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00:25.35 | resuDaed_ssh | evening stephen |
00:26.02 | stephen | evening resuDaed_ssh |
00:26.19 | resuDaed_ssh | just got back from work :-) |
00:26.29 | stephen | damn, that's a long day |
00:26.38 | resuDaed_ssh | got to leave 6am tomorrow morning again :) |
00:26.49 | stephen | where are you working? |
00:26.55 | stephen | what are you doing? |
00:27.10 | resuDaed_ssh | all over the place, today was bar work @ a hotel |
00:27.19 | stephen | ok |
00:27.32 | stephen | i dunno whether or not to get a job |
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00:27.39 | resuDaed_ssh | tomorrow till Friday, I'm not entirly sure what I am doing, more industrial though ... over in Staples Corner |
00:28.11 | stephen | i'd appreciate the extra money, but i don't really want to mix work and studying |
00:28.19 | resuDaed_ssh | Saturday, I need to spend the entire day with my gf ... probably the most stressful day of the week |
00:28.31 | stephen | :( |
00:28.32 | resuDaed_ssh | (and expensive) |
00:28.46 | resuDaed_ssh | I love her really, ut I need to sleep |
00:29.15 | stephen | see, being a geek, i've always avoided gf expenses |
00:29.17 | stephen | :) |
00:29.35 | stephen | yeah, i really could do with catching up on some sleep too, nn |
00:29.51 | resuDaed_ssh | well, I have a rare one, not a geek herself, but er 2 older brothers are ... therefore she has learnt to apprecaite them |
00:30.16 | stephen | ah, makes it easier I suppose |
00:30.48 | resuDaed_ssh | still gets annoyed when I visit her @ her parents, and I disappear into her brothers room ... and start talking technical |
00:31.35 | stephen | lol, not I suppose most non-geeks wouldn't like that one bit |
00:32.29 | resuDaed_ssh | anyway, I have to be up in 5 hours so I'd better disappear of to bed .. working 70ish hours a week doesn't leave much time for being geekish at the moment |
00:32.41 | stephen | no, nn resuDaed_ssh |
00:32.45 | resuDaed_ssh | night |
00:32.57 | stephen | night |
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01:31.21 | eye69 | resuDaed: Shouldn't you be getting to bed? :) |
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08:38.55 | zachary | good morning |
08:54.06 | dank_work | Morning |
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09:46.06 | davilion | morning all |
09:46.12 | dank_work | Morning |
09:46.29 | davilion | hows are you? |
09:47.30 | dank_work | I'm okay |
09:49.12 | dank_work | You? |
09:49.25 | davilion | not so bad |
09:49.29 | davilion | just getting ready to go to leeds |
09:49.56 | dank_work | I thought you were going to Leeds on Friday |
09:50.17 | davilion | i got to leeds lots these days |
09:50.41 | davilion | going to go to york as well today, and drop off a backup drive |
09:51.47 | dank_work | Do you spend most of your time up north, then? |
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09:53.13 | davilion | at the moment yes but its changing soon once my secondment runs out |
09:53.30 | dank_work | what happens then? |
09:53.40 | davilion | not sure, i guess i'll be in the office and london more |
09:53.51 | davilion | but still a lot of driving up and down |
09:54.05 | dank_work | Ah, okay. |
09:54.26 | davilion | anybody else find gcc 3.2.2 really slow? |
09:54.53 | dank_work | Dunno. I'm using 2.95.4 |
09:54.59 | dank_work | But have gcc3.1 installed |
09:55.05 | dank_work | (probably OOo needed it) |
09:57.06 | dpash | morn |
09:57.13 | dank_work | Morning |
09:57.43 | dpash | be nice to me |
09:57.50 | dank_work | Does it smell that bad? |
09:57.59 | dpash | dank_work: I'll swap with you |
09:58.22 | dank_work | Sure. I still have a cold :) |
09:58.26 | dank_work | Although it's almost over |
09:59.05 | dpash | so you'll have my cold for your scsi drive? |
09:59.12 | dank_work | No |
09:59.24 | dank_work | I'll swap colds, though |
10:05.24 | Huhn | moin |
10:05.47 | dpash | morning |
10:06.49 | Tarragon | re |
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10:25.31 | zachary | dank_work: Just to let you know, I took the "Which OS are you?" quize (bbspot.com/News/2003/01/os_quiz.php). It said I was a Slackware user. |
10:29.20 | dpash | Mojo Jojo |
10:30.08 | Huhn | urrrghs |
10:30.26 | Huhn | I'm Apple DOS 3.1 :(( |
10:31.31 | dpash | If I end up Windows ME, someone is going to be hurting ;) |
10:31.40 | dpash | doh Apple DOS 3.1 |
10:32.38 | Tarragon | OS/2 ! Hurrah. Always knew I could trust the Elephant. |
10:33.41 | Huhn | at least I'm not a Win sth.. |
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10:34.15 | zachary | morning SpudUAway |
10:35.55 | SpudUAway | Hi Zach. |
11:02.01 | zachary | brb |
11:07.13 | highbury | morning |
11:13.57 | murb | moin |
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11:16.37 | stephen | woohoo! the sparc actually works! |
11:20.25 | dank_work | BWAH! |
11:20.52 | stephen | anyone know much a cheap crossover cable costs? |
11:21.17 | dank_work | Depends where you get it from |
11:21.28 | dank_work | You should be able to get one from your computing services, possibly |
11:21.31 | highbury | Maplins £4.99 (guessing) |
11:21.47 | stephen | ok cheers highbury & dank_work |
11:22.11 | highbury | actually I saw they sold a nice dongle to convert an ordinary cable to cross-over |
11:22.39 | stephen | yeah, but I don't even have any normal straight-through cables |
11:22.54 | stephen | except for the one I use to connect to the uni's network with |
11:23.04 | dank_work | With my laptop, I don't need to care |
11:23.07 | dank_work | It automatically switches :) |
11:23.36 | stephen | yeah, but I have a feeling that a sparc station 10 wouldn't |
11:24.23 | dank_work | True |
11:25.01 | dank_work | Try going up to Sinoco on the Headington Roundabout |
11:25.42 | stephen | ok will do, but i'll check the Computing Services hardware place first |
11:27.39 | dank_work | Okay |
11:39.42 | dank_work | Right. http://testme.eco.li/screenshot_work1.jpg |
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11:57.33 | stephen | nice desktop there dan |
12:06.15 | dank_work | Thanks :) |
12:12.07 | dank_work | The colour on that screenshot is correct, too :) |
12:13.14 | stephen | here's mine http://wwwusers.brookes.ac.uk/02164690/desktop.png |
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12:14.47 | stephen | it's stupid, they give us just 3mb for our home directory, but 5mb for our web directory |
12:14.48 | dank_work | Interesting... |
12:15.04 | dank_work | So store stuff in your web directory |
12:15.18 | stephen | we aren't permitted to |
12:16.09 | stephen | apparenly they'll remove our directory if they catch us, but I doubt they're really looking |
12:16.14 | murb | stephen: so get an account on that silly linnux box then if it still exists. |
12:16.38 | stephen | which silly linux box? |
12:17.48 | stephen | anyway, all pooled PCs have zip drives in them, which should do once I leave halls and therefore can't transfer files by ftp |
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12:22.31 | dank_work | Hello steev |
12:22.38 | murb | stephen: and your zip disk will last any length of time in random zip drives? |
12:22.40 | steev | morin' |
