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00:00.13Leedsyup
00:01.35Huhn<- bed time, nn
00:01.47OrangeSkiesbyes
00:01.48OrangeSkiescya all
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00:02.29pdroi
00:02.47cupiswb pdr
00:02.55cupisgood trip?
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00:07.33Leedsbedtime...
00:08.33dankolboi ppl
00:08.35dankolbnight Leeds
00:11.23pdroi cupis
00:11.26dankolbpissed as nothing?
00:11.33pdrno, pisse as
00:11.34dpashpdr: drunk or annoyed?
00:11.38pdrdrunk
00:11.45cupisoi pdr
00:11.50cupispass the booze over
00:11.54pdrthe 'as' is an australian expression meaing 'very'
00:12.01dankolbAh :)
00:12.15dankolbNice.
00:12.21dankolbSo you got back, and got onto IRC?
00:12.28dankolbSad, very very sad...
00:12.36dpashdankolb: any you wouldn;t do the same thing?
00:12.40pdrdrinking all day with stu and a deb dev in paris, then drinking with som brasilian girls on the train...
00:12.48dankolbdpash: Depends how late it is
00:12.54dankolbAt this time, no, I'd go to bed
00:12.59dpashdankolb: 10 past midnight
00:13.01pdryes, i guess it is sad, but i had to sign a key
00:13.13dpashpdr: cos tomorrow couldn;t wait
00:13.19dankolbpdr: Even sadder...Debian...
00:13.20cupispdr: it had to be signed right now, and whilst you are pissed?
00:14.12dankolbCareful - Jenson might get jealous
00:14.24pdrcupis: i still followed procedure
00:14.44cupispdr: I was thinking more about impaired judgement, actually :)
00:14.47dpashpdr: are you able to tell the order of the fingerprint?
00:14.49pdrdankolb: don't' understand jealousy
00:15.03pdrdpah: yes
00:15.18pdrdpash: one for one judement fine
00:15.19cupispdr: go to sleep
00:15.19dankolb:)
00:15.35cupisdpash: go to sleep
00:15.39dpashnight all
00:15.48dankolbUhhuh
00:15.50dankolbnight dpash
00:16.12pdrnight al
00:16.20pdrs/al/all
00:16.36cupisnight pdr
00:17.42dankolbnight pdr
00:21.00pdrdpash: seriously though, a signature, one for one is signable, even in my state... :-)
00:22.41dpashpdr: bugger off to bed
00:24.21dpashI'll do that soon
00:27.41murblewithout reboot, and without a debian mirror.
00:34.18dankolb'night all
00:34.51eye69Evening
00:35.06murblehi eye69
00:35.12eye69Hiya murb
00:35.17eye69Sup?
00:38.02murbleI should be a sleep, but i'm building a machien to give away.
00:38.27eye69Aha.
00:38.36eye69Giving away machines? Have you gone mad?
00:39.52murbleWell, it is a 486 with 64mb of ram, an really i want to see if the cdwriter in it works, and redhat somthing old had a very old version of cdrecord
00:40.24murbleIt is an intersting challenge to upgrade it to woody without getting out of bed.
00:41.00murbleBut /usr is taking a long time to copy from my laptop to the new machine, i'm hoping that 2.4 will be nicer since the machine does have lots of ram.
00:41.15murbleoh and in the last few weeks i've given away quite a lot of machines.
00:42.16eye69Okie.
00:47.39murbleI just wish the boring copying things would happen quicker, so i can see if it is going to work.
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04:11.56JensonYou're not telling me everyone is asleep, what a silly thing to be doing at 4am
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05:09.28JensonAh well, best go lay down see if I can get some sleep. Good morning anyway guys.
07:40.17TarragonMorning
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09:13.13dank_workMorning
09:13.48dpashmoin
09:32.26TarragonMoin
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09:39.02dank_work'lo
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10:03.48Clyphoxhey hey
10:03.54dank_workhey
10:04.11ClyphoxHowzit..
10:04.34dank_worknot bad, thanks
10:04.35dank_workyou?
10:04.37ClyphoxYou up for a drink this Saturday?
10:04.45dank_workCan't do this Sat
10:04.50dank_workSorry :(
10:04.54Clyphoxjust tired.. played UrbanTerror all weekend
10:04.56dank_workMaybe Sun, though
10:04.58ClyphoxSun?
10:05.01dank_workSunday
10:05.05Clyphoxgood then :)
10:05.50ClyphoxWhats that?
10:06.45dank_workIg Nobels are awards for scientific experiments that should not be repeated
10:07.52ClyphoxSounds like the darwin awards :)
10:08.10dank_workNot quite :)
10:08.18dank_workIt's without people dying
10:09.07ClyphoxBut major explosions ?
10:09.22dank_workMaybe...
10:09.35dank_workif you want to come up to Oxford, though, on Friday...
10:10.15ClyphoxI have about £50 to get three presents for the 22nd with and one Pub drink I'm afraid..
10:10.22dank_workBwah.
10:10.24dank_workOkay, then.
10:10.28ClyphoxBut would love it though hehe
10:12.28dank_workIt should be good
10:12.54ClyphoxWell maybe I could go.. how are you getting there?
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10:14.18dank_workI'm driving
10:14.19Clyphoxhi cup
10:14.22cupmorning
10:14.40ClyphoxI hate mondays but today's going ok..
10:15.06dank_workThat's good :)
10:15.32dank_workSo if you can get to Beaconsfield train station, I can give you a lift
10:15.56dank_workOr Oxford is served quite well from Paddington
10:17.39ClyphoxWell what time would you want me at Beaconsfield? I only get off work at 6..
10:18.08dank_workAhh :(
10:19.12Clyphoxthats a problem... :(
10:19.20dank_workA bit
10:19.24dank_workThe talk starts at 19:45
10:19.40dank_workSo I'd have to leave Beaconsfield at 18:45 latest
10:19.53dank_workCan't you get off work earlier, being a Friday?
10:20.32Clyphoxhehe.. I get paid very little and work long hours 6 days a week. (guesse why I'm leaving..)
10:20.49ClyphoxI can get a few hours off if I need to though :)
10:21.40ClyphoxAny chance I can crash at yours maybe?
10:25.29dank_workErmm...I'm not sure about that, unfortunately :(
10:25.36dank_workMother tends to be difficult :-/
10:25.52dank_workAnd I need to get up early on Saturday morning
10:27.54Clyphoxhehe
10:28.16Clyphoxyou gah.. phone..
10:28.43dank_workI gah?
10:29.03Clyphoxahh.. sry..
10:29.15dank_workI didn't think I gah'ed that much
10:29.24Clyphoxwas typing then the phone tang and GAH overrode everything else...
10:29.30dank_workheh
10:29.31Clyphoxer rang
10:29.45Clyphoxuhm.. you..umm...
10:29.51Clyphox...
10:30.01dank_work:)
10:30.17ClyphoxThis tends to happen...
10:30.55dank_workAye
10:31.48dank_workAhhhh.
10:31.59dank_workSweet liquid. Coca Cola is thy name.
10:34.16Clyphoxhmm..
10:34.36ClyphoxNikki is trying to wheen me off Coke..
