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00:00.04omphe_gaimphwoar, this is even uglier than kirc!
00:01.20dpash_homeomphe: only irssi looks perty
00:01.40dpash_homeokay I'm going
00:01.40dpash_homenight all
00:01.41dpash_homehopefully the sat will come back up later
00:01.43dpash_homeand I'll reconnect
00:01.57omphe_gaimI like how simple irssi is
00:02.01cupisnight dpash_home
00:02.14dpash_homeand you can talk to eliza, but otherwise I will speak to you tomorrow
00:02.15omphe_gaimlater dpash_home
00:02.26dpash_homecupis: can we do some irssi-snapshot stuff tomorrow?
00:02.27omphe_gaimenough of this...
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00:02.45cupisdpash_home: of course
00:02.50dpash_homequick lets say nasty things about omphe_gaim
00:02.52dpash_home;)
00:03.04cupisdpash_home: email me or txt me or something if I'm not already online
00:03.05dpash_homecupis: you'll be around tomorrow
00:03.12dpash_homecupis: okay
00:03.23cupisdpash_home: on and off unless I have reason to stick around
00:03.37dpash_homecupis: my wonderful charisma?
00:04.00cupisdpash_home: no comment
00:04.04cupis:)
00:04.29dpash_homeshall I read about Computer Misuse or OU crap about identities?
00:04.53cupisdpash_home: or both, and get no sleep :)
00:05.06dpash_homeI think law book
00:05.08dpash_homenight all
00:05.13stephennight dpash_home
00:05.22ompheg'night
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00:29.50stephensleep is for the week, just use pepsi/coke/whatever to keep you awake :)
01:37.19gj_:)
01:38.15gj_pepsi !
01:38.24stephenyer
01:50.28TarragonSleep is for the weak. Mind over matter. Michael Caine in Ipress File just finished
01:50.38TarragonNow to find food
02:31.21highburygetting late now, probabaly time for bed
02:33.41stepheni think so too, except that I feel fine
09:28.10Tarragonmorning
09:38.06stephenmorning Tarragon
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10:39.02skuggwhich is better/more widely deployed for building pdf-files from LaTeX sources? dvipdf / dvipdfm or  pdflatex?
11:46.33highburymorning
11:49.17resuDaed_sshmorning
11:51.52Tarragonskugg: pdflatex and thumbpdf
11:53.02resuDaeddoes anyone know how to delete an item from an ebay auction?
11:53.10resuDaed(from a sellers point of view)
11:53.44resuDaedI have negotiated an outside of ebay deal with the seller, and he is not sure how to remove the bid
11:53.49resuDaeds/bid/item
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11:55.46dpashhi all
11:56.02Jensondpash: Can I annoy you about my bloody soundcard hon?
11:56.35dpashsure why not
11:57.04TarragonresuDaed: Sorry no can help
11:57.29dpashJenson: what isn't working
11:57.41JensonWell, as you might remember. I spent like 2 hours discussing it with Leeds last night. Now I've rebooted and it hasn't autoloaded the drivers (which it should have done) so what do i do know.
11:57.45Jensons/know/now
11:58.09dpashJenson: I don't recall the conversation with Leeds
11:58.27dpashbut under debian you would put the list of modules to load in /etc/modules
11:58.38dpashI'm not sure if slack as a similar list
11:58.50dpashcalling all slack lusers
11:58.53JensonWell, I'm actually meant to be getting dressed and going out lol.
11:58.57JensonI'll read the logs
11:58.58JensonThat might help
11:59.06dpashJenson: yeah I'll find out for you
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12:01.29JensonMorning Leeds
12:01.36dpashah just the person we need
12:01.38Leedsafternoon
12:01.39Jensonlol
12:01.42Leedsuh-oh
12:01.43dpashLeeds: indeed
12:02.02JensonLeeds: Why hasn't the damn soundcard drivers autoloaded themselves after I rebooted?
12:02.02dpashLeeds: is there a file in slack where you can list all the modules to load at boot time?
12:02.26Leeds/etc/rc.d/rc.modules
12:02.36dpashJenson: there you go
12:02.44dpashput the modules in that file
12:02.50Leedswhich you fixed yesterday, didn't you?
12:03.07JensonYeah
12:03.11Jensonand it worked yesterday
12:03.41Leedsdid you reboot yesterday?
12:03.44JensonYeah
12:03.56JensonI get killed if I dont turn the computer off
12:04.06Leedsand it worked when you rebooted yesterday?
12:04.11JensonPlus this is dual-boot coz I have Windows obsessed parents
12:04.13JensonNope
12:04.16JensonI hadnt rebooted
12:04.22Leedsright...
12:04.39Leedsso if you do /sbin/lsmod now it's not listed?
12:04.43JensonI switched the computer off at 5am after the formula 1 lol
12:04.59JensonNo it isnt listed
12:05.33Leedshmm... I was actually awake then :-(
12:05.56Leedsand if you do "grep emu10k1 /etc/rc.d/rc.modules" what do you get?
12:06.14Jenson#/sbin/modprobe emu10k1
12:06.15Jenson#/sbin/modprobe emu10k1-gp
12:06.41Leedshmm...
12:06.56Leedsyou're meant to have changed that yesterday when I talked you through the vi commands
12:07.12Jensonlol, I probably did it wrong then
12:07.22JensonMe and vi don't mix lol
12:07.41Leedsso
12:07.58Leedsdo exactly what I tell you - no hesitation, deviation or repetition
12:08.30JensonI have the logs too
12:09.09LeedsMar 08 20:27:29 <Leeds>right, you're root?
12:09.09LeedsMar 08 20:27:52 <Jenson>am now
12:09.09LeedsMar 08 20:28:13 <Leeds>right, type "vi /etc/rc.d/rc.modules"
12:09.09LeedsMar 08 20:28:31 <Leeds>then "/emu10k1" and hit return
12:09.09LeedsMar 08 20:28:41 <Leeds>then hit d, then space
12:09.10LeedsMar 08 20:28:52 <Leeds>then type ":wq: and hit return
12:09.18Leedshmm...
12:09.25Leedsokay - there's something wrong there
12:09.50Leedsit should be ":wq" not ":wq: - and you're not typing the "", that's to mark a block of stuff to type
12:10.21Jensonright then
12:10.25Jensonlemme try it again
12:11.21Jensonright done that
12:11.35Leedsso try the grep line again
12:11.56Jenson#/sbin/modprobe emu10k1-gp
12:12.02dpashLeeds: I prefer x
12:12.32LeedsJenson: that's all you get?
12:12.35Jensonyeah
12:12.54dpashJenson: but where is the fun in that?
12:13.09dpashanyone having issues with /. this morning?
12:13.18Jensondpash: I think my mate will kill her if I'm late for meeting her
12:13.22Jensondpash: Havent tried
12:13.23Leedsdpash: not noticably
12:13.29resuDaedafternoon all
12:13.32Jensonhey resuDaed
12:13.42LeedsJenson: in which case, you didn't do what I said, because I'd guess you deleted the whole line :-(
12:13.44resuDaedJenson : you sound card still not working?
12:13.52dpashLeeds: ?
12:13.57JensonresuDaed: It was...until I rebooted
12:14.07dpashLeeds: ah /.
12:14.12dpashLeeds: ignore me
12:14.17Jensondpash: Wake up lol
12:14.18resuDaedcreate an account for one of us, add the name to sudoers, and let someone hack :-)
12:14.24dpashJenson: is she geeky?
12:14.49Jensondpash: Nope, she's cute though. I'm gonna attempt to drag her to the next meet
12:14.52LeedsJenson: if that line is missing from the file, you've done something wrnog
12:15.08resuDaedBeth nearlly killed me ... I spent the night painting warhammers
12:15.49dpashJenson: maybe you could rub some of your geekyness off on to her ;)
12:15.50JensonresuDaed: And she wanted you to pay more attention to her I assume
12:15.58resuDaedJenson : for some reason yes
12:17.35resuDaeddoes somoeone update WHOIS servers on weekends?
12:17.50resuDaedor do I have to wait till monday for resudaed.com to resolve
12:17.58dpashresuDaed: whois gets updated regularly
12:18.06Leedstwice a day, I think
12:18.23resuDaeddpash : 24-72 hours (I was guessing that the 72 applied for w/ends)
12:18.34Leedsit can take a bit of time for new stuff to come through though - I think changes are quicker
12:18.36dpashnominet is/was daily, but after ebay.co.uk troubles they are going to move to more regularly
12:18.46JensonWell I gotta go. I'll kill the damn card later
12:19.05dpashsecondary root% whois you-don-treally-exist.com | wc
12:19.06dpash<PROTECTED>
12:19.09dpashshocking
12:19.31dpash>>> Last update of whois database: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 17:33:14 EST <<<
12:19.47Leedspity Jenson didn't actually want to fix her damn sound driver...
12:20.08dpashLeeds: yeah all it would have taken was a x or two
12:20.20dpashwomen bah
12:21.02Leedswere my vi instructions *that* hard to follow that she's apparently deleted the whole line?
12:21.18dpashLeeds: dd ?
12:21.26dpashcould have done
12:21.55LeedsI assume so :-(
12:22.20dpashwhich is why I prefer x
12:23.43LeedsI don't think "then hit d, then space" is that hard :-)
12:24.05dpashd whoops I hit it twice
12:25.02Leedsyeah, well
12:25.31LeedsI far prefer to talk people through something rather than just giving them instructions, but I don't think Jenson has the patience...
12:25.40dpashhttp://lwn.net/Articles/24747/
12:25.49dpashIn other words, had IBM not wandered into Linux, SCO's products would still be doing fine in the marketplace. Right.
12:28.03dpash"The speculation that SCO's real goal is to be acquired may have a certain amount of merit."
12:28.14dpashLeeds: why? you work for sun?
12:28.30Leedsyeah, I work for Sun... and have done for going on for three years now...
12:28.38Leedssince being laid off by SCO :-)
12:28.58dpashLeeds: SCO not Cal^H^H^HSCO
12:29.11Leedsyeah, SCO, not Scaldera
12:29.34dpashLeeds: what do you think to this?
12:29.40dpashLeeds: are they trying to get brought?
