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00:13.17 | formi | zach |
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00:20.50 | zachary | hey formi |
00:21.35 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
00:22.16 | zachary | as in Global Positioning System? No. |
00:23.00 | formi | im having a hell of a time trying to get one working with a zaurus |
00:23.55 | formi | the docs say it should as easy as stopping pppd from taking over ttyS0 |
00:35.02 | zachary | sounds fun. Wish I could be of some help. |
00:35.55 | zimm|away | flyers for what zachary ? |
00:36.02 | formi | wih enough time then |
00:36.41 | zachary | zimm|away: Promote install fest at the computer fairs around TCR. |
00:36.54 | zimm|away | ahh , a worthy cause indeed .. :) |
00:38.01 | formi | of which zach is more than guilty :-) |
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00:48.39 | new2unix | hi all. |
00:48.54 | formi | hi M |
00:48.57 | new2unix | any cisco knob heads in the house tonight? |
00:49.15 | new2unix | Hi F. :p |
00:51.20 | formi | on a friday fosdem night? |
00:51.31 | formi | you are asking for tooo much |
00:51.39 | new2unix | lol |
00:51.47 | new2unix | yeah. i guessed as much. |
00:51.48 | new2unix | brb |
01:05.15 | formi | im wondering if murb has been eaten by a shell script? |
01:07.18 | murb | dank is supposed tro wake up early and get to fosdem to get my dondation in for my t-shirt for 2003 which had better not be the same as last years |
01:11.25 | formi | new2unix: oi |
01:12.34 | new2unix | any folks want to send back a fosdem t-shirt for me? |
01:12.43 | new2unix | i'll pay good money for one. |
01:12.56 | formi | new2unix: there is a consume meeting on sunday |
01:13.06 | new2unix | i'll even chip in a brand new floppy drive for free. lol |
01:14.12 | formi | dell has decided stopping suppliying them as default, and most news sites say the floppy is gonna be history because of this |
01:14.35 | new2unix | thats why i'm giving one away fro free. |
01:14.38 | new2unix | any takers? |
01:14.40 | new2unix | haha |
01:19.39 | new2unix | had a problem assigning an ip address to a cisco 2950. decided to get back to it on Monday after some copius amounts of reading/research. thses things often give me headaches. lol |
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01:24.55 | zachary | formi: I've printed 200 so far. How many do you think we need? |
01:26.02 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
01:26.03 | new2unix | hello Zach. what are we doing? |
01:26.19 | new2unix | am lost. whats going on? |
01:26.41 | formi | leaflets to announce the installfest |
01:30.11 | zachary | formi: I need some sleep. I'm do the rest tomarrow over coffee. |
01:31.56 | zachary | I also have 20 remastered knoppix cd's that default to the uk keyboard layout. |
01:32.42 | formi | tomorrow at 10 then? |
01:34.00 | zachary | yes sir. I'll be in here up to 9:20. So if there is anything that comes up. Did you get my phone numbers |
01:34.02 | zachary | ? |
01:34.35 | formi | nope |
01:34.52 | formi | ring me |
01:34.59 | zachary | ok |
01:35.14 | zachary | good night all |
01:37.09 | new2unix | bye all |
01:37.16 | formi | new2unix: |
01:37.25 | new2unix | yeah? |
01:37.35 | formi | are you then coming to the consume meeting? |
01:38.13 | new2unix | oh. probably. where is it again? |
01:38.35 | formi | the limehouse |
01:38.47 | formi | check consume.net |
01:39.22 | formi | i'll see you there if you come |
01:39.35 | formi | im off to bed |
01:39.56 | formi | nght |
01:40.08 | new2unix | cool. i'll try and make it. i took my laptop to work and really messed things up as rook. will try and work on it tomorrow |
01:40.23 | new2unix | bye |
01:40.25 | new2unix | |
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08:32.05 | Spud | Hi,anyone qbout? |
08:32.28 | Spud | Ha, French keyboqrd |
08:32.31 | zachary | nope, just us nicks. |
08:32.57 | Spud | Ah, just qs well, then. |
08:35.01 | Spud | Ive forgotten the peice of pqper with the name of the hotel everyone is staying at. Theyve tqken it off the fosdem site too. Bah. |
08:36.24 | Spud | Gotta go, chat soon. |
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12:10.43 | highbury | morning |
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12:23.46 | A4266 | Hi |
12:24.07 | A4266 | resuDaed. you there? |
12:24.39 | A4266 | hmm.. guess not.. |
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12:27.03 | omphe | afternoon everyone. |
12:27.14 | zimm | afternoon |
12:27.20 | A4266 | g'day |
12:28.26 | omphe | Had to skip TCR fairs so I could go climbing tomorrow. |
12:28.39 | omphe | Now the weather is shit and I can't do either. :( |
12:28.51 | A4266 | :( That doesn't help at all |
12:29.01 | A4266 | At least ya get to speand some time online :P |
12:29.23 | A4266 | and have a good reason for doing it too!! |
12:29.42 | omphe | Yeah, but I'm going climbing in spain next week and could use some training time. |
12:29.59 | omphe | new computer toys could have eased the sting! |
12:30.08 | A4266 | hmm... Climb on to the roof a few times then |
12:30.15 | A4266 | lol |
12:31.06 | A4266 | whats wrong with them that they haven't eased it? |
12:31.47 | omphe | Can't go buy them at all, as I commited myself to work today in hopes of a climb tomorrow. |
12:32.11 | A4266 | lol |
12:32.31 | omphe | I'll have to settle for carpal wrists rather than pumpy ones. |
12:33.00 | A4266 | yup. Wouldn't doing a few pushups help at all? |
12:33.27 | omphe | I do plenty of those, but no. |
12:33.49 | omphe | Try hanging from your door jam by feet and fingers. Not a pushup like exercise. |
12:33.56 | A4266 | lol |
12:34.09 | A4266 | I've tried b4. but the ledges are to small... |
12:34.57 | A4266 | also they're not high enough to get my feet off the ground :P |
12:35.10 | omphe | Too small for fingers or too small for clean pants? |
12:35.19 | A4266 | lo, fingers :P |
12:35.22 | A4266 | *lol |
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12:36.12 | omphe | afternoon Jenson |
12:36.13 | zimm | hey Jenson |
12:36.18 | A4266 | hey Jenson |
12:36.19 | Jenson | hey omphe |
12:36.22 | Jenson | hey zimm |
12:36.25 | Jenson | hey A4266 |
12:37.01 | A4266 | lol |
12:37.02 | zimm | how are the fosdemer's Jenson ? i assume you are getting regular updates ? |
12:37.10 | Jenson | Now I've got to sort my audio drivers for Win and for Slack |
12:37.35 | A4266 | I've got to do the same for slack myself. Haven't got sound on it yet |
12:37.39 | Jenson | zimm: I don't think Dan was very happy yesterday and this morning, but I think he's ok now he's met up with the others |
12:37.47 | zimm | ahh ,, |
12:37.50 | Jenson | A4266: Well, good luck |
12:37.53 | Jenson | what card? |
12:38.16 | A4266 | umm.. Vreative live I think it is. |
12:38.26 | A4266 | My pc is at home :P |
12:38.30 | A4266 | *creative |
12:38.38 | Jenson | The thing is, in true irritating fashion, in Win I get blue screen crashes, in KDE I get a nice polite msg with an OK box |
12:38.48 | zimm | hehe |
12:38.48 | A4266 | lol |
12:38.52 | zimm | at least its polite |
12:38.53 | Jenson | Creative Live Player 1024 is the one thats giving me crap |
12:38.59 | A4266 | Thats the joys of linux |
12:39.10 | Jenson | yeah zimm and I have to option of blocking it |
12:39.33 | A4266 | hm.. I'm gonna have to bug my bro as to how to get it going as he has the same card |
12:39.42 | zimm | what actually crashes in kde ? Jenson |
