00:00.06 | skugg | heh. me too. i can read / understand basic german, but not write / talk it. |
00:00.39 | skugg | it's almost 9 years since I had it though. *shudder* |
00:02.14 | zimm | apparently i was fluent in french when i was 5 .. |
00:02.25 | zimm | guess i forgot it .. |
00:03.17 | Axel | i'm off to bed folks - cu later :) |
00:03.21 | Axel | gn8 all |
00:03.25 | zimm | :) |
00:08.53 | skugg | urk! sms-language... |
00:09.10 | skugg | :D |
00:09.15 | zimm | lol |
00:10.59 | skugg | true. i do too. |
00:11.09 | zimm | horrrid fiddly 3-letter-to-a-key wank |
00:11.26 | skugg | not just that, but the key's are so bloody small! |
00:11.26 | zimm | worse still ,, |
00:11.40 | zimm | people who ask questions via sms .. |
00:11.52 | zimm | then get raty if you dont reply within 10 minutes ! |
00:23.01 | skugg | yes. |
00:23.07 | skugg | don't like that. |
00:23.08 | zimm | lol |
00:23.13 | skugg | :) |
00:23.40 | skugg | how much do you bet i waited intentionally? :D |
00:24.09 | zimm | i dont bet .. |
00:24.13 | zimm | but i know ,, |
00:24.37 | skugg | i didn't... i'm very much a batch-processing human being. I was doing something else :P |
00:25.56 | skugg | and now I'm off to bed, and that means i'll be away from here for a while. |
00:26.04 | zimm | ahh |
00:26.10 | zimm | well , have fun :) |
00:26.10 | skugg | for i cannot sleep and type at the same time ;) |
00:26.25 | skugg | two things at once you know... just cannot do it |
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07:39.18 | eye69 | Morning |
07:53.54 | resuDaed_Yawa | Morning |
07:57.08 | eye69 | *yawn* |
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08:05.53 | zachary | Good morning. |
08:14.00 | Tarragon | Ohhh pretty snow. |
08:22.48 | Axel | g'morning |
08:23.20 | eye69 | 'ello |
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08:30.01 | resuDaed_ssh | morning all |
08:50.02 | resuDaed | Axel : you there? |
09:01.28 | Axel | huhu |
09:13.17 | dank_work | Morning |
09:13.34 | Axel | hi dan |
09:14.12 | dank_work | How's it going? |
09:20.56 | Axel | bad |
09:21.23 | Axel | my comp has spent all night compiling Qt and now the last part of the 3 part saga won't compile ;( |
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09:23.21 | Axel | wb resuDaed |
09:23.31 | resuDaed | thanks ... dodgy ram |
09:23.56 | resuDaed | Axel : is it still worth me emailing you my cv? |
09:24.19 | dank_work | Ah :( |
09:24.25 | dank_work | ibot seen davilion |
09:24.25 | | davilion <davilion@ppp-0-11.glas-b-2.access.uk.tiscali.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 10h 22m 21s ago, saying: 'or irssi when he's ssh'd'. |
09:25.03 | Axel | resuDaed: dunno - depends on your CV ;) |
09:25.56 | resuDaed | its not that great :( |
09:26.21 | resuDaed | I'll send you it anyway ... I'm off to bed, my gf wasn't too well last night so I didn't get much sleep :( |
09:26.43 | Axel | :( |
09:26.47 | dank_work | :-( |
09:26.48 | Axel | ok - sleep well |
09:26.53 | dank_work | What's up with her? |
09:27.43 | resuDaed | <PROTECTED> |
09:28.14 | resuDaed | just late at night was all |
09:34.28 | dank_work | Ah right |
09:37.01 | resuDaed | what country code is KR ? |
09:37.05 | dank_work | Korea? |
09:37.33 | Axel | resuDaed: ok, got your CV :) |
09:37.36 | resuDaed | possibly, is the orrigin of my only spam sender, and I am trying to find out the ISP |
09:38.36 | resuDaed | night all |
09:38.59 | Axel | gn8 |
09:39.29 | zachary | brb |
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10:54.49 | dank_work | wb zachary |
10:55.01 | zachary | ty |
10:55.06 | dank_work | :) |
10:55.21 | Axel | complile it in you bastard!... |
10:55.38 | Axel | *crying* |
10:55.50 | zachary | Axel: I've been fighting mine for over a month. It is getting better. |
10:55.52 | Axel | it only took a night and it doesn't work... |
10:56.00 | Axel | thx dan |
10:56.10 | Tarragon | ibot lart dank_work |
10:56.15 | dank_work | :-) |
10:56.19 | dank_work | ibot insult Tarragon |
10:56.23 | Axel | lol |
10:56.33 | Tarragon | :-) |
10:57.32 | zachary | ibot needs it's scripts scrubbed out with soap. |
10:57.33 | | bugger all, i dunno, zachary |
10:57.51 | SpudUAway | Lads! I'd hate to take ops and start kicking people off, so be nice to eachother! |
10:58.04 | SpudUAway | Actually, I'd love it!!!!!! |
10:58.10 | SpudUAway | ;-) |
10:58.55 | SpudUAway | I am easily effected by power, which is why I'm not allowed to sit near trailing power cords. |
10:58.58 | zachary | Well SpudUAway, what do you want us to talk about, technical stuff that might have something to do with this channel? |
11:00.16 | SpudUAway | Like it, yes. Is there a chance of it happening....... |
11:00.20 | *** mode/#gllug [+o Tarragon] by ChanServ |
11:00.26 | Tarragon | OH Yeah? |
11:00.34 | *** mode/#gllug [-o Tarragon] by Tarragon |
11:00.34 | SpudUAway | Oh God. |
11:00.47 | SpudUAway | Actually, can you kick me? |
11:00.55 | Tarragon | Yes! |
11:01.18 | *** mode/#gllug [+o SpudUAway] by ChanServ |
11:01.21 | zachary | Kick me, beat me, whip me please! |
11:01.29 | SpudUAway | Go on then! |
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11:01.47 | Tarragon | Swine! |
11:01.51 | SpudUAway | Wasn't me, didn't touch him occifer! |
11:02.03 | zachary | lol |
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11:02.40 | Tarragon | Yep! No problem |
11:02.55 | Stephen | oh dear... |
11:03.21 | SpudUAway | Cool, so long as I know. |
11:03.25 | Tarragon | dank_work: Why? |
11:03.50 | dank_work | Jenson again. |
11:04.04 | Tarragon | SpudUAway: The difference is you can always gain total control and ban me. |
11:05.38 | Tarragon | dank_work: What to explain or should we just leave it with you. |
11:06.03 | dank_work | I guess I can explain in a few mins |
11:07.44 | zachary | SpudUAway: What did you think of the new covers? |
11:09.27 | SpudUAway | I did think that, from the originals you sent, they should have a small Knoppix logo. I now think that the Debian logo is better suited. In short, I think they are cool. |
11:10.27 | zachary | How small? |
11:12.42 | SpudUAway | About the size you have the Debian logo. You don't need it now though. |
11:20.09 | highbury | Hi guys |
11:20.47 | zachary | morning highbury |
11:20.50 | dank_work | hi |
11:20.55 | Axel | hi highbury |
11:22.05 | dank_work | I feel like davilion is trying to take Jenson away |
11:46.13 | Axel | silly question: how do install an .rpm? |
11:46.27 | dank_work | rpm -Uvh (or -ivh) |
11:46.45 | Axel | rpm -Uvh [package] |
11:46.46 | Axel | ok |
11:46.51 | Axel | what does ivh do? |
11:47.47 | dank_work | -i = install ; -U = upgrade (or install) ; -v = verbose ; -h print hashes as progress indicators |
11:48.07 | Axel | thx |
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12:06.07 | dank_work | wb Spud |
12:13.27 | dank_work | Thanks guys, for being here to talk to |
12:13.40 | SpudUAway | Bah, BY screwed again - colin@linux:~/Mags/LMI/29> ping 213.106.84.104 |
12:13.40 | SpudUAway | PING 213.106.84.104 (213.106.84.104) from 80.193.177.195 : 56(84) bytes of data. |
12:13.40 | SpudUAway | 64 bytes from 213.106.84.104: icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=25.2 ms |
12:13.40 | SpudUAway | 64 bytes from 213.106.84.104: icmp_seq=22 ttl=52 time=36.2 ms |
12:13.40 | SpudUAway | 64 bytes from 213.106.84.104: icmp_seq=23 ttl=52 time=27.2 ms |