12:29.51LeedsI would think so, yes
12:30.11dpashI think IBM should just crush them in court
12:30.16dpashand not buy them
12:30.20LeedsI don't know how much it might have to do with it, but there was some *very* bad blood around after the failure of Project Monterey
12:30.40dpashwasn't that NG-Unix
12:30.46dpashwhat is not AIX5L
12:30.52dpashs/not/now/
12:31.03Leedswhat>
12:31.05Leeds?
12:31.14Leedsno, not really
12:31.26dpashUnix on ix64
12:31.51Leedsit was a merging of technology between Unixware (technically SVR5) and AIX (based on SVR3) to create a unified line on PPC, x86 and IA64
12:33.59Leedsin practice, it was IBM mining SCO's IA64 experience (SCO had Unixware *running* on IA64 before Monterey came about) to port AIX to IA64...
12:44.45dpashSCO is not going to survive for very long after this
12:53.35Huhnre
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12:58.32dpashhi Huhn, Beth
12:58.46Huhnhi dpash
12:58.58dpashHuhn: we were just talking about SCO
12:59.08resuBitchHi all
12:59.38resuDaed_sshhey resuBitch :-)
12:59.41dpashHuhn: there is an interesting page on lwn.net
13:00.16Leedsdpash: by the way, I noticed you commented on LWN :-)
13:00.16resuDaed_sshmaybe I should register resuBitch.com aswel :-)
13:00.34resuBitchresuDaed  Hey gorgeous
13:00.56resuBitchWouldn't mind. :))
13:01.00Huhndpash: will have a look later, thanks for info
13:01.44resuBitchne idea where to get a good graphics cards?
13:01.55LeedsresuBitch: to buy one?
13:01.55dpashLeeds: on an earlier article, yeah
13:01.55resuDaed_sshfor your box?
13:02.21resuBitchNope friend
13:02.30resuBitchYep, buy
13:02.47dpashresuBitch: microdirect.co.uk is not too bad
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13:02.51dpashhi cupis
13:02.59cupishi
13:03.02LeedsI quite like aria.co.uk
13:03.51resuBitchdpash: Thanx
13:04.21resuDaed_sshresuBitch : try ebay ?
13:04.40resuDaed_sshresuBitch : who's it actually for?
13:04.49resuBitchA friend :P
13:05.13resuDaed_sshwell, if I knew them, I might be able to buy @ trade?
13:05.29resuBitchJoels g/f
13:06.33resuDaed_sshbtw, I think duplications might sell you one, but I wouldn't trust the people that work there
13:06.56resuBitchOi
13:07.04resuDaed_sshhow decenet a gfx card?
13:08.09resuBitchGeforce 4 Ti4400 or Geforce 4 Ti4600
13:08.15resuDaed_sshaverage gamer?, 3d CGI animator
13:08.23resuDaed_sshah, /me will look
13:13.00Leedsin fact, I did... I've got a 128Mb Radeon 9000 Pro in this box...
13:16.11dpashLeeds: snap
13:17.24Leedsow! put that towel away
13:19.09dpashibot: lart Leeds
13:30.08dpashhmmm I've booked tomorrow off work, but my boss has made appointments for me tomorrow
13:30.29dpashI think our group calander prog is crap
13:31.03LeedsI run our team calendar - I found a nice GPLed (I think) web calendar and set it up for the group...
13:31.31Leedswhich was great until I trashed my desktop and lost everyone's calendar :-(  it's now running on one of our backed-up servers...
13:33.17Leedsit's actually a *really* nice system - http://www.ma.utexas.edu/users/mzou/webCal/
13:36.33dpashLeeds: it would be cool if you could integrate it with request-tracker
13:37.21Leedsrt is perl, isn't it?  probably possible for someone who (unlike me) can think in punctuation...
13:37.42dpashLeeds: you mean you aren't a emacs user
13:37.48Leeds!
13:37.57Huhnno, he's using an editor, not an operating system ;))
13:38.14LeedsI didn't say think in brackets...  I was refering to Perl :-P
13:38.32dpashLeeds: have you ever looked at brainfuck?
13:38.40Leedsyeah, briefly...
13:39.05Leedsafternoon, Huhn :-)
13:39.17Huhnhi Leeds :)
13:40.01HuhnI used to have a simple one, but wanted to create my own syntax highlighting..
13:40.19Huhnand ended up with a discussion with another vim user on a mailinglist..
13:41.12dpashmine has kinda grown a life of it's own over the last 5 years
13:41.29Leeds5 years ago I was still using nedit...
13:42.01HuhnI like this one: nmap :W :w or: nmap :Q :q :)
13:42.23LeedsI try not to need that one :-)
13:43.04LeedsI don't have any mappings - partly because I do find myself using Unix vi sometimes
13:43.10Huhnmh, I found a function in the .vimrc of this other girl, I don't understand
13:43.55Huhncan I paste 10 lines into this window and you have a look if you can explain it to me?
13:43.58Leedstry
13:44.00Huhnor is 10 lines too much?
13:44.14dpash<PROTECTED>
13:44.14Leeds*I* don't care... but it could get you kicked
13:44.15skuggHuhn, try #spamspamspam or something :P
13:44.21dpash#flood
13:44.26Huhnhi skugg :)
13:44.30skugghi Huhn
13:44.34skugg(and others)
13:44.44Leedsyeah, except I saw someone getting kicked from #flood the other day for flooding!
13:44.50Huhnskugg: how was the pub on Friday?
13:45.03skuggHuhn, quiet :P
13:45.31dpashHuhn: if you want to /msg me if everyone else is buggering off
13:45.38skuggLeeds, wow. that's a feat I imagine :P
13:45.43skuggwhat where they pasting?
13:46.05LeedsX logs
13:48.01skuggibot paste
13:48.01skugg: I give up, what is it?
13:48.05skuggdamn.
13:48.37Leedsit's what you put wallpaper up with, isn't it?
13:49.44skuggmaybe. there's a few pages on the net where you can paste in stuff and point people to the url-- I saw one of those some time ago.
13:49.58skugginstead of having the channel #flood etc.
13:50.25skuggi can't remember the url though -- I thought maybe i registered it with ibot.
13:51.30skuggah, here it is: http://paste.husk.org
13:51.44skuggibot paste is go to http://paste.husk.org
13:51.45skugg: okay
13:51.54skuggibot paste is see http://paste.husk.org
13:51.55...but paste is already something else...
13:52.15skuggibot forget paste
13:52.15skugg: i forgot paste
13:52.17skuggibot paste is see http://paste.husk.org
13:52.18okay, skugg
13:53.19skuggseems to work well.
13:53.30skuggah well, off to run...
13:54.01skugg:)
13:59.16skuggawwwwright. well, /me is going now. bye.
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14:04.51highburyhey formi-rasta, did you try that cdrom yet?
14:05.11formi-rasta<PROTECTED>
14:05.19highburycool
14:05.45formisolaris installed without a problem
14:05.49highburyit came from my old 486
14:06.00highburycool+
14:06.09formido you know what's the speed of it?
14:06.24highbury4x ?
14:06.28highburynot sure
14:06.45formiit tooks ages to install 400 megs
14:07.01formii suppose the hard disk helped as well
14:07.07highburyyou can probably look up its model number
14:07.14formii did
14:07.18formino luck
14:07.21highburySolaris can be slow to install
14:07.58formithe only thing I found strange was that in where you select the packages
14:08.11formiit wouldn't allow me to deselect anything
14:08.48highburyhmm, web-style install or other type?
14:09.05highburythere are several look and feels to the install process
14:09.33formiserial install
14:09.34highburysome flakier than others, especially since its 2.7 and not the latest and greatest
14:10.56highburyanyways, it was a slow cd-drive
14:11.04highburyand at least it worked
14:11.08formiwell it works
14:11.23formii used to have a tosh 10x scsi
14:11.47formireally nice piece of hardware until it started malfunctioning
14:12.36highburyI forgot did mine need caddies? Did you have any? well you must of, but do you need more?
14:12.56forminope
14:13.02dpashthere is something I haven't thought of in a long while - caddies
14:13.12formiit just slided on the slot without much ado
14:14.56formihighbury: do you know much about ipv6?
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14:58.13stephenafternoon Jenson
14:58.41Jensonheya stephen
15:03.48gj_re
15:04.04gj_there were few guys recording last fest on video
15:04.23gj_is there any chance to get mpeg || avi ?
15:06.36gj_highbury: ?
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15:16.34gj_????
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15:19.17dpashhi paul
15:19.25cupishi dpash
15:19.27dpashare you going to leave us again?
15:19.28dpash;)
15:19.37cupishopefully I'll be on for a bit
15:19.59cupismy git of a brother decided to reboot the gateway machine to win98 and disable the gateway program on it
15:20.19dpashcurrently playing with vim syntax highlighting for Huhn
15:21.00Huhndpash: thanks very much ;))
15:21.04Huhnhi cupis
15:21.09cupishey Huhn
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16:01.09skugghey again.
16:01.38skugg_shaky_legs<-- have been running, hence the shaky legs
16:01.55Jensonheya skugg_shaky_legs
16:02.07skugg_shaky_legshi jenson
16:02.23skugg_shaky_legswhat you up to?
16:02.51skugg_shaky_legswho's resubitch? resudaed's girlfriend?
16:02.52skugg_shaky_legs:)
16:03.00JensonWell my mate was here...so we've been talking about guys and stuff, now I'm just sitting areound, my parents have gone out for a walk but I've a\lready done thaty today
16:03.07JensonYeah resuBitch is his girl/f Beth
16:03.17skuggi see.
16:03.59JensonI'm hungry, I've eaten one chocolate bar today...and I was awake half the night watching the formula 1
16:04.00skuggself-delivering nick that.
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16:04.35Jensonhey cupis
16:04.44skuggheh. I knew it was on but couldn't be arsed to stay up. I went to bed (relatively) early and got up very early for a sunday.
