| 00:09.40 | dankolb | Modems are slow :( |
| 00:09.54 | Jenson | lol I'm used to them |
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| 00:23.43 | dankolb | Aww |
| 00:23.49 | new2unix_ | hello |
| 00:23.52 | dankolb | Hi new2unix_ |
| 00:23.53 | Jenson | hi new2unix_ |
| 00:24.05 | new2unix | Hi Jenson |
| 00:24.27 | Jenson | new2unix: If you wanna know how zimm is doing today, Dan spoke to him last |
| 00:24.49 | dankolb | That wasn't nice of her |
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| 00:25.05 | dankolb | bad |
| 00:25.13 | Jenson | yeah |
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| 00:32.11 | Jenson | wb |
| 00:32.39 | dankolb_ | fucking modem |
| 00:32.43 | dankolb_ | Hrm. |
| 00:32.48 | Jenson | awww |
| 00:33.09 | dankolb_ | And Demon is currently screwed up |
| 00:33.15 | stephen | that sucks |
| 00:33.34 | dankolb_ | Definitely |
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| 00:38.10 | Jenson | wb again |
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| 00:39.06 | dankolb | Fucking BT |
| 00:43.27 | dankolb | I despise BT Internet |
| 00:43.29 | dankolb | Loathe it |
| 00:43.42 | Huhn | ibot: lart BT Internet |
| 00:47.06 | resuDaed | evening all |
| 00:47.10 | dankolb | hello |
| 00:49.01 | Huhn | hi resuDaed |
| 00:53.04 | dankolb | How's it going? |
| 00:53.46 | resuDaed | not too bvad ... on phone ... brb |
| 00:54.36 | dankolb | Oh great. |
| 00:54.58 | dankolb | www.demon.net/helpdesk/status/status2.shtml |
| 00:56.04 | dankolb | "Engineers are investigation" |
| 00:56.06 | dankolb | Grrrrr |
| 01:00.22 | HuhnZzZ | nn |
| 01:00.30 | resuDaed | nn |
| 01:01.08 | dankolb | night |
| 01:01.56 | resuDaed | Beth's not feeling too good |
| 01:02.24 | dankolb | Aww :( |
| 01:02.27 | dankolb | What's up with her? |
| 01:02.44 | resuDaed | she wont tell me, I'm going around to hers in a few mins |
| 01:02.50 | dankolb | At this time? |
| 01:02.58 | resuDaed | is only round the corner |
| 01:03.06 | resuDaed | 500yds or so |
| 01:03.11 | dankolb | you just going to stay there with her, then? |
| 01:03.16 | dankolb | Cool. Convenient :) |
| 01:03.29 | resuDaed | I am going to try and drag her back here if I can |
| 01:03.47 | resuDaed | I have been hard at work, and need my own bed to sleep |
| 01:04.14 | resuDaed | emphasis on 'sleep' :) |
| 01:05.31 | resuDaed | is it possible to write scripts for bitchX to ru on startup? |
| 01:05.38 | dankolb | Probably |
| 01:05.42 | resuDaed | (ie open 4 channels or so on different windows) |
| 01:06.26 | dankolb | No idea. |
| 01:06.28 | dankolb | Use irssi :) |
| 01:06.55 | dankolb | Wha? She left about 20 mins ago |
| 01:15.11 | resuDaed | when writing a .ircrc, is it possible to run the /window new hide command and then switch to that window, or is that a bitchx specific command? |
| 01:15.28 | dankolb | That would be a client specific command |
| 01:15.46 | resuDaed | o/wise, do you know how youcope with multiple channels on one screen |
| 01:15.56 | dankolb | Badly |
| 01:16.02 | dankolb | Which is why I'm using irssi |
| 01:16.05 | dankolb | (or rather, dank_work is) |
| 01:16.09 | resuDaed | (any idea how?) |
| 01:16.28 | resuDaed | most of the time I am writing to #gllug, but I may switch a little |
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| 01:16.46 | dankolb | Well, you could have multiple channels in one window (as BitchX does) |
| 01:16.49 | dankolb | wb murb |
| 01:16.52 | murb | hello |
| 01:17.04 | murb | klepto has been for a wonder south of the river |
| 01:17.59 | dankolb | Not a good thing, then? |
| 01:18.15 | murb | Yes it is good, because it means it is no longer at work place. |
| 01:18.37 | dankolb | Ahh. Where is it, then? |
| 01:18.38 | murb | I was planning to do it, it just happened. |
| 01:18.45 | murb | s/was/wasn't/ |
| 01:18.58 | murb | so the dns probably hasn't caught up yet. |
| 01:19.11 | resuDaed | dankolb: I know you *can*, what I don't understand is how yo specify which channel you are posting to |
| 01:19.24 | resuDaed | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:19.29 | dankolb | --> murb (~murble@clepto.pho.be) has joined #gllug |
| 01:19.32 | dankolb | Maybe it has? |
| 01:19.39 | dankolb | resuDaed: Yup |
| 01:19.44 | resuDaed | like this? |
| 01:20.06 | dankolb | Yeah |
| 01:20.10 | resuDaed | ah, not so bad, bitchx stores /msg <dest> under the tab key, so not too difficult |
| 01:20.40 | dankolb | Use irssi :) |
| 01:20.48 | murb | dankolb: but the forward doesn't always match |
| 01:20.53 | dankolb | Ah, right |
| 01:21.05 | murb | one of my secondaries ignores notifies :( |
| 01:21.10 | resuDaed | nah, set up .ircrc alias for /m, then aut-complete, easy as piss and I don't have to keep switching windows |
| 01:21.21 | dankolb | D'oh |
| 01:21.22 | murb | and my upstream delegation for pho.be is broken. |
| 01:21.26 | dankolb | resuDaed: :) |
| 01:21.57 | murb | ibot lart Hellea sprl |
| 01:29.48 | dankolb | 'night |
| 01:40.28 | murb | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:32.27 | Tarragon | Morning |
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| 07:40.57 | zachary | good morning |
| 08:53.35 | zachary | brb |
| 09:01.52 | dank_work | Morning |
| 09:03.29 | Tarragon | Moin |
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| 09:05.43 | dpash | moin |
| 09:12.39 | dank_work | Has anyone here used LVM under RedHat 8.0? |
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| 09:13.06 | dpash | nope |
| 09:13.17 | dpash | LVM is dead |
| 09:14.38 | Leeds | but Elvis is alive |
| 09:21.54 | dank_work | :) |
| 09:22.03 | dank_work | Long live LVM :) |
| 09:22.23 | dank_work | morning Leeds |
| 09:25.09 | Leeds | morning... |
| 09:25.22 | Leeds | anyway, it's LVM2 now... agk is the expert on that :-) |
| 09:35.17 | dank_work | This is still LVM1-something, I think |
| 09:36.19 | Leeds | I have no idea what you're talking about - came in part-way through :_) |
| 09:36.46 | dank_work | <dank_work> Has anyone here used LVM under RedHat 8.0? |
| 09:36.50 | dank_work | That's what you missed. |
| 09:37.06 | Leeds | ah |
| 09:43.39 | dank_work | FUCK |
| 09:43.43 | dank_work | Mozilla just crashed. AGAIN. |
| 09:43.53 | dank_work | It really is a complete steaming pile. |
| 09:44.42 | Leeds | that may be a *touch* harsh... it's improved a hell of a lot since 1.0 |
| 09:45.02 | dank_work | Well, I think this one is still 1.1 |
| 09:45.04 | Leeds | I tend to find that particular plugins make it much less stable |
| 09:45.09 | Leeds | ah! you should have 1.2.1 |
| 09:45.26 | dank_work | Heh |
| 09:46.01 | Leeds | and the 1.3 release date on the roadmap is today :-) give it a week or two... |
| 09:46.19 | dank_work | Need to wait for the Ports to be updated |
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| 09:47.07 | Leeds | feh to that - I grab the source from CVS as soon as the release announcement is made and build it myself :-) |
| 09:47.42 | dank_work | What about package management? ;-) |
| 09:48.33 | Leeds | what's that then? |
| 09:48.59 | dank_work | Something Solaris should have ;-) |
| 09:49.26 | Leeds | oh, Solaris... |
| 09:49.45 | Leeds | got it there... but people in the office rely on me to have an up-to-date Mozilla they can nick :-) |
| 09:49.54 | Leeds | I was really talking about home |
| 09:50.00 | dank_work | :) |
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| 10:14.54 | dpash_ | 2hr cutoff |
