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01:27.11 | davilion | ibot ping |
01:27.11 | | pong |
01:27.23 | davilion | good evening ibot |
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01:37.35 | davilion | ibot weather |
01:43.14 | davilion | ibot lart those damn people with social lives |
02:05.03 | Tarragon | Pretty snow. |
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03:07.56 | formi | .. |
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07:47.45 | formi | .. |
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09:06.30 | Jenson | hi all |
09:10.54 | formi | mornin |
09:11.20 | formi | for some |
09:11.45 | Jenson | hey formi |
09:12.04 | Jenson | Sorry, I'm only awake this early coz Dan's coming round lol |
09:12.45 | Jenson | How are you anyway? |
09:13.04 | formi | in need of a bit of sleep |
09:14.48 | Jenson | Go to sleep mate :) |
09:17.37 | Jenson | Anyway I'm out of here. |
09:17.46 | Jenson | Goodnight formi. |
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09:26.28 | zachary | good morning |
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11:02.48 | davilion | ibot good morning |
11:02.49 | | davilion: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
11:03.05 | davilion | ibot: good morning is a contradiction in terms |
11:03.06 | | okay, davilion |
11:03.12 | skugg | morning |
11:03.17 | davilion | morning skugg |
11:03.18 | skugg | iboot good morning |
11:03.25 | skugg | aw. |
11:03.27 | skugg | damn :) |
11:03.32 | skugg | morning dav :) |
11:03.37 | davilion | hows it going? |
11:03.46 | skugg | okay, i'd say |
11:03.52 | skugg | you? |
11:04.04 | highbury | morning |
11:04.11 | skugg | i'm off for a shower and breakfast in a minute |
11:04.18 | skugg | hi highbury |
11:04.24 | davilion | im ok, just up, trying to decide what to do |
11:04.32 | davilion | although removing junk from car is top priority |
11:05.27 | highbury | seems, no more snow last night |
11:06.01 | davilion | yeah seems to be the worst of it has passed |
11:06.12 | Stephen | there's still a bit around here, but i suspect that it was yesterday's |
11:07.18 | davilion | anybody like placebo? |
11:07.25 | highbury | yep |
11:07.37 | highbury | are they still going? |
11:08.00 | davilion | yeah new tour starts soon, going ot book tickets |
11:08.06 | davilion | anybody else want to go? |
11:12.46 | skugg | awmygod, you've got to see this! http://home.online.no/~gremmem/engrish_ttt_captions/ |
11:13.30 | skugg | davilion, i've got one cd with them... but i think they get a bit nagging to tell the truth |
11:13.47 | skugg | davilion, when is it anyway? and where? I might want to go |
11:13.51 | skugg | s,go,come, |
11:17.23 | davilion | Tue 22/04/03, |
11:17.23 | davilion | 19:00 |
11:20.10 | skugg | hm. two days before my birthday. |
11:20.21 | skugg | i'm not sure though, i might be in norway by then. |
11:21.20 | skugg | it's easter break, no? and my project is due in early may, so i might be a bit busy :) (although it is probably good to take one evening off to do somethnig entirely different) |
11:25.40 | skugg | what is `date of easter' as returned by ncal? i never remember... first or last sunday of the holiday? |
11:56.55 | murble | moin |
12:00.18 | skugg | morning. i'm off to "do" the breakfast-thing now. |
12:00.21 | skugg | bbl. |
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12:19.54 | highbury | Tarragon: remember I mentioned a CD-Burner which printed on the disk too? Just found its name, Yamaha CRW-F1 running s/w called "DiscT@2" |
12:20.38 | murble | sounds like an expensive extravigenc |
12:23.42 | highbury | I think the prices are comparable with regular cd-rewriters |
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12:34.01 | highbury | £56.40 from Scan. Unfortunately for people who like to fill their disks, you can only tattoo unused portions of disk. |
12:36.06 | murble | hmm scam |
12:36.41 | eye69 | Scan really need to setup some form of stock status |
12:37.02 | eye69 | If I order something I want to know if it's in stock |
12:38.16 | highbury | I used to like Dabs, but they've also gone downhill. Trouble is people's first criteria is price, rather than customer service |
12:39.11 | eye69 | Last and only time I used Dabs it was good. |
