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00:27.22 | dankolb | 'night all |
00:27.35 | stephen | night dankolb |
00:40.03 | highbury | ahh, well, we were spared X/CDE config questions at least :-) |
01:11.40 | highbury | nite folk |
01:12.22 | stephen | would I be right in assuming that the value in /proc/sys/fs/file-max, is the maximum number of files that can be open at once? |
01:18.22 | murble | highbury: that iis't going to happen since formi hasn't got a monitor o it. |
01:46.38 | eye69 | stephen: Yes |
01:46.55 | eye69 | stephen: It's easiest changed with sysctl |
01:47.15 | eye69 | stephen: Do you have /etc/sysctl.conf ? |
01:47.54 | stephen | no |
01:48.05 | eye69 | Ok |
01:48.10 | eye69 | 'sysctl' ? |
01:48.22 | stephen | i've echoed a higher value into /proc/sys/fs/file-max |
01:48.55 | stephen | yeah, sysctl works |
01:49.01 | eye69 | stephen: Run 'sysctl -a' |
01:49.56 | stephen | k, it shows the same values as under /proc |
01:50.15 | eye69 | Create a file called /etc/sysctl.conf, add 'sysctl -p' in your startup files |
01:50.47 | stephen | what does that do? |
01:50.55 | eye69 | In sysctl.conf you just add fs/file-max = value |
01:51.12 | eye69 | Then anything you add in sysctl.conf will be actioned every time you boot |
01:51.34 | stephen | /proc gets overwritten? |
01:52.09 | eye69 | Proc doesn't contain real files. |
01:52.23 | eye69 | It's a runtime mounted virtual filesystem |
01:52.49 | eye69 | Nothing you write to any file there will be saved on reboot |
01:53.33 | stephen | eye69: ok, what values would you recommend for a PIII 800, >700mb RAM server? |
01:53.37 | eye69 | Scrap syslog.conf :) |
01:53.49 | stephen | k |
01:54.02 | eye69 | That depends on what you run on it. There's not a lot of things that warrant changing that value at all. |
01:54.35 | stephen | I think it's going to be a shell server, so probably quite a few BNCs |
01:55.03 | eye69 | What is it now? |
01:55.22 | stephen | it hit a 8192 limit |
01:55.30 | stephen | with virtually nothing running |
01:55.37 | eye69 | 32768 will be quite safe |
01:55.50 | eye69 | Hmmmm...that should _not_ happen |
01:56.03 | eye69 | In that case you should check with 'lsof' what files are open |
01:56.08 | eye69 | There might be something wrong |
01:56.13 | stephen | yeah, that's what i've temporarily set it to |
01:56.23 | stephen | the box had to be rebooted |
01:56.32 | stephen | so unfortunately there wont be any info |
02:03.43 | stephen | cheers eye69, I'll definitely have to buy you a pint on Saturday, or whenever we get to meet |
02:04.45 | eye69 | stephen: Np |
02:05.05 | eye69 | We'll have to shake paws then...missed it last time :) |
02:06.02 | stephen | we certainly will |
02:08.24 | eye69 | I'm so pissed...ordered haagendaaz with the pizzadelivery...ordered Vanilla choc fudge but the bloody bastards gave me baileys |
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08:59.22 | dank_work | Morning |
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09:30.09 | dpash | hmmm lost connection this morning for some reason |
09:30.21 | dank_work | BT being crap? |
09:30.44 | dpash | dank_work: nope, we have our satellite now |
09:30.57 | dank_work | Ooh :) |
09:30.59 | dpash | we should be on permantly now |
09:31.02 | dank_work | :) |
09:31.05 | dank_work | In theory... |
09:31.10 | dpash | esp if I could spell it |
09:31.31 | dank_work | Yup |
09:33.16 | Tarragon | Everyone lost connection. One of the major freenode servers has been taken out for replacement. Hopefully around 8am everyone fell off and reconnected although agk is missing. |
09:34.23 | dank_work | He pung out |
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09:40.52 | zachary | good morning |
09:41.48 | dank_work | hullo |
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09:47.39 | dank_work | 'ullo |
09:47.47 | resuDaed | ibot seen Clyphox|a |
09:47.47 | | resuDaed: i haven't seen 'clyphox|a ' |
09:47.48 | dank_work | Our backups work. |
09:47.52 | dank_work | Our restores don't |
09:48.11 | zachary | dan I would say that is bad. |
09:48.18 | resuDaed | have you had too call on your backups, or was it a test that failed? |
09:48.26 | dank_work | I tested the reading |
09:48.42 | dank_work | [root@fs0new root]# tar -tf /dev/st0 |
09:48.42 | dank_work | tar: /dev/st0: Cannot read: Cannot allocate memory |
09:48.42 | dank_work | tar: At beginning of tape, quitting now |
09:48.42 | dank_work | tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now |
09:49.03 | dank_work | open("/dev/st0", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3 |
09:49.03 | dank_work | fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0660, st_rdev=makedev(9, 0), ...}) = 0 |
09:49.03 | dank_work | stat64("/dev/null", {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0666, st_rdev=makedev(1, 3), ...}) = 0 |
09:49.03 | dank_work | read(3, 0x806e888, 10240) = -1 ENOMEM (Cannot allocate memory) |
09:49.55 | resuDaed | 'cannot allocate memory' would suggest the fault does not reside in the backup hardware |
09:50.24 | resuDaed | have you tried it from another box? |
09:50.26 | dank_work | The hardware is working |
09:50.48 | dank_work | Nay. If I dd a few blocks from the tape, then I can do tar on it. |
09:50.55 | dank_work | It's doing the whole lot |
09:50.57 | dank_work | (from tape) |
09:51.13 | dank_work | [root@fs0new dank]# dd if=/dev/st0 of=backup.tar |
09:51.13 | dank_work | dd: reading `/dev/st0': Cannot allocate memory |
09:51.13 | dank_work | 0+0 records in |
09:51.13 | dank_work | 0+0 records out |
09:51.20 | resuDaed | one of those 'look busy' times you get to relax at work? |
09:51.24 | resuDaed | ah |
09:51.33 | dank_work | [root@fs0new dank]# dd if=/dev/st0 of=backup.tar bs=80k |
09:51.36 | dank_work | That works... |
09:51.49 | dank_work | Hmmm.. |
09:51.49 | resuDaed | how much free ram have you got? |
09:52.25 | resuDaed | maybe mount yourself a few hundred Mb of swap and see if you grab a bit further |
09:52.50 | dank_work | If I specify the blocksize, then it works. |
09:53.35 | resuDaed | n00b question : when specifying the block size, you are still reading the whole tape, correct? |
09:53.47 | dank_work | Yes |
09:54.44 | resuDaed | ah, yes ... it all comes flooding back (I have a backup of my boot sector) |
09:59.21 | resuDaed | dank_work : do you have a .ircrc file I could hack? |
09:59.34 | dank_work | Err....don't think so. |
09:59.47 | dank_work | Nay. |
10:00.16 | resuDaed | np |
10:01.39 | resuDaed | what would anyone suggest learning that would get a job (almost anyjob (not 1st line support!!!!!))? |
10:01.49 | dank_work | English |
10:02.22 | resuDaed | lol, English is my second language, I can almost speak it fluently now |
10:02.33 | zachary | resuDaed: The art of bullshit. |
10:02.35 | dank_work | :) |
10:02.58 | resuDaed | zachary : I pretty much have that, but I need my bullshit needs direction |
10:03.27 | dank_work | Towards the fan. |
10:03.35 | zachary | lol |
10:04.00 | resuDaed | ie a speciality (for the first job at least) ... it seems people with general knowledge (although IMHO the most useful type) are not the ones in huge demand |
10:04.17 | dank_work | Unless you find the right job. |
10:04.23 | Tarragon | Do you want to focus on IT? |
10:04.31 | dank_work | And, if so, what aspect of IT? |
10:04.42 | dank_work | Programming? Sysadmin? Network admin? Support? |
10:04.55 | resuDaed | Sysadmin/Net Admin |
10:05.11 | dank_work | Cisco |
10:05.15 | dank_work | Solaris |
10:05.21 | resuDaed | but someone of my age/experience wont get a position as yet |
10:05.28 | Tarragon | Yes - Cisco |
10:05.31 | dank_work | You could, as a junior sysadmin |
10:05.45 | dank_work | (aka backup-tape monkey) |
10:05.55 | resuDaed | dank_work : I cannot find those kind of jobs anywhere - would be perfect |
10:06.19 | dank_work | You just have to look around, really. |
10:06.23 | resuDaed | and I don't know how I can learn Cisco on the cheap |
10:06.36 | dank_work | Ask someone to give you a Cisco router? |
10:06.58 | resuDaed | I have been looking for 6 months or so ... found nothing serious that I havn't already applied for ... and have had no response (24 or so applications) |
10:07.27 | resuDaed | (these were posts from an agency, so I feel I probablly got lost on the 'system') |
10:08.02 | resuDaed | Can someone give me a Cisco router? (;-D) |
10:08.20 | resuDaed | s/give/lend |
10:08.24 | Tarragon | FreeSCO http://www.freesco.org/ |
10:08.30 | dank_work | I could lend you one |
10:08.52 | resuDaed | dank_work : seriously? would be more than helpful |
10:09.04 | resuDaed | Tarragon : looking now |
10:09.24 | dank_work | Well, it's been sitting in my cupboard for a couple of years now |
10:10.14 | resuDaed | that would seriously be perfect ... would allow me to get some experience with some real hardware |
10:10.34 | resuDaed | (network based ... I have a few NICs and a transparant hub) |
10:12.32 | dank_work | Well, I've always intended to get around to playing with IOS, but haven't quite managed |
10:14.07 | resuDaed | where exactly is that cupboard? |
10:15.50 | dank_work | In my bedroom |
10:18.05 | dank_work | on phone - brb |
10:18.31 | resuDaed | dank_work : and your accomodation is where roughly : postal code etc. |
10:20.07 | dank_work | HP9 1BD |
10:20.54 | dank_work | It's a Cisco WAN router, though, and I don't have WAN cards for it |
10:21.03 | dank_work | But it's also got 2 Ethernet interfaces |
10:21.18 | dank_work | Cisco 2605 (or something thereabouts) |
