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00:00.06skuggheh. me too. i can read / understand basic german, but not write / talk it.
00:00.39skuggit's almost 9 years since I had it though. *shudder*
00:02.14zimmapparently i was fluent in french when i was 5 ..
00:02.25zimmguess i forgot it ..
00:03.17Axeli'm off to bed folks - cu later :)
00:03.21Axelgn8 all
00:03.25zimm:)
00:08.53skuggurk! sms-language...
00:09.10skugg:D
00:09.15zimmlol
00:10.59skuggtrue. i do too.
00:11.09zimmhorrrid fiddly 3-letter-to-a-key wank
00:11.26skuggnot just that, but the key's are so bloody small!
00:11.26zimmworse still ,,
00:11.40zimmpeople who ask questions via sms ..
00:11.52zimmthen get raty if you dont reply within 10 minutes !
00:23.01skuggyes.
00:23.07skuggdon't like that.
00:23.08zimmlol
00:23.13skugg:)
00:23.40skugghow much do you bet i waited intentionally? :D
00:24.09zimmi dont bet ..
00:24.13zimmbut i know ,,
00:24.37skuggi didn't... i'm very much a batch-processing human being. I was doing something else :P
00:25.56skuggand now I'm off to bed, and that means i'll be away from here for a while.
00:26.04zimmahh
00:26.10zimmwell , have fun :)
00:26.10skuggfor i cannot sleep and type at the same time ;)
00:26.25skuggtwo things at once you know... just cannot do it
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07:39.18eye69Morning
07:53.54resuDaed_YawaMorning
07:57.08eye69*yawn*
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08:05.53zacharyGood morning.
08:14.00TarragonOhhh pretty snow.
08:22.48Axelg'morning
08:23.20eye69'ello
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08:30.01resuDaed_sshmorning all
08:50.02resuDaedAxel : you there?
09:01.28Axelhuhu
09:13.17dank_workMorning
09:13.34Axelhi dan
09:14.12dank_workHow's it going?
09:20.56Axelbad
09:21.23Axelmy comp has spent all night compiling Qt and now the last part of the 3 part saga won't compile ;(
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09:23.21Axelwb resuDaed
09:23.31resuDaedthanks ... dodgy ram
09:23.56resuDaedAxel : is it still worth me emailing you my cv?
09:24.19dank_workAh :(
09:24.25dank_workibot seen davilion
09:24.25davilion <davilion@ppp-0-11.glas-b-2.access.uk.tiscali.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 10h 22m 21s ago, saying: 'or irssi when he's ssh'd'.
09:25.03AxelresuDaed: dunno - depends on your CV ;)
09:25.56resuDaedits not that great :(
09:26.21resuDaedI'll send you it anyway ... I'm off to bed, my gf wasn't too well last night so I didn't get much sleep :(
09:26.43Axel:(
09:26.47dank_work:-(
09:26.48Axelok - sleep well
09:26.53dank_workWhat's up with her?
09:27.43resuDaed<PROTECTED>
09:28.14resuDaedjust late at night was all
09:34.28dank_workAh right
09:37.01resuDaedwhat country code is KR ?
09:37.05dank_workKorea?
09:37.33AxelresuDaed: ok, got your CV :)
09:37.36resuDaedpossibly, is the orrigin of my only spam sender, and I am trying to find out the ISP
09:38.36resuDaednight all
09:38.59Axelgn8
09:39.29zacharybrb
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10:54.49dank_workwb zachary
10:55.01zacharyty
10:55.06dank_work:)
10:55.21Axelcomplile it in you bastard!...
10:55.38Axel*crying*
10:55.50zacharyAxel: I've been fighting mine for over a month. It is getting better.
10:55.52Axelit only took a night and it doesn't work...
10:56.00Axelthx dan
10:56.10Tarragonibot lart dank_work
10:56.15dank_work:-)
10:56.19dank_workibot insult Tarragon
10:56.23Axellol
10:56.33Tarragon:-)
10:57.32zacharyibot needs it's scripts scrubbed out with soap.
10:57.33bugger all, i dunno, zachary
10:57.51SpudUAwayLads!  I'd hate to take ops and start kicking people off, so be nice to eachother!
10:58.04SpudUAwayActually, I'd love it!!!!!!
10:58.10SpudUAway;-)
10:58.55SpudUAwayI am easily effected by power, which is why I'm not allowed to sit near trailing power cords.
10:58.58zacharyWell SpudUAway, what do you want us to talk about, technical stuff that might have something to do with this channel?
11:00.16SpudUAwayLike it, yes.  Is there a chance of it happening.......
11:00.20*** mode/#gllug [+o Tarragon] by ChanServ
11:00.26TarragonOH Yeah?
11:00.34*** mode/#gllug [-o Tarragon] by Tarragon
11:00.34SpudUAwayOh God.
11:00.47SpudUAwayActually, can you kick me?
11:00.55TarragonYes!
11:01.18*** mode/#gllug [+o SpudUAway] by ChanServ
11:01.21zacharyKick me, beat me, whip me please!
11:01.29SpudUAwayGo on then!
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11:01.47TarragonSwine!
11:01.51SpudUAwayWasn't me, didn't touch him occifer!
11:02.03zacharylol
11:02.14*** mode/#gllug [+o Tarragon] by ChanServ
11:02.16*** mode/#gllug [-o SpudUAway] by Tarragon
11:02.17*** mode/#gllug [+o SpudUAway] by ChanServ
11:02.23*** kick/#gllug [SpudUAway!~john@public1-stoc3-3-cust104.oldh.broadband.ntl.com] by Tarragon (Tarragon)
11:02.28*** mode/#gllug [-o Tarragon] by Tarragon
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11:02.40TarragonYep! No problem
11:02.55Stephenoh dear...
11:03.21SpudUAwayCool, so long as I know.
11:03.25Tarragondank_work: Why?
11:03.50dank_workJenson again.
11:04.04TarragonSpudUAway: The difference is you can always gain total control and ban me.
11:05.38Tarragondank_work: What to explain or should we just leave it with you.
11:06.03dank_workI guess I can explain in a few mins
11:07.44zacharySpudUAway: What did you think of the new covers?
11:09.27SpudUAwayI did think that, from the originals you sent, they should have a small Knoppix logo.  I now think that the Debian logo is better suited.  In short, I think they are cool.
11:10.27zacharyHow small?
11:12.42SpudUAwayAbout the size you have the Debian logo.  You don't need it now though.
11:20.09highburyHi guys
11:20.47zacharymorning highbury
11:20.50dank_workhi
11:20.55Axelhi highbury
11:22.05dank_workI feel like davilion is trying to take Jenson away
11:46.13Axelsilly question: how do install an .rpm?
11:46.27dank_workrpm -Uvh (or -ivh)
11:46.45Axelrpm -Uvh [package]
11:46.46Axelok
11:46.51Axelwhat does ivh do?
11:47.47dank_work-i = install ; -U = upgrade (or install) ; -v = verbose ; -h print hashes as progress indicators
11:48.07Axelthx
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12:06.07dank_workwb Spud
12:13.27dank_workThanks guys, for being here to talk to
12:13.40SpudUAwayBah, BY screwed again - colin@linux:~/Mags/LMI/29> ping 213.106.84.104
12:13.40SpudUAwayPING 213.106.84.104 (213.106.84.104) from 80.193.177.195 : 56(84) bytes of data.
