| 00:15.46 | highbury | have to reboot, installed 2.4.20-SuSE, lets see what *they* think a kernel should look like :-) |
| 00:16.02 | Huhn | good luck, highbury |
| 00:16.12 | *** part/#gllug highbury (~steve@sc-gw4.homechoice.co.uk) |
| 00:20.03 | its-formi | any noticeable difference on speed? |
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| 00:22.33 | resuDaed | anyone awake? |
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| 00:22.43 | resuDaed | evening highbury |
| 00:22.54 | highbury | well it appears to work |
| 00:22.59 | resuDaed | what does? |
| 00:23.02 | Huhn | hi resuDaed |
| 00:23.02 | Huhn | wb highbury |
| 00:23.08 | highbury | > cat /proc/version |
| 00:23.08 | highbury | Linux version 2.4.20-64GB-SMP (root@SMP_X86.suse.de) (gcc version 3.3 20030226 (prerelease) (SuSE Linux)) #1 SMP Tue Mar 11 16:50:31 UTC 2003 |
| 00:23.22 | resuDaed | ah |
| 00:23.47 | its-formi | highbury: I was meaning what can you read from the info of your script on my machine? |
| 00:23.57 | highbury | I installed the latest prepackaged .rpm version of SuSE's kernel, prior to trying to patch the ftdi driver |
| 00:24.29 | resuDaed | how much does anyone know about ARP and DNS and MAC Masquading? |
| 00:25.41 | resuDaed | (I am wanting to combine the 3 in a very obscure way) |
| 00:25.42 | highbury | resuDaed: that you sometimes need to edit /etc/ethers to map MAC addresses to IP addresses, I'm not sure if DNS handles MAC addresses |
| 00:26.16 | resuDaed | highbury : what I am trying to figure out is a way to redirect ports based on the hostname requested |
| 00:26.55 | resuDaed | ie, more than 1 computer sharing a single IP, but all able to accept incoming connections from internet |
| 00:27.38 | resuDaed | behind NAT/IP Masq, connections are only possible with the computer on the internal network initialising the connection, I am trying to make the reverse possible |
| 00:27.56 | highbury | not sure that's strictly legal. You'd have to kludge something to intercept the traffic and redirect it to two different ip addresses |
| 00:28.27 | highbury | but masquerading might help, I'm just not expert enough on that |
| 00:28.46 | highbury | you may need to try on the list, if you get no replies here |
| 00:29.35 | resuDaed | legal? |
| 00:29.52 | highbury | its-formi: you've probably got 3 mbr's installed, in old parlance on /dev/hda, /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2 |
| 00:30.12 | resuDaed | all I am trying to do is the equivilant of port forwarding, but based on different hostnames as opposed to port numbers |
| 00:30.18 | highbury | you cant share IP addresses on a single network |
| 00:30.53 | its-formi | i had windows in a previous reincarnation in that disk, well the previous owner had it |
| 00:30.55 | highbury | but, the receiving end doesn't see 'hostnames' only 'ip-addresses' |
| 00:31.18 | its-formi | since then i have wiped out the disk completely several times |
| 00:31.20 | highbury | its-formi: what does fdisk -l return? |
| 00:31.31 | resuDaed | no, but using a gateway with masq' means all computers on a network can use the internet sharing the same IP |
| 00:32.10 | murble | oh blah Linux version 2.5.64 (root@greg-lnx) (gcc version 3.2.3 20030309 (Debian prerelease)) #1 Wed Mar 12 13:59:20 CET 2003 |
| 00:32.55 | resuDaed | what I am thinking is for a way for ARP to resolve a MAC with the NIC listening on multiple MAC addresses (say the addresses of NIC's on the internal network) |
| 00:33.02 | resuDaed | but based on hostname |
| 00:35.10 | highbury | sounds like you may need to get into the masquerading stack :-/ |
| 00:35.56 | highbury | you need to speak to an IP expert.... perhaps Bruce Richardson, anyway its beyond me, sorry |
| 00:36.04 | resuDaed | thanks anyway |
| 00:36.42 | resuDaed | This is all because I got annoyed at how difficult it was to run severs on an internal network without port forwarding |
| 00:37.54 | eye69 | resuDaed: The problem with that is that the hostname isn't supplied with the request |
| 00:38.05 | eye69 | That only happens with HTTP/1.1 |
| 00:38.13 | resuDaed | eye69 : I know, that is waht I am trying to figure out how to resolve |
| 00:38.58 | eye69 | If it was doable it would already be done |
| 00:39.02 | resuDaed | I am talking about general open sockets, but only the IP:PORT is requested as standard |
| 00:39.52 | eye69 | Would require a rewrite of both client and server stacks, and in that case a much easier solution can be done |
| 00:40.10 | resuDaed | I am still trying to figure a way around it |
| 00:40.30 | eye69 | Would it need to be accessible from any client? |
| 00:40.37 | eye69 | Ie. with no preconfiguration? |
| 00:40.40 | resuDaed | eye69 : yes, thats the prblem |
| 00:41.10 | murble | resuDaed: you want to do selective bridging? |
| 00:41.20 | resuDaed | murble : define? |
| 00:41.33 | murble | resuDaed: you were talking about doing weird netwrky stuff. |
| 00:41.46 | eye69 | I would say that it's a no-go |
| 00:41.50 | resuDaed | murble : yes, what I am after is wierd networking stuff |
| 00:41.55 | eye69 | It's just too weird |
| 00:42.22 | resuDaed | eye69 : if it was only on a local level, I could write a module to deal with it or something |
| 00:42.30 | eye69 | You'd have to go with port forwarding and use different ports or different external IP's |
| 00:42.36 | resuDaed | possibly add a network layer |
| 00:42.50 | murble | eye69: forwarding wouldn't help you, since that is layer somthing high. |
| 00:42.56 | eye69 | If you can preconfigure the clients a VPN is the easiest |
| 00:43.23 | resuDaed | anyway, I must go now |
| 00:43.35 | resuDaed | eye69 : are you running kde3 on testing/unstable? |
| 00:43.46 | eye69 | I'm not running KDE at all. I only run Openbox. |
| 00:44.04 | resuDaed | I installed kde3 to have a look ... |
| 00:44.08 | eye69 | I've never run KDE. I ran Gnome until a few months ago. |
| 00:44.10 | resuDaed | now kmail is 'broken' |
| 00:44.23 | resuDaed | would removing kde3 fix it? |
| 00:44.36 | eye69 | Not a clue. |
| 00:45.58 | resuDaed | laters all anyway, I am going to bed |
| 00:48.08 | its-formi | I bloody wonder why people keep using kmail |
| 00:48.30 | its-formi | most output from users is negative |
| 00:48.54 | Tarragon | Easy to use. We can look at the colourful pictures while waiting for all the spam to download. |
| 00:49.41 | its-formi | i have bad memories form kmal 0.X |
| 00:49.54 | highbury | I'm happy with it. PLUS I know if all goes totally to crap, I can revert back to pine easily |
