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01:27.11davilionibot ping
01:27.11pong
01:27.23daviliongood evening ibot
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01:37.35davilionibot weather
01:43.14davilionibot lart those damn people with social lives
02:05.03TarragonPretty snow.
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09:06.30Jensonhi all
09:10.54formimornin
09:11.20formifor some
09:11.45Jensonhey formi
09:12.04JensonSorry, I'm only awake this early coz Dan's coming round lol
09:12.45JensonHow are you anyway?
09:13.04formiin need of a bit of sleep
09:14.48JensonGo to sleep mate :)
09:17.37JensonAnyway I'm out of here.
09:17.46JensonGoodnight formi.
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09:26.28zacharygood morning
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11:02.48davilionibot good morning
11:02.49davilion: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ?
11:03.05davilionibot: good morning is a contradiction in terms
11:03.06okay, davilion
11:03.12skuggmorning
11:03.17davilionmorning skugg
11:03.18skuggiboot good morning
11:03.25skuggaw.
11:03.27skuggdamn :)
11:03.32skuggmorning dav :)
11:03.37davilionhows it going?
11:03.46skuggokay, i'd say
11:03.52skuggyou?
11:04.04highburymorning
11:04.11skuggi'm off for a shower and breakfast in a minute
11:04.18skugghi highbury
11:04.24davilionim ok, just up, trying to decide what to do
11:04.32davilionalthough removing junk from car is top priority
11:05.27highburyseems, no more snow last night
11:06.01davilionyeah seems to be the worst of it has passed
11:06.12Stephenthere's still a bit around here, but i suspect that it was yesterday's
11:07.18davilionanybody like placebo?
11:07.25highburyyep
11:07.37highburyare they still going?
11:08.00davilionyeah new tour starts soon, going ot book tickets
11:08.06davilionanybody else want to go?
11:12.46skuggawmygod, you've got to see this! http://home.online.no/~gremmem/engrish_ttt_captions/
11:13.30skuggdavilion, i've got one cd with them... but i think they get a bit nagging to tell the truth
11:13.47skuggdavilion, when is it anyway? and where? I might want to go
11:13.51skuggs,go,come,
11:17.23davilionTue 22/04/03,
11:17.23davilion19:00
11:20.10skugghm. two days before my birthday.
11:20.21skuggi'm not sure though, i might be in norway by then.
11:21.20skuggit's easter break, no? and my project is due in early may, so i might be a bit busy :) (although it is probably good to take one evening off to do somethnig entirely different)
11:25.40skuggwhat is `date of easter' as returned by ncal? i never remember...  first or last sunday of the holiday?
11:56.55murblemoin
12:00.18skuggmorning. i'm off to "do" the breakfast-thing now.
12:00.21skuggbbl.
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12:19.54highburyTarragon: remember I mentioned a CD-Burner which printed on the disk too? Just found its name, Yamaha CRW-F1 running s/w called "DiscT@2"
12:20.38murblesounds like an expensive extravigenc
12:23.42highburyI think the prices are comparable with regular cd-rewriters
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12:34.01highbury£56.40 from Scan. Unfortunately for people who like to fill their disks, you can only tattoo unused portions of disk.
12:36.06murblehmm scam
12:36.41eye69Scan really need to setup some form of stock status
12:37.02eye69If I order something I want to know if it's in stock
12:38.16highburyI used to like Dabs, but they've also gone downhill. Trouble is people's first criteria is price, rather than customer service
12:39.11eye69Last and only time I used Dabs it was good.
12:39.38highburypersonally I'd prefer to go with Samsung combo drive, which for only a tenner more, will play DVD's
12:40.17eye69When my burner dies I will cry, because you wont be able to get SCSI burners any more.
12:40.37highburyI've always been lucky, but I know people who haven't been. But stopping the helpline/orderline was a bit of a bummer
12:40.46murbleI've still got  scsi 2 speed burner,k in fact i t is my only cd burner as well
12:41.05highburythe Yamaha is available in SCSI, USB, USB+Firewire versions
12:41.13eye69Got a Yamaha 16x10x40
12:41.36highbury44x24x44
12:42.37murbleand also requires going into london.
12:43.02eye69I don't see the reason to have it burning any faster than say...20x.
12:43.42eye69I think a lot of the burners out there are being forced to use the burnproof feature way too much.
12:44.07highburyI thing the latest ones are 52/54 x
12:44.23highburyeye69: what's the downside of that?
12:45.15murblewhat does the burnproof thing actually do
12:45.17murble?