10:23.59 | dank_work | I just asked if I could have it, and I was given it :) |
10:24.21 | resuDaed | I also have only LAN, is it capable of LAN routing |
10:24.28 | resuDaed | that approach often works |
10:24.40 | dank_work | I don't know. |
10:24.47 | dank_work | As I said, I haven't played with it. |
10:24.53 | dank_work | never got around to it :) |
10:25.07 | dank_work | And, even if you can't, you still get to play with IOS |
10:30.59 | resuDaed | would the ethernet connection to my cable modem count as WAN? |
10:31.24 | dank_work | No |
10:31.30 | resuDaed | didn't think so |
10:31.56 | resuDaed | so what exactly is a WAN connection ... ie aparat from the wide area bit, how does it differ |
10:32.09 | dank_work | AX/25, ATM |
10:32.18 | dank_work | Leased line |
10:32.39 | resuDaed | ah, must get myself one fo those (leased line) |
10:33.16 | dank_work | money... |
10:33.19 | resuDaed | need to extend my network by about 1km ... although wireless/bluetooth is probably cheaper |
10:35.27 | dank_work | Yeah, but won't extend over 1km |
10:35.48 | resuDaed | I know (or had fears) |
10:36.41 | resuDaed | was thinking along the lines of fibre optics, but that would invlove the cost of digging up strees or cables crossing the road |
10:37.32 | dank_work | Fibre is good |
10:37.38 | resuDaed | what is the max distance of wireless? |
10:37.48 | dank_work | But I want to keep my 10bFL transceiver that's with the Cisco router |
10:37.54 | dank_work | about 300m |
10:38.02 | dank_work | You could try building a microwave transmitter |
10:38.48 | resuDaed | so I could try and persuade someone residing between the two points to put a box in their loft to extend the network :-) |
10:38.58 | dank_work | riiight :) |
10:40.15 | resuDaed | hmm, maybe I could try and sell them a set top box (mini ITX) that does some fancy tricks, but needs a box in the loft to um keep connected to a centralised server |
10:41.29 | resuDaed | that would explain the wirless network (if they were ever to inspect the hardware) |
10:41.38 | dank_work | :-) |
10:42.07 | resuDaed | and I could also use their box for a little extra processing power if I ever needed it |
10:42.10 | dank_work | But if you want to borrow the router, I can try and bring it to the Installfest for you |
10:42.13 | dank_work | :-) |
10:42.28 | resuDaed | that would be great ... make sure I get down there now :-) |
10:43.58 | resuDaed | how big is it (ie 19" rack, *u ?) |
10:46.43 | dank_work | Nah |
10:46.53 | dank_work | Fairly small footprint |
10:46.55 | dank_work | Not rackable |
10:47.12 | dank_work | 10"x8"x2" |
10:47.16 | dank_work | Or maybe less. |
10:47.23 | dank_work | I haven't taken it out of the box for a long time |
10:48.18 | resuDaed | smaller = better, a) I have little rack space left, b) I don't like putting computer hardware on my racks |
10:48.42 | resuDaed | some pretty strong magnetic fields |
10:49.43 | resuDaed | .OT: I don't think Clyphox will be able to make it to installfest, but his twin brother will probably be able to |
10:50.14 | dank_work | Cool. |
10:50.23 | dank_work | That'll be just as good, then :) |
10:50.38 | resuDaed | by then, you'll have met most of the family :-) |
10:50.54 | dank_work | :-) |
10:51.08 | dank_work | Most? |
10:51.11 | dank_work | Are there only 3 of them? |
10:51.35 | resuDaed | 4 (excluding parents) |
10:51.43 | dank_work | So I haven't met most of them |
10:52.42 | resuDaed | by then half (including parents), 3/4 (excluding) |
10:52.55 | dank_work | Have I? |
10:53.31 | resuDaed | Clyphox, A4266 (the twin brother), resuBitch (my gf) |
10:54.04 | dank_work | Ahhh....she's a member of the Clyphox Clan, then? |
10:54.16 | resuDaed | aye ... how I met Clyphox |
10:54.21 | dank_work | Ahh :) |
10:54.38 | dank_work | That explains a bit better :) |
10:55.32 | resuDaed | lol, I thought you already knew :-) |
10:55.45 | dank_work | I didn't :) |
10:56.48 | resuDaed | resuBitch is my younger sisters best friends older sister |
10:57.01 | resuDaed | :-) |
10:57.09 | dank_work | And that's the 4th member of the family? |
10:57.21 | resuDaed | her younger sister, yes |
10:57.41 | dank_work | Heh :) |
10:58.02 | resuDaed | isn't life simple |
10:58.07 | dank_work | it is |
10:58.45 | dank_work | So will we see your sister or Beth's sister on IRC? |
10:58.55 | dank_work | And if not, why not? :) |
10:59.32 | dank_work | resuDaed: You any good at programming? |
11:00.00 | resuDaed | neither of our sisters are particularly technically minded, although they are both appreciative of both the 'geek culture' and of open source |
11:00.04 | resuDaed | dank_work : not bad |
11:00.50 | dank_work | What's your email address? |
11:00.59 | resuDaed | tom-t(at)talk21.com |
11:01.20 | dank_work | Right. Check your email |
11:01.31 | dank_work | Should be a message from one 'Bob Dunlop' |
11:02.40 | dank_work | Dunno if it's of interest to you, though... |
11:02.58 | resuDaed | yes, looks intresting ... I would need to brush up ... I havn't written anything non perl/bash based in 6 months or so |
11:06.44 | dank_work | :) |
11:10.02 | resuDaed | and I may need to learn C, I only really know C++ |
11:11.26 | dpash | resuDaed: the only difference is that you need to use malloc/free and stdio |
11:11.44 | dpash | oh and you can't use classes |
11:12.25 | dank_work | There's many more differences |
11:12.25 | dank_work | Why do I have a 71s lag? |
11:12.29 | resuDaed | dpash : so not much really |
11:12.30 | dank_work | Ah. Gone now. |
11:12.35 | resuDaed | I have a 1s lag |
11:14.11 | resuDaed | freesco looks good, although it only comes with telnet (not openSSH) |
11:15.02 | dank_work | But it doesn't run IOS |
11:15.20 | dank_work | The whole point of getting a real Cisco is to learn IOS |
11:16.45 | murble | IOS sucks. |
11:16.57 | dank_work | Maybe... |
11:17.41 | resuDaed | I know, but I can set myself up with a router until Installfest anyway |
11:18.32 | murble | resuDaed: do you have adsl? |
11:20.13 | resuDaed | murble : cable |
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12:36.59 | Huhn | moin |
12:37.24 | jenson | hey Huhn |
12:37.45 | Huhn | hi jenson, how's it going? |
12:38.10 | jenson | Alright thanks, how are you? |
12:39.05 | Huhn | fine, thanks :) |
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12:56.44 | jenson | hi agk |
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12:57.45 | jenson | hey dpash_ |
12:59.18 | dank_work | Hi jenson |
12:59.24 | dank_work | Fucking Windows. |
12:59.26 | jenson | hey Dan |
12:59.27 | jenson | lol |
12:59.28 | dank_work | I hate it. Hate it Hate it. |
13:00.04 | stephen | is there any OS you like bar slackware and FreeBSD? |
13:00.50 | dank_work | OpenBSD. |
13:01.00 | dank_work | Actually, all OSes suck. |
13:01.06 | dank_work | But we all know that |
13:01.19 | dank_work | VMS isn't too bad yet, but I don't know enough about it to screw it up |
13:01.38 | jenson | Yeah Dan computers suck! |
13:03.30 | jenson | It's a;lright Dan I'll drag you back to my place first |
13:03.32 | jenson | hey Clyphox |
13:03.33 | Clyphox | Hi all |
13:03.33 | dank_work | :) |
13:03.36 | dank_work | Hi Clyphox |
13:03.54 | dank_work | why? I'm talking to you here... |
13:03.58 | Clyphox | I'm in Aberdeen now.. |
13:04.03 | dank_work | What fun :) |
13:04.08 | dank_work | And on IRC, too. |
13:04.16 | Clyphox | yeah.. thanks to screen |
13:04.30 | dank_work | :) |
13:04.32 | Clyphox | plus my adsl was only supposed to come on on Wednesda too |
13:04.35 | dank_work | heh |
13:04.45 | Clyphox | I like f2s.. they really are good. |
13:05.04 | Clyphox | I'm glad I don't ever have to.. |
13:05.17 | dank_work | Until you get a proper job ;-) |
13:05.48 | Clyphox | yeah.. |
13:05.54 | dank_work | Go into the warm then |
13:05.55 | Clyphox | Its sunny here.. |
13:06.06 | jenson | I went to get my phone so I could get a number to send a text |
13:06.07 | Clyphox | or maybe thats because I'm not at work.. |
13:06.21 | dank_work | Heh |
13:06.34 | dank_work | :) |
13:06.40 | dank_work | It's overcast here |
13:06.42 | Clyphox | My fiancee can remember lots of numbers.. she's weird :) |
13:06.59 | dank_work | Hehe |
13:07.01 | Clyphox | Well I got clean blue skies here :) its cool |
13:07.05 | Clyphox | er Ski |
13:07.07 | Clyphox | er Shy |
13:07.08 | jenson | Clyphox: I do that |
13:07.11 | Clyphox | er Sky |
13:07.29 | Clyphox | jenson, be weird or remember numbers? |
13:07.36 | jenson | both |
13:07.44 | dank_work | :) |
13:07.45 | Clyphox | I definatly think its a girl thing ;-) |
13:07.50 | dank_work | She can't even remember my number. |
13:07.51 | dank_work | :( |
13:08.16 | Clyphox | Some guys like that.. (that is.. guys who can't get their girl off their backs..) |
13:08.29 | Clyphox | (not like your like that..) |
13:08.31 | Clyphox | er.. |
13:08.35 | Clyphox | someone shoot me.. |
13:08.40 | Clyphox | er.. actually .. |
13:08.51 | jenson | lol |
13:09.26 | Clyphox | I gtg for a while.. my grl's angry with me atm.. |
13:09.28 | dank_work | Now. Stop. Breathe. Think. And now, what were you trying to say? |
13:09.29 | Clyphox | girls.. |
13:09.35 | dank_work | What've you done to her? |
13:09.55 | jenson | Girls are nothing but trouble Clyphox |
13:09.57 | Clyphox | can't talk now.. being blasted as we speak.. |
13:10.10 | jenson | lol ok good luck |
13:10.13 | dank_work | HEh. |
13:10.27 | dank_work | See what you get yourself into with girls... |
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13:45.12 | Clyphox | Heya |
13:45.24 | Clyphox | I'm back and still alive! |