12:39.42 | Jenson | I've gotta try to sort my modem in Linux, Ive got the choice of attempting to see if it likes my PCI modem, or adding an ext modem and workjing out how to use that |
12:40.05 | A4266 | start small if I were you. |
12:40.26 | Jenson | zimm: So far zimm the only thing I've actually crashed is KFoulEggs, and the whole of X at one point |
12:40.27 | omphe | External is the only way to go. |
12:40.30 | Jenson | Since yesterday |
12:40.39 | Jenson | omphe: Yeah |
12:41.25 | Jenson | I'm not actually convinced Win is quite sure where my PCI modem is either, just seems to work. |
12:41.33 | Jenson | zimm: You got no clothes on? |
12:42.32 | zimm | i have now .. |
12:42.38 | A4266 | lol |
12:42.42 | zimm | id just got out of the shower |
12:42.44 | Jenson | Damn, did I miss you half naked? |
12:42.55 | zimm | err , i was completely naked .. |
12:43.08 | Jenson | Ohh naked and dripping with water :P |
12:43.16 | A4266 | lol |
12:43.16 | zimm | lol |
12:43.22 | Jenson | Anyway, getting back to what I was about to say about audio drivers |
12:43.44 | A4266 | }¬] |
12:44.07 | Jenson | I think the problem with the audio drivers in Win is that the patch I need to d/l is 5.53MB according to Creative site, but the d/l is only actually 2.06MB |
12:44.21 | Jenson | I had this problem on my last format but the patch sorted it. |
12:44.21 | zimm | hmm ,, |
12:44.40 | zimm | does the card work in linux at all ? |
12:44.43 | A4266 | <PROTECTED> |
12:44.58 | Jenson | I have no clue whats going on with Linux, and no it doesnt work, but I wasnt expecting it to. |
12:45.28 | zimm | aww |
12:45.30 | A4266 | I think I ended up getting the driver elsewhere |
12:45.45 | Jenson | I'm playing Darren Hayes, speakers plugged in to headphone jack on CDplayer lol |
12:45.51 | Jenson | A4266: Yeah I was looking for a mirror |
12:46.11 | Jenson | zimm: You being naughty? |
12:46.30 | Jenson | I love that track |
12:46.31 | A4266 | lol |
12:46.43 | Jenson | Too bad I can't currenlty play MP3s coz my soundcards are giving me shit |
12:46.49 | Jenson | BRB |
12:46.56 | A4266 | oklies |
12:47.01 | zimm | k |
12:48.02 | Jenson | back |
12:48.06 | A4266 | wb |
12:48.49 | Jenson | Damn my mother just said make sure I can play tetris |
12:48.53 | Jenson | it isnt installed lol |
12:48.57 | A4266 | lol |
12:49.14 | Jenson | oh yay |
12:49.16 | Jenson | It is on here |
12:49.27 | A4266 | My mom wants the same dorta thing, 'cept she prefers Samegame |
12:49.35 | A4266 | *sorta |
12:50.04 | Jenson | :) |
12:50.05 | A4266 | what sound card have ya got btw and what win are ya running? |
12:50.14 | Jenson | I'm gonna encourage mine into KFoulEggs and thus Linux |
12:50.25 | Jenson | Soundblaster Live Player 1024 Win98SE |
12:51.06 | Jenson | I have a headache, I think my brain is trying to tell me not to mess up my sleep patterns |
12:51.17 | zimm | heh , could be |
12:51.45 | A4266 | lol |
12:52.17 | Jenson | I shouldn't have stayed up til 1:45 talking to zimm on Thursday should I |
12:53.09 | Jenson | It's ok, it was an interesting conversation |
12:53.18 | A4266 | lol |
12:53.48 | A4266 | I was up a bit late last night myself. Was fooling around with linux with clyphox, resuDaed and another mate |
12:54.13 | omphe | zimm is a free house elf! |
12:54.19 | Jenson | A4266: You know clyphox and resuDaed, and Beth I assume, cool. |
12:54.37 | A4266 | yup |
12:54.44 | A4266 | I'm related to 2 of 'em :) |
12:55.07 | omphe | zimm: sorry Harry Potter joke. Totally uncalled for. |
12:55.24 | A4266 | lol, ohh ya. Nobby I think it was :P |
12:55.30 | omphe | Dobby. |
12:55.39 | A4266 | I've read the lot of 'em a few years back |
12:55.57 | A4266 | go and dl them :P |
12:56.04 | omphe | I read the lot in a few days when I broke my back. |
12:56.12 | A4266 | lol |
12:56.22 | Jenson | Yeah Dobby |
12:56.28 | Jenson | That's a good movie I'm sorry to say |
12:56.44 | A4266 | I read them when I wasn't working. Nicked them off my sis and downloaded the last 1 |
12:56.46 | omphe | Books on a palm and a fat bag of grass are good for back injuries. |
12:56.57 | A4266 | I haven't seen the 2nd movie yet :( |
12:57.01 | Jenson | omphe: Yeah, sounds it |
12:57.02 | omphe | I've got the lot in a zip file for palm. |
12:57.31 | Jenson | Bye guys |
12:57.35 | Jenson | Have a nice day. |
12:58.07 | A4266 | ok, cya |
12:58.09 | zimm | laters Jenson |
12:58.16 | Jenson | Damn, I cant go yet still waiting for my dads mail to d/l |
12:58.42 | A4266 | lol |
12:59.09 | Jenson | He's mailed loads of pictures of our building work home that he took on his works digital camera |
12:59.11 | A4266 | he must have a lot of mail... |
12:59.20 | A4266 | heh |
12:59.31 | Jenson | My dad doesnt really get mail that he hasnt sent to himself lol |
12:59.46 | Jenson | A4266: Are you new here BTW? |
12:59.56 | A4266 | Jenson: try this link for the sound card drivers http://www.tweakers.net/meuktracker/1247 |
13:00.08 | Jenson | ty |
13:00.09 | A4266 | kinda, I've been in a few times b4 |
13:00.11 | A4266 | np |
13:00.49 | Jenson | Oh, I don't need to ask a/s/l......but how old are you? |
13:01.01 | A4266 | lol, 20 |
13:01.13 | Jenson | Oh, apart from Beth I'm still the youngest then |
13:01.19 | A4266 | lol |
13:01.33 | A4266 | well I think ya can get my sex and location :) |
13:01.41 | A4266 | how young is that then? |
13:01.47 | Jenson | 18 |
13:01.58 | A4266 | cool :) |
13:02.11 | A4266 | you're not much older the Beth then :) |
13:02.21 | Jenson | I know |
13:02.31 | Jenson | Great, d/ling my drivers from a Dutch site :) |
13:02.39 | A4266 | :) |
13:02.49 | Jenson | Why zimm hon? |
13:02.50 | zimm | A4266 >= ? |
13:03.02 | Jenson | Friend of the resus |
13:03.09 | zimm | ahh ..# |
13:03.14 | A4266 | ya |
13:03.31 | A4266 | I'm Clyphox's twin btw. :) |
13:03.50 | zimm | ahh ..# .... |
13:04.18 | Jenson | Well i would have been downloading from theat site but it doesnt seem to exist |
13:04.28 | A4266 | hm... damn. |
13:04.45 | Jenson | It copuld have timed out |
13:04.55 | Jenson | I have crap bandwidth when I'm already downloading |
13:05.10 | A4266 | I don't think so. I just tried oit now. It was taking its time... |
13:05.16 | A4266 | *it |
13:05.22 | Jenson | Oh well |
13:05.24 | zimm | it died for me too |
13:05.33 | Jenson | Not just me for once :) |
13:05.51 | Jenson | Good, this mail is nearly done, I can reboot soon |
13:06.57 | A4266 | :) |
13:07.03 | Jenson | A4266: You going to be at the InstallFest? |
13:08.00 | A4266 | ya :) |
13:08.12 | Jenson | Cool, I'll see ya there then :) |
13:08.39 | A4266 | cool :) |
13:09.11 | A4266 | I can't wait actualy. There are quite a few thing I gotta learn!! |
13:09.21 | Jenson | Yeah me too |
13:09.39 | Jenson | I can install and do Xconfig......but other than that not much |
13:09.55 | Jenson | A4266: Which distro you running? |
13:10.21 | Jenson | :D |
13:11.06 | A4266 | ol |
13:11.08 | A4266 | *lol |
13:11.46 | A4266 | I've been able to get my machine to dual boot, but I haven't booted into slack for a while :/. |
13:12.16 | Jenson | awwww |
13:12.21 | Jenson | I have to go |
13:12.24 | Jenson | BBL |
13:12.30 | A4266 | ok, cya :) |
13:12.30 | zimm | laters Jenson |
13:12.33 | Jenson | later |
13:12.35 | omphe | ciao |
13:13.18 | A4266 | what distro do you guys use? |
13:13.26 | omphe | debian |
13:13.29 | zimm|coffee | debian |
13:13.36 | A4266 | cool :) |
13:13.47 | zimm|coffee | course , we cant say that when dankolb is here |
13:14.01 | A4266 | I want to try debian out some time 'cause U've heard of the update command |
13:14.02 | zimm|coffee | he seems to have an allergy |
13:14.07 | A4266 | lol |