12:46.05eye69murble: It's capable of pausing and resuming the burn within the required 60 microns (or something)
12:48.06eye69highbury: <IDE RANT> IMO the IDE interface on many machines can't handle the speed, so the burner goes into burnproof a bunch of times during the burn </RANT>
12:48.36highburyso the CPU load goes up?
12:48.54murbleso you get disks that don't work everywhere?
12:49.18eye69The burner stops the burn, increasing the time it takes to burn. There must be a overhead restarting the burn after it has been paused.
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12:50.35eye69murble: Might do. I'm not sure, but it can't be diiotproof. A disc which has been subjeccted to the BP feature can't be as good as one which hasn't.
13:09.47zacharyAnyone using the 2003-01-20 build of knoppix?
13:09.57stepheni burn most CDs at 4x because that's the speed of the media, even though my burner is 40x12x48
13:10.25stephenzachary: i will, once i get around to burning it
13:11.06zacharyjust wondering if there were any problems.
13:13.46stephenin fact, i only used the previous build once, before giving the CD to a windows using friend who wanted to try out linux but was too scared.  Even after two weeks or so, he hasn't used it as he thinks it'll corupt his copy of windows or something
13:17.17skuggseen this page? --> http://nopaste.snit.ch:8000/
13:17.25skuggingenious idea really...
13:30.12murblezachary: yep
13:30.30murbleand i've not seen any
13:36.22highburyzachary: they're all pretty trustworthy, so burn it if you've got a free cd. if you don't need it yet, there should (will probably) be a new one soon
13:42.01highburyskugg: quite cute, simple, in fact could be useful, I would be concerned about security or it being used for warez exchange
13:42.17skuggseen google today? :) (hint: chinese new year)
13:42.37skugghighbury, true.
13:42.41skuggnice idea though.
13:43.30highburysort of thing to combine with a wiki perhaps
13:45.36skuggyeah. a way of registering to be able to use it would be preferable.
13:47.28highburyyeah, could be put on gllug website, and wiped daily, perhaps authenticate with gllug mailing list membership using passsword
13:54.46skuggsomething like that
15:04.17highburyanybody got access to estate car or car with roof rack, in North London, for Ikea run?
15:10.15murblenasa_space_shuttles--; // hmm
15:11.44stephendoesn't sound particularly good and the pieces of wreckage will probably be spread over a huge area as it was at 200k ft
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15:20.32Leedsjust in case anyone is here and hasn't got the news on, put it on.  it looks like the space shuttle has broken up on re-entry :-(
15:21.17stephenhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2716369.stm
15:21.27stephenif you don't have a tv
15:22.07LeedsI've got CNN and streaming mission control on
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15:26.14formiafternoon
15:26.59Leedshi
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15:44.26formiapologies for the shot chat
15:44.38formis/shot/short
15:46.08formileeds
15:47.13Leedshi
15:47.32formihi again
15:47.57formi<PROTECTED>
15:48.41formiare you @ the fosdem?
15:50.04Leedsnext week
15:50.30Leedsnot that they've got much to say, but I've got the TV on - watching the news
15:50.33formime and dates, what a pair
15:50.35murbleoh fosdem, i wonder if i'll make it
15:51.04LeedsI got my Eurostar tickets on Thursday
15:52.36formicould somebody help with some weird postfix alias expansion problem?
15:53.09formiI'm begging!!!
15:54.48formibasically every time a cron job is run, posfix goes mad trying to mail addresses
15:55.14Leedsmay I suggest asking in a postfix help forum?
15:55.16formifor some reason is grabbing the name of the files in root, and using them as usernames
15:55.38formithere is no answer in both of them
15:58.58Leedsyou asked on the postfix-users list?
15:59.28murbleyou can just turn up and buy tickets for eurostar can't you?
16:01.23Leedsprobably in theory... but it's more expensive, and it's possible that popular times will be very busy and/or full
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16:06.17Clyphoxre
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16:10.31davilionhello
16:10.37zimmhi davilion
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16:59.00formiI announce to the public "Im bloody stupid"
16:59.15formiyou might even quote on that
16:59.38formias act of proof
16:59.48formii'll explain so its logged
17:00.28formiI spent the whole night trying to troublesoot the upgrade from sendmail to postfix
17:01.15formimail was being sent to addresses starting with the names of the files in /root
17:01.25Leedsthere was a * somewhere?
17:01.37formione too many
17:01.55Leedsin the crontab line? :-)
17:02.03formiwhere else?