12:22.47 | dank_work | Afternoon |
12:23.03 | murb | stephen: i thought there was a random project at brookes with a student looked after linux box. |
12:23.10 | murb | their certianly used to be. |
12:23.15 | murb | s/their/there/ |
12:23.22 | murb | dank: indeed. |
12:23.31 | stephen | yeah, shinji, but it seems to be a hush-hush kind of project |
12:23.32 | dank_work | So it should be a GNU/Linux box |
12:23.52 | murb | but not to loud, you never know who will be googling for those initals |
12:23.52 | SpudUAway | steev? |
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12:24.07 | steev | aye |
12:24.12 | dpash | freenode is playing up for me |
12:24.12 | murb | dank: unless it was running darwin or somthing... |
12:24.29 | murb | dank: said person. |
12:24.31 | dank_work | murb: Then it wouldn't be a Linux box... |
12:24.40 | stephen | i only found out about shinji after a kinda random email I sent to a member of staff |
12:25.03 | stephen | anyway, it seems as if its down currently |
12:25.40 | SpudUAway | You still at work then Steev? |
12:26.08 | dank_work | Is Steev the Steev who was with our FOSDEM group? |
12:27.00 | SpudUAway | dank_work: Dunno, that Steev neve uses IRC? So it can't be! |
12:27.07 | SpudUAway | Or can it??? |
12:27.13 | steev | It can be... |
12:27.28 | dank_work | You are, then? |
12:27.30 | SpudUAway | Kewl. |
12:27.38 | dank_work | Oh good :) |
12:27.41 | steev | ...although it's very bad for my health. |
12:27.45 | SpudUAway | We might have to settle for an 'it might be!'. |
12:28.00 | steev | Not that anyone can sack me for wasting my time here now :) |
12:28.03 | dank_work | It was the butler! |
12:28.05 | SpudUAway | stephen: Did you do it? |
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12:28.17 | dank_work | Hey Dave |
12:28.19 | Clyphox | Hiya |
12:28.24 | dpash | hi steev |
12:28.25 | stephen | SpudUAway: that, of course, depends on what 'it' you're refering to |
12:29.01 | dpash | anyone been to central London today? |
12:29.07 | dank_work | Nope |
12:29.08 | dank_work | Why? |
12:29.12 | steev | CC |
12:29.17 | SpudUAway | Me. |
12:29.21 | dank_work | CC? |
12:29.34 | steev | Congestion Charge |
12:29.38 | dank_work | Ah. |
12:29.47 | SpudUAway | Quiet, apart from the hundreds of helicopters flying overhead looking for a news story. |
12:29.51 | steev | I fancied getting a photograph of every junction, replete with congestion |
12:29.59 | steev | make a good double spread in 2morrows papers |
12:30.01 | stephen | radio2 said that traffic was flowing very well in the centre |
12:30.03 | dank_work | Am I sad? |
12:30.09 | stephen | dank_work: very! |
12:30.13 | dank_work | :) |
12:30.23 | dank_work | Thank you. |
12:30.28 | stephen | yw |
12:30.28 | SpudUAway | But it always does on school holidays. |
12:30.34 | steev | I see you[r|'re] sad, and raise you "dancing on the tables" sad :) |
12:30.38 | Tarragon | STEEV! How did you take getting fired ? :-) |
12:30.45 | steev | I didn't - I resigned |
12:30.55 | dank_work | you're == you are |
12:31.01 | dank_work | your == belonging to you |
12:31.09 | dank_work | My sad doesn't belong to me. |
12:31.19 | steev | ALl your sad are belong to us |
12:31.20 | steev | [sorry] |
12:31.43 | murb | which country? |
12:31.48 | SpudUAway | 'your' sad, from which steev is raising you, surely. |
12:32.14 | murb | although I supposed i should have asked county. |
12:32.15 | dank_work | The country that most of us are currently in |
12:32.19 | SpudUAway | I took it to be a poker reference. |
12:33.48 | steev | 'twas a poker reference |
12:34.08 | steev | (the you're was a friendly agreement of sad-ness) |
12:34.13 | dank_work | :) |
12:34.17 | dank_work | Okay |
12:34.25 | SpudUAway | Then, Shirley, it's 'your sad [hand]'? |
12:34.27 | steev | combined in an unclever, unfunny but technically competant manner |
12:34.39 | dank_work | compet*e*nt |
12:38.33 | Tarragon | We are GLLUG we are never really sad. Well maybe a bit depressed when the kernel does not compile, but deep down so happy 'cos we know we don't use Slack^H^H^H^H^H MS! |
12:39.26 | SpudUAway | steev, are you still on active service then, or have they stuck you in a back room with an internet connection to keep you out of trouble? |
12:39.36 | Tarragon | Oww |
12:39.41 | stephen | with a slackware install cd, i'd like to add |
12:39.56 | dank_work | :-) |
12:40.08 | stephen | haha, i now have slackware on my SPARC too |
12:40.25 | dank_work | Good :) |
12:40.31 | Tarragon | Bad! |
12:40.47 | stephen | anyone know how to check if the OS is utilizing both CPUs in a machine> |
12:40.48 | SpudUAway | That's below the belt. |
12:40.48 | Tarragon | I completely surrender. |
12:40.52 | Huhn | dank_work: uuuuah, that's bad |
12:41.01 | dank_work | cat /proc/cpuinfo ? |
12:41.08 | dank_work | Heh :) |
12:42.09 | stephen | dank_work: cheers, damn, it's not, looks like I need a smp kernel |
12:42.32 | dank_work | Time to compile... |
12:43.10 | stephen | dank_work: nah, seeing I only have a 500mb hard drive, i didn't install any of the d series, hopefully there's one on the cd |
12:43.20 | dank_work | Maybe... |
12:44.32 | stephen | there's only one way to find out... |
12:44.40 | dank_work | Mount it! |
12:45.53 | dank_work | :) |
12:46.01 | dank_work | Modern laptop or desktop? |
12:46.31 | stephen | heavy modern laptop |
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12:47.20 | dank_work | Sounds reasonable, really |
12:48.01 | stephen | yeah, it would be, except it has a mandrake install disk in it ;( |
12:48.59 | stephen | and a hammer i hope ;) |
12:49.15 | dank_work | Try snapping it in your hands first |
12:51.15 | gj | :) |
12:52.36 | stephen | probably not as satisfying |
12:52.45 | dank_work | It can be |
12:52.55 | dank_work | Haven't you ever tried crushing a floppy disk in your hand? |
12:53.43 | stephen | yeah, point made |
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12:55.05 | stephen | like janet ;) |
12:55.09 | dank_work | Yup |
12:57.02 | stephen | yeah, i certainly will next year |
13:00.41 | dank_work | Get NTL and whinge on the OxLUG list about them. |
13:00.44 | dank_work | Everyone else does :) |
13:01.29 | Clyphox|work | f2s owns |
13:01.55 | stephen | dank_work: yeah, I noticed |
13:02.35 | stephen | people have been recommending nildram for adsl, but I'll have to see how many pennies I have left over for thnings like internet next year |
13:03.20 | dank_work | Clyphox|work: don't you mean '0wnZ!'? |
13:03.35 | dank_work | There's always enough pennies for Internet |
13:07.05 | dank_work | Can you live without IRC? |
13:07.30 | Clyphox|work | I just like f2s |
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13:08.07 | Clyphox|work | I tihnk in general the smaller ISP's are better as they tend to have less load.. |
13:08.10 | dank_work | They provide me with an Internet connection that just works. |
13:08.17 | dank_work | OTOH, bigger ISPs have more equipment |
13:08.39 | Clyphox|work | Like Blueyonders UrbanTerror servers.. hehe |
13:08.45 | dank_work | :) |
13:08.59 | Clyphox|work | eek.. gtg.. |
13:09.06 | dank_work | Bossman? |
13:09.11 | Clyphox|work | y |
13:09.43 | dank_work | (* quickly flicks over to his email screen) |
