| 00:00.00 | omphe | cupis: what's better for firewalling that will allow a M$ user on the network to initiate dialup? |
| 00:00.19 | gj_ | cupis: true |
| 00:00.33 | gj_ | cupis: but i am telling him what for it is used nowdays |
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| 00:00.51 | OrangeSkies | hi |
| 00:00.53 | cupis | gj_: hmm |
| 00:00.54 | OrangeSkies | i got dc |
| 00:01.36 | Leeds | dc is the "desktop calculator" |
| 00:02.25 | highbury | what's the problem? |
| 00:02.47 | omphe | Install keeps hanging around the "making log/root/boot filesystem" phase. |
| 00:03.07 | highbury | omphe: which version are you trying to install? |
| 00:03.12 | omphe | 1.0 |
| 00:04.00 | OrangeSkies | ^--hehe |
| 00:04.23 | OrangeSkies | gonna play tuxracer while me downloads going... wooooo! |
| 00:04.41 | highbury | cd or network install? omphe |
| 00:05.36 | omphe | The motherboard only recognized the cd drive once, then stopped seeing it, so network install, but I never get very far. |
| 00:05.49 | omphe | Could be motherboard problems. |
| 00:06.06 | cupis | omphe: http://www.gibraltar.at |
| 00:06.14 | highbury | omphe: and it recognised boot and driver floppies? |
| 00:06.23 | omphe | yep, no problems |
| 00:06.24 | Leeds | surely gibraltar.gi? |
| 00:07.01 | cupis | Leeds: no, I was answering: <omphe> cupis: what's better for firewalling that will allow a M$ user on the network to initiate dialup? |
| 00:07.06 | highbury | has the machine boot ever booted with a Knoppix CD? |
| 00:07.11 | Leeds | cupis: I know - joking :-) |
| 00:07.20 | cupis | though 'better' is subjective |
| 00:07.23 | cupis | Leeds: :) |
| 00:08.12 | omphe | Thought of that, but I've fiddled with the bios to the point where I can't get the DVD-rom recognized. Old board won't boot from CD drive anyway. |
| 00:09.52 | highbury | omphe: I'd be tempted tto try booting with tomrtbt floppy, and trying to partition/mke2fs the difk to check everythings ok |
| 00:09.58 | omphe | cupis: gibraltar looks promising, but the lack of a web interface rules it out for my widows using spouse. |
| 00:10.09 | cupis | see some of you tomorrow |
| 00:10.16 | omphe | ciao cupis |
| 00:10.47 | highbury | omphe: alternatively can you reset the BIOS to default settings |
| 00:10.56 | omphe | I dumped the HDD into another box and fdisk/mke2fs -ed it. Worked fine. |
| 00:10.59 | Leeds | g'night cupis |
| 00:11.18 | omphe | The board works best with the failsafe settings. |
| 00:11.44 | highbury | omphe: you need to check you can do that with the intended mobo first |
| 00:13.03 | omphe | Right. I'll try to make a tmsrtbt in the morning and give it a go. The install always gets through partitioning, but no fs creation. |
| 00:16.43 | omphe | time for bed. See you all tomorrow. |
| 00:16.54 | highbury | omphe: I'd also recommend trying the 2.0 beta4 version, which has proved very stable, and is a 2.4 kernel based version |
| 00:17.03 | highbury | + ext3 |
| 00:17.21 | Leeds | g'night omphe |
| 00:17.27 | omphe | That'd be one for the Janet connection in the lab! I'm on dialup here. |
| 00:17.32 | OrangeSkies | cya omphe |
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| 00:19.41 | resuDaed_ssh | evening all (anyone) |
| 00:19.48 | OrangeSkies | Leeds: should i be brave and try untar winsetuptk all by myself d'you reckon? |
| 00:19.54 | OrangeSkies | hi resuDaed |
| 00:20.05 | Leeds | OrangeSkies: don't see why not :-) |
| 00:20.08 | OrangeSkies | :) |
| 00:20.10 | Leeds | morning resuDaed |
| 00:20.32 | OrangeSkies | resuDaed: would you like me to bring the hub in tomorrow for a gander? |
| 00:20.33 | resuDaed_ssh | Leeds : bash script - I have line of text, how can I check for a string, and if it is there set a variable to true? |
