| 00:00.06 | Jenson | Leeds: I'd never had managed to install Slack if it hadnt been in MB |
| 00:00.11 | Jenson | Doesnt work, although I dunno what i did ot it |
| 00:00.36 | omphe | Jenson: mine won't get the floppy spinnng. |
| 00:00.55 | omphe | s/spinnng/spinning/ |
| 00:01.12 | Jenson | omphe: You do have the drive connected right dont you |
| 00:01.17 | Jenson | Mine currently doesnt do anything |
| 00:01.35 | Jenson | I fixed it (found the processor was loose) and then it stippoed doing anything again |
| 00:01.45 | Jenson | Doesnt help the I think I have 2 dead HDDS |
| 00:01.45 | omphe | Yeah. Think the bios is fubar'd. |
| 00:02.01 | omphe | Don't have a HDD in mine. |
| 00:02.04 | omphe | yet! |
| 00:02.17 | Jenson | I have a dead 1GB, and a 2GB that I think is dead |
| 00:02.45 | Jenson | Which is shit coz it means I can't get that comouter running even if I figure out whats wronbg witgh it |
| 00:02.46 | omphe | size is irrelevant if they don't work. |
| 00:03.23 | Jenson | Yeah |
| 00:03.36 | Jenson | I'll go throw them at someone or something |
| 00:03.43 | omphe | bookends |
| 00:03.58 | omphe | short legs on tables... |
| 00:05.08 | Jenson | I'll make a sculpture....I have 2 spare quad CDROM drives and a floppy drive, 2 sticks of RAM, a mobo, a case.....hell a complelety disassembled P133 that I have no idea how to rebuild actually |
| 00:05.57 | omphe | Tis the witching hour. My dog should have preheated the duvet by now. |
| 00:06.08 | omphe | I'm turning in. Goodnight all. |
| 00:06.14 | Jenson | See ya omphe |
| 00:13.01 | Leeds | I've got two leg layers on and three torso layers... I don't think my heating is working right |
| 00:13.26 | Jenson | My heating is off |
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| 00:13.32 | Jenson | probably went off at 21:30 |
| 00:13.51 | dankolb | hi Paul |
| 00:14.19 | cupis | hi dankolb |
| 00:14.24 | cupis | evening all |
| 00:14.30 | Leeds | mine has been on permanently since Thursday evening |
| 00:14.53 | Jenson | That isnt normal Leeds |
| 00:16.27 | Leeds | what, lots of layers, or heating on for 2 days? |
| 00:16.34 | Leeds | it's 17 degrees in here... |
| 00:16.35 | Jenson | Both |
| 00:16.58 | Jenson | It cant be all that warm in here....pcs at 23 degrees.....runs at 26 when the heatings on |
| 00:17.10 | dankolb | That's fairly reasonable, though |
| 00:18.48 | Jenson | Does anyone know why I'm incapable of gettign ther ignore command to work lol |
| 00:19.02 | dankolb | Coz you don't really want to ignore that particular person? |
| 00:19.35 | Jenson | No, coz I'm a complete twonkle! |
| 00:19.40 | zimm | lol |
| 00:19.45 | Jenson | :) zimm |
| 00:20.01 | dankolb | Hi zimm |
| 00:20.08 | zimm | hey dankolb |
| 00:20.47 | dankolb | :-) |
| 00:20.48 | zimm | laters |
| 00:20.53 | Jenson | Leeds: Did you have to mention heating I feel cold now |
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| 00:21.07 | dankolb | Jenson: Go to bed then? |
| 00:21.13 | Jenson | Awww he actually managed to go to bed lol |
| 00:21.28 | dankolb | :) |
| 00:21.41 | Jenson | And he actually said bye to me :) |
| 00:21.52 | dankolb | Doesn't he usually? |
| 00:22.28 | Jenson | Well he disappeared.....but he was still on query |
| 00:22.38 | dankolb | ah right |
| 00:24.40 | Jenson | dankolb: I would go to bed, but I don't think I've got the energy to move that far :) |
| 00:24.55 | dankolb | I'm not travelling another 3 hours just to pick you up and carry you |
| 00:25.18 | Jenson | Awwwww |
| 00:27.19 | Leeds | no bloody dedication |
| 00:27.34 | Jenson | Are you offering Leeds? |
| 00:30.31 | Leeds | well no, but then it's not *my* job :-) |
| 00:30.45 | Jenson | True :) |
| 00:33.24 | dankolb | Yeah you would |
| 00:33.35 | Jenson | I woudlnt |
| 00:34.44 | dankolb | 'night then |
| 00:35.20 | dankolb | :-) |
| 00:35.20 | Jenson | See ya Dan |
| 00:35.21 | dankolb | Thanks |
| 00:35.22 | dankolb | C'ya |
| 00:35.24 | Jenson | See ya Leeds |
| 00:35.30 | Leeds | g'night... |
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| 00:35.35 | Leeds | some git has broken 6music |
| 00:35.38 | dankolb | D'oh |
| 00:35.42 | Leeds | put a fucking dance program on :-( |
| 00:35.59 | dankolb | :-( |
| 00:36.00 | dankolb | Sucks |
| 00:36.15 | Leeds | I shall have to complain... |
| 00:36.25 | dankolb | Good idea |
| 00:47.11 | dankolb | Bedtime |
| 00:47.12 | dankolb | 'night |
| 00:47.38 | cupis | night dankolb |
| 00:47.45 | cupis | duh! |
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| 00:48.06 | will_ | Hello |
| 00:48.16 | stephen | hello |
| 00:48.21 | will_ | anyone want to helo me with an IPtables question? |
| 00:48.23 | will_ | :) |
| 00:49.12 | stephen | at this time of the morning, i would doubt it, though people further west in other channels might |
| 00:49.22 | Leeds | you can try us... (me?) |
| 00:49.41 | will_ | OK. |
| 00:49.42 | stephen | oh a willing victim, i do apologise |
| 00:49.50 | will_ | I have two rules only at the moment: |
| 00:49.59 | will_ | $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp --destination-port ssh -j ACCEPT |
| 00:50.08 | will_ | $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p udp -i eth0 --destination-port snmp -j DROP |
| 00:50.26 | will_ | the script runs fine and iptables -L -v shows this: |
| 00:50.46 | will_ | Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 14221 packets, 840K bytes) |
| 00:50.46 | will_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.46 | will_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.46 | will_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.57 | will_ | but when I do an nmap: |
| 00:51.03 | will_ | (from a different box) |
| 00:51.24 | will_ | nmap -sU <server> -p 161 |
| 00:51.32 | will_ | it says that the port is open. |
| 00:51.48 | will_ | Any ideas? |
| 00:51.48 | Leeds | 161 being snmp, I guess... |
| 00:51.53 | will_ | Yep |
| 00:52.42 | Leeds | first thing is that the *only* effect that 'firewall' will have at the moment is blocking snmp, since everything else is accepted... you probably want to change the default to deny, then you can forget the snmp rule anyway |
| 00:53.11 | will_ | Yes, I was testing it out as I only have access remotely |
| 00:53.17 | Leeds | okay... |
| 00:53.29 | will_ | I will eventually put a more comprehensive firewall in there though |
| 00:54.06 | will_ | this is to let me sleep easy ;-) |
| 00:54.11 | Leeds | the other thing is that I'm not sure what the interaction between nmap and iptables is going to be, particularly since you've got it set to DROP - I think that means something like "accept the packet, but don't deliver it to userspace" - so nmap might see it at open |
| 00:55.13 | will_ | Aaaaaah, yeah, udp, so if the packet is accepted then nmap thinks that it is open because it didn't get explicitly denied. |
| 00:55.19 | will_ | or something |
| 00:55.59 | Leeds | that could be it - I'm not sure |
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| 00:56.48 | will_ | OK, thanks, I will check that out |
| 01:08.19 | will_ | Leeds, you here? |
| 01:08.58 | Leeds | yup |
| 01:09.08 | will_ | I added logging to the snmp rule |
| 01:09.23 | will_ | it logged then dropped all upd for the snmp port |
| 01:09.29 | will_ | and it looks like it is working: |
| 01:09.30 | will_ | Feb 2 02:07:47 p15114251 kernel: UDP Drop IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:20:ed:62:93:bb:00:00:5a:9d:08:10:08:00 SRC=212.56.100.49 DST=217.160.172.218 LEN=28 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=43 ID=39566 PROTO=UDP SPT=61578 DPT=161 LEN=8 |
| 01:09.59 | Leeds | cool |
| 01:10.18 | will_ | Thanks for setting me on the right track :-) |
| 01:10.44 | Leeds | glad to help :-) |
| 01:19.42 | will_ | $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p udp -i eth0 --destination-port snmp -j REJECT |
| 01:19.54 | will_ | that gets a flat out 'port is closed' message from nmap |