12:39.38 | highbury | personally I'd prefer to go with Samsung combo drive, which for only a tenner more, will play DVD's |
12:40.17 | eye69 | When my burner dies I will cry, because you wont be able to get SCSI burners any more. |
12:40.37 | highbury | I've always been lucky, but I know people who haven't been. But stopping the helpline/orderline was a bit of a bummer |
12:40.46 | murble | I've still got scsi 2 speed burner,k in fact i t is my only cd burner as well |
12:41.05 | highbury | the Yamaha is available in SCSI, USB, USB+Firewire versions |
12:41.13 | eye69 | Got a Yamaha 16x10x40 |
12:41.36 | highbury | 44x24x44 |
12:42.37 | murble | and also requires going into london. |
12:43.02 | eye69 | I don't see the reason to have it burning any faster than say...20x. |
12:43.42 | eye69 | I think a lot of the burners out there are being forced to use the burnproof feature way too much. |
12:44.07 | highbury | I thing the latest ones are 52/54 x |
12:44.23 | highbury | eye69: what's the downside of that? |
12:45.15 | murble | what does the burnproof thing actually do |
12:45.17 | murble | ? |
12:46.05 | eye69 | murble: It's capable of pausing and resuming the burn within the required 60 microns (or something) |
12:48.06 | eye69 | highbury: <IDE RANT> IMO the IDE interface on many machines can't handle the speed, so the burner goes into burnproof a bunch of times during the burn </RANT> |
12:48.36 | highbury | so the CPU load goes up? |
12:48.54 | murble | so you get disks that don't work everywhere? |
12:49.18 | eye69 | The burner stops the burn, increasing the time it takes to burn. There must be a overhead restarting the burn after it has been paused. |
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12:50.35 | eye69 | murble: Might do. I'm not sure, but it can't be diiotproof. A disc which has been subjeccted to the BP feature can't be as good as one which hasn't. |
13:09.47 | zachary | Anyone using the 2003-01-20 build of knoppix? |
13:09.57 | stephen | i burn most CDs at 4x because that's the speed of the media, even though my burner is 40x12x48 |
13:10.25 | stephen | zachary: i will, once i get around to burning it |
13:11.06 | zachary | just wondering if there were any problems. |
13:13.46 | stephen | in fact, i only used the previous build once, before giving the CD to a windows using friend who wanted to try out linux but was too scared. Even after two weeks or so, he hasn't used it as he thinks it'll corupt his copy of windows or something |
13:17.17 | skugg | seen this page? --> http://nopaste.snit.ch:8000/ |
13:17.25 | skugg | ingenious idea really... |
13:30.12 | murble | zachary: yep |
13:30.30 | murble | and i've not seen any |
13:36.22 | highbury | zachary: they're all pretty trustworthy, so burn it if you've got a free cd. if you don't need it yet, there should (will probably) be a new one soon |
13:42.01 | highbury | skugg: quite cute, simple, in fact could be useful, I would be concerned about security or it being used for warez exchange |
13:42.17 | skugg | seen google today? :) (hint: chinese new year) |
13:42.37 | skugg | highbury, true. |
13:42.41 | skugg | nice idea though. |
13:43.30 | highbury | sort of thing to combine with a wiki perhaps |
13:45.36 | skugg | yeah. a way of registering to be able to use it would be preferable. |
13:47.28 | highbury | yeah, could be put on gllug website, and wiped daily, perhaps authenticate with gllug mailing list membership using passsword |
13:54.46 | skugg | something like that |
15:04.17 | highbury | anybody got access to estate car or car with roof rack, in North London, for Ikea run? |
15:10.15 | murble | nasa_space_shuttles--; // hmm |
15:11.44 | stephen | doesn't sound particularly good and the pieces of wreckage will probably be spread over a huge area as it was at 200k ft |
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15:20.32 | Leeds | just in case anyone is here and hasn't got the news on, put it on. it looks like the space shuttle has broken up on re-entry :-( |
15:21.17 | stephen | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2716369.stm |
15:21.27 | stephen | if you don't have a tv |
15:22.07 | Leeds | I've got CNN and streaming mission control on |
