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00:00.05dankolbSet up LP :)
00:00.27ResuDaedis lp not text based printing?
00:00.42dankolbIt's a stream of bytes
00:00.58cupisResuDaed: either set up printing on your linux box, or print the document from an appropriate program on the Windows box.
00:01.08ResuDaedah ... therefore could pipe it to an smb mount that is the printer?
00:01.59cupisResuDaed: yes, if the input to the printer share is of a form that the printer/Windows printer driver can understand
00:02.33ResuDaedis there not a way to emulate an smbmount as an lpt?
00:02.42dankolbDon't think so
00:03.03cupiscat file | smbclient //windows/printershare -U username -P
00:03.15dankolbI'd just print to a .PS file, then use ghostscript to convert it into the HP printer language
00:03.24cupisbut the printer/driver must be able to understand the file
00:03.50cupisI'd just install cupsys-client and cupsys-bsd and config cups
00:04.36cupis(and maybe gimpprint/foomatic/cupsomatic as appropriate)
00:04.46ResuDaedmaybe I save to word doc and find out how another time :-
00:04.47ResuDaed)
00:04.56ResuDaedmuch easier
00:05.07ResuDaedshame though
00:05.13dankolbYeah
00:05.41cupis<ResuDaed> ... (I have never (and will probably never agin) need to print form linux
00:06.44ResuDaedah, but, someone else using a system I may one day administer may need for some reason to print
00:06.49ResuDaed(actually what is happening here)
00:07.22ResuDaedapparantly many industries and educational establishments still use trees for the storage of human readable data
00:07.33JensonWell I gotta go
00:07.37dankolbnight Jenson
00:07.43Jensonnight all
00:07.45JensonSee ya tomorrow
00:07.54cupisnight Jenson
00:08.00ResuDaednight Jenson
00:08.05ResuDaedmissed
00:08.07dankolbheh
00:15.46ResuDaedI could write a perl script on the windows box to listen on a certain tcp port and send bit by bit to the lpt
00:16.11dankolb:)
00:16.22ResuDaednight
00:16.26dankolbnight
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00:34.53eye69Apparently my machine is just fast enough to encode with lavc/mjpeg and mp3lame preset "standard"
00:35.08eye69If I try preset "extreme" it bails out after a while
00:42.08dankolbnight
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08:02.55ResuDaedmorning all (anyone) : what are the exact definitions of 1st/2nd/3rd line tech-support?
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08:49.40zacharygood morning
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08:54.02ResuDaednight all ... I'm off to bed :-)
08:55.54zacharygood night ResuDaed
08:56.19ResuDaedzachary : quick one ... do you know the difference between 1st/2dn/3rd line tech' support?
08:58.06zacharysorry, I  do not.
08:58.06dank_workMorning
08:58.11zacharyMorning
08:58.30dank_work1st line support is the one that everyone calls first
08:59.48dank_work2st line support is what people get passed to if 1st line can't resolve their call
08:59.56dank_work3rd line is, well, the next stage up
09:00.43ResuDaedso progressivly more difficult queries from 1st -> 3rd
09:01.03dank_workYeah
09:01.07ResuDaedthanks
09:01.12ResuDaednight again
09:01.15dank_workUnless 1st line so demoralises the caller, that they don't bother calling
09:01.20dank_worknight? At 9am?
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09:42.50dav9600alco_fuelibot seen leeds
09:42.50leeds <~richardc@vmlinuz.fsnet.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 1d 18h 42m 41s ago, saying: 'hi air1'.
09:43.15dank_workhi slow person
09:43.16dav9600baulgah, never a local in the ch\nnel when i need one.
09:43.19dank_work:)
09:44.11dav9600baulhiya
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09:44.37dav9600baudfor some reason none of the computer shoppe's in leeds in yell.co.uk know what a hard disk is
09:45.00dav9600baudi've tried translating it into northern and they still don't know
09:45.02dav9600baudcould be my accent.
09:46.42dav9600baudhows it going dan?
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10:26.50stephenwb Axel
10:41.00dank_workhi hi
10:44.10Axelhi
10:47.39StuartC_no problems here, and no ticket emails
10:48.29dank_workstephen: Blame OUCS. Everyone else does
10:49.03stephenlol - but i think their connection to JANet is separate from ours
10:49.13dank_workno
10:49.23dank_workBrookes connection goes in at the OUCS router
10:49.37stephenoh okay
10:50.26stephenthat's like the second time in a week that that has happened :(
10:52.34Axelhmm
10:52.51Axelthx StuartC_
11:01.56TarragonWell we really need Leeds to do the translation. Hard Disk -> 'Ard bloody disk thing/Disk tyke/One o' them expensive little metal boxes from those soft southern bast...    You get the idea
11:11.06highbury:-)
11:11.35highburybut he talks too posh to really come from Leeds!
11:12.37TarragonTux return surely?
12:01.37Tarragon:-( Quite liked Dr_Claw - had that air of evil megalomaniac about to take over the world.
12:05.07StuartCheh
12:05.20StuartCit's my quakenet nick :)
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12:13.37davilionhiya
12:13.55zacharyhi davilion
12:14.14dank_workHi dav
12:14.21dank_workBack on a normal connection again?
12:14.43davilionyeah, super janet
12:15.05davilionfinally, i can sort out all the things on my laptop which require downloading more than a couple of k
12:15.13davilionhows things you end?
12:17.31dank_work:-)
12:17.39dank_workThey're okay. Fighting a bit with Samba.
12:17.50dank_workTurns out we needed to change authentication from DOMAIN to SERVER, and it works
12:17.59dank_workJust need to copy lots of data across :)
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12:20.34davilionits been a while since i've used samba, i need to get back into it, its so damn useful
12:21.29dank_workOnly if you have Windows machines.
12:21.33dank_workWhich, of course, you shouldn't have :)
12:23.25davilioni dont have any windows machines at present, except on one laptop i have win98 in a vmware session thingy
12:23.46davilionbut im doing a lot of work using windows software, so sooner or later im going to need it
12:24.34dank_workHeh
12:31.51Huhnhi
12:31.55dank_workhi
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12:37.08Davilionthats better, got my laptop back
12:39.19dank_work:-)
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12:49.41zacharyhi jenson
12:49.44jensonhey zachary
12:58.14Davilionhi jenson
13:01.38Davilionibot ping jenson
13:01.39Davilion: I give up, what is it?
13:01.50jensonHey Dave
13:01.55jensonI gotta go
13:02.00jensonPeople need computers
13:02.02Davilionheh ok.
13:02.13jensonDan and Dave.... if you wanna talk...call me :)
13:03.39dank_workDoesn't really help if her phone's on divert, though, does it?
13:06.00Davilioni guess it wouldnt
13:06.23Davilionwhat you need is an owl.
13:06.28dank_workAn owl?
13:06.35Davilionyeah they are very persistant apparently
13:06.48Davilionjust write her a note, give it to your owl and send it off
13:06.53dank_workHehe
13:06.57dank_workI sent her a text
13:07.07dank_workWhether she'll actually read it is another matter :)
13:07.08Davilionoh yeah, you could send her a txt
13:07.13Davilionheh
13:07.17dank_workIt's the modern-day version of an owlk
13:08.50dank_workShe's eating anyway
13:09.05Davilionmmmm food.
13:09.11Davilioni havent eaten
13:09.20dank_workI have sandwiches here
13:09.44dank_workcat5 in cans?
13:11.41Davilionno, you buy little cartons :)
13:11.45dank_work:)
13:14.25dank_workDavilion: when you were talking to Jenson yesterday, was she always getting distracted?
13:14.28zacharyDavilion: What you need is some fiber in your diet.
13:33.31Davilionsome of the time
13:33.44Davilioni guess
13:34.09Davilioni didnt really notice, i was talking to a few people so wasnt realy paying attention to ping times :)
13:34.35Davilionzachary: :) i have some rather nice looking orange fiber cables here :P
13:34.58Davilioni feel like such a retarded idiot.