17:03.41formiim wondering why there is no checking done by crontab to prevent such a stupid problem
17:07.46Leedsthere probably is in the bits it processes... the rest is just dumped to a shell
17:08.12formiim about to test it in freebsd to see what happens
17:13.04formiodd
17:13.57formiit does try to execute the files on root, but it stops in the 1st one and it doesn't send mails with the filenames as adresses
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18:04.46murbleformi: you know about mail.conf etc?
18:05.16formia bit
18:05.24formienough to mess it up
18:05.48formiare you asking for help or offering it?
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20:53.19zacharygood evening
20:56.13highburyevening
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20:57.14highburyLeeds: ever go to "Two Brothers" at Finchley Central? Luverly! :-)
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21:11.35JensonHi
21:15.45highburyhi
21:15.54Jensonhi highbury
21:16.05Jensonibot seen davilion
21:16.05davilion is currently on #gllug (18m 58s)
21:18.37davilionhi Jenson
21:18.49davilionhows it going>?
21:20.07Jensonhi davilion I need to talk to you about something in a second
21:20.14JensonBRB though
21:21.38davilionsounds ominous
21:24.22JensonIsn't really
21:24.24Jensonbut BRB
21:24.51JensonWTF.....Dan keeps losing his fucking signal, damn trains
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21:56.15Jensonhi zimm
21:56.24zimmhey Jenson
21:56.37zimmquiet in here tonight ..
21:56.47JensonBRB
22:03.06eye69It runs Linux if I boot it with pci=conf1
22:09.06Jensonback
22:09.13Jensonhey zimm, how are you?
22:09.31zimmtired ..
22:09.38zimmbut ok :)
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22:10.02Jensonhey omphe
22:10.29ompheHi Jenson.
22:34.30JensonGrrrrrr my mailer has downloaded ever msg from gllug for the last few days about 6 times now I have over 3000 unread msgs
22:36.26zacharyJenson: Use the fuzzy cuffs today?
22:36.37Jensonzachary: Yeah lmao
22:37.08JensonWe spent most of the day discussing my behaviour arounf the rest of the guys when online
22:37.44zacharyok, I won't provoke you then.
22:38.14Jensonzachary: And I wouldnt flirt with you, you're married and have a little kid, and I'm assuming you love them both
22:38.49zacharyyes, I do very much.
22:38.57Jenson:)
22:43.21zacharyI'm going to bed. Good night all.
22:43.27JensonNight zachary
22:43.31ompheg'night z
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22:46.21Jensonwb zimm
22:46.28zimm:)
22:47.29JensonI'm so sleepy, but I can be bothered to get up to go to bed.
22:48.05omphecareful, you'll wake up with qwerty on your forehead.
22:48.49Jensonomphe: I've nevr done that yet, I have woken up with a phone charger cable wrapped round my neck/or earphones, or with my mobile by my head lol
22:49.27omphetrying for kde3 zimm?
22:50.34zimmive been running CVS head for months ,, but debian just introduced libqt3c102 ..
22:50.41zimmwhich kinda broke my install
22:50.58zimmlol
22:52.31JensonI blame the fact that Dan has been here all day.
22:58.36Jensonlol davilion arent we all
22:59.27Jensondavilion: Will you talk to Dan if you get your phone off divert and get him to call.
23:00.53davilionit shouldnt be on divert, but im not relaly in the mood for talking to anybody in person
23:01.05davilionim tired and moody.
23:01.12Jensonok then
23:02.12davilionsorry, my patience isnt what it could and i'll just be crabby
23:02.42JensonIt's alright he'll catch you online.
23:03.00davilionk
23:05.56JensonBRB - reconnecting
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23:10.02davilionwb
23:10.11Jensonty davilion
23:14.33davilionim sure he's like onions
23:15.15JensonWhat, a million different layers that all make you cry?
23:15.43davilionyeah
23:15.47Leedslike an ogre?
23:15.53Jensonhey Leeds
23:15.59Leedsevening
23:16.01davilionhi Leeds, long time no see
23:16.17JensonHe doesnt make me cry, well he did today, but only coz we had to discuss something, it was my fault.
23:17.17JensonHow are you Leeds?
23:17.52Leedsnot bad... busy at work
23:18.27Leedsstrange car stuff going on - I'm now in the middle of a row with the insurance company over the old one, and the radio and wireless door handles on the new one are knackered
23:18.56JensonOh what fun! Good luck wiht sorting that
23:19.18Leedswell, the new one will get sorted, since I've now had the car 5.5 days :-)
23:19.50ompheSo it still has the new car "smell"
23:20.03Leedsthe old one is... confusing...  I called the insurance company this week and had a real go at them, and to their credit I have ended up with a woman who honestly seems to be trying to work out what the situation is and get stuff cleared up
23:20.18Leedsdefinitely new car smell :-)  it's done about 130 miles...