13:45.24 | dank_work | You survived the female onslaught? |
13:45.39 | Clyphox | Only slightly |
13:45.46 | dank_work | :) |
13:45.48 | dank_work | How did it go? |
13:45.54 | dank_work | And what were you in trouble for, anyway? |
13:45.57 | Clyphox | Not bad.. it was her fault after all |
13:46.14 | dank_work | :) |
13:46.28 | Clyphox | We decided that I was going to go to one/some of ther lactures (Uni) |
13:46.41 | Clyphox | She decided for me that I was going to the one she just left for |
13:47.04 | Clyphox | When I said.. I don't want to go to todays one I nearly Died.. |
13:47.06 | Clyphox | phone.. |
13:48.12 | Clyphox | back |
13:48.30 | Clyphox | It is so sunny.. I hope it stays like this.. |
13:48.39 | Clyphox | I can maybe even get some sun.. |
13:48.46 | Clyphox | I get more sex than sun |
13:50.55 | dank_work | :) |
13:50.59 | dank_work | Nothing wrong with that... |
13:51.07 | Clyphox | I've got a nice contention ratio here.. getting downstreams of abount 70k |
13:51.17 | dank_work | Not too bad |
13:51.17 | Clyphox | yes there is.. I need sun!! |
13:51.26 | dank_work | Sex in the sun? |
13:52.04 | Clyphox | hehe.. |
13:52.14 | Clyphox | Nah I prefer night time I think.. |
13:52.53 | dank_work | Grrrrrrr. |
13:53.10 | dank_work | Why the fuck do people call for 2 rings, and then hang up as soon as I answer someone else's phone |
13:56.19 | Clyphox | What programs do you use for a digital camera? usb? |
13:57.08 | Clyphox | gphoto? |
13:57.57 | Huhn | photopc |
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14:00.13 | OrangeSkies | hi all |
14:00.30 | OrangeSkies | does anyone know of a speedy place to download mandrake from? |
14:01.37 | dank_work | yeah |
14:01.44 | dank_work | One of the Mandrake mirror sites :) |
14:01.51 | dank_work | Try ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.mandrake.com |
14:01.59 | OrangeSkies | thanks :) |
14:02.12 | OrangeSkies | linux-mandrake.com wasnt responding |
14:02.27 | Clyphox | Huhn , is it able to do usb stuff.. just looks like its for serial stuff.? |
14:02.39 | Clyphox | try www.mirror.ac.uk maybe |
14:02.53 | OrangeSkies | ok, ty :) |
14:02.53 | Clyphox | er .co.uk |
14:05.43 | eye69 | Clyphox: It does USB. |
14:05.59 | OrangeSkies | is there any particular version of mandrake that you guys would suggest a newbie to use? |
14:06.26 | eye69 | Clyphox: Check that you don't just need USB storage though. Might not need a program at all. |
14:06.41 | eye69 | A lot of the newer cameras use regular USB storage. |
14:07.29 | Huhn | Clyphox: photopc can do either serial or USB, 2 different tar.gz as far as I know |
14:11.51 | Clyphox | ok.. |
14:12.14 | Clyphox | I'm gonna buy me one of theose sipics cams. little ones.. |
14:19.48 | dank_work | OrangeSkies: The latest one |
14:24.10 | OrangeSkies | ta |
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14:45.39 | murble | seen leeds |
14:45.50 | murble | ibot seen leeds? |
14:45.50 | | leeds <~richardc@user-1605.bbd05tcl.dsl.pol.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 19h 41m 43s ago, saying: 'sunfreeware.com is a good place to start'. |
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14:47.21 | dank_work | Hi Dave |
14:47.43 | davilion | hiya |
14:48.23 | highbury | hi |
14:48.30 | dank_work | How's it going? |
14:51.34 | davilion | not too bad |
14:51.39 | davilion | at york uni today fixing a server there |
14:51.46 | dank_work | :) |
14:52.12 | davilion | i hate this server its so unreliable |
14:52.22 | dank_work | I hate windows |
14:52.26 | dank_work | I'm having a bad day |
14:59.46 | davilion | don't we all. |
14:59.51 | davilion | bad start to the week? |
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15:02.43 | dank_work | Very |
15:04.48 | davilion | what happened? |
15:05.22 | dank_work | Too much ATM. |
15:05.26 | dank_work | I want to kill something |
15:06.35 | davilion | something or someone? |
15:06.38 | murble | a small insect? |
15:06.41 | dank_work | Either will do |
15:06.53 | davilion | heheh |
15:06.57 | davilion | Your getting monkey rage |
15:07.05 | dank_work | Yes. I want to go for a beer. |
15:07.09 | dank_work | Or 7. |
15:07.38 | davilion | Bheh |
15:07.44 | eye69 | I'm up for beers |
15:07.46 | davilion | well my day started crap and is only getting worse |
15:08.13 | davilion | im having a mental block and I cant remember the root password |
15:08.25 | davilion | i know the theme but cant remember the exact spelling |
15:08.28 | dank_work | :-/ |
15:08.29 | davilion | and its so drustratign |
15:09.11 | murble | eye69: in high wycombe? |
15:09.31 | eye69 | murble: Nope. Grays, Essex. |
15:09.44 | eye69 | Oh well, beers on saturday |
15:10.26 | stephen | indeed |
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15:29.56 | dank_work | Hm. |
15:31.23 | dank_work | Well, I've sorted the printing problem |
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15:31.32 | dank_work | wb jenson |
15:31.35 | jenson | ty |
15:31.37 | davilion | hi jenson |
15:31.42 | jenson | Dont think I can stay long though |
15:31.45 | jenson | hey davilion |
15:31.50 | dank_work | Having to go home soon? |
15:32.02 | jenson | No, I think there is meeting in |
15:32.03 | jenson | here |
15:32.07 | dank_work | so? |
15:32.21 | jenson | Meaning they'll take over the comoyters |
15:32.25 | dank_work | And? |
15:32.29 | dank_work | Won't there be one free for you? |
15:32.43 | jenson | My mother wouldnt dare let anyone see me ircing lol |
15:32.48 | dank_work | Why not? |
15:33.07 | jenson | You know what she's like |
15:33.18 | dpash | is it not ladylike? |
15:33.21 | dank_work | Evidently not |
15:33.52 | jenson | lol |
15:34.03 | jenson | Although I've just had chocolate |
15:34.07 | dpash | jenson: we all need chocolate |
15:34.12 | dank_work | You can't have enough |
15:34.45 | jenson | I are a thole 150g galaxy bar yesterday |
15:34.53 | jenson | erm |
15:34.55 | Huhn | I don't need chocolate, I need more time |
15:34.56 | jenson | ate a whole |
15:35.09 | Huhn | *sigh* |
15:35.16 | Huhn | thanks, dpash :) |
15:35.36 | dank_work | Ha ha. |
15:36.31 | jenson | Thing is, I've opnly been using Linux for 2 weeks (well as a main OS anyway) is it normal to hate Windows? |
15:36.49 | Huhn | jenson: yes ;) |
15:36.55 | stephen | no, you just tend to prefer linux |
15:36.56 | dank_work | I hated Windows before |
15:37.46 | jenson | :) |
15:37.49 | dpash | jenson: it is normal to find things that you just can;t do in windows that you do naturally in linux |
15:37.53 | dpash | like window shading |
15:38.00 | dank_work | Until I just said 'sod it' and edited the registry |
15:38.21 | dank_work | dpash: Window shading is *not* Linux |
15:38.36 | davilion | i always hated windows |
15:38.42 | jenson | dpash: I spent about 6 hours configuring a printer in Linux, instead of just booting up win and installing it for win, then again I'm weird |
15:38.43 | dank_work | It is a feature of some window managers. |
15:38.51 | dpash | the only way to remove the setting was by using regedit |
15:38.52 | dank_work | But it is *not* a Linux feature |
15:39.13 | davilion | jenson 150g bar of chocolate is not a lot of chocolate on the grand scale of things |
15:39.31 | dpash | dank_work: no, but it is a common thing that I do in linux, but can't do in windows |
15:39.33 | davilion | when yous tart getting closer tot he kg thats proper chocolate consumption |
15:39.37 | jenson | davilion: No, I know |
15:40.04 | dank_work | And you can probably do it under VMS, too (DECWindows) |
15:40.10 | jenson | Thing is, I either buy loads more chocolate, or actually have enough money to afford to go to the installfest |
15:40.15 | dank_work | And any other Unix that runs X, and the correct Window Manager |
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15:40.53 | jenson | This place is gonna get taken over in a minute I know |
15:40.55 | jenson | hey skugg |
15:40.59 | skugg | hi jenson |
15:41.00 | davilion | hmm |
15:41.08 | skugg | ibot seen leeds |
15:41.08 | | leeds <~richardc@user-1605.bbd05tcl.dsl.pol.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 20h 37m 1s ago, saying: 'sunfreeware.com is a good place to start'. |
15:41.12 | dank_work | Come to the Installfest. Unless you'd rather have chocolate than see me. |
15:41.18 | dank_work | dpash: Have you used it? |
15:41.29 | dank_work | :) |
15:41.32 | dank_work | Cool. |
15:41.35 | davilion | its days ilke this i wish i had a copy of 'molectular dynamics for retards' and 'comutational chemistry in an easy access nutshell' |
15:41.57 | skugg | hm. I'm about to send my cv to Sun, and was hoping leeds would be here for some last-minute advice :P |
15:41.59 | dank_work | davilion: to hit people with? |
15:42.26 | jenson | Shit, I need to go find my MP3s BRB |
15:42.34 | skugg | should I say anything in the email apart from which job I'm applying for? any advice at all? :) |
15:42.49 | dank_work | Pass. |
15:43.15 | dpash | skugg: if applying for a job include a few paragraphs about why you would be great for that particular job |
15:43.24 | davilion | dank_work: no so i could understand what this code does and perhaps why its crashign out |
15:43.34 | dank_work | :) |
15:43.46 | skugg | dpash, i'm not sure I would :P but it would be great for me :) |
15:43.57 | stephen | skugg: same thing ;) |
15:44.05 | davilion | theres a load of big matrixes and lots of calls to lapac |
15:44.30 | davilion | i suspect its running out of ram |
15:44.52 | dpash | davilion: is it C? |