10:34.54dank_workDon't let her
10:35.01Clyphoxjust because its expensive and has lots of sugar,,
10:35.09dank_workDoing that to a geek is like cutting off their hands
10:35.12Clyphoxhehe she wont.. my budget might tho
10:35.33dank_workget work to pay for it :)
10:36.17ClyphoxI still can't find work in Aberdeen
10:36.30dank_work:(
10:36.38dank_workWhy're you moving there?
10:36.51ClyphoxI've applied for dozens of jobs.. all crap apart from one where I just *might* get to see some sparc badboy action..
10:37.02dank_workheheh
10:37.11Clyphoxvery asd
10:37.14Clyphoxer sad
10:37.23cup?
10:37.23dank_workwhy?
10:37.29dank_workdecent hardware is good
10:37.36ClyphoxLots of Windoze shit and ASP .net shit.. would rather shoot myself in the foot.. twice..
10:38.04Clyphoxwell in that sparc means I don't have to use windoze.. thats all.. plus RISC is cool..
10:39.24dank_workYeah...
10:39.42dank_workIf you install Cygwin, Windows won't be that bad
10:39.48dank_workYou can even pretend it's not there
10:40.41ClyphoxI have problems with letting such great tools being available to the enemy hehe
10:40.47dank_workHehe
10:40.54Clyphoxno putty will suffice anyhow..
10:41.08Clyphoxbut still..
10:41.20dank_workGAH. Have I said I hate Mozilla?
10:41.25ClyphoxI think I will do anything else but evil computer jobs first..
10:41.27dank_work:)
10:41.35ClyphoxWhy?
10:41.41dank_workFree software is all well and good when it FUCKING WORKS!
10:42.32Clyphoxhehe true..
10:43.04dank_workI mean, how difficult is it to be able to select the Location: box, and TYPE SOMETHING IN?
10:43.26ClyphoxAhh had that bug..
10:43.34Clyphoxhave you used phoenix?
10:43.46Clyphoxmuch more useable imo
10:43.50dank_workSeen it, didn't really like it
10:44.00dank_workThe AA fonts make it less readable
10:45.03ClyphoxAhh.
10:45.13ClyphoxCTRL+(Mouse wheel down)
10:45.39ClyphoxOr tell it to use system fonts and just force it to use your settings..
10:46.00dank_work:)
10:46.05dank_workNo mouse wheel support in FreeBSD
10:46.12Clyphox!?!!
10:46.21Clyphoxwhats the name of that program...
10:46.37Clyphoxthere was one I used before... can't remember the name..
10:46.53dank_workimwheel ?
10:47.01Clyphoxyeah..
10:47.22Clyphoxall it does is convert the movements to pgup/pgdn afaik..
10:47.57ClyphoxBut why doesn't mouse wheel work? its X right?
10:48.05dank_workYeah...
10:48.07dank_workDunno :)
10:48.32ClyphoxWhat does your mouse section look like?
10:49.13Clyphoxtry : Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
10:49.32Clyphoxand make sure its imps/2 I suppose..
10:50.06ClyphoxI've never used freeBSD long enough to care about the wheel.. much prefer net/open myself..
10:53.16dank_workI tried
10:53.25dank_workIMPS/2 doesn't work as a protocol
10:55.17Clyphoxweird..
10:55.42ClyphoxWhat about a weekday pub night btw?
10:57.25ClyphoxAny idea where man keeps its cache?
10:57.47dank_workERm...pass.
10:58.54ClyphoxCan't get a man page for find now cause it is caching a broken one (didnt have groff at the time)
11:00.18Clyphoxits ok.. got it..
11:01.24dank_workAh.
11:01.24dank_work:)
11:01.32dank_workWeekday pub night....possible...
11:01.47Clyphoxthats what the catX directories are for..
11:02.12ClyphoxI like find..
11:02.59dank_workAh
11:03.03dank_workFind is good, yes :)
11:03.16Clyphoxda
11:03.55Clyphoxwow..my box has 137 days uptime.. quite remarkable conscidering its environment..
11:04.13Clyphox(my dad used to regularly unplug the power,,,)
11:04.37Clyphoxout of all my servers only one has been up since install..
11:04.47Clyphoxgoing on 3years now gladly :)
11:05.10ClyphoxFirst thing I do when I have cash is get a ss10 to run Obsd and a UPS :)
11:05.29dank_work:)
11:05.36dank_workdankolb@moloko:~$ uptime
11:05.36dank_work11:06AM  up 70 days,  2:04, 17 users, load averages: 2.57, 2.51, 2.52
11:05.40dank_work(workstation)
11:05.46Clyphoxnice load hehe
11:05.53ClyphoxI had one that had load of 17 !
11:06.00dank_workHeh :)
11:06.06highburyof course running a machine for so long without a reboot, might indicate non-patched vulnerabilities
11:06.15dank_workInternal network...
11:06.18highburymorning:-)
11:06.33ClyphoxOne of the HDD's died and the tar (tape) crons were stuck and there were about 20 running..
11:06.45Clyphoxhigh highbury
11:06.53Clyphoxsorry to hear it..
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11:08.34dank_workhi davilion
11:08.50dank_workyeah, sorry to hear it, highbury  :(
11:09.07Clyphoxre davilion
11:09.29highburyno problem, only my wife really knew him
11:12.18davilionhi dank_work
11:12.21davilionhi Clyphox
11:12.29davilionhows it going?
11:12.59ClyphoxI'm trying to make a little ol bash script that lists new files.. find can do a little bit 'o date checking.. anyone have any ideas? (noone say perl)
11:13.15Clyphoxdavilion, delightfully unevenual :)
11:13.23dank_workFighting with duplex printing
11:13.49Clyphoxbeen there..
11:13.54Clyphoxhere.,. have a cookie..
11:14.02dank_workMmm. Thanks :)
11:14.04davilionyou could back up your locate db and compare it with the new one every dya.
11:14.05dank_workCOOKIE!
11:15.04Clyphoxdavilion, yeah I can make a "find -xtype f" type databse too..
11:15.20Clyphoxbut i am looking to try to make it tell if its been modified too..
11:15.36dank_workmtime ?
11:15.36davilionthats a nice idea actually
11:15.42davilioncan you track who modified it?
11:15.43Clyphoxdank_work, if its use in word make a macro maybe..
11:15.53dank_work:)
11:16.16davilionit would be nice to have that on snowdon so i can have a bit of accountability
11:16.18Clyphoxdavilion, I had a script that used ls -l to extract that kinda info yeah.. but I lost it hehe
11:16.31ClyphoxI used md5sums too..
11:16.46Clyphoxbut I think just a list of new files will do I suppose..
11:17.52dank_work:)
11:19.52Clyphoxcool..
11:19.57highburyfind . -newer timestamp -ls
11:20.26Clyphoxfind has an option -mtime and if you set it too 1 it lists files modified 24H ago..
11:20.52Clyphoxhighbury, how can I workout the timestamp yntax?
11:21.04Clyphox5
11:21.30highburytimestamp is just a file, the -newer causes find to look for files *newer* than the file called timestamp
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11:22.47dank_workhi SpyPigeon
11:22.54dank_workibot insult CUPS and duplex printing
11:22.57Clyphoxgood idea.. so at the end of each cron (for example) I can creat a file with todays timestamp so tomorrow it will list files older than that..