13:35.07Davilioni just pullefd a machine out the rack and forgot to unplug the myrinet cable.
13:35.21Daviliontheres now a couple of dead fiber cables and hanging out the switch
13:35.30Davilionand the plug is still in the socket.
13:36.48dank_work:)
13:42.51zacharyoops
13:44.08Davilionyeah
13:44.21Davilionfortunatly i've pushed i back to gether, chopped the end off and put it in the 'dud' pile
13:50.12dank_worktree
13:50.24dank_workwrong window :)
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13:59.33dank_workwb
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14:00.07Davilionthats better
14:00.17dank_workAre you breaking it?
14:00.21Davilionheh yeah i messed up my .xchatrc so it joined twice.
14:00.25dank_workHeh
14:00.29Davilionno, its all tip top at the moment
14:00.34Davilion1st time lucky on the reboot too
14:00.37dank_work:)
14:00.47dank_workOur network's being shit
14:00.56dank_workI'm getting about 3Mbit data rate, rather than 100Mbit
14:01.14Daviliondoesnt sound good
14:01.29Davilionlots of collisions and heavy traffic, or wonky cables?
14:03.17dank_workQuite possibly the disk
14:03.20Davilionoopd
14:03.22dank_workOne 20Gb IDE drive
14:04.45Davilionthats the problem im having today.
14:05.05Davilionfaulty disk so had to replace with similar but not identical one which makes life fun recreating file system etc
14:05.26dank_workYeah
14:05.35dank_workWell, this is a network server, so lots of people accessing it
14:06.23Davilionjormally it would be bootnet, rsh workingnode dd if=/dev/hda |dd of=/dev/hda
14:06.40Davilionturn around 3 times quickly and press reboot
14:08.12dank_work:)
14:13.02dank_workOoh. 2xXeon w/ hyperthreading
14:13.08dank_workShows up as 4 CPUs :)
14:13.10Davilionyeah
14:13.21Davilionit looks cool but the linux scheduler fucks up a bit
14:13.39Davilionit sometimes puts two processes on the same cpu
14:14.00dank_workMaybe we should use BSD then... :)
14:20.52dank_workBloody DeadRat is doing their man pages in UTF-8
14:20.56dank_workAnd xterm don't support that
14:26.11dank_workI mean, what's so wrong with ASCII? Eh?
14:26.18dank_workThe man pages are all written in English
14:26.34dank_workWhy do we have to support the Johnny Foreigners? Really. Gah.
14:27.31Davilion#heh
14:28.44dank_workAll I wanted to do was read the manual page for rsync
14:28.52dank_workHow difficult should that be?
14:30.10StuartCexport LANG=en_GB
14:30.18Davilionahh well it should be so dificult that only the person who wrote rsync and subsequently wouldnt need to look at the man page wouild ever be able to rsync his dirs, and subsequently keep support requests down
14:30.20dank_workaha
14:30.27StuartCit's man/groff not being able to handle the UTF locale
14:30.32dank_work:)
14:30.38dank_workYes, and that's just silly
14:30.55dank_workIf you're going to go for UTF-8, at least make sure everything bloody well supports it
14:31.03StuartCaye. expect rh will be working on patches for them for 8.1 - it's a fiarly visible nastiness
14:31.53dank_workDo RedHat deliberately have broken .0 releases now?
14:32.24Daviliondank_work:  i think so
14:32.29zacharyI don't think it is deliberate, more like a bad habbit.
14:32.40dank_workHabits can be broken
14:36.49SpudUAwayIsn't .0 just beta by a different name?
14:37.00dank_workseems so
14:37.59SpudUAwayErr, s'pose it's really gamma, 'cos .1 would be beta.
14:38.10dank_workeh?
14:38.36SpudUAwayErr, alpha, I meant, honest, typo, etc.
14:39.53dank_workheh
14:42.52dank_workOh dear.
14:43.01dank_work2.5Mbit on a 100Mbit network is not good, is it?
14:56.40Axelnope
14:56.42Axel:)
14:56.44Axelhi all
14:56.54dank_workHi Axel
14:56.58Axelhi Dan
14:59.24dank_workHow's it going?
15:00.38Axelgrrr
15:00.43Axelzarking bastards
15:01.06dank_workheh
15:01.13dank_workenjoy
15:01.17Axelthx
15:01.18Axelbbl
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16:22.36jensonHey guys
16:22.50zacharyHi jenson
16:22.53jensonhi zachary
16:23.04zacharyhow's things?
16:23.38jensonzachary: Alright, how are you?
16:25.43zacharyBusy with my daughter. She is going through this phase of testing my patience(sp), and fits.
16:26.17murblezach: does you patience pass the tests so far?
16:26.21murbles/you/your/
16:26.39zacharymost of the time.
16:27.39zacharyIn the evening it is a little tough, but my wife helps out when I'm about ready to lose my cool.
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16:31.37jensonWell, you can be guarenteed if I leave the room the session freezes
16:32.06jensonzachary: There is one good thing about phases; she'll go through it, must be difficult though
16:39.57jensonAm I all alone or something?
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16:44.11thebrothernope
16:54.22jensonGod I hate BitchX
16:57.46zacharybbl
17:13.41thebrotherjenson: try links too as it's nicer than lynx IMHO
17:16.21jensonthebrother: Well I'm quite happy with IE, but I'm sshing Linux to play ith it
17:24.18jensonI goota go
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17:49.32Davilionright, decisions decisions....
17:49.45Davilioni have a machine with a possibly failed raid, or failed fs
17:49.50Davilioni can go cd /users
17:49.53Davilionand ls
17:49.58Davilionnothing visible
17:50.04Davilionyet i can cd /users/user
17:50.19Davilionand cat files etc, but i can't ls them so to speak
17:50.21Daviliondmesg shows:
17:50.30DavilionEXT2-fs error (device sd(8,6)): ext2_write_inode: unable to read inode block - inode=19480599, block=38961166
17:50.30Davilion<PROTECTED>
17:50.30Davilion<PROTECTED>
17:50.45Davilionnow, do i reboot and fsck, or will that fsck it completely
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18:10.55stephendamn, why does my JANet connection keep dying!?!
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18:17.21Davilionstephen: its not me this time, i managed to resist the urge to pull the cable out leeds-bar.ja.net :)
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18:19.37zacharyevening
18:22.43Davilionevening zachary
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18:42.15stephenDavilion: lol
18:43.24Davilionstephen: i find it really ammusing, it sits next to the front end for my cluster, and its really funny just pullign the cable out for a few seconds and putting it back in again
18:43.28Davilionwell i find it amusing
18:43.39Daviliondoes anybody know if its possible to force a reboot?
18:43.50Davilionlike reboot --force-now-mofo-or-else
18:43.57stepheni'm sure that there are plenty who don't ;)
18:44.17stephenreboot --or-ill-power-the-power-lead-out-anyway
18:44.22stephenpull*
18:44.59stephenwhat instead of shutdown -r now?
18:45.06Davilionyeah its not shutting down,
18:45.26Davilioni have some small fs problems which im hoping a reboot will at least break completely or cure enough so ic an back the remaining ones up
18:45.41stephenCTRL+ALT+DEL works on mine, but it might just call shutdown
18:46.02Davilionahh yes, i would like to be able to a+a+d but the physical keyboard is in york.
18:46.32zacharyinit 0
18:46.36zimminit 6
18:46.53zacharysorry zimm, your right.
18:46.56stephenoh, of course
18:47.05stepheni forgot
18:48.18stephenhow does that work, do you just set it to 6, or do you have to restart something?
18:48.27zimmzachary: :)
18:49.01zacharyas root just type "init 6" and it will run the scripts for that runlevel.