13:24.54 | SpudUAway | murb: Why, do you think it has changed? |
13:25.48 | murb | SpudUAway: sorry that was OOB |
13:26.45 | SpudUAway | 'Out of Bounds'? |
13:31.38 | murb | Out Of Band |
13:31.42 | Clyphox|work | Work is overrated |
13:33.21 | dank_work | Maybe that'll make you happier? |
13:33.26 | Tarragon | Anyone going to the UKUUG winter conf? |
13:33.34 | Clyphox|work | er padi |
13:33.35 | dank_work | Plenty of people |
13:33.36 | Clyphox|work | er paid |
13:33.43 | Clyphox|work | WHere is it? |
13:34.00 | dank_work | In nodnoL |
13:34.02 | Huhn | Tarragon: cannot afford it :( |
13:34.07 | Clyphox|work | when? |
13:34.28 | Tarragon | Institue of Physics London 18 - 19 Feb |
13:34.49 | Clyphox|work | Damn I'm working all day on both.. |
13:34.55 | Clyphox|work | damn damn damn.. |
13:35.08 | Clyphox|work | This always happens too me :(( |
13:35.15 | Clyphox|work | I Hate Mondays.. |
13:35.21 | dank_work | Awww |
13:35.36 | Clyphox|work | I can't drink at work :(((( |
13:35.44 | Clyphox|work | Not even Cofee!! :(( |
13:35.48 | Clyphox|work | [Sob] |
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13:35.59 | dank_work | What!? |
13:36.03 | Clyphox|work | jk |
13:36.06 | dank_work | That's below the belt! :) |
13:36.13 | Clyphox|work | A bit extreme I know.. |
13:36.25 | dank_work | You can drink coffee, can't you? |
13:36.38 | murb | it is very expensive |
13:36.45 | murb | the ukuug thingi. |
13:37.10 | stephen | woohoo, both cpus are online |
13:38.42 | Clyphox|work | What ya got? |
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13:38.59 | stephen | dual 50Mhz SPARC ;) |
13:39.06 | Clyphox|work | I got dual Copermines :) Hard drive died last night.. (this happens alot to me..) |
13:39.13 | Clyphox|work | Wow.. I'm jealous |
13:39.17 | dank_work | D'oh! |
13:39.20 | stephen | yeah, i know |
13:39.23 | Clyphox|work | Ohh.. |
13:39.37 | Clyphox|work | Anyone know if/how/where I can get and run Solaris on x86? |
13:39.44 | stephen | i've had like 3 drives die in a couple of years |
13:40.04 | stephen | it sucks |
13:40.16 | Clyphox|work | I've had many die this YEAR |
13:40.33 | dank_work | www.sun.com |
13:40.43 | dank_work | You can get it, but it'll cost you about $20 |
13:40.56 | dank_work | Alternatively, I have a copy of Solaris8 at home (which I haven't yet tried) |
13:40.58 | Clyphox|work | They stoped supporting it afaik.. |
13:41.13 | Clyphox|work | That would be nice... much cheaper too heheh |
13:41.37 | Clyphox|work | Alas only x86 crud in my house :( (barr my delapidated macs) |
13:41.50 | dank_work | Sure. |
13:41.56 | dank_work | Maybe I should try if it works first... |
13:41.58 | Clyphox|work | I nearly won a ss20 on ebay once.. :(( |
13:42.22 | Clyphox|work | I actually downloaded the demo over a year ago but never found time to try it out.. |
13:42.31 | stephen | sun i think got bored of people bitching to them about the demise of x86 solaris, so I think solaris 9 for x86 does exist, somewhere |
13:42.40 | Clyphox|work | Just want to put it under my belt.. know I won't like it like NetBSD |
13:43.02 | dank_work | stephen: It does. And available for download or something |
13:43.30 | stephen | Clyphox|work: me and a mate got 4 SS10s from a 'remarketing' firm in south oxfordshire, they had no idea what they were really |
13:43.56 | stephen | including keyboards, mice, and speakers, all for 40 notes, not bad |
13:44.32 | Clyphox|work | Selling any? |
13:44.52 | Clyphox|work | Use it at home as a firewall/webserver :) |
13:54.57 | dank_work | Not working any more? |
13:55.04 | Clyphox | no.. |
13:55.05 | Clyphox | I feel more civilzed now.. |
13:55.09 | Clyphox | thats all :) |
13:55.10 | dank_work | :) |
13:55.37 | dank_work | Whee! Alter.Net is fucked up YET AGAIN! |
13:55.48 | stephen | Clyphox: nah, just to mess around with, there are probably loads in similar firms if you have the time to look at their websites + ebay |
13:55.48 | dank_work | What completely incompetent muppets run that place? |
14:02.15 | Clyphox | hmmm.. pizza.. |
14:02.22 | Clyphox | theres a great little joint here that sells them for a quid each! :) |
14:02.41 | dank_work | Nice :) |
14:03.14 | Clyphox | daed_resu knows about it gladly :) |
14:07.44 | Clyphox | hmmm beef |
14:07.47 | Clyphox | hmmm ham |
14:07.52 | Clyphox | hmmm garlic... |
14:08.00 | Clyphox | hmmm FRESH garlic... |
14:08.45 | dank_work | :) |
14:10.16 | Clyphox | Damn anything that costs a pound and takes this long too eat is good :-) |
14:10.48 | dank_work | heh |
14:12.52 | Clyphox | I'm a jobless NooB |
14:13.36 | dank_work | Aww :) |
14:14.22 | Clyphox | how does I geteth a blessed job with unix? |
14:15.12 | dpash | Clyphox: you much experience? |
14:15.57 | dank_work | What's your job currently? |
14:16.07 | Clyphox | 3 years networking with linux/doze and just about everything hardware.. |
14:16.31 | Clyphox | I Make/support/fix Small bussiness Linux server.. |
14:16.32 | dpash | Clyphox: shouldn;t bee too hard |
14:16.41 | Clyphox | sendmail/samba/pppd crap |
14:16.55 | dank_work | You should be okay, hopefully. |
14:17.00 | Clyphox | :( |
14:17.06 | dpash | Clyphox: phone some of the IT adgencies |
14:17.32 | dank_work | yeah. Call some slave-traders |
14:17.35 | Clyphox | hehe |
14:17.39 | Clyphox | what sould I say? |
14:17.51 | Clyphox | I don't even know "what" I am.. (jobwise) |
14:17.53 | dank_work | Hello, I want a Unix admin job |
14:17.56 | dpash | I should warn you that jobs are a little scarce atm |
14:18.03 | dpash | Clyphox: what dank_work says |
14:18.06 | Clyphox | Year.. I'm ok with Xbsd I suppose.. |
14:18.22 | dank_work | Do you have much experience of Solaris? |
14:18.22 | dpash | helps to be direct |
14:18.29 | dpash | rather than shifty nod-nod-wink-wink stylee |
14:18.58 | Clyphox | No thats why I would like to try it out.. |
14:19.10 | dank_work | Ah. Get some. :) |
14:19.22 | dank_work | And maybe Irix, too, if you can |
14:19.24 | dpash | Clyphox: I have a copy of 7 here if you want to borrow it |
14:19.54 | dpash | Will have to wait until the installfest |
14:19.54 | dank_work | vigorously |
14:19.56 | dank_work | HTH |
14:19.58 | Clyphox | er.. not really.. too lazy.. |
14:20.00 | Clyphox | hehe |
14:20.31 | dpash | it is about 3 years old |
14:20.34 | dpash | oh and you can;t use it to develop nuclear weapons |
14:20.41 | dank_work | Damn. |
14:21.13 | dank_work | Clyphox: Try to get as much experience of as many different Unix types as possible. |
14:21.17 | dank_work | And non-Unix, too. |
14:21.34 | dpash | I have a copy of QNX and BeOS too |
14:21.40 | dank_work | Good :) |
14:21.51 | Clyphox | I beosMax |
14:22.03 | Clyphox | and that one floppy QNX demo hehe |
14:22.10 | Clyphox | Never burnt the ISO |
14:22.26 | dpash | god w2k AS install takes ages to format 40Gb |
14:22.42 | Clyphox | Lol.. I did that last week! |
14:22.48 | dank_work | :) |
14:23.09 | dpash | I did have a OS X i386 install CD somewhere |
14:23.21 | Clyphox | I have 4 OS'es on my laptop.. working on getting more one.. and UML :-) |
14:23.25 | dpash | it was basically dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/dev/had |
14:23.35 | Clyphox | !! I want it now!! |
14:23.42 | Clyphox | j/k |