12:13.40SpudUAway64 bytes from 213.106.84.104: icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=25.2 ms
12:13.40SpudUAway64 bytes from 213.106.84.104: icmp_seq=22 ttl=52 time=36.2 ms
12:13.40SpudUAway64 bytes from 213.106.84.104: icmp_seq=23 ttl=52 time=27.2 ms
12:13.41SpudUAway64 bytes from 213.106.84.104: icmp_seq=24 ttl=52 time=27.2 ms
12:13.44SpudUAway--- 213.106.84.104 ping statistics ---
12:14.07SpudUAway27 packets transmitted, 4 received, 85% loss, time 26057ms
12:14.07SpudUAwayrtt min/avg/max/mdev = 25.232/28.982/36.207/4.251 ms
12:14.21SpudUAwayWhoops, only meant for the last line to go.
12:14.48dank_workOops
12:25.53SpudUAwayping 80.193.177.195
12:26.11SpudUAwayhahahahaha, too many screens.
12:26.19dank_work:)
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12:30.10highburyits snowing in North London
12:31.26lAmEdUcKthats good
12:31.32lAmEdUcKit snows here all the time :)\
12:33.28highburyand with that, he disappears, for us all to wonder .....
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12:43.13dank_workHi jenson
12:43.22jensonhey dank_work
12:43.23dank_workNot going to Tescos, then?
12:43.36jensondank_work: Guess what, ther eis well loads of dust in thisd FDD lol
12:43.49jensonWe might be, when she stops talking
12:43.52dank_work:-)
12:43.57dank_workDave still hasn't been online
12:44.33jensondank_work I texted him to tell him you wanted to talk to him, but he may well be busy
12:44.41jensonor avoiding you lol
12:45.42dank_work:)
12:45.48dank_workWhat did you do to your wrist, babe?
12:46.05jensondank_work: Nothing AFAIK lol, I think it was gluing lol
12:46.35dank_workTescos?
12:46.42dank_workNot even a goodbye? :(
12:51.39dank_workBad highbury :)
12:53.41highburyDonna gave up a couple of weeks ago, me since yesterday afternoon
12:53.52dank_workGood luck :)
12:57.54murbhighbury: and you're going to use your savings on abaco to buy a cdwriter?
13:02.35highburyROTFL
13:02.52SpudUAwayErr, how would I print the time on the command line?
13:02.56highburycd-rw has to wait, more imprtant things
13:02.59SpudUAwayNo, better question!
13:03.03SpudUAway'man -k time' gives me lots of options, how do I reduce these to just the commandline stuff?
13:03.03highburydate
13:03.09SpudUAwayI had to buy a CDWriter last week, £33 quid for an IDE writer, which seems to write at 24 speed.
13:04.11highbury"date" is the command you want SpudUAway
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13:07.45jensonBack
13:07.48dank_workwb
13:08.50skuggjenson, you got internetconnection with your linux-box now?
13:09.05dank_workno - she's using my server
13:09.11skuggah.
13:09.31jensonskugg: lol my linux box is currenltly more usefgul thatn muy win box for once lol
13:09.45skuggjenson, :)
13:10.43jensonAHHH, WTF is wrong with my wrist?
13:11.38jensonskugg: Have you finished your exams now?
13:11.55skuggjenson, yes, my exams are finished. thank $DEITY!
13:12.25jensonawww good skugg
13:14.55jensonI'm gonna go have divver
13:15.02jensonI should be back about 16:15
13:15.05jensondiner
13:15.08jensondinner
13:15.15dank_workSurely lunch?
13:15.23jensonYeah lunch
13:15.25jensondinner whatever
13:15.31jensonByeeeeeeeeeee
13:15.35jensonBBL
13:15.39SpudUAwaynn
13:15.48SpudUAwayOh, no, that's later.
13:15.53SpudUAway;-)
13:16.01jensonlol nn SpudUAway
13:16.13jensoncya
13:58.14zacharybrb
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14:05.33SpudUAwayWhatya want!
14:06.18SpudUAwayAh, an everyday tale of country folk.
14:08.16dank_workWhat's the URL for the youth hostel you booked?
14:11.29SpudUAwayhttp://www.laj.be/en/hostels/brussels_brel.htm
14:12.13SpudUAwayThough www.fosdem.org has a list of other hotels, if you are in your right mind and want to take the hotel route!
14:12.53dank_workI can't be bothered any more. Youth Hostel will probably be good enough
14:14.40SpudUAwayIt'll be good enough, but it won't be a hotel! Think en suite, think tv, think BAR!
14:15.22dank_workThink money.
14:15.38SpudUAwayAh, same boat then.
14:16.22dank_workHow did you book?
14:16.26dank_workIs there a 'book online' thing?
14:16.45TarragonBar - we will all be together somewhere, TV - No time to watch TV, either in bar, watching lecture or asleep, En Suite - good point
14:16.50SpudUAwayIt's the bar bit that only worries me.  What time will I have to be in by, stuff like that.  With the drinking going on until 3am+ I'll miss some of it.
14:18.15SpudUAway'En Suite - good point' or bad point, don't matter, chambermaid will mop..., oh, I see what you mean.
14:18.56SpudUAwayhttp://www.hostelbooking.com/ibnpub/french/index.asp
14:19.33SpudUAwayErr, you can choose English as well, if it helps.
14:20.48dank_workYeah. I saw :)
14:20.53dank_work(well, assumed)
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14:22.33ClyphoxHi all
14:22.41Clyphoxnetbsd definatly owns
14:22.48dank_workHi Clyphox
14:22.51dank_workYes. Yes it does.
14:22.52ClyphoxHeya
14:23.01ClyphoxGot a problem.. (kinda) though..
14:23.32dank_workyeah.....
14:23.42ClyphoxI installed the basic setup without X. now I can't even find it on the portsrc tree..
14:24.02dank_workX would be in the base system, not the ports system
14:24.04ClyphoxI am not in the mood for compiling it by hand at all
14:24.16dank_work:-)
14:24.20Clyphoxwhere/how do I find that?
14:24.29dank_workftp.netbsd.org
14:24.43Clyphoxoff course.. I forgot..
14:24.51Clyphoxlike the bas .tgz's etc.. silly me..
14:24.57Clyphoxat least I got links going now..
14:24.59dank_work:)
14:25.01Clyphoxomw.. thanks
14:25.11dank_workAlways hit the FTP :)
14:25.14ClyphoxDamn it was slow extracting my .tar.gz though
14:25.25Clyphoxtook it over 15min to undo a 14meg file
14:25.34dank_workHeh
14:25.40Clyphoxnot funny imo..
14:25.55ClyphoxThis is a 1900 Athlonm
14:25.56dank_workIt is when it happens to someone else ;-)
14:26.17ClyphoxI hope the smp suport isn't gonna make me suicidal..
14:26.29dank_workNetBSD doesn't have SMP support, does it?
14:26.39Clyphoxbleeding edge..
14:26.42Clyphoxafaik...