18:49.08Davilionthats what im hoping
18:49.12Davilionbut it doesnt seem to be doing anything
18:49.15Davilionand a quick look at top
18:49.27Davilion<PROTECTED>
18:49.33Davilionits been like that for an hour
18:50.04zimmDavilion: drop into single user and reboot from there ?
18:50.27Davilionzimm: will networking be up in single user?
18:50.30Davilionsince im ssh'd in
18:50.42zimmDavilion: good question ..
18:50.43zacharyI don't know if anyone else would go along with this one, but. The all else fails, "dummy switch" hit the power button
18:51.26Davilionzachary: thats the problem, i want to hit the power, but its a remote box i dont have any remote cycling stuff
18:51.34Davilionshed load of zombie processes too
18:52.00zimmDavilion: doesnt sound very healthy mate ..
18:52.23zacharybrb, need to make dinner
18:52.52Davilionzimm: its very unhealthy.
18:53.03Davilionby the looks of it, one totally borked raid controller
18:53.23Davilionwhich i've unset in fstab so i just want to reboot so at least i can get users half using the system
18:54.00zimmDavilion: cant you do that without a reboot ?
18:54.47Davilionno, its all titsup
18:54.58zimmhmm , yeh , sounds it actually ..
18:55.14Davilioni need to reboot to get rid of the zombies for starters, but the scsi layer is broken too, like i can't do anything to any of my scsi devices/cards etc
18:55.53zimmand all the reboot commands are failing ?
18:56.06Davilionyeah
18:56.16Davilioni get broadcast messagr from root, rebooting etc, then it doesnt switch runlevel
18:56.35zimmcould it be cos you are ssh'd in >?
18:56.49zimmie it cant log you out ..
18:57.51Davilion6:35pm root@topcat[/sbin]% shutdown -r now
18:57.51DavilionBroadcast message from root (pts/1) Tue Jan 28 18:37:17 2003...
18:57.51DavilionThe system is going down for reboot NOW !!
18:57.58Davilion6:37pm root@topcat[/sbin]% logout
18:57.59Davilionebor 5%
18:58.13Davilionalthough
18:58.15Davilionyou may be right
18:58.18Davilioni did try that before however
18:58.46zimmits just something ive run into before i think .. although i dont have much exp with remote admin ..
19:00.27Davilionhmm its still there
19:00.29Davilionbut now i can't log in lol
19:00.37Davilionit could just be taking forever
19:00.55Davilioninit seems to be ther parent process
19:01.14zimmyeh , make coffee , have a fag . try again in 10 :-)
19:01.46Davilionheh
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19:05.47JensonHey guys
19:07.06Davilionhi Jenson
19:07.18Jensonhey dav_manic
19:08.12dav_manichiya.
19:08.14dav_manichows it going?
19:08.56Jensonnot too bad
19:08.58Jensonyou?
19:09.14dav_manicim ok, having a bit of a support problem
19:09.57Jensondav_manic: Oh, what fun :)
19:10.19dav_manicyeah
19:20.06zimmdav_manic: still no luck >?
19:23.12dav_manicno.
19:23.30dav_manici have a feeling its touched /etc/nologin but hasnt went through the reboot process
19:23.43dav_manicso i've emailed tehm to say hard reboot it, tommorow am,
19:23.48dav_manici'll try to forget about it for nwo
19:28.10eye69Evening...
19:28.58Jensonwell done eye69
19:29.00Jenson:)
19:29.09eye69Not really :)
19:29.18SpudUAwayeye69: Only really a problem when it's the l;ast train!
19:29.21JensonI was just being nice
19:29.40eye69SpudUAway: I've done that too
19:29.48SpudUAwayHmm, me too.
19:29.54eye69SpudUAway: Only the it was two stations...lucky I had money for a cab
19:31.10davilionheh
19:31.30SpudUAwayI missed by 8 stations and didn't have the money.
19:31.36davilionat least if i fall asleep in the car, i will come to a sudden stop
19:31.44highburyI hated missing my station on the Northern Line when I lived in Tooting Bec, wake up at Morden and its a long walk back!
19:31.48eye69SpudUAway: Ouch
19:32.25davilionhighbury: can't you get another train?
19:32.41JensonSpudULike: May I ask a question (other than this one)?
19:32.46highburynot if its the last train :-(
19:32.55SpudULikeWas it this year LUL were doing signs of the station they want to get off at for New Years Eve revellers?
19:33.19SpudULikeErr, sorry, let me make some sense of that......
19:33.26eye69LUL?
19:33.36SpudULikeLondon Underground
19:33.39eye69Oh
19:33.44JensonI got the LUL bit
19:33.49Jensonnot that I knew what the L stood for lol
19:34.11Jenson(the second L)
19:34.23eye69Jenson: Laughingstock?
19:34.43SpudULikeGet a Post-It note and write on it the name of the station you wish to get of at.
19:34.47SpudULikeLimited.
19:34.51Jensoneye69: Quite possibly
19:35.57SpudULikeThing is, if you do fall asleep, you would wake up to find that some git had crossed out the station name and replaced it with "Ha Ha".
19:36.06zimmSpudULike: lol
19:36.10zimmmost likely
19:36.54SpudULikeOn a Saturday?
19:37.04JensonSpudULike: Yeah
19:38.02SpudULikeIs eating there THAT shameful?
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19:38.32JensonSpudULike: The hill from town to McDonalds must burn more calories than you take in :)
19:38.35Jensonwb thebrother
19:38.47thebrotherhello
19:39.13eye69Jenson: I would like that.
19:39.33eye69Jenson: Sadly some idiot came up with the idea of home delivery pizza.
19:39.35SpudULikeAh, but does it take the taste away?
19:39.50Jensoneye69: We have that here too :)
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19:40.30JensonI'm getting a cold.......Dan's gonna love me when he comes to visit on Saturday, but he insists whatever he's still coming
19:40.32JensonHey formi
19:40.53formihello my little fans
19:41.34formiyeah, everybody tries to hide it
19:41.35highburyWhoop! SuSE have just released KDE 3.1 on their update site :-)
19:42.02formiif we liked suse or kde
19:42.16SpudULikeSome do.
19:42.24formitraitors
19:42.57highburyformi: to what?
19:42.59zimmat the risk of starting a war .... no i dont think i'll bother
19:43.18formithe simplicity of guis
19:43.37formithe entire planet
19:43.39formi...
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19:48.16zimmwb Jenson
19:48.25JensonI've just had a intelligent thought whilst waiting for this damn thing to reboot :).....no giggling
19:48.41Jensonty zimm
19:48.51zimmno giggling ? this is an intelligent thought ?
19:48.59Jensonlol
19:49.06formiwell..
19:49.11JensonShall i tell you the intelligent thought
19:49.20formishock us
19:49.23Jensonformi: I am capable of being intelligent and sensible you know
19:49.27JensonOK then
19:49.31formiprobe it
19:50.12formistill thinking? don't overdo it
19:50.21JensonThe only reason I wans't allowed to reformat and reinstall on this machine was my mother always seemed to want it....but now she's obessessed with her new XP laptop I should be allowed to format and then I'll dual boot 98SE and Slack
19:51.04JensonWell actually I wouldnt be allowed to put Slack on....but my parents have no idea how to get rid of it lol
19:51.13formiand that is an intelligent thought?
19:51.22JensonYes formi
19:51.43formiI looks to me like a realization
19:52.10Jensonformi: Well it was, fucking system hung and forced me to reboot
19:52.58Jensonibot lart stephen
19:53.12stephenlol
19:53.17formiso you are changing from an unstable  os to a difficult to configure one?