13:14.15 | A4266 | What's he hooked on then? |
13:14.19 | zimm|coffee | slack |
13:14.27 | A4266 | lol |
13:14.28 | omphe | zimm|coffee: to anything but OpenBSD |
13:14.34 | A4266 | lol |
13:14.46 | zimm|coffee | omphe: lol , true |
13:15.04 | omphe | no matter what question I ask, he hands me that. |
13:15.21 | A4266 | lol. |
13:15.40 | A4266 | Sounds like a fun person :P |
13:15.49 | omphe | Hell, I've lost too much sleep over Debian to give up now. |
13:15.58 | A4266 | lol |
13:16.34 | omphe | Dankolb's cool, he's helped me out a few times. |
13:16.41 | A4266 | :) |
13:16.55 | omphe | superglued to Jenson |
13:17.14 | A4266 | lol, so he's her boyfriend is it? |
13:17.17 | A4266 | lol |
13:17.18 | zimm|coffee | yeh |
13:17.24 | omphe | zimm|coffee: I want KDE3, but am worried about ditching stable. |
13:17.41 | A4266 | I thought you were running unstable? |
13:17.45 | zimm|coffee | omphe: official kde packages are available from download.uk.kde.org |
13:17.50 | zimm|coffee | for woody |
13:18.06 | zimm|coffee | check the kde site for the deb line |
13:18.21 | omphe | yeah, I need to update my sources.list |
13:18.41 | omphe | Any notable improvements? |
13:18.48 | zimm|coffee | sid was held up cos of the gcc transition .,, but woody actuallky had kde3.1 within hours of it going to final release |
13:19.11 | zimm|coffee | omphe: hmm , tabs in konq , its faster , and err , nicer |
13:19.31 | omphe | Knoppix has kde3 no? |
13:19.41 | zimm|coffee | dunno , never used it |
13:19.46 | omphe | Cos Knoppix Kde is much sexier than woody's. |
13:20.06 | zimm|coffee | well , whatever.. 3.1 is availablew for woody .., |
13:20.20 | zimm|coffee | brb |
13:22.15 | A4266 | lol |
13:29.48 | A4266 | wb. ya got the coffee I take it? :P |
13:29.55 | zimm | yup |
13:30.23 | A4266 | grrr... COFFEE!!! :P |
13:30.28 | zimm | had to survive an encounter with the evil landlord creature and its dog , but im back all the same |
13:30.36 | A4266 | lol |
13:33.01 | A4266 | you'll have to excuse my lack of talking and delays. I'm at the office today :/ |
13:33.09 | zimm | np |
13:33.37 | zimm | my excuse is merely that im boring and have nothing to say :) |
13:33.43 | A4266 | lol |
13:33.49 | A4266 | thats my other excuse :P |
13:34.03 | A4266 | Also most ppl don't know as much star trek as me.... |
13:34.07 | A4266 | lol |
13:34.30 | A4266 | yummy :D |
13:34.33 | zimm | lol |
13:35.14 | A4266 | lol |
13:35.35 | A4266 | better not, you'll put them all to shame there.. |
13:35.48 | zimm | ahh , i see you are familiar with them .. |
13:36.07 | A4266 | no, but I know what they're like |
13:36.21 | A4266 | lol |
13:37.28 | A4266 | lol |
13:37.28 | omphe | C'mon somebody laugh, that was fairly subtle, self-deprecating UKstyley humor. |
13:37.47 | A4266 | My dad's a mensan :/ But he's a cool mensan :D |
13:37.53 | zimm | evidently too subtle for us plebians |
13:37.58 | omphe | I'm a dumb yank. |
13:37.59 | A4266 | lol |
13:38.33 | A4266 | any1 have telewest here? |
13:38.43 | A4266 | was it hard to get in? |
13:39.27 | omphe | all this talk of coffee has made me tremble. |
13:39.55 | A4266 | I know what ya mean. I'm suffering coffee with drawl symptoms!! |
13:40.09 | A4266 | I haven't had any since 2 this morning!! |
13:41.57 | A4266 | arg, gotta get sky sport set up for me folks :/ |
13:48.59 | omphe | ohhhhh, heaven. Coffffffeeeeeee!!! |
13:50.37 | omphe | man, easy-rent-a-wreck is a cinch! |
13:51.24 | A4266 | coffee : p'''' |
13:52.19 | A4266 | thats it!!! BRB. Need food and coffee!! |
13:52.32 | omphe | happy hunting. |
14:01.19 | A4266 | I have hunted the great Burgerking and survived !!! |
14:02.29 | omphe | A4266 is in the BK lounge! |
14:02.52 | A4266 | ohh yeah!! :D |
14:04.09 | omphe | I might have to make a sacrifice to the Fridge gods for some chips and mayo! |
14:04.30 | A4266 | lol |
14:04.48 | omphe | don't type dude, you'll get your keyboard greazy. |
14:05.25 | omphe | We'll just imagine your shiny smiling face. |
14:05.29 | A4266 | not yet, I'm only eating the chips sofar and using 1 hand for eating :P |
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14:09.42 | A4266 | now for the burger :D |
14:10.46 | omphe | The dogs have just awakened. Need to tend to the animals. |
14:10.51 | omphe | BRB |
14:15.11 | A4266 | now that hit the spot :) |
14:31.27 | omphe | You guys are a bad dietary influence. |
14:31.35 | A4266 | lol |
14:31.47 | omphe | I'll have dined on coffee chips and mayo this afternoon. |
14:31.51 | A4266 | well that was just breakfast }¬] |
14:32.22 | omphe | In my drinking days, BK lounge soaked up alcohol better than anyone else. |
14:32.53 | A4266 | cool, thats something to remember :) |
14:57.52 | A4266 | why's that? |
14:59.11 | omphe | I can rebuild a Volkswagen, make web database applications, and cook fantastic food. But I can't make a lousy piece of toast without burning it. |
14:59.21 | A4266 | lol |
14:59.30 | omphe | It shouldn't be complicated. |
14:59.48 | A4266 | use the oven grill then to toast ya bread :P It works a treat :P |
15:00.20 | omphe | Actually it isn't. Insert bread. Push lever. Wait for smoke and pray that Prescott isn't provoking the fire brigade. |
15:00.29 | A4266 | lol |
15:01.06 | A4266 | other thing is to cheak the toast settings on the side :) Just make sure that it isn't set for to long :D |
15:01.38 | A4266 | *check |
15:01.47 | omphe | AFAIK a setting of 2 shouldn't = charred. |
15:01.57 | omphe | I hate to think what 8 will do. |
15:02.03 | A4266 | lol |
15:02.08 | omphe | I'd better have some asbestos jam ready. |
15:02.17 | A4266 | it might also be the bread you're using.... |
15:02.41 | A4266 | lol, cement jam is better. Easier to pick outa ya teeth |
15:03.10 | omphe | nah mate, it's me. I'm cursed wih some sort of bad toast gri-gri. |
15:03.40 | A4266 | lol.I feel sorry for you!! I haven't burnt toast in years :D |
15:04.28 | omphe | }-(:¬ P |
15:05.13 | A4266 | I gotta make tracks and head off home now. Cya a bit later |
15:05.31 | omphe | Done with work eh? Later. |
15:05.39 | A4266 | yup yup. Cya |
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16:11.02 | omphe | hi zachary |
16:11.16 | zachary | good afternoon(pre-evening) |
16:11.22 | zachary | hi omphe |
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16:15.46 | A4266 | Yo |
16:15.52 | omphe | home again home again jiggidy jig....good evening |
16:15.57 | A4266 | lol |
16:16.11 | A4266 | Hello Steph :P |
16:16.13 | omphe | sorry, that's blade runner. |
16:16.21 | A4266 | I know :P |
16:16.38 | A4266 | and the guys name was steph/steff :P |
16:17.23 | omphe | which guy? |
16:17.58 | A4266 | the guy who disigned the little dwarves who did that jig :D |
16:18.16 | omphe | nope, "goood evening Sebastian" |
16:18.33 | A4266 | ohhh, ya. You're right!! |
16:18.44 | A4266 | I haven't seen the movie in months |
16:18.58 | A4266 | brb, ice cream :S |
16:18.59 | omphe | I'm watching a dog right now who runs into the wall like that. |
16:19.01 | A4266 | *:D |
16:20.04 | A4266 | lol |
16:20.14 | A4266 | is it a puppy or something? |
16:20.37 | omphe | No, 10 yrs and hair in the eyes. |
16:20.52 | A4266 | ohhh. Shoot it! |
16:21.08 | omphe | Bro, you gotta stop with the food suggestions. I'm dyin for some B&G now. |
16:21.19 | A4266 | lol |
16:21.57 | A4266 | want to know what I had to eat when I got home? ;) |
16:22.06 | omphe | Probably not. |
16:22.12 | A4266 | lol |
16:22.34 | A4266 | probly make you go running for b&g :D |
16:24.25 | A4266 | ever heard of a game called One must fall? |