14:26.54dank_workHeh.
14:26.55Clyphoxor else I will have to stick to slack..
14:27.03dank_workIt's only a computer. Not worth killing yourself over :)
14:27.54dank_work(to be honest, I prefer OpenBSD to NetBSD, but that's just my own opinion)
14:28.08ClyphoxI lkiked obsd when I used it.
14:28.14Clyphoxer "Liked"
14:28.17dank_work:)
14:28.39Clyphoxbut I've had a much nicer time with netBSD so far. Plus I like supporting the underdogs.
14:28.56dank_work:-)
14:29.04ClyphoxIts more of a streamlined thing I find too..
14:29.16Clyphoxwow..
14:29.20ClyphoxI like :)
14:29.22dank_workWell....a bit
14:29.24dank_work:-)
14:29.29dank_workNice and small, yeah?
14:29.38Clyphoxnah.. I've had slack smaller hehe
14:29.47dank_workheh
14:29.52ClyphoxGot it (compressed) down to 34Meg..
14:29.58dank_work<g>
14:30.01ClyphoxMy own mini-crapless-slack
14:30.26ClyphoxI use it for when I want a quick install..
14:30.31dank_work:-)
14:30.38dank_workSlack is good for that
14:30.53ClyphoxIts just very sane. layout and all
14:31.16ClyphoxA bit annoying sometimes..
14:31.44ClyphoxWish it didn't ship with crap like netscape6 etc..but its still the best
14:32.13dank_workyeah
14:34.06ClyphoxHow do I install the xbase.tgz .. (add_pkg ~/xbase.tgz ?)
14:34.16dank_workI think so
14:34.28dank_workOr tar -xzf xbase.tgz
14:34.41Clyphoxyeah but in the root methinks..
14:34.47dank_workYup
14:36.22ClyphoxWoops!! just rm -rf /usr
14:36.24Clyphox!!
14:36.46Clyphoxshoulda been ./usr
14:36.51dank_work:)
14:36.53Clyphoxheh.. hope it still works..
14:37.51dank_work:)
14:37.51Clyphoxhehe.. seems awk has died..
14:38.29ClyphoxI should burn this..
14:39.06ClyphoxLucky this is just my test install..
14:39.32ClyphoxGlad I got this far. Still not familliar with then environment yet though
14:41.21dank_workYeah
14:43.35Clyphoxyup.. netbsd has had smp support since 7th of Jan.. bleeding edge.. :)
14:43.42ClyphoxThink I'll give it a try..
14:43.48dank_workGood luck :)
14:44.21ClyphoxAs long as the os is Open.. runs X/blackbox/Xmms/Quake3/php-apache-mysql I am a happy fan :)
14:44.40Clyphoxand unix(ish) too hehe
14:45.28ClyphoxOpen?
14:45.38dank_workDarwin (the core) is, Aqua isn't
14:45.58ClyphoxI had this kinda debate with the sales bloke at the Expo last year..
14:46.10ClyphoxI was impressed but I don't have the money..
14:46.20ClyphoxWhat is the liscense like?
14:46.27dank_workNo idea.
14:47.13Clyphoxwell this is why I feel sorry for the bsd crowd..
14:47.21dank_workWhy?
14:47.29ClyphoxGNU ppl can take BSD code and use it in their GNU programs
14:47.31dank_workIt's their choice what licence they want to use
14:47.47ClyphoxBut BSD ppl can't take GNU code and use it in their BSD code without converting to GNU
14:48.26dank_workWell, that's the licence. That's life.
14:48.31ClyphoxIts just a little un-fair.. Way better than proprietry still...
14:48.49dank_workThat's just GNU being unfair then :)
14:48.58ClyphoxI know..
14:49.23ClyphoxIts just that athough gnu is wonderfull coders don't fully understand what the effects know..
14:49.34dank_workyeah
14:49.46Clyphoxmaybe I should make a website.. dedicated to lisences
14:49.58Clyphoxwith forums/descriptions etc..
14:50.10dank_workIf you're really bored :)
14:50.13Clyphoxwould be coll if ppl used it for refrence..
14:50.29Clyphoxyeah.. I'm not dedicated enough.. just another pip-dream
14:50.33Clyphoxer pipe-dream
14:50.34dank_work:-)
14:52.14StuartC_fsf website details quite a lot. tho you may consider some of the comments bias, and it doesn't have a forum as you suggest :)
14:52.53Clyphoxcool..
14:52.55StuartC_http://www.fsf.org/licenses/license-list.html and related pages
15:08.54ClyphoxGtg.. boss..
15:08.58dank_work:)
15:09.01Clyphoxlurking around.. :(
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15:09.43dank_workah
15:09.46dank_workhi skugg_
15:09.49ClyphoxI think I will quite happily use O/N BSD for my servers now... proberbly Obsd for fws..
15:09.55Clyphoxanyhow.. gtg.. cya..
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15:15.41dank_workHi Axel, zimm
15:15.49Axelhi
15:15.54dank_work:)
15:15.56dank_workSleepIRC
15:16.01zimmaye
15:16.07Axelw00t?
15:16.36zimmbrb coffee , foodage , etc ..
15:16.53Axelbah - irc.quakenet.org is down.. again
15:17.36dank_workThanks Axel :)
15:17.40zimmw00h000
15:17.41Axelnp
15:17.43zimmanyway , brb
15:17.49Axel<cookie-in-tea-dip>
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15:33.32dank_workwb
15:34.08dank_workYou're a gluttong for punishment, you are
15:34.15zimm:)
15:37.09zimmwho do you work for anyway dank_work ?
15:37.22dank_workCauseway Technologies (www.causeway-tech.com)
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15:44.44zimmhmm , dank_work , ive just read that site for like 5 minutes ..
15:44.52zimmwhat do they do ?
15:44.56dank_workHeh :)
15:45.04dank_workProvide software to the construction industry
15:45.26zimmcan builders use PC's ?
15:45.43dank_workThe manglement can a bit
15:47.40zimmi still dont quite see the point of it .. but hey as long as its profitable ..
15:47.47dank_workyeah
15:47.53zimmbrb
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15:51.08zimmwoohoo , kmail actually works now !
15:55.07Axeldan, zimm: may i throw yet another *silly* question in your relative direction?
15:55.22zimmcarry on ..
15:55.25Axelthx
15:55.37Axeli'm trying to add a smb share to my fstab list
15:56.11Axelis this correct: -> smb://[ip]/[share] /[mountpoint] defaults,umask 000 0 0
15:56.43Axellike: smb://192.168.0.3/www /web defaults,umask=000 0 0
15:57.35zimmAxel: sorry man , cant help with that one .. dont use smb
15:57.58Axel:(
15:59.57TarragonThought it would be   smb://192.168.0.3/www /web noauto,user,workgoup=WEB 0 0
16:00.21Axelhmmm
16:01.58TarragonThe /web is the mount point and a user would need user in mstab to unmount it I think
16:02.29Axelcheers
16:05.00Axelactually, this one works -> //192.168.0.3/www   /web   smbfs   user,exec,rw,gid=axel,uid=axel,username=axel,password=mother
16:05.08Axel=)
16:05.48dank_workErr.