| 01:20.06 | will_ | even better |
| 01:20.30 | Leeds | yeah |
| 01:54.24 | murble | reject has the annance of sending out lots of ICMP unreachables and stuff |
| 01:54.38 | murble | which isn't nice. |
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| 02:37.26 | resuDaed_ssh | anyone awake? |
| 02:49.03 | resuDaed_ssh | if anyone knows the location of the source for kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4 could you please mail it to me (tom-t(at)talk21.com) |
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| 08:59.43 | zachary | good morning |
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| 12:23.43 | dankolb | hello |
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| 12:26.49 | stephen | wb dankolb and zimm |
| 12:26.53 | zimm | :) |
| 12:26.58 | dankolb | Hi stephen, zimm |
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| 12:28.55 | dankolb | hi formi |
| 12:31.54 | formi | hello |
| 12:39.30 | resuDaed_Brian | afternoon all |
| 12:39.36 | dankolb | hi |
| 12:40.00 | formi | hi |
| 12:40.36 | resuDaed_Brian | does anyone know where I can find the source tre for kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4 |
| 12:40.57 | resuDaed_Brian | it doesn't seem to exist anywhere |
| 12:42.31 | zimm | resuDaed_Brian: just use a vanilla 2.4.18 |
| 12:43.06 | zimm | resuDaed_Brian: or it might be on apt |
| 12:43.17 | resuDaed_Brian | I have tried it, but the nividia drivers refuse to compile without the source tree for the exact kernel you are using |
| 12:43.44 | resuDaed_Brian | (these drivers were compiled for kernel 2.4.18 while you are using 2.4.18-bf2.4 |
| 12:43.58 | resuDaed_Brian | roughly |
| 12:44.26 | resuDaed_Brian | that is after I downloaded the 2.4.18 source |
| 12:56.50 | zimm | hmm |
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| 12:58.22 | zimm | resuDaed_Brian: hmm |
| 12:58.35 | zimm | you could try edditing the makefile |
| 12:59.43 | murble | moin |
| 13:11.28 | zimm | resuDaed_Brian: hehe , give me your root pass , and ill have a go at it for ya :-) |
| 13:12.14 | resuDaed_Brian | zimm: whats your email? |
| 13:12.22 | zimm | zimm@fudo.org |
| 13:14.41 | resuDaed_Brian | ok, you should have an email |
| 13:14.55 | resuDaed_Brian | its the pwd in the email + ig2n6u |
| 13:15.05 | resuDaed_Brian | hostname is stolen.servehttp.com |
| 13:15.09 | zimm | k |
| 13:23.37 | resuDaed | zimm: email come through? |
| 13:24.53 | zimm | resuDaed: yeah man , im in .. |
| 13:25.03 | zimm | lost my connection for a bit though is all |
| 13:25.25 | zimm | can you dump clean Nvidia tarballs in /usr/src please :-) |
| 13:26.26 | zimm | resuDaed: ?? |
| 13:28.50 | zimm | no mkatter .. |
| 13:28.53 | zimm | ill wget em |
| 13:30.23 | resuDaed | sorry, playing with x |
| 13:30.27 | resuDaed | :-) |
| 13:32.21 | zimm | np |
| 13:32.34 | resuDaed | I have fresh tarballs on the hd already |
| 13:33.00 | zimm | heh , got em now anyway .. |
| 13:33.50 | resuDaed | I just dumped in /usr/src |
| 13:34.11 | zimm | :-) |
| 13:34.16 | resuDaed | feel 10lb lighter |
| 13:34.21 | zimm | lol |
| 13:37.01 | zimm | ok , which of the various dirs in /usr/src is your actual kernel tree ? |
| 13:40.54 | resuDaed | thats my problem ... I don't actually have a kernel tree ... my kernel ver is 2.4.18-bf2.4, but I have been able to get hold of the source for that kernel, so linux is a link to 2.4.18 |
| 13:41.34 | resuDaed | or was |
| 13:41.37 | zimm | resuDaed: ok , lets do this clean .,, |
| 13:41.58 | resuDaed | would help |
| 13:42.05 | resuDaed | I am not using 2.4.20 |
| 13:42.13 | zimm | you will be in a few minutes |
| 13:42.20 | zimm | :-) |
| 13:42.22 | resuDaed | good luck :-) |
| 13:42.43 | zimm | well , i couldnt get anything older than that to build with gcc3.2 |
| 13:42.53 | zimm | and you really need a new kernel .. so .. |
| 13:43.04 | zimm | ok .. care to /msg soem system specs ? |
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| 13:50.11 | omphe | Hello all. |
| 13:50.16 | resuDaed | hi omphe |
| 13:51.19 | resuDaed | lol |
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| 13:52.57 | Clyphox | hi |
| 13:53.19 | resuDaed | afternoon Clyphox |
| 13:53.21 | omphe | hello Clyphox |
| 13:53.39 | resuDaed | Clyphox : having a break from UT? |
| 13:54.46 | Clyphox | yup.. reading email |
| 13:54.51 | Clyphox | heya omphe |
| 13:55.03 | Clyphox | My DNS stll hasn't updated :( |
| 13:55.30 | resuDaed | still? you tried phoning them? |
| 13:55.37 | Clyphox | I'm going to on Monday. |
| 13:56.43 | resuDaed | is there anyway of stopping a process, then bringing it to the foreground on an ssh connection or even another console? |
| 14:02.32 | omphe | Jesus, what stunted miniature leprechaun designs computer cases? |
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| 14:03.20 | Clyphox | resuDaed, ^Z |
| 14:03.24 | Clyphox | then type fg |
| 14:03.29 | Clyphox | I think.. |
| 14:03.40 | Clyphox | or use screen |
| 14:03.45 | resuDaed | that will only start it from the same session (I have already tried it) |
| 14:03.56 | Clyphox | try screen |
| 14:04.45 | resuDaed | I have it, I will play with later :) |
| 14:06.08 | resuDaed | hash browns, sausages, beans (with yet more sausages) been found so far |
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| 14:50.10 | omphe | wb resuDaed |
| 14:53.09 | resuDaed | ty |
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| 15:42.33 | zimm | grrrr |
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| 17:17.00 | zimm | hmm , if my connection dies before he comes back can someone tell resuDaed_Yawa that his box is refusing to compile a kernel .. or modules or err anything .. |
| 17:18.00 | zimm | i'll build it here and email it to him :-) |
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| 17:31.22 | SpudUAway | Hi J |
| 17:31.35 | Jenson | Hey SpudUAway |
| 17:32.03 | SpudULike | You having a fab weekend? |
| 17:32.03 | Jenson | I just selectivally deleted a few files.....went from 3GB of crap to about 650MB |
| 17:32.10 | Jenson | Yeah sorta |
| 17:32.19 | SpudULike | So, you are having a fab weekend! |
| 17:32.24 | SpudULike | ;-) |
| 17:32.25 | Jenson | :) |
| 17:32.43 | SpudULike | So, what's left in that 650 Mb? |
| 17:32.50 | Jenson | I'm about to backup, then format, then reinstall Win (and dualboot Slack if my dad tusts me) |
| 17:33.08 | SpudULike | Don't tell him! |
| 17:33.14 | Jenson | Pictures, MP3s that weren't previously backed up |
| 17:33.28 | Jenson | SpudULike: Yeah but I'm not quite sure what I'm doing with the partitioning |
| 17:33.38 | SpudULike | Don't even run with a bootloader from hard disk, just rely on a boot floppy for your Slack fix. He'll be none the wiser! |
| 17:33.54 | Jenson | I know hwo to use Linux fdisk to partition for Linux, but not for Linux and Win |
| 17:34.04 | Jenson | SpudULike: He won't mind aslong as I know what I'm doiung |
| 17:34.23 | SpudULike | ...Or at least seem to know what you are doing. |
| 17:34.38 | SpudULike | Happy New Year, room, by the way. |
| 17:35.02 | Jenson | Have you ever done a dualboot? |
| 17:35.23 | SpudULike | Yes, I've done lots of dual boots. |
| 17:35.28 | Jenson | With Slack? |
| 17:35.49 | SpudULike | No, not with Slack, but I have set the partitions up with fdisk. |
| 17:36.06 | SpudULike | What size drive is it? |
| 17:36.12 | Jenson | 19GB |
| 17:36.37 | Jenson | I'm thinking about 10GB for Win, and the other 9GB for Slack and the swap |
| 17:36.40 | SpudULike | And you want to give how much to Windows? 2 - 2.5Gb? |
| 17:36.48 | SpudULike | 10G!!!!!!!! |
| 17:36.53 | SpudULike | Cough cough. |
| 17:36.56 | Jenson | lol |
| 17:37.01 | Jenson | My parents wont use Linux |
| 17:37.13 | Jenson | And knowing me I'll use Win most of the time |
| 17:37.24 | Jenson | Plus I have about 3GB or Win games to install |
| 17:37.28 | Jenson | s/or/of |
| 17:37.53 | SpudULike | Nah, you won't. You will learn. Linux guys are more cute! |