11:22.58SpyPigeonmoin
11:23.00highburyremember -mtime <number> that the number can be positive or negative +n means greater than n days, and -n means less than n days, just n means exactly n days
11:23.55Clyphoxgreat.. thanks..
11:24.07highburyClyphox: create the file slightly renamed at the beginning of the script, then rename it at the end of the script. otherwise, you'll miss the files created during the running fo the script
11:25.02highburyman find will give you all sorts of nice options, for examplle "-type f" since your unlikely to be interested in directories
11:25.15Clyphoxhighbury, none of my customers work at 2am hehe...
11:25.28Clyphox(busy reading it :))
11:26.36ClyphoxIts only samba shares after all..
11:28.16dank_workYeah.
11:28.24dank_workNothing important :)
11:28.28Clyphoxda
11:28.44ClyphoxI need some Zallman coolers.. my systme is driving me nuts
11:28.53dank_workHehe :)
11:29.23ClyphoxIts got like.. 4 fans inside and I can hear it downstairs..
11:29.47dank_workEw. Not so good
11:30.14ClyphoxMy monitor hums too..
11:30.29dank_workOmmmm
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11:33.21Clyphoxhey.. it was free.. plut ot 22"
11:33.32dank_workWell, that's the best price
11:33.49Clyphoxda
11:33.49dank_workMy free 21" is quiet. Just a little bit fuzzy for high-resolution work
11:33.59Clyphoxhehe me too..
11:34.23ClyphoxMine's like a TV.. including crackily  fuzzy statick when you touch it hehe
11:34.30dank_workHehe :)
11:36.22dank_workStick the tuning circuitry in...
11:38.52davilionanybody used lm sensors?
11:39.11dank_workNope
11:39.38dpashdavilion: I've attempted once or twice
11:39.48Clyphoxdavilion, I used it once on my thinkpad.. (aparently I'm lucky I didn't fry it hehe)
11:39.50dpashdavilion: can't say it was particularly sucessful
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11:39.56jensonHey guys
11:39.58dpashClyphox: indeed you were
11:40.01dpashhi jenson
11:40.05jensonheya dpash
11:40.20Clyphoxhi jenson
11:40.42jensonhey Clyphox
11:40.56Clyphoxyou didn't call me babe :((
11:41.07dpashanyone use iptables with user defined tables?
11:43.45davilionlmsensors seems like it could be potentially useful, but it also seems like a bit fat steaming pile of poo.
11:44.09Clyphoxjenson, thanks.. I'm growing up now...
11:45.02dank_workhi jenson
11:45.08jensonhey dan babe
11:45.17dank_work:)
11:46.25dpashdavilion: lmsensors will be more useful once they are in mainline kernel
11:46.45dpashit is too much of a hassle to upgrade them everytime you upgrade to a new kernel
11:47.15jensonDamn I gotta go
11:47.22dank_workAlready?
11:47.23jensonI'll be back at 12:30
11:47.25jensonYeah
11:47.27dank_workHeh
11:47.27jensonkids in here
11:47.29dank_workC'ya babe
11:47.30dank_workSo?
11:47.59jensonthey needthe computers
11:48.01jensonseeya
11:48.16Clyphoxhehe why not?
11:48.17jensondpash: I didnt know they'd be coming in, they dont always
11:48.23ClyphoxI'm at work so I should conscentrate on my work for an hour or so now..
11:48.30jensonhave fun Clyphox
11:48.33ClyphoxI'm gonna go afk for now (but I'm still here just trying to work)
11:48.44Clyphox*always* *8-)
11:49.33dpashwhat does jenson do? is she still at school? or work at a school?
11:49.42dank_workDoesn't do much
11:49.50dank_workHelps out at her mother's primary school
11:49.54davilionit just isnt findinf the chip, i type sensors and it says no sensors found
11:49.58davilionbut apparently the chipset is supoprted
11:50.02dpashunpaid?
11:50.06dank_workyeah
11:50.13dpashbummer
11:50.32dank_workYeah, well.
11:53.33dank_workSchools suffer from lack of funding
11:55.15dpashdank_work: couldn't you give her a job as a sysadmin or something ;)
11:55.44dank_workUnfortunately not.
11:57.13dank_workI don't have any control about hiring
11:57.18dank_workAnd I'm a bit far away
11:57.25dpashwhere are you?
11:57.34dank_workAround High Wycombe (Loudwater)
11:57.40nasratdank_work: job share :)
11:57.44dank_workAnd she's in Suffolk/Essex
11:57.46dpashm40 area?
11:57.48dank_workyeah
11:57.52dank_workJn. 3
11:57.57dpashm40, m25, a12
11:58.05dpashnp
11:58.32dank_work3 hours commute not good. Especially if you can't drive
11:59.56davilionits gonna be one of those weeks i can tell
12:01.40dank_workdpash: I wouldn't quite trust her driving
12:02.11dank_work:)
12:02.54daviliondank_work: i tihnk i would be better off with an asprin and some cotten wool
12:03.01Clyphox|workin`Anyone comming to my party then?
12:03.13davilion[root@snowdon lm_sensors-2.7.0]# sensors -s
12:03.13davilionSegmentation fault
12:03.13davilion[root@snowdon lm_sensors-2.7.0]#
12:03.15dank_workdavilion: Ahh :-/
12:03.16davilionPants.
12:03.27dank_workClyphox: If I'm in the country.
12:03.53Clyphoxdank_work, Still want that drink though.. are you available mid-week?
12:04.03ClyphoxTime is short for me..
12:04.06dank_workCould well be...
12:04.27ClyphoxI'm available the 29th too I suppose..
12:04.39dank_workI'm unlikely to be around then
12:04.51Clyphoxer and=an
12:05.24Clyphoxdavilion, wanna come?
12:05.50ClyphoxI hear that we've only rented the hall for a few hours in the end last night...
12:05.54Clyphoxer heard
12:06.00davilionClyphox: what when were?
12:06.14Clyphoxdavilion, My birthday.. 21st on the 22nd
12:06.33ClyphoxIts ym Dad's 50th too and My twins too (obviously)
12:06.51ClyphoxAnd at the same time a party for my sisters 18th..
12:06.56Clyphoxquite sad really
12:07.07dank_workheh
12:07.16dank_workBig party, then :)
12:07.18Clyphoxits just that I know I'm gonna hate it cause I have no friends to come along (barr the odd sod from work..)
12:07.24dank_workAwww
12:07.29Clyphoxyeah.. "A right Pissup"
12:07.35Clyphoxits true..
12:07.46ClyphoxI have no meat-space social life at all
12:07.58dank_workTell me about it :-/
12:08.07ClyphoxI only know and talk with Resudaed and thats just cause he's round my house lots
12:08.22dank_workWhere do you live (approx.) anyway?
12:08.40ClyphoxIt suits me though.. less friends means less money on social life and more money on geeky toys..
12:08.50Clyphoxdank_work, Tottenham..
12:08.51dank_workbut friends are good, really
12:08.58dank_workClyphox: Hm. Tube station?
12:09.00Clyphoxdank_work, dunno ;)
12:09.08dank_work:)
12:09.12Clyphoxdank_work, Ah.. tottenam Hale..
12:09.30Clyphoxtoo far for a tube but 20Min from Liverpool..
12:09.46dank_workSo you come on a normal train to Liverpool St.?