19:53.41stephenno appreciates the copy of solaris
19:53.44stephenso*
19:54.07Jensonformi: Win is actually very stable ATM, doesn't usually crash....and no formi, coz I'd be dual booting....I understand Win and seem to have got it pretty stable
19:54.41Jensonlucky zimm
19:54.43Jensonlol
19:55.01JensonI havent had one of those for a few days...I get them on shutdown
19:55.07Jensoneven though I've installed the patch
19:55.10JensonNeed to format
19:55.26formiwhy do you need to format?
19:55.30zimmhonestly its a really nice OS ,, just clicking around the desktop.. but try to DO anything , and it dies ..
19:55.44Jensonformi: Reinstall Win, it'll improve it.
19:55.57zimmformi: yeh it crashes faster
19:56.00formimaybe it is a lazy os zimm
19:56.18zimmformi:  could be ..
19:56.38Jensonzimm: Last time I formatted I had a BSOD on bootup everytime for like 3 weeks.....coz I couldnt be bothered to sort out my sound drivers
19:56.45zimmmaybe i should give it some coffee
19:56.53zimmheh .
19:56.54JensonRed Bull
19:57.10zimmwhen i installed XP , it crashed all 3 times i booted it ,,
19:57.11stephen& Vodka
19:57.44JensonI hate XP
19:57.50zimmyeh
19:57.51JensonWe'll I'm off to watch TV
19:57.53zimmits sucks
19:57.53JensonSee ya at 9
19:57.54Jensonbyeeeeeeeeeeeee
19:57.59zimmbye Jenson
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20:06.53dankolbEvening
20:07.10zimmhey dankolb
20:07.22dankolbHey zimm
20:07.24dankolbHow's it going?
20:07.32zimmoh the usual ..
20:07.34zimmshite
20:07.38zimm:-)
20:07.41dankolbAww
20:07.41dankolb:)
20:07.42dankolbWhat's up, then?
20:08.35zimmlets just say its hard to concentrate on uni , when you really cant rationalise getting 20k in debt to achieve a meaningless qualification ..
20:08.58dankolbAhh.
20:09.29zimmquestion ,,
20:09.38zimmhas your degree actually helped you get work ?
20:09.43dankolbThe qualification isn't meaningless. A lot of employers look for a degree - it shows the ability to learn
20:10.25dankolbEr, well, not my particular work, because I was asked to join, as I was working there before and they liked me
20:10.54dankolbBut I'm quite sure it got me one interview, and got me invited to another one (which I had to turn down)
20:11.30zimmhmm , yeh but your degree has snob value attached (no offence)
20:11.35dankolbHeh :)
20:11.37dankolbNone taken
20:11.53dankolbI did only get a 2:2, though
20:12.30stepheni'm hoping that people won't turn their noses up at my degree just 'cos its from brookes
20:12.34dankolbThe other thing about going to University is getting the experience
20:12.35zimmyeh but a 2:2 from oxford is still going to get interviews ,, whilst a first from greenwich wont
20:12.46dankolbActually, it should
20:13.00dankolbstephen: They shouldn't
20:13.38dankolbGetting a first shows your in the top x% of your year
20:13.38zimmit should ,, but having actually been an employer .. i can say taht a lot of the time , you look at where the degree was gained first
20:13.57stephenwell, we'll see what the ICT market is like in 3 1/2 years time
20:14.06dankolbyeah
20:14.25dankolbzimm: But that doesn't mean they'll just say "Greenwich? Bin"
20:14.32zimmstephen: hell man , Brookes wouldnt even give me a place !
20:14.47zimmdankolb: some would ..
20:14.50dankolbGetting into Oxford means you've done well at A-Levels
20:15.26dankolbIf, thereafter, you don't do any work and just scrape a pass, then that indicates that either the degree wasn't right for you, and you couldn't hack it, or you were just lazy, and therefore you'd be a bad worker/employee
20:15.36zimmthey look at your character too though ,, being a muppet with straight A's doesnt get you a place
20:15.39dankolbzimm: They they're not worth dealing with
20:15.42dankolbzimm: True
20:16.06dankolbIf your whole life involved learning for your A-Levels, they'd probably think you wouldn't really be an asset to the University
20:16.15zimmexactly ..
20:16.19dankolbThe tutors have to gauge if they'd get on well with their candidates or not
20:17.07zimmheh , i had a place at Cambridge once ,, but didnt take them up on it cos i was working , then they didnt want me as a mature student ..
20:17.13dankolbAww :-/
20:17.15dankolbThat sucks
20:17.19zimmyup
20:17.25dankolbBut Oxford's far better than Cam anyway :)
20:17.31zimmdepends ,,
20:17.35dankolb(I'm not biased, no)
20:18.04dankolbAre you enjoying your degree, though? Is it interesting?
20:18.27zimmits exactly what i wanted in a philosophy degree ..
20:18.51zimmim just a bit tired of the whole uni thing ..
20:19.01dankolbHow much longer do you have left?
20:19.15zimmstill a first year :-(
20:19.36dankolbAhhhh
20:19.47dankolbSo you're tired of it after a term?
20:19.55zimmhad to start as a frst year again when i transferred from keele ..
20:20.13zimm(keele only do dual hons , i wanted to specialise)
20:20.31zimmso basically ,, ive done 2 years ..
20:20.37zimmand have 2 to go '
20:20.47dankolbRight
20:21.05dankolbUni isn't only about getting those letters after your name
20:21.19dankolbWhat also matters is that you're enjoying the degree, and any social life
20:21.43stephen;)
20:22.22stephenyou can't
20:22.27zimmdammit ,,
20:22.28dankolbAh.
20:22.40dankolbSummer / vacation jobs?
20:22.44dankolbPart-time evening jobs?
20:23.06stephenyep - i'm going to investigate this term
20:23.50dankolbstephen: One of my friends is/was working part-time as a barperson at the Royal Standard in Headington
20:23.58dankolb(is that the one I'm thinking of?)
20:24.21stephenmight be, dunno, i've only ever been in the white horse, which is like 1 min from brookes
20:24.55dankolbAh.
20:25.11stephenonce, i hasten to add
20:25.49dankolbI don't know the pub, so can't comment
20:26.05stephenit's actually really nice in there
20:26.08dankolb:-)
20:26.20dankolbThat's good, then
20:26.33dankolbI've always pretty much stayed in the city centre
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20:27.05resuDaedevening all
20:27.08zimmthats one thing Oxford does have over cam.. the town is nicer ..
20:27.08formithe walking dead in person
20:27.11stephenah, we've got a bar on campus and getting into town is a bit of a pain in the arse from here
20:27.41dankolbhi resuDaed
20:27.49resuDaedcan someone give me a one liner to run a command, wait a given number of seconds, then run another command?
20:27.53dankolbstephen: Buses, bicycles
20:28.00dankolbfoo ; sleep bar ; baz
20:28.09resuDaedbar = seconds?
20:28.11dankolb(where bar is an integer)
20:28.14dankolbyup
20:28.24resuDaeddo the job, thanks
20:28.37dankolbnp
20:29.05dankolbzimm: That's what really put me off Cam - when I went there, it was completely dead. Mid-afternoon, and about 3 other people in the main shopping area
20:29.17dankolbOh, and the Burger King there got my order wrong
20:29.33zimmlol
20:29.39zimmcant be living there then ..
20:29.49zimmnah man , Oxford is a nice place ..
20:30.16dankolbI know :)
20:30.19stephenof course it is, i live there
20:30.27dankolbI'd like to go back there, work there
20:30.44stephenzimm: which part of Chelt?
20:31.21dankolbCool
20:31.39zimmerr , last place i was at was just outside chelts itself ,,
20:32.14zimmchurchdown .. , and had a few bedsits in town but god knows what the area's were called , i was only there for work  ..
20:32.40stephencool - i went to school in churchdown for like 3 years
20:32.48zimmyeh ?
20:32.49zimmfunky
20:32.55dankolbSmall world, innit
20:32.55zimmsmall world etc ..