15:44.55 | davilion | i also need fortran for dummies. |
15:44.55 | murble | so insert some more. |
15:45.05 | davilion | murble: its got 4gb |
15:45.10 | dpash | oh fortran |
15:45.11 | dank_work | Oooh. Fortran :) |
15:45.19 | murble | fortran 90? |
15:45.26 | davilion | 77 i tihnk. |
15:45.36 | dank_work | Punched cards! |
15:45.40 | davilion | yay! |
15:45.52 | davilion | ahah, it is a memory problem. |
15:46.01 | dank_work | Quite a few years back he passed up the opportunity to get hold of a Honeywell 316 |
15:46.02 | davilion | but not within his code by the looks of it |
15:46.08 | dank_work | Punched Paper Tape computer :) |
15:46.58 | davilion | i suspect what happens is that it can't allocated enough memory for the result of the mpi call and the buffer space needed to store the data before the mpi call completes |
15:47.02 | skugg | name-dropping is probably bad, yes? :S |
15:47.19 | skugg | and anyway, I don't have leeds' concent... |
15:47.33 | murble | skugg: you're apply for a job in the sun? |
15:47.36 | murble | ing |
15:47.40 | skugg | murble, yeah |
15:48.07 | dpash | wow mpi too |
15:48.24 | dpash | serious crap apis |
15:48.52 | dank_work | (at the Installfest) |
15:49.12 | jenson | erm nope |
15:49.21 | jenson | I have an IDE 1GB....but nit might be dead |
15:49.28 | dank_work | No good. Need SCSI |
15:49.40 | davilion | dank_work: i may have one, let me check. |
15:49.50 | dank_work | Ooooh :) |
15:49.51 | davilion | i have a few old sun boxes that i network boot. |
15:50.03 | davilion | not sure what disks are in them |
15:50.22 | dank_work | Okay - I'd like a 1Gb, though. Or 800Mb. |
15:50.30 | davilion | dpash: nothing wrong with mpi if you like that kinda thing |
15:50.35 | dank_work | I have a 420Mb in that Alpha at the moment, and it's a bit too small |
15:51.19 | davilion | ideall you would use a higer level call like the api oxford developed for rolls but can't remember the name, but for distributed memory programming its ok |
15:52.37 | resuDaed | afternoon all |
15:52.40 | davilion | hi resuDaed |
15:52.52 | Tarragon | Afternoon resuDaed |
15:53.17 | dank_work | Hi Tarragon |
15:55.20 | murble | will you break a computer? |
15:55.23 | resuDaed | dank_work : I have a 240Mb SCSI disk |
15:55.25 | murble | s/break/bring/ |
15:56.03 | resuDaed | I don't carry much SCSI h/ware though |
15:56.25 | dank_work | resuDaed: Can I have that too, please? |
15:56.32 | dank_work | Could be good for my Personal Iris |
15:57.00 | resuDaed | np, be a good exchange for you lending me the router (except you can keep this) |
15:58.28 | resuDaed | came out of an IBM (486 I think) with a (to me) wierd array of hardware |
15:59.12 | dank_work | MCA? |
15:59.31 | murble | dank: you want another personal iris? |
15:59.42 | davilion | personal iris? |
15:59.53 | dank_work | Old hardware |
16:00.07 | dank_work | murble: Err.....some spare parts would be nice |
16:01.36 | resuDaed | dank_work : am not sure, but its a 50 pin SCSI anyway |
16:01.48 | dank_work | That's fine :) |
16:01.59 | resuDaed | manufactured by Quantam for IBM |
16:02.12 | jenson | yay! |
16:02.24 | dank_work | Good for you :) |
16:02.51 | resuDaed | shite, I have to go pick up a cheque |
16:03.00 | dank_work | Surely that's a good thing? |
16:03.04 | resuDaed | got to be out of there by 4:20 |
16:03.14 | resuDaed | (in time to make it to bacnk) |
16:03.22 | resuDaed | laters all |
16:03.24 | dank_work | C'ya |
16:03.58 | murble | dank: it is hopefully still in hatfield, ad includes monitor |
16:05.30 | dank_work | murble: Yeah, but I can't easily pick it up |
16:05.40 | dank_work | I have to try and sneak things past dear mother |
16:06.24 | skugg | gah. spellchecking could be usefull :P |
16:06.31 | skugg | s,ll$,l, |
16:09.38 | dank_work | murble: Monitor I don't need really - I just need to build myself a BNC cable |
16:10.06 | dank_work | Actually, would anyone have a spare Sun monitor cable? (13W3->13W3) |
16:10.21 | dank_work | Or even 13W3->BNC |
16:11.08 | zachary | dank_work: might want to ask formi. |
16:11.29 | dank_work | Good point. |
16:11.51 | stephen | got one, but its not spare, I could ask if you want |
16:12.32 | zachary | picked up another vectra, had a pci 3com Etherlink w/ utp, aui and bnc. Not much use to me. |
16:12.40 | dank_work | Okay :) |
16:13.27 | stephen | zachary: where are you getting them from? |
16:14.04 | zachary | BCF, corner of cleveland st and new cavendish st. |
16:14.26 | stephen | k |
16:15.13 | dank_work | Ooh. |
16:15.13 | dank_work | 3COM 3C509? |
16:15.28 | zachary | let me check |
16:15.35 | dank_work | Sorry. 3c905, woudln't it be? |
16:15.35 | dank_work | 509 is ISA |
16:16.14 | eye69 | 900 or 905 |
16:16.19 | stephen | hah, brookes are giving away those 3com isa cards |
16:16.20 | eye69 | 900 is 10Mb PCI |
16:16.37 | murble | I've got loads of 3c509s |
16:16.47 | dank_work | They're supported by everything (except Minix) |
16:16.59 | dank_work | murble: Any chance of grabbing one off you? |
16:17.11 | murble | minix supports ne1000s doesn't it? |
16:17.29 | dank_work | ne2k, I thought |
16:18.57 | murble | dank: what phyicals do you want? |
16:19.20 | zachary | 3c900 Etherlink XL |
16:19.36 | zachary | eye69: good catch |
16:22.20 | zachary | kvm switch came in today, as I was getting it ready for installation, I realized that I ran out of open ports on my hub. Now I need to beg for an 8port switch. |
16:22.27 | dank_work | murble: Definitely BNC |
16:23.32 | murble | ok BNC and rj45 it is. |
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16:25.09 | jenson | I have a lag of 11.63 here lol |
16:25.09 | jenson | So you'll have to excuse me |
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16:25.36 | jenson | wb davilion |
16:25.38 | dank_work | wb jenson |
16:25.40 | davilion | ta |
16:25.42 | dank_work | murble: Cool. Thanks :) |
16:26.36 | jenson | I'm surrounded by people trying to learn to install programs in Win |
16:26.36 | jenson | comedyt lol |
16:26.47 | dpash | jenson: that is low lag compared to what I was getting last week |
16:27.34 | skugg | dank_work, never tried the stuff, but unless it's abhorrent it shouldn't be a problem? i sure as hell have no problems with a litre of beer in that time... :) |
16:27.34 | skugg | or coke for that matter |
16:27.42 | dank_work | I thought you were being kicked out of the computer room |
16:27.50 | dank_work | It's a cheaper version of Red Bull (but tastes a bit nicer, or something) |
16:28.35 | dank_work | I'm sure I could drink a litre of it in the next hour |
16:28.43 | dank_work | It'd be very very bad for me, but that doesn't really matter. |
16:29.23 | jenson | I was trying to install publisher for my mother |
16:29.27 | skugg | dank_work, ah. if you have to drink in secret it becomes a whole different issue ;) |
16:29.29 | jenson | but it seems to have been tsaken away from me |
16:29.44 | dank_work | Heh. |
16:29.55 | dank_work | skugg: No. Just in the office. |
16:30.12 | skugg | i see |
16:30.41 | jenson | grrr I need a publisher product key |
16:30.58 | dank_work | 111-111111? |
16:31.11 | jenson | that aint 25 characters lol |
16:31.12 | dank_work | Ahh. |
16:31.15 | dank_work | One of those. |
16:31.20 | jenson | thats a cd key |
16:32.10 | dpash | dank_work: 123-1234567 also works |
16:32.19 | dank_work | True |
16:32.33 | dank_work | Or for some versions of Office, it was 1112-11111 |
16:32.52 | dpash | or 1234-1234567 ;) |
16:32.58 | dank_work | :) |
16:33.13 | jenson | Quite why did they make it so damn obviouys? |
16:33.18 | dpash | like sarcraft, you can put in random numbers and just change the last digit until it works |
16:33.35 | dpash | althought it may just need to end in 6 |
16:33.41 | jenson | well yeah that too :) |
16:33.51 | dpash | both installs on Friday required 6 |
16:33.55 | jenson | The other person has returned with the cd key |
16:33.56 | dpash | that may just be luck |
16:34.08 | jenson | I seem to remember I was installing it lol |
16:34.36 | dpash | a lot of people just use a mod 11 error check |
16:34.37 | dank_work | Mmmmm. Heart attack material :) |
16:34.54 | dpash | AIUI ISBN uses a mod 11 check |
16:35.09 | dpash | or indesign, or kword |
16:35.20 | jenson | has anyone got a publisher authenticity code? |
16:35.24 | jenson | Well I use Linux |
16:35.29 | jenson | it's my mother who uses XCPO |
16:35.32 | jenson | erm XP |
16:35.42 | dank_work | Heh |
16:37.43 | dank_work | We knoe |
16:37.45 | dank_work | *know |
16:40.14 | jenson | Well, looks like i dont have to install publisher, someone else has fone it |
16:40.21 | jenson | s/fone/done |
16:41.06 | dpash | dank_work: neither do I ;) |
16:41.17 | jenson | They've all got their laptops out |
16:41.20 | jenson | I want a laptop |
16:41.49 | dank_work | Laptops are overrated |
16:41.54 | dank_work | Plus they can burn your crotch |
16:42.00 | jenson | lol dank_work |
16:42.12 | dank_work | It's true! |
16:42.25 | jenson | ty Dan, the headteacher just read that lol |
16:42.34 | dpash | dank_work: only if you don't wear asbestos pants |
16:42.39 | dank_work | Their keyboards aren't as nice as separate keyboard units (normally) |
16:42.47 | jenson | true |
16:42.54 | jenson | But I could then bring it to gllug |
16:42.54 | dank_work | Well - there were a couple of articles in The Register |
16:43.01 | dank_work | So? |
16:43.05 | dank_work | And get it stolen in London. Good idea, there. |
16:43.12 | jenson | Knowing me yeah |
16:43.18 | dank_work | It happened to formi |
16:43.38 | dank_work | And for you, it seems that having a good keyboard is really quite important. |