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| 10:30.07 | dank_work | Hi ppl |
| 10:30.29 | dank_work | Davilion: Feeling any better than last night? |
| 10:30.32 | zachary | morning dank_work |
| 10:32.14 | Davilion | dank_work: YEAH |
| 10:32.29 | dank_work | Good :) |
| 10:32.35 | dank_work | How's life, zachary |
| 10:32.36 | dank_work | ? |
| 10:33.21 | zachary | not bad. on antibiotics. no drinks for me for the next seven days :( |
| 10:33.34 | dank_work | Aww :( |
| 10:33.37 | dank_work | What's up? |
| 10:34.14 | zachary | the ceiling, light bulbs, blue skies(in the rare occasions). |
| 10:35.50 | dank_work | Har har. |
| 10:36.13 | dank_work | Are you here all week? |
| 10:36.19 | zachary | you asked :) |
| 10:36.37 | zachary | lol |
| 10:36.57 | zachary | daughter just woke up. |
| 10:37.51 | zachary | hopefully I'll get my kvm switch today, another second hand computer tomarrow. |
| 10:39.26 | dank_work | Cool :) |
| 10:39.49 | dank_work | My one is still sitting in the garage, waiting for such time that dear mother isn't looking (when I can bring it into the house) |
| 10:42.40 | zachary | tgif / poets :) |
| 10:43.05 | dank_work | :) |
| 10:43.38 | zachary | I think it will be a lazy day of nothing to do but watch sci fi movies. |
| 10:44.30 | dank_work | Sounds good |
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| 10:57.13 | dank_work | Heh. You back again? |
| 10:57.37 | zimm | aye |
| 10:57.40 | dank_work | You're an IRC addict, you are |
| 10:57.49 | zimm | got my own login back too |
| 10:57.53 | zimm | hehe ,,, |
| 10:57.53 | dank_work | Good for you :) |
| 10:58.20 | zimm | man , id forgotten how nice janet was , |
| 10:58.31 | dank_work | It's very very nice. |
| 10:58.51 | dank_work | So you've got luxury |
| 10:59.07 | zimm | hehe |
| 11:00.16 | dank_work | Silly, you are. |
| 11:00.51 | zimm | nah man , i got home , and i thought , hmm , i have a brand new washing machine and an empty house ... i know il wash all my clothes .. |
| 11:01.00 | zimm | fsckin thing took 3 hours per cycle |
| 11:01.19 | zimm | fsckin FIRE ALARM |
| 11:01.26 | dank_work | Heh |
| 11:01.34 | zimm | dammit |
| 11:01.44 | zimm | i only just got here , and we are being evacuated |
| 11:01.48 | zimm | grrr |
| 11:01.58 | zimm | takes the FSCKIN piss |
| 11:02.02 | zimm | laters |
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| 11:28.13 | Tarragon | wb |
| 11:28.20 | zimm | :) |
| 11:29.08 | zimm | man , this sux ,, get kicked out cos of a fire alarm , and now ive got the crappiest machine in the room |
| 11:30.22 | zimm | still , i got to spend 10 minutes showing off , so guess its worth it |
| 11:31.28 | Tarragon | Showing what off? |
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| 11:36.40 | zimm | ?>~ |
| 11:39.14 | zimm | woah , cupis got official debian dev status ? |
| 11:48.17 | dank_work | Ooh. You're back? |
| 11:49.45 | zimm | dank_work: is a silly person |
| 11:49.57 | dank_work | Nope. Sensible :) |
| 11:50.08 | dank_work | Don't want to be affiliated with the political dregs of the computing world. |
| 11:50.17 | zimm | bleh |
| 12:03.46 | dank_work | what? :) |
| 12:03.57 | zimm | bleh |
| 12:04.19 | dank_work | Indeed |
| 12:04.27 | dank_work | Actually, I agree. Bleh. |
| 12:04.40 | dank_work | Just got cornered and told about a Livelink problem. |
| 12:04.45 | dank_work | I DON'T CARE! |
| 12:04.48 | dank_work | Sorry :) |
| 12:04.49 | zimm | LOL |
| 12:05.22 | dank_work | I've been unplugging some cables from the patch panels in the server room |
| 12:05.33 | dank_work | And I'm going to have great fun attempting to pull the cables out |
| 12:05.52 | zimm | hehe |
| 12:06.45 | dank_work | Ah well. But back to my Slowlaris 9 to 8 upgrade |
| 12:09.39 | Leeds | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:09.46 | dank_work | Yup :) |
| 12:09.54 | Leeds | is 9 that bad? |
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| 12:12.48 | Leeds | ibot netsplit |
| 12:12.49 | | rumour has it, netsplit is the disease of the 21st century, or <BluefoxIcy> ....netsplit? <Rhapsodi> nope..wasn't a netsplit..everybody just had a sudden urge for some pie. |
| 12:12.56 | Leeds | ibot pie |
| 12:12.57 | | Leeds ate all the pies |
| 12:13.15 | dank_work | wb |
| 12:13.25 | dank_work | Our production Sun machines run Sol8 |
| 12:13.38 | dank_work | And we want to try Oracle9 on it |
| 12:13.44 | Leeds | ours run Sol10 :-) |
| 12:13.45 | dank_work | (saves upgrading the OS on the prod machines) |
| 12:13.50 | dank_work | Can I have a copy? :) |
| 12:15.33 | Leeds | um, no :-) but we're going to be starting the beta/early access program quite soon, I think... |
| 12:16.19 | Huhn | hi |
| 12:16.23 | dank_work | Can I be a beta tester? |
| 12:16.24 | dank_work | Hi Huhn |
| 12:16.32 | Huhn | hi dank_work |
| 12:16.45 | dank_work | Do I want power management on or off on this (server) machien? |
| 12:17.22 | Leeds | the plan is to do very frequent releases of the beta, straight from the development tree, since one of our development rules is "FCS [i.e. shipping] quality at all times" |
| 12:17.30 | Leeds | power management off! that's bloody annoying |
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| 12:23.59 | Jenson | hey all |
| 12:24.03 | zimm | hey Jenson |
| 12:24.08 | Jenson | hi zimm |
| 12:24.15 | Leeds | afternoon |
| 12:24.19 | Jenson | hi Leeds |
| 12:24.36 | dank_work | hi J |
| 12:24.44 | Jenson | hey D |
| 12:25.08 | dank_work | :) |
| 12:25.17 | dank_work | It's hot here |
| 12:25.33 | dank_work | Leeds: Okay :) Off it goes then |
| 12:26.02 | dank_work | yeah. |
| 12:26.10 | dank_work | Get off-line and get dressed. Gowon. |
| 12:26.35 | zimm | lol |
| 12:26.42 | Leeds | Jenson: me too... plus I'm at work :-) |
| 12:26.55 | Jenson | dank_work: I was about to, but you told me zimm was here |
| 12:26.56 | zimm | Leeds: lol |
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| 12:27.14 | CyrilB | hi |
| 12:27.24 | dank_work | Yeah. And he's obviously worth not getting dressed over. |
| 12:27.27 | Jenson | hey CyrilB |
| 12:27.27 | dank_work | Hi CyrilB |
| 12:27.29 | Leeds | hey CyrilB, long time no see... how's it going? |
| 12:27.45 | Jenson | dank_work: Well zimm can't see me, if he was actually at my house, I'd have my clothes on |
| 12:27.59 | CyrilB | Leeds: I was in Russia for a month |
| 12:28.00 | dank_work | True. But you could've got dressed before coming online |
| 12:28.07 | CyrilB | I just came back yesterday |
| 12:28.24 | dank_work | Cool. How was it? |
| 12:28.25 | CyrilB | It was so nice |
| 12:29.05 | CyrilB | very interesting and so ... different |
| 12:29.06 | Leeds | CyrilB: ah yes, I forgot |
| 12:29.17 | CyrilB | I took few pictures, I'll put them online tomorrow I think |
| 12:29.27 | CyrilB | cyb@wide:~$ find russie/ -type f |wc -l |
| 12:29.28 | CyrilB | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:29.36 | CyrilB | well... five hundreds pictures :) |
| 12:29.51 | dank_work | Ice cream? Waah. |
| 12:29.53 | dank_work | I want some. |
| 12:30.01 | zimm | lol |
| 12:30.05 | zimm | you baby dank_work |
| 12:30.10 | Jenson | lol |
| 12:30.24 | Jenson | and spoons |
| 12:30.27 | Jenson | s/or/of |
| 12:30.44 | dank_work | zimm: If you don't want ice-cream, I'll happily hav it. |
| 12:30.45 | dank_work | *have |
| 12:30.49 | dank_work | It's far too hot in here |