12:13.41 | SpudUAway | 64 bytes from 213.106.84.104: icmp_seq=24 ttl=52 time=27.2 ms |
12:13.44 | SpudUAway | --- 213.106.84.104 ping statistics --- |
12:14.07 | SpudUAway | 27 packets transmitted, 4 received, 85% loss, time 26057ms |
12:14.07 | SpudUAway | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 25.232/28.982/36.207/4.251 ms |
12:14.21 | SpudUAway | Whoops, only meant for the last line to go. |
12:14.48 | dank_work | Oops |
12:25.53 | SpudUAway | ping 80.193.177.195 |
12:26.11 | SpudUAway | hahahahaha, too many screens. |
12:26.19 | dank_work | :) |
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12:30.10 | highbury | its snowing in North London |
12:31.26 | lAmEdUcK | thats good |
12:31.32 | lAmEdUcK | it snows here all the time :)\ |
12:33.28 | highbury | and with that, he disappears, for us all to wonder ..... |
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12:43.13 | dank_work | Hi jenson |
12:43.22 | jenson | hey dank_work |
12:43.23 | dank_work | Not going to Tescos, then? |
12:43.36 | jenson | dank_work: Guess what, ther eis well loads of dust in thisd FDD lol |
12:43.49 | jenson | We might be, when she stops talking |
12:43.52 | dank_work | :-) |
12:43.57 | dank_work | Dave still hasn't been online |
12:44.33 | jenson | dank_work I texted him to tell him you wanted to talk to him, but he may well be busy |
12:44.41 | jenson | or avoiding you lol |
12:45.42 | dank_work | :) |
12:45.48 | dank_work | What did you do to your wrist, babe? |
12:46.05 | jenson | dank_work: Nothing AFAIK lol, I think it was gluing lol |
12:46.35 | dank_work | Tescos? |
12:46.42 | dank_work | Not even a goodbye? :( |
12:51.39 | dank_work | Bad highbury :) |
12:53.41 | highbury | Donna gave up a couple of weeks ago, me since yesterday afternoon |
12:53.52 | dank_work | Good luck :) |
12:57.54 | murb | highbury: and you're going to use your savings on abaco to buy a cdwriter? |
13:02.35 | highbury | ROTFL |
13:02.52 | SpudUAway | Err, how would I print the time on the command line? |
13:02.56 | highbury | cd-rw has to wait, more imprtant things |
13:02.59 | SpudUAway | No, better question! |
13:03.03 | SpudUAway | 'man -k time' gives me lots of options, how do I reduce these to just the commandline stuff? |
13:03.03 | highbury | date |
13:03.09 | SpudUAway | I had to buy a CDWriter last week, £33 quid for an IDE writer, which seems to write at 24 speed. |
13:04.11 | highbury | "date" is the command you want SpudUAway |
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13:07.45 | jenson | Back |
13:07.48 | dank_work | wb |
13:08.50 | skugg | jenson, you got internetconnection with your linux-box now? |
13:09.05 | dank_work | no - she's using my server |
13:09.11 | skugg | ah. |
13:09.31 | jenson | skugg: lol my linux box is currenltly more usefgul thatn muy win box for once lol |
13:09.45 | skugg | jenson, :) |
13:10.43 | jenson | AHHH, WTF is wrong with my wrist? |
13:11.38 | jenson | skugg: Have you finished your exams now? |
13:11.55 | skugg | jenson, yes, my exams are finished. thank $DEITY! |
13:12.25 | jenson | awww good skugg |
13:14.55 | jenson | I'm gonna go have divver |
13:15.02 | jenson | I should be back about 16:15 |
13:15.05 | jenson | diner |
13:15.08 | jenson | dinner |
13:15.15 | dank_work | Surely lunch? |
13:15.23 | jenson | Yeah lunch |
13:15.25 | jenson | dinner whatever |
13:15.31 | jenson | Byeeeeeeeeeee |
13:15.35 | jenson | BBL |
13:15.39 | SpudUAway | nn |
13:15.48 | SpudUAway | Oh, no, that's later. |
13:15.53 | SpudUAway | ;-) |
13:16.01 | jenson | lol nn SpudUAway |
13:16.13 | jenson | cya |
13:58.14 | zachary | brb |
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14:05.33 | SpudUAway | Whatya want! |
14:06.18 | SpudUAway | Ah, an everyday tale of country folk. |
14:08.16 | dank_work | What's the URL for the youth hostel you booked? |
14:11.29 | SpudUAway | http://www.laj.be/en/hostels/brussels_brel.htm |
14:12.13 | SpudUAway | Though www.fosdem.org has a list of other hotels, if you are in your right mind and want to take the hotel route! |
14:12.53 | dank_work | I can't be bothered any more. Youth Hostel will probably be good enough |
14:14.40 | SpudUAway | It'll be good enough, but it won't be a hotel! Think en suite, think tv, think BAR! |
14:15.22 | dank_work | Think money. |
14:15.38 | SpudUAway | Ah, same boat then. |
14:16.22 | dank_work | How did you book? |
14:16.26 | dank_work | Is there a 'book online' thing? |
14:16.45 | Tarragon | Bar - we will all be together somewhere, TV - No time to watch TV, either in bar, watching lecture or asleep, En Suite - good point |
14:16.50 | SpudUAway | It's the bar bit that only worries me. What time will I have to be in by, stuff like that. With the drinking going on until 3am+ I'll miss some of it. |
14:18.15 | SpudUAway | 'En Suite - good point' or bad point, don't matter, chambermaid will mop..., oh, I see what you mean. |
14:18.56 | SpudUAway | http://www.hostelbooking.com/ibnpub/french/index.asp |
14:19.33 | SpudUAway | Err, you can choose English as well, if it helps. |
14:20.48 | dank_work | Yeah. I saw :) |
14:20.53 | dank_work | (well, assumed) |
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14:22.33 | Clyphox | Hi all |
14:22.41 | Clyphox | netbsd definatly owns |
14:22.48 | dank_work | Hi Clyphox |
14:22.51 | dank_work | Yes. Yes it does. |
14:22.52 | Clyphox | Heya |
14:23.01 | Clyphox | Got a problem.. (kinda) though.. |
14:23.32 | dank_work | yeah..... |
14:23.42 | Clyphox | I installed the basic setup without X. now I can't even find it on the portsrc tree.. |
14:24.02 | dank_work | X would be in the base system, not the ports system |
14:24.04 | Clyphox | I am not in the mood for compiling it by hand at all |
14:24.16 | dank_work | :-) |
14:24.20 | Clyphox | where/how do I find that? |
14:24.29 | dank_work | ftp.netbsd.org |
14:24.43 | Clyphox | off course.. I forgot.. |
14:24.51 | Clyphox | like the bas .tgz's etc.. silly me.. |
14:24.57 | Clyphox | at least I got links going now.. |
14:24.59 | dank_work | :) |
14:25.01 | Clyphox | omw.. thanks |
14:25.11 | dank_work | Always hit the FTP :) |
14:25.14 | Clyphox | Damn it was slow extracting my .tar.gz though |
14:25.25 | Clyphox | took it over 15min to undo a 14meg file |
14:25.34 | dank_work | Heh |
14:25.40 | Clyphox | not funny imo.. |
14:25.55 | Clyphox | This is a 1900 Athlonm |
14:25.56 | dank_work | It is when it happens to someone else ;-) |
14:26.17 | Clyphox | I hope the smp suport isn't gonna make me suicidal.. |
14:26.29 | dank_work | NetBSD doesn't have SMP support, does it? |
14:26.39 | Clyphox | bleeding edge.. |
14:26.42 | Clyphox | afaik... |
14:26.54 | dank_work | Heh. |
14:26.55 | Clyphox | or else I will have to stick to slack.. |
14:27.03 | dank_work | It's only a computer. Not worth killing yourself over :) |
14:27.54 | dank_work | (to be honest, I prefer OpenBSD to NetBSD, but that's just my own opinion) |
14:28.08 | Clyphox | I lkiked obsd when I used it. |
14:28.14 | Clyphox | er "Liked" |
14:28.17 | dank_work | :) |
14:28.39 | Clyphox | but I've had a much nicer time with netBSD so far. Plus I like supporting the underdogs. |
14:28.56 | dank_work | :-) |
14:29.04 | Clyphox | Its more of a streamlined thing I find too.. |
14:29.16 | Clyphox | wow.. |
14:29.20 | Clyphox | I like :) |
14:29.22 | dank_work | Well....a bit |