16:43.46 | jenson | lol and formi is tall and cute |
16:43.49 | dank_work | Oi |
16:44.03 | dank_work | dpash: Have I missed out on a fashion trend again |
16:44.04 | dank_work | ? |
16:44.48 | jenson | Better ask my mother what else she wants installed |
16:45.09 | dank_work | Why don't you ask her? |
16:45.13 | dpash | dank_work: yeah. a bloody good one too. Just don't sniff them |
16:45.26 | dank_work | :) |
16:45.32 | dank_work | It's okay. I'm not into sniffing my crotch |
16:45.41 | jenson | WTF |
16:45.49 | dank_work | What? |
16:45.57 | jenson | You are mad honey |
16:46.24 | dank_work | Why? |
16:46.24 | dank_work | You think I should be into sniffing it? |
16:46.25 | dank_work | I'm not that flexible, anyway |
16:46.33 | jenson | hehehehe |
16:47.40 | jenson | BRB |
16:49.16 | jenson | back |
16:49.20 | dank_work | wb |
16:49.22 | jenson | zimm is gonna be here in a minute |
16:49.24 | jenson | ty |
16:49.28 | dank_work | Oh how nice. |
16:49.40 | jenson | lol |
16:49.45 | jenson | Well I was just telling you |
16:50.00 | dank_work | Thanks for being our early warning system |
16:50.05 | jenson | :) |
16:50.06 | jenson | yw |
16:50.39 | dank_work | So how many minutes and seconds until he comes? |
16:50.44 | jenson | About 3 mins |
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16:57.50 | jenson | heya |
16:57.56 | zimm | hey jenson |
16:58.00 | zimm | hey dank_work |
16:58.10 | dank_work | yo |
16:58.23 | jenson | Group hug???? |
16:58.35 | Tarragon | jenson: you were four minutes slow |
16:58.53 | jenson | :) Tarragon I'm sorry, I was quoting zimm |
16:59.06 | zimm | wtf ? |
16:59.27 | dank_work | jenson: No |
16:59.28 | Tarragon | We needed the extra time to hide the evidence from him. |
16:59.45 | dank_work | :) |
16:59.54 | jenson | lol |
17:00.01 | jenson | personally i dont have anything to hide |
17:00.38 | zimm | :) |
17:00.56 | dank_work | jenson: You're too small |
17:01.02 | jenson | Well, I try |
17:01.58 | dank_work | You succeed very well in being small. |
17:02.08 | jenson | I do yeah |
17:02.21 | jenson | I wont say the same about you |
17:02.26 | jenson | it would sound bad and isnt true |
17:02.39 | dank_work | No. I'm a fat bastard. |
17:02.47 | jenson | :) my fat bastard |
17:02.58 | dank_work | True. Your fat bastard. |
17:03.30 | dank_work | :-( |
17:03.52 | zimm | :) |
17:04.10 | jenson | lol |
17:16.08 | dank_work | No. It's bad for you. |
17:16.25 | jenson | I know |
17:16.28 | jenson | its bad for you too |
17:16.34 | dank_work | yeah, but it doesn't matter |
17:16.46 | jenson | awww |
17:16.47 | jenson | it does |
17:16.49 | jenson | coz iu love you |
17:17.09 | dank_work | Aww :) |
17:17.22 | dank_work | But I'll be okay. |
17:17.30 | dank_work | It doesn't make me go mad. |
17:17.41 | jenson | Or me |
17:17.48 | dank_work | Yes it does |
17:17.57 | jenson | well maybe a little |
17:18.03 | dank_work | Exactly |
17:18.07 | jenson | Didn't I hit on thw whole channel last time |
17:18.13 | dank_work | Probaly |
17:18.26 | dank_work | And then you're surprised people complain about off-topicness |
17:18.59 | jenson | QWell it aint been so bad lately coz\ I've taken up my own channel in the evening |
17:19.08 | dank_work | True... |
17:27.32 | dpash | somehow paint has spilt over all my bosses bikes |
17:27.45 | dpash | including his childrens and his wifes |
17:28.09 | dpash | boss is currently trying to wash all the paint off |
17:28.37 | dpash | atmosphere is "interesting" |
17:30.28 | jenson | clever.... |
17:31.03 | dpash | I didn't do it |
17:31.11 | dpash | you can't prove anything |
17:31.12 | dank_work | Heh |
17:31.28 | dpash | I wasn't there, honestly |
17:54.02 | murble | <PROTECTED> |
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18:02.16 | stephen | dank_work: got that 13w3, i'll bring it on Saturday |
18:02.40 | dank_work | Cool, thanks :) |
18:02.52 | stephen | np |
18:03.12 | dank_work | I'll probably be about the only guy with a girl around him, so should be rather obvious |
18:07.36 | stephen | don't worry, we have met |
18:07.45 | dank_work | We have? |
18:08.03 | zimm | lol |
18:08.08 | stephen | yep, at the last OxLUG meeting |
18:08.33 | stephen | oh, evening zimm |
18:08.36 | dank_work | Err...okay :) |
18:08.56 | zachary | dank_work: My wife is comming so, not entirely true. This big differance, wedding ring! |
18:09.04 | HuhnVIDEO | bye |
18:09.16 | dank_work | zachary: Eh? |
18:09.22 | stephen | not sure we actually spoke, but I certainly know who to look for |
18:09.26 | dank_work | :) |
18:09.32 | zimm | stephen: yo |
18:11.17 | dank_work | Bye people |
18:11.35 | stephen | bye |
18:11.46 | zimm | laters dank_work |
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18:19.17 | dpash | anyone used a Sony Ericson T68i? |
18:19.32 | dpash | and/or a Nokia 8310? |
18:19.50 | zimm | me has a t28s .. sorry :( |
18:19.58 | dpash | bugger |
18:20.07 | dpash | getting a new phone at work |
18:20.23 | dpash | I did want a 8310, but appernetly they are a bit unreliable |
18:20.31 | eye69 | dpash: My 6310 is nice. |
18:20.39 | eye69 | Bluetooth, Wap, GPRS... |
18:20.52 | dpash | chuncky as fuck |
18:20.55 | eye69 | Good battery time |
18:21.20 | eye69 | It is small enough. |
18:21.57 | dpash | it is a brick compared |
18:22.02 | dpash | 115g vs 84g |
18:22.32 | eye69 | In return you're getting something that doesn't break apart, and where you don't need a needle to use the keypad |
18:22.58 | zimm | fiddly small keypads PISS me OFF |
18:23.00 | eye69 | I had a 8210 for a while. Plastic crap with a fiddley keypad. |
18:23.19 | dpash | I don't have a problem with it |
18:23.56 | eye69 | I had loads of problems with it. Display broke, the phone was like rubber...not sturdy at all |
18:24.07 | zimm | my T28s sux |
18:24.20 | zimm | been replaced by ericsson 3 times |
18:24.24 | eye69 | zimm: The infamous fliplid |
18:24.28 | zimm | yeh |
18:24.40 | zimm | mic is dead now , have to use the handsfree |
18:25.22 | zimm | but i get to lpay teris , which is nice |
18:25.25 | zimm | err |
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18:25.31 | zimm | damn library keyboards |
18:25.40 | zimm | but i get to play tetris , which is nice |
18:25.42 | zimm | s'better |
18:25.49 | eye69 | Mine does flipper |
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18:26.22 | Jenson | j #morcanna |
18:26.23 | eye69 | What are you wondering about? |
18:26.24 | Jenson | oopsk |
18:26.48 | Jenson | dpash: Why? |
18:26.54 | zimm | Jenson: siemens / |
18:26.56 | zimm | ? |
18:26.56 | eye69 | dpash: I've run both a 8310 and t68i with gnokii...worked fine |
18:26.57 | dpash | what make is it? |
18:27.10 | dpash | gnokii? |
18:27.17 | Jenson | Seimens M35i |
18:27.17 | dpash | is that a sync prog? |
18:27.26 | eye69 | dpash: More like backup |
18:27.35 | dpash | Jenson: bah |
18:27.37 | eye69 | Haven't looked at any real sync progs |
18:27.51 | dpash | eye69: so what did you think to both? |
18:28.13 | eye69 | Backup of phonebook worked. Didn't really need anything more than that. |
18:28.24 | dpash | were they not yours then? |
18:28.35 | eye69 | No, they were a collegues. |
18:28.50 | eye69 | I much prefer the menus in a Nokia. |
18:29.09 | dpash | I do too, but I'VE NOT TRIED A SONY |
18:29.15 | dpash | sorry |
18:29.36 | Jenson | Well I like them, but everyone seems to have got them, so I dont want one |
18:29.51 | zimm | Jenson: exactly |
18:30.06 | Jenson | dpash: You can do that in the Xconfig |
18:30.17 | dpash | Jenson: what about console? |
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18:30.41 | Jenson | dunno |
18:30.53 | Jenson | dpash: I'm a newbie |
18:30.56 | Jenson | hi formi |
18:31.40 | eye69 | dpash: Shouldn't be more than slightly changing the keymap |
18:32.06 | dpash | eye69: yeah. but capslock might be slightly different as it is a toggle |
18:35.35 | Jenson | http://ibot.rikers.org/gllug |
18:37.18 | dpash | is there a channel page? |
18:37.33 | dpash | I can;t wait until Saturday to see what people look like |
18:37.38 | zimm | lol |
18:37.38 | Jenson | that is the pagr for this channel |
18:37.49 | Jenson | dpash: You mean you havent seen photos - esp of me lol |
18:37.54 | dpash | nope |
18:38.16 | dpash | I've seen those that caught the 1257 to brussels |
18:38.30 | dpash | s.5.2 |
18:38.30 | Jenson | dpash: oooh you've met my boy/f |
18:38.37 | dpash | Jenson: yes |
18:38.39 | Jenson | :) |
18:38.51 | Jenson | anyway http://www.face-pic.com/jenson |
18:39.03 | Jenson | and http://www.btinternet.com/~lita16/personal.htm |
18:39.38 | dpash | nothing rude is there? |
18:39.43 | dpash | there are children present |
18:39.52 | Jenson | nope |
18:39.55 | Jenson | nothing rude |
18:40.17 | dpash | reasonably decent taste in music |
18:40.30 | dpash | shame about the TV progs ;) |
18:41.35 | Jenson | oh there is http://www.faceparty.com/jensonuk |
18:41.39 | Jenson | But that is simalar |
18:41.53 | Jenson | erm |
18:41.54 | Jenson | cokker |
18:41.57 | Jenson | doh |
18:41.59 | Jenson | cooker |
18:42.19 | formi | hello |
18:42.26 | dpash | Jenson: what to think to buffy clyro, hell is for heroes etc |
18:43.43 | formi | what is the name of that util you use to remove ^M from files? |
18:43.50 | dpash | formi: vim |
18:43.54 | dpash | or dos2unix |
18:43.56 | eye69 | formi: fromdos, dos2unix |
18:44.06 | eye69 | sed |
18:44.11 | dpash | perl |
18:44.21 | dpash | tr? |
18:44.30 | Jenson | dpash: If I told you that BSB seems to be on right now....what would you say lol |