16:05.56dank_workYeah. What you said last
16:06.12Axelhm?
16:06.21dank_work"this one works"
16:06.26Axelyep
16:06.30Axelthat's what i said
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16:12.09dank_workwb zimm
16:13.04zimmheh ,
16:13.33zimmwho was it who was looking for idsoftware games downloads ?
16:14.02zimmftp://mirrors.xmission.com/idsoftware
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16:20.01dank_workHey babe
16:20.14jensonhey babe
16:21.03dank_workOh go on. Say it. (at least on /msg)
16:24.24zimmhey jenson
16:24.54jensonHey zimm
16:42.48zacharybrb
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16:43.35jensonhey formi
16:43.47dank_workHi formi
16:44.18jensonHow are you formi?
16:44.31formihello
16:45.01formiI require somebody with a slight idea of PHP
16:45.09dank_workI have a very slight idea
16:45.32jensonCan't help ya therte formi
16:52.29zimmwhat song ?
16:52.40jensonSarah Fimm - Sexual Animals
16:52.55jensonhttp://www.mp3.com/sarahfimm
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16:53.32jensonwb zachary
16:53.39zacharyty jenson
16:58.20zimmjenson:  you fancy dcc'ing that track ? i cant be assed signing up for mp3.com ..
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16:58.57dank_workHi Davilion
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17:03.55dank_workwb babe
17:04.12Davilionhi dank_work
17:04.13jensonzimm: Dunnp how to dcc of BitchX, plus I dont think I can do it whilest I'm sshing in anyway
17:04.19jensonhey Davilion
17:04.21jensonty dank_work
17:04.23Davilionhi jenson
17:04.25zimmjenson: np .. :)
17:04.39Daviliongot a nice email from a collegue, well it wasnt nice, he was freaking out, but it made me feel better
17:04.55jensonzimm: But remind me tonight when hopefully I'll have my computer sorted then I can
17:04.55dank_workThat's just cruel
17:05.25Daviliondank_work: it was in reference to leeds uni, im really glad other people think they are idiots, i was beginning to think it was just me who thought that.
17:05.31zimmjenson: ok .. ,, the slack install is coming along then ?
17:05.48dank_workAh right.
17:06.01jensonzimm: Nah, but I oughta at least sort Win
17:06.26dank_workThis to do with your colleague who keeps reconfiguring your systems?
17:07.08zimmjenson: ahh ok ..
17:07.35jensonzimm good idea
17:07.39dank_workNo.
17:07.43zimmlol
17:07.50dank_workDon't pollute my girlfriend
17:07.59zimmroflmao
17:08.13zimmnice choice of words dank_work
17:08.18Daviliondank_work: no, its due to negative association with their central it services, like you tell them how to run a bit of software and they do the exact oposite
17:08.38Davilionbut debian is so nice
17:08.50dank_workDavilion: So just like a lot of IT departments, then?
17:09.14Davilionyeah, only these guys are really bad
17:09.48dank_workHeh
17:10.46Davilionanybody suggest a good solution to sisters who break cd's?
17:11.08zimmcut hteir feet off ?
17:11.13jensonDavilion: Yeah, girlfriends that break ciomputers
17:11.32Davilionzimm: yeah thats an option
17:11.36Davilionbut my parents wouldnt be happy with that
17:11.46Davilioni was thinking more like sending her off in a box to china or something
17:11.46zimmhmm , would make a bit of a mess
17:12.09Davilionyeah i like my carpets as they are
17:12.20jensoneither
17:13.32Davilioni tihnk i'll just plaster her cd player with cheap superglue (You know the stuff that doesnt stick to anything except skin, to which it bonds instantly)
17:14.10jensonDavilion: Good idea, remind me not to erm, come near you when you have glue
17:14.27Davilionheh
17:15.12dank_workYou could just run copies of your CDs
17:15.37dank_workOh?
17:15.46Davilioni normally do, in fact the firstr thing i normally do is rip them, then burn a copy for the car and put the original somewhere safe
17:15.49jensonOr rather innocent comment that got twistedd lol
17:15.54dank_work:)
17:16.11Davilionexcept my somewhere safe aint so safe now she's found my cd cupboard :((
17:16.17dank_workHehe
17:16.35Davilionat least 30 of my cd's are now not in their boxes, probably scratched to death by now.
17:16.43jensonDavilion: Feel free to keep your CDs here :D
17:16.45Daviliontheres a whole section missing from my collection
17:16.53Davilionshe hasnt even looked at the titles, just taken them all
17:16.57dank_workHehe
17:17.56Davilionthankfully Stacy has offered to take me out and give me coffee and chinese food before my sister gets home.
17:18.12jensonyay
17:18.15skugg_dank_work, who is this? cat? dog? little sister?
17:18.24dank_workThat's better
17:18.34dank_workskugg_: Eh?
17:18.39jensonhey skugg
17:18.50skuggdank_work, tab-complete bug... was meant to be Davilion  :)
17:18.58skugghi by the way
17:19.02dank_work:)
17:19.03dank_workhi
17:19.06skuggto all of you :)
17:19.35jensonWhere'd zimm go?
17:20.09Davilionskugg: sister
17:20.11skuggdank_work, is that right?
17:20.25dank_workWell, you can either wave or particle
17:20.35Davilion:)
17:20.41skuggdank_work, i see. thankfully my sibling doesn't like my music, so i get to keep my cds :P
17:20.52dank_workErr. Thanks for that image, Dave
17:20.56skuggdank_work, ah.
17:21.12Davilionjenson: you were right
17:21.20jensonhehehehe
17:21.20Davilionthis is what started my whole big rant off
17:21.23skugg:)
17:21.35dank_work:-)
17:21.35Davilioni've been wandering around in my socks for about 30 minutes
17:21.46jensonSocks and boxers?
17:22.01Davilioni was getting changed, when i thought to myself, 'hmm, isnt it a shame joe strummer's dead. Ahah, why not put on some clash'
17:22.23jensonnice song
17:22.23Davilionso i looked in my cd cupboard and went 'HOLY SHIT IVE BEEN FUCKING ROBBED AGAIN' then i remember i was at my parents, and that my sister lived here
17:22.25jensondirty lol
17:22.35skuggfrom inside box
17:22.44skuggthat looks wrong by the way :P
17:22.45Davilionso i went up stairs (Im home alone) and went into my sisters room to see a big long pile of my cd's all everywhere
17:22.46dank_workBut that spoils the experiment
17:22.47Davilionthen i went mental
17:23.04skuggDavilion, "tries to"
17:23.11skuggs,Davilion ,dank_work ,
17:23.43Davilionim perfectly calm (If you dont count the ball of terrible rage)
17:24.21jensonAhhhh 3 /msgs at once
17:24.24jensonmake that 5
17:24.24jensonlol
17:24.29dank_workAren't you lucky
17:24.29jenson6
17:24.31jensonslow down lol
17:25.06skuggdank_work, you're not alone...
17:26.00skuggit's okay, really, since I'm trying to break lose and go and do some work :)
17:26.04dank_work:-)
17:26.07dank_workibot lart Davilion
17:26.11jensonBugger off skugg  :D
17:26.36zimmibot insult dank_work
17:26.37skuggyeah yeah, that's what they all say :D
17:26.43dank_workibot insult zimm
17:26.55Davilionheh
17:27.06skuggho-hum ... so there's a difference between insult and lart now?