14:23.43 | dank_work | dpash: You mean, Darwin/x86? |
14:23.55 | dpash | thats the one. I couldn;t remember the name of the kernel |
14:24.07 | dank_work | OS X is the complete Darwin+Aqua |
14:24.12 | dank_work | Okay. Who wants OpenStep, then? |
14:24.16 | dank_work | (NeXT for i386) |
14:24.19 | Clyphox | I have never worked with micro kernels.. |
14:24.21 | Clyphox | me!! |
14:24.23 | dpash | that was from about 1 year ago too |
14:24.32 | Clyphox | I really really want it! |
14:24.34 | dpash | anyone remember how much ibuprofen you can have in 24 hour period? |
14:24.38 | Clyphox | and os2 |
14:24.53 | Clyphox | do you know how hard it is too find these things (just to try) on gnutella |
14:25.30 | dank_work | dpash: About 6 tablets? |
14:25.50 | dpash | dank_work: that doesn't help as I have some fat single tablet things |
14:25.54 | dank_work | Ah |
14:26.17 | dpash | 24x400mg |
14:26.17 | dpash | instead of 16x200mg |
14:27.20 | dank_work | Ah |
14:28.37 | Clyphox | I like tablets |
14:28.49 | Clyphox | very nice for drawing with(muhaha) |
14:29.04 | Clyphox | (worry for me.. I'm at work and its Monday and I need sleep) |
14:29.49 | dank_work | :) |
14:30.14 | dank_work | Right. It's in bin/cue format (Openstep) |
14:30.35 | dpash | ping |
14:30.41 | Clyphox | You can burn em under linux fourtunatly |
14:30.43 | dank_work | pong |
14:30.48 | dank_work | Yeah... |
14:30.50 | dpash | that was close |
14:30.54 | dank_work | Maybe Toast under OS X will work |
14:30.57 | dpash | got to about 85seconds lag |
14:33.33 | Clyphox | phone |
14:33.49 | dank_work | HELLO? |
14:35.18 | dpash | ? |
14:37.34 | Clyphox | I thought NextStep died entirely long ago.. |
14:37.49 | dank_work | Nah. Some of it is in OS X |
14:37.56 | Clyphox | I wonder where I can buy old Next boxen.. they look gr8 |
14:38.04 | dank_work | ePay |
14:38.14 | dank_work | You'd be lucky to get some. I'm still waiting to get one from Physics.ox |
14:39.19 | murb | dank: are you on the waiting list? |
14:39.22 | dank_work | Yup |
14:39.28 | dank_work | I asked Charles last OxLUG |
14:39.39 | dank_work | He said they were still keeping some spares going |
14:39.45 | dank_work | But he'll let me know... |
14:40.15 | Clyphox | gluck |
14:40.29 | Clyphox | bloody mail servers.. |
14:40.52 | Clyphox | I don't even get given a chance how to do it.. can't even get my boss to get full dns control.. gah.. |
14:41.01 | dank_work | thanks |
14:41.06 | dank_work | Heh |
14:41.29 | Clyphox | I gotta do it now, well and at not cost.. |
14:41.39 | Clyphox | er not=no |
14:42.17 | dank_work | :) |
14:42.32 | Clyphox|gah | You think dis it beink funny punk! |
14:42.37 | Clyphox|gah | j/k |
14:45.30 | dank_work | have fun |
15:18.42 | dpash | installed win2k server and then it wouldn;t accept any admin password. now reinstalling |
15:18.50 | dank_work | D'oh |
15:18.55 | dank_work | Maybe you entered it wrong? |
15:19.35 | dpash | twince? |
15:19.47 | dank_work | Maybe... |
15:19.50 | dank_work | It happens |
15:20.12 | dpash | now waiting 30mintes to format 40Gb again |
15:20.34 | dank_work | Do you have to check for bad sectors? |
15:21.55 | dpash | don't know |
15:22.03 | dpash | what ever the installer does |
15:22.59 | dank_work | :) |
15:36.27 | dank_work | wb |
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15:39.24 | Clyphox | ta |
15:45.25 | dank_work | :) |
15:45.37 | Clyphox | wb |
15:46.20 | dpash | sadly we have email pop boxes with them |
15:46.20 | dpash | hopefully they will be going soon |
15:46.24 | dpash | but we are getting a sat service in this week |
15:46.30 | dpash | so all should be well |
15:46.51 | dank_work | Good luck... |
15:47.08 | dpash | nah we know this setup works |
15:47.19 | dpash | we tested it for 3 weeks over christmas |
15:47.33 | dpash | we get 600ms latency pretty much all the time |
15:47.53 | dpash | unlike the BT service which could go up to 16000ms at times |
15:48.04 | dpash | yes that figure is correct (16seconds) |
15:48.13 | dank_work | eek |
15:49.18 | dpash | you can say that again |
15:49.31 | dank_work | eek |
15:49.37 | dpash | and the bandwidth was so bad, my irc connection would die for no reason with no other traffic in the middle of the night |
15:49.45 | dpash | you can say that again |
15:50.06 | dank_work | I kept getting disconnected every 5 minutes |
15:50.25 | dank_work | Sometimes it'd take me about 6 or 7 goes to reconnect |
15:50.33 | dpash | dank_work: you have BT sat service? |
15:50.33 | dpash | s/have/had/ |
15:50.42 | dank_work | No. I had their modem (dis)service |
15:51.03 | dpash | that is what we are using atm |
15:51.27 | dpash | last week was crap, but I replaced the modem over the weekend and we have had much better service |
15:51.37 | HuhnWRITE | anyone interested in a Geek-Ski-Trip to Tux? (last week of March) |
15:52.02 | dank_work | hm |
15:52.04 | dpash | Phil has already ask me |
15:52.08 | dank_work | HuhnWRITE: To Tux? |
15:52.13 | dpash | can't afford it after brussels |
15:52.21 | HuhnWRITE | dank_work: that's a village in Austria ;) |
15:52.26 | dank_work | Ahh :) |
15:52.33 | dpash | that isn;t the full name iirc |
15:52.37 | dpash | but it ends in tux |
15:52.51 | HuhnWRITE | it's called Hintertux, but the valley is called Tuxertal (valley of Tux) |
15:53.46 | dpash | it does look cool. last week they had about 6-8 interested people |
15:53.55 | HuhnWRITE | at the mom I have: |
15:54.04 | HuhnWRITE | 7 definite, 4 maybes |
15:54.18 | dpash | http://www.hands.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geekski |
15:54.23 | HuhnWRITE | si |
15:55.21 | dpash | HuhnWRITE: are you going then? |
15:55.30 | HuhnWRITE | dpash: I'm the organising chicken ;) |
15:55.42 | HuhnWRITE | of course I will go |
15:55.57 | murb | isn't skiing quite expensive? |
15:56.04 | dpash | esp after I think you told me last week |
15:56.18 | dpash | murb: yes esp in milton keynes |
15:56.26 | HuhnWRITE | murb: depends.. I've managed to arrange cheap accomodation, of course the skiing pass and the travel costs.. |
15:56.40 | murb | dpash: wycombe summit isn't far from here, but i don't think it has much snow ... |
15:56.48 | murb | although they have had atleast 1 fatality |
15:59.15 | dpash | HuhnWRITE: I blame the fact I have a cold for being dumb today |
15:59.22 | dpash | murb: milton keynes has snow |
16:00.05 | dpash | and the french ex-dome boss bloke |
16:00.45 | murb | dpash: it is doomed the. |
16:00.47 | murb | n |
16:01.30 | murb | dpash: you didn't come to the GLLUG picnic at BP? |
16:01.32 | dpash | probably |
16:02.02 | dpash | british petrolum? |
16:02.05 | dpash | murb: no I found out about it at about 1:30 |
16:02.09 | dpash | start was 12:00 |
16:02.30 | dpash | is only 25min drive from here |
16:02.57 | dpash | I wasn't only the list at the time |
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16:09.17 | dpash___ | anyone recommend a dialup service? |
16:12.33 | murb | no. |
16:12.40 | murb | they all suck. |
16:13.33 | dank_work | But they're 0845 |
16:14.58 | dpash___ | someone just killed a HP LJ4050tn |
16:15.53 | dpash___ | they fucked the on-off switch and now they can;t turn it on |
16:16.06 | dpash | lusers |