18:44.53 | eye69 | Hire some poor sod to remove them manually |
18:44.54 | dpash | er |
18:45.15 | Jenson | :) |
18:45.51 | Jenson | Backstreet Boys |
18:46.14 | Jenson | lol |
18:46.32 | Jenson | Adema are on here too though |
18:47.18 | dpash | not heard of them |
18:47.41 | Jenson | doh you should have |
18:47.42 | zimm | Adema rock |
18:47.58 | zimm | well , the pne track that have does |
18:48.05 | dpash | s/karrang/kerrang/ |
18:48.40 | dpash | Jenson: bring a CD on Saturday |
18:48.47 | Jenson | zimm: 'The Way You Like It' is the best |
18:48.50 | Jenson | ok then |
18:49.13 | Jenson | zimm: You want me to burn you a copy of the Ademea tracks I've got aswell as the HedPE album |
18:49.17 | zimm | ::))) |
18:49.32 | dpash | Jenson: interpol? flaming lips? ben kweller? |
18:49.40 | Jenson | And you know what I'm like |
18:49.50 | Jenson | dpash: I kinda never got away from mainstream music |
18:49.57 | Jenson | I'm just addicted to depression |
18:50.22 | dpash | Jenson: I'll bring some alternative indie then |
18:51.19 | zimm | dpash: you got any stone roses ? |
18:51.26 | dpash | zimm: only on mp3 |
18:51.45 | zimm | hmm , my "stone roses" album is scratched to fook , id love to get a new copy . |
18:53.20 | dpash | Jenson: there is no way to explain britney |
18:53.28 | Jenson | It's like one of the songs I got addicted to when I split up with my first boy/f |
18:53.40 | dpash | Next you'll be telling us you're listin to avril levergne |
18:53.58 | zimm | lol |
18:54.00 | zimm | bbiab .. |
18:54.04 | zimm | laters people |
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18:54.09 | Jenson | lol I have 1 Avril track |
18:54.19 | Jenson | I do |
18:54.22 | Jenson | I like everything |
18:54.49 | Jenson | lol |
18:54.58 | dpash | crap canadian with oh so perfect hair |
18:55.01 | Jenson | She's a bit fscking stupid |
18:55.25 | dpash | mandy moore for the skate punkers |
18:55.34 | Jenson | lol |
18:55.51 | dpash | do have a read of her website |
18:55.53 | dpash | it is a hoot |
18:56.00 | Jenson | I think I have on one occasion |
18:56.07 | Jenson | I know an 8 year old who loves her lol |
18:58.48 | dpash | hmmm Jennifer Love Hewitt |
18:58.56 | dpash | http://ubl.artistdirect.com/music/artist/card/0,,1688786,00.html?src=search&artist=Avril+Lavigne |
18:59.27 | dpash | Anything but ordinary. That's putting it mildly when describing Avril Lavigne. A skater-punk, a dynamic spirit, a true wild child. |
18:59.50 | dpash | <PROTECTED> |
19:00.01 | dpash | Avril does exactly that on her debut CD, Let Go, flaunting sassy vocals, a crystal clear voice with real-girl lyrical style. |
19:00.07 | dpash | I think I've said enough |
19:00.26 | dpash | LOL |
19:00.30 | dpash | sorry |
19:00.34 | dpash | "but tracks like "Losing Grip" and "Unwanted" courageously confront rejection and betrayal with all the heaviness such subjects demand." |
19:00.45 | Jenson | lol |
19:00.50 | dpash | who wrote this drivel |
19:01.02 | Jenson | Anyway |
19:01.13 | Jenson | I'm gonna go and let my dad sue Windows to write a latter |
19:01.17 | Jenson | letter |
19:01.19 | dpash | shocking stuff |
19:01.24 | Jenson | coz I wanna be here to chat to zimm |
19:01.32 | Jenson | so I'll catch you at 8 when he should be back |
19:01.34 | Jenson | See ya |
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19:02.12 | dpash | if anyone wants to read the rest: http://www.avril-lavigne.com/indexframes.html |
19:02.19 | dpash | bbl |
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19:06.09 | omphe | hey guys. |
19:13.21 | formi | debianers!! |
19:13.43 | formi | where in the ftp servers are the floppy images? |
19:14.32 | eye69 | formi: debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/bf24 |
19:16.23 | omphe | I thought formi had created a new geek curse: |
19:16.35 | omphe | Where in the ftp are my keys? |
19:17.15 | formi | sparc ones i need |
19:17.55 | eye69 | formi: Kinda obvious which part needs changing then... |
19:19.59 | formi | sorry i was on non-us |
19:20.20 | formi | don't start partying though |
19:20.29 | formi | im not installing debian |
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19:49.33 | gj_ | re |
19:50.52 | dpash | argh apache2 is not execing cgi scripts |
19:51.02 | dpash | hi paul |
19:51.06 | dpash | any ideas? |
19:51.23 | cupis | hey dpash |
19:51.35 | cupis | dpash: none at all, or only some? |
19:51.47 | dpash | er hold on |
19:52.10 | dpash | all |
19:52.18 | dpash | it is showing the source, but executing them |
19:52.36 | dpash | grrr |
19:53.24 | cupis | dpash: you need to enable cgi's using the funky symlinks things in /etc/apache2/mods-* |
19:54.17 | cupis | dpash: /usr/sbin/a2(en|dis)mod |
19:55.41 | dpash | cupis: tried that |
19:56.39 | cupis | dpash: have you manually checked that the links are in the right mod directories (under /etc/apache2) ? |
19:56.55 | dpash | hold on |
19:57.04 | dpash | w00t |
19:57.06 | dpash | that worked |
19:57.18 | cupis | dpash: what did you do? |
19:57.28 | dpash | a2enmod worked |
19:57.54 | cupis | dpash: cool |
19:58.22 | dpash | cupis: fancy doing an upload for me? |
19:58.29 | cupis | dpash: of? |
19:58.34 | dpash | irssi-snapshot |
19:58.45 | dpash | actually I should test it first |
19:58.55 | cupis | I can have a look at it tonight sometime probably. |
19:59.30 | dpash | cool |
20:00.52 | cupis | dpash: do you know how to import a kde2 .kab file into kaddressbook 3? Or what the default location should be for the old file? |
20:01.02 | dpash | no idea |
20:01.07 | cupis | dpash: okay nm |
20:02.07 | dpash | I have a cunning plan |
20:02.23 | cupis | dpash: about what? |
20:02.55 | cupis | ouch. |
20:02.58 | cupis | Ah. |
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20:03.22 | dpash | hi zimm |
20:03.27 | zimm | hey dpash |
20:03.33 | dpash | Jenson is looking for you |
20:03.38 | zimm | is she ? |
20:03.39 | dpash | she should be here soon |
20:03.43 | zimm | where is she then ? |
20:03.45 | zimm | ahah |
20:03.47 | dpash | [19:01] < Jenson> coz I wanna be here to chat to zimm |
20:03.47 | dpash | [19:01] < Jenson> so I'll catch you at 8 when he should be back |
20:04.29 | zimm | hehe , yeh im sharing a login on a library comp at the mo , cos ive been kicked out , and i dont have internet at home ,, its a bit of a pain in the ass tbh |
20:05.01 | cupis | zimm: when? |
20:05.07 | zimm | i could have soo much fun in here with knoppix |
20:05.41 | zimm | cupis: please , dont give me a knoppix disc , they really WILL throw me out if i get hold of one lol |
20:05.51 | zimm | lol |
20:07.11 | dpash | does it have wine on? |
20:07.26 | cupis | dpash: probably not |
20:07.33 | dpash | POS |
20:09.41 | gj_ | anybody has to deal with /etc/pcmcia/config ? |
20:11.11 | cupis | dpash: knoppix _does_ include wine |
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20:11.25 | cupis | ii wine 0.0.20021219-1 Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator) |
20:11.27 | cupis | hi Jenson |
20:11.33 | Jenson | hey cupis |
20:11.42 | zimm | heya Jenson |
20:11.53 | cupis | dpash: did you know that madkiss made DD? |
20:12.12 | Jenson | hiya zimm |
20:12.21 | zimm | :) |
20:12.24 | Jenson | dpash: I'm listening to Jack Off Jill now |
20:13.57 | zimm | lol |
20:14.08 | dpash | cupis: yep he told me earlier today |
20:14.35 | dpash | Jenson: nope don't know that one either |
20:14.50 | Jenson | dpash: Goth band |
20:14.55 | Jenson | www.jackoffjill.com |
20:14.56 | dpash | or goth |
20:15.51 | Jenson | This is good actually |
20:15.58 | Jenson | I might have to bring it to the fest |
20:16.02 | dpash | yep |
20:16.09 | Jenson | Is anyone actually gonna have speakers though? |
20:16.16 | dpash | I'm always open to new music |
20:16.29 | dpash | as long as it isn;t pop crap |
20:16.39 | dpash | Jenson: I'll bring my CD player |
20:16.48 | dpash | Jenson: I'll need it for the train |
20:17.07 | Jenson | Yeah I expect I'll have my discman to |
20:17.10 | Jenson | But not my speakers |
20:17.14 | dpash | cupis: Madkiss offered to sponser the packages he gave to me |
20:17.37 | cupis | dpash: you didn't take him up on it, though? |
20:17.55 | Jenson | Mine are PC speakers.I use them when I connect my discman to the mains and use it as a cd player |
20:18.08 | dpash | cupis: no, kinda scares me doing that |
20:18.16 | cupis | dpash: why? |
20:18.31 | Jenson | And right now I've got them plugged in the CDROM drive so I dont have to configure the soundcard |
20:18.32 | dpash | cupis: let me change it beyond all regognision first |
20:18.41 | cupis | dpash: heh |
20:18.42 | dpash | Jenson: cheat |
20:18.49 | Jenson | dpash: Yeah I know |
20:23.53 | zachary | brb |
20:29.33 | omphe | Found this on a motherboard support page: |
20:29.48 | omphe | A plain boot disk will not be good enogh. If you do not have Windows ME or 98 to create the floppy you can make one on a friend's computer. |
20:30.24 | omphe | Don't remember that in the EULA? |
20:30.35 | dpash | omphe: what if you don't have a friend with a win98 machine? |
20:31.33 | omphe | I arrived at this page by clicking the "Flashing the BIOS for Users using NON FAT file system" link. |
20:32.02 | Jenson | I have a Win98 machine |
20:32.05 | Jenson | this one |
20:32.12 | omphe | Hey, it's a spirit of sharing with M$, I like it. |
20:32.36 | omphe | I thought you did an install Jenson? |
20:33.14 | Jenson | omphe: Its a Win98SE/Slack dual boot |
20:33.59 | omphe | Yeah, I've got a dual boot as well but I only use the M$ partition to store those nasty *.doc files. |