| 17:37.59 | SpudULike | ... well, most of them. |
| 17:38.23 | Jenson | :) |
| 17:38.49 | SpudULike | So, do you know how you are going to divide up the disk? |
| 17:39.00 | Jenson | II have no idea what I'm doing actually |
| 17:39.13 | Jenson | All I know is Win has to be first on the disk coz it thinks it owns the place |
| 17:40.33 | SpudULike | Which HOW-TOs have you read on the subject? |
| 17:40.48 | Jenson | BRB |
| 17:41.50 | SpudULike | Are you going to be reformatting the machine which you are using for your 'net connection. If you get stuck half way through, will you still be able to shout for help? |
| 17:44.08 | Jenson | back |
| 17:44.15 | Jenson | Yeah, my mother has an XP laptop |
| 17:44.26 | Jenson | I shall nick it |
| 17:44.27 | Jenson | lol |
| 17:45.08 | SpudULike | You should, just so it can be rid of that corrupting software. |
| 17:45.08 | Jenson | It hadn't occured to me to look at the HOW-TOs, I'll do that |
| 17:45.20 | Jenson | My parent love XP |
| 17:45.23 | Jenson | parents |
| 17:45.42 | SpudULike | They know no better. My mother likes Country and Western. |
| 17:45.48 | Jenson | lol |
| 17:45.58 | SpudULike | No, it's far from a laughing matter. |
| 17:46.12 | SpudULike | She used to make me listen to it when I was bad. |
| 17:46.19 | Jenson | awww :), but I'm guessning you don't live with your mother now |
| 17:46.22 | SpudULike | I stopped being bad very quickly. |
| 17:47.07 | SpudULike | No, don't live with her, but she has been known to phone me up in the middle of the night just to play some Jim Reaves at me, just to keep me on my toes! |
| 17:47.13 | Jenson | There is one more thing that confuses me about the dualboot procees. |
| 17:47.37 | SpudULike | Go on. |
| 17:47.56 | Jenson | How does Win know to install on the first partition, and Linux know to install on the second? |
| 17:48.21 | SpudULike | You will tell it when you are doing the installation of both. |
| 17:48.29 | SpudULike | What Windows are you installing? |
| 17:48.35 | Jenson | Win98SE |
| 17:49.12 | SpudULike | Have you made a Windows boot floppy? |
| 17:49.12 | Jenson | or I could do Win95, but I'd rather not. |
| 17:49.26 | Jenson | Yeah I've got one (or 3 lol) somewhere |
| 17:49.40 | SpudULike | SOMEWHERE! |
| 17:49.56 | SpudULike | Preparation is the key to this malarkey you know! |
| 17:50.04 | Jenson | Yeah, like next to my Slack machine, covered in bits of chocolate orange lol |
| 17:51.06 | SpudULike | Test that it works! |
| 17:51.31 | SpudULike | Are you sure your copy of Win98 is bootable? |
| 17:51.49 | resuDaed_Yawa | ibot seen zimm |
| 17:51.49 | | zimm <~plato@public2-bror1-4-cust195.bror.broadband.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 33m 49s ago, saying: 'i'll build it here and email it to him :-)'. |
| 17:52.13 | Jenson | SpudULike: I've done Win installs before :) |
| 17:52.48 | SpudULike | Ah, but, have you let Windows do all of the work of installing before? |
| 17:52.54 | Jenson | I have my CDROM drive setup disk and my Win95 start up disk....think I best go fdind my 98 one |
| 17:52.59 | Jenson | SpudULike: Yeah I'm bloody lazy |
| 17:53.04 | Jenson | I've done a Slack install too |
| 17:53.13 | resuDaed | I used a config files and network installs |
| 17:53.15 | resuDaed | evening Jenson |
| 17:53.15 | Jenson | resuDaed: I think I've don 3 Win installs lol |
| 17:54.50 | Jenson | Hey resuDaed |
| 17:55.05 | SpudULike | Doing the WinXX install, you probably need to select an expect installation, otherwise it will just take the whole hard disk, not just the partition you have put aside for it. |
| 17:55.28 | Jenson | SpudULike: I can do that |
| 17:55.31 | Jenson | I think |
| 17:55.41 | Jenson | If I make a mess it doesnt matter really |
| 17:55.57 | Jenson | My dad doesnt use the pc, and my mother loves her new XP laptop, it'd only be me who lost out. |
| 17:57.12 | Jenson | resuDaed: I'm gonna be iinstalling 98SE |
| 17:57.37 | Jenson | Are all internal modems Winmodems BTW? |
| 17:57.39 | SpudULike | OK, well, how many partitions are you going to make? |
| 17:58.01 | SpudULike | No, if it is an ISA modem card, you're ok. |
| 17:58.04 | Jenson | SpudULike: I was thinking 3....coz I don't really understand the whole thing of having more than 2 Linux partitions |
| 17:58.29 | SpudULike | And what were those 2 Linux partitions for? |
| 17:58.33 | resuDaed | (Me = 98 underneath with some extra GUI bits) |
| 17:58.48 | Jenson | SpudULike: One for Slack, one for Slack swap |
| 17:59.23 | resuDaed | I know a song that'll get on your nerves ... |
| 17:59.29 | Jenson | I have an ext modem, just not currently on this machine |
| 17:59.48 | SpudULike | OK. Are you sure you don't want a separate /home partition. Be easier for you to convert to Debian when the time comes! |
| 17:59.57 | Jenson | I think its PCI |
| 18:00.07 | resuDaed | prolly a winmodem then |
| 18:00.15 | Jenson | SpudULike: Dan said about seperate /home partiton but i dont understand |
| 18:00.27 | SpudULike | Nah, there is still hope it might work. |
| 18:01.05 | Jenson | Yeah its a Conexant PCI Modem Enumarator |
| 18:01.11 | Jenson | Never had a problem with it with Win though |
| 18:01.14 | Jenson | Damn nice modem |
| 18:01.18 | SpudULike | If you have /home on a separate partition it is easier for you to move it, or at the very least, preserve it. |
| 18:01.29 | resuDaed | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:01.48 | SpudULike | No, Win has never had a problem with the drivers that the card manufacturer have provided! |
| 18:01.55 | Jenson | How do you specify that /home goes on a seperate partition? |
| 18:01.55 | resuDaed | also means that the system wont uffer problems if your home dir gets too big (like mine) |
| 18:02.11 | Jenson | resuDaed: How embarrassing, you know more than me and you are the same age :P |
| 18:02.22 | resuDaed | when installing, configure an additional partition, then when you are asked where to mount it, specify /home |
| 18:02.41 | SpudULike | How much memory has the machine got? |
| 18:02.51 | Jenson | 128MB |
| 18:03.01 | resuDaed | zimm thwaped my RAM |
| 18:03.04 | resuDaed | :( |
| 18:03.18 | SpudULike | And if another 128Mb simm came your way, would you put it in the machine? |
| 18:03.33 | resuDaed | btw, someone was supposed to tell me he was going to compile for me and email |
| 18:03.33 | Jenson | 700MHz 128MB ATI 128 Rage Pro graphics |
| 18:03.54 | Jenson | No SpudULike I'm not good with hardware, I've killed to machines in the last month trying to change RAM/HDDS |
| 18:04.11 | Jenson | Anyway |
| 18:04.12 | SpudULike | Jenson: It's your electric personality! |
| 18:04.13 | resuDaed | Jenson : in short, don't touch metal bits |
| 18:04.50 | resuDaed | would allow me to compile my own damn kernels |
| 18:05.21 | SpudULike | even |
| 18:07.44 | Jenson | Doing some DIY lol would be a good euphamism though :P |
| 18:08.00 | Jenson | resuDaed: Did you visit your g/f? |
| 18:08.23 | resuDaed | Jenson : she came here |
| 18:08.43 | Jenson | Sweet, did you have fun ;-) |
| 18:08.52 | resuDaed | of course |
| 18:09.03 | Jenson | Oh good :) |
| 18:09.09 | Jenson | Dan was here Satuday |
| 18:09.14 | resuDaed | fun? |
| 18:09.17 | Jenson | Yeah |
| 18:09.21 | resuDaed | (to meet your parents?) |
| 18:09.27 | Jenson | Except when we had a discussion and I cried |
| 18:09.31 | Jenson | He's met my parent before |
| 18:09.35 | Jenson | parents |
| 18:09.36 | Jenson | l;ol |
| 18:09.37 | Jenson | damn s |
| 18:09.37 | resuDaed | a 'discussion' |
| 18:10.05 | Jenson | Yeah a 'discussion', about me flirting, specifically with you, Ross and davilion |
| 18:10.34 | Jenson | Ross is zimm BTW |
| 18:11.11 | Jenson | But I think we've finally sorted that out. |
| 18:11.14 | Jenson | Only taken about a week. |
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| 18:14.05 | resuDaed_ssh | thank god for putty |
| 18:14.18 | Jenson | Yeah |