12:09.59davilionClyphox: im game for that i think
12:10.38davilionyup should be there.
12:11.00Clyphoxdank_work, the nearest train station is called Southbury of Brimsdown. The neerest Tube I know off is Seven Sisters I think
12:11.10Clyphoxdavilion, great..
12:11.15dank_workHum
12:11.18ClyphoxBring some Grogg if you want..
12:11.50Clyphoxits in Enfield Highway.. Just off the A10
12:12.50Clyphoxdank_work, it takes 20min from Brimmsdown to Liverpool.. but there arn't any tube stations really close.. apart from maybe Whinchmore
12:13.22dank_workSo where might I meet you for a drink, then?
12:13.52ClyphoxAparently the sumb Hall must be "vacated" by 11PM.. sucky.. just gonna go home and play quake maybe hehe
12:14.10dank_workfunfunfun
12:14.26Clyphoxdank_work, I don't know.. in London if you want.. might take me awhile to get in depending when..
12:14.36Clyphoxrecommend a a place if you like :)
12:14.53dank_workI don't know many places
12:15.06Clyphoxneither..
12:15.34ClyphoxCan just have a beer outside or whatever.. there are some nice places where I work even.. (10min walk from home)
12:15.43Clyphoxwhatever...
12:15.55dank_workYes, but the problem there comes that I don't know how to get to where you work
12:16.03dank_workAnd I'm going to be training, not driving
12:16.25ClyphoxWhat station do you normally go to?
12:16.36ClyphoxI can direct ya..
12:16.46dank_workI come in to Marylebone
12:17.34ClyphoxAh.. well swing round to Liverpool or try to get to Seven Sisters/Tottenham Hale..
12:17.43ClyphoxThen its not much further..
12:17.44dank_workLiverpool Street?
12:18.05ClyphoxBig one on the top-right.. Circle line etc..
12:18.11dank_workYeah, I know it well.
12:18.14Clyphoxer Station.. sry..
12:18.18dank_workBut that is the station you're talking about, right?
12:18.26Clyphoxyup
12:18.36dank_work*nod*
12:18.59ClyphoxIts then 40Min to get to the one 2min from my house or 20min to Brimmsdown (20min walk to get home)
12:19.17dank_workHmm..
12:19.19Clyphoxcan possibly arrange a lift from home if my parents agree..
12:19.25dank_workMaybe we should meet somewhere half-way?
12:19.44Clyphoxyeah.. but all the places between are grotty hehe
12:19.50dank_workGreen Man pub?
12:19.56Clyphoxwhere dat?
12:19.58dank_workThat's not so grotty
12:20.02dank_workthe post-Gllug pub
12:20.24ClyphoxWas that the one we were at when we met?
12:20.28dank_workYes
12:20.40ClyphoxAhh I can do that.. not bad drink after all
12:20.49dank_workCool.
12:21.07Clyphox:)
12:21.09dank_workThat's kinda half-way in between
12:21.25Clyphoxonly fair..
12:21.36dank_workYeah
12:22.16ClyphoxAnyone else wanna go get drunk?
12:22.27Clyphoxdavilion, ?
12:23.10davilionClyphox: could do what time? what day?
12:25.46Clyphox[yawn]
12:32.21Clyphoxhi zimm
12:32.26zimmhey Clyphox
12:34.11ClyphoxHowzit?
12:34.38zimmooooh , nay bad mate ...
12:34.55zimmscored a rio mp3 player for next to fsck all earlier :)
12:35.19Clyphoxheh
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12:36.10dank_workhey babe
12:36.14jensonhey babe
12:36.32Clyphoxhi jenson
12:36.35jensonhey Clyphox
12:36.36zimmwb jenson
12:36.45jensonty zimm
12:36.59Clyphox:)
12:37.04zimm:)
12:40.19Clyphoxyou can say that again..
12:40.45jensonClyphox: I thought you were trying to work
12:41.34Clyphoxtrying is the word hehe
12:41.49dank_workAny perl people here?
12:42.01jensonClyphox: Are you as cute as Alex?
12:42.09ClyphoxI made a hit counter many moons ago? ;-)
12:42.25Clyphoxjenson, cute.. er..
12:43.32ClyphoxI think I look better but I don't think either of us are remotly good-looking.. hehe
12:43.33daviliondank_work: i dabble with perl from time to time
12:44.01ClyphoxI used to dive for perls.. (really)
12:44.04jensonClyphox: Well, i thought Alex was, so if you think you're better then :P
12:44.30zimmjenson:  you think everyone is cute ;P
12:44.30Clyphoxjenson,I'm still male which classes me as egotistic so beware :)
12:45.02dank_workOkay then. Explain:
12:45.10dank_workgs -q -dBATCH -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE%B%A%Z -sOutputFile=- - | perl -e &quot;while (\$line = &lt;&gt;) { my \$b = \&quot;%E\&quot;; \$match |= ( \$line =~ s/\x1b&amp;l\d+A/\$&amp;\$b/ ); \$line =~ s/\x1b&amp;l0H/\$b/g; print \$line }&quot;
12:45.32dank_work(the &foo; entitites will need to be replaced with their character)
12:45.39jensonzimm: I do not lol
12:45.46zimm:P
12:45.54dank_workzimm: It's true. There was one guy. Once.
12:46.01zimmahh ..
12:47.17highburydank_work: using html metacharacters makes it harder to follow, and spot the errors
12:47.19jensondank_work: Who would that have been?
12:47.32dank_workjenson: The guy with all the spots you mentioned?
12:47.32zimmjenson:  the pope ?
12:47.45dank_workhighbury: Bah :-P Give me a min. then
12:48.03highburywhat is it a command line or cgi?
12:48.17ClyphoxBe back in a bogomip.. LPR problems..
12:48.32jensondank_work: Yeah, I think he's given up hitting on me, I hope
12:48.51dank_workCommand line
12:48.55dank_workWell, part of Foomatic
12:49.33dank_workjenson: Hehe. Now if others did that too.....
12:49.53jensondank_work: I'd be very, very bored...
12:50.15dank_workNot really....you'd still have me...
12:50.31jensonOh yeah :D
12:51.30dank_workhighbury: Is this better:
12:51.34dank_workgs -q -dBATCH -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE%B%A%Z -sOutputFile=- - | perl -e "while
12:51.34dank_work($line = <>) { my $b = \"%E\"; $match |= ( $line =~
12:51.34dank_works/\x1b&l\d+A/$&$b/ ); $line =~ s/\x1b&l0H/$b/g; print $line }"
12:57.32highburysingle quotes round the whole thing are more common. what's $match used for. mixing shel replacements $b in script also make it confusing.
12:57.50highburyi.e. its not a valid command line
12:58.16dank_workhm
12:59.24Clyphoxhey ho
12:59.38ClyphoxI feel so loved :-)
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12:59.42zimmlol
12:59.42dank_work:)
12:59.45dank_workHi will
12:59.52jensonhi will
12:59.54Clyphoxhi pie
13:00.18pieAh, hello.
13:00.22ClyphoxI keep thinking of the pie in the sky.. what is that? why am I thinking about it?
13:00.45pieThere was a series about a chef called pie in the sky I think
13:00.50pieMaybe a chef detective
13:00.55dank_workYeah
13:00.56pienot too sure now
13:00.57Clyphoxdunno...