| 12:31.03 | Leeds | I have to say that I read that as canal - was wondering why you were dumping it :-) |
| 12:31.21 | dank_work | :) |
| 12:34.06 | dank_work | Do I want a default or custom Slowlaris install? |
| 12:34.32 | Jenson | custom |
| 12:34.45 | Leeds | default is *very* default - it'll decide a lot for you, overwrite existing stuff and so on... I tend to use custom, or completely automated (jumpstart) |
| 12:35.19 | Jenson | Well I can't stay now |
| 12:35.23 | Jenson | I'll catch you tonight guys |
| 12:35.35 | Leeds | seeya |
| 12:35.37 | Jenson | seeya |
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| 12:36.41 | Leeds | slack at home, solaris at work, the way the lord meant it to be :-) |
| 12:37.14 | dank_work | OS X at home (main machine), FreeBSD at work |
| 12:37.44 | Leeds | as I've said before, I'd ru OS X, but I can't (bring myself to) afford the hardware |
| 12:39.05 | dank_work | It's only slightly more than a good quality PC |
| 12:40.06 | dank_work | What Solaris Software group do I want to intall? |
| 12:40.09 | dank_work | The whole ot? |
| 12:40.10 | Leeds | right, but it's a *lot* more than a cheap PC, and I haven't actually bought a system in years... I can put together a PC for under 500 quid |
| 12:40.10 | dank_work | *lot |
| 12:40.15 | Leeds | I'd say whole lot |
| 12:40.16 | dank_work | True.. |
| 12:40.20 | dank_work | Plus OEM? |
| 12:40.26 | dank_work | Or not Plus OEM? |
| 12:41.39 | Leeds | I'd say all of it, unless you're short on disk... you can always remove stuff later if you feel the need |
| 12:42.47 | dank_work | "Required: 1926MB"; "Selected disk space: 8692MB" |
| 12:42.50 | dank_work | Plenty of space :) |
| 12:42.58 | Leeds | cool |
| 12:46.16 | dank_work | Right. Disk partitioning time. Fun. |
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| 12:59.11 | Leeds | hey skugg |
| 13:00.07 | dank_work | hullo skugg |
| 13:01.37 | skugg | hi Leeds & dank_work |
| 13:01.40 | skugg | how's it going? |
| 13:01.58 | dank_work | Solaris doesn't want to allow me to edit my disk slicing |
| 13:02.53 | skugg | hm. |
| 13:03.20 | skugg | disk slicing, as in lvm or evms? |
| 13:03.29 | skugg | or raid? |
| 13:03.34 | dank_work | As in BSD slicing, rather than partitioning |
| 13:05.31 | Leeds | dank_work: not sure... did you select a drive for slicing? |
| 13:06.36 | dank_work | Ahh. Yes. Works now. |
| 13:06.48 | skugg | what is bsd slicing? |
| 13:07.06 | dank_work | With Sol8, if I install iPlanet / SunONE Directory Services 5.1 separately, where will it stick itself? |
| 13:07.10 | dank_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:07.25 | dank_work | skugg: The equivalent(ish) of partitioning |
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| 13:08.12 | Leeds | dunno... should be /opt |
| 13:08.18 | dank_work | Okay. |
| 13:08.41 | Leeds | but *I dunno* - that's just an educated guess |
| 13:09.05 | Leeds | you need a chunk of space in /opt for the Companion CD too, don't forget :-) |
| 13:09.07 | dank_work | Ah wel. |
| 13:09.11 | dank_work | There's always 'ln' |
| 13:09.22 | dank_work | 2 to /usr |
| 13:09.24 | dank_work | etc. |
| 13:09.48 | Leeds | should be enough |
| 13:10.05 | dank_work | Okay :) |
| 13:10.14 | dank_work | Hopefully Oracle will install itself into /opt |
| 13:11.07 | Leeds | <accent country=spain type=silly>I know nothing</accent> |
| 13:11.16 | dank_work | I learn it from a boook! |
| 13:12.10 | Leeds | ibot formi |
| 13:12.10 | | from memory, formi is its-formi other personality |
| 13:22.10 | Davilion | heh |
| 13:23.03 | dank_work | :) |
| 13:23.14 | skugg | Davilion, hey |
| 13:23.20 | skugg | :) |
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| 13:28.26 | Leeds | speak of the devil :-) |
| 13:32.01 | dank_work | wb Huhn |
| 13:32.12 | Huhn | danke dank_work :) |
| 13:32.32 | dank_work | :) |
| 13:32.39 | Davilion | hi skugg |
| 13:32.40 | dank_work | Doing better today than yesterday? |
| 13:34.07 | Davilion | yes ive taken a day of doing real work to file my expenses |
| 13:34.10 | Davilion | its a flipping nightmare |
| 13:34.48 | dank_work | Fun fun fun. |
| 13:36.33 | Davilion | yeah |
| 13:36.35 | Davilion | but i need the money |
| 13:36.41 | Davilion | so far im up to 3.5k |
| 13:36.46 | dank_work | Lots. |
| 13:36.48 | zimm | Davilion: dank_work says you are bisexual .. is this true ? |
| 13:36.50 | formi | hiya |
| 13:36.59 | Davilion | not entirely. |
| 13:37.01 | dank_work | Jenson said that. |
| 13:37.17 | Davilion | jenson seems to think i am. |
| 13:37.18 | skugg | heh |
| 13:37.19 | dank_work | I have not asked anything like that. |
| 13:37.31 | zimm | Davilion: so , you arent |
| 13:37.38 | Davilion | no |
| 13:37.44 | dank_work | So why does Jenson think you are? |
| 13:38.03 | Davilion | because i can appreciate that some guys look nice and others dont. |
| 13:38.03 | zimm | ahaha |
| 13:38.23 | dank_work | Err...but isn't everyone like that, though? |
| 13:38.39 | zimm | hahah dank_work is bi |
| 13:38.59 | zimm | dank_work: see .. i told you he wasnt |
| 13:39.02 | dank_work | It's easy to say that some guy could be regarded as good-looking, without having any crush on them |
| 13:39.09 | Leeds | yeah |
| 13:39.40 | Leeds | there's a different between being attracted to someone and appreciating that they are attractive |
| 13:39.51 | dank_work | zimm: I never said anything. It was Jenson who did |
| 13:40.12 | dank_work | Davilion: So Jenson thinks you're bi just because you say that you can appreciate that some guys are good looking? |
| 13:40.14 | zimm | yeh its like appreciating taht macs are nice , or actually wanting to spend money on one |
| 13:40.27 | dank_work | :) |
| 13:40.31 | formi | there is a difference between being "average brit girl" and something called taste |
| 13:40.54 | Leeds | zimm :-) |
| 13:41.04 | zimm | dank_work: filthy filthy mind |
| 13:41.13 | dank_work | Me!? |
| 13:41.18 | zimm | yes you |
| 13:41.36 | dank_work | Ask my girlfriend. |
| 13:41.39 | dank_work | She'll tell you. |
| 13:41.43 | Davilion | dank_work: im sure theres more to it than that, i wouldnt sleep with a guy though which i guess is the decider |
| 13:42.15 | dank_work | That is pretty much the decider, yes. |
| 13:42.34 | formi | dank_work: you are asking for trouble when saying "ask her"... |
| 13:42.48 | Leeds | zimm, meet screen |
| 13:42.54 | dank_work | Well, there's various levels. Like anything between kissing and full-blown sleeping with someone |
| 13:43.03 | dank_work | formi: True.... |
| 13:43.25 | Davilion | i've snogged a guy, but that was just to get rid of a really annoying girl if that makes sense. |
| 13:43.43 | dank_work | It does. |
| 13:43.56 | formi | Davilion: oi, you stole my idea |
| 13:44.18 | dank_work | But presumably that means that you wouldn't go any further than that. In which case, that doesn't make you bi at all. |
| 13:44.59 | formi | dank_work: if you haven't kissed a man with a moustache you don't know |
| 13:45.31 | Davilion | dank_work: not unless she hadnt got the hint. |
| 13:45.41 | Davilion | formi: :) |
| 13:45.49 | dank_work | Davilion: You must have really hated her |
| 13:46.25 | Davilion | she just wouldnt get the hint |
| 13:46.32 | Davilion | i dont suffer people for long when im not in the mood |
| 13:46.43 | dank_work | Yeah, but I take it that you wouldn't normally want to do that? |
| 13:46.46 | Davilion | so that was nicer than getting really wound up |
