I have huge transparent cursors! :-) |
| 12:38.56 | Jenson | :D |
| 12:39.16 | skugg | Leeds ;) |
| 12:39.17 | Leeds | the car is metallic red, loaded with gadgets, and brand-brand-new - just off the boat from France :-) |
| 12:39.42 | skugg | what happened to the old one? |
| 12:40.09 | Jenson | Leeds: You gonna get neon strip lights......I love those |
| 12:40.13 | Leeds | my desktop is now running at 2048x1536, which is huge! I'm losing xterms everywhere... |
| 12:40.28 | skugg | heh |
| 12:40.33 | Leeds | Jenson: they're against the law everywhere except Essex, I think... or they should be |
| 12:40.34 | stephen | Leeds: bloody hell, what size monitor? |
| 12:40.41 | Leeds | 21 inch monitor |
| 12:40.58 | Jenson | Leeds: Well they are selling them in a shop in Suffolk :D |
| 12:40.58 | skugg | Leeds, have you set up usb-keyboards at some point? |
| 12:41.12 | Jenson | I have a 14 inch monitor on my linux machine |
| 12:41.15 | Leeds | monitor borrowed from work - to replace the slightly fading 21 inch one I got from previous work :-) |
| 12:41.22 | Leeds | skugg: never tried it :-( |
| 12:41.32 | skugg | okie. |
| 12:41.46 | Leeds | the old car is... dead-ish, in a garage, after a collision with a speed-bump in Oxford - it's all agk's fault |
| 12:41.46 | stephen | Leeds: lol |
| 12:41.48 | Jenson | skugg: Why are you connecting a keyboard to your laptp anyway? |
| 12:42.09 | Jenson | oh right |
| 12:42.10 | Jenson | lol |
| 12:42.20 | Jenson | I have had RSI for years, but it doesnt seem to get worse |
| 12:42.21 | Leeds | skugg: does the BIOS see it? |
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| 12:42.27 | Jenson | Other than it seems to be spreading |
| 12:42.32 | Jenson | hey formi, Leeds is back! |
| 12:42.36 | formi | hiya |
| 12:42.38 | Leeds | afternoon, formi |
| 12:42.46 | Huhn | hi formi |
| 12:42.54 | skugg | Leeds, i should think so. I have windows on this machine (oh, the horror) and it detected the keyboard at once. |
| 12:42.58 | formi | I got an interesting mail for you Leeds |
| 12:43.14 | Leeds | skugg: what I mean is - before you load any OS, does it see it? |
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| 12:43.43 | zachary | afternoon |
| 12:43.44 | formi | Leeds: it crashes pine always I try to read it, do you want cit? |
| 12:43.53 | formi | s/cit/it |
| 12:43.55 | skugg | Leeds, i don't know... is that important with usb? |
| 12:43.55 | Jenson | I seem to have RSI in my right forearm (although that seems to not be as bad as it was with my last keyborad...and I appear to be getting it in my left wrist somehow |
| 12:43.57 | Jenson | hey zachary |
| 12:44.35 | Leeds | formi: go on... what Pine are you using? |
| 12:44.40 | zachary | hi Jenson |
| 12:44.43 | formi | the latest |
| 12:44.49 | Leeds | skugg: I don't know how important that actually is - but it would seem to be |
| 12:44.53 | formi | as off last wednesday |
| 12:45.03 | Jenson | Well I realy ought to get on with something |
| 12:45.06 | Leeds | formi: oh, okay... no known crash bugs with that AFAIK |
| 12:45.11 | Jenson | I shall chat to you guys later |
| 12:45.13 | Jenson | Bye |
| 12:45.17 | Jenson | and have a nice afternoon |
| 12:45.26 | formi | do you want it as an attachement? |
| 12:45.38 | *** part/#gllug Jenson (Jenson@host62-7-117-211.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 12:46.01 | Leeds | formi: either way... |
| 12:47.05 | formi | ok |
| 12:48.31 | Leeds | yay - just got paid! :-) |
| 12:49.02 | formi | gone |
| 12:49.09 | formi | on sunday? |
| 12:49.21 | skugg | okay, I'm going to reboot and see if I can see the usb-keyboard then... |
| 12:49.24 | formi | on sun-day? |
| 12:49.34 | Leeds | formi: :-) |
| 12:50.13 | Leeds | one question - do you have it set to display HTML or test by default? |
| 12:52.17 | formi | let me check |
| 12:52.19 | formi | 156.25.140.66.in-addr.arpa canonical name = 156.152.25.140.66.in-addr.arpa. |
| 12:52.19 | formi | 156.152.25.140.66.in-addr.arpa name = stephenson.freenode.net. |
| 12:52.34 | formi | before that, im being port-scanned by that box |
| 12:53.49 | formi | prefer plaintext is on |
| 12:54.33 | Leeds | hmmm |
| 12:55.04 | Leeds | nothing looks obviously wrong with that mail - can you try bouncing it to me? |
| 12:55.06 | formi | do you want pine.core? |
| 12:55.52 | formi | it's no longer in any mail folder, it would crash pine everytime i opened the folder containing it |
| 12:56.40 | formi | could you check your firewall logs, and see if that irc server is scanning you as well? |
| 12:57.32 | Leeds | I don't do logging on my firewall |
| 12:58.03 | Leeds | it's not uncommon to scan people who connect to a server to see if they're running dumb stuff which opens the network up to attack |
| 12:58.30 | Leeds | coredump isn't going to be too much use to me... |
| 12:59.44 | formi | well ports scanned include 8001, 8080, 3128, 80 and 81 |
| 13:00.08 | Leeds | probably looking for proxies... |
| 13:00.13 | Leeds | anyway - got to restart my X |
| 13:00.17 | Leeds | back in a mo |
| 13:05.30 | *** join/#gllug Leeds (~richardc@vmlinuz.fsnet.co.uk) |
| 13:06.20 | formi | port 23 has nothing to do with proxii |
| 13:09.45 | Leeds | possibly true |
| 13:11.01 | formi | I have a hunged bash session inside screen, I tried C a q, but nothing happened |
| 13:11.23 | formi | do you know any other key sequence to kill it? |
| 13:11.34 | Leeds | you want to kill the bash? |
| 13:12.09 | formi | I want to kill bash, witout actually using kill |
| 13:12.38 | Leeds | why? |
| 13:12.45 | formi | I want to be able to do it with screen |
| 13:13.20 | formi | I have tooo many bash sessions opened and I don't want to kill the wrong one |
| 13:13.25 | Leeds | hmm... |
| 13:13.43 | Leeds | dunno, if ctrl-a q doesn't work |
| 13:14.12 | formi | ctrl-a b doesn't too |
| 13:14.36 | Leeds | do you have other shells running under the same screen? |
| 13:14.51 | formi | got it |
| 13:15.00 | formi | ctrl-a k |
| 13:15.56 | formi | with so many ways of doing it I didn't bother going too far down the man page |
| 13:31.22 | formi | is there anybody up for a quick procmail challenge? |
| 13:33.39 | formi | i have one email that endend up in the wrong folder, and I can't work out why |
| 13:33.56 | formi | Return-Path: <root@dp.localdomain> |
| 13:33.56 | formi | Delivered-To: formi@tp.localdomain |
| 13:33.56 | formi | Received: from dp.localdomain (dp [10.0.0.1]) |
| 13:33.56 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.00 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.02 | formi | Received: by dp.localdomain (Postfix) |
| 13:34.05 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.12 | formi | Delivered-To: formi@dp.localdomain |
| 13:34.15 | formi | Received: by dp.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 0) |
| 13:34.18 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.21 | formi | To: root@dp.localdomain |
| 13:34.24 | formi | Subject: *** Security Check on dp, Sun Jan 26 12:37:19 GMT 2003 *** |
| 13:34.29 | formi | Message-Id: <20030126123720.592D427AA5@dp.localdomain> |
| 13:34.32 | formi | Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 12:37:20 +0000 (GMT) |
| 13:34.35 | formi | Fro |
| 13:34.37 | formi | From: root@dp.localdomain (root) |