16:25.52 | omphe | no |
16:26.18 | A4266 | good classic game :) |
16:26.45 | A4266 | had robots fighting each other like in tekken :D |
16:28.02 | omphe | know anything about .htaccess files? |
16:28.13 | eye69 | What about them? |
16:28.33 | A4266 | sorry, I probly know less then you |
16:29.02 | eye69 | omphe: You having problems? |
16:29.06 | omphe | I get a repeated user/pass prompt. |
16:29.18 | omphe | .htpasswd outside public directory |
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16:29.27 | omphe | permissions 644 |
16:29.33 | omphe | wb Jenson |
16:29.35 | A4266 | hey Jenson |
16:29.44 | Jenson | ty |
16:29.44 | Jenson | heya |
16:29.57 | eye69 | You have a line: <username>:<CRYPT PWD> in the .htpasswd? |
16:30.02 | omphe | Jenson:atta girl! |
16:30.06 | Jenson | I'm about to take my Winmodem out and donate it to my auntie |
16:30.12 | omphe | eye69: yeah |
16:30.12 | A4266 | lol |
16:30.19 | Jenson | Of course now I've gotta work out how to install it in linux |
16:30.21 | eye69 | omphe: Anything in the error log? |
16:30.33 | omphe | eye69: one sec.... |
16:31.19 | A4266 | the fun part ;) |
16:31.36 | Jenson | A4266: That's assuming it isn't an integrated card. |
16:32.13 | A4266 | lol, ya |
16:32.42 | zachary | Jenson: make sure that the winmodem isn't grabbing the irq an i/o adress of the serial port. |
16:32.43 | Jenson | I don't remember seeing a modem card when I cleaned the dust out |
16:33.04 | omphe | the logs were complaining about a missing file, but I've fixed that. |
16:33.05 | A4266 | can ya still see a phone port on the back? |
16:33.06 | Jenson | zachary: It won't be if I take it out >:) |
16:33.22 | Jenson | A4266: Yeah |
16:33.25 | eye69 | omphe: What does your .htaccess file look like? |
16:33.37 | zachary | Jenson: You still might have to disable the winmodem in bios. |
16:33.39 | eye69 | Hiya zach |
16:33.44 | zachary | hi eye69 |
16:33.53 | zachary | how's things |
16:33.55 | zachary | ? |
16:33.59 | eye69 | Things are good. |
16:34.05 | Jenson | zachary: grrrrrrrr what fun, I was just gonna remove it from the hardware profile and take it from there |
16:34.35 | Jenson | The winmodem has IRQ 11 as far as I can remember |
16:34.39 | omphe | eye69: AuthType Basic AuthName "the SMITH quartet :: Web site preview area" AuthUserFile /smithquartet.com/.htpasswd Require user sq4qtet |
16:35.49 | Jenson | How do I get Linux to recognize a modem connected to COM1 I'm guessing it won't do it automatiocvally |
16:36.05 | eye69 | omphe: You used htpasswd to create the password file? |
16:36.12 | omphe | eye69: yup |
16:36.14 | A4266 | no, have you installed the drivers for it yet? |
16:36.19 | eye69 | omphe: The htpasswd file can be anywhere though. |
16:36.34 | eye69 | omphe: What does the log say when you try to access it? |
16:37.00 | Jenson | A4266: Win drivers yeah, not booted into Linux to have llok yet |
16:37.10 | Jenson | I added the modem just before I logged in |
16:37.15 | A4266 | k |
16:37.29 | eye69 | My .htaccess file is 644, and my htpasswd.users is also 644, but it's outside DocumentRoot |
16:37.51 | A4266 | hehe |
16:38.08 | A4266 | Damn, the Matrix Reloaded trailer looks good!!! |
16:38.14 | Jenson | Well I'll BBL, got to investigate this Winmodem |
16:38.26 | A4266 | k |
16:38.27 | A4266 | byee |
16:38.31 | Jenson | cya |
16:38.34 | eye69 | omphe: Have you added "AllowOverride AuthConfig" for the dir in the Apache config? |
16:39.27 | omphe | eye69: not my server. I'm trying this at a distance. |
16:39.45 | eye69 | omphe: You need it. |
16:39.58 | omphe | eye69: hosting account with ukfsn. Jason's prolly got it disallowed. |
16:40.16 | omphe | I'll just swing it with php/mysql instead. Just wanted to try this first. |
16:40.26 | eye69 | omphe: Yeah. You'll have to ask him to add it. |
16:40.56 | omphe | eye69: I can do php/mysql myself. He's busy enough. |
16:41.21 | omphe | eye69: better learning experience anyway |
16:41.41 | eye69 | We've just moved most of our site over to our own authentication system. One problem with that is that the usernames don't get logged in the weblog. |
16:42.36 | omphe | This is just a preview area for the client. As I was using Basic authentication, I'm obviously not too worried re. security. |
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17:04.03 | A4266 | lol, weldone Jenson :D |
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17:04.08 | A4266 | *well |
17:04.14 | omphe | get that thing off your desk |
17:04.20 | omphe | hey formi |
17:04.28 | Jenson | hey formi |
17:04.34 | formi | hello |
17:04.51 | Jenson | I was about to go look for and print a how-to on modems, but I havent got the fucking printer connected |
17:05.40 | formi | don't waste paper |
17:05.56 | Jenson | ty omphe :) |
17:07.32 | Jenson | Does everyone else always manage to cut themselves on their computers? |
17:08.04 | omphe | No but I often concuss myself on the monitor or keyboard. |
17:08.51 | A4266 | hmmm. I haven't done any of those yet :( |
17:09.16 | A4266 | I get lots of paper cuts from the manuals though.... |
17:09.26 | formi | Jenson some of us are not glued to them |
17:10.01 | Jenson | I'm not glued to my computer. |
17:10.15 | A4266 | I seem to work on the hardware that likes to get electrocuded.... |
17:11.10 | A4266 | I've seen 1 mb, 1 psu and 1 hd litratraly go up in smoke |
17:11.19 | A4266 | and thats in 3 months |
17:11.35 | Jenson | oopsie lol |
17:11.40 | formi | A4266: you should consider a career as a magician |
17:11.44 | Jenson | Well I'm going to log off again |
17:11.45 | A4266 | lol |
17:12.02 | A4266 | would be interesting :P |
17:13.05 | A4266 | especialy the tricks that require an audiance member }¬> |
17:13.25 | omphe | or a sparkly assistant? |
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17:14.22 | A4266 | noo, wouldn't put the sparkly assistant at risk. I'd keep her safe in my bed instead :P ;) |
17:16.22 | zachary | formi: Went back to the computer fair on cleveland. They had a few of the hp vectras. Same price, but with 10/100 nic. |
17:16.40 | formi | did you buy one? |
17:16.45 | zachary | yes |
17:17.05 | formi | any heavy handed manners at home? |
17:17.07 | zachary | Went home first( had to go through the finance comittee). |
17:17.14 | zachary | aka, my wife. |
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17:17.45 | zachary | A whole lot cleaner than the others. |
17:18.10 | formi | have you started playing with it? |
17:18.24 | formi | have you knoppix-ed it? |
17:18.29 | formi | hey Axel |
17:18.45 | zachary | no, need to put in a hard drive and the extra memory. Which is in my daughters room, she's taking a nap. |
17:19.00 | zachary | The fustration. New toy and I can't play with it. |
17:19.30 | formi | what are you gonna put on it? |
17:20.09 | zachary | Thinking stat with mandrake9.0 see if the acatel modem will work. then I might give debian a try. |
17:20.49 | Axel | hi ho |
17:21.25 | zachary | evening Axel |
17:21.33 | omphe | hey axel |
17:21.54 | Axel | =) |
17:22.01 | zachary | formi: cleaned it up a little. Took the fricken win nt sticker off. |
17:22.26 | A4266 | I'm off to play games. cya all later |
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17:23.33 | zachary | brb, daughter is awake |
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17:25.43 | omphe | Need to work a bit. Thanks for the help eye69. |
17:25.55 | zimm | hey omphe |
17:26.04 | omphe | hiya zimm |
17:26.16 | omphe | See you all later. |
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17:59.11 | Jenson | hey stephen |