| 13:47.11 | Davilion | i wouldnt go up to a random guy and kiss them no. |
| 13:47.33 | dank_work | okay. |
| 13:47.42 | formi | Leeds: have you ever compiled gaim without gnome support? |
| 13:47.53 | zimm | dank_work: sounds awkward |
| 13:48.02 | Leeds | formi: probably, since I don't use gnome... |
| 13:48.10 | dank_work | Only when she keeps going on about how bi someone is, when they're not |
| 13:48.32 | Leeds | or maybe not... apparently I have gnome support compiled in |
| 13:48.38 | Davilion | morcanna? |
| 13:48.50 | dank_work | Davilion: /join #morcanna |
| 13:50.14 | formi | Leeds: I compiled it without gnome support and when I run it I got something like "gnome launcher" missing |
| 13:51.25 | Leeds | formi: dunno, really |
| 13:53.20 | formi | Leeds: me neither, really |
| 13:53.55 | Leeds | I've got the gnome stuff installed, from when I installed my system |
| 13:55.21 | dank_work | Oooh. CDE. How loverly. |
| 13:56.40 | formi | Leeds: I've got the gnome libraries, only, galeon, xchat, gedit, ... work without trouble |
| 13:57.02 | zimm | dank_work: lol |
| 13:57.09 | dank_work | Oi. Leeds. ssh for Sol8. |
| 13:57.11 | dank_work | Where? |
| 13:59.02 | Leeds | sunfreeware.com |
| 13:59.05 | skugg | ah well, I'm off now I guess |
| 13:59.18 | skugg | will be back later |
| 14:00.21 | dank_work | bye skugg |
| 14:00.38 | dank_work | Thanks. |
| 14:01.10 | dank_work | Now. Why, when I run 'useradd', does it say 'Unable to create the home directory: Operation not applicable'? |
| 14:01.13 | Leeds | getting to lunchtime |
| 14:01.24 | Leeds | using NIS and/or NFS home directories? |
| 14:01.29 | dank_work | No |
| 14:01.42 | Leeds | where is it trying to make the home directory? |
| 14:02.00 | dank_work | Should be /export/home |
| 14:02.09 | Leeds | you may have to tell it that... |
| 14:03.55 | dank_work | I did. Still said that |
| 14:05.09 | dank_work | Right. That'll do. Time to replug it into the server room |
| 14:25.51 | Leeds | mmm... chicken |
| 14:26.47 | Leeds | well, it tastes like chicken, anyway... |
| 14:28.47 | dank_work | so does chicken |
| 14:29.19 | Leeds | this is actually chicken :-) |
| 14:29.33 | dank_work | Is that why it tastes like chicken? |
| 14:30.25 | Leeds | probably |
| 14:32.32 | Leeds | good chicken... smoked and smothered in BBQ sauce |
| 14:32.45 | dank_work | Right. Where's the file that says what order things should be looked up in? |
| 14:33.18 | dank_work | (i.e. hosts, dns) |
| 14:34.01 | Davilion | /etc/nsswhich.conf |
| 14:34.20 | dank_work | Danke |
| 14:34.34 | dank_work | Ah. Yes. Thought so |
| 14:35.28 | formi | Leeds: I'll be polite by not saying anything about *en |
| 14:35.40 | skugg | hi again :) |
| 14:36.04 | skugg | could anybody be so kind and have a look at my cv and give me some feedback? |
| 14:36.05 | formi | hi skugg |
| 14:36.11 | skugg | brautaset.org/cv |
| 14:36.27 | dank_work | Sure |
| 14:36.29 | dank_work | One mom |
| 14:36.41 | skugg | dank_work, stole a bit of layout-things from yours ;) |
| 14:36.47 | dank_work | That's fine :) |
| 14:37.40 | dank_work | Leeds: If I edit nsswitch.conf, how do I make the changed take effect? |
| 14:38.07 | Leeds | I don't think you need to do anything |
| 14:38.34 | Leeds | maybe restart nscd... but I don't think so |
| 14:39.42 | dank_work | Okay |
| 14:40.54 | Leeds | working? |
| 14:41.39 | zachary | bbl |
| 14:41.41 | dank_work | I did a 'kill -HUP nscd' |
| 14:41.48 | dank_work | (or rather, the process ID) |
| 14:42.00 | dank_work | But if I ping www.google.com, I still get an unknown host |
| 14:43.26 | Leeds | using DNS? is resolv.conf setup right? |
| 14:44.38 | dank_work | yeah |
| 14:44.45 | dank_work | I can run 'nslookup', and it picks it up |
| 14:45.05 | dank_work | bash-2.03# cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 14:45.05 | dank_work | nameserver 192.168.64.3 |
| 14:45.30 | eye69 | dank_work: I got that trying to connect to a host from work. |
| 14:45.58 | Leeds | if you lookup www.google.com and try to ping the IP, does it work? |
| 14:45.59 | eye69 | If you do a 'host domain.tld' and then try to ping it, does that work? |
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| 14:46.08 | eye69 | Is there an echo in here? |
| 14:46.14 | Leeds | is there and echo in here? |
| 14:46.15 | dpash | not satellite yes |
| 14:46.17 | Leeds | argh! |
| 14:46.26 | dpash | but I'm risking connecting anyway |
| 14:46.27 | eye69 | Leeds: :) |
| 14:46.27 | dank_work | Yes |
| 14:46.27 | Leeds | typing too quickly :-) |
| 14:46.33 | dank_work | bash-2.03# ping 216.239.33.100 |
| 14:46.33 | dank_work | ICMP Host redirect from gateway 192.168.64.254 |
| 14:46.33 | dank_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:46.33 | dank_work | ICMP Host redirect from gateway 192.168.64.1 |
| 14:46.33 | dank_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:46.35 | dank_work | 216.239.33.100 is alive |
| 14:46.49 | eye69 | dank_work: Try to ping it a few times. |
| 14:47.16 | dank_work | bash-2.03# grep host /etc/nsswitch.conf |
| 14:47.16 | dank_work | # "hosts:" and "services:" in this file are used only if the |
| 14:47.16 | dank_work | hosts: files,dns |
| 14:47.19 | eye69 | dank_work: If you have the same problem as me, the lookup will "disappear" after a few pings. |
| 14:47.20 | dank_work | Is that correct? |
| 14:47.25 | eye69 | dank_work: Yes. |
| 14:47.30 | dank_work | The lookup never was there in the first place |
| 14:47.45 | eye69 | dank_work: Weirdly enough, upgrading to Bind9 on our DNS solved the problem. |
| 14:48.10 | dank_work | Hm. |
| 14:48.17 | dank_work | I'm not prepared to do that, though |
| 14:48.20 | Leeds | does "telnet www.google.com 80" do anything interesting? |
| 14:48.35 | dank_work | bash-2.03# telnet www.google.com 80 |
| 14:48.36 | dank_work | www.google.com: Unknown host |
| 14:48.42 | dank_work | Maybe I should try rebooting? :) |
| 14:48.55 | eye69 | dank_work: No. |
| 14:49.17 | eye69 | dank_work: Do 'host www.google.com' and then telnet www.google.com 80 |
| 14:49.18 | Leeds | but nslookup works? |
| 14:49.29 | dank_work | 'host' doesn't exist. This is Sol8 |
| 14:49.33 | eye69 | Oh |
| 14:49.37 | eye69 | Then use nslookup |
| 14:49.38 | dank_work | bash-2.03# nslookup www.google.com |
| 14:49.38 | dank_work | Server: t3.testing.causeway-tech.com |
| 14:49.38 | dank_work | Address: 192.168.64.3 |
| 14:49.38 | dank_work | Non-authoritative answer: |
| 14:49.38 | dank_work | Name: www.google.com |
| 14:49.40 | dank_work | Address: 216.239.33.100 |
| 14:50.41 | eye69 | dank_work: Then try telnet |
| 14:51.02 | dank_work | Telnet to? |
| 14:51.07 | eye69 | google |
| 14:51.08 | dank_work | google, or the IP address? |
| 14:51.20 | dank_work | bash-2.03# telnet 216.239.33.100 80 |
| 14:51.20 | dank_work | Trying 216.239.33.100... |
| 14:51.20 | dank_work | Connected to 216.239.33.100. |
| 14:51.20 | dank_work | Escape character is '^]'. |
| 14:51.22 | dpash | LOL http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/02/21/1253227&mode=thread&tid=134 |
| 14:51.28 | eye69 | dank_work: Ok, try that a few times. |
| 14:52.09 | dank_work | Maybe I'll just reboot. Start it cleanly. |
| 14:52.23 | eye69 | dank_work: No, try doing it a few times. |
| 14:52.28 | eye69 | Try doing the telnet a few times. |
| 14:52.41 | dank_work | Ah bollocks. I closed the wrong telnet session :) |
| 14:52.43 | eye69 | It _seems_ to be the same symptoms I had. |