| 13:34.44 | formi | it was caught by one of the next 3 recipes |
| 13:35.02 | formi | :0 |
| 13:35.02 | formi | * ^List-Id:.*@securityfocus.com> |
| 13:35.02 | formi | its-formi |
| 13:35.02 | formi | :0 |
| 13:35.02 | formi | * ^To:.*securityfocus.com |
| 13:35.03 | formi | its-formi |
| 13:35.05 | formi | :0 ^Cc:.*securityfocus.com |
| 13:35.07 | formi | its-formi |
| 13:36.11 | stephen | hmmm |
| 13:36.27 | formi | the only bit in common is "Security" |
| 13:36.38 | formi | in the subject line |
| 13:37.56 | stephen | i dunno, you might want to switch procmail to verbose and read the logs next time it happens (if it happens again) |
| 13:39.13 | formi | it will happen, that mail is send by a cron job |
| 13:39.26 | formi | every day |
| 13:41.18 | stephen | yeah, set it to verbose and it should help you |
| 13:41.41 | formi | ok |
| 13:42.17 | stephen | VERBOSE=yes |
| 13:42.25 | stephen | LOGABSTRACT=all |
| 13:42.33 | stephen | in .procmailrc i think |
| 13:47.52 | zachary | bbl |
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| 13:58.51 | Leeds | mmmm frosties |
| 13:59.07 | mazogs | hi |
| 13:59.34 | Leeds | hi |
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| 14:08.02 | steve | hi |
| 14:08.26 | Leeds | hey |
| 14:08.32 | mazogs | hi steve |
| 14:09.19 | steve | hi there |
| 14:09.36 | formi | hi mazogs and steve |
| 14:10.03 | formi | steve: What have you done to Highbury? |
| 14:12.33 | mazogs | excuse me formi, are you spanish by chance? |
| 14:12.52 | formi | not really, GZ |
| 14:13.24 | mazogs | highbury: hello! who did you say me was spanish too? |
| 14:13.40 | formi | GZ, Galiza |
| 14:14.03 | mazogs | galiza is his nick then? |
| 14:14.29 | formi | despierta que son horas |
| 14:14.39 | Leeds | gotta restart X again |
| 14:14.50 | Tarragon | No. Formi is the nick and he is from Galiza (NW corner of Spain) |
| 14:14.54 | mazogs | formi: eres de Galicia! |
| 14:14.58 | formi | ibot: who is formi? |
| 14:14.59 | | hmm... formi is its-formi other personality |
| 14:15.08 | Huhn | hi Tarragon :) |
| 14:15.11 | formi | ibot: who is its-formi? |
| 14:15.12 | | extra, extra, read all about it, its-formi is a strange galician bloke living in London, the only true @n@rQuist@, O carallo 29. |
| 14:15.22 | Tarragon | ibot who is its-formi? |
| 14:15.23 | | rumour has it, its-formi is a strange galician bloke living in London, the only true @n@rQuist@, O carallo 29. |
| 14:15.32 | Tarragon | Hi Huhn |
| 14:15.37 | mazogs | formi: yo soy de Valencia |
| 14:15.52 | formi | I remenber that |
| 14:16.12 | formi | like the oranges |
| 14:16.14 | mazogs | I though we had never spoke before |
| 14:16.16 | mazogs | yes! |
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| 14:16.36 | formi | we have, and I did explain to you where I was from |
| 14:16.52 | formi | you should back up your memory from time to time |
| 14:17.28 | mazogs | it seems... |
| 14:17.52 | formi | Tarragon: that should read "Tarragoon must learn to speak properly as he types." |
| 14:18.13 | Tarragon | That too. |
| 14:18.17 | Huhn | :) |
| 14:20.04 | murble | does anyone know what day congestion charging starts in london? |
| 14:20.12 | Tarragon | 17 Feb |
| 14:20.29 | murble | that is how long i've got to rescue some suff from work then... |
| 14:23.00 | formi | murble: if you need a hand ... |
| 14:24.03 | skugg | it's not so bad actually |
| 14:25.19 | Tarragon | Thought you did not have USB ports? |
| 14:26.03 | Tarragon | formi: We all wish we could be there. |
| 14:27.19 | formi | well, some of us have free accomodation, :-> |
| 14:27.54 | murble | formi: start walking, i'm sure they'll let you out of the country. |
| 14:29.52 | formi | my cc company wouldn't like that, |
| 14:30.30 | formi | stephen: Boliviano? |
| 14:30.49 | stephen | no - soy ingles |
| 14:31.31 | formi | ingles con casa en bolivia ? |
| 14:31.38 | stephen | asi es |
| 14:31.45 | formi | ok |
| 14:32.00 | stephen | mi familia vive alla |
| 14:33.22 | formi | i think we could stop talking english in this channel, most people in here speak another language |
| 14:33.42 | Leeds | ken, nachon |
| 14:34.02 | formi | como ti queiras meu |
| 14:34.29 | mazogs | a mi me pareix bé |
| 14:36.15 | formi | is that valenciano? |
| 14:36.41 | mazogs | more or less... :) i don't speak it really |
| 14:36.47 | formi | when did it become a "language" ?? |
| 14:36.59 | mazogs | just joking |
| 14:37.30 | mazogs | i don't know, why? |
| 14:37.54 | formi | i remenber thinking "what the hell?" when watching Valencia's FC president talking in valencian |
| 14:38.32 | formi | it seems that is becoming like a fashion to have your own language nowadays |
| 14:39.19 | Leeds | I wish to assert my rights as an ethnic speaker of Yorkshire! |
| 14:39.54 | mazogs | language are part of one's culture i think |
| 14:40.29 | formi | at compulsory "Galician Studies" we were completely drilled with that "In the Iberian Peninsula there are only 5 languages" |
| 14:40.52 | Leeds | English, French, German, Spanish, Portugese... |
| 14:41.00 | formi | Castellano, Catan, Galego, Euskera and Portuguese |
| 14:41.14 | mazogs | how many are there in fact? |
| 14:41.26 | formi | s/Catan/Catalan |
| 14:41.43 | formi | anything else is considered a dialect |
| 14:41.47 | murble | s/else/formi/ |
| 14:41.57 | mazogs | they must be talking about official languages maybe |
| 14:42.16 | murble | well the ethnologue even lists europanto |
| 14:43.23 | formi | there is a difference between a proper language and a dialect of a language |
| 14:43.39 | murble | yeah, it is called an army and a navy, we've done this already. |
| 14:43.51 | skugg | murble, you going to FOSDEM? |
| 14:43.57 | murble | skugg: yep. |
| 14:44.15 | murble | for eurostar? |
| 14:44.22 | Huhn | murble: where are you staying? |
| 14:44.25 | skugg | it came as surprising to me as anyone else... |
| 14:44.35 | Leeds | skugg: how so? |
| 14:44.36 | skugg | murble, i don't know ;) |
| 14:44.41 | skugg | lemme check... |
| 14:44.49 | murble | Huhn: on floor of patricks apartment. |
| 14:44.51 | skugg | yep, it's eurostar |
| 14:45.01 | murble | skugg: how did you aquire them? |
| 14:45.01 | formi | many people don't like to be told that Castellano started as a dialect of the Galego-Portugues |
| 14:45.02 | Huhn | murble: ok :) |
| 14:45.13 | Leeds | skugg: when are the tickets for? |
| 14:45.17 | skugg | Leeds, John H. took care of it for me, that's why :) |
| 14:45.34 | Huhn | murble: from .uk? |
| 14:45.36 | Leeds | ah! |
| 14:45.49 | skugg | 12:27, back 19:57 |
| 14:46.02 | Leeds | ugh... I'm on the 1027 out, coming back on Monday |
| 14:46.19 | Tarragon | 1027 out 1957 back |
| 14:46.21 | murble | Huhn: I don't know that is the problem. |
| 14:46.23 | Leeds | Huhn: yes, most of us |
| 14:46.49 | Huhn | Leeds: are you all joining the pre-drink? ;) |
| 14:46.55 | murble | well not really a problem, if i hapen to be in london i just jump on eurostar |
| 14:47.25 | Leeds | Huhn: that's the plan :-) |
| 14:47.37 | Huhn | nice ;) |
| 14:48.57 | Leeds | me too... I *might* get a new camera to bring with... |
| 14:49.47 | Huhn | which model? |
| 14:50.39 | Leeds | dunno - thinking about a Canon or Fuji - the point is to get something smaller than my current camera, which is a bit brick-like |