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15:26.14 | formi | afternoon |
15:26.59 | Leeds | hi |
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15:44.26 | formi | apologies for the shot chat |
15:44.38 | formi | s/shot/short |
15:46.08 | formi | leeds |
15:47.13 | Leeds | hi |
15:47.32 | formi | hi again |
15:47.57 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
15:48.41 | formi | are you @ the fosdem? |
15:50.04 | Leeds | next week |
15:50.30 | Leeds | not that they've got much to say, but I've got the TV on - watching the news |
15:50.33 | formi | me and dates, what a pair |
15:50.35 | murble | oh fosdem, i wonder if i'll make it |
15:51.04 | Leeds | I got my Eurostar tickets on Thursday |
15:52.36 | formi | could somebody help with some weird postfix alias expansion problem? |
15:53.09 | formi | I'm begging!!! |
15:54.48 | formi | basically every time a cron job is run, posfix goes mad trying to mail addresses |
15:55.14 | Leeds | may I suggest asking in a postfix help forum? |
15:55.16 | formi | for some reason is grabbing the name of the files in root, and using them as usernames |
15:55.38 | formi | there is no answer in both of them |
15:58.58 | Leeds | you asked on the postfix-users list? |
15:59.28 | murble | you can just turn up and buy tickets for eurostar can't you? |
16:01.23 | Leeds | probably in theory... but it's more expensive, and it's possible that popular times will be very busy and/or full |
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16:06.17 | Clyphox | re |
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16:10.31 | davilion | hello |
16:10.37 | zimm | hi davilion |
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16:59.00 | formi | I announce to the public "Im bloody stupid" |
16:59.15 | formi | you might even quote on that |
16:59.38 | formi | as act of proof |
16:59.48 | formi | i'll explain so its logged |
17:00.28 | formi | I spent the whole night trying to troublesoot the upgrade from sendmail to postfix |
17:01.15 | formi | mail was being sent to addresses starting with the names of the files in /root |
17:01.25 | Leeds | there was a * somewhere? |
17:01.37 | formi | one too many |
17:01.55 | Leeds | in the crontab line? :-) |
17:02.03 | formi | where else? |
17:03.41 | formi | im wondering why there is no checking done by crontab to prevent such a stupid problem |
17:07.46 | Leeds | there probably is in the bits it processes... the rest is just dumped to a shell |
17:08.12 | formi | im about to test it in freebsd to see what happens |
17:13.04 | formi | odd |
17:13.57 | formi | it does try to execute the files on root, but it stops in the 1st one and it doesn't send mails with the filenames as adresses |
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18:04.46 | murble | formi: you know about mail.conf etc? |
18:05.16 | formi | a bit |
18:05.24 | formi | enough to mess it up |
18:05.48 | formi | are you asking for help or offering it? |
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20:53.19 | zachary | good evening |
20:56.13 | highbury | evening |
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20:57.14 | highbury | Leeds: ever go to "Two Brothers" at Finchley Central? Luverly! :-) |
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21:11.35 | Jenson | Hi |
21:15.45 | highbury | hi |
21:15.54 | Jenson | hi highbury |
21:16.05 | Jenson | ibot seen davilion |
21:16.05 | | davilion is currently on #gllug (18m 58s) |
21:18.37 | davilion | hi Jenson |
21:18.49 | davilion | hows it going>? |
21:20.07 | Jenson | hi davilion I need to talk to you about something in a second |
21:20.14 | Jenson | BRB though |
21:21.38 | davilion | sounds ominous |
21:24.22 | Jenson | Isn't really |
21:24.24 | Jenson | but BRB |
21:24.51 | Jenson | WTF.....Dan keeps losing his fucking signal, damn trains |
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21:56.15 | Jenson | hi zimm |
21:56.24 | zimm | hey Jenson |
21:56.37 | zimm | quiet in here tonight .. |
21:56.47 | Jenson | BRB |
22:03.06 | eye69 | It runs Linux if I boot it with pci=conf1 |
22:09.06 | Jenson | back |
22:09.13 | Jenson | hey zimm, how are you? |
22:09.31 | zimm | tired .. |
22:09.38 | zimm | but ok :) |
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22:10.02 | Jenson | hey omphe |