| 14:52.48 | Leeds | neither should be necessary... |
| 14:53.12 | Leeds | dpash: I did originally read that as "Woz and Jobs like the PIM from Ximian" :-) |
| 14:53.27 | eye69 | I don't know, but in the Linux nsswitch.conf there's no "," between files and dns |
| 14:53.39 | eye69 | hosts: files dns |
| 14:53.49 | dank_work | Ahhh... |
| 14:53.59 | Leeds | eye69: good call! |
| 14:54.12 | dank_work | Leeds: You said my line looked okay. You lied! |
| 14:54.40 | eye69 | I had more or less the same problem as you, and upgrading to Bind9 on our main DNS solved it. I don't have the slightest clue as to why though. |
| 14:54.44 | Leeds | dank_work: no, eye69 said that :-) |
| 14:54.56 | dank_work | Okay. He lied! |
| 14:55.09 | eye69 | It was only one host that we had problems connecting to though. |
| 14:55.10 | dank_work | No double-burger for him at the post-Installfest pub |
| 14:55.11 | murb | some one though i had *just* 2 or 3 irc channels open... |
| 14:55.25 | eye69 | dank_work: :( |
| 14:59.44 | dpash | dialup sucks |
| 14:59.50 | dpash | or just mine |
| 15:00.04 | dank_work | Mine does too |
| 15:00.13 | dank_work | (ADSL went titsup last night) |
| 15:00.28 | dank_work | Aha. |
| 15:00.36 | dank_work | There should be a space, not a comma |
| 15:01.04 | eye69 | Heh |
| 15:01.12 | eye69 | Sorry for misleading you. :) |
| 15:01.17 | dank_work | Bah :-P |
| 15:01.26 | dank_work | bloody Finnish |
| 15:01.49 | Leeds | I've had a new analogue line put in this morning, so I can get company-paid-for ADSL put it :-) :-) :-) It's BTopenworld :-( :-( |
| 15:02.01 | dank_work | That still comes down to one :-) |
| 15:02.23 | dank_work | Causeway pays for my ADSL |
| 15:02.38 | dank_work | (sorry, eye69 ) |
| 15:02.46 | dpash | Leeds: do they have to be BT? |
| 15:02.52 | Leeds | I used to have company ISDN... but that seemed silly after I got ADSL put in myself |
| 15:03.01 | Leeds | dpash: yup - it's all corporate-contracty |
| 15:07.57 | dpash | Leeds: BT are the worst company for ADSL I have seen |
| 15:08.16 | Leeds | maybe I'll keep my Freeserve account live for a bit too :-) |
| 15:09.14 | murb | Leeds: I'm sure i know sun people who are havnig demon adsl paid for. |
| 15:09.32 | murb | s/sure/*know*/ |
| 15:09.43 | Leeds | murb: names? |
| 15:09.58 | dank_work | Why can't you get Sun to just pay for your existing ADSL? |
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| 15:10.46 | Leeds | dank_work: far too complex - if they had to pay for everyone's individual accounts, they'd have hundreds of bills to pay (or hundreds of regular expense requests), as opposed to one big bill from BT |
| 15:10.54 | dank_work | Ah right. |
| 15:11.26 | formi | which on the age of computers is so difficult |
| 15:12.39 | Leeds | I would guess the problem is paperwork for auditing and so on... |
| 15:13.13 | Leeds | and if the account is in my name, I'd have to pay it and claim it back - Sun couldn't pay it for me - as opposed to having a phone line and ADSL account in Sun's name, in my flat |
| 15:13.18 | dank_work | Can't you pay, and get Sun to give *you* the money? |
| 15:13.31 | formi | excuses should be expected from a dinousaur age co, like all the phone providers |
| 15:14.30 | Leeds | dank_work: that's the problem - they'd have to pay hundreds of people, different amounts depending on the ISP, and be able to trace all the money |
| 15:14.44 | dank_work | That's why they have an accounts department |
| 15:14.53 | Leeds | they *could* pay for lots of individual accounts, but it's much much easier to deal with one big one |
| 15:16.16 | Leeds | that's just the way large companies work - I very much doubt that we're paying BT the retail price for the account, we should be getting a bulk discount |
| 15:22.23 | murb | Huhn: so you'll be coming for beer on friday evening then? |
| 15:22.30 | murb | s/friday/next &/ |
| 15:22.45 | formi | http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/Linux4women.jpg |
| 15:23.44 | stephen | lol formi, just make sure jenson or Huhn don't see that ;) |
| 15:24.29 | Huhn | ah, I know the pic |
| 15:24.31 | formi | http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/EarlyWarningSign.jpg |
| 15:24.50 | formi | that one would be of more interest for women |
| 15:25.23 | Huhn | formi: now that's what I call true love: http://www.schlabonski.de/zwiebeltuete.html |
| 15:25.27 | formi | the first one I did laugh at it |
| 15:25.39 | formi | but I don't consider it sexist |
| 15:25.53 | Huhn | the guy with the PDP11 is completely crazy |
| 15:27.42 | formi | I wouldn't take my bare bits near any electrical equipment |
| 15:28.23 | formi | Huhn: http://unixsex.com/admins/ has a few funny ones, |
| 15:28.24 | Huhn | he is pretty famous in the German geek community |
| 15:28.37 | Leeds | you seem to take your bare bits everywhere else... |
| 15:28.48 | Huhn | formi: :) |
| 15:29.00 | murb | who do i have to kill to get my free linux magazine magazines? |
| 15:29.16 | Leeds | murb: I suggest starting with yourself |
| 15:29.26 | formi | my bits are the same bare or covered |
| 15:30.20 | formi | even tough certain bit might experience a change depending on whom takes it out |
| 15:32.01 | murb | Leeds: but that won't help.. |
| 15:32.37 | formi | murb: I suggest you don't bother, the Internet has it all. |
| 15:32.49 | Huhn | formi: the page is great, thanks ;)) rotflmao |
| 15:33.12 | murb | formi: But i want the valuable free cd |
| 15:33.18 | murb | sorry subscribers cd |
| 15:33.35 | murb | and there is now ponit annoucing someone has won somthign then not even contacting them to get their address to send the prize. |
| 15:33.47 | murb | it causes lots of disapointment. |
| 15:33.59 | formi | ok |
| 15:34.21 | formi | it is you money or not if you get away with it |
| 15:35.03 | formi | Huhn: i get all these links from #freebsd, they tend to swap them from time to time |
| 15:36.19 | Huhn | formi: the whole office here is laughing.. great, make my Friday afternoon! :) |
| 15:37.04 | formi | Huhn: nice |
| 15:37.43 | formi | http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/Evil_Germany.jpg |
| 15:37.59 | formi | there is a better one in barcelona |
| 15:39.11 | Huhn | formi: !!!! |
| 15:39.56 | formi | careful with the obtuse yanks |
| 15:41.21 | formi | http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/kama_sutra/013.jpg |
| 15:41.41 | formi | that is worth checking, for some late people though |
| 15:42.42 | Davilion | can you get sed to work on a file? rather than a pipe? |
| 15:43.28 | dank_work | Yeah |
| 15:43.35 | Leeds | sure |
| 15:43.36 | dank_work | Or what about just 'cat foo | sed' ? |
| 15:43.37 | Huhn | Davilion: yes, use the -f option |
| 15:43.49 | Leeds | or just sed -e "foo-script" filename |
| 15:44.06 | Davilion | dank_work: cos i need it to change a line in fstab |
| 15:44.50 | Leeds | it doesn't, generally, edit-in-place - it is a *stream* editor, afterall |
| 15:45.44 | Davilion | dank_work: i've been using vi, but ive got 60 machines to change |
| 15:46.07 | Davilion | redhat doesnt always get its fstab to correctly correspond with its swap partition |
| 15:46.09 | dank_work | ssh dave@other.machine vi /etc/fstab |
| 15:46.50 | dank_work | Hm |
| 15:48.07 | Leeds | sed -e "foo" /etc/fstab > /tmp/fstab ; mv /tmp/fstab /etc/fstab |
| 15:52.57 | dank_work | pwd |