| 14:51.01 | skugg | ;) |
| 14:51.24 | Leeds | 135mm? |
| 14:51.39 | Huhn | skugg: what's wrong with a real camera? ;) |
| 14:52.19 | eye69 | Morning |
| 14:52.22 | Leeds | it's 13cm high? |
| 14:52.41 | skugg | Leeds, don't make me insecure now! :P the camera takes 135-film at least. |
| 14:52.58 | skugg | the "mm" behind 135 might have been my brainfart. |
| 14:53.39 | murble | s/steel/borrow/ |
| 14:53.54 | murble | everyone else seems to then demand help to get the photos off the cf |
| 14:54.46 | Leeds | we use my camera for testing gphoto at work :-) |
| 14:55.30 | murble | this is supposed to be for doing docuementatoin, but the only times it would have been useful to have it has been left someones home... |
| 14:55.49 | Leeds | heh |
| 14:56.55 | Leeds | this is very strange - I'm using an XFree86 4.3 prerelease, and it's got anti-aliased/transparent/big/coloured cursors... but my normal arrow has a floating shadow, and it really looks like the cursor is a few mm above the screen :-) |
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| 15:00.09 | Leeds | hi air1 |
| 15:01.20 | formi | hello air1 |
| 15:01.22 | air1 | hey there |
| 15:01.27 | air1 | how's life |
| 15:01.31 | formi | I know who you are |
| 15:01.45 | air1 | yeah and i know what you did last summer |
| 15:02.00 | air1 | yeah good, how you doing |
| 15:02.09 | formi | fine thanks |
| 15:02.26 | air1 | so what's up have you found that tinyX port |
| 15:02.49 | formi | i actually haven't looked for it |
| 15:03.23 | air1 | ok, still trying to compile Flash yeah? |
| 15:03.37 | formi | by the way do you know where X is actually told to use --nolisten-tcp? |
| 15:03.50 | formi | I gave up on flash |
| 15:04.59 | air1 | why don't you set it up on your firewall, i think it's in the 7000 range |
| 15:05.48 | formi | my problem is that i can't find the file that passes that option |
| 15:06.03 | formi | I want X to accept connections |
| 15:06.04 | air1 | ho ok i see |
| 15:06.21 | air1 | humm i really don't know, but is it really listening |
| 15:06.34 | Huhn | formi: have a look at xauth |
| 15:06.42 | air1 | ho ok i see, i believe it should be one of these start options |
| 15:06.43 | eye69 | formi: xauth +hostname |
| 15:07.16 | formi | eye69: even if the X server was started with --nolisten-tcp ??? |
| 15:07.22 | eye69 | formi: No. |
| 15:07.37 | eye69 | formi: grep -r "--nolisten-tcp" /etc |
| 15:07.54 | formi | i checked the usual places |
| 15:08.09 | formi | mainly /usr/X11R6/lib/etc |
| 15:09.39 | eye69 | In Debian it's in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers and /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc |
| 15:10.39 | formi | checking |
| 15:11.00 | formi | i don't use xdm so that is one less to check |
| 15:12.43 | eye69 | If you do: grep -r "..nolisten.tcp" /etc/* |
| 15:13.09 | eye69 | Debian doesn't keep configs in /usr/X11R6/lib/etc |
| 15:14.31 | air1 | i think formi is using FreeBSD right now |
| 15:15.04 | eye69 | Oh..nasty |
| 15:15.54 | air1 | actually the Init seems to be the main difference between linux and bsds |
| 15:16.17 | air1 | apart frm the kernel and fs of course |
| 15:16.35 | eye69 | Yeah...I don't have anything against it apart from the init |
| 15:17.46 | air1 | fair enough, i think each solutions has its benefits |
| 15:18.31 | air1 | actually i did the same such you recommended above grep... didn't return anything |
| 15:18.46 | air1 | even in usr/X11R6/* |
| 15:19.10 | air1 | formi:you may want to check what google has to say |
| 15:20.06 | formi | one of these day i will go and ask on #freebsd, wich I like as much as a kick on the teeth |
| 15:20.40 | air1 | yeah i like the friendly attitude, note that it's specific to this server |
| 15:22.35 | formi | then they wonder why nobody uses fb |
| 15:24.13 | air1 | well i don't think they actually wonder why, but you know it'sd only a core of idiots, mainly i found fbsd users are just as friendly |
| 15:24.16 | air1 | as linux or others |
| 15:24.48 | air1 | but there's always the 37337 kind... whatever |
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| 15:41.15 | eye69 | This is amazing...from about 03.00 I've gotten 15000 hits from that bloody MS SQL worm... |
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| 15:43.04 | omphe | Hello everyone |
| 15:45.35 | air1 | hey there omphe |
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| 16:28.28 | Clyphox | Hi |
| 16:30.08 | davilion | hi |
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| 16:34.16 | dankolb | hullo |
| 16:35.24 | davilion | hi dan |
| 16:36.08 | dankolb | How's it going? |
| 16:43.25 | davilion | im ok, |
| 16:43.28 | davilion | going silently mad |
| 16:44.02 | davilion | u? |
| 16:46.07 | dankolb | Why going mad? |
| 16:46.13 | dankolb | Yeah, I'm okay. Still haven't booked FOSDEM |
| 16:49.47 | davilion | my mum's practicing piano and its going right through me, she's quite good, its just very loud when your tryiung to read lol |
| 16:50.00 | davilion | anybody care to recommend a film? |
| 16:50.02 | dankolb | Ah right. |
| 16:50.10 | dankolb | Monty Python's Life of Brian |
| 16:50.16 | davilion | one at the cinema |
| 16:50.24 | davilion | i watched that last night |
| 16:50.35 | dankolb | Heh :) |
| 16:50.52 | dankolb | Dunno. Chicago? |
| 16:51.29 | davilion | its down to the transporter, the pianist, city of god, about schmidt, chicago or gangs of new york, since changing lanes and catch me if you can arent out yet |
| 16:51.55 | dankolb | The Pianist? Or are you sick of piano ATM? :) |
| 16:55.04 | davilion | not the pianist any more, its got 1* |
| 16:55.09 | davilion | about schmidt looks quite good |
| 16:55.21 | dankolb | Ah |
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| 16:57.30 | dankolb | hi zimm |
| 16:57.35 | zimm | heh .. |
| 16:57.36 | zimm | hi . |
| 16:57.42 | davilion | hmm city of god |
| 16:57.45 | davilion | lkooks quite good |
| 16:58.59 | dankolb | Watch TV, then :) |
| 17:15.41 | dankolb | Hi murble |
| 17:15.52 | dankolb | Where are you staying for it? |
| 17:17.20 | murble | on the floor of a friend appartment. |
| 17:17.23 | murble | s |
| 17:17.35 | dankolb | Ah |
| 17:17.57 | dankolb | Do you know how to get between the Atlas Hotel and the FOSDEM location? |
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| 17:18.25 | dankolb | hi zachary |
| 17:18.38 | zachary | hi dankolb |
| 17:22.43 | murble | dankolb: not a clue |
| 17:23.02 | dankolb | Damn |
| 17:23.18 | dankolb | I'll wait until some other FOSDEMmers get on, then |
| 17:23.42 | murble | fosdem is ages away, i don't know why you are worried. |
| 17:24.09 | dankolb | It's 3 weeks away |
| 17:29.41 | zimm | hehe , 3 weeks ? you could walk there in 3 weeks .. |
| 17:30.31 | murble | you could hitchhike there in much less. |
| 17:30.46 | zimm | true .. |
| 17:35.13 | dankolb | :) |
| 17:36.49 | murble | the only problem is ferries. |
| 17:37.26 | dankolb | hitchhiking on ferries? |
| 17:37.36 | murble | well getting on the ferries as a drivers mate. |
| 17:37.42 | murble | much cheaper. |
| 17:40.19 | dankolb | yeah |
| 18:05.50 | dankolb | Anyway, I'm off - will be back later tonight |