16:04.58cupishello
16:05.11skugghave been working on enhancing `package-framework' a bit today
16:05.16JensonI went to bed at 11:30, was awake from 2:30 til 5:30 then got out of bed at 11:30
16:06.05skuggibot package-framework is a not-very-mature but really nice replacement for autoconf/automake
16:06.06skugg: okay
16:07.05skuggeh, not my project though... i'm just contributing
16:07.07skugg:)
16:07.13skuggjust had to add that :)
16:07.27skuggoh, and hi cupis by the way... :)
16:07.34cupishi skugg :)
16:08.05Jenson:)
16:08.56skuggJenson, that picture of you on tarragon's page... did you breathe on the lens? :)
16:09.02Jensonlol
16:09.04skuggit's very unclear...
16:09.26skuggor was it the camera-man breathing heavily :)
16:09.36Jensonlol
16:09.46JensonI think we were walking at the time
16:09.59JensonWe were meant to be taking pictures of houses for coursework
16:10.31JensonI'm wearing that tshirt now...it's my BMW.Williams tshirt - it was time to get it out of the draw again
16:12.05JensonBRB - need food
16:22.46Jensonback
16:26.48highburygotta, reboot, etc
16:27.02Jensonk highbury
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16:31.23pie'lo peeps
16:31.42pieYou are all prettier in real life than in ascii.
16:31.47Jensonheya Will
16:31.50Jensonty lol
16:32.06pieApart from Skugg, who looks like a <cough>lamer<cough>
16:32.09pie:-)
16:32.11piehello
16:32.37dpashpie: even me? you have bad tastes
16:32.53Jensondpash: You're gorgeous...both me and my mate think so
16:33.32Jenson:)
16:33.43resuBitchHi all
16:33.49Jensonhey Beth
16:34.07resuBitchHowz you?
16:34.11dpashBeth: please tell everyone I am not gorgeous
16:34.13JensonAlright
16:34.14Jensonyou?
16:34.19Jensondpash: I've met you :)
16:34.57resuBitchdpash: depends on who you really are, haven't managed to put nicks together with real people...
16:35.07dpashthere is a page of images somewhere
16:35.11dpashI forget the link
16:35.14dpashpie?
16:35.17JensonI'll get it
16:35.22resuBitchlol, but your real name is?
16:35.27dpashDavid Pashley
16:35.32Jensonhttp://gllug.linux.co.uk/ircphoto.html
16:35.35resuBitchHave I meet you?
16:35.39pieOh, sorry, talking to my wife about houses
16:35.43pieme?
16:35.46dpashresuBitch: don't think so
16:35.57Jensondpash: She wasnt at the last meet, she went shopping
16:36.01dpashpie: thought you may have the link to the irc photos
16:36.07pieyes
16:36.14dpashresuBitch: bah shopping indeed
16:36.14pieum, very pretty.
16:36.18resuBitchlol, was dragged into Camden by mad ballonists.
16:36.31Jensonlol
16:36.33dpashresuBitch: they would have to be
16:36.34dpash;)
16:37.04JensonYou should have been there Beth. I tried to tell Tom that you were lucky to have a goodlooking guy like him, and it came out all wrong infront of him and Alex
16:37.34resuBitchBet they loved it. :) I agree though.
16:37.52Jenson)
16:37.54Jenson:)
16:38.03JensonIt was bloody embarrassing
16:39.05resuBitchSure Tom was more embarrassed. :)
16:39.17Jensonlol He may well have been
16:39.31JensonI didn't attempt to tell anyone else they were good looking after that
16:39.39resuBitchdpash: You are v pretty.
16:39.45resuBitchdpash: btw
16:40.04resuBitchAh, not even Alex :(
16:40.25dpashzimm is looking very purposeful
16:42.24skuggpie: hey, I take offence of that! you saying I'm _not_ a lamer? I only look like one? :)
16:42.41resuBitchI'm off. :) Take care all
16:42.52dpashbye resuBitch
16:43.35dpashhmmm cybersex
16:43.45dpashthat is something I've never partaken in
16:43.54Jensondpash: That was zimm on New Years Eve, pissed off his head
16:44.22Jensondpash: I have, once, aint worth the effort, cyber flirting/cyber feeling up is cool...but not the sex part, its just amusing
16:44.43dpashJenson: surely you need to stop doing what ever you are doing to type the next bit
16:44.56dpashwould kinda ruin the mood a bit
16:45.11Jensondpash: Most cybersex freaks of geeks can type one handed
16:45.28Jensonlol
16:45.51Jensoncyber isn't really sexual, its just amusing
16:45.58dpashcupis: I have only just got the hang of typing without looking at the keyboard
16:46.11Jensondpash: I can't do that half the time
16:46.14dpashcupis: I don't think one-handed is going to work for me
16:46.38Jensondpash: Type with the hand you write with.I'm usually typing one handed and eating with the other
16:46.50dpashis cybersex classed as cheating?
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16:46.59Jensondpash: Not by me
16:47.05dpashJenson: I don't need to eat more food
16:47.12skuggdpash, depends entirely on the person I would think.
16:47.36dpashskugg: no really I don't need to eat more food
16:47.53skuggdpash, but I do :)
16:48.20JensonOnce I got two bitchy emails in one week for cyber flirting...and one of the guys I didnt even know he had a girl
16:48.25skugg(despite the effort! :} )
16:48.54skuggdpash, funny definition of food you have.
16:49.12Jensonwb Huhn
16:49.22Huhnty Jenson
16:50.12dpashskugg: read Fast Food Nation
16:50.27dpashskugg: then you'll know why i chose a McDonalds
16:50.30skuggdpash, no thanks. I want to be able to enjoy food the next 10 years too.
16:50.32Jensondpash: Is that the one about the 150 animals in one burger
16:50.40dpashJenson: and worse
16:50.52dpashJenson: you won;t eat after reading it
16:51.19Jensondpash: I went straight for pizza 10 seconds after a biology lesson disecting hearts....
16:51.22dpashadmittedly most of it is about american practices and the EU is (should be?) much better
16:51.28Huhnhttp://www.Rissington.net/LifeExplained.jpg
16:51.30pieHello skugg
16:52.16JensonHuhn: Brilliant lol
16:52.18dpashHuhn: surely the men's label is wrong
16:52.30Huhndpash: it should be off? ;)
16:52.32dpashskugg: meat ~= lamb
16:52.51dpashHuhn: no it should have 2 "on"
16:53.17skuggdpash, so why isn't it specified? lamb is often one of the choices too, and 'meat' often come in addition...
16:53.30skugghi pie
16:53.31pieHow about 'off' and 'idling'?
16:53.31dpashskugg: not that I've seen
16:53.35Huhndpash: so the woman's label should be "off" and "completely off"? :)
16:53.36skugghow's business?
16:53.44dpashHuhn: probably
16:53.45pieHmm, ok
16:54.01piefairly busy I suppose
16:54.16dpashskugg: I was impressed with the kebab I had in brussels, as you could tell it actually came from an animal
16:54.30Jensonah dpash but which animal?
16:54.36skuggdpash, yeah, it was okay.
16:54.53dpashJenson: one that you would want to eat
16:54.54skuggJenson, irrelevant. as long as it wasn't soy beans...
16:54.58pieWhat, there is no animal called a 'kebab'?
16:55.01dpashJenson: you could tell that too
16:55.03pieOooo
16:55.10Huhnpie: :)
16:55.36pieI know a guy that thought that tuna (from tins) was made from Dolphins.
16:55.44JensonwTF
16:55.57pieBecause the tins said 'Dolphin freidly' on them.
16:56.03dpashsome is better than others
16:56.14piehe thought the Dolphins were killed humanely and turned into tuna...
16:56.23dpashpie: how would that be friendly to the dolphins? being chopped up into small tims
16:56.31pieor tuna for that matter
16:56.59pieum, I guess maybe killing them quickly instead of taking your time about it.
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16:57.42skuggpie, interesting theory.
16:57.42Jensonhi formi
16:57.46Huhnwb formi
16:58.04pieYes, yes it is.
16:58.24skuggi mean, the tuna being made of dolphins :)
16:58.27formihello
16:58.43Huhnbah
16:58.49Jensonlucky formi
16:58.58pieYes, slightly mis-informed
16:59.05HuhnI have to go, ice hockey game tonight, see you later
16:59.22Jensonsyya HuhnSHARKS
16:59.26Jensonseeya even
16:59.34formiot: how do you creante a bootable floppy on 2000?
16:59.42Jensonerm
16:59.49JensonLike you did in 98 I expect
17:00.03formisys c: a: doesn't work
17:01.01Jensonformi: Try going to My Computer and right clicking and going to properties
17:01.43formiformat /s a: doesnt work
17:02.44gpjzieeeew
17:04.09dpashformi: I'm not sure the concept exists in win2k
17:04.21Jensondpash: It should. I think it does in XP
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17:07.15formi_bloody mirc
17:07.31Jensonformi_: Why don't you d/l XChat?
17:07.44formi_the machine is not mine
17:07.57formi_and there is a load of crap on it already
17:08.28JensonDo you klnow how to do a boot disk in Win98...or would that information help?
17:08.37JensonBecause i can tell you that
17:08.42JensonBut I dunno about 2000
17:09.14dionisowhat boot disk do u want to make?
17:09.28Jensonhey dioniso
17:09.32dionisofor windows 2000?
17:09.33dionisohi
17:09.56formi_a simple loppy disk to wipe a disk
17:10.26dionisoa simple floppy disk to wipe a disk? what does it mean
17:10.31dioniso?
17:10.31dpashformi: I know how you feel (wrt mirc)
17:10.33Jensonformi_: Have you tried going into the control panel and then add/remove programs and looking for it there?
17:10.48formi_yes i did
17:11.03dionisoshould this not be a linux channel?
17:11.42formi_dioniso
17:11.45Leedsdioniso: it is, but it goes off-topic occasionally
17:11.53cupisLeeds: occasionally?
17:11.58formi_newbies in here shouldn't ask those questions
17:12.09Jensonformi_: Are you simpally trying to format and then install linux
17:12.35formi_nope just wiping the hard disk
17:12.38dionisoi don`t understand the use of the floppy u are trying to make
17:13.13formi_i just want to format the disk
17:13.13dionisoso u need something like a win 98 boot floppy
17:13.23formi_yes
17:13.27JensonAnd Win 2000 doesnt have DOS?
17:13.30dionisodo u have win 98?