| 15:53.23 | formi_brb | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:53.30 | dank_work | Sorry. Wrong window |
| 15:54.00 | formi | from The Mirror, 7 out 10 uk ppl speak a 2nd language |
| 15:54.16 | formi | and also "Formi is the Pope" |
| 15:54.17 | dank_work | How well 'speak'? |
| 15:54.35 | Leeds | yeah, but from the Mirror, most of probably speak English as a 2nd language, since this country is being overrun by brown people |
| 15:55.25 | dank_work | Oooh :) |
| 15:55.44 | formi | also they say "pc companies are threating with leaving the country" |
| 15:56.09 | formi | because off all the gear being nicked from lorries, airports, warehouses... |
| 15:57.25 | Leeds | isn't it because of all the stealth taxes brought in by the current government and the eurocratic way the businesses are regulated? |
| 16:07.49 | murb | hmm NY is burning |
| 16:08.44 | skugg | murb, you think of the Rhode Island nightclub? |
| 16:08.49 | skugg | at cnn.com? |
| 16:09.10 | Leeds | nope - there's an oil refinery in NY on file |
| 16:09.42 | Leeds | fire |
| 16:09.55 | skugg | i see |
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| 16:12.13 | *** join/#gllug ]DSM[Woody|tuX (~Axel@asegebrecht.plus.com) |
| 16:12.25 | ]DSM[Woody|tuX | grml |
| 16:14.58 | dank_work | Heh |
| 16:23.55 | Leeds | fnargle |
| 16:24.18 | formi | wabis? |
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| 16:29.37 | dank_work | xyzzy |
| 16:30.16 | Davilion | uh huh |
| 16:30.21 | formi | onks |
| 16:34.13 | dank_work | heh |
| 16:38.31 | dank_work | Anyone got any spare sattelite cards that we could borrow for Monday? |
| 16:39.16 | dank_work | (for sat. 'net connections) |
| 16:40.01 | dank_work | The supplier for the hardware at a tradeshow on Monday has suddenly said they can't do it. Half an hour ago. |
| 16:41.39 | Davilion | lmao |
| 16:41.44 | formi | sad microBSD has shut down, osnews.com |
| 16:41.44 | Davilion | oops wrong channel |
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| 16:42.33 | zimm | fscker fscker fscker fscker |
| 16:42.41 | zimm | they disabled my account again the cunts |
| 16:43.45 | dank_work | Aww |
| 16:44.12 | zimm | grrr |
| 16:44.17 | zimm | fsckers |
| 16:44.26 | dank_work | Why did they disable it? |
| 16:44.31 | zimm | they disabled the account WHILE i was logged IN ! |
| 16:44.41 | dank_work | Eek |
| 16:44.55 | zimm | oh cos they forgot to tell the update script on the network to not update my re-enabled status . |
| 16:45.02 | zimm | so i have no login till next week ! |
| 16:45.04 | dank_work | Bah |
| 16:45.13 | dank_work | So I guess we'll see you on Monday? |
| 16:45.24 | zimm | fsckin hope so |
| 16:45.28 | zimm | grrr grrr |
| 16:45.32 | dank_work | Or use someone else's |
| 16:45.33 | zimm | man this sucks |
| 16:45.41 | zimm | nah , he's getting pissy with me .. |
| 16:45.43 | dank_work | Aye |
| 16:45.45 | dank_work | Ah. |
| 16:46.00 | zimm | its not like he ever uses th damn thing anyway . |
| 16:46.01 | dank_work | You could just *shock horror* not IRC :) |
| 16:46.06 | zimm | and he hasnt told me the password . |
| 16:46.18 | zimm | HERETIC !!! |
| 16:46.22 | zimm | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:46.25 | zimm | lol |
| 16:46.28 | zimm | i must IRC .. |
| 16:46.31 | zimm | i muuuuuust |
| 16:46.35 | dank_work | Noooo :) |
| 16:46.45 | zimm | damn this place closes at 5pm today too !!1 |
| 16:46.48 | zimm | bollox .. |
| 16:46.54 | zimm | guess im off again then lol |
| 16:46.56 | zimm | grrrr |
| 16:46.57 | dank_work | I'm sure you'll cope a weekend without IRC |
| 16:47.03 | zimm | oh ill have IRC .. |
| 16:47.10 | zimm | im going to wolverhampton lol |
| 16:47.13 | dank_work | Wolv? |
| 16:47.13 | zimm | muahahah |
| 16:47.15 | dank_work | What's there? |
| 16:47.17 | zimm | dial up though |
| 16:47.22 | dank_work | Better than nothing |
| 16:47.27 | zimm | err , lol , my gay friends .. |
| 16:47.37 | zimm | its phils 30th Bday |
| 16:47.44 | dank_work | Heh :) |
| 16:47.55 | dank_work | So you're up for a good time? *nudge nudge* |
| 16:48.00 | zimm | yeh yeh yeh .. |
| 16:48.02 | dank_work | :) |
| 16:48.11 | zimm | whatever ..(in sarcastic california accent) |
| 16:48.27 | dank_work | Like, whatever, like? |
| 16:48.36 | zimm | innit |
| 16:48.44 | zimm | bo-select0r |
| 16:48.51 | zimm | ret im orf then ,, |
| 16:49.08 | dank_work | C'ya, then |
| 16:49.10 | dank_work | Take care |
| 16:49.18 | zimm | cya |
| 16:49.20 | *** part/#gllug zimm (ht201@gm-dr250-019.gre.ac.uk) |
| 16:51.04 | dank_work | wb Huhn |
| 16:51.11 | Huhn | ty dank_work |
| 16:52.46 | formi | 101 Reasons Why You Can't Find Your System Administrator |
| 16:52.57 | formi | http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/funny/admins.html |
| 16:53.08 | formi | this site is so much fun |
| 16:53.51 | Huhn | :) |
| 16:54.18 | formi | 74: The trauma induced by repeated attempts to install Solaris 2.5 pre-beta on an Intel system has forced him to seek psychotherapy |
| 16:54.43 | dank_work | :) |
| 16:56.11 | formi | # The admin just found out he had a two-month-old child, and is getting re-acquainted with his SO (and the new child) |
| 16:56.35 | stephen | -froo/Wallops- $ /me slaps Huhn with a hammer |
| 16:57.47 | Huhn | stephen? |
| 16:58.44 | stephen | don't worry, it was from quakenet |
| 16:58.56 | stephen | just a random wallop |
| 16:59.00 | Huhn | why? |
| 16:59.06 | stephen | dunno |
| 17:00.00 | Huhn | *shrug* |
| 17:07.35 | dank_work | So, er, no-one has a satellite Internet card we could borrow? |
| 17:10.09 | Huhn | nope |
| 17:12.25 | dank_work | Bwah |
| 17:12.35 | Davilion | can anybody recommend a laptop case manufacturer? |
| 17:13.09 | formi | check morgancomputers.co.uk |
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| 17:39.18 | dank_work | Hullo, modem person |
| 17:39.29 | zimm | modem ? |
| 17:39.33 | dank_work | Or ADSL? |
| 17:39.40 | zimm | internet cafe innit |
| 17:39.44 | dank_work | Is it? |
| 17:39.46 | dank_work | Okay. |
| 17:39.47 | zimm | it is |
| 17:39.47 | dank_work | :) |
| 17:39.54 | dank_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.54 | dank_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.59 | dank_work | Just presumed. |
| 17:40.03 | zimm | well , ive got fsck all to do when i gho home lol |
| 17:40.11 | zimm | ahh |
| 17:40.12 | dank_work | Tidy up? |
| 17:40.23 | zimm | i have no possessions to make a mess with |
| 17:40.29 | zimm | and ive only been therte a week |
| 17:40.33 | dank_work | Ah. |
| 17:40.34 | dank_work | Find some. |
| 17:40.39 | dank_work | Then make a mess, and tidy up |
| 17:40.39 | zimm | and i did all my laundry last night |
| 17:40.42 | dank_work | :) |
| 17:41.10 | zimm | win NT is mank innit |
| 17:41.48 | zimm | hehe at least xchat 2 installed |
| 17:42.31 | zimm | lol |
| 17:42.57 | zimm | hehe |
| 17:43.02 | skugg | they were pretty vile |
| 17:43.12 | skugg | now sleeping is a pleasure again |
| 17:43.36 | dank_work | :) |
| 17:43.41 | zimm | furniture , hmm , need some of that |
| 17:43.57 | dank_work | Hometime |
| 17:44.00 | zimm | laters |
| 17:44.44 | skugg | heh, i rent it. i own a chair (that needs replacing) a stereo and a few computers... oh, and stackable plastic boxes for storing things :) |
| 17:44.54 | skugg | later dan, |
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| 17:54.31 | CLIENT15 | why ?? |
| 17:54.49 | zimm | why do I always get the one machine that times out |