| 00:20.44 | gj_ | convert: 187 minutes... |
| 00:21.02 | resuDaed_ssh | OrangeSkies : may as well ... if not too inconvenient |
| 00:21.31 | OrangeSkies | resuDaed: i'll ask my ma for lift :) |
| 00:21.51 | resuDaed_ssh | I know using grep I can identify if the string is there, but how can I incorperate it into chanign a variable? |
| 00:22.17 | highbury | resuDaed_ssh: [ "$line" ] && flag=true |
| 00:22.45 | Leeds | resuDaed: something like "echo $string | grep -q foo ; if [ $? -eq 0 ] then yes=1 ; else yes=0 ; fi" |
| 00:22.50 | resuDaed_ssh | ahh!! ... didn't think of that :-) |
| 00:23.09 | resuDaed_ssh | Leeds : sweet |
| 00:23.42 | resuDaed_ssh | $? = $sting? |
| 00:23.57 | resuDaed_ssh | s/stin/string |
| 00:24.01 | murble | $? is the exist code. |
| 00:24.07 | murble | s/exist/exit/ |
| 00:24.10 | Leeds | resuDaed: needs ; after the ] |
| 00:24.39 | resuDaed_ssh | thanks ... know the status of exit codes will be very useful |
| 00:25.24 | highbury | if echo "$string" | grep -q foo; then yes=1 ; else yes=0 ; fi |
| 00:26.05 | Leeds | a little neater, but harder to read |
| 00:26.15 | Leeds | it should be on multiple lines, anyway |
| 00:27.27 | murble | you could even avoid the if |
| 00:28.03 | resuDaed_ssh | IMHO it is cleaner with the if |
| 00:28.22 | Leeds | I prefer cleaner code... (which is why I prefer Python to Perl) |
| 00:28.24 | Leeds | :-) |
| 00:28.28 | murble | resuDaed_ssh: you should strive to make it as small and non understandable as possible:) |
| 00:29.14 | highbury | no=`echo "$string" | grep -q foo; echo $?` |
| 00:29.29 | gj_ | dank_work: jak sie masz dzisiaj :) |
| 00:29.39 | resuDaed_ssh | how do I grep for "<script> but case insensitive? |
| 00:29.50 | highbury | grep -i |
| 00:29.57 | resuDaed_ssh | thanks |
| 00:30.38 | murble | why say s/say/said/ when you can say sbsaybsaidb ? |
| 00:30.58 | Leeds | murble: I refer you to my comment about perl and python... |
| 00:32.45 | Leeds | hang on... |
| 00:32.59 | Leeds | hm.. |
| 00:33.00 | Leeds | no |
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| 00:34.14 | Leeds | morning formi_ |
| 00:34.35 | formi_ | the internet connection is craping on me |
| 00:41.14 | murble | formi: give it a good kickig |
| 00:41.40 | Leeds | well, that worked :-) |
| 00:41.54 | gj_ | convert : 208 minutes |
| 00:42.11 | dpash | who wanted a drive fan? |
| 00:42.26 | dpash | come on own up |
| 00:45.49 | murble | fg % |
| 00:46.48 | resuDaed_ssh | is if [ $i -eq true && $j -eq true ] correct? |
| 00:48.02 | murble | if what? |
| 00:48.09 | murble | i mea then what |
| 00:48.26 | murble | and true isn'tn an integer |
| 00:48.46 | resuDaed_ssh | ok, so I replace with integers, but is the use of && correct? |
| 00:48.49 | murble | and you are trying to do an integer comparison. |
| 00:49.18 | OrangeSkies | Leeds: hey, could i ask for your help again for a min? |
| 00:49.19 | murble | if $i is equal to 4 and $j is equal to 5 etc yes. |
| 00:49.31 | Leeds | OrangeSkies: go ahead... but I'm going to bed in a minute :-) |
| 00:49.32 | resuDaed_ssh | thanks ... all I wanted to confirm |
| 00:49.38 | OrangeSkies | hehe ok... |
| 00:49.51 | murble | resuDaed: the bset way to confirm is to do soem test cases :) |
| 00:49.55 | murble | s/do/run/ |
| 00:50.46 | OrangeSkies | Leeds: could i paste you some instrutions i've been following in a dcc? there's only 3 steps |
| 00:50.52 | Leeds | go ahead |
| 00:50.55 | OrangeSkies | ta |
| 00:51.51 | OrangeSkies | hehe ok... i don't even know how to get a dcc going now |
| 00:52.34 | highbury | resuDaed_ssh: you prev statement could be "if $i && $j" |
| 00:52.59 | highbury | plenty of scripting guys around to help round here |