| 00:50.34 | highbury | It now handles some of the digested mails I get far more elegantly. |
| 00:51.01 | highbury | its filtering is pretty good too, pretty easy to do |
| 00:51.49 | its-formi | i do prefer to have filtering done by a separate program |
| 00:53.03 | its-formi | if i were a malicious user trying to send emails to screw up mail programs, the ones with inbuilt filter would be the most accesible |
| 00:58.41 | Tarragon | While modular is better as programs can then usually concentrate on what they are doing, surely once you are passed the filtering you would be in the mail system anyway so would not make much difference. |
| 01:03.22 | pdr | lo |
| 01:03.34 | Huhn | hi Pet |
| 01:03.36 | Huhn | e |
| 01:03.38 | Huhn | :) |
| 01:05.51 | its-formi | Tarragon: kmail is more attractive to newbies, which probably have a less secure system than expert people |
| 01:06.13 | its-formi | hey pedro |
| 01:06.54 | its-formi | :-> |
| 01:10.32 | Tarragon | Very rare to get security vunerability noyices about Mail clients. Lots on the MTA's which are more likey to be on expert systems. That could be down to the experts knowing what weakness to look for though. |
| 01:12.54 | its-formi | if you want maximum effect, you'd go for a widely deployed mail app, for ie you have more victims running kmail, than procmail + pine,mutt,emacs... |
| 01:15.12 | highbury | most problems, would arise from people configuring kmail to display html mail in html format rather than text style |
| 01:16.57 | its-formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:17.13 | its-formi | i clean up before procmail reads it |
| 01:18.10 | its-formi | reasoning being that links is more feasible to handle html errors than procmail |
| 01:18.23 | its-formi | s/links/lynx |
| 01:43.32 | highbury | ok good night folks |
| 01:43.42 | Huhn | nn highbury |
| 01:43.52 | Tarragon | Night |
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| 01:51.22 | murble | oh dear. |
| 01:52.17 | its-formi | yes darling? |
| 01:55.13 | murble | I can't believe my colleuges, they don't liek the maial policy so they delete the exim filter file. |
| 01:57.02 | its-formi | backup ? |
| 01:59.22 | murble | of whata? |
| 02:00.04 | its-formi | the exim filter files? |
| 02:00.46 | murble | it is the system wide one to catch things ending in .exe etc. |
| 02:00.46 | its-formi | if they don't have root access you can always make it read only |
| 02:01.04 | its-formi | they do have root access then |
| 02:01.51 | murble | they have to. |
| 02:01.57 | its-formi | what about a little script hidden that checks if they have been nuked and if positive copy them back |
| 02:02.05 | murble | otherwise how would they break stuff and blame me? |
| 02:02.28 | its-formi | i love doing that, can I have root? |
| 02:02.42 | its-formi | one more one less, not much difference |
| 02:03.14 | murble | one of them seems to login, su emidiatly he has logged in randomly paste shit by accident into that putty window, whlist trying to findi a problem which he could do as a normal user. |
| 02:03.37 | murble | yesterday i found them advertising for my job. |
| 02:04.29 | murble | http://jobsearch.monster.lu/jobsearch.asp?co=xinetlux |
| 02:07.27 | its-formi | bloody hell, im getting load of hits on ports 80 and 443 |
| 02:07.51 | its-formi | firewall is filling up the logs |
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| 02:19.09 | its-formi | murble: tried to exit from #freebsd, but disconnected from the server |
| 02:19.21 | its-formi | gosh |
| 02:19.27 | its-formi | 2.20 am |
| 02:20.28 | HuhnZzZ | nn |
| 02:20.35 | its-formi | good night |
| 02:20.39 | HuhnZzZ | 3:20 here |
| 02:20.45 | HuhnZzZ | yawn |
| 02:21.05 | its-formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:21.19 | murble | what a boring machine. |
| 02:22.04 | murble | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:22.07 | murble | +497 |
| 02:22.09 | its-formi | you've seem my room, it is a very quiet machine at night |
| 02:22.18 | its-formi | s/seem/seen |
| 02:22.56 | its-formi | my landlord got an electricity bill for double the ammount than the previous one |
| 02:23.05 | murble | hehe |
| 02:23.10 | its-formi | guess who is blaming? |
| 02:23.27 | murble | well, this is his problem really, what does your tenancy agreement say? |
| 02:23.45 | its-formi | i told you about that |
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| 08:05.31 | SpudUAway | The last thing he said was - <Tarragon> CPU making a terrible noise - going to reboot. |
| 08:06.00 | SpudUAway | I'm worried, Tarragon, MIA. |
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| 08:32.57 | gpj | http://lkml.org/archive/2003/3/13/11/index.html |
| 08:33.05 | gpj | mine 2p |
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| 08:52.40 | SpudUAway | As in the Walt Disney film you know. |
| 08:52.53 | SpudUAway | No, not THAT Walt Disney...... |
| 08:55.12 | Tarragon | I take it you posted on the wrong channel :-) |
| 08:59.10 | dank_work | Morning |
| 09:00.07 | SpudUAway | Boing. |
| 09:01.33 | Tarragon | Have you run out of cornflakes again and so just eating the sugar with a spoon? |
| 09:02.04 | SpudUAway | No, just my usual bouncy self. |
| 09:04.34 | dank_work | "The wonderful things about Tiggers is......I'm the only one" |
| 09:05.02 | SpudUAway | No your not. |
| 09:06.06 | dank_work | There's only one of me at the moment |
| 09:06.14 | dank_work | It's only in the evenings there are two of me |
| 09:06.49 | SpudUAway | But I'm one of you too, doesn't that make three? |
| 09:07.02 | dank_work | Three-in-one? |
| 09:07.08 | dank_work | Or a threesome? |
| 09:07.21 | SpudUAway | I like to think that I am one in three. |
| 09:07.39 | dank_work | :) |
| 09:14.27 | dank_work | One in 4 people is mentally unstable. Look at three of your friends. If they're okay, you're the one. |
| 09:25.51 | SpudUAway | I don't have three friends. |
| 09:26.55 | dank_work | There's Tarragon... |
| 09:34.42 | Tarragon | You saying I have a split personality? |
| 09:35.51 | SpudUAway | No, I think Dan is saying You have a split personality. |
| 09:37.26 | Tarragon | We don't |
| 09:37.47 | dank_work | Neither of you? |
| 09:38.31 | SpudUAway | Hmm, I see. So instead of having no friends, of being stoical and absolutely self reliant you're saying I have just one friend. Aww, he's only got one friend. |
| 09:38.34 | Tarragon | No |
| 09:38.34 | Tarragon | Yes |
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| 09:39.07 | dank_work | :-) |