| 17:54.56 | zimm | even in a bloody cafe |
| 18:00.52 | Davilion | lmao |
| 18:01.05 | zimm | bah |
| 18:01.17 | zimm | its got a foreign keyboard too |
| 18:01.24 | zimm | took me ages to find # |
| 18:01.36 | zimm | now i keep hitting it asll the damn time |
| 18:02.09 | Davilion | heheh i feel your pain |
| 18:02.27 | zimm | i NEED adsl at home .. like REALLY |
| 18:02.44 | Davilion | dont tell me, everytime you hit enter you get a # and everytime you press ^H you get a ¬` |
| 18:03.02 | zimm | err , yeh , and when i try to backspace i get =# |
| 18:03.20 | zimm | and the little legs are snapped so its a dead funny angle |
| 18:03.30 | zimm | i could go on .. |
| 18:03.49 | zimm | bvut i shall be stong, refrain . and walk oiut wthout paying |
| 18:03.58 | Davilion | attaboy |
| 18:04.05 | zimm | :) |
| 18:04.27 | zimm | mind , a quid for an hour aint bad ., lol |
| 18:07.37 | zimm | winNT though , im not sure how long i can stand this |
| 18:07.52 | zimm | why cant cyber cafe's run linux |
| 18:10.06 | Leeds | some do... |
| 18:10.25 | zimm | hmm ,, never found one |
| 18:10.36 | Davilion | gllugcafe? |
| 18:10.39 | Davilion | linuxcafe? |
| 18:10.39 | zimm | actually .. hardly ever go into them |
| 18:10.48 | Davilion | heh my MD is cracking its so funny |
| 18:10.50 | zimm | Davilion: wanna set one up ? |
| 18:11.03 | zimm | i can probably blag the capital |
| 18:11.48 | zimm | hmm ,,, |
| 18:12.27 | zimm | anone wanna set up a doomed linux cafe with someone elses money , pay tehmselves a load of cash and leave the ciuntry .. |
| 18:12.29 | zimm | >>>?? |
| 18:12.52 | eye69 | zimm: Sure. |
| 18:13.01 | zimm | sweet ,, |
| 18:13.02 | eye69 | Sounds like something I would need at the moment. |
| 18:13.08 | zimm | how much do you wreckon we need |
| 18:13.21 | zimm | 40k ? more ? |
| 18:13.32 | eye69 | At least. Each. |
| 18:13.37 | zimm | yeh .. |
| 18:13.47 | zimm | hmm , so 100k startup costs .. |
| 18:14.01 | zimm | bankrup[t after 6 months ,, |
| 18:14.16 | zimm | sell ourselves all the equipment at 99% depreciation |
| 18:14.44 | zimm | hmm ,, could work .. |
| 18:15.09 | zimm | gotta be a plc ... |
| 18:15.18 | zimm | but you can buy plc's for 80 quid |
| 18:15.24 | zimm | ltd rather |
| 18:15.45 | zimm | 5k fdort |
| 18:15.47 | zimm | grr |
| 18:16.06 | zimm | 5k for a talented accountant |
| 18:16.20 | zimm | eye69: got a premises ? |
| 18:16.53 | eye69 | I'm sure we could find something. |
| 18:19.30 | zimm | -zimm- VERSION xchat 2.0.0 Windows 4.0 [i686/397MHz] <<< woohoo impressive innit |
| 18:19.49 | stephen | fscking hell, my connection is screwed |
| 18:19.55 | zimm | muahaha] |
| 18:20.21 | stephen | trying to ssh, and it sits there for like 2 minutes |
| 18:20.42 | stephen | other people are even having problems reaching internal stuff |
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| 18:22.49 | zimm | stephen: hehe |
| 18:23.13 | zimm | stephen: at least your account isnt disbled every 2 days |
| 18:32.19 | stephen | tbh, i very rarely use the uni's computers |
| 18:35.49 | zimm | yeh , well im kinda forced to at the mo .. |
| 18:35.52 | zimm | and it sux |
| 18:39.34 | agk | http://www.out-law.com/php/page.php?page_id=operapitsmuppet1045487770&area=n (opera/MSN/Muppets) |
| 18:42.04 | zimm | lol |
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| 18:53.53 | Jenson | hi all |
| 18:54.08 | zimm | heya Jenson |
| 18:54.17 | Jenson | heya zimm |
| 18:56.43 | skugg | okay, I'm off now. bye people! |
| 18:56.50 | zimm | laters skugg |
| 18:57.02 | Jenson | cya skugg |
| 18:58.10 | Davilion | hi Jenson |
| 18:58.19 | Jenson | heya Davilion |
| 19:04.04 | Davilion | how reliable are pizza delivery dudes? i mean, if i order pizza from my office once mr facist security guard has taken over from reception, and theres no lights or obvious ways into my office |
| 19:04.06 | Davilion | will i go hungry? |
| 19:04.19 | zimm | depends ,, |
| 19:04.22 | Jenson | Dammit they got there firdt |
| 19:04.26 | zimm | awww |
| 19:04.30 | Jenson | lol yeah |
| 19:04.41 | Jenson | I could use a suaepan but that requires more stirring |
| 19:04.48 | zimm | eheh |
| 19:04.54 | zimm | what were you gonna cook ? |
| 19:04.55 | Jenson | I'll use a suacepan |
| 19:04.56 | Jenson | BRB |
| 19:05.01 | Jenson | Tinned pasta lol |
| 19:05.03 | zimm | LOL |
| 19:05.07 | Jenson | Grabbed it in tescis |
| 19:05.09 | Jenson | tescos |
| 19:05.11 | zimm | heavy duty cooking there J . |
| 19:05.13 | Jenson | erm right BRB |
| 19:05.41 | Davilion | heh |
| 19:06.10 | zimm | Davilion: email your order to dominoes , ande tell them to call your mobile when they are outside |
| 19:06.40 | zimm | if you still want pizza that is |
| 19:06.41 | Davilion | i could do that |
| 19:06.45 | Davilion | yeah im hungry now |
| 19:06.47 | Davilion | chicken is for much later |
| 19:06.51 | zimm | ahh |
| 19:06.53 | zimm | i see |
| 19:08.31 | Jenson | Back |
| 19:08.40 | Jenson | Had an argument with the tin opener lol |
| 19:08.54 | Jenson | I'm not strong enough to use tinopeners |
| 19:09.03 | Jenson | or so it seems |
| 19:09.15 | zimm | awwww |
| 19:09.17 | zimm | lol |
| 19:09.24 | murb | good evening? |
| 19:09.24 | Jenson | :P |
| 19:09.29 | Jenson | hiya murb |
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| 19:09.48 | Jenson | hey zachary |
| 19:10.05 | zachary | good evening, hi Jenson |
| 19:10.18 | Jenson | awww zimm, I wouldn't, I was thinking about me |
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| 19:12.20 | zimm | wb dankolb |
| 19:12.24 | Jenson | hey dankolb |
| 19:12.37 | dankolb | Hey |
| 19:12.39 | dankolb | Thanks |
| 19:12.40 | zimm | lol |
| 19:12.43 | dankolb | Tell everyone, why not? |
| 19:12.51 | zimm | great effect you have on women dan |
| 19:12.54 | dankolb | :) |
| 19:13.06 | dankolb | Nah. It's too much time spent talking to you that does it. |
| 19:13.06 | dankolb | :) |
| 19:13.17 | zimm | i cant help it if i get her wet . |
| 19:13.22 | zimm | :P |
| 19:13.24 | dankolb | Bah :-P |
| 19:13.38 | dankolb | Yeah, but if you can only do it with.....I'll stop right there. |
| 19:13.48 | zimm | i would,, |
| 19:14.03 | dankolb | This is too off-topic for here. |
| 19:14.24 | Jenson | :) |
| 19:14.33 | Jenson | Shall we gho to #morcanna |
| 19:14.43 | zimm | Jenson: we have |
| 19:14.48 | dankolb | Yeah. |
| 19:14.48 | Jenson | oh lol |
| 19:14.51 | dankolb | We're way ahead of you. |
| 19:14.53 | dankolb | As usual. |
| 19:20.25 | Davilion | ok if i have an absolute positioned box at top right and a floating box which is at present in top left and i want to stop the text from going in the middle of the two whats the best way (a la irvined.co.uk) |
| 19:21.01 | dankolb | Redo your HTML? |
| 19:21.54 | zimm | lol |
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| 19:26.47 | Davilion | yes there is that option |
| 19:26.59 | zimm | lol |
| 19:27.00 | Davilion | its all to do with how to rearange the boxes |
| 19:27.03 | Jenson | hi formi |
| 19:27.54 | dankolb | Mozilla really runs like a constipated shit |
| 19:28.03 | dankolb | Ewwwww! |
| 19:28.05 | zimm | mozilla IS constpated hit |
| 19:28.07 | dankolb | Your webshite is broken. |
| 19:28.56 | dankolb | Don't use CSS. That'll probably fix a lot |
| 19:29.03 | zachary | dankolb: do you have any extra slots. and what kind do you need? |
| 19:29.26 | dankolb | Eh? |
| 19:29.29 | dankolb | Ahh. |