14:29.24 | dank_work | :-) |
14:29.29 | dank_work | Nice and small, yeah? |
14:29.38 | Clyphox | nah.. I've had slack smaller hehe |
14:29.47 | dank_work | heh |
14:29.52 | Clyphox | Got it (compressed) down to 34Meg.. |
14:29.58 | dank_work | <g> |
14:30.01 | Clyphox | My own mini-crapless-slack |
14:30.26 | Clyphox | I use it for when I want a quick install.. |
14:30.31 | dank_work | :-) |
14:30.38 | dank_work | Slack is good for that |
14:30.53 | Clyphox | Its just very sane. layout and all |
14:31.16 | Clyphox | A bit annoying sometimes.. |
14:31.44 | Clyphox | Wish it didn't ship with crap like netscape6 etc..but its still the best |
14:32.13 | dank_work | yeah |
14:34.06 | Clyphox | How do I install the xbase.tgz .. (add_pkg ~/xbase.tgz ?) |
14:34.16 | dank_work | I think so |
14:34.28 | dank_work | Or tar -xzf xbase.tgz |
14:34.41 | Clyphox | yeah but in the root methinks.. |
14:34.47 | dank_work | Yup |
14:36.22 | Clyphox | Woops!! just rm -rf /usr |
14:36.24 | Clyphox | !! |
14:36.46 | Clyphox | shoulda been ./usr |
14:36.51 | dank_work | :) |
14:36.53 | Clyphox | heh.. hope it still works.. |
14:37.51 | dank_work | :) |
14:37.51 | Clyphox | hehe.. seems awk has died.. |
14:38.29 | Clyphox | I should burn this.. |
14:39.06 | Clyphox | Lucky this is just my test install.. |
14:39.32 | Clyphox | Glad I got this far. Still not familliar with then environment yet though |
14:41.21 | dank_work | Yeah |
14:43.35 | Clyphox | yup.. netbsd has had smp support since 7th of Jan.. bleeding edge.. :) |
14:43.42 | Clyphox | Think I'll give it a try.. |
14:43.48 | dank_work | Good luck :) |
14:44.21 | Clyphox | As long as the os is Open.. runs X/blackbox/Xmms/Quake3/php-apache-mysql I am a happy fan :) |
14:44.40 | Clyphox | and unix(ish) too hehe |
14:45.28 | Clyphox | Open? |
14:45.38 | dank_work | Darwin (the core) is, Aqua isn't |
14:45.58 | Clyphox | I had this kinda debate with the sales bloke at the Expo last year.. |
14:46.10 | Clyphox | I was impressed but I don't have the money.. |
14:46.20 | Clyphox | What is the liscense like? |
14:46.27 | dank_work | No idea. |
14:47.13 | Clyphox | well this is why I feel sorry for the bsd crowd.. |
14:47.21 | dank_work | Why? |
14:47.29 | Clyphox | GNU ppl can take BSD code and use it in their GNU programs |
14:47.31 | dank_work | It's their choice what licence they want to use |
14:47.47 | Clyphox | But BSD ppl can't take GNU code and use it in their BSD code without converting to GNU |
14:48.26 | dank_work | Well, that's the licence. That's life. |
14:48.31 | Clyphox | Its just a little un-fair.. Way better than proprietry still... |
14:48.49 | dank_work | That's just GNU being unfair then :) |
14:48.58 | Clyphox | I know.. |
14:49.23 | Clyphox | Its just that athough gnu is wonderfull coders don't fully understand what the effects know.. |
14:49.34 | dank_work | yeah |
14:49.46 | Clyphox | maybe I should make a website.. dedicated to lisences |
14:49.58 | Clyphox | with forums/descriptions etc.. |
14:50.10 | dank_work | If you're really bored :) |
14:50.13 | Clyphox | would be coll if ppl used it for refrence.. |
14:50.29 | Clyphox | yeah.. I'm not dedicated enough.. just another pip-dream |
14:50.33 | Clyphox | er pipe-dream |
14:50.34 | dank_work | :-) |
14:52.14 | StuartC_ | fsf website details quite a lot. tho you may consider some of the comments bias, and it doesn't have a forum as you suggest :) |
14:52.53 | Clyphox | cool.. |
14:52.55 | StuartC_ | http://www.fsf.org/licenses/license-list.html and related pages |
15:08.54 | Clyphox | Gtg.. boss.. |
15:08.58 | dank_work | :) |
15:09.01 | Clyphox | lurking around.. :( |
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15:09.43 | dank_work | ah |
15:09.46 | dank_work | hi skugg_ |
15:09.49 | Clyphox | I think I will quite happily use O/N BSD for my servers now... proberbly Obsd for fws.. |
15:09.55 | Clyphox | anyhow.. gtg.. cya.. |
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15:15.41 | dank_work | Hi Axel, zimm |
15:15.49 | Axel | hi |
15:15.54 | dank_work | :) |
15:15.56 | dank_work | SleepIRC |
15:16.01 | zimm | aye |
15:16.07 | Axel | w00t? |
15:16.36 | zimm | brb coffee , foodage , etc .. |
15:16.53 | Axel | bah - irc.quakenet.org is down.. again |
15:17.36 | dank_work | Thanks Axel :) |
15:17.40 | zimm | w00h000 |
15:17.41 | Axel | np |
15:17.43 | zimm | anyway , brb |
15:17.49 | Axel | <cookie-in-tea-dip> |
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15:33.32 | dank_work | wb |
15:34.08 | dank_work | You're a gluttong for punishment, you are |
15:34.15 | zimm | :) |
15:37.09 | zimm | who do you work for anyway dank_work ? |
15:37.22 | dank_work | Causeway Technologies (www.causeway-tech.com) |
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15:44.44 | zimm | hmm , dank_work , ive just read that site for like 5 minutes .. |
15:44.52 | zimm | what do they do ? |
15:44.56 | dank_work | Heh :) |
15:45.04 | dank_work | Provide software to the construction industry |
15:45.26 | zimm | can builders use PC's ? |
15:45.43 | dank_work | The manglement can a bit |
15:47.40 | zimm | i still dont quite see the point of it .. but hey as long as its profitable .. |
15:47.47 | dank_work | yeah |
15:47.53 | zimm | brb |
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15:51.08 | zimm | woohoo , kmail actually works now ! |
15:55.07 | Axel | dan, zimm: may i throw yet another *silly* question in your relative direction? |
15:55.22 | zimm | carry on .. |
15:55.25 | Axel | thx |
15:55.37 | Axel | i'm trying to add a smb share to my fstab list |
15:56.11 | Axel | is this correct: -> smb://[ip]/[share] /[mountpoint] defaults,umask 000 0 0 |
15:56.43 | Axel | like: smb://192.168.0.3/www /web defaults,umask=000 0 0 |
15:57.35 | zimm | Axel: sorry man , cant help with that one .. dont use smb |
15:57.58 | Axel | :( |
15:59.57 | Tarragon | Thought it would be smb://192.168.0.3/www /web noauto,user,workgoup=WEB 0 0 |
16:00.21 | Axel | hmmm |
16:01.58 | Tarragon | The /web is the mount point and a user would need user in mstab to unmount it I think |
16:02.29 | Axel | cheers |
16:05.00 | Axel | actually, this one works -> //192.168.0.3/www /web smbfs user,exec,rw,gid=axel,uid=axel,username=axel,password=mother |
16:05.08 | Axel | =) |
16:05.48 | dank_work | Err. |
16:05.56 | dank_work | Yeah. What you said last |
16:06.12 | Axel | hm? |
16:06.21 | dank_work | "this one works" |
16:06.26 | Axel | yep |
16:06.30 | Axel | that's what i said |
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16:12.09 | dank_work | wb zimm |
16:13.04 | zimm | heh , |
16:13.33 | zimm | who was it who was looking for idsoftware games downloads ? |
16:14.02 | zimm | ftp://mirrors.xmission.com/idsoftware |
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16:20.01 | dank_work | Hey babe |
16:20.14 | jenson | hey babe |
16:21.03 | dank_work | Oh go on. Say it. (at least on /msg) |
16:24.24 | zimm | hey jenson |
16:24.54 | jenson | Hey zimm |
16:42.48 | zachary | brb |
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16:43.35 | jenson | hey formi |
16:43.47 | dank_work | Hi formi |
16:44.18 | jenson | How are you formi? |
16:44.31 | formi | hello |
16:45.01 | formi | I require somebody with a slight idea of PHP |
16:45.09 | dank_work | I have a very slight idea |
16:45.32 | jenson | Can't help ya therte formi |