20:32.58dankolb:)
20:33.06stephenyeah, it sure is
20:33.26dankolb"Do you know a Mrs. Harris from Blackpool? Legs...hair...."
20:33.33zimmarrrgghghhh
20:33.37dankolbWhat?
20:33.46stephenlol
20:34.35stephenhe was a spook afetr all
20:34.38dankolbTrue
20:34.56dankolb:-)
20:35.05dankolbA SPY!
20:35.07dankolbIn our midst!
20:35.14zimmhehe
20:38.02dankolbHm. Interesting lineup on BBC7 tonight
20:39.12dankolbYeah, anyway, it's worth sticking with University
20:39.34zimmyeh i guess so ..
20:40.10dankolbGive Jenson a good example, anyway :)
20:40.18zimmbe easier to stick with if i had a little more money..
20:40.25zimmlol
20:41.28dankolbI can understand that, but money really shouldn't be an overriding principle
20:41.42zimmits not ,,
20:41.57zimmbut when you cant afford to eat properly , it does become an issue ,
20:42.12zimm:-)
20:42.16dankolbHm. I guess.
20:42.32dankolbPart-time job, then, I guess
20:42.41zimmguess so ..
20:43.29zimmneed my driving licence , im sorted then ,, easily make an extra 100/week ..
20:43.32dankolbYou'll get more out of it that way
20:43.34dankolbHeh :)
20:44.11dankolbAhh.
20:44.15dankolbWhat did you get banned for?
20:44.46zimmerr ,, being totally honest here (and continuing the small world theme) , driving past your house
20:44.59zimmwell , past Beaconsfield
20:45.05dankolbyeah...
20:45.11zimmat 140mph
20:45.19dankolbOn the A40 or M40?
20:45.23zimmM 40
20:45.29dankolbNot quite so bad, then
20:45.38zimmanything over 100mph is a ban ,
20:45.44zimmand i had 9 points already
20:45.51dankolbAh. Not good
20:45.56zimmho hum ,, the joys of despatch work ..
20:46.08dankolbYeah
20:46.14dankolbBut it pays a little bit
20:46.30zimmgrand a week + if you are busy ,,
20:46.46dankolbOkay. that's bloody good
20:47.01zimm(course if you are tha busy your  costs are like 4-500 , /week , )
20:47.18zimmstill , its nice money ,,
20:47.26dankolbThat's still good, £500/week
20:47.35dankolbBetter than wot I'm getting
20:47.53zimmhehe
20:48.13dankolbHehe :)
20:48.59dankolbYou'll just have to make do with baked beans instead of caviar, then
20:49.28zimmrofl ..
20:50.06zimmheh , i never spent money on lifestyle ,,
20:50.08dankolbIt's a staple student food, apparently
20:50.14zimmit all went on toys and parties
20:50.19dankolbHeh
20:50.28dankolbInteresting/fun toys?
20:50.40stephenstaple*
20:51.00stephenexcept for me, because i don't like them one bit
20:51.02stephenlol
20:51.13zimmmotorbikes , mountain bikes , BMX, guns , cars , cool stuff
20:51.15dankolbYou can staple student food with them
20:51.23dankolbHeh
20:51.33dankolbYeah, you can't spend on that when you're a student
20:52.00zimmand taking 10 people clubbing and paying for it all will wax over 500 quid quite easily
20:52.22dankolbWell, yes. Again, that's some restrictions you have to make on yourself while a student
20:52.41zimmhehe , guess so ..
20:53.38dankolbFernuff. I never liked it
20:53.51dankolbReally can't stand any loud noise
20:54.07zimmits expensive , noisy , boring , and everyone talks utter shite ..
20:54.10zimmthen you go home
20:54.21stephenlol
20:54.39dankolbOh joy.
20:54.45dankolbSo I really haven't missed anything by not going
20:55.15zimmdankolb: hand on heart , if you dont take E its a waste of time effort and money
20:55.54dankolb(apart from the fact I know I wouldn't enjoy it)
20:56.36stepheni went to a club for the first time on friday and it was shite
20:56.42dankolbWhich club?
20:56.48zimmstephen: what club /
20:56.52stephenclub latino by pub oxford
20:56.59dankolbah
20:57.04zimmstephen: what tuneage you into ?
20:57.15stephennot dance music for sure
20:57.19zimmahh ..
20:57.24zimmhehe
20:57.25stephenjazz, rock, big band
20:57.29dankolbMe too
20:58.43stepheni couldn't find any of the people i went with and just spent like 1/2 an hour just standing around looking for them.  When I finnaly found them, they had booked a taxi to arrive in like 10 mins
20:59.35zimmstephen: now , see ,, if you had been spannered on E , that would have seemed REALLY fun
20:59.56zimmlol
21:00.11zimmanyway ,, im gonna watch TV
21:00.14zimmlaters
21:00.15stephenprobably - i just came back and got hammered on other people's absin and vodka/red bull and beer
21:00.33dankolbcya
21:00.42zimm|tv:)
21:00.48dankolb:)
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21:08.27dankolbwb
21:08.41zimm|tv:-)
21:08.53SpudULikeWhatya all watching?
21:08.55dankolbanything interesting on?
21:09.19zimm|tvcrackhouse on BBC2
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21:09.23dankolbah
21:09.28dankolbhi Clyphox
21:09.28SpudULike"Life, Death and Sex with Mike and Sue" is funny.
21:09.42ClyphoxHi dank
21:09.55ClyphoxHear about mitnicks book?
21:10.24ClyphoxThey choped the first chapter before publishing it..
21:10.28dankolbheh
21:10.34ClyphoxYou can get the first chapter now..
21:10.34resuDaedis it possible to kill all instances of a process by it's command line?
21:10.48resuDaed(ie I have 4 instances of mpg123 running ... can I kill all at once)
21:10.50ClyphoxresuDaed , killall -KILL
21:10.56dankolbkillall mpg123
21:10.58ClyphoxresuDaed , killall -KILL mpg123
21:11.21Clyphox-KILL really kills it hehe.. its kinda.. "overKILL" hehe
21:11.22resuDaedthanks
21:11.33resuDaedwas starting to get annoying :-)
21:12.21Clyphoxdankolb, what should is your friends mx server again?
21:12.28dankolbwdym?
21:14.11Clyphoxnm.. urbanterror time anyway.. (just got in from work and MUST play or else...)
21:14.18dankolb:)
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21:30.26dankolbhi
21:30.33Clyphoxho
21:31.31dankolbHm. She's out of it again
21:31.40Clyphoxthere is something weird going on here..
21:31.57Jensonhey Clyphox
21:31.57Clyphoxmy internet is down yet this works.. hmmm...
21:32.01dankolbAh
21:32.03dankolbWell, that's the main thing
21:32.12dankolbAs long as you can IRC, what more do you need?
21:32.24zimm|tvClyphox: http is close on dead here too
21:32.40dankolbJenson: No
21:32.45Jensonhey zimm|tv What you watching
21:32.46dankolbIt doesn't
21:33.01zimm|tvJenson: guess ..
21:33.02dankolbParacetamol is a pain killer.
21:33.08Jensondankolb: Well we shall see, they looked the most suitable tablet I could spot on the way past lol
21:33.19dankolbJenson: Don't take it if you don't need it
21:33.25zimm|tvdankolb: its slightly anti-inflamatory too , which can lower temp
21:33.34dankolbzimm|tv: Yeah, if you have a fever
21:34.02zimm|tvlol, true
21:34.16dankolbcolds don't tend to give you fever
21:35.06ClyphoxHiya Jenson
21:35.08Jensonhoney I'm the kinda person in which a headache is cured the moment I take a tabelt....total placebo effect
21:35.11Jensonhey Clyphox
21:35.21dankolbAh, but a headache is not a cold
21:35.25zimm|tvJenson: so have a cup of tea :-P
21:35.33ClyphoxI need terminals.. nothing opens on X or anywhere when my net is down.. :(
21:35.37Jensonzimm|tv: Then I'll need a wee every 10 mins lol
21:35.39ClyphoxIts bloody blueyonder...