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| 18:36.07 | formi | ahem |
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| 18:43.16 | mazogs | hi |
| 18:44.30 | formi | hei |
| 18:51.20 | mazogs | hey formi how are you |
| 18:53.34 | formi | playing around |
| 18:53.57 | formi | pondering if i will swap squid for tinyproxy |
| 18:54.13 | mazogs | for how much longer are you here in London? |
| 18:55.05 | formi | I have no rush to piss off back home, to most gllugers despair |
| 18:56.52 | mazogs | well I mean how much time are you living here |
| 18:58.07 | formi | ok |
| 18:58.27 | formi | 5 years and half a month, officially |
| 18:59.03 | formi | i usually spend 6-9 weeks a year on holidays |
| 19:00.23 | mazogs | did you know the language when you came for the first time? |
| 19:00.34 | formi | better than nowadays, |
| 19:01.42 | mazogs | I am finding very difficult to work here |
| 19:02.14 | formi | to work or to find work? |
| 19:03.14 | mazogs | well, to find a work |
| 19:03.40 | formi | well work in London is never easy to find |
| 19:03.44 | mazogs | any advice on your experience? |
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| 19:03.51 | formi | me |
| 19:03.56 | formi | I don't work |
| 19:04.04 | mazogs | i see |
| 19:04.14 | mazogs | i need to work to stay here |
| 19:04.16 | formi | not much advice can I give you |
| 19:04.30 | formi | david? |
| 19:06.03 | davilion | yes? |
| 19:06.41 | formi | any good advice for foreigners about how to find work in london? |
| 19:06.56 | davilion | hmm. |
| 19:07.04 | davilion | i'm assuming you can work. |
| 19:07.11 | davilion | i mean you have all the tright paperwork etc. |
| 19:07.22 | mazogs | yes i do |
| 19:07.31 | davilion | in which case, start selling your soul to IT agencies, and in the mean time get down to agencies like adecco and do whatever work you can get |
| 19:07.32 | mazogs | i have experience also |
| 19:07.53 | davilion | get a good cv, |
| 19:07.57 | davilion | and get it off to job agencies |
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| 19:08.44 | mazogs | i have a good cv i send a lot applications, but few answers... |
| 19:08.52 | formi | davilion: what do you mean with all the paperwork? |
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| 19:10.32 | davilion | formi: not sure, like right visas etc. |
| 19:10.46 | davilion | i just meant that he was eligible to work here. |
| 19:11.47 | formi | eu people only need a nin |
| 19:12.02 | mazogs | mine is on process |
| 19:12.33 | davilion | nin? |
| 19:12.40 | formi | my one took something like 3 weeks |
| 19:12.42 | davilion | i wasnt sure what you need. |
| 19:12.46 | davilion | ahh nat ins num? |
| 19:12.54 | formi | yeap |
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| 19:37.37 | zachary | evening Jenson |
| 19:38.02 | Jenson | evening zachary |
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| 19:40.05 | Jenson | heya formi |
| 19:40.08 | zachary | evening formi |
| 19:40.20 | zachary | how's everyone tonight? |
| 19:40.37 | formi | I'm SOOO popular |
| 19:40.47 | Jenson | I'm alright thanks |
| 19:40.53 | Jenson | formi: lol |
| 19:41.07 | formi | and your brain jenson? |
| 19:41.31 | Jenson | my brain? i think that's alright too |
| 19:41.42 | formi | you took a long time to check it |
| 19:41.45 | zachary | formi: We're not be concieted are we? |
| 19:42.00 | Jenson | formi is a silly boy zachary :D |
| 19:42.12 | Jenson | Needs someone to teach him how to behave |
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| 19:42.25 | zimm | bleh tvcard bleh |
| 19:42.27 | Jenson | wb zimm hon |
| 19:42.42 | zachary | Jenson: Who to behave? |
| 19:42.46 | formi | beware: Jenson the misstress in on the loose |
| 19:43.07 | Jenson | :P formi |
| 19:43.12 | zimm | :) Jenson |
| 19:45.13 | formi | her weep is probably bigger than her |
| 19:47.12 | Jenson | About the Holocaust? |
| 19:47.27 | zimm | the Armenian genocide .. |
| 19:47.42 | zimm | nice n cheery :-) |
| 19:47.52 | Jenson | zimm: Just like you :) |
| 19:47.56 | zimm | :-P |
| 20:27.28 | ResuDaed | evening all |
| 20:27.58 | Jenson | hey ResuDaed |
| 20:28.14 | zimm | evenin |
| 20:28.42 | zimm | ResuDaed: which version ? |
| 20:29.26 | ResuDaed | 2.4.20 |
| 20:31.00 | ResuDaed | I still didn't manage to get the nvidia driver to compile, due to a incomplete source tree, so I thought may as well re-do the kernel while I'm at it |
| 20:43.10 | Jenson | Well I better get going and do something useful |
| 20:43.26 | ResuDaed | wierd problems ... can't uncompress the bz2 file |
| 20:43.49 | Jenson | ResuDaed: Give up :) |
| 20:44.01 | ResuDaed | am tempted - but also determined to do it |
| 20:44.05 | zimm | ResuDaed: tar xjvf li* |
| 20:44.20 | Jenson | ResuDaed: Call your g/f..she's probably less complicated |
| 20:45.04 | ResuDaed | zimm: I know *how* to decompress a bz2 file :) |
| 20:45.21 | zimm | ok .. just trying to help .. :) |
| 20:45.30 | ResuDaed | just got an error halfway through due to possible corruption ... re-downloaded it same error |
| 20:45.37 | ResuDaed | trying the tar.gz now |
| 20:45.54 | ResuDaed | Jenson: just came back from her house :-) |
| 20:46.26 | Jenson | :) You should be nice and calm then ResuDaed..or horny, but we won't go there |
| 20:46.36 | ResuDaed | lol |
| 20:47.04 | ResuDaed | just bloody knackered - not been sleeping much recently |
| 20:47.28 | ResuDaed | (not meaning to imply anything) |
| 20:47.40 | Jenson | Through choice or difficulty sleeping? |
| 20:47.51 | ResuDaed | arn't they one and the same? |
| 20:48.38 | Jenson | ResuDaed: No, you choose to stay awake by not going to bed (or going to bed and doing non sleeping things) or you go to bed and cant get to sleep |
| 20:49.18 | ResuDaed | or choose to go to bed to sleep and can't get to sleep through someone elses choice |
| 20:49.27 | Jenson | or that ResuDaed |
| 20:49.33 | ResuDaed | anyway - I wasn't implying anything |
| 20:49.41 | Jenson | Yeah you were.... |
| 20:50.02 | Jenson | All I'll say is I hope you had fun :) |
| 20:53.26 | Jenson | Why am I still here |
| 20:53.30 | Clyphox | BACK |
| 20:53.33 | Jenson | I meant to leave 30 mins ago |
| 20:53.37 | ResuDaed | because you love our company so much |
| 20:53.37 | Jenson | wb Clyphox |
| 20:53.38 | Clyphox | hI |
| 20:53.44 | Clyphox | Er.. CaPs |
| 20:54.04 | Clyphox | ResuDaed: I'm beefing up my guitar strings.. |
| 20:54.27 | Clyphox | ResuDaed: Going for the thickest I can get.. Hehe.. nice a grungish.. |
| 20:54.39 | ResuDaed | bass strings? |
| 20:54.46 | Jenson | Clyphox: I've dated 2 guitarists..... |
| 20:54.50 | Clyphox | Nah.. just thick.. |
| 20:55.06 | Clyphox | zimm : I do to. Just experimenting.. |
| 20:55.09 | ResuDaed | Jenson: doesn't surprise ayone :-P |
| 20:55.24 | Jenson | ResuDaed: I've only had 4 boy/fs if you must know |
| 20:55.31 | Clyphox | Jenson : Bass is cool. I will try it too one day.. |
| 20:55.44 | Clyphox | Wow more than me.. |
| 20:55.48 | ResuDaed | Jenson: (joke) |
| 20:55.55 | ResuDaed | Clyphox has had just the one :-) |
| 20:55.56 | Jenson | Clyphox: There a bass in my bedroom......if I ever invite you in :D |
| 20:55.57 | formi | and not enough time to talk about them |