17:27.13jensonAsk Dave > about what he's been reading lol
17:27.22dank_workDavilion: What have you been reading?
17:27.26Davilioni heard it on the radio actually
17:27.33dank_workWhat is it?
17:27.36jensonTYhats whaty i meant
17:27.38jensonlol
17:27.40Davilionlike viagra, only not.
17:27.44dank_workEh?
17:27.48zimmeh >?#
17:27.51Davilionlasts longer or something.
17:27.56dank_workAh right.
17:28.12skuggDavilion, viagra on steroids?
17:28.47Davilionskugg: yeah pretty much
17:29.21skuggI saw something about that the other day -> http://www.normalnofobia.com/nnf_skladiste/pages/Never%20mix%20viagra%20with%20steroids.htm
17:30.52Davilionskugg: lmfao
17:31.36jensonMy mother has just totally jammed paper in a printer lol
17:31.48dank_workheh
17:31.59jensonAt least she thinks she has, she cant see it
17:32.03Davilionheh
17:32.05jensonasnd neither could i lol
17:32.08Davilionthe illusive paper jam that isnt there
17:32.11Davilioni remember those
17:33.25jensonBRB
17:34.15Davilionright i need to head off.
17:34.23Davilionelse i'll get stuck in the snow
17:34.23Davilionbbl
17:34.27skuggme too. need to code some more.
17:34.34skuggbye people
17:37.09zimmnot in public dank_work
17:37.11zimmplease
17:37.18dank_workShe's the exhibitionist :)
17:37.37dank_workAnyway, poking is just sticking a finger into someone's side to get their attention
17:37.44zimmahh ,,
17:37.47jensonback
17:37.49dank_workIf you insist on giving it dirty connotations, that's your problem :)
17:37.52dank_workwb babe
17:38.08dank_workBah.
17:38.11zimmlol
17:38.12dank_workThat was rude.
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17:38.37dank_workwb babe
17:38.43jensonty babe
17:38.45dank_work:)
17:44.29Axeldoes anyone know the difference between emacs and emacs21-x ?
17:44.45dank_work-x has X support?
17:44.54Axelhmm
17:46.09jenson/query
17:46.25jensonlol
17:56.53jensonTime to go
17:56.55jensonSee ya guys
17:56.58dank_work:-(
17:57.06zimmlaters jenson
17:57.12jensoncya zimm
17:57.13dank_workBye J
17:59.15jensonBye all
18:00.09dank_workHum
18:01.08zimmexcellent,,  socks located less than 2 feet away
18:01.22dank_workPresumably not on your feet?
18:01.29zimmlol
18:01.48zimmim not tall , but i aint that short
18:02.16dank_workMy socks are currently about 4.5 feet away from my head
18:03.12dank_workYes.
18:03.23dank_workAnd what's wrong with being short, anyway? Jenson's short. :)
18:03.33zimmi know ,
18:03.43zimmbut she's a girl , she's allowed to be short
18:03.48dank_workHehehe :)
18:04.11dank_workI'm about 5'11"
18:04.20dank_workSo bang on average, pretty much
18:05.02zimmany pics of you online ?
18:05.25dank_workYeah.
18:05.32dank_workJust the head, or the whole body?
18:05.37zimmwhatever
18:05.48dank_workhttp://eco.li/dan.shtml
18:05.59dank_work(that's probably about the best picture of me around)
18:06.15dank_workOtherwise, if you dig around http://eco.li/photos/ then there's some others
18:07.07zimmjesus , you look like you've a head full of opiates
18:07.09zimmlol
18:07.18dank_workHehe :) I've never done drugs.
18:07.30zimmi know , thats why its funny
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20:01.44*** topic/#gllug is GLLUG - Greater London Linux User Group, http://gllug.org.uk [InstallFest 1-Mar-2003, Meeting - 12-April-2003]
20:09.34*** join/#gllug new2unix (~new2unix@ACB4B009.ipt.aol.com)
20:10.07new2unixits good to be back.
20:10.40new2unixi know you all missed me. Now where do i begin?
20:12.51Stephenby switching ISP?
20:13.09Stephensorry ;)
20:14.00new2unixDo they owe you money? What do you have against them?
20:15.08zacharyAOL sucks, slow and do not provide support for Linux. Not to mention dodgy support and service.
20:16.14Stephenand i hate their fscking adverts and 'free' CDs
20:16.50formithey are going downhill so who cares
20:17.32new2unix"AOL Sucks" True. "AOL is Slow" Just as slow as the others. "AOL does not provide support for Linux" Very few ISP's openly admit to supporting *nix. Support is good enough for those who call. I dont. I bin their CD's and DO NOT use their email account or content.
20:18.38Stephen'Just as slow as the others' my ISP isn't slow at all ;)
20:19.22Stephenat least when the rest of the students aren't downloading pr0n it's not
20:19.27Stephen:p
20:19.47zacharyNo, AOL is slow compared to every ISP that I've seen. My ISP doesn't officially support Linux but at least it can be done.
20:20.14formithe worst on the uk is freenetname
20:20.35Stephenoh well, at the end of the day, you pays your money and you takes your choice
20:21.04formii kind of use blueyonder
20:21.18new2unixI have partially succeeded in installing AOL on debian. OK so it didnt work completely but that is probably cos i lack patience in that area of things :)
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20:21.41formias a ssh-tunnel carrier
20:24.19new2unixOk. the reason why i am still with AOL after all these years is cos i cant be bothered to fork out exrtra cash to get a hardware modem. I have 3 pci modems that are all winmodems that dont work with the linux drivers provided on google etc. And AOL dont cut me off after extensive time online. Spending 118 minutes online is not uncommon.
20:25.16formiI pay £12 and spend 300+ hours a month,
20:28.45new2unixwhat isp?
20:28.58formiblueyonder
20:29.02formitelewest
20:29.04new2unixdialup?
20:29.53new2unixOh. another reason i like AOL is that i am automatically asumed a newb and so get away with asking utterly stupid questions on irc :D
20:30.37formiobviously
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20:39.27zacharybbl
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20:44.55new2unixsorry. your point was? so my modem is among the many thousand vulnerable to that attack. and you succeeded in kicking me off. now what? why such childish behaviour, whoever you are?
20:46.23new2unixto think that i was in the middle of something very important wha=en my box rebooted. yesh. anyways... best you remain in the shadows of the internet.
20:47.20Stephennew2unix: i wouldn't have thought anyone in here would do such a thing
20:48.11formiwho kicked you?
20:49.02new2unixneither do i but... this is the first time i've been on irc in about 8months. i havent had this happen to me in about that long. anyways... its all good. i guess thats what goes with admitting to using a shitty isp + dialup + windows. :D
20:50.05forminew2unix: stop being paranoid
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20:52.08new2unixlol. cant help it. my very old debain laptop has an uptime of 195days.  this pc is struggling to compete. but something always happens to cause it to reboot. hmmm. :)
20:53.44formii need to go, see you in a while
20:53.52new2unixseeya.