13:00.58dank_workWith Richard Griffiths
13:00.58jensonClyphox: At least you aren't thinking about the kinda pie that The Rock sang about
13:01.08pieThe well proportioned one.
13:01.18Clyphoxjenson, the wrestler?
13:01.21HuhnClyphox: <sing>I'm just the pie in the skye, looking at you...</sing> ? ;)
13:01.24jensonClyphox: Yeag
13:01.28ClyphoxAhh..
13:01.33Huhnhi pie
13:01.34dank_workAhh. Huhn.
13:01.35ClyphoxI remember watching his debut..
13:01.36highburyThe Rocks gone Bad!
13:01.36pieHi
13:01.43Clyphoxmany years ago now...
13:01.47Huhnaaah. dank_work.
13:01.49Huhn:)
13:02.05dank_workI forgot that Friday isn't a good day for me - I'm likely to be in Oxford
13:02.21Clyphoxsounds like worthy fun though...
13:02.36Clyphoxperfectly justified..
13:04.42Clyphoxhighbury, Huhn , pie  wanna come to my party?
13:04.56HuhnClyphox: when and where? ;)
13:05.04pdrsomeone say party?
13:05.10Clyphoxpdr!
13:05.15ClyphoxMy 21st..
13:05.21Clyphoxthe party is on the 22nd..
13:05.31Clyphoxrented a little hall thingee down the road..
13:05.35ClyphoxEnfield Highway..
13:05.45HuhnClyphox: I'll be in Tux on the 22nd.. skiing holiday, but thanks anyway
13:05.56ClyphoxThinking of doing a Quake fest or summin fun
13:06.16ClyphoxHuhn, sounds fun.. enjoy  :-)
13:06.20jensonI damn well wanted to be there...but if Dan is in Canda then I wont be
13:06.25jensonCanada
13:06.25HuhnClyphox: geek ski trip ;)
13:06.32Clyphoxhehe
13:07.13dank_work:)
13:08.31ClyphoxBasicly everyone is invited.. I'm just a sad poor geek looking for some friends..
13:08.47dank_workYou have friends..
13:09.00ClyphoxI figure seeing as my Dad's and Sister have friends maybe I can get some to come too..
13:09.22Clyphoxjenson, thanks :)
13:10.09dank_workWhich one?
13:10.13dank_workBee or Sarah?
13:10.15jensonBee
13:10.18dank_workhehe
13:10.26jensonShe thinks he's sexy
13:10.33jensonand scary after reading the rant
13:10.37dank_workC|N>K
13:10.45jensonYOU ARE NOT A SALMON!!!!
13:10.46jensonlol
13:10.46zimm:)
13:11.04dank_workWhat?
13:11.17Clyphox?
13:11.33jensonlol me and zimm understand lol
13:11.38dank_workWell that's nice.
13:11.49dank_workIf it's an injoke, don't put it on the channel without explaining
13:12.09jensonlol you've read it too Dan
13:12.16dank_workThe rant?
13:12.19jensonYeah
13:12.27dank_workI don't see what is has to do with salmon
13:12.43jensonoh fs dont you remember that bit?
13:12.50dank_workno
13:13.00jensonlol n/m
13:13.15zimmhttp://gubbs.sytes.net/~gubbs/zimm.html  <<< if you HAVE to
13:14.10jensonlol
13:14.17jensonDoesnt quite cover it hon
13:15.05zimmhmm , maybe not
13:15.11jensonTiem for lunch
13:15.16dank_workbye
13:15.20jensonI shgould be back at 3:30
13:15.23jensonI gope
13:15.26jensonhope
13:15.31jensonbut I'm not sure
13:15.38zimmlaters jenson :) , have fun ..
13:15.39Clyphoxcya
13:16.00jensonlaterz zimm, you too :P
13:16.03jensoncya Clyphox
13:27.14Clyphoxhehe
13:28.13zimmhehe
13:28.37formi_the trauma of using a windows box
13:28.42dank_work:)
13:28.45ClyphoxAck!
13:31.03formi_anyway im back to the fos world
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13:38.03dank_workwb
13:38.10jensonty
13:38.21zimm3:30 already ? ..
13:38.41Clyphoxdate
13:38.49jensonlol
13:38.57jensonI felt depressed and confused
13:39.00jensonSo I'm back lol
13:39.12dank_workThat'll just make you feel more so
13:39.20jensonMost liekly but still
13:39.36Clyphoxthe less dependancies the better in life..
13:39.40formi_jenson, being a female might have something to do with it
13:39.41dank_workYeah.
13:39.48dank_workSlackware has no dependencies. And it's good :)
13:39.54jensonformi_: Yeah, I think it does
13:47.22jensonDAMN I had a freaking picture of Dan loaded and I hadn't noticed, and one of the teachers just pointed and smiled lol
13:47.27dank_work:)
13:47.50jensonClyphox: My mate wants to know more about the times of your party thing etc
13:48.03jensonAt least I should be able to beat her at a QaukeFest
13:49.09Clyphoxhmmm.. food.. Chicken.. Thanks to Alex :)
13:49.12Clyphoxlol
13:49.15dank_work:)
13:49.28ClyphoxThe time.. The hall is 7:30-11:30
13:49.46Clyphoxbut personall I don't see why not take it afterwards home..
13:49.51ClyphoxOnly 10min walk away..
13:49.57Clyphoxand more booze at home..
13:50.03jensonWell, I'd have to convince my parentsd to pick me up at Colchester...trains to our town last one leaves at 20:47
13:50.11ClyphoxMy folks might complaine buit after all ITS MY PARTY!! :-)
13:50.29dank_workYeah, but having lots of geeks descending is a bit worrying
13:50.39Clyphoxjenson, you may crash at mine..
13:51.00jensonClyphox: If I'm allowed I will
13:51.12Clyphoxdank_work, thats what I want.. I've had over 8 ppl in my room before.. playing N64/PC etc..
13:51.32dank_work:)
13:52.22jensonDamn I gotta go
13:52.36jensonseeyall
14:30.32Clyphoxnoobs
14:30.40dank_workmm?
14:30.52dank_workHehe :)
14:30.59dpashjenson is always going somewhere when ever I'm here
14:31.08dank_workeh?
14:31.10dank_workWDYM?
14:31.22dpash[13:52] < jenson> Damn I gotta go
14:31.25dank_workAh
14:31.27dank_work:)
14:31.28dpashjust come back from lunh
14:31.28Clyphoxurbanterror.bet :)
14:31.37dpashdank_work: and before lunch too
14:31.46Clyphoxer .net
14:31.55dank_workHm
14:32.02dank_workYou're just on at the wrong time :)
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14:37.51Clyphox[yawn]... work time
14:38.50dank_workfun
14:38.52dank_workme too
14:39.54dank_workGood to have a job where you can afford beer
14:43.56ClyphoxCheaper in scotland.. worse pay tho
14:44.10dank_workSo it balaknces out
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14:49.14dank_workhey jason_ukfsn
14:49.17jason_ukfsnafternoon all
14:49.18Clyphoxre
14:49.45pie'lo
14:50.00pieHmmmm.