20:34.05 | omphe | :) |
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20:34.59 | Jenson | omphe: I have parents, and my dad won't use Linux |
20:35.09 | Jenson | and my mother ewill only use it to play KFoulEggs |
20:35.14 | zimm | hehe |
20:35.35 | omphe | Look, tell your dad that if he doesn't come around... |
20:35.45 | omphe | he'll have to find his own place! |
20:36.21 | zimm | rofl |
20:36.35 | Jenson | lol |
20:36.45 | omphe | <PROTECTED> |
20:37.38 | omphe | Sorry, I left home at 17, so I forget what it's like to have parents around. |
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20:38.42 | dpash-snapshot | don't mind me, just testing out irssi-snapshot for debian |
20:38.43 | Jenson | omphe: Yeah, I'd be out of here if I could |
20:39.40 | Jenson | :) dpash |
20:39.40 | dpash | but I did leave for 3 years to go to uni |
20:39.56 | dpash | but I do work across the road form my parents |
20:40.06 | dpash | I don't fancy the commute |
20:40.35 | dpash-snapshot | I'd forgotten what a default irssi looks like |
20:41.09 | dpash-snapshot | I think this works |
20:41.22 | zimm | hehe |
20:41.49 | dpash | hmmm you didn't get eh quit msg |
20:42.24 | Jenson | eye69: Where are they, and where are you? |
20:43.36 | Jenson | dpash: lucky you, they'll calk in at any moment |
20:43.42 | Jenson | s/calk/walk |
20:44.11 | dpash | Jenson: not really. I'm at work |
20:44.27 | Jenson | dpash: You work late shift? |
20:44.31 | eye69 | omphe: Is it contageous? |
20:44.40 | eye69 | (don't know the spelling of it) |
20:44.52 | dpash | Jenson: no, but I have my computer at work, because we have a fat pipe here |
20:45.10 | omphe | eye69: hoping a bios flash will sort it out. |
20:45.16 | Jenson | So you could be at home dpash..... |
20:45.19 | eye69 | omphe: Good luck |
20:45.33 | dpash | Jenson: yes, but then you wouldn;t be talking to me ;) |
20:45.46 | eye69 | omphe: I fried my last fileserver board as a result of choosing the right mobo model but the wrong revision |
20:46.01 | Jenson | dpash: Me too Ive just given up trying |
20:46.31 | dpash | Jenson: I wouldn't mind if I just forgot to press it, but I keep typing ; instead |
20:46.40 | omphe | Found this thing behind PizzaSlut so there's little to lose. |
20:46.54 | Jenson | dpash: Yeah I had that problem |
20:47.26 | dpash | hmmm mozerella based bondage |
20:47.30 | zimm | laters |
20:47.32 | eye69 | zimm: Bye |
20:47.35 | dpash | night zimm |
20:47.37 | zimm | byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
20:47.37 | Jenson | cya zimm |
20:59.10 | omphe | gotta go, mouths to feed. cya later. |
21:06.40 | resuDaed | evening all |
21:07.44 | Jenson | heya resuDaed |
21:07.49 | resuDaed | hey Jenson |
21:08.02 | Jenson | How's beth, is she better? |
21:08.22 | resuDaed | yeah, much better ... shes also been accepted at every uni she's applied for |
21:08.50 | Jenson | ooooh well done |
21:08.57 | Jenson | tell her i said well done |
21:09.07 | resuDaed | I will |
21:09.11 | Jenson | cheers |
21:09.21 | dpash | grrrr |
21:09.42 | dpash | resuDaed: not even a GCSE? |
21:09.49 | resuDaed | well 5 or 6 of them |
21:09.59 | dpash | so you do have some then |
21:10.00 | resuDaed | not enough for a uni to give a hit though |
21:10.15 | resuDaed | s/hit/shit ;) |
21:10.38 | Jenson | I have 10 GCSES and one AS Level |
21:10.51 | dpash | Jenson: more than enough for Luton |
21:10.57 | Jenson | :) |
21:11.03 | resuDaed | will luton take me on gcses then? |
21:11.17 | resuDaed | (even if I lie about one) |
21:11.24 | dpash | resuDaed: don't think so, but not far from it |
21:11.46 | dpash | KDE rocks my world |
21:12.22 | resuDaed | blackbox rules mine |
21:12.52 | dpash | stuff like opening a pdf in konq will display it in the same window |
21:12.59 | Jenson | I use KDE |
21:13.06 | dpash | simple stuff, but it still amazes me |
21:13.16 | Jenson | :) |
21:13.20 | resuDaed | I say the same foir bbkeys |
21:13.27 | Jenson | dpash: How long you been using Linux? |
21:13.36 | dpash | since 97/8 |
21:13.55 | Jenson | And you're still amazed at KDE |
21:14.06 | dpash | Jenson: I remember when nothing worked |
21:14.32 | dpash | Jenson: when I started using linux, you have to recompile your kernel to change sound card irqs |
21:14.38 | Jenson | I've been using it since last Novemeber, but only properly for about 2 weeks |
21:14.39 | murble | are their any grub experts here? |
21:14.55 | Jenson | dpash: Dont mention soundcards :D |
21:15.09 | murble | ok, how do i make it typout on slecting between vga console and serial console? |
21:15.11 | dpash | Jenson: who needs sound cards when you have cdroms |
21:15.15 | murble | s/type/time/ |
21:15.33 | resuDaed | I need even 1 (full) a-level for a luton HND |
21:15.42 | murble | don't do an HND |
21:15.42 | dpash | murble: you want it to ask on vga and then automatically go to serial? |
21:16.07 | resuDaed | murble : I am going to be doing an MSc with open uni (current plans) |
21:16.33 | murble | resuDaed: don't you need a first degree umm first? |
21:16.56 | dpash | murble: most MSc first degrees are 4 years or equiv |
21:17.00 | resuDaed | nope ... beauty of open uni ... jump in where you want |
21:17.28 | dpash | murble: ie a 3yr BSc + 1yr MSc, but only one qualification |
21:17.36 | resuDaed | but I'd settle for a BSc at a real uni if they'd accept me |
21:17.37 | dpash | resuDaed: you need to start at the beginning |
21:17.46 | dpash | resuDaed: do some alevels |
21:17.57 | dpash | or work in a job for a few years |
21:18.08 | murble | dpash: do they give an option to bail after 3 years? |
21:18.12 | dpash | resuDaed: most uni's are reasonable |
21:18.17 | dpash | murble: I would hope so |
21:18.21 | murble | sorry i mean 3 * 1 year cats points. |
21:18.28 | resuDaed | dpash : by the time I have done a-levels I'll be 21 and broke, once I am 21 I could do an access course ... but then I do nothing for the next 2 years |
21:18.54 | dpash | murble: probably |
21:19.06 | dpash | murble: grub |
21:19.24 | dpash | murble: /msg? |
21:19.34 | murble | dpash: I think i've figured it out. |
21:19.53 | resuDaed | dpash : I started a-levels (twice), couldn't finish due to the lack of money |
21:19.55 | dpash | the info pages are reasonable (apt-get install grub-doc) |
21:20.07 | murble | dpash: I'm reading them. |
21:20.09 | resuDaed | with uni, I can get a loan and work only to keep my head above water |
21:20.18 | murble | Only, I can't test it very easily. |
21:20.23 | Jenson | I started A levels too.....couldnt finish coz of panic attacks |
21:20.30 | dpash | resuDaed: I am working and doing OU part time |
21:20.38 | dpash | murble: I expect not |
21:20.42 | murble | I started A levels and after 2 years ended up with very rubish ones. |
21:20.51 | resuDaed | that was what I was going to do, except I cannot find work that will pay enough for both |
21:21.18 | dpash | resuDaed: my first OU module is 425UKP |
21:21.28 | resuDaed | I started a-levels at one of the best 6th form colleges in the county, after 6 months (when I left) was predicted 4 As |
21:21.32 | dpash | and you can spreed that over the tiem of the course |
21:21.47 | dpash | most of my a-levels were useless |
21:22.00 | resuDaed | dpash : I am earning that in a month |
21:22.07 | dpash | s/general studies/trivial persuits/ |
21:22.11 | Jenson | I started 4 A levels, then dropped one, then managed to complete on AS level |
21:22.25 | Jenson | Although I've done my work for 3 AS levels |
21:22.29 | murble | how does the new UCAS scoring thing work? |
21:22.35 | Jenson | murble: Weird |
21:22.36 | dpash | physics is useless |
21:23.09 | dpash | my degree didn;t require my information systems a-level |
21:23.24 | dpash | which only leaves my maths a-level which is the only one I really use |
21:23.32 | Jenson | A=120 B=100 C=80 D=60 E=40 I think |
21:23.36 | Jenson | I got forced off of maths |
21:23.49 | Jenson | I got like 8 out of 100 in the P1 exam lol |
21:23.53 | dpash | Jenson: AIUI the exams are not very expensive |
21:24.06 | Jenson | My school re-entered me for them |
21:24.10 | murble | dpash: like 30 quid each. |
21:24.12 | Jenson | But I couldnt deal with the stress |
21:24.19 | Jenson | I was gonna take them |
21:24.22 | Jenson | but I'm so fucked up |
21:24.43 | resuDaed | Jenson s/fucked/fscked |
21:24.52 | Jenson | :) resuDaed |
21:25.27 | Jenson | dpash: Try scandisked lol |
21:26.03 | Jenson | I dont think its meant to be said out loud |
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21:27.03 | resuDaed | Jenson : thats why microsoft use the term 'scandisk' ... so you can pronounce it everytime you reboot after it freezing |
21:27.13 | dpash | murble: looks like it |
21:28.12 | Jenson | resuDaed: True, except I turned that off on mine.is under advanced user settings somewhere |
21:28.18 | resuDaed | I must say, although we do take the piss out of M$ a lot in here (and rightly so), they shoiuld be congratulated on the quality of their manuals as mouse mats |
21:28.41 | Jenson | :) |
21:28.53 | Jenson | I have an SMC Pnuematics mousemat |
21:29.02 | Jenson | I think my dad got it free on a course |
21:29.07 | resuDaed | all linux books I have a approx 3" thick plus and you jave no wrist support, windows manuals tend to be in the region of 5mm |
21:29.19 | resuDaed | s/jave/have |
21:29.20 | Jenson | I have a pog game mat too, that makes a good little mat |
21:30.18 | dpash | so is my mouse mat *boom* *boom* |
21:30.31 | resuDaed | lol |
21:30.43 | resuDaed | ibot lart dpashs sense of humour |