20:56.05new2unixfolks. i have a PII350 and a PIII450 i recently purchased from work. not sure why i bout them. any suggestion on what to use them for? a standalone firewall is a bit excessive for my needs at the moment. and i want to play about with them before i decide to donate them or sell them off.
20:57.03zimmput distcc on them and use them as a compile farm !
20:57.48new2unixthat would be good if i was a programmer. i'm new2unix remember. :p
20:59.09zimmin that case , install different distro's on every box you have and get to know them all intimatly
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21:01.35new2unixgood idea. i'm kinda confident with debian. and ive only just installed FreeBSD on another. perhaps its time i tried Redhat. or even Solaris for intel. Anybody got access to solaris 9?
21:02.50zimmdebian is good
21:04.35new2unixi'm trying to get to grips with Free. not as easy as Debian. Slack was incredibly easy to install considering the bad press or NO press it has been getting.
21:10.45zimmive never tried slack ..
21:11.11zimmwent mandrake , redhat , lycoris , libranet , debian ,, and stuck with debian
21:12.14new2unixi went Redhat, SuSE, Debian, slackware, debian, knoppix and a bit of FreeBSD
21:12.24new2unixnow back to debian.
21:12.42new2unixoh and windows inbetween.  lol
21:15.13new2unixgotta go. seeya'll on the 1st
21:15.14zimmhehe
21:15.19zimmlaters
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21:32.42zacharyI think my printer is about to die.
21:33.31zimm:-(
21:39.15zacharygood night, I'm off to bed.
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21:41.30zimmhey cupis
21:42.02cupishey zimm
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21:50.01cupiswb zimm
21:50.08zimm:)
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21:55.07zimmwb Jenson
21:55.10cupisevening J
21:55.23Jensonty zimm
21:55.25Jensonhey cupis
21:57.01cupisJenson: are you any calmer this evening, Jenson?
21:57.48Jensoncupis: I'm not stressed
21:57.52JensonJust sleepy
21:57.57Jensonand a litle unhappy
21:58.00JensonBut I'm o
21:58.00cupisJenson: good
21:58.01Jensonk
21:58.03Jensonok
21:58.04Jensonlol
21:58.10JensonHow are you?
21:58.30cupisyou're unhappy? I'm fine, thank you.
21:58.58JensonI'm unhappy most of the time so nothing new there
22:00.14cupisonly most of the time? When are you not unhappy?
22:00.44Jensoncupis: When I'm with Dan, and when I'm asleep.
22:01.00JensonAlthough I was crying when Dan was here on Saturday, my fault again.
22:01.22cupisJenson: I recommend you go to sleep.
22:01.47JensonDan qill be here about 11
22:01.49cupisJenson: I thought it was traditional for the male to get the blame?
22:02.01JensonJst been on the phone to him for an hour and a half
22:02.18cupisJenson: think you'll still be awake then?
22:02.30JensonNo cupis I was hurting him by flirting with other members of the channel, I saew how much I was hurting him, and got all fucked you about it
22:02.34JensonI might be awake
22:02.35Jensonlol
22:03.23cupisJenson: maybe you shuoldn't flirt with outher member of the channel (or other people in general, for that matter [in front of Dan?])
22:06.34JensonTrue
22:06.39JensonAxel: BBC out where you are too
22:06.41Axelis anyone else lacking BBC tonight?
22:06.42JensonWe got it here
22:06.44JensonDan is
22:06.57Axelyeah, BBC1 for 15min, BBC2 is still offline
22:07.02AxelSW15
22:07.04Axelgrml
22:07.09JensonWe had that problem a couple of weeks back
22:07.28Axeli missed an important quarter of RedCap and can't watch Hapiness... *whinge*
22:07.51Axelwell, at least it's not just me ;p
22:08.00JensonI forgot to watch Holby City lol
22:08.03cupisI have BBC1, not BBC2 (SM3)
22:08.17JensonAFAIK we still have both
22:08.19JensonI'll look
22:08.21Axelcupis: sm3?
22:08.59Axelgreat, and now evolution is messing about...
22:09.28Axelcan't these ppl write stable code? at least it could shut down without breaking things...
22:09.33Axel</rant>
22:09.35JensonWe've got all 5 channels
22:09.35cupisAxel: postcode Sutton, Surrey
22:09.42AxelJenson: luck girl
22:09.47Axelcupis: ah :)
22:09.48JensonI'm in CO10
22:10.08Axelhow can they possible achieve a near system wide failure?
22:10.15Jenson(Colchester area)
22:11.26Axelat least BTs ADSL exchanges <coughcough> have better uptimes than the Beep
22:11.46Axelcu
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22:12.13Davilionevening all
22:12.57cupisevening Davilion
22:13.18cupisvindicated?
22:13.19Davilionhi cupis
22:13.21Davilionhows it going?
22:13.48Davilionyeah, my sister fucked half my cd collection today, so i got to be very 'matter of fact' and convey my deepest bitterness to her
22:14.15Daviliondont think its going to stop the cd scratching but i feel i've conveyed my pissedoffness
22:14.20Davilioni hope my cd collection is the only tihng im remotely anal about
22:14.35cupisDavilion: and you fell better for it?
22:14.56Davilionnot really, well yes, i dont like being stern
22:14.58Davilionits just not me.
22:14.58cupisDavilion: it's going okay, thanks
22:15.30Davilioni think my camera, and my music, anything else doesnt matter, but if my house was burning down, i'd run in and grab my photo albums and my music collection.
22:16.16cupishow did she damage your CD's? Dare I ask?
22:16.26Davilionthis is going to sound so anal....
22:16.54Davilionbut generally by just not taking care of them, she took about 40 or so of them and just littered them around her room, so they are all scratched, and the inlay card thingies are all missing etc etc etc
22:18.00Davilioni buy so much music, i normally just copy it as soon as i buy it, and stuff it in the cupboard so its safe, and it was until my sister found the cupboard.
22:19.13cupisDavilion: buy a lock?
22:19.48Davilioncupis: i download more than i buy.
22:19.55Davilioni tend to download, then buy.
22:20.03Davilionbut i buy a lot of stuff you just can't get anywhere else, like unsigned stuff
22:20.26cupisI tend to use my 'wireless' :)
22:20.52Davilionahh.
22:21.02Davilioni do that too, only via the web, if that makes sense.
22:21.36cupisof course
22:23.46cupisnote to self - do not gulp when you are holding screws in your mouth
22:23.57Davilionheh, what you building?
22:24.02Davilionoh you mean computer case screw?
22:24.36cupisyeah
22:24.42cupisupgrading someones computer a little
22:26.27Davilioncool.
22:27.17DavilionI've got that to look forward to later, i think were upgrading a VA-linux cluster for one of our customers, that should provide some entertainment
22:27.17Davilionibot seen Jenson
22:27.17jenson is currently on #gllug (32m 27s).  Has said a total of 29 messages.  Is idling for 17m 2s
22:27.31JensonI'm on the phone Dave
22:27.40Davilionahh ok.
22:27.45Davilionwondered why it was so quiet.