| 09:39.14 | dank_work | It's too early in the morning to be confused |
| 09:39.18 | dank_work | Morning cup |
| 09:41.20 | SpudUAway | And there's me, being too confused in the morning to be early. |
| 09:41.40 | dank_work | But you are early |
| 09:41.49 | dank_work | Therefore you can't be too confused this morning |
| 09:42.21 | SpudUAway | Err, I am actually, very very very very late. |
| 09:42.49 | Tarragon | As long as D doesn't say that |
| 09:43.17 | Tarragon | ibot SpudULike |
| 09:43.18 | | methinks spudulike is gets worried by the term 34 weeks. But don't ask him about it, he'll start to wimper |
| 09:43.59 | cup | morning |
| 09:44.00 | dank_work | 34 weeks? |
| 09:44.04 | SpudUAway | There are 7 alternative descriptions of me in ibot, what luck for that one to appear. |
| 09:44.13 | dank_work | ibot SpudUAway |
| 09:44.13 | | spuduaway is probably smoking crack. SpudULike |
| 09:44.20 | dank_work | ibot SpudULike |
| 09:44.21 | | somebody said spudulike was gets worried by the term 34 weeks. But don't ask him about it, he'll start to wimper |
| 09:44.35 | SpudUAway | ibot stop rubbing it in. |
| 09:44.36 | | SpudUAway: no idea |
| 09:44.39 | dank_work | :) |
| 09:44.43 | dank_work | ibot SpudULike |
| 09:44.44 | | methinks spudulike is gets worried by the term 34 weeks. But don't ask him about it, he'll start to wimper |
| 09:44.54 | Tarragon | :-) |
| 09:44.58 | SpudUAway | Alright, who's fiddled with ibot? |
| 09:45.09 | dank_work | ibot fiddle |
| 09:45.11 | | dank_work: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 09:46.00 | Tarragon | ibot fiddle is something done by Huhn |
| 09:46.01 | | Tarragon: okay |
| 09:46.09 | dank_work | ibot fiddle |
| 09:46.10 | | well, fiddle is something done by Huhn |
| 09:46.20 | Tarragon | ibot fiddle is also some to do to expense claims |
| 09:46.20 | | Tarragon: okay |
| 09:46.26 | dank_work | ibot fiddle |
| 09:46.27 | | fiddle is, like, something done by Huhn, or some to do to expense claims |
| 09:46.45 | dank_work | How do you get ibot to select a random description? |
| 09:46.53 | SpudUAway | ibot huhn |
| 09:46.54 | | huhn is, like, avoiding the tax man. |
| 09:47.00 | Tarragon | ibot forget fiddle |
| 09:48.47 | Tarragon | ibot dank_work |
| 09:48.48 | | Tarragon: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 09:49.11 | Tarragon | ibot dankolb |
| 09:49.12 | | Tarragon: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 09:49.30 | SpudUAway | Time to own up Dan, are you? |
| 09:49.56 | dpash | ibot dpash |
| 09:49.57 | | dpash: i don't know |
| 09:50.00 | dpash | bah |
| 09:50.43 | Tarragon | ibot dankolb is a Moc OS X user | somewhere just west of you |
| 09:50.44 | | Tarragon: okay |
| 09:50.53 | Tarragon | ibot dankolb |
| 09:50.53 | | well, dankolb is a Moc OS X user | somewhere just west of you |
| 09:51.10 | SpudUAway | two of them. |
| 09:51.13 | dank_work | I'm larger than a breadbox |
| 09:51.32 | dank_work | ibot forget dankolb |
| 09:51.32 | | i forgot dankolb, dank_work |
| 09:51.57 | dank_work | ibot dankolb is a MacOS X user || a BSD user |
| 09:51.58 | | okay, dank_work |
| 09:52.01 | dank_work | ibot dankolb |
| 09:52.02 | | from memory, dankolb is a MacOS X user |
| 09:52.02 | SpudUAway | I thought you were a real OS X user? |
| 09:52.32 | dank_work | So would I type in 'ibot dankolb is also || foo' ? |
| 09:53.11 | Tarragon | I thought the pipe gave random answers |
| 09:53.36 | dank_work | It does |
| 09:53.40 | dank_work | But if you want to add more in? |
| 09:53.49 | dank_work | ibot dankolb is also sometimes dank_work |
| 09:53.50 | | dank_work: okay |
| 09:53.52 | dank_work | ibot dankolb |
| 09:53.53 | | i guess dankolb is a BSD user, or sometimes dank_work |
| 09:54.00 | dank_work | ibot dankolb |
| 09:54.05 | | i heard dankolb is a BSD user, or sometimes dank_work |
| 09:55.37 | dank_work | Yeah, but if you want to add more... |
| 09:55.53 | SpudUAway | You can't really add more, just keep a text file for 'reimplementation'. |
| 09:56.04 | dank_work | Ah, right |
| 09:56.16 | SpudUAway | Except I've lost my text file. |
| 09:56.42 | dank_work | Aww |
| 09:58.02 | SpudUAway | Odd, seems to work in private chat with ibot. |
| 09:58.05 | SpudUAway | SpudULike |
| 09:58.10 | dank_work | hmm |
| 09:58.19 | SpudUAway | ibot SpudULike |
| 09:58.20 | | extra, extra, read all about it, spudulike is often to be found looking for his lost marbles. or a man not to be messed with! |
| 09:59.55 | SpudUAway | You do realise that I'm always having private chats with ibot, don't you? |
| 10:01.08 | dank_work | Yeah. |
| 10:01.11 | dank_work | ibot is your friend |
| 10:01.11 | | dank_work: I give up, what is it? |
| 10:04.05 | dank_work | ibot is also your friend |
| 10:04.05 | | dank_work: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 10:05.56 | SpudUAway | In fact you can add alternatives, just do #ibot x is also || anotherfactoid |
| 10:06.21 | dank_work | It doesn't quite work that way |
| 10:06.32 | dank_work | They you get, 'foo is bar, or ' |
| 10:06.32 | SpudUAway | Hmm, did for me. |
| 10:06.55 | SpudUAway | <SpudUAway> SpudULike is also || Having fun with Ibot. |
| 10:07.02 | SpudUAway | <ibot> from memory, spudulike is Having fun with Ibot. |
| 10:07.07 | dank_work | Hmm |
| 10:08.29 | SpudUAway | But there still is no way to delete a specific alternative factoid, so you still need to keep'em handy. |
| 10:08.40 | dank_work | Hm. It does work. |
| 10:08.47 | dank_work | Odd. anyway... |
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| 10:39.47 | dank_work | Hi Davilion |
| 10:40.19 | Davilion | morning |
| 10:43.31 | Davilion | How are you doing? |
| 10:43.56 | dank_work | Better |
| 10:44.56 | Davilion | Good good. |
| 10:46.19 | dank_work | Still feeling stabbed in the back, but that's not going to change |
| 10:47.04 | Davilion | yeah wounds like that take a long time to heal from my experiences |
| 10:49.21 | dank_work | Yeah. I'm okay. But I'm always going to hate zimm, and don't think that I'm going to like Jenson again |
| 10:56.19 | Davilion | thats understandable |
| 10:59.02 | dank_work | :-) |
| 11:00.01 | Davilion | im chronically bored today |
| 11:00.11 | Davilion | I have lots of things to do but cant do them because i have no system |
| 11:00.19 | dank_work | Aww |
| 11:00.23 | dank_work | Spend the day on IRC then :) |
| 11:00.39 | Davilion | thats my plan |
| 11:00.46 | Davilion | im going to go and see ac ustomer around 2pm |
| 11:00.52 | dank_work | You don't want to do that.. |
| 11:05.28 | Davilion | i know, but i have to |