16:16.29 | dpash | and guess who has to fix it now? |
16:16.57 | dank_work | Yours truly? |
16:17.15 | dpash | yep |
16:17.18 | dpash | or my boss |
16:18.36 | dank_work | heh |
16:19.10 | dpash | they've just managed to turn the thing on, but the switch is still knackered |
16:19.16 | dpash | w2k server let me log on that time |
16:19.23 | dank_work | Good :) |
16:21.02 | Clyphox | We get lots of ID ten T errors here... |
16:24.17 | dank_work | All places do |
16:45.15 | Clyphox | custerom |
16:45.18 | Clyphox | asdasd |
16:46.16 | dank_work | wha? |
16:48.46 | Clyphox | customer.. sry in a rush |
16:48.50 | Clyphox | er was in a rush |
16:49.06 | dank_work | :) |
16:49.14 | Clyphox | Cool.. |
16:49.25 | Clyphox | Done anything cool on your 8512 recently? |
16:49.31 | Clyphox | I'm just glad mine works hehe |
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16:50.17 | Clyphox | Hello |
16:50.29 | resuDaed_ssh | afternoon Clyphox |
16:50.53 | Clyphox | dank_work , Want copies of my system disks? I got quite a few when I got it.. |
16:51.01 | Clyphox | Howz life resuDaed |
16:51.15 | dank_work | Nah. It's been turned off for some time |
16:51.32 | Clyphox | I only really turned mine on when I got it last year |
16:51.39 | Clyphox | I have an apple 2!! |
16:51.46 | dank_work | Cool :) |
16:51.47 | Clyphox | Its my other old banger :) |
16:51.51 | dank_work | HEh. |
16:51.52 | Clyphox | Wow.. |
16:51.57 | dank_work | Look at my pictures of mine... |
16:52.02 | resuDaed_ssh | Clyphox : not too bad, just working far too hard |
16:52.06 | Clyphox | I got it form a friend for doing their network at home |
16:52.10 | dank_work | Nice :) |
16:52.23 | Clyphox | where where? I love PC porn.. |
16:52.33 | Clyphox | resudaed I know I know.. |
16:52.42 | dank_work | Clyphox: Read your private message |
16:52.48 | dank_work | Or, http://eco.li/photos/Computers/ |
16:53.01 | Clyphox | ? |
16:53.34 | Clyphox | you have a pdp 11! |
16:53.43 | dank_work | Yeah. |
16:54.07 | resuDaed_ssh | Clyphox : mouse sensitivity in X |
16:54.08 | resuDaed_ssh | ? |
16:54.29 | resuDaed_ssh | wb Huhn |
16:54.36 | Huhn | thanks |
16:54.50 | Clyphox | man xset |
16:54.51 | dank_work | There's a NetBSD port to the PDP-10 in progress |
16:55.01 | Clyphox | Ultra COOL! |
16:55.10 | Clyphox | dank_work, WHERE DID YOU GET IT! |
16:55.16 | dank_work | What? The PDP? |
16:55.17 | Clyphox | er.. don't mean to shout |
16:55.24 | Clyphox | yes.. |
16:55.31 | dank_work | Person I met on IRC. |
16:55.35 | Clyphox | Wow! |
16:55.40 | dank_work | He said he had a PDP, and I asked if I could have it |
16:55.42 | dank_work | (jokingly) |
16:55.46 | dank_work | And he said that I could |
16:55.51 | dank_work | So I went to London and picked it up |
16:55.59 | Clyphox | How did you transport it? |
16:56.02 | dank_work | Unfortunately the hard drive is dead |
16:56.07 | dank_work | Under my arm, and on the bus |
16:56.10 | dank_work | (and on the train) |
16:56.37 | Clyphox | Wow.. much smaller than the ones I saw.. |
16:56.46 | Clyphox | had ppl making fridges out of them hehe |
16:56.50 | dank_work | Yeah, they can be small :) |
16:57.08 | dank_work | (although the VAX has a proper case around it) |
16:57.15 | dank_work | And I've got a larger MicroVAX |
16:57.19 | dank_work | (which isn't working ATM) |
16:57.21 | Clyphox | I have a bad feeling my fiancee won't let me collect PC's |
16:57.30 | Clyphox | but tough. I will like it or not |
16:57.35 | resuDaed_ssh | Clyphox : I'd be inclined to agree with you |
16:57.45 | resuDaed_ssh | :) |
16:58.48 | Clyphox | I want to try get an AT |
16:58.51 | Clyphox | and an XT |
16:59.02 | Clyphox | and a 286 to relive the old days (when I started) |
16:59.24 | Clyphox | Then some DEC/Next/Beboxen maybe |
16:59.27 | dank_work | You want an AT? |
16:59.32 | dank_work | Come pick one up |
16:59.39 | dank_work | And take a few other old PCs with you |
17:00.08 | Clyphox | Where are you? |
17:00.23 | Clyphox | I would love too. I have a half working day on Friday |
17:00.35 | Clyphox | Am flying out off london at 18:30 |
17:00.51 | dank_work | In Beaconsfield (around High Wycombe) |
17:01.03 | Clyphox | ohh dear.. is that in london? |
17:01.10 | dank_work | No. It's outside |
17:01.32 | dank_work | Do you have a car? |
17:01.43 | Clyphox | I can get a lift with my dad maybe |
17:01.44 | Clyphox | no |
17:02.32 | dank_work | Ah. |
17:02.36 | Clyphox | Not too far I'm sure.. I'm in Enfield.. /me looks at a map |
17:02.55 | dank_work | M40, Junction 2/Jn. 3 |
17:03.02 | dank_work | (I'm half-way between them) |
17:03.13 | resuDaed_ssh | that is a fair trek |
17:03.49 | Clyphox | Oxfordshire? |
17:03.56 | dank_work | No. Bucks |
17:04.07 | dank_work | Although fairly close to Oxfordshire |
17:04.08 | Clyphox | Ahh closer I think.. |
17:04.16 | dank_work | HP9, if you want Streetmap |
17:05.00 | Clyphox | Its a small Village/town right? |
17:05.54 | Clyphox | I'm also going to collect consoles.. started with my N64 (lol..) |
17:07.03 | Clyphox | That is a really beautiful collection.. very moving. |
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17:09.20 | dank_work | :) |
17:09.29 | dank_work | It's a small-ish town. |
17:09.33 | dank_work | Well, ~10k people |
17:09.39 | Clyphox | cool |
17:09.44 | dank_work | And a GameGear |
17:09.59 | Clyphox | How do you get work in a small place like that ? and DSL? |
17:10.15 | dank_work | This area is fairly good on tech industry |
17:10.22 | dank_work | The whole High Wycombe, Maidenhead area |
17:10.31 | dank_work | Yeah, DSL isn't a problem |
17:10.37 | Tarragon | M4 corridor |
17:10.46 | dank_work | Basically |
17:10.58 | Clyphox | What do you do? |
17:11.16 | Clyphox | I'm sure I've already asked.. hehe |
17:11.22 | dank_work | Some sort of system admin |
17:11.29 | Clyphox | heh |
17:11.35 | Clyphox | me too.. |
17:11.44 | Clyphox | of some sort |
17:12.01 | dank_work | Heh :) |
17:12.38 | Clyphox | you don't have a L.A.R.T hehe |
17:13.19 | Clyphox | woops.. dead link : http://eco.li/photos/Computers/PCS/polyphemus/ |
17:13.26 | dank_work | Yes I do have a LART :) |
17:13.31 | dank_work | Yeah. Change PCS to PCs |
17:13.39 | Clyphox | WOW! Can I move in with you? |
17:13.47 | Clyphox | I'll have your babies... |
17:13.48 | dank_work | Heh :) Only with difficulty. |
17:13.58 | dank_work | But you can come visit if yo uwant |
17:14.00 | dank_work | *you want |
17:14.29 | Clyphox | hehe |
17:14.48 | Clyphox | still dead |
17:15.35 | dank_work | Ah. |
17:15.39 | dank_work | PCs/Polyphemus |
17:16.29 | Clyphox | 2Gig hdd! |
17:16.31 | Clyphox | heh |
17:16.34 | dank_work | Yeah. |
17:16.37 | dank_work | Split into 8 partitions |
17:17.01 | dank_work | I've finally got some NW 3.1[12] disks. Maybe I'll upgrade |
17:17.08 | Clyphox | Why not slackware? |
17:17.13 | dank_work | Why Slackware? |
17:17.16 | dank_work | Why not Netware? |
17:17.25 | Clyphox | Netware is boring.. |
17:17.28 | Clyphox | well |
17:17.31 | Clyphox | no |
17:17.35 | Clyphox | sorry |
17:17.36 | dank_work | No it's not :) |
17:17.42 | dank_work | Linux is boring. |
17:17.44 | Clyphox | I'll leave if you want |
17:17.55 | Clyphox | Hey I work with novell too :(( |
17:17.56 | dank_work | Heh. Nah, it's okay. |