| 18:14.59 | Jenson | I'm trying to remember if I have an installation disc for my printer or not...coz I need to instal it on my mothers laptop and I dont have an XP disc to install it from |
| 18:16.46 | Jenson | I'm dumb, I forgot i can just d/l the drivers, silly me |
| 18:18.14 | resuDaed_ssh | whenever you install windows (disk spcae providing), copy the dir with the .cab files (\WIN98 for windows 98) to the root of the harddisk then run regedit and search for "X:\WIN98" (replacing X with your cd-drive @ time of installation), change it to C:\WIN98, set the directory to be hidden, close regedit and you'll never need the cd for drivers again |
| 18:18.48 | Jenson | I knew that :) |
| 18:18.52 | resuDaed_ssh | I think is "X:\i386" for NT4, prolly same for 2k and in theory XP |
| 18:19.11 | resuDaed_ssh | 2k = NT5, XP = NT5.5 |
| 18:19.26 | Jenson | But the laptop was provided by the county (my mum is a teacher) |
| 18:21.06 | resuDaed_ssh | and? |
| 18:21.17 | resuDaed_ssh | your mother is allowed to use the hdd |
| 18:21.43 | Jenson | Yeah but thew XP disc wasnt provided |
| 18:22.54 | resuDaed_ssh | SOB's, their may be a hidden partition on the HDD then with it on, o/wise nick someone elses disk to copy he files (they're all the same:) |
| 18:23.18 | Jenson | Yeah I know |
| 18:23.22 | Jenson | I'm used to Win :) |
| 18:23.32 | Jenson | I dont really care though |
| 18:23.58 | Jenson | grrrrrr damn systsmes crashing agin |
| 18:24.01 | Jenson | again |
| 18:24.37 | resuDaed_ssh | thought you were used to it :- |
| 18:24.38 | resuDaed_ssh | ) |
| 18:24.40 | Jenson | It's all unstable today! |
| 18:24.41 | resuDaed_ssh | BRB |
| 18:24.43 | Jenson | k |
| 18:24.49 | resuDaed_ssh | was windows ever stable? |
| 18:24.55 | Jenson | I had got it stable yeah |
| 18:25.20 | resuDaed | back |
| 18:25.25 | Jenson | wb |
| 18:25.34 | Jenson | It's not letting me load any programs right now lol |
| 18:25.45 | Jenson | and it closed the browser when i'd just found what i'd looking for |
| 18:26.31 | Jenson | lol |
| 18:26.50 | Jenson | Correction, it isnt letting me load IE, so I'll have to use MOz |
| 18:27.10 | resuDaed | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.22 | resuDaed | you tried to load IE? trator |
| 18:27.28 | Jenson | I like IE |
| 18:27.36 | Jenson | Except it can be a little unstable |
| 18:27.40 | resuDaed | the best part is that when IE crashes, it brings down the whole system |
| 18:27.58 | Jenson | Mine used to that about every 30 mins |
| 18:28.12 | Jenson | It doesnt bring down the whole system anymore |
| 18:28.19 | resuDaed | feels wierd when I go back to IE and start menus and the like |
| 18:28.49 | resuDaed | \ instead of /, dir instead of ls |
| 18:29.04 | Jenson | Yeah well I only learnt ls yesterday |
| 18:29.13 | Jenson | You can use dir in Linux too |
| 18:29.35 | SpudULike | Err, what's the opposite of /away? |
| 18:29.50 | skugg | SpudULike, often /back |
| 18:30.13 | Jenson | I thought /away was the oposite of /away |
| 18:30.14 | SpudULike | Phew, I thought I was in exile! |
| 18:30.18 | Jenson | wb SpudULike |
| 18:30.23 | skugg | SpudULike, but /back is just an alias for /away without arguments |
| 18:30.47 | SpudULike | Is it? |
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| 18:30.52 | zimm | resuDaed: |
| 18:30.55 | zimm | ok |
| 18:30.57 | zimm | sorted |
| 18:31.11 | zimm | you still have 2.4.18-bf2.4 |
| 18:31.12 | resuDaed | zimm ... you rule |
| 18:31.18 | zimm | but you have Nvidia loaded :-) |
| 18:31.30 | skugg | SpudULike, it is here anyway :) |
| 18:31.34 | zimm | just edir XF86config |
| 18:31.41 | zimm | hang on , i'll do it |
| 18:31.43 | resuDaed | I just got the message up as I was attempting a samba mount ... you could have waited till I finished typing the command |
| 18:31.44 | zimm | brb |
| 18:32.56 | zimm | resuDaed: ok .. all done ,, rstart X and you should get a funky(?) spalsh screen |
| 18:33.36 | resuDaed | funky |
| 18:33.44 | zimm | sorry it took so long , my damn connection kept dying :-) |
| 18:34.00 | resuDaed | I think I may have kicked you off at one point as wel |
| 18:34.04 | zimm | heh |
| 18:34.06 | resuDaed | necessary reboot |
| 18:34.26 | resuDaed | the proxy wasn't working, and people were complaining |
| 18:34.40 | zimm | yeh , i couldnt get it to build a kernel at all .. |
| 18:34.48 | zimm | kept crapping out |
| 18:34.54 | zimm | wouldnt even do the modules |
| 18:35.39 | zimm | by the way , if you ever actually use kde , i wouldnt upgrade just yet |
| 18:35.49 | zimm | libqt3c102-mt broke it |
| 18:36.00 | zimm | it'll try to removfe it all |
| 18:37.52 | resuDaed | I rarley use kde, and I have no reason to updgrade as yet (unless your talking about apt-get upgrade) ... I only have it for the odd occaion when a windows user uses this box |
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| 18:38.02 | resuDaed | too much of a system hog |
| 18:38.07 | resuDaed | wb Jenson |
| 18:38.07 | zimm | hehe yeh ,, |
| 18:38.21 | resuDaed | black/fluxbox |
| 18:38.22 | Jenson | Sorry, dad needed phone |
| 18:38.25 | Jenson | wb zimm hon |
| 18:38.31 | Jenson | ty resuDaed |
| 18:38.33 | zimm | hey Jenson |
| 18:38.52 | resuDaed | Jenson ... zimm fixed my gfx ... a process that has been going for over a month |
| 18:39.09 | resuDaed | just got to download urban terror now |
| 18:39.09 | Jenson | zimm: Well done mate :) |
| 18:39.15 | Jenson | zimm is clevr |
| 18:39.18 | Jenson | clever |
| 18:39.19 | Jenson | even |
| 18:39.48 | Jenson | As am I resuDaed, not sure what ways though |
| 18:39.55 | Jenson | lol zimm |
| 18:39.58 | resuDaed | zimm ... I need to know :-) |
| 18:40.08 | resuDaed | you hack the makefile? |
| 18:40.19 | zimm | http://www.bouncybouncy.net/nvidia_debs/old_unstable/ |
| 18:40.21 | zimm | hehe |
| 18:40.24 | resuDaed | lol |
| 18:40.31 | resuDaed | even better |
| 18:40.39 | eye69 | I've never used the debs. Always use the source. |
| 18:40.55 | zimm | it was the only way it would work considering your box borked when building anything .. |
| 18:41.23 | eye69 | Jenson: Oh joy. |
| 18:41.31 | resuDaed | lol ... life the M$ way |
| 18:41.34 | Jenson | eye69: Yeah lol |
| 18:41.46 | resuDaed | eye69, the source wouldn't compile |
| 18:41.52 | zimm | it was either that , or build a new kernel on this box , transfer it all over , reboot , and tehn do the nvidia shit ,, which would probably have died again anyway |
| 18:41.55 | eye69 | resuDaed: What does it say? |
| 18:41.56 | Jenson | resuDaed: Ah true, but neither my soundcard or my printer or my modem work with Linux |
| 18:42.07 | eye69 | resuDaed: Was it you who couldn't compile anything? |
| 18:42.10 | resuDaed | what? soundcard |
| 18:42.15 | resuDaed | what soundcard? |
| 18:42.22 | Jenson | Soundblaster 16 |
| 18:42.25 | resuDaed | eye69, can compile some things |
| 18:42.26 | Jenson | It should work |
| 18:42.31 | zimm | eye69: his box wouldnt compile anything .. just crapped out every time i tried anything |
| 18:42.32 | resuDaed | it definatly should |
| 18:42.41 | Jenson | and doesnt seem to have a error msg anymore, but i havent done anything to it |
| 18:42.41 | zimm | Jenson: modprobe sb ? |
| 18:42.55 | resuDaed | my ram (or bus) is fscked |
| 18:42.58 | Jenson | zimm: I did that, I think the driver is missing or corrupted or something |
| 18:42.59 | resuDaed | I suspect the us |
| 18:43.38 | resuDaed | s/us/bus |
| 18:43.53 | resuDaed | the americans have very little to do with the lack of functionality I get from my box |
| 18:44.10 | resuDaed | my ram gives me a semi stable environment ... can live with it for now |
| 18:44.17 | zimm | aww now comeon .. you can ALWAYS blame americans :-P |
| 18:44.26 | Jenson | True zimm |
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| 18:45.08 | zachary | good evening |
| 18:45.17 | Jenson | hey zachary |
| 18:45.31 | Jenson | How are you, how is Jess, and how is your daughter whose name I dont know |