16:52.29 | zimm | what song ? |
16:52.40 | jenson | Sarah Fimm - Sexual Animals |
16:52.55 | jenson | http://www.mp3.com/sarahfimm |
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16:53.32 | jenson | wb zachary |
16:53.39 | zachary | ty jenson |
16:58.20 | zimm | jenson: you fancy dcc'ing that track ? i cant be assed signing up for mp3.com .. |
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16:58.57 | dank_work | Hi Davilion |
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17:03.55 | dank_work | wb babe |
17:04.12 | Davilion | hi dank_work |
17:04.13 | jenson | zimm: Dunnp how to dcc of BitchX, plus I dont think I can do it whilest I'm sshing in anyway |
17:04.19 | jenson | hey Davilion |
17:04.21 | jenson | ty dank_work |
17:04.23 | Davilion | hi jenson |
17:04.25 | zimm | jenson: np .. :) |
17:04.39 | Davilion | got a nice email from a collegue, well it wasnt nice, he was freaking out, but it made me feel better |
17:04.55 | jenson | zimm: But remind me tonight when hopefully I'll have my computer sorted then I can |
17:04.55 | dank_work | That's just cruel |
17:05.25 | Davilion | dank_work: it was in reference to leeds uni, im really glad other people think they are idiots, i was beginning to think it was just me who thought that. |
17:05.31 | zimm | jenson: ok .. ,, the slack install is coming along then ? |
17:05.48 | dank_work | Ah right. |
17:06.01 | jenson | zimm: Nah, but I oughta at least sort Win |
17:06.26 | dank_work | This to do with your colleague who keeps reconfiguring your systems? |
17:07.08 | zimm | jenson: ahh ok .. |
17:07.35 | jenson | zimm good idea |
17:07.39 | dank_work | No. |
17:07.43 | zimm | lol |
17:07.50 | dank_work | Don't pollute my girlfriend |
17:07.59 | zimm | roflmao |
17:08.13 | zimm | nice choice of words dank_work |
17:08.18 | Davilion | dank_work: no, its due to negative association with their central it services, like you tell them how to run a bit of software and they do the exact oposite |
17:08.38 | Davilion | but debian is so nice |
17:08.50 | dank_work | Davilion: So just like a lot of IT departments, then? |
17:09.14 | Davilion | yeah, only these guys are really bad |
17:09.48 | dank_work | Heh |
17:10.46 | Davilion | anybody suggest a good solution to sisters who break cd's? |
17:11.08 | zimm | cut hteir feet off ? |
17:11.13 | jenson | Davilion: Yeah, girlfriends that break ciomputers |
17:11.32 | Davilion | zimm: yeah thats an option |
17:11.36 | Davilion | but my parents wouldnt be happy with that |
17:11.46 | Davilion | i was thinking more like sending her off in a box to china or something |
17:11.46 | zimm | hmm , would make a bit of a mess |
17:12.09 | Davilion | yeah i like my carpets as they are |
17:12.20 | jenson | either |
17:13.32 | Davilion | i tihnk i'll just plaster her cd player with cheap superglue (You know the stuff that doesnt stick to anything except skin, to which it bonds instantly) |
17:14.10 | jenson | Davilion: Good idea, remind me not to erm, come near you when you have glue |
17:14.27 | Davilion | heh |
17:15.12 | dank_work | You could just run copies of your CDs |
17:15.37 | dank_work | Oh? |
17:15.46 | Davilion | i normally do, in fact the firstr thing i normally do is rip them, then burn a copy for the car and put the original somewhere safe |
17:15.49 | jenson | Or rather innocent comment that got twistedd lol |
17:15.54 | dank_work | :) |
17:16.11 | Davilion | except my somewhere safe aint so safe now she's found my cd cupboard :(( |
17:16.17 | dank_work | Hehe |
17:16.35 | Davilion | at least 30 of my cd's are now not in their boxes, probably scratched to death by now. |
17:16.43 | jenson | Davilion: Feel free to keep your CDs here :D |
17:16.45 | Davilion | theres a whole section missing from my collection |
17:16.53 | Davilion | she hasnt even looked at the titles, just taken them all |
17:16.57 | dank_work | Hehe |
17:17.56 | Davilion | thankfully Stacy has offered to take me out and give me coffee and chinese food before my sister gets home. |
17:18.12 | jenson | yay |
17:18.15 | skugg_ | dank_work, who is this? cat? dog? little sister? |
17:18.24 | dank_work | That's better |
17:18.34 | dank_work | skugg_: Eh? |
17:18.39 | jenson | hey skugg |
17:18.50 | skugg | dank_work, tab-complete bug... was meant to be Davilion :) |
17:18.58 | skugg | hi by the way |
17:19.02 | dank_work | :) |
17:19.03 | dank_work | hi |
17:19.06 | skugg | to all of you :) |
17:19.35 | jenson | Where'd zimm go? |
17:20.09 | Davilion | skugg: sister |
17:20.11 | skugg | dank_work, is that right? |
17:20.25 | dank_work | Well, you can either wave or particle |
17:20.35 | Davilion | :) |
17:20.41 | skugg | dank_work, i see. thankfully my sibling doesn't like my music, so i get to keep my cds :P |
17:20.52 | dank_work | Err. Thanks for that image, Dave |
17:20.56 | skugg | dank_work, ah. |
17:21.12 | Davilion | jenson: you were right |
17:21.20 | jenson | hehehehe |
17:21.20 | Davilion | this is what started my whole big rant off |
17:21.23 | skugg | :) |
17:21.35 | dank_work | :-) |
17:21.35 | Davilion | i've been wandering around in my socks for about 30 minutes |
17:21.46 | jenson | Socks and boxers? |
17:22.01 | Davilion | i was getting changed, when i thought to myself, 'hmm, isnt it a shame joe strummer's dead. Ahah, why not put on some clash' |
17:22.23 | jenson | nice song |
17:22.23 | Davilion | so i looked in my cd cupboard and went 'HOLY SHIT IVE BEEN FUCKING ROBBED AGAIN' then i remember i was at my parents, and that my sister lived here |
17:22.25 | jenson | dirty lol |
17:22.35 | skugg | from inside box |
17:22.44 | skugg | that looks wrong by the way :P |
17:22.45 | Davilion | so i went up stairs (Im home alone) and went into my sisters room to see a big long pile of my cd's all everywhere |
17:22.46 | dank_work | But that spoils the experiment |
17:22.47 | Davilion | then i went mental |
17:23.04 | skugg | Davilion, "tries to" |
17:23.11 | skugg | s,Davilion ,dank_work , |
17:23.43 | Davilion | im perfectly calm (If you dont count the ball of terrible rage) |
17:24.21 | jenson | Ahhhh 3 /msgs at once |
17:24.24 | jenson | make that 5 |
17:24.24 | jenson | lol |
17:24.29 | dank_work | Aren't you lucky |
17:24.29 | jenson | 6 |
17:24.31 | jenson | slow down lol |
17:25.06 | skugg | dank_work, you're not alone... |
17:26.00 | skugg | it's okay, really, since I'm trying to break lose and go and do some work :) |
17:26.04 | dank_work | :-) |
17:26.07 | dank_work | ibot lart Davilion |
17:26.11 | jenson | Bugger off skugg :D |
17:26.36 | zimm | ibot insult dank_work |
17:26.37 | skugg | yeah yeah, that's what they all say :D |
17:26.43 | dank_work | ibot insult zimm |
17:26.55 | Davilion | heh |
17:27.06 | skugg | ho-hum ... so there's a difference between insult and lart now? |
17:27.13 | jenson | Ask Dave > about what he's been reading lol |
17:27.22 | dank_work | Davilion: What have you been reading? |
17:27.26 | Davilion | i heard it on the radio actually |
17:27.33 | dank_work | What is it? |
17:27.36 | jenson | TYhats whaty i meant |
17:27.38 | jenson | lol |
17:27.40 | Davilion | like viagra, only not. |
17:27.44 | dank_work | Eh? |
17:27.48 | zimm | eh >?# |
17:27.51 | Davilion | lasts longer or something. |
17:27.56 | dank_work | Ah right. |
17:28.12 | skugg | Davilion, viagra on steroids? |
17:28.47 | Davilion | skugg: yeah pretty much |