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| 11:12.08 | dank_work | hi |
| 11:12.13 | dank_work | VMWare is nice |
| 11:15.30 | SpudUAway | I've had to xkill kmail, now I can't get it to restart. Is this likely to be because there is a lock file floating about. If so, where do lock files live? |
| 11:19.40 | Davilion | SpudUAway: try in /tmp/ there may well be stuff in there, or your mailbox could be locked also. |
| 11:19.58 | Davilion | vmware is lovely, its a bit unstable sometimes but its good for testing out installers and the like. |
| 11:20.07 | Davilion | except my laptop hasnt got enough ram to cope with it |
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| 11:25.04 | dank_work | SPLITTER |
| 11:31.21 | murble | you're in wycombe atm? |
| 11:31.45 | dank_work | Loudwater, yeah |
| 11:35.06 | Davilion | anybody use spamassassin here? |
| 11:35.13 | dank_work | Yeah |
| 11:36.44 | Davilion | any good? |
| 11:37.55 | Davilion | i take it i just pipe all incoming mail through spamassasin in my procmailrc? |
| 11:37.58 | dank_work | yeah |
| 11:38.10 | dank_work | can do - I do it at smtp time |
| 11:41.32 | murble | When i was running it, razor broke and i ened up with a load average > 100 with failed and boucned deliveries. |
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| 11:41.41 | dank_work | wb SpudUAway |
| 11:46.12 | Davilion | what would you recommened? runnign it via exim or via procmail? |
| 11:46.19 | SpudUAway | tyvvm |
| 11:49.45 | dank_work | :) |
| 11:50.20 | Davilion | what mta are you using? |
| 11:50.35 | dank_work | But I have a slight issue whereby it doesn't set the headers correctly (i.e. X-Spam-Status: No, Hits: 7.0) |
| 11:50.57 | dank_work | So I then run it through procmail, which adds another header, which I then filter on |
| 12:15.51 | Davilion | heh im on the phone to bt again |
| 12:16.01 | Davilion | and i can hear the critical exclaimation sound in the bacground again |
| 12:16.12 | dank_work | BONG! |
| 12:19.30 | Davilion | hmm they have lost my address completely now |
| 12:19.36 | Davilion | apaprently i phoned up to cancel my order last night |
| 12:19.38 | Davilion | i most deifnatly didnt |
| 12:19.50 | Davilion | so i asked them how somebody could phone up and cancel and they said they couldnt |
| 12:19.59 | Davilion | so i said what time was it canceled and tehy couldnt tell me |
| 12:20.06 | Davilion | so i asked to speak to amanager and they were busy |
| 12:20.34 | Davilion | so said i was a bit alarmed that somebody could phone up and pretend to be me with no access to my personal details and not get vetted by any sercurity quuestions. |
| 12:20.40 | Davilion | and that didnt get me anywhere |
| 12:20.52 | Davilion | so what im finding strange is now they can't find my address on the sysytem |
| 12:20.58 | Davilion | but i gave them a work number and it came up as cancelled |
| 12:21.12 | dank_work | Odd |
| 12:21.22 | Davilion | so what i want to know is why they can't un cancel it, or at least get trhe information from that job and create a new job |
| 12:21.42 | Davilion | and now im back on hold whilst he finds somebody who can find out if there has ever been a line active in the building |
| 12:21.49 | Davilion | but there are 3 lines already active in the building |
| 12:21.52 | dank_work | This is BT customer disservice you're talking about... |
| 12:22.05 | Davilion | yes thats right, theyr' customer ooptions team whatever that is |
| 12:22.23 | Davilion | and it might cost me 79 pounds to get a line in. |
| 12:22.26 | Davilion | which strikes me as odd. |
| 12:22.44 | dank_work | yeah |
| 12:23.26 | Davilion | soothing music on their holding system though |
| 12:23.32 | dank_work | You need it |
| 12:23.33 | dank_work | :) |
| 12:23.34 | Davilion | but this is just totally stupid |
| 12:25.07 | dank_work | What music is it? |
| 12:25.26 | Davilion | what i find amusing is yesturday it was (After they found my ?house) 'no preoblem sir, active by 5pm sir, tennerish a month sir, ex directory sir' now its, who are you? kenilworth |
| 12:25.30 | Davilion | ? |
| 12:25.37 | dank_work | :) |
| 12:26.14 | Davilion | apparently since they can't find my line its going to cost 79 quid |
| 12:26.15 | Davilion | grrr |
| 12:26.23 | dank_work | That sucks. |
| 13:01.02 | Davilion | right |
| 13:01.05 | Davilion | im off to nottingham |
| 13:01.07 | Davilion | later |
| 13:01.14 | dank_work | Later |
| 13:01.17 | dank_work | Enjoy :) |
| 13:02.42 | dank_work | hi Huhn |
| 13:03.26 | Huhn | hiho |
| 13:05.27 | dank_work | How goes? |
| 13:06.04 | Huhn | *cough* |
| 13:06.09 | Huhn | not too bad |
| 13:06.27 | Huhn | better then yesterday :) how are you, dank_work? |
| 13:06.37 | dank_work | Much better. |
| 13:07.24 | Huhn | that's good ;) |
| 13:07.26 | dank_work | Not feeling depressed or anything any more |
| 13:07.31 | dank_work | (at least not yet) |
| 13:07.35 | Huhn | cool |
| 13:07.42 | dank_work | :) |
| 13:07.45 | dank_work | Thanks :) |
| 13:08.14 | dank_work | But I think I'm going to end up keeping a hatred for zimm, and a dislike for Jenson |
| 13:08.51 | dank_work | Other than that, I'm good :) |
| 13:09.13 | Huhn | mh, give it some time, "hate" is maybe a bit too strong.. see how you're feeling in one week |
| 13:09.36 | dank_work | Hopefully in one week I won't be in the country |
| 13:11.36 | Huhn | Canada? |
| 13:11.39 | dank_work | But it's one of these feelings that isn't going to shift. Not that I mind. |
| 13:11.41 | dank_work | Yeah :) |
| 13:11.53 | Huhn | cool.. skiing? |
| 13:11.59 | dank_work | I have far better and more worthwhile friends around. |
| 13:12.03 | dank_work | Yup. |
| 13:12.11 | dank_work | Hopefully in Quebec - Mont Tremblant |
| 13:12.18 | dank_work | It's a really nice place |
| 13:12.18 | Huhn | I'd love to go to Canada |
| 13:12.25 | dank_work | You should come, then :0 |
| 13:12.26 | dank_work | :) |
| 13:12.42 | Huhn | I'm going to Tux, remember? |
| 13:12.45 | dank_work | True. |
| 13:12.46 | Huhn | maybe next year |
| 13:12.48 | dank_work | Maybe next year |
| 13:12.48 | dank_work | :) |
| 13:12.52 | Huhn | :)) |
| 13:13.19 | Huhn | *patsch* ;) |
| 13:13.20 | dank_work | Tremblant is only one mountain, but lots of ski trails |
| 13:13.36 | dank_work | Of all difficulties |
| 13:14.26 | Huhn | :) |
| 13:14.28 | Huhn | soudns nice |
| 13:14.34 | dank_work | It's very nice |
| 13:14.43 | dank_work | And they even have a micro-brewery in the village there |
| 13:15.04 | dank_work | http://www.tremblant.com |
| 13:15.45 | Huhn | will have a look, thanks, but now: coffeeeeeee |