22:10.29 | omphe | Hi Jenson. |
22:34.30 | Jenson | Grrrrrr my mailer has downloaded ever msg from gllug for the last few days about 6 times now I have over 3000 unread msgs |
22:36.26 | zachary | Jenson: Use the fuzzy cuffs today? |
22:36.37 | Jenson | zachary: Yeah lmao |
22:37.08 | Jenson | We spent most of the day discussing my behaviour arounf the rest of the guys when online |
22:37.44 | zachary | ok, I won't provoke you then. |
22:38.14 | Jenson | zachary: And I wouldnt flirt with you, you're married and have a little kid, and I'm assuming you love them both |
22:38.49 | zachary | yes, I do very much. |
22:38.57 | Jenson | :) |
22:43.21 | zachary | I'm going to bed. Good night all. |
22:43.27 | Jenson | Night zachary |
22:43.31 | omphe | g'night z |
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22:46.21 | Jenson | wb zimm |
22:46.28 | zimm | :) |
22:47.29 | Jenson | I'm so sleepy, but I can be bothered to get up to go to bed. |
22:48.05 | omphe | careful, you'll wake up with qwerty on your forehead. |
22:48.49 | Jenson | omphe: I've nevr done that yet, I have woken up with a phone charger cable wrapped round my neck/or earphones, or with my mobile by my head lol |
22:49.27 | omphe | trying for kde3 zimm? |
22:50.34 | zimm | ive been running CVS head for months ,, but debian just introduced libqt3c102 .. |
22:50.41 | zimm | which kinda broke my install |
22:50.58 | zimm | lol |
22:52.31 | Jenson | I blame the fact that Dan has been here all day. |
22:58.36 | Jenson | lol davilion arent we all |
22:59.27 | Jenson | davilion: Will you talk to Dan if you get your phone off divert and get him to call. |
23:00.53 | davilion | it shouldnt be on divert, but im not relaly in the mood for talking to anybody in person |
23:01.05 | davilion | im tired and moody. |
23:01.12 | Jenson | ok then |
23:02.12 | davilion | sorry, my patience isnt what it could and i'll just be crabby |
23:02.42 | Jenson | It's alright he'll catch you online. |
23:03.00 | davilion | k |
23:05.56 | Jenson | BRB - reconnecting |
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23:10.02 | davilion | wb |
23:10.11 | Jenson | ty davilion |
23:14.33 | davilion | im sure he's like onions |
23:15.15 | Jenson | What, a million different layers that all make you cry? |
23:15.43 | davilion | yeah |
23:15.47 | Leeds | like an ogre? |
23:15.53 | Jenson | hey Leeds |
23:15.59 | Leeds | evening |
23:16.01 | davilion | hi Leeds, long time no see |
23:16.17 | Jenson | He doesnt make me cry, well he did today, but only coz we had to discuss something, it was my fault. |
23:17.17 | Jenson | How are you Leeds? |
23:17.52 | Leeds | not bad... busy at work |
23:18.27 | Leeds | strange car stuff going on - I'm now in the middle of a row with the insurance company over the old one, and the radio and wireless door handles on the new one are knackered |
23:18.56 | Jenson | Oh what fun! Good luck wiht sorting that |
23:19.18 | Leeds | well, the new one will get sorted, since I've now had the car 5.5 days :-) |
23:19.50 | omphe | So it still has the new car "smell" |
23:20.03 | Leeds | the old one is... confusing... I called the insurance company this week and had a real go at them, and to their credit I have ended up with a woman who honestly seems to be trying to work out what the situation is and get stuff cleared up |
23:20.18 | Leeds | definitely new car smell :-) it's done about 130 miles... |
23:21.10 | eye69 | Leeds: What's the new one? |
23:21.19 | Leeds | Renault Megane |
23:21.25 | davilion | Leeds: cool,. |
23:21.29 | Leeds | indeed... |
23:21.32 | Jenson | Leeds: Insurance companies are a bit dumb sometimes |
23:21.39 | davilion | Leeds: thats one problerm with renaults, the locking systems are awful |
23:22.08 | Leeds | nah - the locks are all complicated and electronic... and *all* the door handle buttons are screwed |
23:22.17 | eye69 | I want a car, but can't afford it |
23:22.25 | davilion | ahh |
23:22.36 | Leeds | I actually think the problem with the old one is a combination of the garage trying to mess me around, and simple misunderstanding |
23:23.08 | Leeds | at least I got to answer the first question anyone has when I tell them about the wireless locks - "what happens if the battery goes?" - since I left the lights on last night :-( |