17:18.18 | dank_work | It seems like it's what a server *should* be. |
17:18.34 | dank_work | It has a nice console, and you can't use it for user tasks like web browsing |
17:18.43 | Clyphox | I had great fun with Veritas Backup server/client on NW5 last Friday |
17:18.59 | Clyphox | I know what you mean |
17:19.00 | dank_work | (although I'm sure it's possible to port lynx/links to Netware, as an NLM) |
17:19.14 | Clyphox | Well they got X and fvwm2 so why not.. |
17:19.25 | dank_work | It could be Veritas |
17:19.28 | dank_work | But I can't remember |
17:19.32 | dank_work | It's in the loft somewhere :) |
17:19.36 | Clyphox | It works.. and my customers lie |
17:19.49 | Clyphox | the program log sais "Terminated by keyboard" |
17:19.57 | dank_work | Heh |
17:20.06 | Clyphox | but "Nooo... We didn't do anytihng out of the normal.. uhh uhh... we good.." |
17:20.16 | dank_work | Yeah yeah :) |
17:20.21 | Clyphox | So I say : "Yeah.... riiigghhhtt.... ok..." |
17:20.25 | dank_work | Rule 1. People are stupid. |
17:20.29 | Clyphox | and grumble all the way home.. |
17:20.34 | Clyphox | ID10T |
17:20.37 | dank_work | Rule 2. If people are not stupid, refer to Rule 1. |
17:20.40 | Clyphox | er IT ten T |
17:20.44 | Clyphox | lol |
17:20.46 | dank_work | er ID ten T |
17:21.16 | IDtenT | heehee.. |
17:21.29 | IDtenT | Now I actually feel like I'm worth it! |
17:21.35 | IDtenT | Cause after all... |
17:22.05 | dank_work | :) |
17:22.45 | IDtenT | ack the boss is residential.. |
17:22.49 | IDtenT | I hide now.. |
17:22.54 | dank_work | DUCK! |
17:23.59 | IDtenT | yes? |
17:24.04 | dank_work | Quack |
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18:04.35 | dank_work | Hometime |
18:07.31 | zachary | bbl |
18:07.52 | dpash | hmm doesn't sound a bad idea |
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18:55.35 | resuDaed_ssh | afternoon Jenson |
18:55.41 | resuDaed_ssh | afternoon eye69 |
18:56.20 | Jenson | hi resuDaed |
18:56.22 | Jenson | hi eye69 |
18:56.33 | resuDaed_ssh | think he auto-connected actually |
18:56.50 | Jenson | yeah, quite possibly |
18:57.13 | resuDaed_ssh | hows your day been? |
18:57.25 | Jenson | Two of the mails I got from the gllug list today were datestamped June 2001, even though they were part of a thread - weird |
18:57.31 | Jenson | My day has been ok yeah |
18:57.32 | Jenson | Yours? |
18:58.06 | resuDaed_ssh | I had a day off today, slept till about 12 |
18:58.19 | Jenson | Sounds like the best idea |
18:58.53 | resuDaed_ssh | and my email provider is down, so I cannot buy stuff online @ moment |
19:08.23 | Huhn | re |
19:08.49 | Jenson | re |
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19:09.32 | Davilion | evening |
19:09.43 | Jenson | hey Davilion |
19:11.36 | Jenson | twonkle.com lol |
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19:16.02 | Davilion | hi dan |
19:16.16 | Jenson | hey |
19:16.35 | dankolb | Hi |
19:16.39 | dankolb | hey |
19:22.36 | dankolb | 208 emails today |
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19:24.06 | dankolb | Hi Leeds |
19:24.08 | Jenson | hi Leeds |
19:24.13 | Leeds | evening guys |
19:24.17 | Davilion | evening leeds. |
19:24.17 | Leeds | and gals |
19:40.29 | Davilion | hows it going leeds? |
19:40.52 | Leeds | not bad... just got back from a weekend in Leeds... |
19:40.58 | Leeds | photos will be up in a few minutes :-) |
19:41.18 | dankolb | Cool :) |
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19:41.40 | Davilion | oooh that reminds me |
19:42.50 | dankolb | hi zachary |
19:43.07 | zachary | evening dankolb |
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19:44.09 | Leeds | okay, going to be more than a few minutes... big pictures :-) 32Mb of them... |
19:44.32 | Leeds | plus 18Mb of movie... |
19:44.33 | dankolb | wb Jenson |
19:44.44 | Jenson | ty |
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20:15.38 | Leeds | photos at http://photos.geeksgetrevenge.com/leeds_oneday and movies (not to be spread around, not that I think anyone here would care) at http://photos.geeksgetrevenge.com/leeds_oneday/Kol%20Rina/movies/ |
20:17.05 | Leeds | big pics... |
20:17.19 | Leeds | and yes, there are fosdem pics there too :-) |
20:21.48 | murb | Leeds: not to spead arround, but this chnnel is logged </pred> |
20:22.25 | Leeds | murb: I know... I didn't mean that - I meant not to tell all your friends |
20:23.04 | dankolb | We have friends? |
20:23.17 | Leeds | well, murb doesn't... |
20:27.39 | Leeds | the point of the movies, by the way, is more the sound than the video... |
20:29.07 | murb | I don't suppose the movies will be fun to download at 28.8kbits/second |
20:30.00 | Leeds | well, they're all around 3 meg... I like the singing, but it's quite a lot... maybe I should strip the audio tracks out |
20:44.08 | dankolb | My Win95 machine is making funny noises |
20:44.34 | Leeds | "You've got mail!" |
20:44.41 | dankolb | No. |
20:44.46 | dankolb | Odd hardware noises. |
20:44.56 | Huhn | the computer wants a new OS ;) |
20:45.19 | Tarragon | Sort of high pitched squeking? |
20:45.31 | dankolb | Yeah.. |
20:45.34 | Leeds | clicking? |
20:45.38 | dankolb | Whee! |
20:45.42 | dankolb | No. What Tarragon said. |
20:46.06 | Tarragon | Ah that just means you have not fed Clippy! |
20:46.20 | dankolb | No Office on there. I don't think, at least. |
20:48.16 | murb | talking paperclips? |
20:48.22 | murb | nearly as bad as talking cutlery |
20:48.29 | Leeds | vigor to the rescue! |
20:49.07 | murb | well more knives |
20:50.07 | dankolb | There is no spoon |
20:50.26 | Leeds | there is if you believe Uri Gellar |
20:50.39 | Leeds | Geller? doesn't really matter, it's Hebrew anyway... |
20:50.45 | dankolb | Well, Uri Geller had been in the Falstaff |
20:51.12 | Leeds | dankolb: very true |
20:51.46 | dankolb | Ahh. |
20:51.49 | dankolb | It's not my hardware. |
20:51.57 | stephen | but you obviously haven't freed your mind enouh, so you *still* believe it exists and therefore it still hurts |
20:52.00 | dankolb | It's my phone that's making the squeaking noise |
20:52.02 | dankolb | No. |
20:52.06 | dankolb | My mind is blank. |
20:52.11 | dankolb | Ask Leeds - he knows me well enough |
20:52.16 | Leeds | always :-) |
20:52.29 | Leeds | "blank" or "a blank"? :-) |
20:52.31 | dankolb | And even if he didn't, he'd still be happy to tell you my mind is empty |
20:52.37 | dankolb | Either :) |
21:03.59 | murb | does anyone have a Psion Dacom pcmcia modem dongle, but not the modem? |
21:06.07 | zachary | murb: I might have one. It's a Psion, but I don't know the model. The modem blew over a year ago. I'll check |
21:07.00 | dankolb | murb: You looking for a dongle? |
21:12.06 | zachary | murb: Sorry, it's a Psion Gold Card Global 56K |
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21:26.32 | new2unix | hi all |
21:26.57 | dankolb | Hi |
21:27.15 | new2unix | ibot seen zimm |
21:27.20 | | zimm <~plato@public2-bror1-4-cust195.bror.broadband.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 1d 22h 44m 54s ago, saying: 'byeee'. |
21:27.59 | new2unix | hi dan |
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22:17.08 | Huhn | dankolb: ? |
22:17.39 | dankolb | It's very quiet |