18:00.09 | stephen | hey jenson |
18:00.48 | Stephen | really? well done |
18:00.55 | BorgBaby | hey - you did it! |
18:01.04 | Jenson | :) |
18:01.12 | Jenson | I hate this client |
18:01.21 | Stephen | which one? |
18:01.21 | Jenson | I can't work out how to close extra tabs |
18:01.25 | Jenson | KSirc |
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18:01.45 | BorgBaby | yuk - it's ugly. use xchat |
18:01.48 | Jenson | hey zimm |
18:01.55 | zimm | hey Jenson |
18:01.59 | Jenson | Yeah BorgBaby XChat deosnt run in KDE does it |
18:02.06 | zimm | ? |
18:02.07 | Jenson | zimm: version check me :P |
18:02.19 | zimm | sirc ? |
18:02.20 | BorgBaby | yeah, it will |
18:02.21 | zimm | ewww |
18:02.26 | Jenson | yeah ie not windows though |
18:02.28 | zimm | Jenson: yeh it will |
18:02.58 | zimm | hehe |
18:03.23 | Jenson | I love Xchat, just dunno how to run it in KDE |
18:03.28 | zimm | xchat 1.9.8 rox0rs |
18:03.28 | Jenson | if someone would enlighten me |
18:03.34 | zimm | Jenson: just run it .. |
18:03.47 | zimm | right click , run command , type xchat |
18:04.12 | BorgBaby | window manager makes no difference |
18:04.16 | Stephen | zimm: except my copy always crashes when I try and load a perl script, perhaps it's a buggy build or something |
18:04.35 | zimm | Stephen: they changed the ui code , you need all new scripts .. |
18:04.38 | Jenson | I'm just gonna log out of root |
18:04.39 | Jenson | BBS |
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18:05.48 | zimm | Stephen: xchat 2.0.0pre1 is out now .. but i havent built it yet |
18:06.31 | Stephen | zimm: perhaps i'll have to get that, so far i've just stuck with what came with slack, but perhaps i'll build my own copy in the near future |
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18:15.37 | zimm | :) |
18:15.56 | Jenson | I did |
18:16.01 | Jenson | Is that clever? |
18:16.11 | zimm | ive never managed it .. |
18:16.16 | Stephen | supposed to be a intimidating |
18:16.24 | Stephen | +bit |
18:16.37 | Jenson | aww zimm I'll help you :P |
18:16.47 | Jenson | This is a terrible font |
18:17.06 | Jenson | zimm: I have 2, except 1 I think is a Winmodem |
18:17.34 | Jenson | Mother needs phone |
18:17.35 | Jenson | BRB |
18:18.27 | Stephen | zimm: why? |
18:22.39 | zimm | cos i have to move this week . |
18:23.05 | zimm | so depending on where i end up , i may or may not have net access |
18:23.38 | Stephen | oh, you on cable/ADSL or something? |
18:24.08 | zimm | got 128k cable at the mo . |
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18:24.28 | zimm | wb Jenson |
18:24.30 | Stephen | zimm: oh well, i suppose you could always go to dial-up for a time |
18:24.46 | zimm | Stephen: lol , i have no modem , just a pile of nics |
18:24.48 | Jenson | ty zimm |
18:25.33 | Stephen | zimm: yeah, i have the same problem, i've never even had a modem in one of my linux machines |
18:26.07 | Stephen | i'll probably have to get a modem next year when i move out of halls |
18:26.29 | zimm | hehe Stephen, lol , i found out i can host a site on my uni's webmail-server :-) >> janet !!! lol |
18:26.32 | Stephen | unless whoever i get a house decide to split the cost of ADSL or cable |
18:26.52 | Stephen | zimm: cool |
18:27.10 | Jenson | yeah warez! |
18:27.26 | Jenson | How do I add XChat to the KDE menus? |
18:27.32 | zimm | warez r0x0rz d00dz |
18:27.39 | Jenson | I've learnt loads about Linux today |
18:27.41 | zimm | Jenson: use kmenuedit |
18:27.54 | zimm | or kappfinder |
18:30.51 | Jenson | Yay I did that |
18:32.22 | zimm | what spec is the box you are using Jenson ? |
18:32.50 | Jenson | 700MHZ 128MBSDRAM 20GB HDD |
18:33.02 | zimm | Pentium3 |
18:33.03 | zimm | ? |
18:33.07 | Jenson | I think so |
18:33.13 | Jenson | yeah |
18:33.43 | zimm | brb , new xchat to try |
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18:34.20 | Jenson | wb zimm |
18:34.23 | zimm | :-) |
18:35.07 | Jenson | I'm trying to work out how to change this irritating font now |
18:35.23 | Jenson | I prefer Linux XChat to Win XChat I think. |
18:35.24 | zachary | bbl, going to work on my puter. :) |
18:35.37 | zachary | Jenson: using linux now? |
18:35.47 | Jenson_Dinner | I am zachary |
18:35.53 | zachary | Congrats |
18:42.13 | zimm | hmm , think i'll rebuild without xft .. |
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18:47.40 | Jenson | wb zimm |
18:47.51 | zimm | :) |
18:48.05 | Jenson | You're in a smiley mood today :P |
18:48.17 | zimm | eewww, they made a hideous gui error with xchat2 |
18:48.25 | zimm | the ext input box is black ! |
18:48.33 | zimm | and the title bar |
18:48.54 | Jenson | Does KDE have a IM client compatible with MSN |
18:49.00 | Jenson | ibot lart XChat2 |
18:49.01 | zimm | gaim ? kopete ? |
18:49.29 | highbury | Jenson: I use gaim for MSN/ICQ works well |
18:49.37 | Jenson | cool highbury |
18:49.44 | Jenson | See my mate uses MSN, and irc confuses her |
18:50.36 | formi | highbury: I have tried to use gaim but it doesn't run on my system |
18:50.46 | Jenson | How do you configure it for MSN then? |
18:50.56 | formi | it blurps something like gnome panel not found |
18:51.25 | highbury | what distro you using formi? |
18:51.35 | formi | i compiled it without gnome support and still asks for gnome |
18:51.44 | formi | freebsd |
18:52.22 | formi | but that shouldn't be an issue, it compiles cleaningly |
18:52.25 | highbury | Jenson: fire up gaim, Tools->Plugins, ensure libmsn is loaded |
18:52.26 | Stephen | Jenson: just make sure you load the libmsn.o (or whatever it's called) modules |
18:52.50 | highbury | formi: sounds like a library issue, |
18:53.21 | highbury | I also load "spellchk" plugin |
18:54.10 | formi | highbury: shouldn't be, you shouldn't be able to compile witout the libraries, |
18:54.22 | highbury | Then Tools->Accounts, then add an account, with appropriate protocol |
18:54.56 | formi | highbury: when installing it does check to see if all dependancies are met |
18:55.50 | highbury | formi: gaim, is quite active on Sourceforge, so you could try asking. |
18:55.55 | formi | what i don't understand is why when i compiled without gnome support it still complains |
18:56.23 | highbury | formi: its all just software, therefore prone to errors |
18:57.28 | formi | i will give it another try sometime |
18:57.47 | highbury | formi: have you tried precompiled version? |
18:57.57 | formi | nope |
18:58.52 | highbury | Its weird over the years of using Linux, I've moved from using sources to using binaries |
18:59.21 | formi | highbury: freebsd is another world in that respect |
18:59.38 | zimm | then it all became too much effort for too little gain |
18:59.52 | eye69 | I don't use sources unless I have to. The Debian packages mostly are of very good quality. |
18:59.54 | highbury | yep, when Gentoo 1.4 finally goes final, perhaps I will again |
19:00.38 | highbury | emphasis on *mostly* eh eye69 |
19:01.29 | formi | it's a nice passive os fingerprinting proggy |
19:01.52 | eye69 | highbury: Bah. :) |
19:02.36 | Jenson | grrr, I need a popup killer for KDE Moz |
19:03.05 | zimm | Jenson: what version of kde do you have ? |
19:03.14 | Jenson | 3.0 I think |
19:03.28 | formi | http://www.stearns.org/p0f/ |
19:04.08 | zimm | you dont have tabbed browsing in konq ? |
19:04.28 | Jenson | I'm not gonna try out Konqueror |
19:04.34 | Jenson | I'm just learning zimm :) |
19:05.25 | zimm | konqueror is lovely :-) |
19:05.34 | Jenson | I should be configuring my printer but nevermind |