| 18:46.07 | resuDaed | could not open /dev/nvidiactl because permissions are too restictive |
| 18:46.17 | resuDaed | crw-rw---- |
| 18:46.28 | resuDaed | what do ppl recommend? |
| 18:46.30 | zachary | We're doing fine. My daughter's name is Astanzi. |
| 18:46.52 | Jenson | zachary: I think I can pronounce it....it's a nice spelling at least :D |
| 18:47.08 | eye69 | Hello zachary |
| 18:47.34 | zachary | came from Motzart's wife, Constanzia(sp) |
| 18:47.47 | Jenson | I see zachary |
| 18:47.49 | zachary | hi eye69, how was your weekend. |
| 18:47.53 | zachary | ? |
| 18:48.01 | eye69 | zachary: Non-active. |
| 18:48.11 | zachary | ibot seen highbury |
| 18:48.11 | | highbury <~steve@sc-gw4.homechoice.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 21h 32m 26s ago, saying: 'hi'. |
| 18:48.13 | eye69 | Played Unreal II and GTA3. |
| 18:48.39 | zachary | steve mess up his firewall? |
| 18:48.49 | Jenson | i dunno zachary |
| 18:49.00 | Jenson | He was talking about firewalls last time I saw him I think |
| 18:49.08 | zachary | eye69: not much of a gamer, but sounds cool. |
| 18:49.28 | eye69 | zachary: Unreal II is nice. I'm stuck on a level though. Keep dying. |
| 18:49.43 | zachary | brb, need to cook dinner(wife buggin me). :) |
| 18:49.51 | Jenson | Ok zachary |
| 18:49.53 | zimm | unreal II is nice if you can get more than 10fps :-( |
| 18:49.55 | eye69 | Had pasta for dinner. |
| 18:50.00 | Jenson | ahhh, my dad was just poking me with the hoover lol |
| 18:50.10 | eye69 | zimm: Gf4 :) |
| 18:50.35 | zimm | eye69: gf2-gts + agp1x :-( |
| 18:50.44 | resuDaed | tuxracer works!!!!! |
| 18:50.48 | Jenson | When this d/l is done...I'm formatting, if my mother will lemme have her laptop I'll be onlone....otherwise I could be missing for days if I make a mess of it lol |
| 18:50.48 | eye69 | Need to get new machine though. Seriously contemplating getting a Tyan Tiger MPX dual mb, Athlon MP2200+ and 512MB DDR ECC. |
| 18:50.49 | resuDaed | I'm in heaven |
| 18:51.25 | resuDaed | Jenson : get a copy of knoppix first :-) |
| 18:51.26 | zimm | resuDaed: you have the old 3xxx version of hte driver , the newer 4xxx introduced nowt but instability |
| 18:51.33 | Jenson | resuDaed: Your g/f might not like it that computers take you to heaven :P |
| 18:51.47 | eye69 | I haven't had any problems with 4191. |
| 18:52.01 | Jenson | resuDaed: Nah, I can always reinstall Win 95 on my other machine (over Slack) if I have to. |
| 18:52.02 | resuDaed | when your girlfriends not around, you can always rely on moz's multi-tabbing features ;) |
| 18:52.36 | resuDaed | zimm, as long as it works |
| 18:52.54 | resuDaed | now got to fund out about installing urban terror (Q3 mod) |
| 18:54.59 | zimm | resuDaed: also ,, as i (obviously) havent rebooted your box , i cant guarantee that it will automatically load NVdriver on boot .., but i checked /etc/modules.conf , and it seems to be set ok . |
| 18:55.18 | resuDaed | brb ... time to reboot :-D |
| 18:55.39 | resuDaed | luckily I have a console login at boot anyway, so I will still have irc |
| 18:55.41 | Jenson | zimm: Do you know resuDaed IRL? |
| 18:55.51 | resuDaed | IRL? |
| 18:55.59 | resuDaed | ah, in real life |
| 18:56.02 | Jenson | yeah |
| 18:56.11 | zimm | err .. we met at the last meeting in december |
| 18:56.14 | resuDaed | we've met at a gllug |
| 18:56.16 | resuDaed | :) |
| 18:56.23 | resuDaed | I know clyphox in real life |
| 18:56.32 | resuDaed | (gfs brother) |
| 18:56.33 | Jenson | Oh you can tell me what each other is like...coz I havent met either of you |
| 18:56.44 | Jenson | I know Dan IRL |
| 18:56.47 | zimm | lol |
| 18:57.06 | Jenson | and I've met zachary and SpudULike and murble and eye69 and formi and Tarragon |
| 18:57.20 | Jenson | Why'd I put all those ands? |
| 18:57.51 | zimm | dont ask me .. |
| 18:57.56 | Jenson | zimm: I know Dan better than all of you (at least I hope I do) if you know what I mean..... |
| 18:58.13 | resuDaed | I know resuBitch pretty well topo |
| 18:58.18 | resuDaed | s/topo/too |
| 18:58.25 | Jenson | resuDaed: I know :) you've said |
| 18:58.44 | resuDaed | ibot: I just love that nick, the best bit is she choose it :) |
| 18:58.45 | | resuDaed: I think you lost me on that one |
| 18:58.54 | resuDaed | ibot? |
| 18:58.56 | resuDaed | OT: |
| 18:59.12 | Jenson | lol zimm, maughty! |
| 18:59.15 | Jenson | naughty! |
| 19:00.02 | resuDaed | brb ... reboot |
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| 19:00.34 | resuDaed | I take it back, 30 mins left of apt-get upgrade |
| 19:00.47 | zimm | hehe |
| 19:02.00 | zimm | resuDaed: yeh man , like , fsck knows what was up with your kernel source |
| 19:02.02 | SpudULike | Some faces are harder to forget! |
| 19:02.13 | zimm | i editted the makefile so , it said it was foo-bf2.4 |
| 19:02.27 | zimm | and it still insisted it was the wrong version |
| 19:03.14 | SpudULike | J:I think that the Slackware install with bee tooooooooooo easy if you do it without making a separate partition for /home, so I think you should do exactly that. |
| 19:05.47 | resuDaed | I agree ... installations are the easy bit |
| 19:06.07 | resuDaed | learning to do everything you want in one liners is the hard bit |
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| 19:07.23 | davilion | resuDaed: cool. |
| 19:09.24 | SpudULike | I gotta box set of Quake III (for Linux)! |
| 19:10.41 | davilion | i keep meaning to download it |
| 19:12.39 | resuDaed | anyone got any good links for the q3 engine? |
| 19:12.43 | SpudULike | I bought it over a year ago, it took me over 9 months to 'get around' to getting the 3d graphics set up! |
| 19:12.52 | resuDaed | beyond generally idsoftware.com |
| 19:14.26 | davilion | right im off for dinner |
| 19:14.27 | davilion | later |
| 19:14.29 | SpudULike | linquake.com ? |
| 19:15.03 | SpudULike | Sorry - www.linuxquake.com |
| 19:16.56 | Jenson | yay download is finished |
| 19:17.12 | resuDaed | I think their server is down (pings not even getting through) |
| 19:18.00 | Jenson | it looks that way to me resuDaed |
| 19:18.08 | SpudULike | ping fraggin' - a well known sport. |
| 19:18.28 | resuDaed | I'll pick up a copy on cd from clyphox later |
| 19:18.48 | resuDaed | can get the ut mod, patches/skins etc all at the same time that way |
| 19:19.24 | resuDaed | it's in the same place as general network (LAN/WAN) connections |
| 19:19.42 | resuDaed | add a new connection as if connecting to a new network, then configure as a dial up |
| 19:19.50 | resuDaed | (from memeory) |
| 19:20.01 | Jenson | I've done it before |
| 19:20.02 | resuDaed | start>run>control>network ? |
| 19:20.11 | Jenson | I hate XP |
| 19:20.21 | resuDaed | I think everyone in this room hates XP |
| 19:20.22 | Jenson | but if I'm gonna format then I have no choice but to use XP |
| 19:20.29 | Jenson | until my mother nicks her laptop back that is |
| 19:22.03 | resuDaed | apt-cache search only returns quake 2 |
| 19:22.29 | resuDaed | night all |
| 19:23.20 | zimm | laters resuDaed |
| 19:23.21 | SpudULike | Night. |
| 19:23.31 | Jenson | cye resuDaed |
| 19:23.36 | Jenson | cya |
| 19:33.32 | resuDaed | in theory I should be able to watch divxs properly now |
| 19:33.40 | resuDaed | (instead of sleeping) |
| 19:33.47 | resuDaed | just needed a study break :) |
| 19:52.44 | Clyphox | resuDaed , ? |
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| 20:02.55 | resuDaed | how do I set fortune to come on whenever a certain user logs on? |
| 20:03.08 | resuDaed | or a bash script to run etc? |
| 20:04.14 | formi | hau |
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| 20:05.52 | zachary | i'm back, hi formi. |
| 20:06.06 | zimm | resuDaed: no idea mate :-( |
| 20:08.04 | formi | hi zach |
| 20:08.46 | resuDaed | ok, how can I see the times users have looged on |
| 20:08.47 | resuDaed | ? |
| 20:08.49 | formi | can somebody remind me of that X program that outputs info about a x program? |