| 20:55.59 | zimm | playing Bass in a band is soo fsckin boring though .. |
| 20:56.10 | Clyphox | ResuDaed : lol |
| 20:56.34 | Clyphox | zimm : I love listening to bass though.. its such an un appreciated thing.. |
| 20:56.48 | ResuDaed | Clyphox : did you lend me some SD-RAM? |
| 20:57.05 | Clyphox | Especially when the Bass is playing different tune but it still fits somehow.. |
| 20:57.09 | zimm | Clyphox: true , and to be a *good* bass player is hard .. i just found it boring ,, |
| 20:57.22 | Clyphox | ResuDaed : I gave you a bag-o-ram thats all I remember.. |
| 20:57.32 | ResuDaed | just one bag? |
| 20:57.34 | Clyphox | zimm : I understand .. |
| 20:57.37 | Jenson | Right I really am leaving |
| 20:57.39 | Jenson | Later guys |
| 20:57.42 | Clyphox | ResuDaed : da |
| 20:57.43 | zimm | laters Jenson |
| 20:57.44 | ResuDaed | later Jenson |
| 20:57.44 | *** part/#gllug Jenson (Jenson@host62-7-2-125.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 20:57.46 | Clyphox | Cya |
| 20:57.52 | formi | don't lend him anything |
| 20:58.03 | formi | he was caught with the sprectrum |
| 20:58.16 | Clyphox | hehe.. He bloody finnished my last thinkgeek ginseng mints hehe.. |
| 20:58.19 | ResuDaed | ok, i thought there was a second - that bag was all EDO, panic over |
| 20:58.25 | Clyphox | (he did need them though ) |
| 20:58.28 | formi | http://unixsex.com/admins/vintage/index2.html |
| 20:59.33 | Clyphox | That is very worrying.. |
| 21:00.07 | ResuDaed | Clyphox : I've just seen the qty of documentation :-( |
| 21:01.02 | Clyphox | qty? |
| 21:01.22 | ResuDaed | quantity |
| 21:01.30 | Clyphox | Its simple and it works.. |
| 21:01.46 | ResuDaed | going to have to switch to X to read it :-( |
| 21:01.54 | ResuDaed | (effort) |
| 21:05.25 | ResuDaed | bloody nvidia |
| 21:06.38 | Tarragon | formi: Just how did you find that website? |
| 21:07.55 | Clyphox | heh |
| 21:09.00 | formi | somebody in the #sparc channel found it |
| 21:09.17 | ResuDaed | Clyphox : can you recommend a doc to start with? |
| 21:09.50 | Clyphox | ResuDaed : For configureing the kernel? |
| 21:10.28 | ResuDaed | the whole thing ... start - end |
| 21:10.43 | ResuDaed | well config is pretty simple to do simply |
| 21:10.49 | Clyphox | There is a readme.. also look at tldp.org |
| 21:15.27 | Clyphox | gtg.. super.. |
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| 22:03.42 | zimm | wb Jenson |
| 22:03.48 | Jenson | ty zimm |
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| 22:09.27 | dankolb | Ahoy |
| 22:09.28 | zimm | hi dankolb |
| 22:09.38 | dankolb | How's it going? |
| 22:10.11 | eye69 | Hi dan |
| 22:10.15 | dankolb | hi eye69 |
| 22:10.19 | zimm | still , bored (and actually watching TV this time ) |
| 22:10.40 | dankolb | Ah. |
| 22:11.04 | eye69 | Seems to work. |
| 22:11.13 | dankolb | But does it work well? |
| 22:11.23 | *** join/#gllug SpudUAway (~Colin@80-193-177-195.cable.ubr01.ca.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 22:11.27 | dankolb | Hi Spud |
| 22:11.45 | Jenson | hey SpudUAway |
| 22:12.05 | SpudULike | Hi all |
| 22:12.06 | Tarragon | Hi SpudULike |
| 22:12.12 | eye69 | dankolb: Yeah, seems to. |
| 22:12.25 | dankolb | That's good, then |
| 22:12.26 | SpudULike | Hi Tarragon |
| 22:12.34 | dankolb | Hey Tarragon |
| 22:12.40 | Tarragon | How did the install go? |
| 22:12.43 | Jenson | hey Tarragon |
| 22:12.44 | eye69 | Sadly I've only got 256kb upstream...you could've seen the result if not. |
| 22:12.52 | Tarragon | Hi Dan - bought tickets yet? |
| 22:12.59 | dankolb | How easy is it to get to the Uni from the Atlas hotel? |
| 22:13.10 | dankolb | Not yet. The hotel wants 100EUR / night for a single room :( |
| 22:13.31 | skugg | hey. |
| 22:13.34 | SpudULike | I have a tent to rent! |
| 22:13.38 | dankolb | Wanna come to FOSDEM? |
| 22:13.39 | Jenson | hey skugg |
| 22:13.56 | skugg | dankolb, yep. got ticket yesterday :) |
| 22:14.00 | dankolb | Cool. |
| 22:14.03 | dankolb | Got a room yet? |
| 22:14.05 | skugg | or, paid for them at least. |
| 22:14.10 | skugg | yes, got room too. |
| 22:14.13 | dankolb | Hm |
| 22:14.18 | dankolb | Where? |
| 22:14.42 | skugg | dunno... John H. took care of it... The hotel that was "the official" hotel last year I think. |
| 22:15.00 | dankolb | Hm |
| 22:15.14 | Tarragon | Hotel Ibis last year. |
| 22:15.21 | dankolb | 100EUR/night is a bit much, really - I might have to end up in a youth hostel |
| 22:15.45 | zimm | whats that in real money >? |
| 22:15.46 | skugg | i think I share a double room with John to cut costs |
| 22:15.57 | Tarragon | Oh you cannot do that. All the LBW people go there. |
| 22:15.59 | dankolb | zimm: About 70quid |
| 22:16.12 | zimm | dankolb: fsck that .. buy a tent |
| 22:16.34 | dankolb | Or stay in a youth hostel - a friend is staying there |
| 22:16.50 | skugg | hm. |
| 22:17.07 | dankolb | have fun |
| 22:19.37 | Tarragon | SpudULike: Did you go with the Slack or the Deb? |
| 22:22.09 | SpudULike | Ha - SuSE ownz me! |
| 22:22.24 | dankolb | :) |
| 22:22.35 | ResuDaed | laters all |
| 22:22.40 | dankolb | Bye ResuDaed |
| 22:22.42 | Jenson | cya ResuDaed |
| 22:22.48 | Tarragon | Bye |
| 22:22.50 | Jenson | ResuDaed: Get some sleep. |
| 22:22.59 | ResuDaed | not likley :-) |
| 22:23.06 | zimm | laters ResuDaed |
| 22:23.14 | Jenson | lol ResuDaed OK |
| 22:23.42 | ResuDaed | not like that Jenson, I am going for a drink |
| 22:23.45 | ResuDaed | bye |
| 22:23.52 | Jenson | :) |
| 22:24.10 | dankolb | But last orders is in 6 minuts |
| 22:24.11 | dankolb | *minutes |
| 22:25.12 | Jenson | He didn't say what he'd be drinking dankolb |
| 22:25.42 | dankolb | true |
| 22:26.00 | zimm | battery acid ? |
| 22:26.34 | Jenson | zimm: Knowing you, you've tried that. |
| 22:27.04 | zimm | acid , yes , battery acid , no |
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| 22:27.24 | Jenson | Ah, but you don't drink acid. |
| 22:27.27 | Jenson | hey Axel |
| 22:27.28 | dankolb | Hi Axel |
| 22:27.46 | Axel | hi |
| 22:28.12 | zimm | Jenson: how do you think they get it on the tabs ? its a liquid ...(well it is once you dissolve the crystals) |
| 22:29.21 | Jenson | zimm: Can't say I've really experimented with drugs |
| 22:29.52 | zimm | heh, yeh , i know .. just sayin .. |
| 22:30.09 | SpudULike | Isn't experimenting with Slackware just as dangerous as drugs? |
| 22:30.14 | dankolb | It is |
| 22:30.25 | zimm | SpudULike: equivalent to crack i believe |
| 22:35.13 | Axel | may i throw a n00b question in the room? just a quicky ;) |
| 22:35.31 | Tarragon | So you would not recommend Slack then? :-) |
| 22:35.43 | Jenson | yeah Axel |
| 22:35.46 | Axel | thx |
| 22:35.50 | dankolb | Tarragon: I recommend Slack |
| 22:36.07 | Tarragon | No you don't - you recommend BSD |
| 22:36.11 | Axel | I'm trying to mount my fat32 partition... wondering whether my fstab entry holds up :) |
| 22:36.27 | Axel | /dev/hdb3 /data vfat defaults,user |
| 22:36.32 | Axel | :D |
| 22:36.52 | dankolb | Tarragon: Well, true |
| 22:37.15 | dankolb | Axel: /dev/hdb3 /data vfat defaults,user 0 0 |
| 22:37.20 | Axel | ah |
| 22:37.54 | Axel | i've created directory in /mnt called /data ... will it mount there or do i need to put the /mnt in front of it? |