23:23.14 | eye69 | Sold mine two days before I moved to the UK |
23:23.37 | davilion | Leeds: the renault i have unlocks itself |
23:23.47 | Jenson | Leeds: That's more annoying than wireless mouses |
23:23.49 | Jenson | Mice even |
23:24.01 | Jenson | davilion: How many cars do you have? |
23:24.08 | Leeds | (it's a horrible thing, but the prices for *genuine, for-sale-before-this-morning* Columbia memorabilia on ebay has gone through the roof) |
23:24.13 | davilion | Jenson: 3.5 |
23:24.24 | Leeds | I've got 2 right now :-) |
23:24.25 | Jenson | Leeds: What a surprise |
23:24.35 | Jenson | davilion: My parents have 3.5 cars too lol |
23:24.40 | eye69 | I miss my Audi |
23:24.45 | davilion | Leeds: you can get into the battery without the keys |
23:24.50 | davilion | its just not as simple as unlocking the ar lol |
23:25.12 | eye69 | Audis don't seem to be very popular in the UK, or are they just very expensive? |
23:25.23 | davilion | eye69: just expensive |
23:25.27 | eye69 | davilion: Ok |
23:25.30 | Leeds | davilion: I know... use the mechanical emergency key to unlock the mechanical emergency lock, then use the mechanical bonnet release :-) |
23:25.32 | Jenson | We've had 2 Audis since I was about 10 |
23:25.35 | davilion | VW are more popular, since your getting an audi but paying less for it |
23:25.49 | Leeds | my dad's got an Audi... very nice, but I couldn't afford one... |
23:25.58 | davilion | Leeds: you have one of those? |
23:26.11 | eye69 | I had a -93 Audi 80 |
23:26.14 | Jenson | We have a BMW, and 2 and a half landrovers...I was meant to be getting a Vauxhall Nova of my own....but then I said I didnt want it |
23:26.24 | davilion | mine didnt have any locks on the outside until i had a new door fitted. |
23:26.30 | Leeds | davilion: one of what? |
23:26.36 | davilion | mechanical locks |
23:26.44 | davilion | there was no key whole on the outside of the car. |
23:26.46 | Leeds | yeah, hidden in the passenger door handle |
23:26.47 | Jenson | eye69: My dad had an Audi 100 Avant, and after that an Audi 80 |
23:26.55 | Leeds | you need to pull a cover off to get to it |
23:27.11 | eye69 | Even though it as very cheap Audi you could still feel the genuine quality |
23:27.17 | davilion | Leeds: ahh not so bad. |
23:27.24 | Jenson | BMWs are nice quality actually |
23:27.32 | Jenson | But ours is getting old and noisy |
23:27.41 | Leeds | and the corner of the keycard pulls off, with a key and the battery underneath |
23:27.44 | davilion | i now have alock on the outside of my car, some twonkle shunted the side of it, and the new UK door has a lock on it lol |
23:27.48 | davilion | so i have a lock on my passenger door |
23:27.54 | davilion | but it still unlocks itself |
23:27.58 | Jenson | And seen as we've just extended the house, we can't get another car yet |
23:28.03 | eye69 | I'd rather have an Audi than a BMW |
23:28.10 | Jenson | eye69: Why? |
23:28.36 | davilion | it depends on the audi/bmw, there are some bmw's i would rather have other other audis |
23:28.59 | Jenson | The 3.28 convertibles are nice BMWs |
23:29.08 | eye69 | A friend of mine has an Audi S4, and his wife has an tuned Audi S4 Avant |
23:29.24 | Jenson | My ex boy/fs sisters boy/f had one |
23:29.27 | Leeds | I had a renault 5 a few years back, and someone tried to nick it - damaged the passenger-side lock, enough that the lock came out a few weeks later... I drove it for months with no lock in the door - you just had to put a finger in and pull to get the door open... no-one tried to nick it then :-) |
23:29.52 | eye69 | The S4 has a lovable engine |
23:29.52 | davilion | Leeds: lol, my meastro had the same problem on the boot. |
23:30.01 | omphe | I used to have a jeep without door handles. |
23:30.07 | Jenson | Leeds: We have an old LandRover which only has locks on the rear door....mind you doors are an optional extra according to the specs |
23:30.20 | Leeds | that was when I was at school - I'd come out to find 3 friends sitting in the car waiting for me to drive them home :-) |
23:30.31 | Jenson | Leeds: What fun |
23:30.54 | eye69 | You would get a nice S4 -92-93 for about 8-8500 quid back in Sweden |
23:32.15 | davilion | right im off to bed. |