21:35.48zimm|tvJenson: so have a small cup of tea :-P
21:35.55JensonI could find the Red Bull
21:35.58Clyphoxgetting weird pings...
21:36.06dankolbRed Bull will be worse for headaches
21:36.14zimm|tvClyphox: yeh im on NTL , and its been fux0rred all day
21:36.16Clyphoxat least irc works but its not the same as Urban Terror! Huhahaha
21:36.24Jensondankolb: I have a cold not a headache
21:36.24dankolbIRC is better :)
21:36.35dankolbJenson: But cold Red Bull wouldn't be so great either
21:36.46dankolbHave a nice warm cup of tea, like zimm said
21:36.56Jensondankolb: I think I shouldn't have walked intoi town in the rain and the hail.....
21:37.02Clyphoxzimm|tv, Only got home and had time for one TDM and now its all crud..
21:37.05dankolbYou're right. You shouldn't have.
21:37.08dankolbBut you did.
21:37.10JensonEsp when I knew I had a cough/cold earlier
21:37.12Clyphoxhehe
21:37.19JensonI wanted to talk to Bee about Brad
21:37.32dankolbFair enough
21:37.37Clyphoxwomen
21:37.42ClyphoxJ/k
21:37.52JensonClyphox: Yeah, we're all stupid
21:37.59dankolbI thought you were going to feed the rabbit before coming online
21:38.04ClyphoxA goth with a bunny wabit?  kewl =-)
21:38.18dankolba fluffy goth
21:38.35Clyphoxyou should kno..
21:38.37JensonClyphox: A goth who hates herself for losing her gothness.... think I'm becoming a townie........that aint allowed
21:38.46Clyphoxlol..
21:38.48dankolbMe? I haven't seen her rabbit
21:38.58zimm|tvrofl..
21:39.05dankolbJenson: You shouldn't hate yourself. No-one else here hates you
21:39.15JensonClyphox: Picture of the rabbit called spike at http://www.face-pic.com/jenson
21:39.37Clyphoxnet is fscked..
21:39.44ClyphoxI'm resetting the bloody blueyonder router now..
21:39.46zimm|tvJenson: ick , townie ? ick ..
21:39.56JensonYeah zimm|tv hon exactly
21:40.13dankolbtownie. Hmm. No good, no.
21:40.17dankolbGeek. You are a geek.
21:40.34dankolbMore to the point, you're a geekgirl
21:40.41zimm|tvgeek is sooo mid nineties though ..
21:40.49dankolbNo it's not
21:40.49JensonYour geekgirl
21:40.51resuDaedanyone used mutella before?
21:40.54Jensonno zimm|tv that's nerd
21:40.57dankolbTrue. My geekgirl
21:40.58Jensonhey resuDaed
21:41.01ClyphoxresuDaed , use mydonkey
21:41.02resuDaedhey Jenson
21:41.03dankolbmutella? Wazzat?
21:41.12ClyphoxresuDaed, er mldonyey
21:41.31resuDaeddankolb: command line based gnutella client
21:41.34dankolbAh right
21:41.53resuDaedClyphox : which?
21:42.08ClyphoxresuDaed , hmm.. one mo
21:42.29JensonBlueyonder doesnt seem to exist tonight
21:42.41ClyphoxresuDaed , your net ok?
21:42.41resuDaedJenson : explain?
21:42.46resuDaedmy nets ok
21:42.50resuDaedyours?
21:42.51resuDaed:)
21:42.55Clyphoxgtg.. quake has loaded at last..
21:42.59Clyphoxnope..
21:43.02dankolbcya Clyphox
21:43.12resuDaedClyphox : explain the donkey thing
21:43.16ClyphoxJenson, part of the opennap network..
21:43.37JensonClyphox: I actually knew that lol
21:43.46Clyphoxlook at freshmeat.. its half daemon and half client.. can search to "edonkey" urls online too.. kewl..
21:43.47resuDaedJenson : I'd guess WinMX requires windows (or working wine config)
21:44.03JensonresuDaed: Yeah....but I'm gonna dualboot Slack on here :)
21:44.10dankolbHeh
21:44.24resuDaedsome of us donj't waste our disk space on dual boots :)
21:44.24dankolbEven better if you have Windows - wine will work even better
21:44.47resuDaedI use the windows dir from another box over the net
21:44.50resuDaed(work)
21:44.58dankolb:)
21:45.32dankolbWhy? You're feeling better?
21:45.35*** mode/#gllug [+o SpudULike] by ChanServ
21:45.53Jensondankolb: I think because I'm ignoring it it isnt attention seeking lol
21:46.05dankolbFerrnuff
21:46.46dankolbOi
21:47.18dankolbHehe
21:47.24dankolbJenson: Don't distract him from his TV
21:49.02JensonI live to distract guys
21:49.09Jensonibot seen davilion
21:49.09davilion <~irvined@adsl-239-121.as15758.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 2h 16m 44s ago, saying: 'highbury: can't you get another train?'.
21:49.19dankolbtrue
21:49.21Jensonibot seen dav_manic
21:49.21dav_manic <~irvined@adsl-239-121.as15758.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 2h 25m 33s ago, saying: 'i'll try to forget about it for nwo'.
21:49.29dankolbbut you end up getting distracted yourself
21:49.36Jensonlol
21:53.14SpudULikeHmm, cough, hmm.  Jenson, I've only just noticed what you said earlier this evening - "Jenson> SpudULike: May I ask a question (other than this one)?"
21:53.26SpudULikeErr, did you ask, did I answer?
21:53.30dankolb:)
21:54.50JensonNope and nope
21:55.13SpudULikeCool, so long as I know.  I'll sleep better for it.
21:55.25SpudULike... and for knowing you didn't answer.
21:55.32SpudULikeask, even, err.
21:55.36JensonShall I ask now?
21:56.01SpudULikeWas that the question you wanted to ask earlier, seems a bit dull.
21:56.11Jensonlol
21:56.25JensonI wanted to ask, where the name SpudULike actually came from?
21:56.28SpudULikeLondon Overground Limited.
21:58.04SpudULikeOh, right. Well the Spud bit comes from my surname - Murphy, the ULike bit comes from wishful thinking.
21:59.16JensonI know someone with exclty the same name as you....last time I saw him he was trying to install a Win program in DOS...coz he didnt know how to click on 'have disc' to accexss the CD
21:59.21TarragonPost just delivered - Yes it is 10pm - Eurostar tickets in hand
21:59.28JensonYet he's trusted to do tech and I'm not
21:59.32dankolb:)
21:59.32Jensoncool Tarragon
22:00.42eye69What moviechannel would you guys, and gal, say is the best?
22:01.04dankolbPass
22:01.05stephen#movies?
22:01.31stephensry, couldn't resist ;)
22:01.41eye69stephen: *slap*
22:01.42dankolbeye69: IRC channel, or TV channel?
22:01.46zimmdont ask me i dont watch TV ...
22:01.49dankolb:)
22:01.54eye69dankolb: TV
22:02.02dankolbLook at some TV papers
22:02.04stephenpresumably an irc channel becuase i don't even have a tv
22:02.09dankolbSee what channel you like
22:02.27eye69stephen: Neither do I. I've got a Bt878 though. :)
22:02.28dankolbRoom 101 on BBC7
22:03.06eye69Patriot Games on Sky One
22:03.24stephenthat's a cool movie
22:03.43stephen(unless of course you've read the book)
22:03.58eye69I don't read books
22:04.19SpudULikedankolb: Steptoe was funny.
22:04.22stepheni don't often - but Tom Clancy books are pretty good
22:04.35SpudULikeHeard R101 this morning.