19:05.36 | zimm | well , it is in 3.1 |
19:05.48 | zimm | tabs , loada in under a second ,, mmm |
19:06.08 | Jenson | And I need to configre my mailer too |
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19:11.50 | zimm | muahahah |
19:11.55 | zimm | sorted it ! |
19:13.01 | Jenson | lol well done zimm |
19:13.14 | zimm | :) |
19:14.11 | Jenson | I'm now sorting my mailer |
19:14.27 | Jenson | Then I oughta sort my printer |
19:14.42 | Jenson | My parents will kill me for having not got Win working properly or installing MS Office, they'll just have to use Slack |
19:15.21 | zimm | lol |
19:16.27 | Jenson | lol higq |
19:16.29 | Jenson | highbury: |
19:16.34 | Jenson | Damn cant type today |
19:17.00 | formi_brb | <PROTECTED> |
19:18.17 | formi | and not by a female |
19:19.06 | highbury | p0f could do with a web page |
19:19.53 | highbury | or perhaps a better designed one at least |
19:20.33 | highbury | almost finished downloading freebsd 5.0 .iso's |
19:20.48 | formi | highbury: is not that difficult to use |
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19:21.00 | highbury | is it possible to install from .iso images, without a burner? |
19:21.20 | formi | loop the iso's and do a network install |
19:21.53 | formi | or copy the whole lot |
19:22.15 | highbury | what if I only have one machine? is it possible to create boot floppy and install then from the iso images? |
19:23.11 | Jenson | The Evolution mailer is so much nicer than OE |
19:23.39 | Stephen | Jenson: Evolution would never work for me under slack |
19:23.54 | Jenson | Stephen: Well it seems to be |
19:23.54 | Stephen | so you're obviously doing better than me |
19:24.03 | formi | highbury: can't you burn them? |
19:24.03 | Jenson | I didn't understand KMail lol |
19:24.20 | highbury | I don't have a burner anymore :-( |
19:24.36 | Stephen | highbury: that sucks :( |
19:24.59 | formi | can't you do a inter'net' install? |
19:25.12 | zimm | cant you just mount the iso on a hd partition and treat it like a cd . ? |
19:25.18 | Stephen | tbh it was one of the first things i got when i went to uni, just in case my disk died |
19:25.45 | Stephen | you can probably mount iso images during install |
19:25.50 | Jenson | I ought to put the case back on this Pc now, I don't need to put my winmodem back in. |
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19:27.49 | formi | highbury: are you talking about fb? |
19:29.15 | highbury | hmm, CHECKSUM.MD5 isn't normal format |
19:29.50 | formi | what? |
19:30.02 | Jenson | Well, this computer is giving me a headache |
19:30.07 | formi | have you been drinking? |
19:30.14 | Jenson | Nope |
19:30.20 | Stephen | and if not, why not? |
19:30.40 | formi | I mean highbury |
19:30.44 | Jenson | lol ok |
19:30.51 | Jenson | I'll see you all later then |
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19:33.27 | formi | MD5 (5.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso) = 677bf7566f8845cc46549aa167940042 |
19:33.27 | formi | MD5 (5.0-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso) = e903b890272bde55e34eb81fe11ff80f |
19:33.27 | formi | MD5 (5.0-RELEASE-i386-miniinst.iso) = 78aaff39c326b4f781820f1dd2340061 |
19:33.52 | formi | highbury: that is what you should have in your checksum.md5 |
19:34.03 | highbury | normally it would look like |
19:34.04 | highbury | 677bf7566f8845cc46549aa167940042 5.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso |
19:34.30 | highbury | so that I could say "md5sum --check CHEKSUM.MD5" |
19:34.55 | highbury | but I presume, freebsd has different command |
19:35.04 | formi | i usually just do md5sum *.iso and then compare |
19:36.17 | highbury | my way is slightly safer :-) |
19:36.39 | formi | my eyes can still see |
19:36.44 | murb | hi formi |
19:36.50 | formi | hi murb |
19:36.56 | murb | formi: huhn was disapointed that you didn't turn up |
19:37.02 | formi | got your tshirt? |
19:37.16 | highbury | although its unlikely that only one character of the checksum is different, it is possible |
19:38.03 | formi | murb: not wondering, such a lovely fella like me |
19:38.27 | murb | dank waves |
19:38.31 | formi | murb: say hello to her from me |
19:39.02 | murb | taragon says fuck off though, whichi sslighly less police |
19:39.08 | formi | hi dank |
19:39.10 | murb | s/police/polite/ |
19:39.36 | formi | tell tarragon to watch what he drinks |
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19:42.25 | Davilion | ibot: seen jenson |
19:42.29 | | jenson <1000@dial81-131-41-73.in-addr.btopenworld.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 11m 38s ago, saying: 'I'll see you all later then'. |
19:42.29 | Davilion | wonder if she got back online |
19:49.22 | Davilion | hmm, did any fosdemers end up on the dodgy euro* or did they make it ok? |
19:50.55 | Stephen | Davilion: i think the dodgy one was bound for Paris, so they probably weren't on it |
19:56.42 | zimm | brb |
19:57.11 | Davilion | ahh, i just heard borked eurostar, havent actually heard the details yet |
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19:58.07 | Davilion | wb zimm |
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20:00.04 | zimm | sweet |
20:00.58 | zimm | http://zimm.fudo.org/Files/linux_files/xchat_2.0.0pre1-1_i386.deb < for sid |
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20:41.22 | Ether | hi |
20:41.31 | zimm | :) |
20:41.42 | Ether | hehe |
20:41.53 | Ether | anyone here going to the 'install fest'? |
20:42.09 | Ether | okey cokey |
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20:48.11 | Ether | hehe |
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20:52.11 | zimm | wb Ether |
20:52.19 | Ether | ty |
20:54.04 | Ether | zimm? do you happen to know of a utility for unzipping .uz files? |
20:54.16 | Ether | ive looked and cant find one. |
20:54.22 | Ether | apart from UNreal 2003 |
20:54.25 | Ether | :-) |
20:54.40 | zimm | no idea im afraid . |
20:54.49 | Ether | bugger |
20:55.09 | Ether | ah well |
21:06.06 | zimm | :( |
21:06.10 | zimm | sorry man ,. |
21:10.37 | Ether | heeh not your fault. |
21:10.59 | Ether | ive posted a fer begging letters on som elikely boards so i may get lucky |
21:11.05 | Ether | *few |
21:11.32 | zimm | :) |
21:11.49 | Ether | yes# |
21:12.12 | Ether | sorry for spelling. the wine is getting to my fingers :-0 |
21:13.53 | zimm | :) |
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21:21.02 | Jenson | heya |
21:21.09 | Stephen | wb jenson |
21:21.15 | Jenson | ty Stephen |
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21:21.50 | Jenson | wb Ether |
21:21.57 | Ether | lol ty |
21:22.00 | Ether | :) |
21:22.13 | Ether | and hi |
21:22.16 | Jenson | hey |
21:24.24 | Jenson | I really oughta put the case back on the PC, coz if I kick the bassbooster then the modem and wireless thing will go flying into the soundcard. |
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21:24.54 | zachary | evening |
21:25.16 | Ether | hi |
21:25.30 | Jenson | wb zachary |
21:26.26 | zachary | didn't get to play. Made dinner instead. (Cajun BBQ pork ribs.) :) |
21:26.36 | Jenson | aww, go play now :P |
21:27.44 | zachary | Can't really, too tired. And I think I'm going to get a kvm switch. |
21:28.07 | Ether | i got a kvm, never looked back |
21:28.23 | Jenson | I should be installing the printer, but I'm sleepy |
21:28.44 | Stephen | zachary: yeah, they're pretty nice |
21:28.54 | Ether | indeed |
21:30.28 | zachary | I've been looking at a "Cables To GO" 4-port. |