| 19:29.33 | dankolb | Yes, I have an extra slot. |
| 19:29.47 | Jenson | lol dankolb upgrade the processor in your brain tooo |
| 19:30.00 | dankolb | Good idea. |
| 19:30.07 | dankolb | I'll do that when you let me get to bed early |
| 19:30.14 | zachary | I think I have some 32mb PC66 sodimms. |
| 19:30.27 | Jenson | dankolb: I'm not stopping you |
| 19:30.33 | dankolb | I need 256MB |
| 19:30.40 | Davilion | dimm being the operative words |
| 19:30.43 | zimm | LOL |
| 19:31.00 | dankolb | Quack |
| 19:31.23 | Davilion | dankolb: i know, im just arsing around with css and boxes atm |
| 19:31.30 | Davilion | i need it took look reasonable in both moz and lynx |
| 19:31.40 | zimm | lol |
| 19:31.43 | zimm | you messy cow |
| 19:31.54 | Davilion | so far lynx is ok |
| 19:33.14 | Jenson | Davilion: I'll test it in IE, if I CBA to boot into Win |
| 19:33.28 | Davilion | Jenson: its not quite in the testing phase yet |
| 19:34.00 | stephen | tbh, the last page i did, i cheated and used a table to split the screen into two columns |
| 19:34.34 | stephen | fuck i wish my connection wasn't buggered |
| 19:36.06 | Davilion | stephen: tables are bad mkaay |
| 19:36.14 | Davilion | well according to whatever standards some people follow |
| 19:36.37 | Davilion | its better now, i'll just avoid using absolute positioning in an ugly manor |
| 19:37.45 | stephen | yeah, i know, most of the layout already is in css, so when I get a spare afternoon, i'll try and move that into css as well and ditch the <table> once and for all |
| 19:38.18 | zachary | Davilion: The body text is being overlapped by the flatbar.cloth.jpg. Using Konqueror. |
| 19:38.55 | dankolb | Same with Moz |
| 19:38.56 | Davilion | it should be ok now? |
| 19:39.07 | Davilion | its ok with galeon. :( |
| 19:39.54 | zachary | It still overlapping |
| 19:39.57 | dankolb | Davilion: Works for me. |
| 19:40.43 | Davilion | hmm. |
| 19:41.58 | Davilion | works in ie |
| 19:43.00 | formi | hiya |
| 19:43.13 | formi | zachary: leafleating tomorrow? |
| 19:43.30 | zachary | Yes, have you talked to colin? |
| 19:43.45 | formi | nope |
| 19:45.16 | zachary | brb, let me look throught the emails again, I thought he was picking up more from sean. |
| 19:45.35 | formi | ok |
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| 19:47.33 | Jenson | hi qwertzz |
| 19:47.37 | zachary | last email from gllugadmin. colin was meeting sean today. My wife's schedule changed so I'll be there. |
| 19:48.00 | qwertzz | sup jenson |
| 19:48.00 | Jenson | zachary: Didn't fancy distributing leaflets complete with baby then |
| 19:48.04 | Tarragon | Colin picked up things earlier |
| 19:49.31 | formi | so basically it is business as usual at the usual place at the usual hour |
| 19:51.49 | murb | is anyone computerfairing tomorrow? |
| 19:53.33 | zachary | Tarragon: Thanks, Do you know if he had specified a meet up location/time? |
| 19:53.33 | zachary | Jenson: Makes thinks a little difficult |
| 19:54.19 | Tarragon | zachary: Not sure. He is not at home at the moment. |
| 19:57.45 | zachary | murb: That I know of formi, SpudUAway and myself. Anyone else? |
| 19:58.58 | murb | are people planning to have lunch at the hope or anything like that? |
| 19:59.18 | murb | I need to go into work and rebuild a server, but i can do that in the afternoon |
| 19:59.26 | murb | s/rebuild/migrate from NT/ |
| 19:59.31 | qwertzz | doesnt anyone hire linux ppl anymore |
| 20:00.17 | dankolb | Not much |
| 20:00.19 | murb | yes, the British Antartic Survey |
| 20:00.48 | murb | Data manglement person, deadline to apply monday |
| 20:01.00 | dankolb | Are you applying, murb? |
| 20:01.30 | zachary | I don't know the details of tomarrow. But I would be interested in stopping somewhere for a nibble. |
| 20:01.34 | murb | I 'm being defeatist and decideding that their is no chance they'd give me the job. |
| 20:01.46 | murb | s/their/there/ |
| 20:02.14 | qwertzz | murb: data manglement ? |
| 20:04.03 | murb | qwertzz: careers -> http://www.antarctic.ac.uk |
| 20:04.17 | formi | that's what happens after beer |
| 20:04.53 | dankolb | Hmm. Maybe trying to load a web page containing 126 pictures into Mozilla is not a good idea |
| 20:21.15 | zachary | bbl |
| 20:21.35 | Jenson | cya zachary |
| 20:21.58 | dankolb | bye |
| 20:26.41 | Jenson | hey guys you know the whole thing about the M&S site and different browsers? |
| 20:27.57 | dankolb | It's on the mailing list |
| 20:28.03 | Jenson | yeah |
| 20:28.18 | Jenson | it just loaded in konquerer, for about 5 seconds, then went to the disallowed opage |
| 20:42.27 | dankolb | Back later |
| 20:43.17 | Jenson | BBL |
| 20:53.29 | zachary | I'm back |
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| 22:21.38 | zachary | wb dankolb |
| 22:22.17 | dankolb | Thanks |
| 22:24.46 | dankolb | Grrr. |
| 22:25.00 | dankolb | BBC7 RealPlayer stream is screwed up :( |
| 22:25.42 | dankolb | Or rather, screwing up |
| 22:27.33 | SpudUAway | Sounds alright to me, but I've just tuned in. |
| 22:28.03 | dankolb | Ah fuck. IE just crashed. |
| 22:28.27 | SpudUAway | IE!!!!! Cough! Splutter! |
| 22:30.00 | zachary | Let me see, RealPlayer = competition for MediaPlayer = Now f*&king wonder it doesn't work! |
| 22:30.13 | dankolb | Heh. |
| 22:30.18 | zachary | s / know / now |
| 22:30.51 | dankolb | All I did was hit the reload button. |
| 22:31.14 | zachary | no your initial problem was loading IE in the first place :P |
| 22:31.29 | zachary | just playing btw. |
| 22:32.06 | zachary | caugh, slackware, caugh, caugh. |
| 22:33.38 | zachary | I thought they had it working under wine pretty well. |
| 22:33.54 | dankolb | Only under Crossover Office |
| 22:33.58 | dankolb | Anyway, I'm running OS X |
| 22:34.21 | dankolb | I think I need more memory |
| 22:34.45 | zachary | mo memory never hurts:) |
| 22:35.27 | dankolb | Aye |
| 22:38.07 | zachary | What kind of memory you need. You said 256MB right? |
| 22:38.09 | dankolb | Yeah. |
| 22:39.06 | zachary | laptop? |
| 22:40.57 | SpudUAway | It's gotta be the BBC server, I started to get lots of dropouts. I've moved over to cable. |
| 22:41.42 | dankolb | Yeah. |
| 22:41.46 | dankolb | And yes, it's a laptop |
| 22:41.52 | stephen | something's seriously fscked about brookes' network today |
| 22:42.41 | SpudUAway | Hey, 15 Storeys High at 11.30. You've heard 15 Storeys? |
| 22:42.55 | dankolb | No |
| 22:43.15 | dankolb | I need PC-133, 144-pin, 1.25" (or smaller) memory. SO-DIMM |
| 22:43.16 | SpudUAway | You've gotta listen, well funny. |
| 22:43.31 | dankolb | I'll try. |
| 22:45.28 | SpudUAway | If you can't I'll just have to get you some recordings. |
| 22:45.41 | dankolb | Okay. |
| 22:45.53 | dankolb | I might decide to go to bed before, though. |
| 22:45.58 | dankolb | Esp. as this stream is being screwed up |
| 22:46.00 | zachary | dankolb: k-byte 256MB, pc133, 144pin, about 25GBP. |
| 22:47.02 | dankolb | That's not bad. |
| 22:47.06 | dankolb | SO-DIMM? |
| 22:47.15 | zachary | yes |
| 22:49.00 | zachary | 512MB for about 72 |
| 22:49.35 | dankolb | Not bad |
| 22:50.03 | dankolb | But I think that 512MB RAM should be enough |
| 22:56.15 | zachary | I'm off to bed, SpudUAway: I'll print the covers tomarrow morning. See ya later. |
| 22:56.26 | SpudUAway | nn |
| 22:58.30 | eye69 | See if I show up tomorrow. |
| 22:58.37 | eye69 | I need to meet people |
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