22:06.59dankolbSpudULike: Yeah
22:07.08JensonSpudULike: lol
22:08.07resuDaedgtk-gnutella rules (IMHO)
22:09.01dankolbHehe :)
22:10.22JensonAhhhh it keeps popping up all by itself now......(doesnt it Dan :P)
22:10.28dankolbDon't you know it
22:11.02JensonI'd like to know it some more
22:11.18dankolb:-)
22:11.19dankolbYou will
22:11.41SpudULikeErr, it's getting hot in here, someone open a window.
22:12.20dankolb:-)
22:12.36dankolbWhat's up, zimm?
22:12.57eye69Whoa...Shooting Stars
22:13.04eye69That show is bloody hilarious
22:13.06dankolbHeh
22:13.10SpudULikeTarragon: What, the special Jenson anti-glare shades?
22:13.14dankolb:)
22:13.21eye69Naaaw...it ended
22:13.41dankolbDon't blind yourself
22:13.51dankolbOtherwise you couldn't see me...
22:13.52Jensongrrrrrrrr XChat was so made for Linux
22:13.55Jensonlol dont ask
22:14.25formiShooting Stars: that sounds interesting
22:14.43formican I have the Minogue?
22:15.11Jensons/not/now
22:15.18dankolb:)
22:25.45JensonWe could try talking whilst I'm not here lol
22:27.16dankolbIt's no fun, though
22:27.22dankolbAnd I'm looking at digital cameras again
22:27.34JensonWhat a surprise Dan
22:27.37dankolbWhat?
22:27.42dankolbI'd like a decent one for FOSDEM
22:27.48dankolbMy one doesn't have a flash, so really won't work well
22:27.56JensonI know all that
22:28.24zimmdankolb: starp a BIG torch to it ?
22:28.51stephensee there's a proper student way to do it, cheap and simple
22:28.56dankolbzimm: That's silly
22:28.57dankolb:)
22:29.27zimmthe proper student way to do it is to nick one from the media dept :-)
22:29.53stephenah yes, i forgot
22:30.43dankolb:)
22:35.17JensonGoodnight then stephen
22:35.28stephennn all
22:35.52SpudULikenn
22:36.04TarragonNight
22:36.28dankolbnight stephen
22:36.32TarragonMmmm Lemon Yogurt on Melon.
22:36.35dankolb:)
22:37.13TarragonBless you
22:37.25dankolb:)
22:37.31Jensonty
22:44.08Jensonlol Cheese String!
22:44.42zimmlol ,
22:44.47zimmcheese string ..
22:45.13Jensons/he/her
22:45.19zimmreally ?
22:45.21zimmweird ,,,
22:45.23JensonYeah lol
22:45.42zimmthat in itself is reason enough to end it i shuld think
22:45.55SpudULikeJenson: Just so long as his first name wasn't Cheddar.
22:46.15zimmSpudULike: his parents culdnt have been THAT cruel ..
22:46.20Jensonzimm: He thought I was clingy, and flirty, and he couldn't trust me with other guys (or girls for that matter) so he dumped me
22:46.22zimmcould they ?
22:46.46zimmJenson: awww
22:46.46JensonSpudULike: I know someone callled Ebony Saint....how cool is a name that means Black Saint
22:46.58dankolbJenson: Uhhh....
22:47.36SpudULikedankolb: Stick with Silicon, you know where you are with Silicon!         ;-)
22:47.49dankolbSpudULike: Yeah. At least computers stay with you
22:48.30SpudULikeAnd they have more ports!
22:48.36dankolbtrue
22:48.37zimmSpudULike: rofl .
22:48.40Jensonlol ok
22:49.20zimmahahahahaha
22:49.28JensonSorry, couldnt resist
22:49.38dankolbEthernet, though...
22:49.40dankolb(RJ45)
22:50.51formiever wondered why the psu fan is protected?
22:50.53zachary1/8" audio.
22:50.55SpudULikeJenson: As you ask, no.
22:51.19JensonI'm just playing with ya SpudULike.....not literally
22:51.28zimmformi: cant say i have ..
22:54.57SpudULikePSU fans are an endangered species.
22:56.23JensonSpudULike: So are dustmites
22:57.21JensonTarragon: Ewwwwwww beer, ewwwwwwwww cheese strings
22:57.49TarragonIf you say Ewwwww Chocolate I really will not believe you.
22:58.35dankolbewww chocolate
22:58.52SpudULikeHmmm, chocolate beer flavoured Cheese String - you know it's only a matter of time!
22:58.57dankolb:)
22:59.12dankolb:)
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23:00.24dankolbYes
23:00.27dankolbwb Jenson_
23:00.30zimmlol
23:01.15JensonBloody BT
23:01.18resuDaedanyone suggest a method of putting mp3 into cdaudio and on to a cd
23:01.20resuDaed?
23:01.26dankolbYes
23:01.31resuDaedin 1 line?
23:01.34dankolbmpg123 -W (IIRC) should write to a wav file
23:01.40JensonresuDaed: Not with Linux.....but if you've got Win I can
23:01.52resuDaedJenson : what do you take me as?
23:02.02zacharyThe installfest flyer on the gllug.co.uk website has been changed. If you would like to download it and make comments, please do so.
23:02.11dankolbfor i in *.mp3 ; do mpg123 -W $i (or whatever's appropriate) ; done ; cdrecord <options> -pad *.wav
23:02.13Jensonzachary:  ok
23:05.03JensonTarragon: I love chocolate BTW
23:05.55SpudULikedankolb: You still on BBC7?
23:06.08dankolbYeah
23:06.37SpudULikeDamn, If I had remembered it was Jensons comment I would have kept stum.
23:06.37formiI have a friend who always has chocolate in his car, when he is late back home, he takes a few bars, and his gf doesn't kill him
23:07.04SpudULikeI'm in that audience.
23:07.32dankolb:)
23:07.39Jensonformi: I'd be like that....feed me chocolate lol
23:07.46zacharyChocolate, it's a female sedative.
23:08.23formiI wouldn't know I shy from both
23:08.36resuDaedhow would you add the sting ".wav" to $i ?
23:08.43JensonI wish my printer would print straight
23:09.15resuDaedbecause the mpg123 command requires the output file as well as the input file
23:09.42dankolbresuDaed: $i.wav (makes it foo.mp3.wav)
23:10.32resuDaedok
23:11.04SpudULikeHow would you replace '.mp3' for '.wav' ?
23:11.27resuDaeddankolb, it's not recognising spaces in the file names
23:11.51SpudULikeOOooo, use backticks
23:11.57resuDaedie $i = the filename, not the filename with appropraite escape chars
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23:13.53dankolbresuDaed: Ahh. Spaces are problems
23:14.00Jensonhey highbury
23:14.02Jensonhey skugg
23:14.12dankolbSPLITTERS!
23:14.20Jensonzimm: You havinng netsplits?
23:14.23resuDaeddankolb : I'd noticed
23:14.25resuDaed:)
23:15.49dankolbAh
23:16.47zimmwoohoo
23:17.15dankolbHeh :)
23:17.17dankolbGood for you
23:17.34resuDaedsince I found the *boxes
23:17.37zimmlol , you didnt last time we spoke resuDaed
23:17.52resuDaedI know - I've moved on in the world
23:18.05resuDaedalthough I always disaproved of gnome
23:18.07dankolb:)
23:18.25zimmeveryone should HATE gnome
23:19.26resuDaedjenson : open up a shell and type 'startx -- : 1'
23:19.51resuDaeds/: 1/:1
23:20.56formiand I wonder why Spud has so many windows opened!
23:21.26murblezimm: and what are the build depends like?
23:21.55zimmmurble: fsck knows , i dont build it ,, i just install it and test the builds ..