| 00:53.17 | murble | highbury: Only if he isn't comparingi them for other exit values |
| 00:53.21 | Leeds | OrangeSkies: do it here.. |
| 00:54.31 | highbury | "-eq" only tests for integer equivalence, not string |
| 00:56.24 | OrangeSkies | Leeds: now? or did you type that a while ago? |
| 00:57.10 | resuDaed_ssh | ok, I have finished (I think) the script, would anyone care to give it a once over (please)? |
| 00:57.28 | highbury | post it here |
| 00:57.32 | Leeds | OrangeSkies: in the other window |
| 00:57.45 | OrangeSkies | k :) |
| 00:57.48 | highbury | ? which other window? |
| 00:58.38 | Leeds | highbury: chat |
| 00:58.41 | gj_ | YEAH! |
| 00:58.50 | gj_ | convert has finished |
| 00:58.50 | gj_ | haha |
| 00:58.59 | gj_ | over 200 minutes |
| 00:59.00 | gj_ | ;] |
| 00:59.01 | resuDaed_ssh | highbury : it is 29 lines |
| 00:59.03 | murble | resuDaed: help test |
| 00:59.48 | resuDaed_ssh | anyway, the function is to remove all script from an html file |
| 00:59.53 | gj_ | 357 MB |
| 00:59.58 | gj_ | animated gif |
| 01:00.02 | gj_ | 40 second movie |
| 01:00.05 | gj_ | 640x480 |
| 01:01.55 | resuDaed_ssh | ok, I am posting it online (so as not to flood) |
| 01:04.36 | resuDaed_ssh | http://stolen.servehttp.com/monalith/rmjava |
| 01:05.50 | gj_ | but gif is huge |
| 01:05.55 | gj_ | compared to mpeg - 19 MB |
| 01:06.57 | Leeds | resuDaed: where does $db get set? |
| 01:07.14 | Leeds | or $i for that matter? |
| 01:07.28 | resuDaed_ssh | well noticed, $db should be $dest |
| 01:07.44 | resuDaed_ssh | and so should $i |
| 01:08.47 | Leeds | you don't need to check if the file exists and if it's a normal file which exists |
| 01:09.21 | resuDaed_ssh | yes, I know ... thata line copied from an orrigional script that needed to check the both |
| 01:09.39 | Leeds | I don't like your indent style :-) |
| 01:10.08 | Leeds | this may be better in something like perl or python :-( |
| 01:10.10 | murble | It certaily is't python :) |
| 01:10.24 | Leeds | shell isn't really suited for this kind of text processing... |
| 01:10.27 | resuDaed_ssh | I have only been coding bash for a couple of weeks, I havn't yet fully developed my whitespace techniques |
| 01:11.00 | Leeds | I do "if [ foo ]\nthen\n\tbar\n\tbaz\nfi" |
| 01:11.31 | highbury | ie align if then else fi |
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| 01:11.58 | Leeds | yeah |
| 01:11.59 | resuDaed_ssh | yes, I will modify accordingly once tested |
| 01:12.07 | highbury | this sort of processing is better suited to awk or perl |
| 01:12.28 | resuDaed_ssh | but in theory is correct? |
| 01:13.05 | resuDaed_ssh | I have around 120 files to parse, so a nice little for i in wrapper I think |
| 01:13.11 | murble | highbury: and maybe even sed! |
| 01:13.11 | Leeds | why do you set script to false at the start? |
| 01:13.17 | highbury | but you need to get rid of syntax errors first, also don't use similar names for things, i.e Script and script |
| 01:13.34 | highbury | harder to do in sed |
| 01:13.53 | resuDaed_ssh | because it was orrigionally set to true, and I changed my mind ... I now realise it is not needed thx |
| 01:13.59 | murble | highbury: sed is fun to learn. |
| 01:14.41 | highbury | yep, especially hold spaces <shudder> |
| 01:15.12 | highbury | the main $(cat $dest) is flawed, it will wrap the complete file onto one line |
| 01:15.52 | resuDaed_ssh | how else do I parse 1 line at a time? |
| 01:16.02 | highbury | the code needs comments |
| 01:16.19 | highbury | cat $dest | while read line; do .... ; done |
| 01:16.29 | Leeds | cat file | while read ; do something to $REPLY ; done |
| 01:17.24 | resuDaed_ssh | anything else? |
| 01:17.28 | highbury | Leeds: your missing argument to read, you need to have a variable to then process |