| 13:15.55 | dank_work | Heh :) |
| 13:45.22 | *** join/#gllug highbury (~steve@sc-gw4.homechoice.co.uk) |
| 13:45.35 | dank_work | Hi highbury |
| 13:45.45 | highbury | hi guys |
| 13:46.46 | highbury | well today, was a day I was happy to be not working :-) laaaaze in bed, ignore phones, just chill :-) |
| 13:47.02 | dank_work | Nice :) |
| 13:48.44 | dank_work | Quick coffe |
| 13:48.46 | dank_work | +e |
| 13:48.57 | Huhn | hi highbury |
| 13:49.01 | Huhn | dank_work: yes.. |
| 14:04.25 | highbury | hi Huhn |
| 14:04.27 | murble | highbury: how is the job looking for market? |
| 14:04.30 | highbury | Hi dank_work |
| 14:04.59 | highbury | vellly velly slow murble :-( |
| 14:10.26 | murble | oh :( |
| 14:10.55 | eye69 | Anybody experienced in soldering? |
| 14:11.07 | eye69 | Especially SMT. |
| 14:12.25 | Tarragon | eye69: Done a little. Why? |
| 14:13.58 | eye69 | Tarragon: I need to change one or possibly two chips in a Sony 21" monitor. It was struck by lightning a few months ago and it's probably the first chip on the input pipeline that took the blow. |
| 14:14.20 | eye69 | I know. |
| 14:14.32 | eye69 | The tube is fine. I'm going to contact Mitsubishi and see if I can get hold of the chip(s) in question. |
| 14:14.55 | eye69 | Tarragon: Have you done any SMT stuff? |
| 14:15.25 | eye69 | If it wasn't for the surface mounting I wouldn't have any problems in doing it myself. |
| 14:16.40 | Tarragon | Easiest way to desolder is to use a heatgun, Actually if replacing chips just cut them then you need a very good needle point 12V iron. Absolute pain to do. Commercially they use a microwaveable solder paste as you don't want too much heat on the chip for too long. |
| 14:17.03 | eye69 | I've got a professional 24V 150-480C iron. |
| 14:17.09 | eye69 | Digital thermostat |
| 14:18.03 | Tarragon | Yes - forth site? |
| 14:18.10 | dank_work | Yeah |
| 14:18.23 | dank_work | The assembler code looks really quite nice and clean |
| 14:19.53 | Tarragon | OK cut chips away. tin new chips will be easier than trying to apply on board. Heat at tip. In lab we would cool a chip while soldering by putting a cut piece of potato on the chip. I was never sure if this worked or just a stupid routine we did. |
| 14:21.43 | eye69 | Yeah, it seems to be cuttable |
| 14:23.44 | eye69 | I guess I'll solder two corner legs on opposite sides so that it stays in place? |
| 14:23.44 | dank_work | Tarragon: Is it worth learning Forth? |
| 14:24.06 | Tarragon | SMT solder is 188 but flux activation needs 200 Set your iron to about 280 so the tip area will melt and max 4s heating |
| 14:24.34 | eye69 | Solder one or a couple of legs at a time and let the chip cool in between? |
| 14:24.49 | Tarragon | dank_work: Commercially these days no. Very specialized. For fun - yeah. cool stuff. |
| 14:25.04 | eye69 | I'm going to get hold of a 0.4mm tip for the soldering station. |
| 14:25.06 | dank_work | :) |
| 14:25.07 | dank_work | Cool |
| 14:25.19 | Tarragon | I would step solder. pin 1, pin 5 pin 10... |
| 14:25.31 | eye69 | Ok. |
| 14:26.22 | eye69 | When it comes to fault localisation I'm guessing that the input logic took the blow, since it still displays "no input" when it is plugged in. It happened during a thunderstorm. |
| 14:26.44 | Tarragon | The problem is smt is a real pain. A commercial through hole iron is 5K+ and even then errors will occur. |
| 14:27.08 | eye69 | Tarragon: http://www.velleman.be/Product.asp?lan=1&id=18582 |
| 14:27.55 | Tarragon | Don't know. you really need to scope out the boards. monitors are such a pain to do. |
| 14:28.02 | Tarragon | Nice iron |
| 14:29.00 | eye69 | Good enough I guess. |
| 14:29.23 | eye69 | I can get 1.6, 0.8 and 0.4 tips. |
| 14:30.12 | eye69 | Anyway, I'm going to ring Mitsubishi and see if they can supply chips. |
| 14:30.21 | Tarragon | .4 will probably need about 285 temp setting. Let it warm up and stabilize. |
| 14:30.52 | eye69 | Thanks very much for your kind support. |
| 14:31.07 | eye69 | Don't think I'll be placing any spuds on it though. :) |
| 14:31.21 | Tarragon | Might be easier to ask Sony to repair it. They will just swap board and then claim they changed the chips but you would know it works. |
| 14:31.51 | eye69 | I've checked with TS Electronics in Lakeside...they want around £200... |
| 14:31.55 | eye69 | It's not worth it |
| 14:32.25 | eye69 | I've got a grounding wrist strap too. |
| 14:36.32 | eye69 | Mitsubishi directs me to Sony. |
| 14:53.22 | eye69 | Tarragon: Chips ordered |
| 14:53.34 | eye69 | 5.75 for the first one and 29 for the second one |
| 14:53.35 | Tarragon | cool |
| 14:53.44 | eye69 | Sonys service center in Heathrow |
| 14:54.33 | eye69 | Would take about 8 weeks to get one of them, but since the monitor has been broken since last summer it's not that big of a hassle... :) |
| 15:42.31 | Clyphox | re |
| 15:42.46 | Clyphox | I just woke up at 2 |
| 15:43.32 | dank_work | hey Clyphox |
| 15:43.36 | dank_work | What's the matter? |
| 15:44.23 | Clyphox | Just generally fscked |
| 15:44.28 | dank_work | Ah :-/ |
| 15:44.29 | Clyphox | Needed sleep for one. |
| 15:44.36 | dank_work | Always good |
| 15:44.54 | Clyphox | This box is going dodgy on me.. |
| 15:45.18 | Clyphox | X wouldn't start and I had to actually "cold" boot it to get it going.. |
| 15:45.23 | dank_work | Bwah |
| 15:45.31 | Clyphox | Must just be the 2nd hand Nvidia I nicked at work I think |
| 15:45.36 | dank_work | yeah |
| 15:46.04 | Clyphox | I'm gonna nick a Matrox 400 thats been kicking around for over a year tomorrow and try that |
| 15:46.09 | dank_work | :) |
| 15:46.11 | dank_work | Far better. |
| 15:46.19 | Clyphox | why not.. else it gets wasted after all |
| 15:47.21 | dank_work | :) |
| 15:47.31 | Clyphox | I'm trying to get some life out of an all TX-pro mobo and setup netBSD on it to be my new server when I go to Aberdeen |
| 15:48.17 | Clyphox | I'm not sure if I want to or not but I've said I'm going to go round to a guy who lives 2min walk from my place this evening.. |
| 15:48.26 | Clyphox | Gonna install something on his Sparc |
| 15:48.37 | dank_work | :) |
| 15:49.17 | Clyphox | Got a Solaris 2.6 and netbsd and Splack on CD now.. |
| 15:49.38 | Clyphox | He's so passionate about getting into "unix" (he didn't even know you can run "unix" on x86 hehe) that I don't think I'm gonna be able to buy is sparc off him hehe |
| 15:50.38 | Clyphox | I'm tempted to throw him in the deap end with Solaris... |
| 15:50.58 | Clyphox | But the portstree seems like a good thing to show off.. |