17:29.21 | skugg | I saw something about that the other day -> http://www.normalnofobia.com/nnf_skladiste/pages/Never%20mix%20viagra%20with%20steroids.htm |
17:30.52 | Davilion | skugg: lmfao |
17:31.36 | jenson | My mother has just totally jammed paper in a printer lol |
17:31.48 | dank_work | heh |
17:31.59 | jenson | At least she thinks she has, she cant see it |
17:32.03 | Davilion | heh |
17:32.05 | jenson | asnd neither could i lol |
17:32.08 | Davilion | the illusive paper jam that isnt there |
17:32.11 | Davilion | i remember those |
17:33.25 | jenson | BRB |
17:34.15 | Davilion | right i need to head off. |
17:34.23 | Davilion | else i'll get stuck in the snow |
17:34.23 | Davilion | bbl |
17:34.27 | skugg | me too. need to code some more. |
17:34.34 | skugg | bye people |
17:37.09 | zimm | not in public dank_work |
17:37.11 | zimm | please |
17:37.18 | dank_work | She's the exhibitionist :) |
17:37.37 | dank_work | Anyway, poking is just sticking a finger into someone's side to get their attention |
17:37.44 | zimm | ahh ,, |
17:37.47 | jenson | back |
17:37.49 | dank_work | If you insist on giving it dirty connotations, that's your problem :) |
17:37.52 | dank_work | wb babe |
17:38.08 | dank_work | Bah. |
17:38.11 | zimm | lol |
17:38.12 | dank_work | That was rude. |
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17:38.37 | dank_work | wb babe |
17:38.43 | jenson | ty babe |
17:38.45 | dank_work | :) |
17:44.29 | Axel | does anyone know the difference between emacs and emacs21-x ? |
17:44.45 | dank_work | -x has X support? |
17:44.54 | Axel | hmm |
17:46.09 | jenson | /query |
17:46.25 | jenson | lol |
17:56.53 | jenson | Time to go |
17:56.55 | jenson | See ya guys |
17:56.58 | dank_work | :-( |
17:57.06 | zimm | laters jenson |
17:57.12 | jenson | cya zimm |
17:57.13 | dank_work | Bye J |
17:59.15 | jenson | Bye all |
18:00.09 | dank_work | Hum |
18:01.08 | zimm | excellent,, socks located less than 2 feet away |
18:01.22 | dank_work | Presumably not on your feet? |
18:01.29 | zimm | lol |
18:01.48 | zimm | im not tall , but i aint that short |
18:02.16 | dank_work | My socks are currently about 4.5 feet away from my head |
18:03.12 | dank_work | Yes. |
18:03.23 | dank_work | And what's wrong with being short, anyway? Jenson's short. :) |
18:03.33 | zimm | i know , |
18:03.43 | zimm | but she's a girl , she's allowed to be short |
18:03.48 | dank_work | Hehehe :) |
18:04.11 | dank_work | I'm about 5'11" |
18:04.20 | dank_work | So bang on average, pretty much |
18:05.02 | zimm | any pics of you online ? |
18:05.25 | dank_work | Yeah. |
18:05.32 | dank_work | Just the head, or the whole body? |
18:05.37 | zimm | whatever |
18:05.48 | dank_work | http://eco.li/dan.shtml |
18:05.59 | dank_work | (that's probably about the best picture of me around) |
18:06.15 | dank_work | Otherwise, if you dig around http://eco.li/photos/ then there's some others |
18:07.07 | zimm | jesus , you look like you've a head full of opiates |
18:07.09 | zimm | lol |
18:07.18 | dank_work | Hehe :) I've never done drugs. |
18:07.30 | zimm | i know , thats why its funny |
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20:10.07 | new2unix | its good to be back. |
20:10.40 | new2unix | i know you all missed me. Now where do i begin? |
20:12.51 | Stephen | by switching ISP? |
20:13.09 | Stephen | sorry ;) |
20:14.00 | new2unix | Do they owe you money? What do you have against them? |
20:15.08 | zachary | AOL sucks, slow and do not provide support for Linux. Not to mention dodgy support and service. |
20:16.14 | Stephen | and i hate their fscking adverts and 'free' CDs |
20:16.50 | formi | they are going downhill so who cares |
20:17.32 | new2unix | "AOL Sucks" True. "AOL is Slow" Just as slow as the others. "AOL does not provide support for Linux" Very few ISP's openly admit to supporting *nix. Support is good enough for those who call. I dont. I bin their CD's and DO NOT use their email account or content. |
20:18.38 | Stephen | 'Just as slow as the others' my ISP isn't slow at all ;) |
20:19.22 | Stephen | at least when the rest of the students aren't downloading pr0n it's not |
20:19.27 | Stephen | :p |
20:19.47 | zachary | No, AOL is slow compared to every ISP that I've seen. My ISP doesn't officially support Linux but at least it can be done. |
20:20.14 | formi | the worst on the uk is freenetname |
20:20.35 | Stephen | oh well, at the end of the day, you pays your money and you takes your choice |
20:21.04 | formi | i kind of use blueyonder |
20:21.18 | new2unix | I have partially succeeded in installing AOL on debian. OK so it didnt work completely but that is probably cos i lack patience in that area of things :) |
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20:21.41 | formi | as a ssh-tunnel carrier |
20:24.19 | new2unix | Ok. the reason why i am still with AOL after all these years is cos i cant be bothered to fork out exrtra cash to get a hardware modem. I have 3 pci modems that are all winmodems that dont work with the linux drivers provided on google etc. And AOL dont cut me off after extensive time online. Spending 118 minutes online is not uncommon. |
20:25.16 | formi | I pay £12 and spend 300+ hours a month, |
20:28.45 | new2unix | what isp? |
20:28.58 | formi | blueyonder |
20:29.02 | formi | telewest |
20:29.04 | new2unix | dialup? |
20:29.53 | new2unix | Oh. another reason i like AOL is that i am automatically asumed a newb and so get away with asking utterly stupid questions on irc :D |
20:30.37 | formi | obviously |
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20:39.27 | zachary | bbl |
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20:44.55 | new2unix | sorry. your point was? so my modem is among the many thousand vulnerable to that attack. and you succeeded in kicking me off. now what? why such childish behaviour, whoever you are? |
20:46.23 | new2unix | to think that i was in the middle of something very important wha=en my box rebooted. yesh. anyways... best you remain in the shadows of the internet. |
20:47.20 | Stephen | new2unix: i wouldn't have thought anyone in here would do such a thing |
20:48.11 | formi | who kicked you? |
20:49.02 | new2unix | neither do i but... this is the first time i've been on irc in about 8months. i havent had this happen to me in about that long. anyways... its all good. i guess thats what goes with admitting to using a shitty isp + dialup + windows. :D |
20:50.05 | formi | new2unix: stop being paranoid |
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20:52.08 | new2unix | lol. cant help it. my very old debain laptop has an uptime of 195days. this pc is struggling to compete. but something always happens to cause it to reboot. hmmm. :) |
20:53.44 | formi | i need to go, see you in a while |
20:53.52 | new2unix | seeya. |
20:56.05 | new2unix | folks. i have a PII350 and a PIII450 i recently purchased from work. not sure why i bout them. any suggestion on what to use them for? a standalone firewall is a bit excessive for my needs at the moment. and i want to play about with them before i decide to donate them or sell them off. |
20:57.03 | zimm | put distcc on them and use them as a compile farm ! |
20:57.48 | new2unix | that would be good if i was a programmer. i'm new2unix remember. :p |