21:32.17 | resuDaed | usefu though |
21:33.39 | resuDaed | almost as usful as /dev/null |
21:33.58 | resuDaed | and that is twice in two posts that I couldn't spell the same word |
21:35.03 | resuDaed | I really must go now, laters all |
21:35.15 | Jenson | cya resuDaed |
21:35.21 | resuDaed | laters Jenson |
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21:46.19 | murble | re Jenson |
21:46.41 | Jenson | ty |
21:50.26 | Jenson | ewww yuk dust! |
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21:54.22 | Jenson | hi |
21:54.34 | new2unix_ | allo Jenson. Hello all |
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22:02.49 | new2unix_ | hello danny boy. |
22:03.11 | dankolb | Hello |
22:10.16 | dankolb | How's it going? |
22:13.29 | new2unix_ | dan: am cool. how's you? |
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22:15.44 | Jenson | Back again |
22:16.01 | dpash | hi |
22:16.10 | new2unix_ | hi dpash |
22:16.13 | Jenson | heya dpash |
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22:18.50 | Jenson | wb omphe |
22:19.47 | dankolb | You scared him off |
22:19.52 | Jenson | Evidently |
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22:20.52 | Jenson | re |
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22:22.02 | Jenson | hi cupis |
22:22.42 | cupis | hi Jenson |
22:22.44 | dankolb | Whee. It's the late-night crowd. |
22:22.46 | cupis | how's it going? |
22:22.49 | new2unix_ | hi cupis |
22:22.56 | cupis | hi new, dan |
22:23.19 | dpash | hello flo^H^H^Hcupis |
22:23.53 | cupis | hi drunkard^Wdpash |
22:24.09 | dpash | I haven;t touched a drop (yet) |
22:24.47 | cupis | dpash: so we've got that to look forward to? |
22:24.56 | cupis | dpash: are you coming down to London on Saturday? |
22:25.13 | dpash | of course |
22:25.30 | cupis | dpash: good stuff. |
22:26.00 | new2unix_ | me is contemplating going |
22:26.15 | cupis | new2unix_: only contemplating? |
22:26.31 | dankolb | Oh dear. Lots of bad music around. |
22:26.41 | dpash | dankolb: no I have good music |
22:26.42 | new2unix_ | haha. forgot the slash again |
22:26.45 | dpash | no britney here |
22:26.55 | dankolb | Spice Girls, then? |
22:26.59 | dankolb | Hanson |
22:27.00 | dankolb | ? |
22:27.05 | dpash | ibot: lart dankolb |
22:27.09 | Tarragon | Aqua is never bad music. OK I now have both Slack and Deb running - Arrrrgggghhh |
22:27.14 | Jenson | dpash: What am I meant to be burning for you |
22:27.14 | dankolb | No no. Serious questions, dpash |
22:27.15 | dpash | ibot: lart dankolb again |
22:27.24 | dankolb | Or are you going to get those from Jenson? |
22:27.24 | Jenson | I've burnt one disc for zimm....lost the other one lol |
22:27.37 | cupis | Tarragon: the inner conflict must be tearing you apart :) |
22:27.39 | dpash | Jenson: nothing, just bring something to listen to |
22:27.44 | Jenson | k cool |
22:27.47 | Jenson | I can do that |
22:28.12 | dankolb | cupis: That's okay - he's veering towards the right side |
22:28.20 | dankolb | Getting over bad stuff is always painful |
22:28.25 | Tarragon | Nah I thought I had better give Slack a proper try |
22:28.30 | dpash | dankolb: I'm hoping to teach Jenson a would outside of the Backstreet boys ;) |
22:28.39 | dpash | s/would/world/ |
22:28.43 | dankolb | Like what, OOI? |
22:29.07 | dpash | dankolb: Flaming Lips, Hell is for heroes, Ben Kweller |
22:29.22 | Jenson | I'm listening to Hanson |
22:29.26 | dpash | death in vegas |
22:29.27 | dankolb | Heh |
22:29.59 | dpash | alterative indie. the kinda stuff they used to play on the evening session |
22:30.10 | omphe | Hanson as in three dopey kids going "ooo, bop, ooo, ooo, ooo, bop"? |
22:30.23 | dpash | I'm hoping to be introduced to some goth and nu-metal |
22:30.26 | dankolb | omphe: Yeah |
22:30.33 | omphe | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaa!! |
22:30.35 | dpash | omphe: no as raving aussie woman |
22:30.42 | dankolb | dpash: Or Spice Girls, Hanson and Backstreet Boys |
22:31.02 | Jenson | i have some good music |
22:31.04 | dpash | cupis: given what dankolb just said, I think I might join you |
22:31.04 | Jenson | I'll bring it |
22:31.16 | dpash | Jenson: no pop-crap though |
22:31.16 | Jenson | dankolb: or Darren Hayes |
22:31.17 | dankolb | dpash: Good idea |
22:31.26 | dankolb | dpash: Or you could get Blue |
22:31.56 | Jenson | omphe: Hanson got a lot better |
22:32.04 | Jenson | I've lost the fucking Adema CD |
22:32.05 | dpash | really? |
22:32.07 | omphe | It wouldn't be hard. |
22:32.14 | Jenson | gotta find that and burn it for zimm |
22:32.19 | dpash | omphe: couldn;t have got much worst |
22:32.34 | omphe | dpash: right on! |
22:32.37 | dpash | Jenson: you are bring it with you on Satuday |
22:32.52 | Jenson | bring what? |
22:33.02 | dpash | Adema |
22:33.05 | omphe | I vote for Rage Against the Machine to exorcise the M$ demons. |
22:33.54 | Jenson | Yeah I'll bring Adema, if I can find it |
22:33.57 | cupis | !lart kmail's lack of built-in PGP/MIME support |
22:35.27 | dpash | cupis: install cryptplug and you can read it |
22:35.50 | cupis | dpash: I can read it in mutt. |
22:36.12 | dpash | cupis: I'll be happy when IE can do PGP/MIME |
22:36.14 | omphe | dpash: It definitely grew on me. |
22:36.22 | cupis | dpash: you mean OEx? |
22:36.30 | dpash | I think I prefered soundgarden |
22:36.35 | dpash | cupis: same thing |
22:36.37 | eye69 | Why would IE do PGP? :) |
22:36.45 | cupis | dpash: Sorry, cryptplug is already the newest version. |
22:36.55 | dpash | cupis: you need to tell kmail about it |
22:37.17 | dpash | in the options -> security -> plugins |
22:37.18 | cupis | dpash: hold |
22:37.27 | dpash | add a plugin and give it the location of the .so |
22:37.38 | dpash | yes it is stupid, but never mind |
22:37.41 | cupis | dpash: yup, I know the place you mean. Trying it now. |
22:39.46 | new2unix_ | ermm... any one want to swap an external modem for a 10/100 3com nic? i have 2 spare. any offers? |
22:40.15 | new2unix_ | i'll chip in a cross over cable or something. |
22:40.37 | Jenson | erm nope |
22:40.43 | omphe | sorry, got a board full of nics sitting in front of me. |
22:40.56 | Jenson | I'll swap you an internal winmodem lol |
22:41.16 | new2unix_ | lol. cheers Jenson. i have plenty of those as it is. |
22:41.50 | Jenson | Well I think it actually works with Linux, I just took it out and put my ext one on before I tested it |
22:42.24 | Jenson | I've got an old graphics card and some quad CDROM drives..... |
22:43.11 | new2unix_ | ok. here's the deal. one winmodem, 2 nics and a pint for one external modem? now is that a deal or is that a deal? |
22:43.29 | Jenson | lol if i had a spare ext modem yeah |
22:43.50 | new2unix_ | dan? |
22:43.54 | dankolb | What? |
22:44.21 | new2unix_ | not inticed yet? dont you need a spare winmodem? or even a drink? |
22:44.53 | new2unix_ | Oh well.. i guess i'm stuck with win for a little while longer :( |
22:45.05 | Jenson | you sure it wont work with linux? |
22:46.01 | new2unix_ | yep. tried it. dont work. but perhaps i didnt try hard enough. patience isnt one of my virtues. |
22:46.16 | dankolb | One of my winmodems is a Lucent chip - I think those work |
22:46.29 | Jenson | new2unix_: I might put mine back in and test it, if it works I'll consider swapping |
22:46.37 | murble | Jenson: I have a "supported" winmodem as well. |
22:46.50 | murble | I also have a 56k external modem that may work. |
22:47.03 | murble | but i'm keeping that... |
22:47.13 | Jenson | Anywau I'm going to bed |
22:47.17 | new2unix_ | Jenson: ermm... can i review that offer before you do your testing? I'd like to pull out one nic and the pint. still interested? lol |
22:47.33 | Jenson | lol new2unix_, well I hate beer |
22:47.56 | new2unix_ | nah. was kidding. |
22:48.02 | Jenson | lol |
22:48.06 | murble | Jenson: we'll have to cure you. |
22:48.08 | dankolb | Yeah. He's not generous enough to offer a pint :) |
22:48.22 | dankolb | murble: Not necessarily the best idea, actually |
22:48.35 | Jenson | Well, do tell me if you're still looking for one by about thursday and i'll test it for you, no doubt someone has one though |
22:48.35 | murble | dankolb: can you cure human flesh in beer? |
22:48.54 | dankolb | Never tried... |
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22:49.07 | Jenson | hi stephen |
22:49.16 | omphe | evening stephen |
22:49.18 | stephen | evening Jenson |
22:49.24 | stephen | & omphe |
22:49.25 | dankolb | murble: Should be |
22:50.01 | new2unix_ | hey. i have no problem buying drinks for those who drink. if i remember correctly... somebody refused a drink i bought them at the last meet. "Once smitten twice shy". |
22:50.16 | dankolb | Yeah - sash |
22:50.20 | dankolb | I ended up drinking it |
22:50.27 | new2unix_ | dan: you remember? lol |
22:50.50 | dankolb | I do. |
22:51.35 | Jenson | I probably wont be fdrinking....I dont wanna have to pee on the like 1hr15 train journey home |
22:51.49 | dankolb | When the trains are so backwards they don't even have toilets |
22:52.08 | Jenson | dankolb: only the last 30 mins |
22:54.05 | Jenson | Oh well, night gus |
22:54.08 | Jenson | guys |
22:54.14 | dankolb | night |
22:54.18 | Jenson | new2unix_: Get back to me if you dont find someone with a modem |
22:54.20 | omphe | night |
22:54.20 | new2unix_ | night |
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23:19.07 | omphe | g'night all |
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23:50.20 | dankolb | 'night all |
23:58.56 | dpash | getting very quiet in here |