21:30.54 | zachary | 40quid with 3quid rebate. |
21:31.06 | Ether | not seen that, but the D-link DKVM-4 i have is very good. no external psu needed |
21:31.15 | Ether | its a bit more than £40 tho :-( |
21:31.25 | Jenson | s/of/on |
21:31.40 | Stephen | zachary: FYI i've got a belkin 2 port that cost me like £90 18 months, it's quite nice as it uses standard VGA and PS/2 ports |
21:31.42 | Jenson | Is Ether new or a regular hiding in disguise? |
21:31.51 | Ether | im new as nasty wine |
21:32.07 | Ether | hi all. should i introduce myself? |
21:32.18 | Jenson | yeah |
21:32.23 | Ether | sorry |
21:32.24 | zachary | that's pretty new I take it your a burgandy(sp) |
21:32.39 | Ether | i DREAMof being a burgundy |
21:33.12 | Ether | Im Ether, im in London, new to linux but a win2k sys admin |
21:33.36 | Jenson | I'm Jenson, resident geek girl (or learning at least) |
21:33.49 | Ether | hehe geek = good |
21:33.59 | Jenson | I'm dating dankolb but he isn't here tonight |
21:34.04 | Jenson | He's at FOSDEM |
21:34.16 | Jenson | ibot dankolb |
21:34.16 | | i heard dankolb is not a bot, or hates BTinternet, or a horse, or has a FreeBSD fetish |
21:34.26 | Ether | lol |
21:34.30 | Jenson | ibot Ether |
21:34.31 | | Jenson: I give up, what is it? |
21:34.47 | Jenson | ibot Ether is a Win2K sys admin new to Linux |
21:34.48 | | okay, Jenson |
21:35.12 | Ether | zachary has previously caused me mental damage |
21:35.27 | zachary | What, who me! :) |
21:35.35 | Ether | hehe yes you :) |
21:35.49 | Jenson | zachary is just a silly american linux guy :P |
21:35.56 | Ether | you tried to talk me through alcatel usb setup |
21:36.19 | zachary | how did it work? |
21:36.39 | Ether | well it works. but seems to reset itself at will |
21:36.42 | zachary | Sorry if I caused any confusion |
21:36.49 | Ether | nah was not you |
21:36.54 | Ether | was mandrake bugs! |
21:37.03 | zachary | Weird. |
21:37.03 | Ether | you helped man |
21:37.12 | Jenson | Talking of confusion, does anyone know how to set 'halt' and 'reboot privileges to user? |
21:37.19 | Ether | sorry no |
21:37.20 | zachary | ok, it's nice to know I was at least somewhat useful |
21:37.21 | Jenson | Ether: Which distro you using now? |
21:37.29 | Ether | mandrake 9.0 still |
21:37.33 | Jenson | cool |
21:37.41 | Ether | yeah i like it |
21:37.46 | Jenson | I keep meaning to try Mandrake |
21:37.54 | Ether | i got my radeon 9700pro working now too :) |
21:38.06 | Ether | you should. they need people to buy it :( |
21:38.22 | Ether | i sidestepped the speedtouch problem btw |
21:38.26 | stephen | no, don't do it, spend your money on slackware T-Shirts :) |
21:38.34 | Ether | lol |
21:38.37 | Jenson | stephen: Good idea! |
21:38.54 | Ether | im using smoothwall on an old pc. sweet |
21:39.16 | Ether | works great with the speedtouch |
21:39.49 | stephen | Jenson: giving users sudo access to shutdown will probably work |
21:40.00 | zachary | Jenson: You can pick up some Mandrake disks at install fest. Get Dan in an uproar. |
21:40.15 | Jenson | zachary: I intend to pick up either Knoppix or Debian |
21:40.18 | highbury | zachary: the Belkin Soho kvm switches are pretty cool, you can switch audio also, they do a 2 and 4 port version, but you have to shop around |
21:40.35 | Jenson | stephen: And how do I do that? |
21:40.46 | zachary | thank highbury. |
21:41.01 | stephen | Jenson: ask dan when he comes back :) |
21:41.10 | highbury | Jenson: it depends whether you have "sudo" installed, firstly |
21:41.38 | stephen | well actually, install sudo off the cd and then find a half-decent sudo HOWTO |
21:41.52 | highbury | www.courtesan.com/sudo |
21:42.49 | highbury | however using <alt>-<fn> to a console screen, then typying <ctr><alt><del> works just as well |
21:43.02 | Jenson | True |
21:43.14 | highbury | thought probably should log out of x-windows first is better |
21:43.31 | highbury | Jenson: if you type "sudo" what does it say? |
21:43.38 | stephen | yeah, but you should be able to CTRL+ALT+DEL out of x |
21:43.51 | Jenson | I just CBA to reboot into Win everytime I stop using the PC just coz my parents *might* want it |
21:44.01 | Jenson | I'll teach them how to do it |
21:44.07 | highbury | stephen: no. its <ctrl>+<alt>+<back-space> |
21:44.48 | highbury | Jenson: so you gave your granny your old machine then? |
21:45.08 | stephen | highbury: yeah, that kills X, but under E (and gnome I seem to remember), CTRL+ALT+DEL brings up a logout box which you can just hit enter to exit x |
21:45.16 | zachary | highbury: Have you tried the boot disk? |
21:45.17 | stephen | perhaps KDE does it too |
21:45.52 | highbury | yep stephen, it does too. never noticed before |
21:46.30 | highbury | <ctrl>+<alt>+<back-space> is the traditional old-fashioned way to do it |
21:46.38 | highbury | zachary: not yet |
21:47.17 | highbury | Jenson: just create a crontab entry to reboot machine at 3am :-) |
21:47.46 | Jenson | for Winchester |
21:48.22 | Jenson | Does Linux have automatic firewall like XP? I'm thinking about firewalls, on account of I'd never run Win without one |
21:48.33 | highbury | ahh, the actual key sequences we've been talking about, can all be remapped to other things |
21:48.35 | Jenson | And I dont have a network to set up a seprerate box |
21:49.11 | highbury | Jenson: remember we told you to keep your old pc, and we'd help you set it up.... |
21:49.35 | highbury | yep Linux has firewall stuff built into kernel |
21:49.45 | Jenson | If I get my arse in gear and attempt to get a job, I'd actually be able to afford a network |
21:50.01 | highbury | and plenty of distros have pretty fron-ends to configure them |
21:50.45 | highbury | win-xp firewall is considered a bit of a joke, your far better off with ZoneAlarm |
21:50.59 | Jenson | I used to use zonealarm |
21:51.02 | Jenson | I use outpost now |
21:51.07 | Jenson | And I dont use XP |
21:51.08 | highbury | but best of all is to have a didicated firewall/router box |
21:51.27 | highbury | outpost? |
21:51.35 | Jenson | I'm getting a draft on my legs from the comouter, need to put the case on. |
21:51.43 | Jenson | I found it on cnet or somewhere |
21:51.46 | Jenson | Blocks ads and stuff |
21:52.46 | Ether | bye all |
21:52.46 | Jenson | I really love this whole switching between desktops thing. So much easier to have a few programs in each than everything in one |
21:52.49 | Jenson | bye Ether |
21:53.27 | highbury | setting up a home network is trivial. Network cards cost about £9 each, an 8-port hub £50, cables £20. |
21:53.46 | Jenson | Yeah, and I have £10 right now :) |
21:54.07 | stephen | highbury: i bet you can get a network start kit for less than that |
21:54.25 | highbury | convind your parents its a wise investment, you could all share printers and internet access |
21:54.33 | stephen | that's what i did |
21:55.05 | Jenson | highbury: My parents don't use the internet, and my mother has her own laptop, which she's just been given a brand new printer for |
21:55.09 | highbury | stephen: probably, but I'm quoting maximum figures for 100Mbit network |
21:55.15 | Jenson | And my dad uses the computer aboput once a month |
21:55.31 | stephen | highbury: i see |
21:56.02 | highbury | so whyc are you always complaining about being kicked off the Internet Jenson |
21:56.31 | highbury | an 8 port hub might be a slight extravagance |
21:56.51 | Jenson | highbury: We have one fucking phoneline! |
21:57.08 | Jenson | I want ADSL, but then the whole needing a job thing reoccurs |