| 22:38.05 | dankolb | You do |
| 22:38.15 | dankolb | Because it tells you what directory you want to mount in |
| 22:38.23 | Axel | ah |
| 22:38.25 | Axel | hmm |
| 22:38.44 | Axel | do i have to restart to make it work? |
| 22:38.57 | Axel | or can i just rehash something or other? |
| 22:39.11 | dankolb | mount /mnt/data |
| 22:39.13 | Axel | i've currently got it mounted - but as root only |
| 22:39.18 | dankolb | Ah |
| 22:39.27 | dankolb | Unmount it as root, and mount it as a user |
| 22:39.39 | Axel | darn - says dev is busy ;( |
| 22:39.47 | dankolb | But if you want it user-mountable, you want to use 'noauto' option, which won't mount it automatically |
| 22:40.18 | Axel | i want it to be there when i come back, so auto would be nice :) |
| 22:40.23 | stephen | it's okay if you everything specified in /etc/fstab |
| 22:40.34 | stephen | otherwise it can be a real bitch |
| 22:40.42 | dankolb | Axel: If it's automatically mounted, you don't need it user-mountable |
| 22:40.47 | Axel | uhm |
| 22:40.54 | Axel | /dev/hdb3 /data vfat defaults,user,auto 0 0 |
| 22:41.01 | Axel | that's what i looks like now |
| 22:41.15 | Axel | shall i get rid of the user then and leave the auto? |
| 22:41.37 | dankolb | No, get rid of both |
| 22:41.39 | Axel | k |
| 22:41.50 | Axel | so it's just defaults then? |
| 22:41.52 | dankolb | Yup |
| 22:41.54 | Axel | and 0 0 |
| 22:41.56 | dankolb | Yup |
| 22:42.02 | Axel | and it's gonna be rw? |
| 22:42.05 | dankolb | Unless you want it checked at mount-time |
| 22:42.13 | Axel | checked? |
| 22:42.16 | dankolb | It should be. Although you might need to specify the umask option |
| 22:42.16 | dankolb | fsck |
| 22:42.20 | Axel | ah |
| 22:42.28 | Axel | what does that do? |
| 22:42.30 | dankolb | By default, it'll probably mount it so only root can read/write to it |
| 22:43.02 | Axel | umask=022 ? |
| 22:43.17 | dankolb | That makes it root r/w |
| 22:43.23 | Axel | oops |
| 22:43.35 | dankolb | If you want it world writable, then umask=000 should work |
| 22:44.47 | Axel | k |
| 22:45.30 | Axel | why does it still say the dev is busy and how can i convince him to umount it? |
| 22:46.05 | dankolb | Do you have anything using anything on /mnt/data ? |
| 22:46.11 | Axel | hmm |
| 22:46.24 | Jenson | Axel: If your like me you probably have the browser for the /mnt dir loaded |
| 22:46.37 | Axel | yep |
| 22:46.38 | Axel | sec |
| 22:46.58 | Axel | lol |
| 22:47.08 | Axel | i was still in the /data with the console... |
| 22:47.09 | Axel | doh |
| 22:47.12 | dankolb | Ah :) |
| 22:47.34 | Axel | hmm |
| 22:47.35 | Axel | root@eden:/mnt# mount /mnt/data |
| 22:47.35 | Axel | [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab |
| 22:47.44 | Axel | final newline? |
| 22:47.50 | Axel | wth is that supposed to mean? |
| 22:48.01 | dankolb | Exactly what it says |
| 22:48.08 | dankolb | Edit it, and put a newline at the end |
| 22:48.11 | Axel | right |
| 22:49.01 | stephen | echo "" >> /etc/fstab should work i think |
| 22:49.17 | dankolb | :-) |
| 22:49.19 | Axel | stephen: what does that do? |
| 22:49.28 | dankolb | Puts a blank line in, basically |
| 22:49.31 | Axel | ah |
| 22:49.32 | stephen | adds the required new line |
| 22:49.34 | Axel | thx |
| 22:49.43 | stephen | but you'd obviously already done it ;) |
| 22:49.52 | Axel | Jenson ;) |
| 22:49.57 | Axel | yeah |
| 22:49.59 | dankolb | You like the /mnt dir? |
| 22:50.00 | dankolb | Well? |
| 22:50.04 | Axel | that was pretty easy :) |
| 22:50.09 | Axel | nope |
| 22:50.16 | Jenson | dankolb: I like it now I know how to access the FD lol |
| 22:50.23 | zimm | Jenson: lol |
| 22:50.27 | Axel | uhm |
| 22:50.38 | Axel | are you using KDE or Gnome? |
| 22:50.46 | Jenson | KDE |
| 22:50.47 | Axel | if so, there should be an icon on your desktop |
| 22:50.58 | Axel | just right click it and tell him to mount it |
| 22:51.03 | SpudULike | L8ers guys. |
| 22:51.11 | Axel | l8rs |
| 22:51.18 | stephen | zimm: d'oh |
| 22:51.33 | Jenson | Axel: Yeah I know....it took me about a month to work that out |
| 22:51.36 | Axel | dankolb: how do i make it /data insted of /mnt/data? do i need to create a new directory in / ? |
| 22:51.45 | Jenson | I havent really used Linux otherwise |
| 22:51.50 | Axel | :) |
| 22:51.52 | dankolb | mkdir /data |
| 22:51.56 | Jenson | BTW...can I ask a newbie question too? |
| 22:51.57 | dankolb | And edit fstab to mount it in /data |
| 22:52.04 | zimm | stephen: hehe , yeh ,, gonna have to put my essays up on http , then save re-edit and print at uni now :-( |
| 22:52.05 | dankolb | :) |
| 22:52.10 | Axel | dankolb: in / |
| 22:52.11 | Axel | ? |
| 22:52.33 | dankolb | The / in front of it will put it in / |
| 22:52.35 | Axel | helps a lot when you want to print out things |
| 22:52.38 | Axel | k |
| 22:52.39 | stephen | zimm: 'cos i'm actually at uni, i can ftp into the uni's servers and access my home directory from here ;) |
| 22:52.51 | zimm | stephen: nice .. |
| 22:52.57 | zimm | stephen: which uni ? |
| 22:53.00 | stephen | brookes |
| 22:53.06 | stephen | you? |
| 22:53.19 | zimm | stephen: ahh , yeh i applied there .. tehy err told me to piss off ., lol |
| 22:53.54 | zimm | stephen: studied comp sci and philosophy at keele last year , straigh phil at Greenwich this year |
| 22:54.14 | Axel | dankolb: thx - works :) |
| 22:54.22 | stephen | cool - i've got a friend at keele this year, can't remember what he's studying though |
| 22:54.27 | Jenson | Is Keele in Stoke zimm? |
| 22:54.39 | zimm | stephen: keele is the biggest shithole on the planet |
| 22:54.46 | zimm | Jenson: yeah just outside stoke |
| 22:54.47 | stephen | Axel: did you restart KDE? |
| 22:54.54 | stephen | zimm: oh |
| 22:55.03 | dankolb | Axel: You're welcome |
| 22:55.03 | Jenson | zimm: My mother went to teaching college at Keele.... |
| 22:55.04 | Axel | uhm... |
| 22:55.20 | Axel | thanks stephen |
| 22:55.51 | Axel | who is using debian in here? |
| 22:55.51 | stephen | did it actually work - lol |
| 22:56.00 | Axel | dunno - haven't restarted yet :) |
| 22:56.09 | zimm | stephen: it used to be a good uni ,, but its basically a conference park that hands out degree's these days .. the students appear to be somewhat of an inmconvenience to them .. |
| 22:56.11 | dankolb | Axel: Only silly people |
| 22:56.18 | Axel | :) |
| 22:56.30 | dankolb | :) |
| 22:56.33 | zimm | debian is goooood |
| 22:56.34 | Axel | hehe |
| 22:56.42 | dankolb | Debian is evil |
| 22:56.50 | Axel | zimm: may i query you a little apt-get error msg? |
| 22:56.55 | Axel | LOL |
| 22:57.01 | dankolb | Axel: Just put it on here |
| 22:57.11 | Axel | uhm |
| 22:57.12 | Axel | k |
| 22:57.15 | Axel | --- |
| 22:57.15 | Tarragon | ibot lart Axel |
| 22:57.16 | Axel | root@eden:/mnt# apt-get install galeon |
| 22:57.16 | Axel | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 22:57.16 | Axel | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 22:57.16 | Axel | Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have |
| 22:57.16 | Axel | requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable |
| 22:57.18 | Axel | distribution that some required packages have not yet been created |
| 22:57.20 | Axel | or been moved out of Incoming. |