14:50.26jason_ukfsnIf anyone intends going up to the B'ham Expo next month and wants to help with petrol costs I will be able to give a lift (going up evening of 14th and returning evening of 16th
14:51.09dank_workCool. But I might be boring and take the train for one day
14:51.27piehttp://web.bham.ac.uk/s.m.stocks.cen/ChillieSauce/WestIndianEncona.htm
14:51.32pieYou should all get some
14:51.40dank_work:)
14:51.59Clyphoxdamn..
14:52.06pieHmmm.
14:52.17pieyou can get it at sainsburys.
14:52.28dank_work:)
14:52.36pieand can pick up some chilli sauce while you are there
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14:57.36dank_workwb
14:57.51Clyphoxre
14:58.12dank_workI hate computesr
14:58.17dank_works/esr/ers/
14:58.40ClyphoxI know the feeling.. dispite my passion for them and my fledgling collection..
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14:59.27Clyphoxdate
14:59.34dank_workwb
14:59.37Clyphoxhmm hello.. less than a minute off :-)
14:59.39jensonhey Clyphox
14:59.44jensonty Dan
14:59.46ClyphoxAnd early at that too :-)
15:00.00Clyphoxhi
15:00.02dank_workClyphox: I have too many
15:00.11jensonawww
15:00.40Clyphoxer a vacume
15:01.04jensondank_work: Good idea :D
15:01.08dank_works/to/do/
15:01.13jensonoh ffs
15:01.16jensoni gotta go again
15:01.18jensoncya
15:01.22Clyphoxhehe
15:01.28Clyphoxwhats ffs ?>
15:01.44dank_workfor fucks sake
15:01.59Clyphoxahh..
15:02.01dank_workOr the BSD Fast File System
15:02.04dank_work(Fast?)
15:02.14ClyphoxI'm going afk.. must finish this dumb script...
15:02.19dank_work:(
15:02.21dank_workOkay then
15:02.28Clyphoxor freiendly Fire System (Quake3)
15:02.31dank_work:)
15:02.38Clyphox(spelt corectly that is)
15:02.44dank_workfriendly
15:05.28dank_workUrgh. Stupid routing issues.
15:05.33dank_work*thud* *thud* *thud*
15:06.19Clyphox|AFK....must.... work.... else....
15:06.26dank_workNoo. IRC better.
15:06.31dank_workIRC gives you friends.
15:06.51dank_workWork gives you customers
15:12.05pdrClyphox|AFK: 22nd, enfield, ok, will be there
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15:17.15Clyphox|AFKjust finished the coffee! only bought this jar 2 weeks ago..
15:17.26dank_workheh
15:17.30dank_workyou drink too much
15:17.51Clyphox|AFKno I buy nice coffee so everyone else uses it hehe
15:17.57dank_workhehe :)
15:17.58Clyphox|AFKohhh guys..
15:18.01formi<PROTECTED>
15:18.09Clyphox|AFKI had a guy come in asking for a copy of Solaris on Thu
15:18.25dank_workheh
15:18.34Clyphox|AFKI told him he should try FreeBSd or Deb and I will try get CD's for him..
15:18.43dank_workNa. Slack. Not Deb
15:18.46Clyphox|AFKhe's a total noob.
15:18.48dank_workWhere's your principles, man?
15:18.58Clyphox|AFKI thought the Slack sparc port died?
15:19.07Clyphox|AFKI'm releived!
15:19.16dank_workFreeBSD doesn't run on SPARC
15:19.46ClyphoxI would have thought it does.. er.. actually I said Obsd anyhow..
15:20.02dank_work:)
15:20.15ClyphoxI want him to start on Linux anyhow.. I'm gonna go round his place and maybe propose buying it off him hehe
15:20.29ClyphoxMaybe swap my Dual PIII ...
15:20.49ClyphoxI want RISC and it will do me good not to be able to play Quake3#
15:22.33zimmlol
15:23.41ClyphoxI is serious man..less Quake3 and more coding.. I'll be a "coder" one day soon then :-)
15:24.28Clyphox:(( I want one so badly.. none on ebay :(
15:24.35dank_workI have one. :-P
15:24.36Clyphoxno old sparcs on ebay even!
15:26.52dank_workAww.
15:30.25Clyphoxdank_work, so is the slack/sparc port any good?
15:30.35dank_workNever used it
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15:31.11ClyphoxI heard it died.. I would personally use N/Obsd anyhow.. anyhow.. gtg
15:31.16dank_workIt did die
15:31.20Clyphoxhi, bye formi
15:31.34formibye
15:31.58dank_workhi formi
15:32.30formihello
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15:35.09dank_workwb babe
15:35.20jensondank_work: Bee wants u to come cluubing with us
15:35.31dank_workI know
15:35.57dank_work:)
15:36.21jensonShe said she'd convinced you, then she said she hadnt
15:38.18dank_workShe hasn't
15:39.22ClyphoxI the old days its recconed men used to go clubbing alot..
15:39.56Clyphoxthey used to catch their wives/mates like that.. kathump.. over the head then drag them back to the cave.. muhahaha
15:40.01dank_work:)
15:40.28jensonlol Clyphox
15:43.16dank_workOi. Don't laugh. I'm trying to do timeshits here.
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15:45.29jensonwb formi
15:46.10formita
15:46.58ClyphoxMy boss told a girl at a Linux expo that I use Slack and she said I was "old fasioned" !! </random muse>
15:47.03dank_work:)
15:47.10dank_workOld fashioned good
15:47.22Clyphoxports tree good
15:47.26Clyphoxkiss good
15:48.07dank_workyeah
15:48.15Clyphoxgtg..
15:49.08Clyphox|afkback in a bogomip
15:49.40dank_work:)
15:51.13jensonI gotta hgo meet my mate
16:01.03dank_workwb Clyphox
16:01.19ClyphoxTanks
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16:02.05pie'lo again
16:02.16piesorry about that, machine locked solid
16:02.26piehad to fsck like crazy
16:02.30dank_workheh
16:02.31dank_workwb
16:02.45pieI think it was vncviewer that did it, and xscreensave
16:02.46pieare
16:07.44Clyphoxdamn I've beed larted alot!
16:07.49dank_workheh
16:08.20Clyphoxsorry..
16:08.36ClyphoxI don't know why I thought you had one..
16:14.30dank_work:)
16:14.42dank_workFor those who are confused, Clyphox is talking about him thinking I had a LART board
16:15.06Clyphoxwhat else whould I have been talking about?
16:15.21dank_workDunno, but it started in private message, then moved to here
16:15.46Clyphoxer
16:16.32dank_worker?
16:16.37dank_workwhimpers?
16:16.48Clyphoxda
16:16.52dank_work:)
16:43.19ClyphoxAnyone familiar with awk alave atm?
16:43.31Clyphoxjust want to print some stin stuff
16:43.48ClyphoxI don't to cut..
16:52.46nasratumm you want to print all columns or what?
16:53.12Clyphoxjust clip certain columns out..
16:54.46ClyphoxSee there may be alot of columns and I can't controll how many.. but I want to just ignore certain columns and maybe move column 5(and upwards) into the middle or something..
16:58.23Clyphoxqqq
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17:01.29Clyphoxre
17:01.37ClyphoxScreen just went funny :(
17:01.42Clyphoxtwice..
17:03.38dank_workhm
17:04.28Clyphox99% useage.. only running BitchX and man
17:07.57Clyphoxsorry to keep doing this..