17:13.48dionisou can`t boot win 2000 in dos
17:14.18Jensonformi_: If you wait a few mins I can send you the Win98 boot floppy files as a zip file then you can just unzip them and put them ion disk
17:14.34dionisoit`s easy to make one if u have win 98
17:14.37dionisodo u have it?
17:14.49JensonI have win98 thats why I'm offering to send him the files
17:14.51formi_don;t worry im downloading tomb floppy disk
17:15.17JensonOK then
17:15.35JensonI gotta go
17:15.39JensonGonna get d/ced
17:15.50formi_google not working
17:15.53JensonIf it doesnt work formi_ I'll send you a copy
17:16.09formi_im using epic4, no dcc here
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17:18.13JensonWell evidently i cant do the washing up right now so I'm back
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17:21.11dpashformi: opendos?
17:21.46Jensonformi_: Can't you get the command prompt on boot up with 2000?
17:22.21formi_nevermind
17:25.28JensonLaters
17:27.32Leedswhich would be the first time I've ever bought on ebay... I bid for something 2.5 years back, but didn't win...
17:28.09skuggbid for something but didn't win.
17:28.55Leedswell, there's 4 minutes to go, and I'm winning right now... at my maximum bid
17:29.15dpashwhich is how much?
17:29.31Leeds22 quid
17:29.36dpashthe only reason for a PS1 is grand tourismo
17:29.51LeedsI want to play dancing games...
17:29.58Leedsseriously :-)
17:29.58dpashLeeds: tart
17:30.08dpashLeeds: okay your a serious tart
17:30.20Leedsthey're fun
17:30.41Leedsif you haven't tried it, don't knock it
17:30.43dpashand so is driving a rusty nail through your testicles
17:30.55Leedsmakes you look bloody silly though...
17:30.58Leedsboth of the above :-)
17:31.01dpashLeeds: yes I have tried the dancing crap
17:31.13dpashnot the nail thing though
17:32.24Leedsit also comes with 4 other games...
17:32.33Leedsincluding Grand Tourismo 2
17:32.44Leedsand I won it...
17:32.48resuDaed_sshrealisticly, what OS would be best on a 486/33, 8MB RAM and a 240MB HDD?
17:32.51resuDaed_sshslack?
17:33.01Leedsslack would be good...  
17:33.04Leedswould you need X?
17:33.23resuDaed_sshonly if it fits with space left (which I very much doubt)
17:33.42resuDaed_sshI have another 400MB HDD I can chuck in ther actually
17:34.02resuDaed_sshwould 200MB be enough for a root?
17:34.05Leedsyou could get X on it, but it would strain to run... would you need a devsys?
17:34.11dpashresuDaed_ssh: rh5 fitted in 83 Mb
17:34.57Leedsproblem with recent slack - it *really* wants to install from bootable CD... you can make boot floppies, but I think it needs about 7 of them :-(
17:35.26resuDaed_sshcan it not do a net install? (Ne2k (ISA) NIC)
17:35.30dpashresuDaed_ssh: debian needs 6 floppies and an ethernet
17:35.31skuggdebian installs very nicely via the network if you can only boot from floppies...
17:35.43dpashskugg: or ppp
17:35.47Leedsyou can do a netinstall with most things... but you need to boot first
17:35.48skugg6 floppies? since when?
17:36.02dpashskugg: root, rescue and drivers 1-4
17:36.03LeedsSlack will install over NFS :-)
17:36.15dpashso will debian iirc
17:36.16resuDaed_sshhow many floppies would slack need to get to the stage of installing from network?
17:36.34dpashokay food calls
17:36.43skuggdpash, hm. you might be right. but drivers 1-4 are not always needed though, are they?
17:36.54LeedsresuDaed_ssh: the same 7-ish :-(
17:37.20resuDaed_sshis there not a distro that can boot from a single floppy, find an ne2000 NIC and go from there (with NFS)?
17:37.43Leedsgetting a kernel and enough of a system to netinstall on one floppy is pretty hard
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17:37.59resuDaed_sshI might have a CDROM I can throw in, but I doubt it'll boot from CD
17:38.31Leedsunlikely
17:38.47Leedspossible, but unlikely
17:39.19resuDaed_sshgoogles down :-(
17:39.41resuDaed_sshServer Error
17:39.41resuDaed_sshThe server encountered a temporary error and could not complete your request.
17:39.42resuDaed_sshPlease try again in a minute or so
17:39.50resuDaed_ssh(3 times)
17:40.04Leedsooh, so it is!
17:40.08Leedsnot seen that before...
17:40.15resuDaed_sshme neither
17:40.22resuDaed_sshthought google was solid
17:41.07resuDaed_sshgot through on .co.uk
17:41.36resuDaed_sshnope, died again
17:43.08resuDaed_sshin theory, I only need net.i and a root disk for an NFS install don't I?
17:43.12Leedsgoogle Israel is up :-)
17:43.29Leedsgoogle.co.il
17:44.11resuDaed_sshwhat is devsys?
17:44.35Leedsdevelopment system - gcc, all the headers, stuff like that
17:44.40resuDaed_sshah
17:44.42Leedsit's pretty big
17:44.54resuDaed_sshwell, I have 200 + 400 MB now
17:45.42LeedsIf you are unable to boot the Slackware installation CD directly, you'll
17:45.42Leedsneed create these floppy disks in order to load the installer.  In the past,
17:45.42Leedsthere's only been one rootdisk floppy called "color.gz", but now there are
17:45.42Leeds5 floppy images, and you'll need all five of them.  The reason for this is
17:45.42Leedsthat the size of the installer image after compression has exceeded 1.44MB,
17:45.43Leedsand the kernel can either load a compressed rootdisk image, or an uncompressed
17:45.45Leedsone that spans multiple floppy images.
17:45.56Leeds(From the slack 8.1 rootdisks/README.txt)
17:46.39resuDaed_ssh:-(
17:46.49resuDaed_sshI only have 1 working floppy
17:46.56resuDaed_sshand 8MB RAM
17:47.06Leedsuse an old slack?
17:47.17resuDaed_sshmaybe I write a lilo floppy to boot the cd?
17:47.57Leedsthat's not going to work...
17:48.07dpashisolinux might
17:48.15resuDaed_sshLeeds : why not?
17:48.30dpashlilo does know how to access a cd
17:48.32Leedsbooting CDs is a special thing - needs BIOS support
17:49.15Leedslilo might be able to boot from CD with BIOS support, but it's very unlikely to work otherwise...
17:49.31dpashLeeds: isolinux should be able to do it
17:50.30Leedsisolinux isn't going to be able to do much if the BIOS doesn't have El Torito support
17:50.46dpashLeeds: put it on a floppy
17:50.51dpashboot from floppy
17:51.13Leedshow does that help?
17:52.02dpashLeeds: because el torito takes a floppy image off the CD and pretends that it is accessing a floppy
17:52.26dpashso if you create a isolinux floppy you are doing what el torito would do anyway
17:52.29Leedsright - I know that
17:52.51Leedsbut if the floppy image is bigger than 1.44Mb?
17:53.01dpashbut it isn't
17:53.11dpashthe kernel is on the cd
17:53.21resuDaed_sshwhat if I chuck the hd in another box, copy a minimal install of slack, write the MBR, then put it back in the first box and boot from HDD?
17:53.24Leedsoh, whatever...
17:53.25Leedsmaybe
17:53.50resuDaed_ssh??
17:53.55LeedsresuDaed_ssh: that would work
17:54.42resuDaed_sshI have one that uncompresses to around 120MB
17:55.11resuDaed_sshcan I run lilo from another hdd?
17:55.25resuDaed_sshie can you specify the destination drive?
17:55.49Leedsyup
17:56.12dpashalmost a hole in one
17:56.32resuDaed_sshso I reboot my box with hdd in and go from there (in which case I'll be back in abuot 3 mins)
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18:11.36Leedsso my mum just called me to ask me how to start a conversation with Trillian :-)
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18:13.44dpashanyone up for a game of alantik?
18:14.54Leedspossibly...
18:15.01dpashLeeds: it does require kde3.1
18:15.06dpashand kdegames
18:15.46resuDaedok, for some reason, I cant see my hdd properly
18:16.02Leedsoh, maybe not...
18:16.03Leedshang on
18:16.23resuDaedit has been found on /dev/hdc, which IIRC is set to SCSI emulation
18:16.41resuDaedbut I cannot fdisk onto wither /dev/hdc or /dev/scd0
18:16.43Leeds/dev/hdc is an ATAPI device, not SCSI!
18:17.12resuDaedLeeds : it is using the ide-scsi emulator (thats where my burner was)
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18:18.44Leedsin which case it's not likely to be /dev/hdc :-)
18:19.01LeedsI have ide_cd and ide_scsi as modules, so I can load or unload them at will
18:19.26resuDaedresults of dmesg | grep hdc
18:19.36resuDaedKernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=Linux ro root=301 hdc=ide-scsi
18:19.36resuDaedide_setup: hdc=ide-scsi
18:19.36resuDaed<PROTECTED>
18:19.36resuDaedhdc: Conner Peripherals 425MB - CFS425A, ATA DISK drive
18:19.36resuDaedhdc: driver not present
18:20.37Leedsah
18:24.20resuDaedlsmod
18:24.22resuDaeddoh
18:25.47resuDaedide-scsi is a module ... therefore can be unloaded
18:26.51Leedsright
18:27.01LeedsI did say that :-)
18:27.51resuDaedyou said you had them as modules ... I said I do to :-)
18:28.58Leedsokay, okay...
18:29.30resuDaedmount: special device /dev/hdc0 does not exist
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18:30.17resuDaedduh ... hda1
18:30.17resuDaedhdc1
18:31.14resuDaedok, so where the hell is this harddrive hiding in my /dev/ ?
18:31.46resuDaedor is it not anymore?
18:31.50Leedsyou probably have ide-hd compiled into your kernel...
18:32.22resuDaedmeaining?
18:32.24Leedsso when you booted and told it to ignore hdc so ide-scsi could have it, it did so... and since you can't reload ide-hd on a running system... :-(
18:32.49resuDaedso whats the solution, short & long term?
18:33.16Leedsreboot without the hdc=ide-scsi bit in the kernel command-line'
18:33.43resuDaedbut then I will not be able to use burner?