| 20:09.02 | zimm | resuDaed: ## last user |
| 20:10.27 | formi | man w, might be a start resuDaed |
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| 20:13.31 | *** join/#gllug resuBitch (beth@pc-80-193-187-194-en.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 20:13.53 | resuBitch | ~ |
| 20:15.28 | resuBitch | Hello anyone. |
| 20:15.32 | resuDaed | hi |
| 20:16.23 | resuBitch | Guess u'll do |
| 20:18.34 | formi | to answer my previous question: xwininfo |
| 20:18.56 | formi | hi resu??female??? |
| 20:19.06 | resuBitch | Yes? |
| 20:20.01 | SpudULike | Is that Samantha, resu's girl. He speaks about you often! |
| 20:20.07 | formi | nothing, just looking like an odd end-of-bitchy-nickname |
| 20:20.16 | resuBitch | I'm Elizabeth. :) |
| 20:20.34 | formi | I remenber you |
| 20:20.36 | SpudULike | Bugger, same mistake, with the same girl! |
| 20:21.01 | resuBitch | I remember. :) |
| 20:21.13 | formi | SpudULike: I'm afraid you won't be getting the free month, at least in the near future |
| 20:21.15 | resuBitch | Don't think Tom's that lucky! |
| 20:22.15 | SpudULike | I think Tom's lucky. |
| 20:22.29 | SpudULike | To have such a friendly chat room to come to. |
| 20:22.34 | SpudULike | Err, I mean.... |
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| 20:23.19 | formi | this chatroom is going downhill |
| 20:23.26 | resuDaed | :) |
| 20:23.39 | formi | to many niceties between couples |
| 20:23.40 | SpudULike | resuBitch: You gonna become a regular here? |
| 20:24.00 | formi | I vote we ban the guys and keep the girls |
| 20:24.20 | SpudULike | You going then formi? |
| 20:24.20 | resuBitch | Hope so, if you don't mind. |
| 20:24.40 | formi | why? |
| 20:24.41 | resuBitch | My vote's with Formi |
| 20:24.50 | SpudULike | resuBitch: Fine by me, I'll just rename the room 'LoveNest' or something. |
| 20:25.16 | resuBitch | Promise no love talk. |
| 20:25.38 | SpudULike | Yeah, I remember J and Dan saying something similar! |
| 20:26.02 | formi | I like to take the micky out of people and when boyfriend are in the middle is not fun |
| 20:27.26 | zimm | lol |
| 20:27.50 | SpudULike | Memory Buffer Overflow indicated by dribbling out of ears. |
| 20:27.51 | resuDaed | how many couples now? |
| 20:29.28 | SpudULike | resuDaed: Dan and J and now you and Samantha |
| 20:29.45 | SpudULike | Err, Elizabeth |
| 20:29.45 | resuDaed | and zach & jess? |
| 20:30.02 | resuDaed | does me and samantha count as another couple? |
| 20:30.14 | SpudULike | Ah, but zach and Jess are in the same room together. |
| 20:30.39 | zachary | she only comes in the room to taske me. :) |
| 20:30.43 | formi | and spud & tarragon, the 2 "odd" one-s |
| 20:30.52 | SpudULike | couple? Manage a trio (tho spelt proper!) |
| 20:30.55 | resuDaed | lol formi |
| 20:30.57 | zachary | s / task /taske |
| 20:31.18 | SpudULike | formi: Oi, you said you wouldn't tell about me and Tarragon! |
| 20:32.30 | formi | SpudULike: it was becoming to obvious, you should come out, ok, this is the uk, DON'T |
| 20:32.31 | SpudULike | It's alright for the young, I couldn't 'manage a trio'. |
| 20:32.41 | formi | s/to/too |
| 20:34.17 | SpudULike | Come out? Me and John? |
| 20:34.27 | zimm | sounds messy |
| 20:34.33 | SpudULike | OK then, if you're sure. |
| 20:35.04 | SpudULike | We've both used Windows, John's even used NT, though he ain't proud of it. |
| 20:35.35 | formi | and I bet he uses macs on a regular basis |
| 20:37.03 | SpudULike | He does that to, but doesn't feel so bad about that side of his technoality. |
| 20:38.26 | Tarragon | Our secret is out! |
| 20:39.36 | zachary | Tarragon and SpudULike use ms. Hang them high! |
| 20:40.03 | SpudULike | Used! |
| 20:40.53 | zachary | sorry misread. I'll put away the butcher knife. Kindest appologies. :) |
| 20:41.00 | Tarragon | No MS here now. Loaded XP to see how it handled Samba. Lasted about 15 mins. Reformated and it is back to SuSE on that machine. |
| 20:41.20 | Tarragon | Do use MacOS though |
| 20:43.20 | Tarragon | I do also have a copy of DOS that I can use to get rid of the mbr - Hmmm why has no one written the same usage in GNU? |
| 20:44.05 | SpudULike | FreeDOS |
| 20:44.38 | Tarragon | Still a form of DOS. All I want is a GNU tool to format /mbr |
| 20:44.55 | cupis | Tarragon: you can get rid of the mbr without MSDOS, but you have to replace it with something, whether it be lilo, grub, the DOS mbr etc. |
| 20:45.49 | cupis | or use dd if=/dev/null of=(whatever the appropriate value is) |
| 20:47.42 | cupis | # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 |
| 20:47.49 | cupis | will remove the mbr |
| 20:48.25 | Tarragon | TY |
| 20:48.35 | SpudULike | Hmm, dinner has just turned up. |
| 20:49.02 | cupis | of course, by definition this will make the machine/hard disk unbootable unless you add a new mbr... |
| 20:49.11 | formi | SpudULike: mind the kids |
| 20:58.24 | resuDaed | brb ... reboot |
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| 21:10.19 | resuDaed | uptime : 6 min |
| 21:11.56 | resuDaed | simple admin, how do you specify what groups an already created user are in? |
| 21:12.16 | resuDaed | also list the groups |
| 21:12.26 | resuDaed | man ? |
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| 21:13.56 | SpudULike | Err, man groups |
| 21:14.19 | jenson | If I write weird thinks its coz ive got my keyboard in US mode lol |
| 21:15.05 | SpudULike | Bah, you think we're gonna fall for that as an excuse! |
| 21:15.14 | jenson | lol |
| 21:15.19 | jenson | I'm very stressed |
| 21:16.32 | SpudULike | If you do 'man -k' and some word you think might be mentioned in the man, you'll get a list of stuff. Have a look at 'man -k group' |
| 21:16.35 | Tarragon | Officially maybe, but what about in your heart? |
| 21:16.39 | jenson | resuDaed: yeah |
| 21:16.59 | jenson | I had the same fucking problem with my rootdisks, that I had with the other one, but I thought was a dodgy drive |
| 21:17.13 | jenson | And it took me 2 hours to get my rootdisks loaded on my last install so fuck that |
| 21:17.20 | jenson | Then I instakked Win |
| 21:17.25 | jenson | and my modem fucked with me |
| 21:17.30 | jenson | and XChgat keeps crashing |
| 21:18.00 | resuDaed | jenson : should have got dan to do it |
| 21:18.02 | resuDaed | :) |
| 21:18.05 | jenson | Tarragon: In my heat I hate computers in general |
| 21:18.23 | jenson | resuDaed: I'm quite capable, I just dont understand the problem I have with my rootdisks |
| 21:18.45 | zimm | jenson: seriously , try debian .. |
| 21:18.48 | jenson | I decided not to mention that resuDaed |
| 21:19.14 | jenson | zimm: From now on, I'm sticking with Win |
| 21:19.21 | jenson | unless I sort my disks |
| 21:19.26 | zimm | jenson: i'll even post you a friggin disc ! |
| 21:19.29 | resuDaed | debains installation can be trickier than others, but beyond that ... piece of cake |
| 21:19.36 | zimm | resuDaed: aye .. |
| 21:19.56 | zimm | resuDaed: new one is even esier .. you dont have to tell it anything , apart from network |
| 21:20.06 | resuDaed | ah, a vast improvement then |
| 21:20.08 | SpudULike | J: Take a deep breath and tell us where it all went wrong. |
| 21:20.46 | jenson | SpudULike: I had the same problem before but its not the disks coz I've used different disks and it still happened and it happens with different disks outta the set |
| 21:20.46 | resuDaed | sorry, me and zimm going slightly OT ... back to continuing jensons conversion from the dark side |
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| 21:20.58 | jenson | It just diesnt read a disk |
| 21:21.04 | resuDaed | jenson : did they dd ok? |
| 21:21.09 | jenson | and then it will read it, and wont read a different one |
| 21:21.16 | SpudULike | What? Your floppy disk won't read, CD? |
| 21:21.36 | jenson | SpudULike: You know the 5 slack rootdisks? |