| 15:51.26 | Clyphox | Hope he's got net so I can irc and get help.. (Never touched Sparc or Solaris before hehe) |
| 15:52.29 | dank_work | :) |
| 15:52.37 | dank_work | Both are cool |
| 15:52.51 | dank_work | I should be callable if you want - not sure if I'd be much help though |
| 15:53.18 | Clyphox | Gonna be fun.. Just that I'm not in the mood atm.. wanna tidy my room and get my netBSD boxen doing postfix |
| 15:55.38 | murble | does DJB pay you to say that every hour? |
| 15:55.56 | dank_work | It's a bit of extra beer money |
| 15:56.08 | dank_work | :) |
| 15:57.52 | Clyphox | I like postfix |
| 15:58.04 | Clyphox | Its such a small worls |
| 15:58.17 | dank_work | :) |
| 15:58.17 | Clyphox | Then on Thu last week had a guy come into our shop asking for a copy of Solaris |
| 15:58.27 | dank_work | Yeah |
| 15:58.30 | Clyphox | Then it turn out he lives 2min down the road from me. Now I'm going round his pace tonight maybe to install netbsd/Splack or Sol2.6 |
| 15:58.43 | Clyphox | And there is another GLLUG member who started dating my sister and he only lives 3min down the road form me |
| 15:58.55 | Clyphox | All in all there must be 4 of us now within 3 block radius.. |
| 15:59.01 | Clyphox | All within the last 2 months.. (as I'm leaving as well :(( ) |
| 15:59.05 | Clyphox | sucky |
| 15:59.10 | Clyphox | Make friend then leave.. |
| 15:59.24 | Clyphox | I would have stayed had I gone to GLLUG earlier.. :( |
| 15:59.25 | dank_work | C'est la vie |
| 15:59.31 | Clyphox | well.. maybe.. |
| 15:59.45 | dpash | ibot: lart qmail |
| 16:00.01 | Clyphox | dpash: lart ibot |
| 16:01.17 | Clyphox | fuq |
| 16:01.31 | Clyphox | just got burned by a CPU heatsink |
| 16:01.42 | Clyphox | It shouldn't have been on.. :( my bad.. |
| 16:01.49 | dank_work | :( |
| 16:02.11 | Clyphox | Lets home the cpu survived.. |
| 16:10.02 | Clyphox | I'm not sure if I'm gonna flog my duely now.. having conscidered the joys of ripping a dvd->divx at 2000 in realtime |
| 16:10.11 | *** part/#gllug Huhn (~huhn@guru164.netsonic.fi) |
| 16:10.23 | dank_work | :) |
| 16:10.34 | Clyphox | Plus I'm gonna be starting a Linux UrbanTerror Clan sometime.. |
| 16:10.47 | dank_work | You're addicted to that game |
| 16:11.02 | Clyphox | didn't I mention that? |
| 16:11.06 | Clyphox | ;-) |
| 16:11.08 | dank_work | :) |
| 16:11.22 | Clyphox | Look at the screen shots at urbanterror.net |
| 16:11.57 | Clyphox | I have had the luxury of taking something like 40% headshots in the last week.. thanks to learning how to get some cool FPS outta a second X |
| 16:12.06 | dank_work | :) |
| 16:14.10 | Clyphox | is it true that you HAVE to list your street address now ehnever registering a domain now? |
| 16:14.58 | murble | in theory |
| 16:15.36 | Clyphox | I was hoping to use a PO box :( |
| 16:15.54 | dank_work | Use a different Registrar, then... |
| 16:16.11 | Clyphox | Its internic afaik |
| 16:16.26 | Clyphox | I don't care I just heard it somewhere.. |
| 16:16.47 | murble | dank: it is an ICANN thing. |
| 16:16.57 | Clyphox | gtg.. bbiam |
| 16:17.11 | murble | nominet not having signed up to any of that crap let you withhold your details in whois. |
| 16:17.13 | dank_work | ah |
| 16:25.52 | Clyphox | good good |
| 16:36.41 | Clyphox | Ohh.. down time.. need some RAM |
| 16:36.47 | dank_work | Heh |
| 16:36.49 | dank_work | What fun |
| 16:36.59 | Clyphox | Joyous Rapture! |
| 16:37.51 | Clyphox | I got a bag full'o EDO |
| 16:38.05 | Clyphox | But no matter what I can.. I have no SD-RAM |
| 16:46.05 | eye69 | I need EDO |
| 16:48.25 | Clyphox|no-ram | eye69, Speek to resuDead.. I've got a big bad of EDo.. he's got it atm |
| 16:48.48 | Clyphox | I/he will bring it to the next meeting and you can raid it ok? |
| 16:49.35 | Clyphox | being the typical "monkey" I am.. I've only got one keyb and have to use in on another box atm (last AT died ok..) |
| 16:50.04 | dank_work | :) |
| 16:50.12 | Clyphox|nokeybOK | :) |
| 16:53.06 | Clyphox|nokeybOK | what do you know.. after burning that CPU without a fan for 30min (mistake) it still works.. |
| 16:53.20 | Clyphox|nokeybOK | do that with a Athlon |
| 16:57.54 | eye69 | Actually, what I need is a small ATX case. I've already got a PSU. |
| 16:58.03 | eye69 | Got a mobo with CPU lying around. |
| 16:58.26 | Clyphox | I can get you new stuff retail if you need.. |
| 16:58.37 | Clyphox | Only have an AT box spair. |
| 16:59.11 | Davilion | Another satisfied customer |
| 16:59.12 | Clyphox | wb.. I tihnk |
| 16:59.38 | Clyphox | And some girls think "their" sex is too fast |
| 16:59.59 | Davilion | lmao. |
| 17:00.05 | Clyphox | :-) |
| 17:00.16 | Clyphox | There are three guys talking bouth sex ... |
| 17:00.27 | Clyphox | The frist guy.. (a Frenchie) sais: |
| 17:00.47 | Clyphox | Last Night I mad love to my Wife three times.. afterwards she said : |
| 17:00.55 | Clyphox | I love you eternally |
| 17:01.17 | Clyphox | The Second guy.. (a Britt) Sais: |
| 17:01.36 | Clyphox | Last Night I made love to My wife 5 times and after she said : |
| 17:01.54 | Clyphox | I'm your forever AND I'll never want another man.. |
| 17:02.07 | Clyphox | The Third guy.. (a South African off course) said: |
| 17:02.14 | Clyphox | Well I only made love to my wife once... |
| 17:02.18 | Clyphox | (deadly silence) |
| 17:02.32 | Clyphox | When asked what she said he responded : |
| 17:02.51 | Clyphox | She said this morning : |
| 17:02.54 | Clyphox | don't stop. |
| 17:02.59 | Davilion | heh |
| 17:03.00 | Clyphox | </lame joke> |
| 17:03.03 | dank_work | Heh |
| 17:03.04 | dank_work | :) |
| 17:04.20 | Davilion | hmm, flowers havent arrived :( |
| 17:05.11 | dank_work | When did you send them? |
| 17:06.38 | Davilion | ordered them on tuesday supposed to arrive today |
| 17:07.49 | Clyphox | What's she like? |
| 17:08.00 | Clyphox | (assuming its a she) |
| 17:08.22 | Davilion | she's nice :) |
| 17:08.36 | dank_work | :) |
| 17:08.37 | Davilion | known her for years, but just got in touch again in feb. |
| 17:09.32 | Clyphox | Thats nice :) |
| 17:09.45 | dank_work | ibot insult David Damerell |
| 17:09.59 | Clyphox | lol |
| 17:10.27 | Davilion | heh, nice insult. |
| 17:11.55 | Davilion | ibot insult british telecom |
| 17:12.05 | Davilion | ibot kill bt |
| 17:12.07 | | ACTION slits bt's throat |
| 17:12.31 | Davilion | i couldnt have said it better myself. |
| 17:12.36 | dank_work | :) |
| 17:13.52 | dank_work | :) |
| 17:14.23 | Davilion | they are just so useless, they couldnt organise a shag in a brothel let alone my internet access |