18:34.32Leedsnot while you've got the hard drive plugged in instead, no :-)
18:34.36resuDaedok, rebooting now anyway, be back in 90 seconds
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18:40.39Leedsso?
18:41.33resuDaedworking, partitions created and file system created, just looking for my minislack
18:41.55resuDaedthanks for help so far :-)
18:43.29resuDaedjust downloading (at a mere 14kB/s :-() a 32MB BZip of a minimalist slack install
18:44.10Leedszipslack?
18:44.26stephencool, I didn't realise that you could get slack inside 30mb
18:44.59Leedsit's designed to install to a UMSDOS directory on a FAT partition :-)
18:45.30stephenoh, actually, I think I got splack installed on my sparc in under about 50, which would be about right
18:45.32highburyanybody have any spare 3com pcmcia network card dongles?
18:46.04stephenyeah, zipslack was the first distro I ever had, but never counted it as 'proper linux' duno why though
18:52.37dpashstephen: cos it is slackware?
18:52.59stephendpash: *slap*
18:53.37stephenlol at "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots"
18:54.03skuggslapware? :)
18:59.19stephenI'll give it a go along with perhaps redhat, mandrake etc, just to see what they're like
19:00.00LeedsI am impressed, as ever, with VNC - taking over my parents computer from hundreds of miles away and making them listen to my music :-)
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19:02.57GatoNegrois there anyone about
19:04.02Leedsa few
19:04.49stephenLeeds: :)
19:05.17GatoNegrohi leeds - can you give m any info on any upcoming gllug meetings (question mark is oddly absent from this keypad!!)
19:06.23LeedsGatoNegro: see the title and the website - next meeting is planned for the 12th of April
19:07.10GatoNegronext full meeting - anything at all planned b4 that time - long way away!
19:08.36stephenwe had an installfest week ago yesterday
19:08.44Leedsnothing formal - we only have formal meetings every 6 weeks or so
19:12.39GatoNegrobut gllug gets togeher more often than that (insert question mark!)
19:15.12highburywe're currently alternating InstallFest and Full Meetings
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19:15.32highburycheck out the website for latest news when we have it
19:16.00GatoNegrook hbry and all - cheers
19:16.26resuDaedstephen : its not zip slack, and it doesn't fit within 30 MB, that is a highly compressed bzip, it total it takes about 60MB minimium
19:16.54stephenok, I see resuDaed
19:17.35resuDaedits something used for lazy installations ... you unzip, write the mbr, you are installed, from which point you then compile kernels/whatever else you want
19:18.08stephenok
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19:20.02resuDaedworks pretty well, and for the impatiant, you can have a working linux in 5-10 minutes
19:20.25stephenyer, takes me a while to install slack
19:20.48resuDaedI'll chuck it on my webserve if you want
19:21.13stephennah, tis alright, thanks
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19:21.28stephendon't intend to install much in the near future
19:22.16stephenthat said, I feel I may be having to install 9.0 as soon as it hits stable
19:22.18DavilionAyeUp
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19:22.31stephenevening Davilion
19:22.53resuDaedI just cant wait to see how long the kernel compile will take (486/33)
19:23.06resuDaedI think it'll be a very cut down kernel
19:23.47DavilionresuDaed: it used to take about 8 days for 2.0.0 on my 386
19:24.11resuDaedlol, well this'll probably be about 6 for 2.4.20
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19:57.21Davilionhi Jenson
19:57.33Jensonhey Davilion
19:57.58JensonI'm just popping in for 5 mins before dinner...coz my dad asked me to check his mail for him
19:59.03JensonHow are you Davilion?
20:02.16Davilionhow was your day?
20:02.42JensonI've had a nice day, wandered about with my mate, and sat around on the internet lol
20:03.25Davilionim ok, had a busy day
20:03.50JensonAnything fun?
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20:04.31JensonWell dinner is ready
20:04.33Davilionyeah,
20:04.33JensonBBL
20:04.33cupisre
20:04.35DavilionI built a car today
20:04.45Jenson:)
20:04.54JensonActually I'll log off. Coz I dont wanna chat in Windows
20:04.56JensonSee ya
20:06.19dpashah bugger
20:08.08piehello again :-)
20:08.48pieDavillion: what size?
20:09.15Davilionpie: full size
20:09.22Daviliongot most of the chassis tack welded todya
20:10.00pieCool
20:15.28piewhat sort of car is it going to be?
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20:37.04stephenhey other Jenson
20:37.13Davilionwb
20:37.14Jensonhey stephen again
20:37.17Jensonty Davilion
20:37.21stephenor is it first Jenson, hmm...
20:37.29Jensonlol I think its first
20:39.43JensonDamn sound is distorted in linux...or maybe the connections are lose
20:42.39skuggi get that sometimes...
20:43.09skuggsound is distorted -- i just start/stop xmms (or mplayer, or whatever is playing) and it's usually fine again.
20:43.23skugg(pause that is, not start/stop)
20:43.48skugganyone else getting few mails today/this weekend?
20:43.54JensonI didnt get ,any today
20:43.56skuggall my mailinglists are slow as hell...
20:44.00Jensons/'any/many
20:44.37skuggi've only had a handfull or something. I usually get a lot more.
20:44.43skuggI don't even get spam :P
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20:45.02JensonWell it's still distorted. I think its coz I always have to use effects in Win to get around the crap bitrate
20:45.04Jensonhey dankolb
20:45.10stephenevening dan
20:45.19skuggapart from one with the subject "Hot Moms in the Nude!"
20:45.20skugg:)
20:45.24dankolbHey
20:45.26dankolbAfternoon all
20:45.31skugghey dan
20:47.14pielo all
20:47.18Jensonheya Will
20:47.24piewas momentarily distracted by the register
20:47.26pie.co.uk
20:47.30dankolb:)
20:47.43skuggaren't we all
20:48.06Leedsthings do seem a bit slow mailwise...
20:48.30pieyes, I thought I would liven things up a bit with some dumb hardware questions
20:48.35JensonHiya Leeds...I worked out how to get the sound to work
20:48.36pie'lo cohen
20:48.37skuggdankolb, the whole of last week?
20:48.45dankolbSomething like that
20:49.05Jensondankolb: I had over a 1000, but luckily in Linux I don't have to delete mail in batches of about 25 to stop it crashing
20:49.07Leedshey pie
20:49.08skuggdankolb, may I suggest the C-d, mutt's 'read email more quickly' feature? :)
20:49.11dankolbHehe :)
20:49.20pieI am warm because I am germinating chilli seeds on the radiator
20:49.27dankolbNice chilli?
20:49.28skugg:)
20:49.34pieHmmm?
20:49.35Leedsskugg: I read that as Cod with the o missing, like some religious Jews write God so as not to write 'the name of God'
20:49.48pieI have sowed some of these
20:49.51piethose
20:50.03pieand some 'devil's chilli'
20:50.10pieand some other chi.lli
20:50.10skuggLeeds, it was meant as Control-d, mutt-ism for "delete thread" :D
20:50.11JensonDan baby, were'nt we meant to be playing DOOM?
20:50.19dankolbErr....
20:50.21pieand some habanero peppers.  Those are really hot
20:50.30dankolbProbably :)
20:50.32pieBedrDOOM?
20:50.44stephen:P
20:50.50Jenson:P
20:50.53dankolbBut then I had food, and now came online
20:51.03dankolbWe could play if you want to, though
20:51.08JensonCool
20:51.26JensonDon't expect me to correctly dial out through DOSDOOM though
20:51.38JensonAnd I cant remember how to use chatstrings lol
20:51.39skugg`he who must not be named' -- sounds like the bad guy from Harry Potter to me :P
20:51.40dankolbBwah. This means I have to wander up to the loft, doesn't it?
20:51.48Jensonskugg: Voldemort
20:51.55Jensondankolb: Well, we dont have to
20:51.58dankolbJenson: Must not be named :)
20:52.19Jensondankolb: Is it Doom2 you wanna play?
20:52.21dankolbJenson: If you want to play, that's fine :)
20:52.23dankolbYeah
20:52.37dankolbAh. Mother's just got off the phone :)
20:52.41skuggJenson, i know the name... i'm just referring to Leed's saying some religious people not wanting to spell out `God'.
20:52.55Jensonskugg: I know :)
20:52.59dankolbWhat's the matter, babe?
20:53.13pieI think a pain in her arm...
20:53.18dankolbYeah, but why?
20:53.20Jensondankolb: Nothing, pretty normal occurence for one part of one arm to hurt
20:53.28skugg`mini pain'? is there such a thing? all my pains are major :P
20:53.35Jensonlol skugg
20:54.01Jensondankolb: I'm quite capable beliece me, pain or no pain
20:54.02pieYou could handicap yourself by only using the pistol
20:54.13piethat would even it up a fair amount...
20:54.19pieor the chainsaw.
20:54.27dankolbHehe
20:54.38Jensonor the BFG 9000
20:54.39JensonEVIL
20:54.52Leedsskugg: still got exams?
20:55.10skuggLeeds, no. trying NOT to get RSI ;)
20:55.21Jensonskugg: I think I already have it
20:55.30skuggi don't know what I do wrong, my fingers and hands just hurt.
20:55.42skuggeven with this happy-hacking keyboard (altohugh it is better)
20:55.53pieI have a mounepad with a gel thing and nice wide laptop resty bits, I have never got RSI, pads and rests are great
20:55.55dankolbHey Huhn
20:56.00stephenskugg: are they any better?
20:56.02piegood game?
20:56.09Huhnre
20:56.12Jensonwb Huhn
20:56.20Huhnpie: fantastic, my team won 5:2
20:56.23Huhnty Jenson
20:56.24skuggstephen, for the retailer at least. they're bloody expensive :P
20:56.25dankolbWell done
20:56.26pieyou play or watch?
20:56.32Huhnpie: both
20:56.32skuggstephen, i'm only borrowing this one though.
20:56.39stephenskugg: I'll take that as a no then :)
20:56.49pieOooh, I used to play for a rollerhockey team
20:56.58piecheaper than ice
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20:57.22Huhnpie: rollerhockey? like in inline skates?