22:17.55 | Huhn | I'm still working |
22:18.04 | dankolb | Tumbleweeds are those balls that roll across the ground in deserted areas |
22:19.02 | Huhn | mh, is it gtk, Gtk or GTK? |
22:19.14 | dankolb | Depends :) |
22:19.20 | Huhn | *sigh* |
22:19.25 | Huhn | that's what google is telling me |
22:20.12 | dankolb | But I may not be correct |
22:20.31 | Huhn | thnx anyway, I choose GTK |
22:20.36 | dankolb | Okay :) |
22:20.41 | dankolb | It's up to the editor to fix it :) |
22:20.50 | Huhn | gna, I'm the editor ;)) |
22:20.55 | dankolb | So fix it :) |
22:21.00 | Huhn | lol, I did! |
22:21.03 | dankolb | Hehe. |
22:21.12 | Huhn | the author had all 3 versions ;) |
22:21.14 | dankolb | As long as it's consistent throughout.. |
22:21.15 | dankolb | :) |
22:21.27 | dankolb | Well, it's an acronym, so should be capitalised |
22:22.10 | Huhn | I agree |
22:22.22 | dankolb | Okay. GTK it is, then :) |
22:22.52 | Huhn | any complaints will be forwarded to you ;) |
22:23.09 | dankolb | Sure. Send them to devnull@eco.li |
22:24.21 | Huhn | :) |
22:24.32 | dankolb | (yet, it does direct mail to /dev/null) |
22:24.42 | Huhn | nice |
22:24.52 | dankolb | Yeah. Procmail is good that way |
22:26.51 | Huhn | I like procmail |
22:28.06 | dankolb | I have a system-wide procmailrc, plus an individual one |
22:28.57 | dankolb | The most advanced rules I have are: |
22:29.00 | dankolb | :0 Hhbwf |
22:29.16 | dankolb | * ^X-Spam-Status.*hits=[0-9]+[0-9]\.* |
22:29.25 | dankolb | | formail -a "X-Spam: Yes" |
22:29.41 | dankolb | And the same again, but with *hits=[5-9]\.* |
22:30.03 | Huhn | nice ;) |
22:30.18 | dankolb | Yeah. Only because something is slightly wrong with Spamassassin's spamd |
22:30.21 | Huhn | I wrote a killfile for one mail address: |
22:30.52 | Huhn | :0 |
22:30.59 | dankolb | It scores properly, but doesn't seem to return the correct exit code, so it always comes up with X-Spam-Status: No (even with, say, a spam score of 15) |
22:30.59 | Huhn | * ^From.*XYZ |
22:31.05 | Huhn | { |
22:31.05 | Huhn | :0 c |
22:31.14 | Huhn | | (echo "Stop writing emails." | /bin/mail -s Deleted XYZ) |
22:31.16 | Huhn | :0 |
22:31.17 | Huhn | Schrott |
22:31.17 | Huhn | } |
22:31.19 | dankolb | :-) |
22:31.37 | dankolb | Someone annoyed you that much? |
22:31.44 | Huhn | yes |
22:31.49 | Huhn | it works ;) |
22:31.51 | dankolb | :) |
22:31.56 | dankolb | brb |
22:32.05 | Huhn | and it was a good opportunity to learn procmail |
22:36.29 | dankolb | back |
22:36.30 | dankolb | :) |
22:36.54 | Huhn | article finished |
22:36.54 | dankolb | :) |
22:36.57 | dankolb | Well done |
22:36.58 | new2unix | da: was it space food. that was damn quick |
22:37.05 | dankolb | Nah. Nothing special |
22:37.18 | dankolb | Grab something out of the jar, and eat it |
22:37.47 | Huhn | too simple |
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22:38.00 | dankolb | Yeah. |
22:38.02 | dankolb | Far too simple. |
22:39.27 | Huhn | btw: the article was interesting, compared peer-to-peer clients for Linux |
22:39.41 | dankolb | Which ones exist? |
22:39.53 | Huhn | eDonkey, Overnet |
22:40.03 | Huhn | mldonkey |
22:40.06 | dankolb | Okay. And did any of them have Muppet Show episodes? ;-) |
22:40.10 | Huhn | cDonkey |
22:40.14 | Huhn | all of them had ;) |
22:41.21 | Huhn | Jenson: how fast is your connection? |
22:41.30 | Jenson | 56k dialup |
22:41.49 | Jenson | connects at 45k |
22:42.37 | Huhn | urghs |
22:42.41 | Huhn | that would be no fun |
22:44.35 | Huhn | is it expensive in uk? |
22:44.58 | dankolb | I'm paying £25/month, with a static IP |
22:45.27 | Huhn | that's cool |
22:45.30 | dankolb | And I had a £50 setup charge |
22:45.34 | dankolb | Plus modem extra |
22:45.36 | Huhn | not too much |
22:46.05 | Huhn | in Cologne you get a very cheap DSL connection when you have a press ID :) |
22:46.13 | dankolb | Lucky you :) |
22:46.47 | new2unix | i'm looking at zen. but i need to save up for a router/modem.switch/wireless adapter thingie (£200) |
22:46.49 | Huhn | :) |
22:47.08 | dankolb | Yeah. I paid £150 for my (wireless) router, and another £100 for the Airport card for the laptop |
22:47.35 | Jenson | me thinks ADSL sounds far too confusing for her |
22:47.37 | Huhn | oh, my modem was free |
22:47.39 | Jenson | oops |
22:47.42 | Jenson | forgot the / |
22:48.35 | dankolb | But can you wait about 4 weeks between ordering it and finally getting it? |
22:49.00 | new2unix | dan: i didnt think it was that long a waiting list |
22:49.17 | dankolb | It took BT 4 weeks to enable mine |
22:49.57 | Jenson | that was over christmas thiough wasnt it? |
22:49.58 | dankolb | If you get it with BT, they might enable it quicker |
22:50.04 | dankolb | So? |
22:50.10 | dankolb | It should take around 2 weeks |
22:50.33 | Jenson | it took whsmith 6 weeks instead of 2 to process a clubcard application in december |
22:51.00 | new2unix | ive seen the modem i want but cant afford it at the mo. was initially thinking of sharing the bandwith with my neigbours far and wide and probably asking for a donation to help cover the initial costs. still thinking about it though. |
22:51.13 | dankolb | :) |
22:52.59 | dankolb | Could need a large network of base stations, though |
22:53.12 | new2unix | thats another reason why i havent ditched my present isp. ive got all my linux/bsd boxes ready to go. all i need now is money for the router and i'm set to go. (another node on the consume map :) ) |
22:53.22 | dankolb | :-) |
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22:54.02 | Jenson | hi skugg |
22:54.08 | dankolb | Hey skugg |
22:54.11 | Huhn | hi skugg |
22:54.17 | new2unix | ji skugg |
22:54.27 | skugg | hi jenson, dankolb, Huhn & new2unix :) |
22:54.44 | skugg | how are you doing? |
22:54.52 | skugg | who's going for the installfest? |
22:55.01 | Jenson | I'm tired, might go to bed soon, but alright |
22:55.02 | Jenson | I am |
22:55.03 | skugg | i'm not sure I'm going yet |
22:55.04 | new2unix | skugg must be a perl monger with his one line greetings. :) |
22:55.07 | dankolb | (probably) |
22:55.24 | Jenson | dankolb: Thought you wanted to 'keep an ete on me' |
22:55.37 | dankolb | Yeah, unless something comes up |
22:55.42 | Huhn | skugg: I'm going, I booked a flight some days ago |
22:55.49 | dankolb | Ahh yes. |
22:55.50 | skugg | new2unix, heh. an aspiring one then. --> brautaset.org/diary.html -- see most recent entry |
22:55.55 | dankolb | That reminds me why I have to go. |
22:56.01 | Jenson | Its alright I'll be ok by myself anyway |
22:56.08 | dankolb | I owe Huhn a few beers for the Muppet Shows she'll be giving me :) |
22:56.09 | dankolb | *hint* |
22:56.10 | Jenson | Someone'll keep an eye on me I'm sure |
22:56.13 | dankolb | Yeah. Bee. |
22:56.19 | skugg | Huhn, woah, you're coming over here for it? that's impressive |
22:56.30 | new2unix | i'll be there. i can arrange sleeping arangements at my brothers/zimms if anyone is interested. |
22:56.45 | Jenson | new2unix: I would be, but certain people would kill me |
22:56.49 | Huhn | skugg: I miss you all that much ;)) |
22:57.08 | skugg | Huhn, heh, i'm sure you do ;) |
22:57.34 | Jenson | lol skugg |
22:57.40 | Huhn | skugg: but this time I made sure I booked a single room ;))) |