| 21:21.43 | resuDaed | SpudULike : floppy drives were never meant to fread cds, therein could lye the problem |
| 21:22.03 | resuDaed | my speeling is appalling :) |
| 21:22.12 | resuDaed | my point exactly |
| 21:22.19 | jenson | lol i cant type |
| 21:22.30 | jenson | lol zimm well done |
| 21:22.33 | resuDaed | although you can get the smaller cds that may fit ... never tried it |
| 21:22.55 | jenson | resuDaed: I have a CD that would fit, or rahther my granny does, fgot it free from cadburys |
| 21:24.21 | SpudULike | Guys, note the comma! |
| 21:24.42 | SpudULike | So You have a floppy disk set, which you can read? |
| 21:24.48 | jenson | but CBA to install the monitor/graphics drivers |
| 21:25.09 | jenson | No SpudULike I have the same problem with different sets, i thought it was the drive on the other machijne |
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| 21:25.39 | zimm | cant you get a bootable CD for slack ? |
| 21:26.02 | jenson | zimm: I don't need one I'm quite capable. |
| 21:26.03 | SpudULike | J: Your machine doesn't have a bootable CD drive? |
| 21:26.16 | SpudULike | Jinks |
| 21:26.17 | jenson | SpudULike: My Slack CD isnt bootable |
| 21:26.22 | SpudULike | Double jinks. |
| 21:26.40 | zimm | jenson: i know you are ,, but it would bypass the floppy disc problem .. |
| 21:27.00 | jenson | zimm: I know, but I'm not gonna be beaten by a compouter |
| 21:27.21 | resuDaed | thats a much better attitude |
| 21:27.22 | jenson | Even if I now have to d/l all the rootdisk files again and RAWRITE coz I wiped it during format |
| 21:27.49 | SpudULike | The boot disk image in bound to be on the SLack CD. |
| 21:27.51 | resuDaed | ibot: took me ages to work out the relevance of if & of |
| 21:27.51 | | i don't know, resuDaed |
| 21:27.58 | resuDaed | grrr |
| 21:28.05 | resuDaed | ibot: means OT: |
| 21:28.05 | | resuDaed: are you using Windows? |
| 21:28.14 | resuDaed | ibot fsck off |
| 21:28.15 | | resuDaed: wish i knew |
| 21:28.18 | zimm | ahahah |
| 21:28.26 | zimm | ibot: lart resuDaed |
| 21:28.33 | resuDaed | ibot lart zimm |
| 21:28.35 | jenson | SpudULike: I have my bootdisk image, but the rootdisk images aren't on the CD |
| 21:28.42 | resuDaed | ibot lart ibot |
| 21:28.43 | jenson | ibot lart zimm and resuDaed |
| 21:28.50 | resuDaed | class ... |
| 21:29.06 | resuDaed | ibot lart slackware installation disks |
| 21:29.14 | zimm | hehe |
| 21:29.17 | resuDaed | lol |
| 21:29.24 | cupis | hmm, where are people gathering/meeting on Friday morning? (specific place inside Waterloo station, I presume...) |
| 21:29.47 | resuDaed | cupis: why are people gathering on friday morning? |
| 21:29.54 | SpudULike | cupis: Beer port of some kind I would imagine. |
| 21:29.58 | cupis | resuDaed: fosdem |
| 21:30.20 | cupis | SpudULike: before 10am? I like the way you think |
| 21:31.06 | jenson | :) |
| 21:31.13 | resuDaed | jenson: can you not hook up your slack box next to a win box with irc? |
| 21:31.31 | jenson | resuDaed: My Slack box is upstairs, the piece of shit |
| 21:31.32 | resuDaed | (best way) |
| 21:32.20 | resuDaed | bend and lift box, left foor in front of right ... dump on table ... go back and get monitor/keyb/mouse/leads and plug and play |
| 21:33.10 | SpudULike | cupis: Not my thinking, their thinking! |
| 21:33.22 | jenson | I'm sitting here listening to a CD when I wanna listen to an MP3 but CBA to install my audio drivers in here |
| 21:33.31 | resuDaed | ibot lart microsoft |
| 21:33.42 | jenson | resuDaed: it's making a good CD player |
| 21:33.46 | jenson | and at least it works |
| 21:33.55 | jenson | Unlike Linux which is nothing but trouble |
| 21:33.56 | cupis | SpudULike: they? I mean at Waterloo, not Brussels. |
| 21:34.06 | resuDaed | but can you ssh in to it and play cds from the next room? |
| 21:34.19 | zimm | lol |
| 21:34.30 | jenson | resuDaed: No, I picked it up and dumped it onto the desk and trailed speaker wires about |
| 21:34.47 | SpudULike | Why wouldn't they think the jolly starts a Waterloo? |
| 21:35.19 | jenson | Ahhhhh XP is gay |
| 21:35.23 | jenson | I put a data disk in |
| 21:35.42 | jenson | and it comes up with a thing about itcontaining more than one typwe of content and asking what i want ti to do |
| 21:36.42 | resuDaed | you have a choice ... "mount /mnt/cdrom" or "cdplay" :-) |
| 21:36.52 | resuDaed | or leave it without annoying popups |
| 21:37.04 | jenson | resuDaed: My soundcard doesnt work on my linux box! |
| 21:37.25 | resuDaed | plug speakers in to cd rom drive (cheap & effective) |
| 21:37.41 | jenson | resuDaed: why didn't I think of that lol |
| 21:37.48 | jenson | Except I tend to use MP# |
| 21:37.51 | jenson | 3 |
| 21:38.05 | resuDaed | then one of us can ssh in and fix it for you (in theory) |
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| 21:38.24 | resuDaed | wb formi |
| 21:38.24 | jenson | wb formi |
| 21:38.37 | formi | ta |
| 21:39.29 | jenson | Coz the modem lead for the XP laptop is fucked and causes the whole phone netwrok in the house to disapperatr |
| 21:39.49 | zimm | not good .. |
| 21:39.59 | formi | can somebody recommend an open news server? |
| 21:40.20 | SpudULike | Doesn't the Windows boot disk have fdisk on it? |
| 21:40.36 | jenson | SpudULike: yeah |
| 21:41.26 | jenson | resuDaed: As usual I've pretended that I'm above the average user and clearly demonstrated that I'm just a luser. |
| 21:42.03 | resuDaed | jenson : you are still above average user by the fact you know M$ isn't be all and end all |
| 21:42.07 | resuDaed | ibot lart microsoft |
| 21:42.30 | resuDaed | ahh, no, rpms grrr |
| 21:42.35 | resuDaed | lol |
| 21:42.46 | jenson | Mind you |
| 21:44.38 | Tarragon | formi: The freenet news server has 23822 groups. I have just checked. |
| 21:45.23 | formi | news.freenet.net ?? |
| 21:46.28 | resuDaed | jenson : why are you setting up windows? |
| 21:46.30 | Tarragon | No the server name is newscache4.freenet.de on the usual port 119 |
| 21:46.42 | jenson | resuDaed: Coz Slack wont install |
| 21:46.44 | cupis | jenson: download the drivers? |
| 21:47.11 | jenson | cupis: fuck tha, it can stay like this til I feel like sorting it |
| 21:47.17 | resuDaed | although /me is in no fit state to go on about how easy it is to set up graphics drivers under linux |
| 21:47.40 | zimm | resuDaed: LOL |
| 21:47.43 | formi | thanks Tarragon |
| 21:48.01 | SpudULike | jenson: At least set up the partitions so that you don't have to do all this work again to the Windows install. |
| 21:48.35 | jenson | SpudULike: I'm not doing anything else. I'm ignoring the computer completely |
| 21:49.05 | jenson | The fact that I'm using this to chat and a laptop to play MP3s right now has nothing to do with the fact I am avoiding computers |
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| 21:49.13 | jenson | hey davilion |
| 21:49.51 | jenson | I still dunno why XChat won't run |
| 21:50.38 | davilion | nooo |
| 21:50.44 | davilion | not mschat isnt that the comic chat thingy |
| 21:50.45 | davilion | ? |
| 21:50.48 | davilion | that was evil |
| 21:51.19 | cupis | jenson: chatzilla |
| 21:52.37 | davilion | how are you jenson? |
| 21:53.05 | jenson | davilion: Stressed |
| 21:53.06 | jenson | you? |
| 21:54.33 | formi | jenson: go to settings, irc, ip address and add the address |
| 21:54.35 | davilion | im ok, just eaten half a cow, so im just relaxing in front of tele. |
| 21:54.48 | davilion | whats got you in a tis? |
| 21:57.04 | jenson | davilion: Linux root disks, and Windows |
| 21:57.35 | davilion | if only life was that simple :P |
| 21:58.50 | jenson | Shit, why the fuck can'r I find the one fuxking disc I want. |
| 21:59.10 | davilion | its sods law |
| 21:59.25 | davilion | what happens is you spend all day looking for the disks, then when you find them, the drive fails at 99% |
| 22:00.23 | jenson | I'm looking for a disc with MSChat on |
| 22:00.30 | jenson | So I don't have to use BitchX |