20:57.27pieYep
20:57.27skuggstephen, no, it is _much_ nicer than my old keyboard. but we're comparing apples and pears there really, it was a £6 job...
20:57.38dankolbre resuDaed_ssh
20:57.42resuDaed_sshty
20:57.54Jensonhey resuDaed_ssh
20:57.58stephenskugg: ah, that might have something to do with it
20:58.09Jensondankolb: Are we playing DooM or not?
20:58.10pieI scored a goal once.  I was never really that great
20:58.17resuDaed_sshwhats the most relaible/fast method for scanning a hdd for bad blocks regardless of partitioning and/or filesystems?
20:58.38Huhnpie: nevermind, I'm still waiting for my first goal :) never scored, but I won't give up :)
20:58.40stephentbh, I've been looking at a screen for *far* too long, better go, c y'all
20:58.46pieresuDaed_ssh: fixed magnet
20:58.48dankolbbye stephen
20:58.50Jensoncya stephen
20:58.50pie;-)
20:58.55resuDaed_sshlol
20:59.09pie;-) *detecting*
20:59.12pieI see
20:59.14resuDaed_sshI want to check it before sending it off to maxtor
20:59.27dankolbbadblocks /dev/hda
20:59.35resuDaed_sshty dankolb
20:59.43dankolbYou might want the destructive flags
20:59.45pieHuhn: I last played a couple of years ago, I used to work in a skate park (helped build it) back in manchester
20:59.57resuDaed_sshdankolb : destructive?
21:00.01skuggpie, better than my footie-career then. 10+ years off and on, with only backwards goal to show for... :)
21:00.01dankolbYeah.
21:00.03dankolbWrite tests
21:00.05dankolbDestroys data
21:00.12Huhnpie: you're from Manchester? does Manchester have an ice hockey team?
21:00.20pieManchester Storm
21:00.21resuDaed_sshah, well AFAIK data on the is fscked anyway
21:00.42pieUse to play at the Nynex arena, not sure what it is called now
21:00.47Huhnnever heard of them.. :)
21:00.55piefairly impressive arena I think
21:01.01resuDaed_sshHuhn : do you play ice hockey?
21:01.22dpashHuhn: heard of the MK kings?
21:01.37Huhndpash: remember, I'm German, I know the German teams... :)
21:01.43HuhnresuDaed_ssh: aye
21:02.03resuDaed_sshwhich team (OOI)?
21:02.08resuDaed_ssh(if a team)
21:02.26JensonHuhn: Look on the ircphoto page and tell dpash he's cute...because he doesnt believe me and Beth
21:02.44dankolbWhat's the ircphoto URL?
21:02.48resuDaed_sshJenson : let me give my opinion (requires URI)
21:02.53HuhnresuDaed_ssh: Cologne Rhine Igels
21:02.57Jensonhang on
21:03.01Huhnwhere's the photos?
21:03.08resuDaed_sshtaking into account I have never in my life found a guy cute
21:03.13Jensonhttp://gllug.linux.co.uk/ircphoto.html
21:03.20resuDaed_sshHuhn : never heard of them ;-)
21:03.22JensonI've found many cute guys
21:03.24dpashhi Jenson
21:03.46HuhnresuDaed_ssh: no wonder, it's a hobby team :)
21:03.47dpashHuhn: I just wonders if my local team were well known
21:04.05JensonBRB
21:06.55Huhnhey, those pics are nice
21:07.09dpashHuhn: except mine, right
21:07.41Huhndpash: that's called fishing for compliments :)
21:07.51dpashHuhn: no, fishing for insults
21:08.12resuDaed_sshdpash : sorry to disappoint you, but you're not relly my type
21:08.20dpashresuDaed_ssh: thank god for that
21:08.22Huhndpash: forget it, I won't insult you, you know I like you and I think you're good looking, nuff said
21:08.24LeedsHuhn: how did you persuade Tarragon to change your pic? :-)
21:08.35JensonBack
21:08.38dpashLeeds: send him a new one
21:08.52HuhnLeeds: exactly, told him I didn't like my pic
21:09.00dankolbwb
21:09.03Leedsdpash: I don't care about mine - I just liked the old one of Huhn
21:09.04resuDaed_sshI want to know why my ugly mug hasn't found its way on there, am I not regular eough in irc?
21:09.11dpashHuhn: dammit, you were meant to prove me right and Jenson et al wrong
21:09.12HuhnLeeds: no, it was crap
21:09.17JensonresuDaed_ssh:  you need to send him a pic
21:09.23Huhndpash: :)
21:09.28dankolbJenson: There are pics of him around
21:10.27resuDaed_sshthere seem to be pics of me all over the place ... none of them look lie me, but still many
21:10.35dankolb:)
21:10.47Jensondankolb: I meant to suggest the one where we can't quite work out what he's doing where he's got his back to us
21:10.58dankolbHeh
21:11.22resuDaed_sshfor all those wondering, that pic just meantioned is http://stolen.servehttp.com/i/034_7.jpg
21:11.23skuggokay, bye now. I'm going to rest my hands and try read some instead I think. or slouch in front of the tv.
21:11.27dankolbBAH
21:11.29skugghaven't done that in ages.
21:11.38resuDaed_sshlaters skugg
21:11.44Jensoncya skugg
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21:13.01highburywe thought you left out of embarrasment Dan
21:13.07Jensonwb dankolb
21:13.11dpashrelieving oneself?
21:13.19JensonresuDaed_ssh: Did anyone get any of you last Saturday?
21:13.33dankolbibot insult saberhagen.freenode.net
21:13.34Jensonlol highbury
21:13.39dankolb:)
21:13.41dankolbHi marko85_uk
21:13.42dpashJenson: why phot of Dan?
21:13.43dankolbhighbury: I'm never embarrassed :)
21:13.45dankolbWell, I was embarrassed about my ping times
21:13.55dpashwhich photo
21:14.04dankolbWhat photo of me?
21:14.15dpashdankolb: I can assure you, you have better ping times than I do
21:14.18marko85_ukhey everyone
21:14.18marko85_uk:)
21:14.20dankolb:)
21:14.22resuDaed_sshJenson : I don't think so
21:14.27Jensonon the ircphotos page baby
21:14.28highburyhmm, I'm getting poor ping times to my laptop, cos of broken dongle
21:14.44dankolbWhat about it?
21:14.51dankolbIt's one I took of myself
21:15.11JensonWell I like it
21:15.27dankolb:)
21:15.34dpashdankolb: what is/was yur ping time?
21:15.44dankolbIt went > 30s
21:16.00dpashPING 213.1.119.102 (213.1.119.102): 56 data bytes
21:16.01dpash64 bytes from 213.1.119.102: icmp_seq=0 ttl=244 time=670.4 ms
21:16.01dpash64 bytes from 213.1.119.102: icmp_seq=1 ttl=244 time=667.4 ms
21:16.01dpash64 bytes from 213.1.119.102: icmp_seq=2 ttl=244 time=694.2 ms
21:16.07resuDaed_sshscary, mine occaisionally goes up to 15, but never sen it go > 20
21:16.10dankolbIt's okay ATM
21:16.20dankolbSuddenly it just seems to lose connectivity to saberhagen, though
21:16.29dankolbOther IRC servers I'm on are okay
21:17.00dpashI have had 50 regularly
21:17.02Leedsround-trip min/avg/max = 16.0/102.7/347.2 ms
21:17.02Leeds<PROTECTED>
21:17.13resuDaed_sshPinging 213.1.119.102 with 32 bytes of data:
21:17.13resuDaed_sshRequest timed out.
21:17.13dpashLeeds: irc only on line
21:17.13resuDaed_sshRequest timed out.
21:17.26dpashresuDaed_ssh: interesting
21:17.30resuDaed_ssh(yes I am using windows (2k), hence the _ssh)
21:17.34JensonGotta go
21:17.35dankolbYeah.
21:17.35JensonBBL
21:17.40dpashresuDaed_ssh: something is filtering out your pings?
21:17.44dankolbWin2K automatically puts _ssh after all IRC names :)
21:17.51dpashdankolb: yeah
21:17.58dpashdankolb: have you not used w2k?
21:18.01dankolbI have
21:18.06dankolbI use it quite often, even
21:18.19resuDaed_sshdankolb : or at least I do whenever I log in on anything remotly M$ based
21:18.23dankolb:)
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21:18.45marko85_ukhey everyone
21:18.47resuDaed_sshwb marko85_uk
21:18.52marko85_ukthanks
21:19.01marko85_ukmy internet is being funney at the moment
21:19.10resuDaed_sshdankolb : you playing Jenson?
21:19.11marko85_ukibot insult marko85_uk
21:19.16dankolbresuDaed_ssh: Yeah
21:19.22dankolbAnd if I lose, I'll never live it down :)
21:19.35resuDaed_sshmind if I butt in, or is it a personal 1 on 1 thing
21:19.43dankolbModem to modem.
21:19.47resuDaed_sshah
21:19.50dankolbSo you can't butt in today, sorry
21:20.02dpashresuDaed_ssh: atlanik?
21:20.03dankolbIf we play network somewhere, then sure :)
21:20.09resuDaed_sshcan you not use TCP over internet?
21:20.11dankolbanyway, I'm going to go silent now
21:20.14dankolbNot with DOS Doom
21:20.25dpashI want to play monoply goddammit
21:20.29dankolbMonopoly! :)
21:20.44dpashdankolb: you need kde3.1
21:20.47dpashwith kdegames
21:20.57dankolbAnyway, I'm going silent now
21:21.00dankolbByee
21:21.03resuDaed_sshbye
21:21.36resuDaed_sshis monopoly shippped with kde 3.1 ?
21:21.45dpashresuDaed_ssh: yeah
21:21.53dpashatlantik game
21:21.58resuDaed_sshgive me a minute to apt-get and I'll give you a agame
21:22.09dpashcool
21:22.20marko85_ukguys
21:22.24marko85_ukhow do i restart x?
21:22.35dpashctrl-alt-bksp
21:22.40resuDaed_sshctrl+alt+backspace
21:22.58marko85_ukand how to i just turn the x off and get back to therminal mode?