| 01:17.53 | Leeds | highbury: nope - it puts it into $REPLY by default if no name is given... at least in bash |
| 01:18.06 | highbury | ahhh, neat. |
| 01:18.54 | resuDaed_ssh | so $i is now $REPLY? |
| 01:19.05 | Leeds | something like that |
| 01:19.09 | resuDaed_ssh | (online version is now updated) |
| 01:20.50 | resuDaed_ssh | it doesn't like line 19 |
| 01:21.23 | resuDaed_ssh | the if containing &&, reports missing ] |
| 01:22.27 | resuDaed_ssh | any suggestions? |
| 01:22.30 | Leeds | missing $ |
| 01:22.59 | resuDaed_ssh | I know, I just saw it that second :-) |
| 01:23.42 | resuDaed_ssh | that isn't it though |
| 01:23.57 | resuDaed_ssh | ./rmjava: line 19: [: missing `]' |
| 01:24.10 | Leeds | the problem is that it's getting to that line and one of the variables isn't declared... make sure they're all declared in advance |
| 01:24.19 | highbury | try to align script and endScript |
| 01:24.24 | Leeds | they *don't* default to 0 - they default to a null string |
| 01:24.35 | highbury | put "set -u" after first line |
| 01:24.53 | resuDaed_ssh | what is the function of 'set -u'? |
| 01:24.54 | highbury | which will warn about uninitialised variables |
| 01:25.00 | resuDaed_ssh | ah |
| 01:25.07 | Leeds | good call |
| 01:28.15 | resuDaed_ssh | I am still getting the error about missing ] on what is now line 23, I have decalred necessary all variables to =0 |
| 01:28.52 | resuDaed_ssh | updated online version again |
| 01:29.05 | Leeds | add -x to the bash line and tell us exactly what is failing... |
| 01:29.13 | Leeds | you *are* working on a backup of your data files, right? |
| 01:29.31 | resuDaed_ssh | Leeds : yes |
| 01:31.06 | resuDaed_ssh | + echo '</html>' |
| 01:31.07 | resuDaed_ssh | + grep -qi '</script>' |
| 01:31.07 | resuDaed_ssh | + '[' 1 -eq 0 ']' |
| 01:31.07 | resuDaed_ssh | + echo '</html>' |
| 01:31.07 | resuDaed_ssh | + grep -qi '<script' |
| 01:31.07 | resuDaed_ssh | + '[' 1 -eq 0 ']' |
| 01:31.09 | resuDaed_ssh | + '[' 0 -eq 0 |
| 01:31.11 | resuDaed_ssh | ./rmjava: line 23: [: missing `]' |
| 01:31.13 | resuDaed_ssh | + endScript=0 |
| 01:31.15 | resuDaed_ssh | + read |
| 01:31.17 | resuDaed_ssh | sorry for flood |
| 01:31.23 | resuDaed_ssh | didn't think |
| 01:33.48 | Leeds | just update the script on the website again? |
| 01:34.20 | resuDaed_ssh | is now the most recent version again |
| 01:34.54 | Leeds | I think maybe it should be "if [ $script -eq 0 ] && [ $endScript -eq 0 ] |
| 01:35.20 | resuDaed_ssh | that would make sense re: the error |
| 01:36.24 | highbury | if [ $script -eq 0 -a $endScript -eq 0 ] |
| 01:36.30 | resuDaed_ssh | it has run w/out errors, just inspecting the output now |
| 01:36.54 | Leeds | highbury: yes, or that |
| 01:39.46 | formi_ | im off to bed |
| 01:40.04 | formi_ | well actually to reach the light switch |
| 01:40.10 | formi_ | good night |
| 01:42.12 | highbury | your not using $src anywhere |
| 01:43.41 | Leeds | I think he wants to be reading from $src not $dest :-) |
| 01:50.15 | resuDaed_ssh | still misbehaving |
| 01:50.19 | resuDaed_ssh | running fine now |
| 01:50.26 | resuDaed_ssh | just not picking up properly |
| 01:51.03 | resuDaed_ssh | if grep exits with 0 does that mean it did or didn't find a match? |
| 01:51.22 | Leeds | rtfm |
| 01:52.28 | resuDaed_ssh | lol, that had to come at some point didn't it |
| 01:52.44 | Leeds | yup |
| 02:00.24 | resuDaed_ssh | I am giving up for tonight ... I want to be remotly awake for tomorrow |
| 02:00.39 | resuDaed_ssh | night all |
| 02:01.52 | Leeds | g'night |
| 02:01.54 | Leeds | seeya later :-) |
| 02:34.38 | dpash | anyone still up? |
| 02:34.46 | Leeds | yup |