20:59.09 | zimm | in that case , install different distro's on every box you have and get to know them all intimatly |
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21:01.35 | new2unix | good idea. i'm kinda confident with debian. and ive only just installed FreeBSD on another. perhaps its time i tried Redhat. or even Solaris for intel. Anybody got access to solaris 9? |
21:02.50 | zimm | debian is good |
21:04.35 | new2unix | i'm trying to get to grips with Free. not as easy as Debian. Slack was incredibly easy to install considering the bad press or NO press it has been getting. |
21:10.45 | zimm | ive never tried slack .. |
21:11.11 | zimm | went mandrake , redhat , lycoris , libranet , debian ,, and stuck with debian |
21:12.14 | new2unix | i went Redhat, SuSE, Debian, slackware, debian, knoppix and a bit of FreeBSD |
21:12.24 | new2unix | now back to debian. |
21:12.42 | new2unix | oh and windows inbetween. lol |
21:15.13 | new2unix | gotta go. seeya'll on the 1st |
21:15.14 | zimm | hehe |
21:15.19 | zimm | laters |
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21:32.42 | zachary | I think my printer is about to die. |
21:33.31 | zimm | :-( |
21:39.15 | zachary | good night, I'm off to bed. |
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21:41.30 | zimm | hey cupis |
21:42.02 | cupis | hey zimm |
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21:50.01 | cupis | wb zimm |
21:50.08 | zimm | :) |
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21:55.07 | zimm | wb Jenson |
21:55.10 | cupis | evening J |
21:55.23 | Jenson | ty zimm |
21:55.25 | Jenson | hey cupis |
21:57.01 | cupis | Jenson: are you any calmer this evening, Jenson? |
21:57.48 | Jenson | cupis: I'm not stressed |
21:57.52 | Jenson | Just sleepy |
21:57.57 | Jenson | and a litle unhappy |
21:58.00 | Jenson | But I'm o |
21:58.00 | cupis | Jenson: good |
21:58.01 | Jenson | k |
21:58.03 | Jenson | ok |
21:58.04 | Jenson | lol |
21:58.10 | Jenson | How are you? |
21:58.30 | cupis | you're unhappy? I'm fine, thank you. |
21:58.58 | Jenson | I'm unhappy most of the time so nothing new there |
22:00.14 | cupis | only most of the time? When are you not unhappy? |
22:00.44 | Jenson | cupis: When I'm with Dan, and when I'm asleep. |
22:01.00 | Jenson | Although I was crying when Dan was here on Saturday, my fault again. |
22:01.22 | cupis | Jenson: I recommend you go to sleep. |
22:01.47 | Jenson | Dan qill be here about 11 |
22:01.49 | cupis | Jenson: I thought it was traditional for the male to get the blame? |
22:02.01 | Jenson | Jst been on the phone to him for an hour and a half |
22:02.18 | cupis | Jenson: think you'll still be awake then? |
22:02.30 | Jenson | No cupis I was hurting him by flirting with other members of the channel, I saew how much I was hurting him, and got all fucked you about it |
22:02.34 | Jenson | I might be awake |
22:02.35 | Jenson | lol |
22:03.23 | cupis | Jenson: maybe you shuoldn't flirt with outher member of the channel (or other people in general, for that matter [in front of Dan?]) |
22:06.34 | Jenson | True |
22:06.39 | Jenson | Axel: BBC out where you are too |
22:06.41 | Axel | is anyone else lacking BBC tonight? |
22:06.42 | Jenson | We got it here |
22:06.44 | Jenson | Dan is |
22:06.57 | Axel | yeah, BBC1 for 15min, BBC2 is still offline |
22:07.02 | Axel | SW15 |
22:07.04 | Axel | grml |
22:07.09 | Jenson | We had that problem a couple of weeks back |
22:07.28 | Axel | i missed an important quarter of RedCap and can't watch Hapiness... *whinge* |
22:07.51 | Axel | well, at least it's not just me ;p |
22:08.00 | Jenson | I forgot to watch Holby City lol |
22:08.03 | cupis | I have BBC1, not BBC2 (SM3) |
22:08.17 | Jenson | AFAIK we still have both |
22:08.19 | Jenson | I'll look |
22:08.21 | Axel | cupis: sm3? |
22:08.59 | Axel | great, and now evolution is messing about... |
22:09.28 | Axel | can't these ppl write stable code? at least it could shut down without breaking things... |
22:09.33 | Axel | </rant> |
22:09.35 | Jenson | We've got all 5 channels |
22:09.35 | cupis | Axel: postcode Sutton, Surrey |
22:09.42 | Axel | Jenson: luck girl |
22:09.47 | Axel | cupis: ah :) |
22:09.48 | Jenson | I'm in CO10 |
22:10.08 | Axel | how can they possible achieve a near system wide failure? |
22:10.15 | Jenson | (Colchester area) |
22:11.26 | Axel | at least BTs ADSL exchanges <coughcough> have better uptimes than the Beep |
22:11.46 | Axel | cu |
22:12.06 | *** join/#gllug Davilion (~irvined@ppp-0-141.lond-a-2.access.uk.tiscali.com) |
22:12.13 | Davilion | evening all |
22:12.57 | cupis | evening Davilion |
22:13.18 | cupis | vindicated? |
22:13.19 | Davilion | hi cupis |
22:13.21 | Davilion | hows it going? |
22:13.48 | Davilion | yeah, my sister fucked half my cd collection today, so i got to be very 'matter of fact' and convey my deepest bitterness to her |
22:14.15 | Davilion | dont think its going to stop the cd scratching but i feel i've conveyed my pissedoffness |
22:14.20 | Davilion | i hope my cd collection is the only tihng im remotely anal about |
22:14.35 | cupis | Davilion: and you fell better for it? |
22:14.56 | Davilion | not really, well yes, i dont like being stern |
22:14.58 | Davilion | its just not me. |
22:14.58 | cupis | Davilion: it's going okay, thanks |
22:15.30 | Davilion | i think my camera, and my music, anything else doesnt matter, but if my house was burning down, i'd run in and grab my photo albums and my music collection. |
22:16.16 | cupis | how did she damage your CD's? Dare I ask? |
22:16.26 | Davilion | this is going to sound so anal.... |
22:16.54 | Davilion | but generally by just not taking care of them, she took about 40 or so of them and just littered them around her room, so they are all scratched, and the inlay card thingies are all missing etc etc etc |
22:18.00 | Davilion | i buy so much music, i normally just copy it as soon as i buy it, and stuff it in the cupboard so its safe, and it was until my sister found the cupboard. |
22:19.13 | cupis | Davilion: buy a lock? |
22:19.48 | Davilion | cupis: i download more than i buy. |
22:19.55 | Davilion | i tend to download, then buy. |
22:20.03 | Davilion | but i buy a lot of stuff you just can't get anywhere else, like unsigned stuff |
22:20.26 | cupis | I tend to use my 'wireless' :) |
22:20.52 | Davilion | ahh. |
22:21.02 | Davilion | i do that too, only via the web, if that makes sense. |
22:21.36 | cupis | of course |
22:23.46 | cupis | note to self - do not gulp when you are holding screws in your mouth |
22:23.57 | Davilion | heh, what you building? |
22:24.02 | Davilion | oh you mean computer case screw? |
22:24.36 | cupis | yeah |
22:24.42 | cupis | upgrading someones computer a little |
22:26.27 | Davilion | cool. |
22:27.17 | Davilion | I've got that to look forward to later, i think were upgrading a VA-linux cluster for one of our customers, that should provide some entertainment |
22:27.17 | Davilion | ibot seen Jenson |
22:27.17 | | jenson is currently on #gllug (32m 27s). Has said a total of 29 messages. Is idling for 17m 2s |
22:27.31 | Jenson | I'm on the phone Dave |
22:27.40 | Davilion | ahh ok. |
22:27.45 | Davilion | wondered why it was so quiet. |
22:27.51 | Jenson | lol |
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22:34.04 | Jenson | hey formi |
22:34.12 | formi | allo |
22:34.53 | cupis | 'ello formi |