17:08.05Clyphoxhow do I replace some stuff with sed.. ?
17:08.50ClyphoxBloody man pages is in Navaho
17:09.50dank_worksed -e "s/foo/bar/"
17:10.24Clyphoxwhy is it so hard to have a simple example? :(
17:10.27Clyphoxthanks m8
17:10.31dank_work:)
17:10.45dank_workUse s/foo/bar/g if you want to replace all occurences
17:10.54dank_workand s/foo/bar/n to replace the n'th occurrence
17:12.02Clyphoxcool
17:12.57Clyphoxhow would I replace something like /home/david with DD ?
17:13.14ClyphoxI've tried a little bit of /\/\ crud.. I'm just confused now..
17:14.02dank_works/\/home\/david/DD/
17:15.27Clyphoxsheesh..
17:16.12Clyphoxdoesn't like that..
17:16.30Clyphoxohh my bad..
17:21.22Clyphoxhow would I convert a / to a \ ?
17:21.47Clyphox(so dumb customer can recognize wht he's looking at (samba))
17:24.30dank_work:)
17:24.37dank_works/\//\\/
17:24.44dank_work(probably with a 'g' on the end)
17:25.11Clyphoxeek
17:25.17Clyphoxhere goes...
17:25.44Clyphoxnope
17:26.52dank_workNo?
17:27.00Clyphoxnope..
17:27.45Clyphoxnope
17:33.59Clyphoxdank_work ,any idea?
17:34.31dank_workI never have any idea :)
17:37.17dank_workOr if tomorrow would suit you better
17:39.45ClyphoxI think tomorrow is safer..
17:40.06dank_workHmm.
17:40.14dank_workI'll see what I can do
17:49.09cupnigth
17:49.12cupnight
17:49.26dank_workBye
17:50.01ClyphoxCya
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17:54.52A4266Hey all
17:55.27ClyphoxHey freako
17:58.21A4266David, stop talking to yaself...
17:58.53ClyphoxA4266, www.dictionary.com
17:59.11Clyphoxbloody jewish or summing?
18:00.11A4266try www.real_life_englsh.com some time ;)
18:00.55A4266I wish, I'd have money if I was jewish!! And I woldn't be rellated to you!!
18:01.05A4266*wouldn't
18:01.13ClyphoxBah
18:01.54A4266anyway, thats no way to talk to your elders!!
18:02.25Clyphox`
18:02.44ClyphoxA4266 : GOSUB
18:04.40A4266ypu mean as in "elder's"?
18:04.44A4266*you
18:09.10highburyor should I just say, please avoid Racist conotations to what you say
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18:10.56jason_ukfsnevenin' all
18:12.12murblegood evening jason
18:22.02highburyhmmm ... no response from Clyphox or A4266 :-|
18:25.30murblefunny that.
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19:14.23ompheHey guys!
19:15.33Huhnhi omphe
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19:24.03highburyHi Richard
19:24.47dpashhi all
19:25.06omphe'lo dpash
19:25.49Huhnhi Leeds
19:25.52Huhnhi dpash
19:26.23stephenevening all
19:26.34dpashentertain me someone ;)
19:27.48dpashw00t I get 5 /. moderator points
19:27.55dpashwhat shall I do with them
19:28.25dpashboth by /. and his spelling
19:28.33stephen;)
19:28.48Leedsevening
19:29.05stephenevening Leeds
19:30.01dpashanyone know how to split windows in screen
19:30.48Huhnsplit? vertically? horizontally?
19:31.34dpashHuhn: horizontal would be best
19:34.25Huhnarghs
19:34.32Huhntesting killed my screen ;)
19:35.07dpashsorry
19:35.27Huhnno prob :) cannot find anything in the manpage..
19:35.40dpashHuhn: I didn;t think there would be
19:35.57Huhndpash: why do you need that splitting?
19:36.14dpashso I can irc and read mail at the same time ;)
19:36.38Huhnwhy don't you have several virtual windows in one window?
19:36.44Huhnok, you'd have to switch..
19:37.50ompheyou could do it in emacs with erc, but it seriously sucks.
19:38.18omphefair enough
19:38.19dpashnone of his machines have theat crap on it
19:38.27Huhndpash: :)
19:38.37Huhndpash is the master of vim syntax highlighting ;)
19:38.51dpashHuhn: I use ctrl-a 1....n
19:39.04Huhndpash: that's what I meant..
19:39.13dpashHuhn: see I don't need to fish for complements
19:39.22dpashyou just throw them at me without warning
19:39.23Huhntrue ;)
19:39.39Huhndid that hurt?
19:39.47dpashnot really
19:40.22Huhnhey, I'm just happy that I've learned sth useful ;)
19:40.52ClyphoxI never got into vi
19:41.11dpashClyphox: apt-get install vim && vim
19:41.16dpash:help
19:41.28Leedsvimtutor
19:41.33Huhn:)
19:41.39dpashctrl-] to follow links
19:42.37ClyphoxI just use mcedit if I want syntax highlighting..
19:43.15dpashClyphox: vim does much more that syntax highlightinh
19:43.29dpashit can mow your lawn
19:43.30Clyphoxconvert me ?
19:43.37dpashit can play towers of hanoi
19:43.41ClyphoxAnd make a living for me?
19:43.58dpashClyphox: it can't write your thesis for you
19:44.06dpashfor that you need emacs
19:44.09ClyphoxWhat about Coffee?
19:44.19Leedstetris..
19:44.31dpashLeeds: I've not seen that one
19:44.38ClyphoxSeriously... why should I have to go R just to type a line?
19:45.17Leedshttp://vim.sourceforge.net/scripts/script.php?script_id=172
19:45.32ompheThis foxes me as well, if I just want to read a file, I'll type "more".
19:46.11ClyphoxI don't care for tetris.
19:46.12Leedsless :-)
19:46.21dpashless is better than more
19:46.28dpashesp with lesspipe
19:46.28Clyphoxless isn't always there.. more is more often there..
19:46.30Huhnless is more than more ;)
19:46.47ClyphoxnetBSD for example
19:47.12Leedsless is always there on any machine I use
19:47.24dpashClyphox: sadly you won't appriciate vim until you have learnt it well
19:47.36dpashit is worth the hassle
19:48.11ClyphoxI know its great etc.. but I would rather learn C or SQL or anything that I can earn money doing.. maybe .NET and ASP
19:48.17ClyphoxI hear ASP is awesome!
19:48.27dpashibot: lart Clyphox
19:48.38LeedsI don't learn money with vim... but it makes me better at my job
19:49.01ClyphoxJust getting.. waking some ppl up..
19:49.09Leedslearn=earn
19:49.34ClyphoxLike how?
19:49.45Clyphoxscript tasks?
19:50.05Leedsnot even scripting...
19:50.27dpashClyphox: no mouse needed
19:50.28Leedsjust being quick at navigating... I suppose simple scriptnig
19:50.45ClyphoxWhats a mouse?
19:50.49dpashClyphox: you don't need to move your fingers to the cursor keys
19:51.02dpashexcellent for touch typists
19:51.54dpashI can delete 4 lines and place them after line 7 in 6 key stokes
19:52.23dpashI can reindent a whole file of code in 6 keystrokes
19:52.28Leeds5 if you count shift-D as one :-)
19:52.34dpash7 if you include the shift
19:53.08dpashLeeds: 4dd:7<enter>p
19:53.13dpashI forgot the <enter>
19:53.45dpash4dd7gp?