| 17:14.25 | Davilion | grrr |
| 17:14.39 | dank_work | Don't worry about it too much |
| 17:14.43 | dank_work | It's only 'net access |
| 17:14.53 | Davilion | its easy for you to say, your not the one without net access |
| 17:15.13 | dank_work | One quick firewall rule, and I can be without it |
| 17:15.21 | Davilion | if i'm away from the internet for more than a few hours i get withdrawn and very crotchety |
| 17:15.33 | dank_work | Crochet? |
| 17:15.37 | dank_work | That's a nice hobby, dear. |
| 17:15.40 | Davilion | dankwork has quit (no route to host) |
| 17:15.48 | dank_work | Hmm.. |
| 17:15.49 | Davilion | perhaps its a scottish thing... |
| 17:15.56 | dank_work | irssi highlighted that |
| 17:16.00 | Clyphox|nokeybOK | ibot insult ibot |
| 17:16.24 | Davilion | crotchety like crotch with the latter half of yetty on the end. |
| 17:16.42 | Davilion | means crabby, or grumpy, or the result of david without broadband. |
| 17:16.48 | dank_work | I know. |
| 17:18.30 | Clyphox | Should I use Obsd of Nbsd? |
| 17:18.36 | dank_work | Open |
| 17:18.46 | Clyphox | Is netbsd not as secure? |
| 17:18.59 | dank_work | Not quite, I don't think. |
| 17:19.03 | dank_work | Plus I like Open :) |
| 17:19.14 | Clyphox | lol |
| 17:19.28 | Clyphox | I'm just thinking about making a floopy and sticking it in.. |
| 17:19.42 | dank_work | Oooh. Suits you, sir. |
| 17:20.26 | Clyphox | :( |
| 17:20.46 | Clyphox | whats the point of dual CPU if bzip2/gzip still only use one.. |
| 17:20.58 | Clyphox | Surely I don't have to recompile my entire userland |
| 17:21.16 | Clyphox | Wonder how netBSD's smp support it comming along.. |
| 17:21.58 | dank_work | Because bzip2/gzip are only single threaded? |
| 17:22.38 | Clyphox | prolly.. don't understand it all myself.. |
| 17:22.50 | Davilion | Clyphox: use debian. |
| 17:23.08 | dank_work | ibot lart Davilion |
| 17:23.17 | dank_work | Slackware! |
| 17:23.19 | Clyphox | Davilion: hehe |
| 17:23.35 | Clyphox | Davilion: as long as Slackware boots I'll use it |
| 17:23.52 | Clyphox | Davilion: plus there is a quake3-smp *8-) |
| 17:23.58 | Clyphox | so the important things are ok |
| 17:24.29 | dank_work | :) |
| 17:25.42 | Clyphox | I love the structure of netBSD |
| 17:26.08 | dank_work | OpenBSD forked off from NetBSD, so they share quite a bit of codebase |
| 17:26.11 | Clyphox | Its so modular.. The driver for a NIC for example entirely excludes coe for the BUS as after all.. that is separte.. |
| 17:26.42 | Clyphox | means they can port to new arch's quite easily :-) |
| 17:26.53 | dank_work | That's the idea. |
| 17:26.58 | dank_work | At the expense of some speed |
| 17:27.11 | Clyphox | Still better than NT I'm sure :-) |
| 17:27.21 | Clyphox | There seems to be a new IIS worm out |
| 17:27.32 | Clyphox | My webserver got attacked over 212 times on 4 hours |
| 17:27.36 | dank_work | The original design for NT was really nice and solid. But not overly fast because of it. |
| 17:27.53 | dank_work | So the marketing people told the designers to move things around a bit, stick more stuff in kernel space. |
| 17:27.59 | dank_work | Which made it less stable |
| 17:28.01 | dank_work | But faster |
| 17:28.08 | Clyphox | cat /var/log/apache/access_log | grep -c "%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090801%u9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u0000%u00=a" |
| 17:28.08 | Clyphox | 271 |
| 17:29.23 | Clyphox | <- home alone!! |
| 17:29.37 | dank_work | Aww |
| 17:29.55 | Clyphox | nothing better than a Motohead cover by Mettalica! |
| 17:30.01 | dank_work | Hehe. |
| 17:30.27 | Clyphox | I think I know what song I want played at my funeral |
| 17:30.38 | Clyphox | Motorhead - Killed by death! |
| 17:30.42 | Clyphox | its great.. |
| 17:30.46 | Clyphox | Killed by Death!!! |
| 17:30.51 | Clyphox | Yeah! |
| 17:31.39 | dank_work | Heh |
| 17:31.43 | Clyphox | I like the idea of putting the ppl at my funeral though a little musical education.. |
| 17:32.09 | dank_work | :-) |
| 17:32.17 | Clyphox | Force them to listen.. "in repect of me" MUHAHAH |
| 17:32.24 | dank_work | respec'? |
| 17:32.32 | Clyphox | well I'm dead u c.. |
| 17:32.56 | Clyphox | so they have no choice.. just put it in my will and I'm sure they will |
| 17:33.03 | dank_work | Heh |
| 17:33.08 | Clyphox | I might even include a URl where to download it hehe |
| 17:33.17 | murble | ohhm students load company owes me 33 quid. |
| 17:33.25 | murble | s/load/loans/ |
| 17:33.32 | Clyphox | I don't want a headstone and all the crap.. I want a webserver thats always on till the year 3000 or summin |
| 17:33.37 | dank_work | Beers on murble next meet! |
| 17:33.48 | Clyphox | ohh yeah :) |
| 17:33.51 | dank_work | Clyphox: Hah. Not on a PC you won't |
| 17:34.04 | murble | i wonder if they'll give me RPI interst on it for the time they had it or 0.00232332 a day. |
| 17:35.07 | Davilion | heh |
| 17:39.00 | Clyphox | hmm.. my fdd doesn't seem to work... |
| 17:39.05 | dank_work | Aww |
| 17:39.18 | dank_work | Have you broken it? |
| 17:39.29 | Clyphox | Never used it.. ever |
| 17:39.35 | Clyphox | Nothing I have is new anyway.. |
| 17:41.33 | dank_work | Ah well |
| 17:46.52 | Davilion | new guy took all my details again, didnt tell him i'd ever spokent o them in the passed |
| 17:46.58 | dank_work | :) |
| 17:47.00 | Davilion | no problem sir, should be on by tommorow sir. |
| 17:47.04 | Davilion | no reconnection chrage :) |
| 17:47.15 | dank_work | Nice |
| 17:47.29 | Davilion | don't you love big companies, since everybody follows the same beurocratic procedures your garunteed the same cost effective answer from anybody. |
| 17:47.43 | Davilion | of course the proof of the pudding will be when my line is re-enabled or not. |
| 17:47.52 | Clyphox | really should try freedon2surf |
| 17:47.53 | dank_work | Yeah |
| 17:48.13 | Davilion | freedon2surf? |
| 17:48.17 | Clyphox | They are really small but highly efficient and nice.. only 22.50 per month |
| 17:48.21 | Clyphox | ISp |
| 17:48.24 | Davilion | cool. |
| 17:48.30 | Clyphox | are my lines crossed? |
| 17:48.38 | Clyphox | I got connected in 3 days |
| 17:48.41 | dank_work | :) |
| 17:48.42 | Davilion | i've still not decided on isp yet, im habing enough problem just getting ap phone like in. |
| 17:48.47 | dank_work | Heh. |
| 17:48.52 | Clyphox | Always get though to the same person when I call too |
| 17:49.06 | dank_work | It's a one-man outfit? |
| 17:49.12 | Clyphox | no hehe |
| 17:49.28 | Davilion | heheh |