22:57.53 | dankolb | Yeah. I can see you're easily missed |
22:57.58 | skugg | (usually when arranging who to invite) |
22:58.24 | skugg | Huhn, a nifty idea |
22:58.35 | Huhn | skugg: yes, and so healthy for other ppl ;) |
22:58.36 | skugg | whatever made you think of that? :D |
22:59.42 | dankolb | :) |
23:00.12 | Huhn | I could tell from your red eyes |
23:01.09 | skugg | ho hum |
23:01.13 | Huhn | jummy, I'm listening to Gary Moore |
23:01.23 | Jenson | I'm listening to Def Leppard |
23:01.38 | Jenson | and chewing a screwdriver |
23:01.41 | Jenson | coz I'm hungry |
23:01.50 | Huhn | Jenson: nice |
23:01.56 | dankolb | Smoking is bad, mm'kay |
23:01.57 | dankolb | :) |
23:02.02 | Jenson | lol dankolb |
23:02.02 | Huhn | I know |
23:02.07 | skugg | jenson, may i suggest a slice of bread instead? |
23:02.09 | skugg | :) |
23:02.21 | Jenson | skugg: I can see a big pack of biscuits from here |
23:02.32 | Huhn | Jenson: go get them, they're evil! |
23:02.44 | skugg | Jenson, so don't break your teeth on the screwdriver -- that's what perl is for ;) |
23:02.58 | dankolb | Heh. |
23:03.05 | dankolb | Use bash scripting |
23:03.26 | Huhn | skugg: no way ;)) |
23:03.43 | Huhn | thanks |
23:03.51 | skugg | thanks |
23:03.55 | dankolb | cheers |
23:04.07 | skugg | dankolb, i was reading that in the bath earlier on today... |
23:04.13 | Huhn | oh dear.. |
23:04.16 | dankolb | But did you break your teeth on it? |
23:04.16 | Jenson | lol |
23:04.29 | dankolb | Huhn: There's no need to imaging Stig in the bath |
23:04.31 | Huhn | I know someone who read the sendmail book as good night story.. |
23:04.32 | dankolb | *imagine |
23:04.36 | Huhn | dankolb: ;)) |
23:04.51 | Jenson | Nah dankolb, we all know who she's imagining..... |
23:04.52 | murb | Huhn: well if they wanted to sleep maybe. |
23:04.58 | skugg | dankolb, nah. but much of the line noise in /usr/bin/* is starting to make sence :P |
23:05.03 | dankolb | :-) |
23:05.05 | skugg | s,ce,se, |
23:05.06 | Huhn | murb: it was Jens ;) |
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23:05.48 | dankolb | wb |
23:05.52 | Jenson | wb |
23:06.03 | new2unix | hehe. ty all |
23:06.31 | Jenson | yw |
23:07.05 | skugg | eh, the othelly game i started yesterday beats Iagno _hands down_ already ;) |
23:07.18 | Jenson | well done skugg |
23:07.41 | skugg | it's pet name is `moth' (`{my,mini} othello') for the time being by the way... |
23:08.02 | Jenson | sweet |
23:11.17 | skugg | yeah, I like it :) |
23:12.45 | dankolb | Is it part of your Uni course, then? |
23:13.32 | dankolb | Or just a pet project? |
23:15.08 | murb | skugg: does it use curses |
23:15.31 | murb | Huhn: talking cutlery and reading sendmail books, hmm. |
23:15.57 | Huhn | murb: :)) |
23:16.10 | Jenson | ahhh NETSPLIT |
23:16.16 | dankolb | Splitters. |
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23:16.36 | dankolb | :-) |
23:16.39 | Jenson | lol murb |
23:17.12 | new2unix | ok. can someone please explain |
23:17.22 | Huhn | new2unix: what? |
23:17.41 | Jenson | new2unix: It was a netsplit |
23:18.19 | murb | new2unix: just freenode being crap that is all. |
23:18.24 | new2unix | yes. they keep telling me that. i guess its time i kicked started the webbrowser and rane google for help. :) |
23:18.57 | murb | <PROTECTED> |
23:19.24 | dankolb | He doesn't send many wallops any more |
23:19.28 | Jenson | murb: I've never done that.... |
23:19.59 | murb | dankolb: he sends enough |
23:20.12 | skugg | murb, how do you know if you ignore him? :) |
23:20.24 | skugg | dankolb, i noticed that too |
23:21.03 | new2unix | it tells me: *** You can't do that, you're no deity |
23:21.15 | new2unix | when i "'/set mode -w'" |
23:21.20 | Huhn | Jenson: easy, don't use the phone :P |
23:21.23 | dankolb | Simple. Don't phone so much. |
23:21.35 | Jenson | lol yeah |
23:21.42 | dankolb | If you can. |
23:21.55 | dankolb | Didn't you put £20 on, on Sunday? |
23:22.04 | Jenson | nope £10 |
23:22.13 | dankolb | Okay. |
23:23.55 | Jenson | :) |
23:23.59 | Huhn | skugg needs a gf.. ;) |
23:24.11 | Jenson | Huhn: Nah, dating = trouble |
23:24.36 | dankolb | Only if you try and date > 1 person at a time |
23:24.45 | new2unix | yeah. learn an obscure programming language instead. :) |
23:24.46 | Jenson | Which I dont |
23:24.57 | dankolb | Hm. |
23:25.02 | murb | gold fish are expensive to maintaine |
23:25.04 | Huhn | or talk to frogs.. |
23:25.10 | skugg | Huhn, i have free texts -- unlimited (well, not technically true, but in practice it is -- i've got 300 free texts a month) |
23:25.20 | Huhn | skugg: that's a lot |
23:25.26 | skugg | Huhn, i know |
23:25.29 | murb | only 10 a day ish |
23:25.30 | dankolb | And make sure it's obscure enough that you have to regularly phone the programming language author for help :) |
23:25.40 | Jenson | lol |
23:25.41 | new2unix | i have a teddy bear i often reveal personal details to. |
23:26.00 | dankolb | :) |
23:26.02 | Huhn | new2unix: practical, teddy never complains |
23:26.07 | skugg | but some guys in my class laughed at me -- they sent over 1000 texts a month... I don't know when they slept or ate, no. |
23:26.12 | new2unix | It doesnt speak English, so i'm alright at the mo. lol |
23:26.17 | Jenson | new2unix: Just phone someone and tell them |
23:28.17 | Jenson | Night people |
23:28.23 | Huhn | nn, Jenson |
23:28.26 | dankolb | night babe |
23:28.32 | new2unix | night night |
23:28.43 | Jenson | nn Huhn |
23:28.45 | Jenson | night babe |
23:28.50 | Jenson | night new2unix |
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23:41.49 | new2unix | ibot boring |
23:41.50 | | new2unix: i don't know |
23:42.01 | dankolb | what's boring? |
23:42.11 | new2unix | ibot is |
23:42.12 | | new2unix: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
23:42.20 | dankolb | ibot is boring |
23:42.21 | | dankolb: wish i knew |
23:42.32 | dankolb | ibot ibot is boring |
23:42.32 | | dankolb: cannot alter locked factoids |
23:42.32 | | dankolb: i haven't a clue |
23:42.52 | Leeds | ibot ibot |
23:42.52 | | [ibot] a blootbot now, no longer an infobot. run by BZFlag (TimRiker) on his server. see blootbot also http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ it uses SQLite but can use MySQL or other SQL for storage. |
23:45.35 | Leeds | so, anyone go into congestion charge land today? |
23:45.59 | new2unix | yeah. i work within one |
23:46.10 | Leeds | and you drive? |
23:46.42 | new2unix | Cromwell road. got into work by bus as usual. was a breeze. was like flying baove the clouds. :) |
23:47.02 | new2unix | s/baove/above |
23:48.18 | Leeds | did it look like there was less traffic? |
23:49.15 | new2unix | there were only white van drivers (work me), buses, black cabs and cyclist. Oh and the odd ferrari/porche |
23:49.35 | new2unix | s/work me/work men |
23:50.06 | new2unix | i heard those that travelled by tube/train had a night mare of a journey. |
23:55.36 | new2unix | night all |
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23:58.22 | dankolb | The 205? |
23:58.33 | resuDaed_ | evening all |
23:58.33 | murb | yep, it is unsuprii=ngly enough a bus |
23:58.44 | dankolb | Yes. But to where |
23:58.44 | dankolb | Hi Tom |
23:59.13 | Leeds | the bus to nowhere? |