22:35.34 | Jenson | zimm: I wouldn't have guessed |
22:35.44 | zimm | lol |
22:36.46 | cupis | Jenson: what? |
22:36.47 | Jenson | lol |
22:36.56 | Jenson | That the Scottish accent is well sexy on guys :) |
22:37.08 | Davilion | heh |
22:37.13 | zimm | heh |
22:37.16 | Davilion | what brings you to that conclusion? |
22:37.44 | Jenson | Davilion: The fact that you and zimm have Scottish accents :D |
22:37.53 | Davilion | i dont rate it myself, although i will lay it on pretty thick when im abroad to try it out so to speak |
22:38.56 | Davilion | i dont, i think it gets noticably wavey when im really tense or nervous |
22:39.07 | Jenson | Everyone does lol |
22:39.39 | murb | wavey? |
22:39.46 | Jenson | hi murb |
22:40.01 | Davilion | shakey i guess |
22:42.49 | Jenson | BRB - rabbit feeding time :D |
22:43.38 | formi | tricky question comming up |
22:44.05 | formi | you have a machine plugged to a hub, you don't know the ip address |
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22:44.24 | Davilion | hi dankolb |
22:44.37 | dankolb | Hey all |
22:44.41 | dankolb | Hi Dave |
22:44.46 | cupis | evening dankolb |
22:44.52 | formi | any way of finding it out? without ping the whole load of private range ip |
22:45.11 | zimm | hey dankolb |
22:45.14 | cupis | formi: log into the machine and use ifconfig? |
22:45.18 | cupis | lol |
22:45.19 | dankolb | Hey zimm |
22:45.48 | formi | what if you can't log in? |
22:45.55 | cupis | 22:42:03 <Jenson> BRB - rabbit feeding time :D |
22:45.58 | dankolb | Ahh :) |
22:46.16 | cupis | formi: must the machine stay online? or are you physically unable to login? |
22:46.39 | zimm | formi: cant you ssh to the hostname rather than the ip ? |
22:46.43 | formi | the machine is a sparc running solaris, no keyboard, that's all i know |
22:46.57 | Davilion | dankolb: she's feeding her rabbit |
22:47.09 | dankolb | Yeah ) |
22:47.10 | dankolb | :) |
22:47.11 | formi | i tried the serial trick but didn't work |
22:47.16 | cupis | formi: what is it doing on the network? file serving? etc |
22:47.25 | formi | the machine is a sparc running solaris, no keyboard, that's all i know |
22:47.36 | formi | ALL I KNOW |
22:47.55 | cupis | formi: nmap |
22:48.26 | cupis | see what machines answer, and what open posts/servers they have? |
22:48.27 | formi | i don't know the ip number |
22:48.36 | Jenson | back |
22:48.45 | cupis | formi: nmap the subnet |
22:48.57 | Jenson | I think the worst part of feeding the rabbit is I had to ask my mum where the carrots were :D |
22:49.03 | formi | i don't know the subnet |
22:49.29 | Jenson | zimm: I encouraged you into that track |
22:49.30 | cupis | what is your entry point onto it's network? |
22:49.36 | zimm | Jenson: you did indeed . |
22:50.05 | dankolb | Thanks both |
22:50.14 | Tarragon | Connect the sparc with a crossover and nmap everything overnight |
22:50.36 | formi | i thought about that |
22:50.47 | formi | problem i can't find my crossover |
22:51.06 | cupis | formi: man nmap: -PI This option uses a true ping (ICMP echo request) packet. It finds hosts that are up... |
22:51.20 | Tarragon | Do you have a hub? |
22:51.34 | formi | yes |
22:52.51 | cupis | 22:48:37 <cupis> what is your entry point onto it's network? |
22:55.33 | Jenson | BRB - Driver install forcing reboot |
22:55.38 | dankolb | Heh |
22:55.50 | dankolb | The Wonderful World of Windows |
22:56.17 | zimm | hehe ,,, |
22:59.20 | dankolb | Sounds painful ;-) |
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23:10.47 | Davilion | nothing painful at all |
23:10.54 | dankolb | :) |
23:10.55 | Davilion | unless of course it was a grahame'd box |
23:11.01 | Davilion | whats a weeble? |
23:11.08 | dankolb | Yeah - I'm sure you'd enjoy being modprobed |
23:11.12 | Davilion | heh |
23:11.15 | zimm | weeble >> website |
23:11.22 | Davilion | i had a shock today. |
23:11.32 | zimm | electric ? |
23:12.03 | Davilion | i thought i was totally shagged, the system didnt have a network card with the right driver for it, and there was no fat support in the kernel for floppy disks to copy one to |
23:12.16 | Davilion | luckily i had the source and could make the 2.4.19 dos module |
23:12.23 | Davilion | i swear img oing to lart grahame so bad when i see him |
23:12.23 | dankolb | :) |
23:13.53 | Davilion | i was expecting to modprobe vfat and get a horrible error like 'loadable module support not compiled into kernel' |
23:13.56 | Davilion | which is the kind of thing he does |
23:13.59 | dankolb | :-) |
23:14.01 | dankolb | That's just evil |
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23:15.18 | stephen | yeah, vfat filesystems are evil |
23:15.32 | stephen | even though i still use them |
23:15.34 | dankolb | wb babe |
23:15.38 | Jenson | Is DirectX a MS product? |
23:15.43 | dankolb | Yes |
23:15.45 | zimm | yes] |
23:16.00 | Jenson | That's where I'll find it then |
23:16.20 | dankolb | Yes |
23:16.42 | Jenson | I found it now :) |
23:16.55 | Jenson | I thought DirectX was common to all OSs lol |
23:16.59 | Jenson | ty dankolb |
23:17.07 | dankolb | Heh |
23:17.08 | dankolb | :) |
23:21.09 | dankolb | hi Spud |
23:21.29 | SpudULike | Watchya all. So Dan, you all booked up? |
23:21.42 | Jenson | hey SpudULike |
23:21.54 | dankolb | Err... |
23:22.03 | SpudULike | Hey J! |
23:22.07 | Jenson | zimm: What you think of that track i told you? |
23:22.19 | zimm | Jenson: its funny |
23:22.28 | Jenson | It's dirty too |
23:22.30 | SpudULike | Dan: Cool, last minute, I like your style! |
23:22.32 | zimm | well , |
23:22.35 | dankolb | Heh :) |
23:22.36 | zimm | yes ,, that too |
23:22.49 | Jenson | I dont have it on CD |
23:23.33 | Stephen | but a disorganised life is so much more fun |
23:23.45 | dankolb | True |
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23:24.05 | Jenson | For example, out of interest how long does it take you guys to d/l about 10MB? |
23:24.08 | Davilion | hmm, i might be able to go to fosdem afterall i need to get my arse into gear methinks |
23:24.08 | dankolb | wb skugg |
23:24.14 | Davilion | about 20 seconds. |
23:24.15 | dankolb | Davilion: Well, hurry up |
23:24.24 | skugg | dankolb, hi. |
23:24.25 | zimm | Jenson: 10 minutes here .. 128k :-( |
23:24.27 | dankolb | Davilion: I'll be staying in a youth hostel |
23:24.36 | skugg | my screen session went tits-up |
23:24.39 | dankolb | Davilion: So if you want me to book for you, let me know |
23:24.46 | Jenson | zimm: I've got 42mins here lol |
23:24.51 | Stephen | 10 seconds on a good day |
23:24.55 | cupis | Jenson: 40-45 mins |
23:25.10 | Jenson | cupis: You're on the same dialup as me :P |
23:25.30 | Davilion | dankolb: i'll let you know, i need to consider my holiday options for the next month or so |
23:25.34 | Jenson | zimm: 10 mins would be nice as opposed to 42. |
23:25.35 | skugg | ah well. good night people. |
23:25.39 | skugg | off to bed now |
23:25.48 | dankolb | Davilion: Ahh....I'd ideally need to know tomorrow lunchtime, though |
23:26.09 | Jenson | bye skugg |
23:26.12 | dankolb | night skugg |
23:26.14 | Davilion | in that case, dont worry about it. thanks for the offer though |
23:26.25 | Davilion | i need to wait till after negotiations for next year are completed |
23:26.33 | dankolb | Davilion: Ah, okay. Well, if you still want to book yourself, Spud has the URL - there's still spaces |
23:26.42 | Davilion | cool. |