| 22:57.22 | Axel | Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that |
| 22:57.24 | Axel | the package is simply not installable and a bug report against |
| 22:57.25 | Jenson | ibot Axel |
| 22:57.25 | | Jenson: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 22:57.26 | dankolb | Axel: Nothing much is wrong with Debian |
| 22:57.26 | Axel | that package should be filed. |
| 22:57.28 | Axel | The following information may help to resolve the situation: |
| 22:57.30 | Axel | Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 22:57.32 | Axel | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:57.35 | Jenson | ibot axel is a silly person |
| 22:57.36 | | Jenson: okay |
| 22:57.36 | Axel | eye69: Sorry, broken packages |
| 22:57.38 | Axel | --- |
| 22:57.40 | Axel | LOL |
| 22:57.41 | Jenson | ibot axel |
| 22:57.42 | | from memory, axel is a silly person |
| 22:57.42 | Axel | thanks |
| 22:57.46 | Axel | hi |
| 22:57.54 | Axel | yeah, that's probably me alright |
| 22:58.01 | Axel | hi Tarragon |
| 22:58.02 | Jenson | Axel: Mine is worse |
| 22:58.04 | dankolb | Are you using Debian unstable? |
| 22:58.11 | Axel | dunno tbh |
| 22:58.15 | Tarragon | ibot Axel is someone who should be shot with paint pellets |
| 22:58.15 | | ...but axel is already something else... |
| 22:58.24 | Axel | yes, i am using unstable |
| 22:58.29 | Axel | hehe |
| 22:58.33 | Jenson | Tarragon: ibot Axel is also |
| 22:58.39 | zimm | Axel: you just asked it to install Galeon ? |
| 22:58.47 | Tarragon | ibot Axel is also someone who should be shot with paint pellets |
| 22:58.47 | | Tarragon: okay |
| 22:58.50 | dankolb | Axel: Ah. That's why. |
| 22:58.55 | dankolb | It's probably broken at the moment |
| 22:58.57 | Axel | zimm: yes |
| 22:59.00 | Jenson | ibot Jenson |
| 22:59.01 | | hmm... jenson is a geek girl, or not in London, or a little crazy, or killing her computer on a regular basis, or innocent and clean-minded, or not, or any number of other things, or having a lot of things added to her profile by the naughty geek guys, or also adding them herself. Red Bull makes her hot, or a Slackware user (or pretends she has the slightest clue what she's doing) |
| 22:59.03 | zimm | Axel: works for me |
| 22:59.23 | Axel | hehe |
| 22:59.27 | zimm | Axel: i wont paste it , but it found all the deps ok .. |
| 22:59.32 | dankolb | ibot dankolb |
| 22:59.32 | | somebody said dankolb was not a bot, or hates BTinternet, or a horse, or has a FreeBSD fetish |
| 22:59.42 | Axel | zimm: what? |
| 22:59.43 | Jenson | Axel: Don't ask about the 'Red Bull' part, cupis added that. |
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| 22:59.52 | Axel | ibot: LOL |
| 22:59.53 | | i heard lol is a acronym that stands for Laugh Out Loud. Go to http://mankindvsme.50megs.com/windowsfan.html for more information. |
| 22:59.53 | dankolb | Hi Dave |
| 22:59.56 | Clyphox | re |
| 22:59.56 | Axel | hi Clyphox |
| 23:00.03 | Jenson | wb Clyphox |
| 23:00.05 | Clyphox | Axel.. ltns |
| 23:00.07 | Axel | thanks ibot |
| 23:00.09 | Clyphox | Thanks Jenson |
| 23:00.32 | Axel | Clyphox: ltns? :/ |
| 23:00.43 | dankolb | ibot ltns |
| 23:00.44 | | "Long Time No See" |
| 23:00.47 | Clyphox | Long Time No See |
| 23:00.54 | Clyphox | ohh.. |
| 23:01.24 | Axel | ahhhhh |
| 23:01.36 | Axel | d'oh |
| 23:01.40 | Axel | ibot doh |
| 23:01.41 | | Axel: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 23:01.45 | Axel | ibot d'oh |
| 23:01.45 | | (_8(|) |
| 23:01.51 | Jenson | lol |
| 23:01.53 | Jenson | Homer! |
| 23:01.56 | dankolb | Ooh. Dr. Who on BBC7 |
| 23:02.02 | Axel | ? |
| 23:02.04 | Axel | where? |
| 23:02.06 | Axel | ah |
| 23:02.08 | Axel | 7 LOL |
| 23:02.08 | dankolb | www.bbc.co.uk/bbc7 |
| 23:02.17 | Axel | geez... digitall... ey |
| 23:02.19 | dankolb | Jon Pertwee, too |
| 23:02.24 | dankolb | Axel: And RealPlayer |
| 23:02.35 | Axel | ah |
| 23:02.38 | *** join/#gllug SpudUAway (~Colin@80-193-177-195.cable.ubr01.ca.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 23:02.43 | dankolb | Yeah, well |
| 23:02.44 | Axel | hi SpudAway |
| 23:02.46 | Jenson | wb SpudUAway |
| 23:02.47 | Tarragon | wb |
| 23:02.49 | dankolb | wb |
| 23:03.27 | SpudUAway | Hi guys, err excuse me. |
| 23:03.27 | Tarragon | SpudUAway: Do the drivers work? |
| 23:05.50 | dankolb | Axel: have you 'apt-get update'd? |
| 23:06.08 | Axel | yup |
| 23:06.08 | Axel | that worked |
| 23:06.11 | dankolb | And try again |
| 23:06.55 | *** join/#gllug SpudUAway (~Colin@80-193-177-195.cable.ubr01.ca.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 23:06.55 | Axel | again? i just did it 2min ago :) |
| 23:06.59 | Jenson | re SpudUAway |
| 23:07.38 | dankolb | Ah |
| 23:07.39 | dankolb | :) |
| 23:07.47 | SpudUAway | Cough. |
| 23:07.52 | SpudUAway | Err, hi. |
| 23:07.56 | Axel | hi |
| 23:08.37 | dankolb | Axel: You've probably hit some brokenness |
| 23:08.39 | dankolb | Try again alter |
| 23:08.40 | dankolb | *later |
| 23:09.12 | zimm | dankolb: nah its his box , it works fine for me on sid |
| 23:09.19 | Axel | dankolb: k |
| 23:09.26 | dankolb | Oh, okay |
| 23:09.28 | Axel | hmm |
| 23:09.29 | skugg | SpudUAway, managed to get the stuff refunded yesterday -- was looking for you at ucl after i got back. |
| 23:09.32 | dankolb | Is sid unstable?? |
| 23:09.46 | skugg | dankolb, yesh. |
| 23:09.48 | skugg | :) |
| 23:10.06 | dankolb | Okay :) |
| 23:10.59 | SpudUAway | Skugg: Ah, no I knew exactly what I wanted and where to get it, so I was only there a few minutes. |
| 23:11.54 | SpudUAway | I saw a boxed set of RedHat 6.0 for £30. |
| 23:12.00 | *** join/#gllug ^Plasma^ (none@modem-867.arbok.dialup.pol.co.uk) |
| 23:12.04 | dankolb | Expensive |
| 23:12.09 | dankolb | Hello ^Plasma^ |
| 23:12.19 | Jenson | hey ^Plasma^ |
| 23:12.33 | ^Plasma^ | hiyaz |
| 23:12.40 | *** part/#gllug ^Plasma^ (none@modem-867.arbok.dialup.pol.co.uk) |
| 23:12.48 | dankolb | Hm |
| 23:12.50 | Clyphox | weird.. |
| 23:12.52 | dankolb | Yeah |
| 23:13.02 | Jenson | hehehe Win98 user |
| 23:13.08 | zimm | lol , he's following me ... |
| 23:13.10 | dankolb | HEh |
| 23:13.12 | Jenson | Using mIRC |
| 23:13.17 | skugg | SpudUAway, okay. i was going to the hope aftewards, so I was going to ask whether you wanted to join me. |
| 23:13.23 | SpudUAway | Hey, SuperBowl is on Channel 5. what is this bollocks all about????? |
| 23:13.33 | Jenson | I think I scared him off by CTCP versioning him |
| 23:13.36 | dankolb | Heh |
| 23:13.50 | zimm | Jenson: nah , he's just trying to piss me off |
| 23:13.57 | dankolb | Heh |
| 23:14.02 | Jenson | Put a follow blocker on him |
| 23:14.33 | SpudUAway | Skugg: Ah, you should have said. I couldn't stay, but Rachel would have let you buy her a drink. |
| 23:14.47 | skugg | :) |
| 23:15.09 | skugg | SpudUAway, i forgot, but remembered again when i came back. that's why i tried to find you. |
| 23:15.45 | SpudUAway | Do others still meet on a Saturday in the Hope. |
| 23:16.47 | SpudUAway | Hmm, 3 minutes of SuperBowl and already I feel more than slightly sick.. |
| 23:16.51 | skugg | i haven't been there in months at least. |
| 23:17.18 | dankolb | SuperBowl? Sounds like a big soup-eating contest |
| 23:17.20 | skugg | amateur. i didn't even bother turning on :P |