23:21.10eye69Leeds: What's the new one?
23:21.19LeedsRenault Megane
23:21.25davilionLeeds: cool,.
23:21.29Leedsindeed...
23:21.32JensonLeeds: Insurance companies are a bit dumb sometimes
23:21.39davilionLeeds: thats one problerm with renaults, the locking systems are awful
23:22.08Leedsnah - the locks are all complicated and electronic...  and *all* the door handle buttons are screwed
23:22.17eye69I want a car, but can't afford it
23:22.25davilionahh
23:22.36LeedsI actually think the problem with the old one is a combination of the garage trying to mess me around, and simple misunderstanding
23:23.08Leedsat least I got to answer the first question anyone has when I tell them about the wireless locks - "what happens if the battery goes?" - since I left the lights on last night :-(
23:23.14eye69Sold mine two days before I moved to the UK
23:23.37davilionLeeds: the renault i have unlocks itself
23:23.47JensonLeeds: That's more annoying than wireless mouses
23:23.49JensonMice even
23:24.01Jensondavilion: How many cars do you have?
23:24.08Leeds(it's a horrible thing, but the prices for *genuine, for-sale-before-this-morning* Columbia memorabilia on ebay has gone through the roof)
23:24.13davilionJenson: 3.5
23:24.24LeedsI've got 2 right now :-)
23:24.25JensonLeeds: What a surprise
23:24.35Jensondavilion: My parents have 3.5 cars too lol
23:24.40eye69I miss my Audi
23:24.45davilionLeeds: you can get into the battery without the keys
23:24.50davilionits just not as simple as unlocking the ar lol
23:25.12eye69Audis don't seem to be very popular in the UK, or are they just very expensive?
23:25.23davilioneye69: just expensive
23:25.27eye69davilion: Ok
23:25.30Leedsdavilion: I know...  use the mechanical emergency key to unlock the mechanical emergency lock, then use the mechanical bonnet release :-)
23:25.32JensonWe've had 2 Audis since I was about 10
23:25.35davilionVW are more popular, since your getting an audi but paying less for it
23:25.49Leedsmy dad's got an Audi... very nice, but I couldn't afford one...
23:25.58davilionLeeds: you have one of those?
23:26.11eye69I had a -93 Audi 80
23:26.14JensonWe have a BMW, and 2 and a half landrovers...I was meant to be getting a Vauxhall Nova of my own....but then I said I didnt want it
23:26.24davilionmine didnt have any locks on the outside until i had a new door fitted.
23:26.30Leedsdavilion: one of what?
23:26.36davilionmechanical locks
23:26.44davilionthere was no key whole on the outside of the car.
23:26.46Leedsyeah, hidden in the passenger door handle
23:26.47Jensoneye69: My dad had an Audi 100 Avant, and after that an Audi 80
23:26.55Leedsyou need to pull a cover off to get to it
23:27.11eye69Even though it as very cheap Audi you could still feel the genuine quality
23:27.17davilionLeeds: ahh not so bad.
23:27.24JensonBMWs are nice quality actually
23:27.32JensonBut ours is getting old and noisy
23:27.41Leedsand the corner of the keycard pulls off, with a key and the battery underneath
23:27.44davilioni now have alock on the outside of my car, some twonkle shunted the side of it, and the new UK door has a lock on it lol
23:27.48davilionso i have a lock on my passenger door
23:27.54davilionbut it still unlocks itself
23:27.58JensonAnd seen as we've just extended the house, we can't get another car yet
23:28.03eye69I'd rather have an Audi than a BMW
23:28.10Jensoneye69: Why?
23:28.36davilionit depends on the audi/bmw, there are some bmw's i would rather have other other audis
23:28.59JensonThe 3.28 convertibles are nice BMWs
23:29.08eye69A friend of mine has an Audi S4, and his wife has an tuned Audi S4 Avant
23:29.24JensonMy ex boy/fs sisters boy/f had one
23:29.27LeedsI had a renault 5 a few years back, and someone tried to nick it - damaged the passenger-side lock, enough that the lock came out a few weeks later...  I drove it for months with no lock in the door - you just had to put a finger in and pull to get the door open... no-one tried to nick it then :-)
23:29.52eye69The S4 has a lovable engine
23:29.52davilionLeeds: lol, my meastro had the same problem on the boot.
23:30.01ompheI used to have a jeep without door handles.