23:32.32 | Jenson | See ya davilion good night |
23:34.40 | *** join/#gllug dankolb (~dankolb@spookhive.demon.co.uk) |
23:35.08 | dankolb | hello people |
23:35.10 | dankolb | Hrm |
23:35.20 | omphe | <PROTECTED> |
23:35.25 | dankolb | Hiya |
23:35.32 | Leeds | evening |
23:35.38 | dankolb | Hi Leeds |
23:36.23 | Jenson | heya dankolb |
23:36.26 | dankolb | Hi Jenson |
23:37.00 | dankolb | ibot seen daviliion |
23:37.00 | | i haven't seen 'daviliion', dankolb |
23:37.03 | dankolb | ibot seen davilion |
23:37.03 | | davilion <davilion@irvines.plus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 4m 48s ago, saying: 'right im off to bed.'. |
23:37.17 | dankolb | :) |
23:37.23 | Jenson | he went to bed 2 secs befroe you arrived lol |
23:37.28 | dankolb | Bastard |
23:37.36 | dankolb | Just when I needed to talk to him, too |
23:37.54 | Jenson | Don't call my friend a bastard |
23:38.21 | dankolb | Was in the more jovial sense |
23:39.52 | Jenson | Oh good :) |
23:39.54 | Jenson | He's a twonkle not a bastard |
23:39.58 | Jenson | s/he rin/ her in |
23:40.07 | dankolb | Whatever |
23:40.08 | Leeds | fnar |
23:40.39 | Jenson | Does anyone know what Win filetype the .DVI extension is? |
23:41.19 | Leeds | I know what the *nix type .dvi is... |
23:41.29 | Jenson | I think it might be WGet |
23:41.37 | Leeds | wget? |
23:41.48 | Jenson | The d/l manager |
23:42.09 | Leeds | right, but how would filetype .dvi relate to wget? |
23:43.02 | Leeds | dvi on unix is the device-independent output from (la)tex - somewhat like pdf |
23:43.30 | Jenson | Well, thats the only thing I can think off |
23:43.31 | Jenson | Or it could be a Linux file |
23:43.33 | Jenson | its called report.dvi |
23:43.36 | Jenson | It doesnt actually matter, I'm just wondering |
23:43.50 | Leeds | where did the file come from? |
23:43.57 | Jenson | I dunno |
23:44.02 | Jenson | But it's def a Linux file |
23:44.12 | Jenson | Whatever it is, it's weird lol |
23:44.13 | Leeds | if you can load it onto a Linux box, run file against it - it'll try to guess what kind of file it is |
23:44.51 | Jenson | Well I changed the ext to .txt. and now it half shows as text but with Linux formatting |
23:44.57 | Jenson | I wanna know what it is lol |
23:45.11 | Leeds | what are the first few characters of it? |
23:45.22 | Jenson | ƒ’À; è TeX output 2002.11.24:2115‹ |
23:45.33 | Leeds | yeah, that'll be a unix dvi file then... |
23:45.41 | Jenson | Why have I got it on here lol |
23:45.44 | Leeds | the format has fallen by the wayside a little in recent years |
23:46.18 | Jenson | Its about computer sercurity or something |
23:46.29 | Jenson | I'm just not sure where I got it from or why |
23:47.01 | Leeds | hang on |
23:48.08 | dankolb | Thanks :) |
23:48.13 | murble | jenson: you need to use xdvi to view it |
23:49.02 | Jenson | murble: I just don't unserstand quite why I have an obvious Unix file on a Win machine that's all. |
23:51.13 | Leeds | Jenson: have a look at http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/windvi.html?action=/tex-archive/systems/win32/ |
23:51.37 | Jenson | ty Leeds |
23:51.59 | Leeds | no idea how good it is, but if you *must* use a legacy OS :-) |
23:52.29 | Jenson | I'll just load the file up on Slack |
23:53.14 | Jenson | Except that Slack is upstairs and I'm here |
23:53.28 | Jenson | I oughta format this and reinstall Win/Slack dual boot like I said I would |
23:53.35 | Leeds | vnc... |
23:53.42 | Leeds | or are you not networked yet? |
23:53.50 | Jenson | Except I have no clue how to partition for Win/Linux |
23:53.58 | Jenson | No Leeds I looked into it and got confused |
23:54.02 | dankolb | fdisk |
23:54.20 | omphe | or fips |
23:54.44 | Jenson | What, Win fdisk or Linux fdisk? |
23:54.49 | Leeds | LINUX! |
23:54.54 | dankolb | :) |
23:55.02 | Leeds | win fdisk assumes that nothing exists in the world except windows |
23:56.02 | Leeds | eh, I remember fips back in the old days when you had to calculate cylinder values by hand :-) |
23:56.12 | dankolb | On a pen and paper! |
23:56.19 | dankolb | With only white ink! |
23:57.05 | Leeds | well, yeah... the newer, wimpy versions let you give it Mb/Gb values, I think - not used it in years |
23:57.55 | omphe | I used it for my first install and was quite pleased. |