| 23:17.49 | skugg | dankolb, indeed. |
| 23:17.52 | Jenson | dankolb: You've seen too much Tarrant On TV |
| 23:18.13 | dankolb | Yeah. Leech-eating |
| 23:19.22 | dankolb | Or Ox shit |
| 23:19.29 | Jenson | ewwww yeah |
| 23:19.41 | SpudUAway | Hmmm, nutty! |
| 23:20.39 | dankolb | Yeah |
| 23:20.55 | Clyphox | They have an average IQ of 100. it explains alot |
| 23:21.01 | Clyphox | (j/k) |
| 23:21.06 | dankolb | Clyphox: Yeah, true |
| 23:21.26 | dankolb | Clyphox: I'm just used to being around intelligent people |
| 23:21.29 | dankolb | (like all of us here :) |
| 23:21.34 | Clyphox | [nod] |
| 23:21.48 | Clyphox | geeks are a breed unto their own.. |
| 23:21.49 | Jenson | I have a IQ of 97 excuse me! |
| 23:21.56 | dankolb | Jenson: You have a much higher IQ |
| 23:21.59 | Jenson | According to BBC |
| 23:22.05 | dankolb | You weren't doing it properly |
| 23:22.06 | Jenson | And I wasn't concentrating |
| 23:22.12 | dankolb | Exactly |
| 23:22.19 | Jenson | According to MENSA tests I have an IQ of 152 |
| 23:22.22 | Clyphox | hehe.. According to that I was 107 or something.. and I am definatly NOT |
| 23:22.39 | dankolb | (mainly because I never quite got the hang of them) |
| 23:22.39 | Clyphox | mensa is just status crud |
| 23:22.42 | dankolb | Yeah |
| 23:22.54 | dankolb | There isn't any definitive IQ test |
| 23:22.54 | Clyphox | the stuff you put on CV's |
| 23:23.15 | dankolb | You just need to do various tests when you're in a good, concentrating, state of mind, and take an average |
| 23:23.24 | zimm | mensa ? |
| 23:23.26 | Clyphox | There isn't even a fixed idea as to what intellegence really is.. |
| 23:23.27 | zimm | boring ... |
| 23:23.31 | dankolb | Clyphox: Yeah |
| 23:23.36 | Jenson | I know I'm dumb thats all that matters |
| 23:23.41 | Clyphox | lol |
| 23:23.45 | dankolb | Jenson: You're not dumb, dammit |
| 23:23.48 | Clyphox | Can't get worse that way hehe |
| 23:23.49 | zimm | Jenson: shut up , you arefnt .. |
| 23:24.13 | dankolb | I'd say that intelligence is the ability to learn/adapt to new situations |
| 23:24.35 | dankolb | And also, partly, the ability to see outside your own point of view |
| 23:24.40 | Clyphox | dankolb : Then 80% of the population would flunk hehe |
| 23:24.49 | dankolb | Clyphox: Well, that's true, though, isn't it? |
| 23:24.56 | dankolb | About 80% of people seem stupid? |
| 23:25.06 | Clyphox | to me yup.. |
| 23:25.17 | dankolb | To me too |
| 23:25.18 | Clyphox | Its a bell shapes graph if you look at ir.. |
| 23:25.28 | dankolb | That's because that's how it's defined |
| 23:25.32 | Clyphox | ++shaped |
| 23:25.35 | dankolb | It's defined to be the Normal distribution curve |
| 23:25.36 | Clyphox | [nod] |
| 23:25.45 | dankolb | With a mean of 100 |
| 23:25.59 | skugg | http://www.datejesus.com/ |
| 23:26.15 | SpudUAway | Hi dank. |
| 23:26.23 | SpudUAway | ;-) |
| 23:26.25 | zimm | dankolb: tehy are weird |
| 23:26.36 | Clyphox | I think alot of so called intelligence is also the ammount of determination. You don't have to be smart to make it in this work. Just push hard and don't give up/ |
| 23:26.37 | dankolb | Yeah |
| 23:26.49 | dankolb | Clyphox: Partly |
| 23:27.07 | dankolb | But you have to have some degree of smartness to know that you might have to push yourself |
| 23:27.18 | Clyphox | To learn is a skill I mean..but not entirely given. You can learn to learn if you try.. (I think) |
| 23:27.19 | dankolb | The truly wise man knows that he knows not |
| 23:27.31 | Clyphox | true true.. |
| 23:27.41 | Clyphox | A skill I don't have is shutting up. |
| 23:27.45 | dankolb | Hehe :) |
| 23:28.38 | dankolb | Nothing wrong with talking |
| 23:28.47 | formi | Clyphox: does it run in the family? |
| 23:28.52 | Clyphox | I have to do my CV.. its been my task all weekend.. arg.. ust focus. |
| 23:29.09 | dankolb | CVs are nasty to do |
| 23:29.36 | skugg | yes. |
| 23:29.41 | skugg | that reminds me... |
| 23:29.57 | Clyphox | formi : Definatly.. same as alot of genetic traits.. like temprement/attitude.. (how much of this is down to upbringing I dunno) |
| 23:30.18 | Clyphox | skugg : Could I have a look at yours? |
| 23:30.37 | Clyphox | skugg : For ideas... |
| 23:32.46 | Clyphox | dankolb : what did you use to make the pdf btw? got any quick start tips for latex? |
| 23:33.11 | dankolb | Clyphox: ps2pdf |
| 23:33.17 | dankolb | And, yes, I do have quick-start tips |
| 23:34.34 | skugg | Clyphox, brautaset.org/docs/cv.{dvi,pdf} |
| 23:34.45 | dankolb | Clyphox: Should I just send you my LaTeX source? |
| 23:34.53 | Clyphox | ok :) |
| 23:35.06 | Clyphox | I have latex installed if thats what you mean.. |
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| 23:37.35 | Jenson | hi cupis |
| 23:37.42 | dankolb | hi cupis |
| 23:37.47 | cupis | hi Jenson |
| 23:37.49 | cupis | hi dankolb |
| 23:37.57 | cupis | how are we? |
| 23:38.03 | dankolb | We are fine, thank you |
| 23:38.16 | cupis | good to hear. |
| 23:38.18 | Clyphox | cupis : havn't for my ipchains firewall quite right yet.. :( no /dcc get for me I'm afraid |
| 23:38.28 | skugg | the LaTeX source for my cv is a mess... it's closed source (out of embarrassedment) until i get that cleaned up ;) |
| 23:38.44 | dankolb | Clyphox: Fule. modprobe masq_irc |
| 23:38.48 | cupis | Clyphox: ipchains? still on kernel 2.2? |
| 23:38.55 | dankolb | Clyphox: Email address? |
| 23:39.12 | Clyphox | dankolb : david@starkfamily.net |
| 23:39.30 | dankolb | Sent |
| 23:39.39 | Clyphox | cupis : 2.4 I never had time to master iptables (or ipchains to be honest) |
| 23:39.42 | dankolb | (don't reply to it, because it most likely won't work) |
| 23:39.49 | dankolb | Clyphox: Use OpenBSD. Obviously |
| 23:39.54 | cupis | Clyphox: are you configing manually? |
| 23:40.11 | Clyphox | cupis : I wrote it yeah.. |
| 23:40.27 | cupis | do you have ip_nat_irc loaded? |
| 23:40.40 | cupis | oh, that's iptables, nm |
| 23:40.50 | Clyphox | cupis : nope. I rarely have any need. |
| 23:41.15 | cupis | Clyphox: you are not masq-ing? |
| 23:41.22 | Clyphox | dankolb : My next server may well be a bsd.. |
| 23:41.38 | dankolb | Good :) |
| 23:42.04 | Clyphox | cupis : huh? yeah its a little router.. |
| 23:44.11 | cupis | Clyphox: tried modprobe ip_masq_irc and reloading your firewall? |
| 23:44.44 | Clyphox | cupis : I didn't compile that into my kernel. |
| 23:45.01 | cupis | Clyphox: not even as a module? |
| 23:45.41 | Clyphox | cupis : no.. Like I said I rarely need to receive dcc and its not worth the effort.. |
| 23:45.55 | Clyphox | (its a 486/dx1) |
| 23:46.44 | cupis | ah, I misread a previous comment. Ignore me. |
| 23:46.51 | Clyphox | Its ok.. :) |
| 23:47.15 | cupis | not you, dankolb. You till have to listeb to my ramblings. |
| 23:47.22 | dankolb | Damn :) |
| 23:47.26 | cupis | s/listeb/listen/ |
| 23:47.34 | dankolb | s/till/still/ |
| 23:47.56 | cupis | dankolb: okay, you win |
| 23:47.58 | dankolb | :) |
| 23:58.30 | Clyphox | dankolb : Your D.O.B. isn't on your CV btw... |
| 23:58.38 | dankolb | Clyphox: Isn't it? |
| 23:58.58 | dankolb | Oh well. I guess it wasn't that important |
| 23:59.01 | Jenson | Yeah it is |
| 23:59.04 | Jenson | I think |
| 23:59.37 | dankolb | Not overly |