21:23.23dpashctrl-alt-f1
21:23.42resuDaed_sshif ctrl+alt+backspace actually restarts X, then ctrl + alt + F1
21:23.54marko85_ukthanks guys
21:25.12resuDaed_ssh50 packages upgraded, 32 newly installed, 25 to remove and 295  not upgraded.
21:25.12resuDaed_sshNeed to get 51.7MB/51.7MB of archives. After unpacking 17.6MB will be used.
21:25.23resuDaed_sshI think that may be kde3 :-)
21:25.30dpashlol
21:25.45resuDaed_sshcould be 10 minutes or so
21:25.59resuDaed_ssh60.7kB/s 13m43s
21:26.15marko85_ukresudaed are u on broadband?
21:26.28dpashmarko85_uk: at that speed, most likely
21:26.30resuDaed_sshmarko85_uk : I tweaked my 56k modem a bit
21:26.41marko85_ukhow did u do that omg that is amazing
21:26.41marko85_ukhehe
21:26.42marko85_uk:)
21:27.10resuDaed_sshactually, my modem isfor dialing in
21:27.41resuDaed_sshif the b*****ds @ telewest would let me have more p addresses, I'd run a decent isp
21:27.51resuDaed_sshs/p/ip
21:28.28resuDaed_sshhave set apt-get to use mirror.ac.uk, now getting some decent download speeds
21:29.21marko85_ukdf -h?
21:29.37resuDaed_sshhow much space I have left on disk (-h in human readble form)
21:30.09resuDaed_ssh<PROTECTED>
21:30.09resuDaed_ssh<PROTECTED>
21:30.09resuDaed_ssh<PROTECTED>
21:30.09resuDaed_ssh<PROTECTED>
21:30.31resuDaed_ssh(that's not healthy)
21:31.13resuDaed_sshibot seen orangeskies
21:31.15orangeskies <123@ppp-225-56-121.friaco.access.uk.tiscali.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 2d 14m 45s ago, saying: 'bye ppl lol'.
21:31.18marko85_ukdoes that mean u have three hds or u have one devided in three parts
21:31.33marko85_uki need someone to get me in #redhat
21:31.33resuDaed_sshthats 1 hdd, (actually in 4 partitions)
21:31.42marko85_ukcoz my address is baned
21:31.53resuDaed_sshmarko85_uk : use debain!!!
21:31.59dpashmarko85_uk: why are you banned?
21:32.04marko85_uki am not
21:32.07marko85_uki think my isp is
21:32.12dpashwhich is?
21:32.20marko85_ukonetel
21:32.27resuDaed_sshwouldn't surprise me
21:32.27marko85_uktype /dns marko85_uk
21:32.46marko85_ukwhy?
21:32.53resuDaed_sshlookup failed
21:33.22marko85_uku use blueyonder
21:33.22marko85_uk:)
21:33.31resuDaed_sshI used to work for onetel ... their netowrk is crap
21:33.39marko85_uki know
21:33.45marko85_ukdial up sometimes is 26.000
21:33.46marko85_uklol
21:34.07marko85_ukand once i got 195 messages in my inbox saying i shouldnt connect from different telephone numbers
21:34.11marko85_ukwhat is it run on?
21:34.16resuDaed_sshI can lend you an ssh account for a few hours
21:34.42marko85_ukssh account means pants to me i know ssh is something like telnet
21:34.42marko85_uk:)
21:34.50resuDaed_sshsecure though
21:34.57marko85_uki know
21:35.03resuDaed_sshI'd never let you telnet in to my box (or anyone else for that matter)
21:35.16marko85_ukwhy i am good boy hehe
21:35.16marko85_uk:)
21:35.45resuDaed_sshwhat os you using?
21:35.48dpashresuDaed_ssh: you got kde3.1 installed yet?
21:35.56resuDaed_sshdpash : 5 mins
21:36.18marko85_uki am using win98 and i have red hat 8.0 installed as well but i cant use it coz i havent configured my modem to dial
21:36.38resuDaed_sshok, http://stolen.servehttp.com/putty.exe is an ssh client for windows
21:36.47Leedsdo you play atlantik with monopd?
21:37.02dpashLeeds: I have set up a local monopd
21:37.30dpashLeeds: why?
21:37.32Leedsonly because there seems to be a pure-GTK monopd client which I could use...
21:37.36marko85_ukonce i download it run it and u tell me what to do thanks mate
21:37.36marko85_uk:)
21:37.45dpashLeeds: sounds like a plan
21:37.45Leedsgtkatlantic
21:37.47dpashtry it
21:38.03Leedsapparently needs to run against CVS monopd :-(
21:38.32dpashI have 0.7.0
21:39.00Leedsthe newest gtkatlantic is newer than 0.7.0
21:39.27Leedswe'll see...
21:39.41dpashLeeds: try connecting to 212.56.237.89:1234
21:41.38LeedsI'm connected
21:41.54dpashso you are
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21:43.24marko85_uk5hey everyone
21:43.26marko85_uk5:)
21:43.39dpashresuDaed_ssh: how are you?
21:43.52resuDaed_sshgetting there, reading databases and the like
21:44.09dpashresuDaed_ssh: okay
21:44.58marko85_ukmarko85_uk5 is a hacker
21:44.59marko85_uk:)
21:45.08dpashLeeds: what is the website for the gtk version?
21:45.53dpashfound it
21:46.00Leedsgtkatlantic.sf.net
21:46.08Leedsthere's a gnome one as well, apparently
21:46.42dpashshould I compile a cvs version while we wait?
21:47.19Leedsof monopd?
21:47.28Leedswhy not...
21:48.04Leedsthe other client seems to be a little dead - no activity since 10/01
21:51.02LeedsresuDaed_ssh: how's it going?
21:52.12Leedsmmm... salad
21:54.03Huhnmmm... beer
21:57.03dpashresuDaed_ssh: ping
21:58.13dpashLeeds: monopd cvs doesn;t build
21:58.32Leedsoh well
21:58.32dpashLeeds: shall we start in a minute?
21:58.37Leedssure
21:58.45dpashping resuDaed_ssh
21:58.53LeedsI'm just trying to work out why my DVD player seems broken
21:59.33Leedsah!
21:59.37Leedsbloody ide-scsi :-)
21:59.41dpashnot plugged in?
21:59.46dpashah drive
21:59.53dpashresuDaed_ssh: ping
22:00.08dpashokay I say we start now
22:00.40dpashLeeds: start?
22:00.42dpashor wait?
22:01.18LeedsI'm happy to go
22:01.42dpashyou start
22:01.45Leedshe said it could be 10 minutes... 30 minutes ago
22:05.42*** join/#gllug cupis (~paul@modem-3605.alligator.dialup.pol.co.uk)
22:06.21Huhnhi Paul
22:06.40cupishi Huhn
22:16.26DavilionresuDaed www.irvined.co.uk/stuff.list
22:16.57Davilionhi dankolb
22:18.08Huhnwb Davilion
22:18.10Huhnarghs
22:18.16*** join/#gllug Jenson (1000@dial81-131-6-207.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
22:18.18Huhntab-completion, try again
22:18.24Huhnwb Jenson and dankolb :)
22:18.38dankolbwb Jenson
22:18.46dankolbToo late :-P
22:19.05JensonYou missed me running around the map in circles whilst on the phone though
22:19.23dankolbWell, that's just silly if you talk on the phone, in that case
22:19.48Davilionusing your mobile phone whilst playing doom is bad for your frag rating
22:19.54dankolb29:3
22:19.58dankolbAnd that was without the phone
22:19.59Jensonlol
22:20.02Jensonthat was funny
22:20.04dankolb(29 to me)
22:20.14JensonI'm still convinced I had my controls setup wrong
22:20.18dankolbYeah, yeah.
22:20.21Jensonlol
22:20.29dankolbBTW, did I say I HATE that T-Mobile woman voice?
22:20.34dankolbHeh :)
22:26.39resuDaedJenson : I have the doom for Win95 sharwearw if you want a game
22:27.14resuDaedand dankolb
22:27.19dankolb:)
22:27.27dankolbI'm using DOS Doom
22:27.36dankolbDoom2, even
22:27.41resuDaedits a 5 MB download
22:28.34dankolbNot too bad, then
22:30.36dankolbDoes it work over TCP/IP?
22:31.23JensonI have Shareware DOSDoom, and Final Doom, Doom 2 and Ultimate Doom for Win95/DOS and Master Doom for DOS....but not shareware WinDoom
22:31.47resuDaedI have shareware doom1/2/3/4 all win95 (and TCP)
22:32.13resuDaedI shall put online ... one sec
22:32.43dankolbresuDaed: I've left my Win95 machine now, so can't get it ATM
22:33.08JensonAnd I cant be arsed to d/l
22:33.43dankolbresuDaed: But if you want a game, say, Tuesday, let me know
22:34.11JensonresuDaed: I'm not playing against you, too embarrassing.
22:34.16dankolb:)
22:34.34resuDaedI havn't played doom in about 6 years
22:34.41dankolb<g>
22:34.56resuDaedok, by tuesday, the URI should be http://resudaed.com/doom/
22:35.09dankolbI won't remember :)
22:35.09JensonresuDaed: I havent played it in a month and I'm shit lol
22:35.23dankolbNot shit. Just not as good as me.
22:35.24resuDaedJenson : you think you can remember that url?
22:35.38JensonI'kll bookmark it
22:35.42resuDaed(not working yet, still waiting to resolve)
22:35.54dankolbAh
22:35.58JensonWell, I'll remember it then
22:36.19resuDaeddankolb : am still waiting for it to appear on WHOIS
22:36.33dankolbAhh
22:36.40resuDaeddns is already set up
22:36.52resuDaedtomorrow morning I am chaning my networks hostnames/domains
22:36.58dankolbwhois resudaed.com works for me
22:37.18resuDaedme too actually
22:37.44dankolb:)
22:37.46resuDaedbut still cannot ping
22:37.51resuDaedor host
22:38.09dankolbSo you're a commercial enterprise, then?
22:38.14resuDaedHost resudaed.com not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
22:38.27dankolbBwah
22:38.28resuDaeddankolb : yes (just don't pay tax)
22:38.31dankolb:-)
22:38.56resuDaeddankolb : so if whois is updated, then I am just waiting for my dns to update?