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| 03:01.34 | OrangeSkies_ | Hi |
| 03:01.41 | Leeds | ... |
| 03:01.47 | OrangeSkies_ | i got cut off |
| 03:02.00 | Leeds | you mean you missed what I've been saying :-) |
| 03:02.09 | Leeds | broadband truely rocks |
| 03:02.11 | OrangeSkies_ | hehe yup!!! |
| 03:02.26 | OrangeSkies_ | last thing i got was whoa deja vu |
| 03:02.29 | Leeds | we can continue here... |
| 03:02.37 | OrangeSkies_ | okay... |
| 03:02.42 | Leeds | <Leeds> cgi is just a way for a web server to call external programs to generate web pages... |
| 03:02.42 | Leeds | <Leeds> and the cgi-bin is the directory where the cgi binaries live :-) |
| 03:02.42 | Leeds | <Leeds> except that they're usually not binaries, but executable scripts... but that's not important right now |
| 03:02.42 | Leeds | <Leeds> so the only important thing left is the "sudo make install" |
| 03:02.42 | Leeds | <Leeds> without going into detail on sudo now - it basically means "do this as root" |
| 03:02.43 | Leeds | <Leeds> so you run make install as root |
| 03:02.47 | Leeds | <Leeds> which copies all the binaries and other stuff |
| 03:02.51 | OrangeSkies_ | so... now i've done a botch job install of all this crap, am i a bit screwed? |
| 03:03.08 | Leeds | which botch job? |
| 03:03.13 | OrangeSkies_ | hehe well... |
| 03:03.26 | OrangeSkies_ | my wine install went a bit balls up |
| 03:03.47 | OrangeSkies_ | cos its asking for files from funny directories now that exist but in the wrong place |
| 03:03.52 | Leeds | oops |
| 03:03.58 | OrangeSkies_ | indeed lol |
| 03:04.10 | OrangeSkies_ | will that mess up my system d'you think? |
| 03:04.16 | Leeds | probably not |
| 03:04.32 | OrangeSkies_ | ok... i can't be arsed reinstalling mandrake again |
| 03:04.59 | OrangeSkies_ | i messed up my graphics card settings the other day and x wouldn't start |
| 03:05.24 | OrangeSkies_ | and because i didn't know anything about using the console i had to format and start again :( |
| 03:06.58 | Leeds | it happens... |
| 03:07.35 | Leeds | it's always useful to have another machine on a network you can login from and reboot your machine cleanly say, if you kill you X settings... |
| 03:07.36 | OrangeSkies_ | i managed to get opengl working nicely now though |
| 03:07.44 | Leeds | I've done it many times :-) |
| 03:08.00 | OrangeSkies_ | hehe |
| 03:08.21 | OrangeSkies_ | i wouldn't know how to get a network going from the console though |
| 03:08.25 | OrangeSkies_ | so anyway! |
| 03:08.27 | OrangeSkies_ | where were we? |
| 03:08.48 | OrangeSkies_ | binaries installed... we're ready to go? |
| 03:09.01 | Leeds | yeah, pretty much |
| 03:09.05 | OrangeSkies_ | :) |
| 03:09.10 | OrangeSkies_ | brill |
| 03:09.18 | OrangeSkies_ | i might have another go at getting wine to work now... |
| 03:09.43 | Leeds | that's it... mplayer is installed at /usr/local/bin/mplayer and, for example, if everything is alright, "mplayer -dvd 1" will do the expected thing |
| 03:10.47 | OrangeSkies_ | i was up til 5am on tuesday having cocked up my graphics settings |
| 03:11.20 | OrangeSkies_ | it wasn't the wine install that messed up, it was winesetuptk |
| 03:13.43 | Leeds | did you actually install it? |
| 03:15.20 | OrangeSkies_ | no cos there was an error when i configured |
| 03:15.45 | OrangeSkies_ | i think i need to move a directory to /root because thats where it seems to be looking for it |
| 03:16.52 | Leeds | what I would do is delete the two unpacked source directories and start again |
| 03:17.09 | OrangeSkies_ | ok i'll do that |
| 03:18.41 | Leeds | and I think it's time for me to sleep... |
| 03:18.51 | highbury | and me too |
| 03:19.05 | highbury | see you guys tomorrow |
| 03:19.18 | Leeds | g'night |