23:28.44 | Davilion | as i said i need to work out what i want to do holiday wise |
23:28.50 | Davilion | im going away for >5 weeks in the summer |
23:28.53 | Davilion | and dont have any sapre days as such |
23:28.57 | Davilion | but i was hoping for a weekend away in feb |
23:29.21 | dankolb | Ah |
23:29.27 | dankolb | Well, you'd have to pretty much take Friday off |
23:29.43 | Jenson | Or bunk work |
23:29.44 | Davilion | yeah |
23:29.44 | skugg | _ |
23:30.04 | Davilion | i can take days off, its jsut the more days i take off the less holiday days i can take later |
23:30.05 | Jenson | Says she who didnt even bunk school |
23:30.12 | dankolb | Good girl. |
23:30.16 | Jenson | Not until the stress set in anyway |
23:30.19 | dankolb | :( |
23:30.21 | Jenson | Then i thought fuck iy |
23:30.29 | Jenson | But I hardly missed anything |
23:31.51 | Jenson | I need to install DirectX |
23:32.05 | dankolb | Okay. How long will that take? |
23:32.06 | SpudULike | Davilion: Of course, if you just want to do the lecture bit of Fosdem, and not all that unsightly beer drinking nonsense, you can cram it into a weekend. I'm on the Coach out of London Victoria 10pm Friday, back 6am Monday. |
23:32.38 | Davilion | SpudULike: i'd be going for the drinking too |
23:32.46 | Davilion | else it would just be like working a weekend |
23:33.04 | dankolb | Davilion: The youth hostel won't cost much |
23:33.23 | Davilion | i know, its not the money, its simply making sure everythings kosher at work. |
23:33.34 | Davilion | if i leave, the workload goes berzerk when i get back |
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23:33.57 | dankolb | It's only one day, Dave |
23:34.02 | Jenson | Davilion: Leave it to the users :P |
23:34.11 | cupis_ | re |
23:34.17 | Davilion | dankolb: the last time i took a day off was a nightmare |
23:34.20 | Davilion | everythingh fell apart lol |
23:34.51 | dankolb | Davilion: Heh... |
23:34.56 | dankolb | Then you need a break :) |
23:35.22 | Davilion | dankolb: i know but if im to take a break i need a few weeks lol |
23:35.28 | Davilion | else i just have to do the work when i get back |
23:35.31 | dankolb | Heh |
23:35.33 | Davilion | if i go away for a month then somebody else has to do it |
23:35.54 | dankolb | All the problems go away. |
23:36.00 | dankolb | the magic pixies take care of them |
23:36.03 | Davilion | exactly |
23:36.22 | Jenson | What can I releive you 2 of today? :P |
23:36.32 | dankolb | You're dirty, babe. |
23:36.38 | dankolb | This is being logged |
23:36.44 | Jenson | Am not |
23:36.46 | Jenson | and I know |
23:37.02 | Davilion | Jenson: i have a stack of users to hit, you could write hte 'support rejection emails' for me |
23:37.05 | Davilion | mmm beer |
23:37.22 | Jenson | See, Davilion isn't dirty, are you hon? |
23:38.54 | Davilion | im not dirty, my mind is very cl.. cle..... cle..... Inn... I. Irnnnnchnt |
23:39.02 | dankolb | :-) |
23:39.09 | Jenson | Innocent? |
23:39.23 | dankolb | About as innocent as yours, babe. |
23:39.48 | Davilion | he |
23:39.48 | Jenson | cupis: I've done that, twice, and I think i fried the mobo whilst trying to change the RAM |
23:39.48 | Davilion | h |
23:40.21 | Jenson | dankolb: Me and Davilion are innocent as, erm, Bill Gates. |
23:40.31 | cupis | Jenson: the machine boots, but the HD I just installed is not found by the BIOS. Duh. Probably should have tested the HD first. |
23:40.37 | dankolb | Jenson: Don't discount me |
23:41.27 | Jenson | cupis: Yeah mine was like that, then it didnt do anything, saw the processor was loose, then it worked for a few mins, now it doesnt do anything again and the proccessor isnt loose |
23:41.50 | dankolb | zimm: I think you've answered that yourself |
23:41.58 | Jenson | Yeah one word |
23:42.02 | Jenson | Debian |
23:42.34 | Jenson | dankolb: You providing the soap :) |
23:42.42 | cupis | zimm: they were halfway through the gentoo install in only 4 hours? must have been using the binaries... |
23:42.42 | dankolb | You know it :) |
23:42.46 | zimm | dankolb: c'mon surely debian makes more sense than gentoo |
23:42.54 | dankolb | Debian never makes sense. |
23:42.55 | zimm | for a n00b |
23:43.14 | Davilion | but then again, im scottish. |
23:43.18 | dankolb | Exactly. |
23:43.25 | dankolb | And Scots are weird :) |
23:43.27 | Jenson | and zimm has a scottish accent |
23:43.41 | cupis | I am not Scottish |
23:43.46 | Jenson | cupis: What accent you got? |
23:43.56 | dankolb | Civilisation stop north of Watford Gap, anyway, as we all know |
23:44.13 | Jenson | lol dankolb |
23:44.17 | cupis | hmm, well I was brought up in Stratford/East Ham |
23:44.22 | Davilion | dankolb: i agree, although i would argue it does start again, briefly when you hit the a702 :P |
23:44.28 | dankolb | :-) |
23:44.32 | zimm | lol |
23:44.34 | Jenson | dankolb: Ah, but Scottish is nicer :P |
23:44.41 | dankolb | Jenson: No it's not :) |
23:44.46 | dankolb | You know you can't resist mine |
23:44.59 | dankolb | :) |
23:45.14 | cupis | Jenson: but it was? |
23:45.21 | Jenson | it was simply |
23:45.27 | Jenson | 'Prime Scottish Meat' |
23:45.29 | Jenson | lol |
23:45.33 | zimm | oh dear |
23:45.34 | dankolb | :) |
23:45.49 | Davilion | lol. |
23:45.52 | Jenson | zimm: I know lol |
23:45.52 | cupis | anybody want a cheep 20Gb hard disk? sold as seen. |
23:46.06 | Jenson | cupis: Does it work :P |
23:46.07 | Davilion | cupis, does it work as its designed? |
23:46.07 | Stephen | cupis: how much? |
23:46.08 | zimm | cupis: 50p ? |
23:46.11 | dankolb | Davilion: Put it away! |
23:46.14 | Davilion | lol |
23:46.16 | cupis | Jenson: um... |
23:46.22 | dankolb | We don't need that hanging over the channel, thank you. |
23:46.26 | dankolb | That's to do in private |
23:46.32 | cupis | zimm: no, I couldn't do that to you |
23:46.33 | zimm | if at all |
23:46.33 | Jenson | cupis: I don't want your hardware if it doesnt work..... |
23:46.50 | zimm | cupis: i need a new paper weight .. |
23:46.55 | cupis | Jenson: uh huh |
23:47.19 | cupis | it's not even my disk, but I feel like throughing it out a window |
23:47.37 | dankolb | Iggy pop? Sounds painful |
23:47.51 | Jenson | iggy pop is weird |
23:48.44 | dankolb | No-one reads the logs |
23:48.47 | Jenson | i did find it down the back of the CD storer |
23:49.10 | dankolb | Well, okay. |
23:49.16 | dankolb | Jenson is the only one who does |
23:49.22 | dankolb | And seeing as she's here, I don't care :) |
23:49.33 | Jenson | :) |
23:51.30 | Davilion | dankolb: my vinyl copy of raw power is scratched :(( |
23:51.40 | dankolb | Awww :( |
23:51.48 | dankolb | That really sucks |
23:52.11 | Davilion | yeah |
23:52.13 | Davilion | im gutted |
23:52.18 | zimm | raw power ? |
23:52.25 | Davilion | yeah, iggy and the stooges. |
23:52.31 | zimm | ahhaa |
23:52.33 | Davilion | you just can't buy vinyl with that on it any more. |
23:52.36 | Davilion | :(( |
23:52.42 | Davilion | i have a cd version but its not the same man! |
23:52.47 | zimm | true .. |
23:53.47 | dankolb | Davilion: Try Avid records in Oxford |
23:58.27 | zimm | woo , the ozric's |
23:58.32 | zimm | havent heard them in a while |
23:58.39 | SpudULike | Hey, that's wrong, download should be off. Sorry to disappoint. |
23:59.06 | zimm | hehe , |
23:59.41 | SpudULike | You see Dalnet are trying to stop file sharing. |