22:39.00dankolbYeah
22:39.15resuDaedcan you ping resudaed.com?
22:39.26dankolbNot if the host doesn't resolve
22:39.36Jensonnah
22:39.36resuDaedok, can you resolve the host?
22:39.39dankolbNo
22:39.44resuDaedgrrr
22:39.50dankolbJust like you've found :)
22:40.14JensonYpu guys are so more geek than me
22:40.37dankolbJenson: Geek is about a mindset.
22:40.43dankolbKnowledge is accumulated.
22:41.03dankolbYou don't get it all a priori
22:41.24resuDaedthe ip address is exactly the same as stolen.servehttp.com
22:41.35dankolbCool
22:41.36resuDaed(which works ... is just too long for my liking)
22:42.15resuDaedam trying to get hold of po.ng (nigeria), but cannot find a decent registrant
22:42.26dankolbwww.nic.ng ?
22:42.46resuDaednope
22:42.57resuDaedI was too
22:43.22resuDaedbut I liked po.ng, just cannot get it for some reason
22:43.28dankolbAhh.
22:43.37dankolbDavilion: Can I get an @twonkle.com email address?
22:43.41Davilionof course
22:43.42dankolbPlease?
22:43.44dankolbWoohoo! :)
22:43.59resuDaedDavilion : can I ... please???
22:44.04Daviliontwonkle, allan, david, irvined, tastic, are all taken
22:44.07Daviliontake your pick.
22:44.10DavilionresuDaed: sure
22:44.19dankolbdankolb@twonkle.com
22:44.25dankolbOr dan@twonkle.com
22:44.29Davilionits going to be a kinda community website when i develop it into one and email aliases were on the vcards
22:44.31resuDaedtom@
22:44.33dankolbCool :)
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22:44.48dankolbDo you set up forwarding on the mail server, in that case?
22:44.58KMDhello good people.
22:45.08resuDaedKMD : evening
22:45.09dankolbhi KMD
22:45.17Huhnhi KMD
22:45.32KMDFor crying out loud..... it's Sunday nite.  
22:45.38dankolbAnd?
22:45.45resuDaedhttp://www.google.com/search?q=resudaed&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=0
22:45.53Daviliondankolb: atm, i have /etc/exim/twonkle.com.aliases
22:45.59KMDYeah yeah.... I know...
22:46.02dankolbCool
22:46.02Huhnwhat's so bad about Sunday night?
22:46.07Davilionand it all gets looked up in there then forwarded on somewhere useful
22:46.15dankolbCould you alias them to dankolb@ox.compsoc.net, please?
22:46.21resuDaedHuhn : monday morning follows it
22:46.21Davilionsure
22:46.30DavilionresuDaed: where do you want yours pointed to?
22:46.35dankolbThanks :)
22:46.35HuhnresuDaed: fair enough
22:46.44KMDSo I was told.  hehehe.  
22:46.48resuDaedDavilion : tom@resudaed.com
22:47.07KMDhey dpash !!
22:47.57Daviliondan/res: done :)
22:48.00dankolbwoohoo! :)
22:48.01dankolbThanks
22:48.06resuDaedthanks Davilion
22:48.28dankolbYay! :)
22:48.31dankolbCan we hold you to that?
22:48.36dankolbAnd remind you that you have a job...
22:48.47Jensonlol
22:48.53Huhnarghs, owes
22:49.01Davilioni was thinking of a twonkle test, and the plan is to have a csv file with the questions in it, something like ID, TE
22:49.08dankolbHuhn: Yeah, I do. Sorry I couldn't make it to the pub that day
22:49.25DavilionID, Question, YesPoints, NoPoints.
22:49.27resuDaedok, rephrased to if I get *the* job (one applied for) then I buy you all a drink, and Jenson a vodka & redbull ;)
22:49.30Huhndankolb: I'll be back :)
22:49.42dankolbCool :)
22:49.50resuDaeddankolb : do you have a nameserver?
22:50.01dankolbresuDaed: I do.
22:50.07Davilionand a script which pulls out a random 20 questions and creates a form whihc spits out the question with a yes or no field set to the ID of the question
22:50.11dankolb:)
22:50.21Davilionwhen you submiut it looks up and grabs the scoring from the csv file.
22:50.23dankolbresuDaed: It's been logged, so you can't back out of it
22:50.26Davilionthen gives you a Twonkle Rating.
22:50.40dankolbGood idea.
22:50.41resuDaeddankolb : np
22:50.48resuDaeddankolb : can I use it please?
22:50.52dankolbSure
22:50.59resuDaedyou want to list me then?
22:51.34resuDaedas in for my dns records, I would rather not rely on just no-ips servers
22:51.38dankolbOkay
22:52.46resuDaedok, resudaed.com & this ip if possible
22:52.55dankolbSo I now need to work out how to do backup DNS, then, don't I?
22:53.19resuDaedI don't know :-) I know very little about dns
22:53.42resuDaedall I know is I have 3 nameservers, and the are all owned by the same company
22:53.53dankolbHm
22:54.16dankolbI take it you have easy access to modify entries there?
22:55.04resuDaedyes, all I need is an ip, and I'll redirect ns0.resudead.com to it so my whois record looks damn good
22:55.08dankolbJenson: Well done :)
22:55.19dankolbHeh :)
22:55.27resuDaedJenson : that actually takes some doing?
22:55.47JensonHe thinks I dont wanna meet him, I'm trying to explain that I don't want to meet him 1 on 1...I wanna bring my mate
22:56.12JensonresuDaed: He's cool, just a little mental
22:56.16dankolbAh well. Let him think what he wants to think
22:56.36resuDaeddankolb : your nameserver ip?
22:56.38Jensondankolb: Easy for you to say, he's my mate and I care about him.
22:56.54dankolbresuDaed: Try ns0.eco.li
22:57.21dankolbJenson: Fair enough.
22:57.40dankolbYeah. ns0 works
22:59.16dankolbYou'd need to set me as a nameserver in the zone file for resudaed.com, though
22:59.45resuDaedns0.resudaed.com 64.246.28.105
22:59.54dankolbEh?
23:00.42resuDaedhost ns0.eco.li ; host nso.resudaed.com
23:01.23resuDaeddon't worry, I know what I am doing
23:01.40resuDaedjust got to wait for whis to update itself now
23:01.59dankolbYeah, but I'll need to know if I should set myself as a primary or backup name server
23:02.58resuDaedbackup
23:03.04dankolbOkay.
23:03.38resuDaedmy primary nameserver(s) are ns[123].no-ip.com
23:04.57resuDaedI would like to be running my own nameserver, but theres no point unless I can get hold of a few more ips
23:05.11dankolbThere could be point
23:05.27resuDaedsuch as?
23:05.44resuDaed(I already have 2 nameservers in the states, and now 2 in this country)
23:05.44dankolbErmm...
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23:05.51dankolbYou have control over them?
23:05.59resuDaedlimited control
23:06.07dankolbExactly.
23:06.14resuDaedwhat kind of control are you talking about?
23:06.16dankolbSo you'd have full control if you had your own nameserver
23:06.32dankolbvi /etc/named/resudaed.com.hosts
23:06.56resuDaedyes, but then if for some reason, my ip changed, then* all* my nameservers would go out of sync
23:07.12dankolbSo make sure that your IP address doesn't change
23:07.18dankolbGet a connection with a static IP
23:07.34resuDaedI can't afford, but I've had this ip for 6 months now
23:07.43dankolbI have a static IP
23:07.46dankolb£25/month
23:08.13resuDaedI don't have an /etc/named/*
23:08.21dankolbOr /var/named
23:08.28dankolbDepends on distro / where they put config files
23:09.07resuDaed<PROTECTED>
23:09.23dankolbYeah, that's the main config file. But the zone files....
23:10.17JensonTime for bed methinks
23:10.20JensonNight guys see ya tomorrow
23:10.23dankolbBye
23:10.58JensonBye dankolb
23:11.37Jensonnight resuDaed
23:11.44*** part/#gllug Jenson (1000@dial81-131-6-207.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
23:13.37dankolbHmm. Sleep.
23:14.15dankolbresuDaed: You might have to remind me tomorrow to play about with Bind and getting your backup DNS
23:16.49resuDaedok dankolb ... remind me to remind you
23:16.54dankolb:)
23:32.00piejust finished watching the XFiles
23:32.16dankolbincluding credits?
23:45.59Leedsdpash: you there?
23:45.59dpashargh I segfaulted
23:46.11Leedsyou've got 3 minutes to reconnect
23:46.31dpashI can't
23:46.44Leedsno?
23:46.56LeedsINFO: Connection with player dpash lost. Player has 180s to reconnect until bankrupcy.
23:47.07Leedswhat segfaulted?
23:47.16dpashatlantik
23:47.25dpashI can't seem to reconnect
23:47.30dpashthe game is not there
23:47.33Leedsit's your bloody server! :-)
23:47.57dpashI know
23:48.41dpashLeeds: I think I was pretty much knackered anyway
23:48.50Leedsyeah, but...
23:49.00Leedsgrepper wants a break anyway, and I need to go to bed soon
23:49.06dpashsame here
23:49.13Leedswell, you're out
23:49.15dpashlets call it a day with me loosing
23:49.30dpashfight it out between you as to winner
23:49.31dankolb:)
23:49.50dpashsell everything and morgage all and most money wins
23:52.16LeedsI win! :-P
23:52.27dpashw00t
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23:53.10Leedsdone, closed.
23:53.14OrangeSkieshi all
23:53.19dankolbhi OrangeSkies
23:53.22Leedsevening OrangeSkies
23:53.33OrangeSkieshows it going
23:53.48Leedsnot bad...
23:55.41OrangeSkiesgood good
23:55.47dpashLeeds: known bug: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54480
23:55.53OrangeSkiesanyone seen resuDaed recently?
23:55.56dankolbYes
23:56.05dankolbAbout 30 mins ago
23:56.46OrangeSkiesd'oh
23:56.57OrangeSkiesi'm trying to flog my hub still
23:57.07dankolbFlog it? Try a whip.
23:57.12dankolbNot sure how that'd help, though
23:57.32OrangeSkieshehe
23:58.51dpashLeeds: you finished with monopd?
23:59.36dpashtoo late

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