| 22:00.36 | jenson | Coz XChat won't run |
| 22:00.37 | zimm | jenson: what box are you on now ? |
| 22:00.46 | cupis | jenson: do you have mozilla installed? |
| 22:00.56 | jenson | zimm: The thing that used to be a lovely win box and is now shit |
| 22:00.59 | davilion | if your on windies whats wrong with mirc? |
| 22:01.06 | jenson | cupis: Nope |
| 22:01.10 | jenson | I hate mirc |
| 22:01.16 | zimm | jenson: so its linux ? |
| 22:01.23 | zimm | no .. |
| 22:01.23 | jenson | Nothing will run coz I havent installed my graphics drivers |
| 22:01.26 | jenson | no zimm |
| 22:01.28 | jenson | its win |
| 22:01.36 | jenson | I'm sshing onti BitchX |
| 22:01.39 | jenson | onto |
| 22:01.44 | zimm | ahhh |
| 22:02.11 | zimm | so you have a functioning linux box ? |
| 22:04.39 | formi | the problem is the disfunctioning she-admin |
| 22:05.40 | jenson | zimm: It's Dan's linux box server lol |
| 22:05.45 | zachary | bbl |
| 22:05.46 | jenson | I cant find that fucking disc |
| 22:05.58 | zimm | jenson: ahh now i understand .. |
| 22:06.05 | jenson | Maybe I should look for my graphics driver disc instead, and get XChat to work |
| 22:06.39 | zimm | what graphics card is it ? (just being nosey) |
| 22:06.42 | Tarragon | Can you not download the drivers for the graphics card? |
| 22:06.53 | jenson | aTI Rage 128 pro |
| 22:06.58 | jenson | Tarragon: yeah |
| 22:08.17 | Tarragon | OK next Q. What version of Windows? |
| 22:08.23 | jenson | That was a LAN setpu disc lol |
| 22:08.33 | jenson | Tarragon: Don't worry about it, I can do it |
| 22:08.37 | jenson | I'm just very stressed |
| 22:08.38 | jenson | coz of the |
| 22:08.43 | jenson | fucking Slackware |
| 22:08.45 | jenson | fucking rootdisks |
| 22:08.50 | jenson | wouldnt fucking run |
| 22:09.42 | Tarragon | Did Dan not leave you with an auto booting CD of Slack 8.1? |
| 22:09.57 | jenson | No Tarragon, he donated FreeBSD lol |
| 22:10.22 | davilion | alcohol is not a good idea when using the command prompt |
| 22:10.26 | davilion | its amazing how similar ls and rm are |
| 22:10.35 | Tarragon | Pain - ah the reason for Win |
| 22:10.44 | jenson | Ow.the doorframe was hard |
| 22:11.01 | jenson | Ahhhh what a crap repeat rate |
| 22:11.05 | Tarragon | Why not try the FreeBSD |
| 22:11.35 | formi | no better NetBSD is more fun |
| 22:11.43 | jenson | Tarragon: Coz this is the family PC lol, I dont think my dad knew I was gonna dualboot |
| 22:12.00 | formi | and find yourself a sun5 with no keyboard and monitor |
| 22:12.41 | davilion | heh yeah i hate those old sun keyboards |
| 22:12.47 | davilion | everything is on the wrong place |
| 22:12.56 | davilion | its taken me ages to get used to htis one |
| 22:13.03 | davilion | i still press 'help' instead of esc |
| 22:15.16 | formi | bbc2 the penguin man |
| 22:16.20 | formi | davilion: there is always the serial cable |
| 22:16.45 | davilion | yeah |
| 22:17.05 | davilion | jenson: its dead easy all you need is a battery and some cable, and you can communicate in rs232 |
| 22:17.39 | jenson | :) davilion |
| 22:20.48 | jenson | I just hung up on Dan, told him I dont wanna talk to him |
| 22:21.08 | zachary | good night all! |
| 22:21.14 | jenson | night |
| 22:21.14 | zimm | layters zachary |
| 22:21.16 | formi | night zachary |
| 22:30.46 | cupis | jenson: too late for that, methinks |
| 22:30.57 | jenson | true cupis |
| 22:33.47 | jenson | anand if I fuck it up I'll be back ASAP |
| 22:34.45 | cupis | "jenson has no reason"? |
| 22:40.49 | formi | meaning she can't reason |
| 22:45.44 | formi | Tarragon |
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| 23:03.43 | zimm | wb Jenson |
| 23:04.32 | Jenson | me thinks she isnt allowed to play with thenidiot |
| 23:05.24 | Jenson | I establised that 3 out of 5 rootdisks dont wanna run |
| 23:05.35 | Jenson | But at least I've repartitioned the drive |
| 23:05.43 | Jenson | Meaning I gotta reinstall win again |
| 23:05.51 | zimm | :-( |
| 23:06.27 | Jenson | Note to self: Do not connect modem cable to netwrok card and wonder why it doesnt work lol |
| 23:06.50 | Jenson | Second note to self: Don't admit to mother it was my failt and not the comouter at all |
| 23:07.00 | Jenson | And I can't type on a laptop lol |
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| 23:11.44 | zimm | hey dankolb |
| 23:12.01 | Jenson | hey dankolb |
| 23:12.06 | dankolb | Hey |
| 23:12.08 | dankolb | Hey Jenson |
| 23:12.10 | cupis | hey dankolb |
| 23:12.14 | Jenson | Who put the caps key so damn close to the a |
| 23:12.14 | dankolb | hey all :) |
| 23:19.47 | Clyphox | Hi dank |
| 23:19.58 | Jenson | hi Clyphox |
| 23:20.11 | Jenson | dank will BRB Clyphox |
| 23:20.11 | dankolb | Hi |
| 23:20.39 | Clyphox | Hows life? |
| 23:20.54 | Clyphox | My bloody DNS still hasn't updated. Gonna call them tomorrow.. |
| 23:22.02 | formi | Clyphox: can you recommend an open news server? |
| 23:22.08 | dankolb | Life's good ATM |
| 23:22.40 | skugg | formi, news.cin.dfn.de |
| 23:22.48 | formi | ta |
| 23:25.19 | Clyphox | not sure.. sorry |
| 23:25.24 | Clyphox | never run one.. |
| 23:25.45 | formi | skugg: is that the correct spelling? |
| 23:25.59 | skugg | formi, no. s/cin/cis/ |
| 23:26.04 | skugg | i think... |
| 23:26.12 | formi | checking.. |
| 23:26.44 | skugg | http://news.cis.dfn.de/ is correct |
| 23:27.19 | formi | downloading the ngs list |
| 23:27.26 | *** join/#gllug cupis_ (~paul@modem-2244.dasyure.dialup.pol.co.uk) |
| 23:28.45 | Clyphox | Omw.. |
| 23:29.08 | Clyphox | for the first time ever (with me) sylpheed has just fscked up. |
| 23:29.24 | Clyphox | I think its just a gtk thing though :( |
| 23:29.45 | Clyphox | I've been using it for ages.. ahh well.. gotta re-install it somehow.. |
| 23:30.36 | skugg | formi, do you follow lots of obscure lists? |
| 23:30.52 | skugg | you find no binary ones on that server ;) |
| 23:31.02 | skugg | s/lists/groups/ |
| 23:35.26 | formi | obscure = netbsd.sparc |
| 23:35.48 | formi | im on dial-up, no binaries pleaze |
| 23:36.23 | formi | i was using pipex, that it doesn't have a great collection |
| 23:37.57 | murble | obscure is netbsd.m68k |
| 23:39.22 | dankolb | murble: netbsd.vax? |
| 23:39.54 | formi | netbsd.xbox ? |
| 23:42.53 | murble | I had netbsd on a sun3/60 |
| 23:44.27 | skugg | i had netbsd on the tip of my tongue in a discussion once last week |
| 23:44.45 | skugg | never came to anything tho |
| 23:44.56 | resuDaed | Come as you are, As you were, as I want you to be |
| 23:45.23 | skugg | resuDaed, why are you quoting nirvana? |
| 23:45.34 | skugg | :) |
| 23:45.45 | resuDaed | because I think it is a class sone, and is play @ moment |
| 23:45.57 | skugg | i see |
| 23:46.09 | resuDaed | s/sone/song, s/play/playing |
| 23:46.40 | skugg | neil young cover, they say |
| 23:47.41 | dankolb | night Tom |
| 23:47.52 | cupis | night resuDaed |
| 23:47.58 | skugg | night resuDaed |
| 23:48.00 | resuDaed | Jenson: I dind't know windows came with manual, still ... don't read it - bad karma |
| 23:48.12 | Tarragon | Night |
| 23:48.31 | formi | im having and odd problem, scp speed 5Kbps, leafnode - ssh tunnel - leafnode <1Kps |
| 23:48.43 | resuDaed | Tarragon : thanks for the name of the place in w-yorks ... am ringing them tomorrow |
| 23:48.54 | Tarragon | :-) |
| 23:49.37 | skugg | that's a mouthful of a title if I ever saw one ;) |
| 23:51.43 | Jenson | listening |
| 23:51.47 | Jenson | to |
| 23:52.03 | Jenson | fucking laptop fucks up my fucking typing |
| 23:53.26 | Jenson | ty formi |
| 23:55.33 | skugg | Tarragon, heh. got that on single somewhere... probably still in norway |
| 23:57.27 | Stephen | not if you ripped them all to your hard disk or something |
| 23:59.17 | skugg | true. but quality is not so good then (the soundcard in my laptop leaves something to be desired) |
| 23:59.52 | skugg | anyway, singles are expensive. never buy them anymore. bought this one in sweden ~7 years ago... Yikes! |