22:27.51Jensonlol
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22:34.04Jensonhey formi
22:34.12formiallo
22:34.53cupis'ello formi
22:35.34Jensonzimm: I wouldn't have guessed
22:35.44zimmlol
22:36.46cupisJenson: what?
22:36.47Jensonlol
22:36.56JensonThat the Scottish accent is well sexy on guys :)
22:37.08Davilionheh
22:37.13zimmheh
22:37.16Davilionwhat brings you to that conclusion?
22:37.44JensonDavilion: The fact that you and zimm have Scottish accents :D
22:37.53Davilioni dont rate it myself, although i will lay it on pretty thick when im abroad to try it out so to speak
22:38.56Davilioni dont, i think it gets noticably wavey when im really tense or nervous
22:39.07JensonEveryone does lol
22:39.39murbwavey?
22:39.46Jensonhi murb
22:40.01Davilionshakey i guess
22:42.49JensonBRB - rabbit feeding time :D
22:43.38formitricky question comming up
22:44.05formiyou have a machine plugged to a hub, you don't know the ip address
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22:44.24Davilionhi dankolb
22:44.37dankolbHey all
22:44.41dankolbHi Dave
22:44.46cupisevening dankolb
22:44.52formiany way of finding it out? without ping the whole load of private range ip
22:45.11zimmhey dankolb
22:45.14cupisformi: log into the machine and use ifconfig?
22:45.18cupislol
22:45.19dankolbHey zimm
22:45.48formiwhat if you can't log in?
22:45.55cupis22:42:03 <Jenson>        BRB - rabbit feeding time :D
22:45.58dankolbAhh :)
22:46.16cupisformi: must the machine stay online? or are you physically unable to login?
22:46.39zimmformi: cant you ssh to the hostname rather than the ip ?
22:46.43formithe machine is a sparc running solaris, no keyboard, that's all i know
22:46.57Daviliondankolb: she's feeding her rabbit
22:47.09dankolbYeah )
22:47.10dankolb:)
22:47.11formii tried the serial trick but didn't work
22:47.16cupisformi: what is it doing on the network? file serving? etc
22:47.25formithe machine is a sparc running solaris, no keyboard, that's all i know
22:47.36formiALL I KNOW
22:47.55cupisformi: nmap
22:48.26cupissee what machines answer, and what open posts/servers they have?
22:48.27formii don't know the ip number
22:48.36Jensonback
22:48.45cupisformi: nmap the subnet
22:48.57JensonI think the worst part of feeding the rabbit is I had to ask my mum where the carrots were :D
22:49.03formii don't know the subnet
22:49.29Jensonzimm: I encouraged you into that track
22:49.30cupiswhat is your entry point onto it's network?
22:49.36zimmJenson:  you did indeed .
22:50.05dankolbThanks both
22:50.14TarragonConnect the sparc with a crossover and nmap everything overnight
22:50.36formii thought about that
22:50.47formiproblem i can't find my crossover
22:51.06cupisformi: man nmap: -PI    This  option  uses  a  true ping (ICMP echo request) packet.  It finds hosts that are up...
22:51.20TarragonDo you have a hub?
22:51.34formiyes
22:52.51cupis22:48:37 <cupis> what is your entry point onto it's network?
22:55.33JensonBRB - Driver install forcing reboot
22:55.38dankolbHeh
22:55.50dankolbThe Wonderful World of Windows
22:56.17zimmhehe ,,,
22:59.20dankolbSounds painful ;-)
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23:10.47Davilionnothing painful at all
23:10.54dankolb:)
23:10.55Davilionunless of course it was a grahame'd box
23:11.01Davilionwhats a weeble?
23:11.08dankolbYeah - I'm sure you'd enjoy being modprobed
23:11.12Davilionheh
23:11.15zimmweeble >> website
23:11.22Davilioni had a shock today.
23:11.32zimmelectric ?
23:12.03Davilioni thought i was totally shagged, the system didnt have a network card with the right driver for it, and there was no fat support in the kernel for floppy disks to copy one to
23:12.16Davilionluckily i had the source and could make the 2.4.19 dos module
23:12.23Davilioni swear img oing to lart grahame so bad when i see him
23:12.23dankolb:)
23:13.53Davilioni was expecting to modprobe vfat and get a horrible error like 'loadable module support not compiled into kernel'
23:13.56Davilionwhich is the kind of thing he does
23:13.59dankolb:-)
23:14.01dankolbThat's just evil
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23:15.18stephenyeah, vfat filesystems are evil
23:15.32stepheneven though i still use them
23:15.34dankolbwb babe
23:15.38JensonIs DirectX a MS product?
23:15.43dankolbYes
23:15.45zimmyes]
23:16.00JensonThat's where I'll find it then
23:16.20dankolbYes
23:16.42JensonI found it now :)
23:16.55JensonI thought DirectX was common to all OSs lol
23:16.59Jensonty dankolb
23:17.07dankolbHeh
23:17.08dankolb:)
23:21.09dankolbhi Spud
23:21.29SpudULikeWatchya all. So Dan, you all booked up?
23:21.42Jensonhey SpudULike
23:21.54dankolbErr...
23:22.03SpudULikeHey J!
23:22.07Jensonzimm: What you think of that track i told you?
23:22.19zimmJenson:  its funny
23:22.28JensonIt's dirty too
23:22.30SpudULikeDan: Cool, last minute, I like your style!
23:22.32zimmwell ,
23:22.35dankolbHeh :)
23:22.36zimmyes ,, that too
23:22.49JensonI dont have it on CD
23:23.33Stephenbut a disorganised life is so much more fun
23:23.45dankolbTrue
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23:24.05JensonFor example, out of interest how long does it take you guys to d/l about 10MB?
23:24.08Davilionhmm, i might be able to go to fosdem afterall i need to get my arse into gear methinks
23:24.08dankolbwb skugg
23:24.14Davilionabout 20 seconds.
23:24.15dankolbDavilion: Well, hurry up
23:24.24skuggdankolb, hi.
23:24.25zimmJenson:  10 minutes here .. 128k :-(
23:24.27dankolbDavilion: I'll be staying in a youth hostel
23:24.36skuggmy screen session went tits-up
23:24.39dankolbDavilion: So if you want me to book for you, let me know
23:24.46Jensonzimm: I've got 42mins here lol
23:24.51Stephen10 seconds on a good day
23:24.55cupisJenson: 40-45 mins
23:25.10Jensoncupis: You're on the same dialup as me :P
23:25.30Daviliondankolb: i'll let you know, i need to consider my holiday options for the next month or so
23:25.34Jensonzimm: 10 mins would be nice as opposed to 42.
23:25.35skuggah well. good night people.
23:25.39skuggoff to bed now
23:25.48dankolbDavilion: Ahh....I'd ideally need to know tomorrow lunchtime, though
23:26.09Jensonbye skugg
23:26.12dankolbnight skugg
23:26.14Davilionin that case, dont worry about it. thanks for the offer though
23:26.25Davilioni need to wait till after negotiations for next year are completed
23:26.33dankolbDavilion: Ah, okay. Well, if you still want to book yourself, Spud has the URL - there's still spaces
23:26.42Davilioncool.