21:57.32 | highbury | highbury: that what we've been saying, one computer connects to the internet, the others share connection. No moving of phone line |
21:58.17 | highbury | of course *some* adsl modems do a have ass job of providing sharing |
21:58.25 | Jenson | I only have 2 computers (well my mother has a laptop but she doesnt really let me near it) |
21:58.45 | Jenson | I don't need my other comnputer anymore, I didnt use it anyway, just had it to install Slack on |
21:59.43 | highbury | so leave one computer in Linux running firewall and dialup, add network card that and the other desktop. You mothers laptop probably already has a network connection |
22:00.15 | Jenson | The laptop has an integrated card AFAIK |
22:00.39 | highbury | convert your spare computer to Smoothwall then! It provides a simple firewall solution, with internet sharing and DHCP |
22:00.53 | Jenson | :) Maybe I will at some point |
22:01.22 | highbury | and its another distro for you to try out! :-) |
22:01.38 | Jenson | I've got to install FreeBSD on here aswell |
22:02.05 | highbury | misplaced trust can be dangerous |
22:02.17 | Jenson | True highbury |
22:02.21 | Jenson | As Dan will tell you |
22:04.55 | Jenson | Why is it so quiet tonight, even the people who aren't at fosdem don't seem to be here. |
22:05.25 | highbury | ... and its saturday night with bugger all on TV |
22:05.32 | Jenson | yeah |
22:05.42 | Jenson | Maybe they've got social lives? |
22:07.30 | highbury | sitting with partners watching Thomas Crown Affair |
22:08.33 | zachary | highbury: TCA with Pierce Bronson or the original? |
22:08.38 | highbury | Jenson: So why do you talk about trying so many different distros, but hardly seem to actually use Linux? |
22:09.06 | highbury | zachary: Pierse brother of Cahrles |
22:09.16 | highbury | Charles Bronson that is |
22:10.09 | highbury | you need to stick with one distro longer, perhaps |
22:12.08 | Jenson | highbury: I never used Linux coz I had no internet xonnection on it |
22:12.11 | Jenson | but now I did |
22:12.20 | Jenson | I do even |
22:12.37 | Jenson | I don't intend to change distro I'm just ralking aboutn ones I intended to use |
22:12.58 | highbury | well done, it can be difficult to initially connect |
22:13.27 | Jenson | highbury: The problem was my dad kept refusing to extend the phone lines like he said he would |
22:13.48 | Jenson | And my mother wouldnt let me format this machine coz she always wanted it |
22:13.57 | Jenson | Then she got her laptop so I've kinda taken this over |
22:14.06 | Jenson | Didn't your ISP do 2hr d/c |
22:14.11 | highbury | that's cool |
22:14.51 | highbury | nope, they happily let me stay connected for 2 days, so BT billed me for £30 just for that connection! |
22:15.32 | Jenson | Oh, fun |
22:15.48 | Jenson | That happened to a mate in a 24hr connection when her modem got killed by lightening |
22:18.10 | highbury | she was lucky it was only the modem! Usually the whole computer + phone extensions that get killed |
22:18.39 | Jenson | I'm not sure what happened, but I seem to remember it blew out half the back of the computer |
22:18.40 | highbury | and I did hear once in America of somebody who got killed that way! |
22:18.44 | Jenson | I never actually saw it. |
22:29.30 | highbury | your message said you were back gone 20 mins, when it was actually a few seconds less that 10 minutes |
22:30.16 | Jenson | Well, I was kinda talking whilst I was away :) |
22:32.10 | highbury | I wonder, all this technology which make super powerfull and quiet computer fans.... could that be applied to extractor fans for houses? |
22:32.43 | Jenson | highbury: That would defeat the object of having fans that irritate you when you try to have a bath :) |
22:33.41 | highbury | exactly! |
22:33.49 | Jenson | Where do files downloaded from Konqueror go? |
22:34.27 | zimm | /home/~user/ ? |
22:34.36 | Jenson | Not that I could see |
22:34.56 | highbury | ~/Documents |
22:35.01 | zimm | it should ask when you start dloading , |
22:35.21 | highbury | true |
22:35.37 | Jenson | It didnt |
22:35.43 | Jenson | And I nearly crashed X then |
22:36.20 | Jenson | Not that it matter, as I have no idea how to extract/install files in Linux |
22:36.33 | highbury | LOL |
22:36.41 | zimm | what are yoiu trying to do Jenson ? |
22:37.06 | Jenson | zimm: Nothing actually, I think I had too much shit loaded |
22:37.20 | zimm | ok np |
22:37.34 | Jenson | I crash Win like that on a regular basis |
22:37.51 | zimm | mm , linux shoulnt crash thoulgh |
22:38.14 | Jenson | I've only properly crashed X once since Novemeber :) |
22:38.38 | zimm | hehe , ok , well thats better than me lol .. |
22:38.48 | highbury | X can sometimes be unstable |
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22:39.42 | highbury | mostly I've found problems if I set the screensaver to random mode. Some of the choices caused problems, so now I stick to ones which don't cause problems |
22:39.42 | Jenson | hey new2unix |
22:39.51 | new2unix | hi all |
22:40.00 | zimm | hey new2unix |
22:40.15 | new2unix | missed much? |
22:40.39 | Jenson | nope |
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22:40.53 | new2unix | woops |
22:41.01 | new2unix | how did i do that? |
22:41.15 | Jenson | Close button? |
22:41.19 | new2unix | haha |
22:41.48 | Jenson | new2unix: Don't worry I've just d/led a file and I have no idea where its saved it |
22:42.13 | new2unix | am on ebay in search of "Unix System Administration Handbook". Anybody got a copy to sell/give away? |
22:44.55 | highbury | Jenson: find / -mtime -1 -ls |
22:46.03 | Jenson | Lovely, that's nearly all on thw Win partition |
22:47.29 | highbury | Jenson: find / -xdev -mtime -1 -ls |
22:48.28 | new2unix | ok. the first set of commands i understood. but this one looks kinda odd. what does -xdev mean? |
22:48.50 | highbury | Jenson: find / -xdev -cmin -60 -ls |
22:49.17 | new2unix | 'man find' ? |
22:49.24 | highbury | -xdev means stay on the partition specified, ie. don't stray onto other mounted stuff |
22:49.46 | new2unix | cool. |
22:49.58 | Jenson | That's a good one to know |
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22:54.01 | new2unix_ | <PROTECTED> |
22:54.09 | Jenson | :) |
22:58.34 | Jenson | A am I zimm |
22:58.40 | Jenson | s/A/As |
22:58.48 | zimm | :) |
23:00.17 | new2unix | night all. |
23:00.32 | Jenson | night new2unix |
23:00.44 | zimm | laters new2unix |
23:13.48 | Jenson | Ah, well, time for some sleep |
23:13.53 | Jenson | See you guys tomorrow |
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23:23.30 | zimm | <PROTECTED> |
23:24.13 | BorgBaby | ? |
23:24.26 | zimm | name that ch00n |
23:24.49 | stephen | well, it doesn't sound like a beatles song to me... |
23:24.54 | BorgBaby | can't say i know it |
23:25.25 | zimm | On the Turning away , from Momentary lapse of reason -- Pink Floyd |
23:25.58 | zimm | it was actually pasted into the wrong window , but it made a nice little spot pop trivia quiz for ya .. |
23:26.16 | BorgBaby | ;) |
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23:39.46 | zachary | i'm off to bed, goodnight. |
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23:44.21 | formi | im back |
23:44.24 | zimm | hey formi |
23:44.31 | formi | hold your pants |
23:46.38 | formi | that was in case i was sounding too lovely |
23:47.16 | highbury | re |
23:47.48 | formi | highbury did you manage to install freebsd? |
23:48.56 | zimm | laters |
23:48.59 | *** part/#gllug zimm (~plato@public2-bror1-4-cust195.bror.broadband.ntl.com) |