| 03:21.06 | OrangeSkies_ | d'oh i never got to say thanks |
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| 05:26.29 | dpash | happy mailman day |
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| 08:05.58 | murble | moin |
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| 09:11.00 | zachary | good morning |
| 09:21.07 | highbury | morning |
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| 09:31.46 | stephen | right, i'm off, hopefully see most of you there |
| 10:07.40 | eye69 | Morning |
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| 11:36.21 | Davilion | hi Leeds |
| 11:36.23 | Davilion | you coming today? |
| 11:41.55 | Leeds | yup... |
| 11:42.00 | Leeds | I slept in - just got out the shower |
| 11:43.14 | Davilion | ahh cool, im going to leave in ten mins or so |
| 11:43.28 | Leeds | me too :-) |
| 11:43.39 | Davilion | you coming for food this evening? |
| 11:43.55 | Davilion | if nobody has been lynched i could go a curry or something |
| 11:44.11 | Leeds | could be a good plan |
| 11:44.17 | Leeds | who is going to be lynched? |
| 11:46.07 | Davilion | not sure, but theres been lots of sexual tension on irc recently |
| 11:46.26 | Leeds | oh, that |
| 11:46.31 | Davilion | heh |
| 11:47.02 | Davilion | anyway im off, i'll be thgere in a couple of hours. ,im going to park in euston and give somebody a phone |
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| 12:01.08 | nasrat | happy saturday |
| 13:36.25 | murble | happy gllug install fest. |
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| 15:05.02 | new2unix | anybody here? |
| 15:06.02 | new2unix | Oh well... I guess thats the price to pay for waking up soo late :( |
| 15:06.04 | new2unix | Bye all |
| 16:07.03 | Clyphox | hey all |
| 17:14.58 | Clyphox | wlo? |
| 17:15.04 | Clyphox | er elo? |
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| 17:17.35 | Clyphox | hello? |
| 17:17.42 | nasrat | hi |
| 17:18.11 | Clyphox | Hows it going? |
| 17:18.50 | nasrat | not bad- you? |
| 17:19.56 | Clyphox | bad.. just spent 60 quid on grog/grub for a party at home tday and noone seems to be able to come now.. |
| 17:20.05 | Clyphox | Can't find a job either.. |
| 17:20.27 | Clyphox | And got a Digital Camera that isn't supported by gphoto :(( |
| 17:21.51 | nasrat | grr!!! |
| 17:22.20 | nasrat | the market is pretty poor atm |
| 17:22.38 | nasrat | and you can always write the support for your camera :) |
| 17:22.39 | Clyphox | esp here in Aberdeen.. really siht |
| 17:22.43 | nasrat | What is it? |
| 17:22.47 | Clyphox | er sh1t |
| 17:23.15 | Clyphox | SipiX Stylcam SNAP |
| 17:24.50 | nasrat | ah so no media |
| 17:25.55 | Clyphox | Bastard.. I can't run it off my hub.. means I have to unplug form the Net to plug this bugger in.. |
| 17:29.27 | Clyphox | yeah.. good ol logs.. here is a snip from /proc/bus/usb/devices : |
| 17:29.30 | Clyphox | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:29.32 | Clyphox | S: Manufacturer=SiPix?StyleCam RAVE/SNAP DSC?1?Configuration?Interface????????????????????????N?????????????????? |
| 17:29.34 | Clyphox | S: Product=StyleCam RAVE/SNAP DSC?1?Configuration?Interface????????????????????????N?????????????????????? |
| 17:29.35 | Clyphox | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:31.27 | nasrat | http://www.dragoninc.on.ca/mail-archives/linux-usb/2002-08/0283.html |
| 17:34.00 | nasrat | and maybe this one too http://www.teaser.fr/~hfiguiere/linux/digicam.html |
| 17:40.01 | Clyphox | Ahh.. the Stylcam on the gphpoto website is 0xc77/0x1000 but mine is 0x1010... |
| 17:42.52 | nasrat | you may need to grab from cvs |
| 17:42.58 | nasrat | got to go |
| 17:43.06 | Clyphox | What I am thinking.. cya |