23:28.44Davilionas i said i need to work out what i want to do holiday wise
23:28.50Davilionim going away for >5 weeks in the summer
23:28.53Davilionand dont have any sapre days as such
23:28.57Davilionbut i was hoping for a weekend away in feb
23:29.21dankolbAh
23:29.27dankolbWell, you'd have to pretty much take Friday off
23:29.43JensonOr bunk work
23:29.44Davilionyeah
23:29.44skugg_
23:30.04Davilioni can take days off, its jsut the more days i take off the less holiday days i can take later
23:30.05JensonSays she who didnt even bunk school
23:30.12dankolbGood girl.
23:30.16JensonNot until the stress set in anyway
23:30.19dankolb:(
23:30.21JensonThen i thought fuck iy
23:30.29JensonBut I hardly missed anything
23:31.51JensonI need to install DirectX
23:32.05dankolbOkay. How long will that take?
23:32.06SpudULikeDavilion: Of course, if you just want to do the lecture bit of Fosdem, and not all that unsightly beer drinking nonsense, you can cram it into a weekend.  I'm on the Coach out of London Victoria 10pm Friday, back 6am Monday.
23:32.38DavilionSpudULike: i'd be going for the drinking too
23:32.46Davilionelse it would just be like working a weekend
23:33.04dankolbDavilion: The youth hostel won't cost much
23:33.23Davilioni know, its not the money, its simply making sure everythings kosher at work.
23:33.34Davilionif i leave, the workload goes berzerk when i get back
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23:33.57dankolbIt's only one day, Dave
23:34.02JensonDavilion: Leave it to the users :P
23:34.11cupis_re
23:34.17Daviliondankolb: the last time i took a day off was a nightmare
23:34.20Davilioneverythingh fell apart lol
23:34.51dankolbDavilion: Heh...
23:34.56dankolbThen you need a break :)
23:35.22Daviliondankolb:  i know but if im to take a break i need a few weeks lol
23:35.28Davilionelse i just have to do the work when i get back
23:35.31dankolbHeh
23:35.33Davilionif i go away for a month then somebody else has to do it
23:35.54dankolbAll the problems go away.
23:36.00dankolbthe magic pixies take care of them
23:36.03Davilionexactly
23:36.22JensonWhat can I releive you 2 of today? :P
23:36.32dankolbYou're dirty, babe.
23:36.38dankolbThis is being logged
23:36.44JensonAm not
23:36.46Jensonand I know
23:37.02DavilionJenson: i have a stack of users to hit, you could write hte 'support rejection emails' for me
23:37.05Davilionmmm beer
23:37.22JensonSee, Davilion isn't dirty, are you hon?
23:38.54Davilionim not dirty, my mind is very cl.. cle..... cle..... Inn... I. Irnnnnchnt
23:39.02dankolb:-)
23:39.09JensonInnocent?
23:39.23dankolbAbout as innocent as yours, babe.
23:39.48Davilionhe
23:39.48Jensoncupis: I've done that, twice, and I think i fried the mobo whilst trying to change the RAM
23:39.48Davilionh
23:40.21Jensondankolb: Me and Davilion are innocent as, erm, Bill Gates.
23:40.31cupisJenson: the machine boots, but the HD I just installed is not found by the BIOS. Duh. Probably should have tested the HD first.
23:40.37dankolbJenson: Don't discount me
23:41.27Jensoncupis: Yeah mine was like that, then it didnt do anything, saw the processor was loose, then it worked for a few mins, now it doesnt do anything again and the proccessor isnt loose
23:41.50dankolbzimm: I think you've answered that yourself
23:41.58JensonYeah one word
23:42.02JensonDebian
23:42.34Jensondankolb: You providing the soap :)
23:42.42cupiszimm: they were halfway through the gentoo install in only 4 hours? must have been using the binaries...
23:42.42dankolbYou know it :)
23:42.46zimmdankolb: c'mon surely debian makes more sense than gentoo
23:42.54dankolbDebian never makes sense.
23:42.55zimmfor a n00b
23:43.14Davilionbut then again, im scottish.
23:43.18dankolbExactly.
23:43.25dankolbAnd Scots are weird :)
23:43.27Jensonand zimm has a scottish accent
23:43.41cupisI am not Scottish
23:43.46Jensoncupis: What accent you got?
23:43.56dankolbCivilisation stop north of Watford Gap, anyway, as we all know
23:44.13Jensonlol dankolb
23:44.17cupishmm, well I was brought up in Stratford/East Ham
23:44.22Daviliondankolb: i agree, although i would argue it does start again, briefly when you hit the a702 :P
23:44.28dankolb:-)
23:44.32zimmlol
23:44.34Jensondankolb: Ah, but Scottish is nicer :P
23:44.41dankolbJenson: No it's not :)
23:44.46dankolbYou know you can't resist mine
23:44.59dankolb:)
23:45.14cupisJenson: but it was?
23:45.21Jensonit was simply
23:45.27Jenson'Prime Scottish Meat'
23:45.29Jensonlol
23:45.33zimmoh dear
23:45.34dankolb:)
23:45.49Davilionlol.
23:45.52Jensonzimm: I know lol
23:45.52cupisanybody want a cheep 20Gb hard disk? sold as seen.
23:46.06Jensoncupis: Does it work :P
23:46.07Davilioncupis, does it work as its designed?
23:46.07Stephencupis: how much?
23:46.08zimmcupis: 50p ?
23:46.11dankolbDavilion: Put it away!
23:46.14Davilionlol
23:46.16cupisJenson: um...
23:46.22dankolbWe don't need that hanging over the channel, thank you.
23:46.26dankolbThat's to do in private
23:46.32cupiszimm: no, I couldn't do that to you
23:46.33zimmif at all
23:46.33Jensoncupis: I don't want your hardware if it doesnt work.....
23:46.50zimmcupis: i need a new paper weight ..
23:46.55cupisJenson: uh huh
23:47.19cupisit's not even my disk, but I feel like throughing it out a window
23:47.37dankolbIggy pop? Sounds painful
23:47.51Jensoniggy pop is weird
23:48.44dankolbNo-one reads the logs
23:48.47Jensoni did find it down the back of the CD storer
23:49.10dankolbWell, okay.
23:49.16dankolbJenson is the only one who does
23:49.22dankolbAnd seeing as she's here, I don't care :)
23:49.33Jenson:)
23:51.30Daviliondankolb: my vinyl copy of raw power is scratched :((
23:51.40dankolbAwww :(
23:51.48dankolbThat really sucks
23:52.11Davilionyeah
23:52.13Davilionim gutted
23:52.18zimmraw power ?
23:52.25Davilionyeah, iggy and the stooges.
23:52.31zimmahhaa
23:52.33Davilionyou just can't buy vinyl with that on it any more.
23:52.36Davilion:((
23:52.42Davilioni have a cd version but its not the same man!
23:52.47zimmtrue ..
23:53.47dankolbDavilion: Try Avid records in Oxford
23:58.27zimmwoo , the ozric's
23:58.32zimmhavent heard them in a while
23:58.39SpudULikeHey, that's wrong, download should be off.  Sorry to disappoint.
23:59.06zimmhehe ,
23:59.41SpudULikeYou see Dalnet are trying to stop file sharing.

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