19:54.25dpashnope 7gg
19:54.26Leedsah, enter - forgot that
19:54.29Clyphoxnice
19:54.48dpashbut saves on the shift
19:55.26dpashcan transpose two characters in 2 keystrokes: xp
19:55.35ClyphoxStill not enough to make me bother trying.. one day sure but need to fiddle with things that have more uses to me atm.. open-mosix for one :)
19:55.35Leedsplus, it has excellent docs, and the author doesn't smell as much as RMS :-)
19:55.49Clyphoxlol
19:56.01dpashand he doesn't mind you worshiping at his feet
19:56.03ClyphoxI go play UrbanTerror now..
19:56.09dpashand hten getting very drunk
19:56.10Clyphoxlol
19:56.13Leedstrue...
19:56.30Leedsand he has a cool Python-based make replacement called Monkey :-)
19:56.50dpashLeeds: AAP ?
19:56.57Leedsyeah
19:57.13LeedsDutch for monkey, apparently
19:57.17dpashI was not aware of it being called monkey
19:57.39Leedsthat was his answer to "what does a-a-p mean?"
19:58.49dpashsilly bram
19:59.01dpashnaughty wicked bram
19:59.32Leedshe thought of the name before he thought of a project to attach it to
20:00.06dpashbah
20:00.17Leedswhy?
20:00.51dpashcos I couldn;t say silly bram again
20:02.22Leedssilly yes, wicked no...
20:02.40dpashholy grail reference
20:03.04Leedsah.. missed me... I never liked that as much
20:03.43dpashthe ending is crap
20:03.51dpashbut that is because they don't know how to end it
20:04.08LeedsI do have Life of Brian on DVD... and implanted in my brain
20:04.09dpashthe whole policeman thing feels tacked on and probably was
20:04.19Leedsyeah
20:04.31dpashYou are all difference
20:04.34dpashI'm not
20:04.37Leedsyes, we are all different
20:04.49Leedsit did strike me, the other day...
20:05.02dpashsorry I can't quite remember the whoole scene so I riuned it
20:05.29dpashwhat have the romans every done for us?
20:05.31Leedsthat the US/UK are giving Saddam 10 days to dismantle the entire Iraqi military apparatus...
20:05.37Leedsabout 10 lines before that :-)
20:06.23HuhnZzZbye
20:06.26HuhnZzZ<- bed, still ill
20:07.02HuhnZzZthanks, Leeds
20:07.36dpash<symapathy/>
20:07.57Leedshmm... anyway, I could find a LoB script the other day - it just struck me that they were acting out that scene...
20:08.03Leedssorry for the politics :-)
20:10.38dpashas long as it is his ;)
20:11.10dpashs/irony/joke/etc
20:11.18Leedsit's like a kind of metal?
20:11.49dpashyes
20:12.30Leedsheavy metal?
20:14.26dpashindustrial
20:29.25dpashbah no one is talking I'm going to bed
20:29.29dpashknackered
20:29.33dpashnight all
20:30.10Leedsbed?
20:30.12Leedsg'night...
20:30.20omphenight dpash
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20:42.30omphe_ignore the man behind the curtain, just testing a gw.
20:42.58omphel
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21:14.35ClyphoxI'm going to bed..
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21:49.33Leedswhoa...
21:49.37dankolbhi
21:49.43Leeds3 years ago today was the peak of the NASDAQ :-(
21:49.54dankolb:-/
21:50.04Leeds5,048.62
21:50.13dankolbWhat's it now?
21:50.23Leeds1278.37
21:50.30dankolbAhh
21:51.23Leedsthe day the buddle burst...
21:51.26Leedsbubble!
21:51.44dankolbAh
21:55.55Leedsjust went into the kitchen to make a drink (Ribena - I'm not that old!), made it, walked out leaving it on the worksurface...
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22:07.18dankolb:)
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22:22.06dankolbHi Jenson
22:22.28Jensonhey
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22:37.39Leedsdoing the hokey-cokey?
22:39.12Jensonhiya Leeds
22:40.49Leedshey
22:40.59Jensonhw are you
22:41.11JensonLeeds: I havent killed the sound yet :)
22:42.06marko85_ukwhat sound :)
22:42.29Leedsgood!
22:42.54Jensoneven if I do have to modprobe emu10k1 on login to get it to work
22:43.31Leedshaven't you fixed the bloody /etc/rc.d/rc.modules yet? :-)
22:44.15Jensonobviously not
22:44.18JensonI'll let Dan do it
22:44.21Leeds...
22:44.22Leedseasy
22:44.24Leedsbecome root
22:44.39Jensonyeh
22:44.41Leedsecho "/sbin/modprobe emu10k1" >> /etc/rc.d/rc.modules
22:45.36Jensonheh I'm just impressed it works at all
22:45.47JensonSeenas my Windows sound is still fscked
22:48.05Leedsit should work now, if you did exactly what I said...
22:48.19Leedsnow I want to know why my instanbul was out of time :-(
23:25.29formiim back
23:25.33formiwith a question
23:26.21formiwhat's the difference between the dns1 and dns2?
23:26.36formiwhen dns2 is the secondary dns server
23:32.12Leedsthere are two sides to it...
23:32.23Leedsthe clients will just pick one of the two at random...
23:33.16Leedsbut the *data* on the secondary is loaded directly from the primary, so all you need to do is update the primary, and the secondary will pick up the changes (immediately if the server is SIGHUPed, within a few hours otherwise)
23:33.54formiwell I wanted the secondary to provide for another domain not listed on the primary
23:34.05formiflood alert
23:34.25formiroot@ns:~/.ssh# cat /var/named/localhost.zone
23:34.25formi$TTL    86400
23:34.25formi$ORIGIN localhost.
23:34.25formi@                       1D IN SOA       @ root (
23:34.25formi<PROTECTED>
23:34.26formi<PROTECTED>
23:34.28formi<PROTECTED>
23:34.32formi<PROTECTED>
23:34.34formi<PROTECTED>
23:34.38formi<PROTECTED>
23:34.40formi<PROTECTED>
23:34.56formithis doesn't look familiar to me
23:35.26Leedswell, it's a little strange..
23:35.31LeedsI'm not a bind expert...
23:35.38Leedsbut it doesn't look *wrong*
23:36.11formi1D in a 127.0.0.1
23:36.20formione d?
23:36.28formithat looks odd to me
23:36.33Leedsoh, that...
23:36.37LeedsRTFH
23:37.40formiand serail (d. adams) ??
23:37.51formis/serail/serial
23:38.20formilooking at the backup now
23:38.25Leedsthat's just a comment
23:38.48Leedsthe serial is strange... but not actually wrong - it's normally date+a serial number
23:38.58JensonWell, time for bed
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23:39.01JensonGoodnight
23:39.03Jensondamn
23:39.06forminight Jenson
23:39.06JensonNow I gotta stay
23:39.29Leedsgnight Jenson
23:39.37dankolbHeh
23:39.39Jensonheh
23:39.40dankolbNo you don't :)
23:39.41dankolbNot for more than a min
23:39.50dankolb:)
23:40.01JensonOh good
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