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| 18:31.14 | armijn | 'llo |
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| 18:57.09 | asadar | anyone listening? |
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| 19:00.06 | Clyphox | me.. |
| 19:00.30 | Clyphox | what was that you /m 'ed me? |
| 19:00.52 | Clyphox | looks like crud |
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| 19:39.28 | OrangeSkies | hey all |
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| 20:34.10 | OrangeSkies | anyone alive? |
| 20:34.35 | nasrat | sort of |
| 20:35.41 | OrangeSkies | hmmm... i could do with some help |
| 20:39.31 | nasrat | shoot |
| 20:41.00 | OrangeSkies | ok well... i have debian with x configured to a p/s2 mouse |
| 20:41.18 | OrangeSkies | (thanks to resuDaed earlier on) |
| 20:41.18 | OrangeSkies | cept i got a serial mouse at home |
| 20:41.29 | OrangeSkies | and i think the same things happening with my keyboard cos its not recognising that either |
| 20:41.49 | OrangeSkies | and... i dont have the debian cds so i cant boot into rescue mode or whatever its called |
| 20:41.56 | OrangeSkies | so like... what do i do hehe |
| 20:42.10 | OrangeSkies | no mouse & no keyboard! |
| 20:42.34 | nasrat | at the boot prompt boot into single user mode (eg linux single) |
| 20:42.43 | OrangeSkies | how do i do that? |
| 20:42.49 | OrangeSkies | theres no option in the loader |
| 20:42.57 | nasrat | are you using grub? |
| 20:43.09 | OrangeSkies | uh, i don't think so but i'm not sure |
| 20:43.40 | nasrat | does it say lilo at startup, or have a splash screen or what? |
| 20:43.48 | OrangeSkies | it's not lilo |
| 20:44.16 | nasrat | ok press b and you should get a prompt |
| 20:44.30 | nasrat | then type linux single |
| 20:44.42 | OrangeSkies | ok |
| 20:44.54 | OrangeSkies | so which file do i need to edit? |
| 20:45.03 | OrangeSkies | XF86-Config or something |
| 20:45.11 | nasrat | easiest way might be to run dpkg-reconfigure |
| 20:45.20 | OrangeSkies | ah yeah |
| 20:45.38 | OrangeSkies | i should be alright there |
| 20:45.59 | OrangeSkies | thanks :) |
| 20:46.01 | nasrat | you may also be able to just hit ctrl-alt-f1 from X to get to a console login |
| 20:46.27 | OrangeSkies | ok i'll give that a try too |
| 20:48.18 | KMD | Anyone here seen the latest Linux Mag with CD Issue 29 ? |
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| 22:30.27 | davilion | evening all |
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| 23:12.08 | new2unix | ibot gllug |
| 23:12.08 | | well, gllug is the Greater London Linux User Group at #gllug or http://gllug.linux.co.uk |
| 23:12.23 | new2unix | ibot topic |
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| 23:21.18 | new2unix | hi highbury |
| 23:21.23 | highbury | hi there |
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| 23:22.12 | highbury | GLLUG - Greater London Linux User Group - http://gllug.org.uk |
| 23:22.28 | highbury | did you make it to the meeting? |
| 23:23.56 | new2unix | nope. i over slept. was out with mates till very late. set my alarm this morning but slept right through it |
| 23:24.37 | new2unix | woke at 3pm. didnt think there was any need to join the crew at the GreenMan |
| 23:30.31 | highbury | oh well your loss. I got to bed a 3:30, woke up at 8:30 and still made it.... :-/ |
| 23:32.41 | new2unix | i do that every other day. bed at 2am. up at 6am. thats why its extra difficult during the weekend. Its as if my biological clock knows that i aint working and so refuses to listen and be awakened by the alarm clocks (3 of them) |
| 23:37.20 | highbury | never mind, maybe next time |
| 23:59.52 | stephen | yeah, 'one' has a horrible tendency of growing |