23:30.07JensonLeeds: We have an old LandRover which only has locks on the rear door....mind you doors are an optional extra according to the specs
23:30.20Leedsthat was when I was at school - I'd come out to find 3 friends sitting in the car waiting for me to drive them home :-)
23:30.31JensonLeeds: What fun
23:30.54eye69You would get a nice S4 -92-93 for about 8-8500 quid back in Sweden
23:32.15davilionright im off to bed.
23:32.32JensonSee ya davilion good night
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23:35.08dankolbhello people
23:35.10dankolbHrm
23:35.20omphe<PROTECTED>
23:35.25dankolbHiya
23:35.32Leedsevening
23:35.38dankolbHi Leeds
23:36.23Jensonheya dankolb
23:36.26dankolbHi Jenson
23:37.00dankolbibot seen daviliion
23:37.00i haven't seen 'daviliion', dankolb
23:37.03dankolbibot seen davilion
23:37.03davilion <davilion@irvines.plus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 4m 48s ago, saying: 'right im off to bed.'.
23:37.17dankolb:)
23:37.23Jensonhe went to bed 2 secs befroe you arrived lol
23:37.28dankolbBastard
23:37.36dankolbJust when I needed to talk to him, too
23:37.54JensonDon't call my friend a bastard
23:38.21dankolbWas in the more jovial sense
23:39.52JensonOh good :)
23:39.54JensonHe's a twonkle not a bastard
23:39.58Jensons/he rin/ her in
23:40.07dankolbWhatever
23:40.08Leedsfnar
23:40.39JensonDoes anyone know what Win filetype the .DVI extension is?
23:41.19LeedsI know what the *nix type .dvi is...
23:41.29JensonI think it might be WGet
23:41.37Leedswget?
23:41.48JensonThe d/l manager
23:42.09Leedsright, but how would filetype .dvi relate to wget?
23:43.02Leedsdvi on unix is the device-independent output from (la)tex - somewhat like pdf
23:43.30JensonWell, thats the only thing I can think off
23:43.31JensonOr it could be a Linux file
23:43.33Jensonits called report.dvi
23:43.36JensonIt doesnt actually matter, I'm just wondering
23:43.50Leedswhere did the file come from?
23:43.57JensonI dunno
23:44.02JensonBut it's def a Linux file
23:44.12JensonWhatever it is, it's weird lol
23:44.13Leedsif you can load it onto a Linux box, run file against it - it'll try to guess what kind of file it is
23:44.51JensonWell I changed the ext to .txt. and now it half shows as text but with Linux formatting
23:44.57JensonI wanna know what it is lol
23:45.11Leedswhat are the first few characters of it?
23:45.22Jensonƒ’À;    è TeX output 2002.11.24:2115‹  
23:45.33Leedsyeah, that'll be a unix dvi file then...
23:45.41JensonWhy have I got it on here lol
23:45.44Leedsthe format has fallen by the wayside a little in recent years
23:46.18JensonIts about computer sercurity or something
23:46.29JensonI'm just not sure where I got it from or why
23:47.01Leedshang on
23:48.08dankolbThanks :)
23:48.13murblejenson: you need to use xdvi to view it
23:49.02Jensonmurble: I just don't unserstand quite why I have an obvious Unix file on a Win machine that's all.
23:51.13LeedsJenson: have a look at http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/windvi.html?action=/tex-archive/systems/win32/
23:51.37Jensonty Leeds
23:51.59Leedsno idea how good it is, but if you *must* use a legacy OS :-)
23:52.29JensonI'll just load the file up on Slack
23:53.14JensonExcept that Slack is upstairs and I'm here
23:53.28JensonI oughta format this and reinstall Win/Slack dual boot like I said I would
23:53.35Leedsvnc...
23:53.42Leedsor are you not networked yet?
23:53.50JensonExcept I have no clue how to partition for Win/Linux
23:53.58JensonNo Leeds I looked into it and got confused
23:54.02dankolbfdisk
23:54.20ompheor fips
23:54.44JensonWhat, Win fdisk or Linux fdisk?
23:54.49LeedsLINUX!
23:54.54dankolb:)
23:55.02Leedswin fdisk assumes that nothing exists in the world except windows
23:56.02Leedseh, I remember fips back in the old days when you had to calculate cylinder values by hand :-)
23:56.12dankolbOn a pen and paper!
23:56.19dankolbWith only white ink!
23:57.05Leedswell, yeah... the newer, wimpy versions let you give it Mb/Gb values, I think - not used it in years
23:57.55ompheI used it for my first install and was quite pleased.

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