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23:22.33JensonIt likes me :)
23:22.33Jensonwb everyone
23:22.33resuDaedwb splitters
23:22.36zimmlol
23:22.53dankolbsplitters
23:23.06TarragonDid I go? I was on saberhagen.
23:23.08dankolbAre we the popular front of Judea?
23:23.11formiis it me or everybody else dissapeared and I stayed?
23:23.20dankolbformi: That's what netsplits do
23:23.26zimmfsck me that was confusing ..
23:23.57formiwhy do always everybody is splitted and I am not?
23:24.03SpudULikeBoasting will get you nowhere!
23:24.11resuDaed<PROTECTED>
23:24.18zimmlol
23:25.06*** mode/#gllug [-o SpudULike] by SpudULike
23:25.21formiim just asking
23:25.42formiis this a graphical illusion?
23:25.47JensonWe used to call it the bootymonster......but that was Java chat...used to kick people off
23:26.10dankolb:)
23:28.31resuDaedis there a command in bash to replace all occurecnces of a string within a string with another string (I like string)
23:28.44dankolbsed ?
23:29.18dankolb`echo $i | sed -e "s/foo/bar/g"`
23:30.07resuDaedboo = haystack, bar = needle?
23:30.16resuDaeds/boo/foo
23:30.17dankolbYeah
23:31.52SpudULikeDid anyone catch 'The Sunday Format' earlier this evening?
23:32.01Jensonno SpudULike
23:32.43SpudULikeJenson: You missed out big time.  Do you ever take streaming audio?
23:33.12TarragonYes. Last one in series
23:33.17Jensonyeah SpudULike
23:33.55SpudULikeJenson: Ah, well, you could 'Listen Again' from the BBC Radio 4 web site.
23:34.23JensonSpudULike: I could yeah
23:35.36SpudULikeIndeed, and you should.
23:36.24dankolbWhat do you want to do exactly?
23:38.32resuDaedto replace all " " in $i with "\ "
23:38.51dankolbHm
23:39.00dankolbI think there's a better way of escaping it, though
23:39.21resuDaedmore than likley - theres a better method to everything I do, but what the hell :-)
23:39.33dankolb:-)
23:39.33JensonW  I  N  D  O  W  S - just for that though, I wouldsnt wanna corrupt a geek
23:40.02resuDaed* N ? X
23:40.59Jensonibot seen zimm
23:41.01zimm is currently on #gllug (4h 59m 23s).  Has said a total of 121 messages.  Is idling for 16m 43s
23:41.12JensonWhere's he gone?!
23:41.21resuDaedibot Jenson
23:41.22jenson is probably a geek girl, or not in London, or a little crazy, or killing her computer on a regular basis, or innocent and clean-minded, or not, or any number of other things, or having a lot of things added to her profile by the naughty geek guys, or also adding them herself.  Red Bull makes her hot, or a Slackware user (or pretends she has the slightest clue what she's doing)
23:41.29Jensonibot resuDaed
23:41.30rumour has it, resudaed is finally using a respectable version of linux, or has a thing (about debian)
23:41.39zimmlol
23:41.45Jensonibot zimm
23:41.45well, zimm is a god
23:41.53zimmtoo damn right
23:41.56Jensonibot zimm is also damn cool
23:41.57okay, Jenson
23:42.02Jensonibot zimm
23:42.02rumour has it, zimm is a god, or damn cool
23:42.17resuDaedibot zimm also uses kde on a regular basis
23:42.17resuDaed: i haven't a clue
23:42.27zimmahaha
23:42.40resuDaedibot zimm is also uses kde on a regular basis
23:42.41resuDaed: okay
23:42.57zimmresuDaed: i use fluxbox anyway , i just test kde cvs builds ..
23:43.04Jensonibot zimm
23:43.04extra, extra, read all about it, zimm is a god, or damn cool, or uses kde on a regular basis
23:43.39Tarragonibot dankolb
23:43.40well, dankolb is not a bot, or hates BTinternet, or a horse, or has a FreeBSD fetish
23:43.45formiibot is dumb
23:43.46i haven't a clue, formi
23:43.57formiyou see
23:44.03Tarragonibot its-formi
23:44.03its-formi is probably a strange galician bloke living in London, the only true @n@rQuist@, O carallo 29.
23:44.04zimmibot formi
23:44.05[formi] its-formi other personality
23:44.26Tarragonibot ibot
23:44.27rumour has it, ibot is a blootbot now, no longer an infobot. run by BZFlag (TimRiker) on his server. see blootbot also http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ it uses SQLite but can use MySQL or other SQL for storage.
23:44.51Jensonibot SpudULike
23:44.52i guess spudulike is often to be found looking for his lost marbles. or a man not to be messed with!
23:45.03JensonThat ones brilliant lol
23:45.59its-formiibot its-formi is also uses fluxbox
23:46.00its-formi: okay
23:46.31highburyew
23:46.38its-formiibot its-formi is also uses freebsd 4.7.
23:46.38okay, its-formi
23:46.41highburyor even re
23:46.50its-formiibot its-formi
23:46.51rumour has it, its-formi is a strange galician bloke living in London, the only true @n@rQuist@, O carallo 29. uses fluxbox, or uses freebsd 4.7.
23:47.12SpudULikeibot SpudULike
23:47.13extra, extra, read all about it, spudulike is just 'zis guy, you know!
23:47.20SpudULikeibot SpudULike
23:47.20well, spudulike is just 'zis guy, you know!
23:47.39SpudULikeibot SpudULike
23:47.40from memory, spudulike is Colin, rarely Mr Murphy.
23:47.52SpudULikeibot Jenson
23:47.53i heard jenson is Killing her computer on a regular basis
23:47.53its-formiibot colin
23:47.54its-formi: I don't know, could you explain it?
23:48.00SpudULikeibot Jenson
23:48.01i heard jenson is Slackware user (or pretends she has the slightest clue what she's doing)
23:48.13dankolbHey
23:48.22dankolbWho deleted all Jenson's info?
23:48.37Jensonibot Jenson
23:48.42it has been said that jenson is Slackware user (or pretends she has the slightest clue what she's doing)
23:48.45its-formiibot danklog is not good playing with ibot
23:48.45okay, its-formi
23:48.45SpudULikeIts all there, just in pieces.  You no like/
23:49.31zimmibot Jenson
23:49.31rumour has it, jenson is probably a geek girl
23:49.52Tarragonibot SpudULike
23:49.53methinks spudulike is Colin, rarely Mr Murphy.
23:50.02Jensonibot Tarragon
23:50.03extra, extra, read all about it, tarragon is a tall Northern bloke
23:50.06dankolbits-formi: True. I have better things in my life than to play with bots
23:50.26SpudULikeTarragon: You were hoping for the 34 weeks comment?
23:50.35TarragonYES !!!
23:50.52Jensonibot Tarragon
23:50.53[tarragon] a tall Northern bloke
23:50.57zimmlol
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23:51.32TarragonHi cupis
23:51.33its-formiibot Tarragon is also getting taller sideways.
23:51.34its-formi: okay
23:51.34Jensonhi cupis
23:51.40Jensonlol fo
23:51.43TarragonBastard
23:51.44Jensonits-formi:
23:51.45Jensoneven
23:51.47JensonCan't type
23:52.09its-formiibot Tarragon
23:52.10[tarragon] a tall Northern bloke, or getting taller sideways.
23:52.32Tarragonits-formi: Alison says how can you tell?
23:53.05cupishi all
23:53.08its-formiall that beer, chocolate and dodgy thai food after the gllug meetings
23:54.11TarragonAh. :-( So true. I will console myself with some chocolate.
23:58.40its-formihi cupis
23:58.56cupishey formi
23:59.22its-formiyou have scared everybody into silence!
23:59.28Jenson:)
23:59.29zimmhehe
23:59.34cupisits-formi: I have that effect on people :)

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