| 17:49.45 | Clyphox | But I've personally installed ADSL in over 20 of my customers and freedom2surf is leagues ahead of everyone else |
| 17:50.31 | Clyphox | reminds me abit of what freeserver and demon were like in their young days.. |
| 17:50.36 | Clyphox | anyhow.. gtg.. |
| 17:50.51 | dank_work | Heh |
| 17:51.24 | Davilion | yay |
| 17:51.26 | Davilion | hometiem |
| 17:57.59 | dank_work | Time to go home |
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| 18:12.41 | cup | night people |
| 18:25.48 | Clyphox | I'm off to go try install something on a sparc :-) |
| 18:25.59 | Clyphox | Cya all laters.. |
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| 18:36.55 | Jenson | hey formi |
| 18:37.11 | formi | hello |
| 18:37.53 | formi | ibot: seen itsbruce? |
| 18:37.54 | | formi: i haven't seen 'itsbruce' |
| 18:37.59 | formi | ibot: seen its-bruce? |
| 18:38.00 | | i haven't seen 'its-bruce', formi |
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| 19:29.15 | Jenson | evening |
| 19:29.20 | zimm | :) |
| 19:29.31 | Jenson | :) |
| 20:07.03 | highbury | Tarragon: FYI I've accepted the offer to talk at that seminar, now just have to find out if its paid :-) |
| 20:07.19 | Jenson | heya highbury |
| 20:10.04 | zimm | awww] |
| 20:10.15 | Jenson | :) |
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| 20:10.46 | Jenson | hello Dan |
| 20:10.55 | dankolb | Hi |
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| 20:12.12 | dankolb | Hi marko85_uk |
| 20:12.12 | Jenson | hey marko85_uk |
| 20:12.13 | marko85_uk | alright gllugers |
| 20:12.14 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 20:12.28 | marko85_uk | hey hey :) how are my favourite people doing |
| 20:12.34 | marko85_uk | i got a question first? |
| 20:12.39 | Jenson | am i a favourite? |
| 20:12.54 | marko85_uk | hell yeah :) (not really hehe) |
| 20:12.58 | dankolb | What's the question, marko85_uk |
| 20:12.58 | Jenson | lol |
| 20:13.08 | marko85_uk | dankolb |
| 20:13.13 | marko85_uk | i can not seem to find the floppy icon |
| 20:13.18 | marko85_uk | in my red hat 8.0 |
| 20:13.22 | dankolb | Open 'My Computer'... :) |
| 20:13.32 | marko85_uk | hehe i tried that |
| 20:13.34 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 20:13.38 | dankolb | Icon? ICON?!? What's wrong with the command line, eh? |
| 20:13.52 | marko85_uk | nothing i love command line its so geeky |
| 20:13.59 | marko85_uk | btw i got my as results today |
| 20:14.01 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 20:14.05 | dankolb | How did you do? |
| 20:14.12 | marko85_uk | i did really well |
| 20:14.20 | marko85_uk | i got two bs and a c |
| 20:14.24 | dankolb | That's okay :) |
| 20:14.27 | Jenson | marko85_uk: Do you have to /query me or do I have to spell out that I don't fancy you |
| 20:14.28 | marko85_uk | but i missed a for 2 marks in my physics |
| 20:14.41 | dankolb | Jenson: But you fancy anything male |
| 20:14.46 | dankolb | marko85_uk: Aww :-/ |
| 20:14.57 | Jenson | dankolb: or female.... |
| 20:14.59 | marko85_uk | and i missed 4 marks of and a in maths |
| 20:15.06 | marko85_uk | jenson i hope u are joking when u said that |
| 20:15.11 | marko85_uk | i just wanted to say hi |
| 20:15.11 | Jenson | marko85_uk: Nope |
| 20:15.27 | Jenson | lol ok then |
| 20:16.35 | marko85_uk | dankolb |
| 20:16.40 | marko85_uk | what do i type in command line |
| 20:16.46 | marko85_uk | to open a file in a floppy |
| 20:16.56 | Jenson | lol i should know this |
| 20:16.59 | Jenson | i use icons lol |
| 20:17.10 | marko85_uk | well lets just say i prefer professional help |
| 20:17.11 | marko85_uk | hehe |
| 20:17.11 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 20:17.18 | Jenson | zimm: Make yourself helpfu to marko85_uk |
| 20:17.25 | Jenson | I need proffessional help |
| 20:17.39 | zimm | Jenson: dont we all hon :P |
| 20:17.43 | marko85_uk | but we are talking about two different kinds of help |
| 20:17.49 | marko85_uk | mental and IT help |
| 20:17.51 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 20:18.00 | Jenson | marko85_uk: yeah, tewll it to my ex-counsellor |
| 20:18.06 | Jenson | and ex mentalnurse |
| 20:18.31 | zimm | Jenson: my counsellor ceased to be of any use when she admitted to being a cocaine user ! lol |
| 20:18.37 | Jenson | lol |
| 20:18.56 | Jenson | mine was an older man who would have loved to blame everything on the way i go about relationships |
| 20:19.03 | Jenson | I think he might have been right but still |
| 20:19.05 | zimm | Jenson: rofl |
| 20:19.10 | marko85_uk | guys what do i type in command line to chang the mouse i have? |
| 20:19.16 | Jenson | i used to goth out 10 imes worse than normal |
| 20:19.24 | Jenson | marko85_uk: wouldnt know, i just changed the mouse lol |
| 20:19.45 | zimm | marko85_uk: the mouse you use is in the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file |
| 20:19.47 | marko85_uk | wiered :) |
| 20:20.04 | Jenson | marko85_uk: dont let him near thwe xconfig |
| 20:20.11 | zimm | you need to edit that directly , o0r run like xf86config or similar from the cl as root .. |
| 20:20.16 | zimm | Jenson: :P |
| 20:20.21 | marko85_uk | ill do that |
| 20:20.23 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 20:20.39 | Jenson | zimm: Don't make me ban you from my computer :P |
| 20:20.40 | marko85_uk | coz i changed my mouse type and it went mental lol |
| 20:20.52 | Jenson | marko85_uk: My mouse is mental, I think its a junkie |
| 20:21.12 | marko85_uk | :) jenson i think u are mental but i still talk to u hehe |
| 20:21.24 | marko85_uk | bro help me how do i open a file on a floppy |
| 20:21.29 | Jenson | marko85_uk: i am mental |
| 20:21.31 | Jenson | i dont know |
| 20:21.36 | Jenson | hang on a sec |
| 20:21.39 | marko85_uk | u are ok :) i seen worst |
| 20:22.25 | Jenson | marko85_uk: Do you have Kwikdisk with RedHat? |
| 20:22.45 | marko85_uk | i dont think i have i didnt notice it |
| 20:23.01 | marko85_uk | i wish my linux was working |
| 20:23.08 | marko85_uk | i like linux it turns me on |
| 20:23.14 | zimm | marko85_uk: you mount your floppy disc in /floppy ? |
| 20:23.19 | Jenson | marko85_uk: You running KDE> |
| 20:23.25 | marko85_uk | i think so |
| 20:23.27 | zimm | if so , put the disc in the drivfe , and type mount /floppy |
| 20:23.39 | marko85_uk | well i got a file on it |
| 20:23.46 | marko85_uk | which i got from internet |
| 20:23.48 | Jenson | zimm: let me help him |
| 20:23.54 | zimm | tehn cd ( or use konq) to get to /floppy ( after mounting the disc) and read the file |
| 20:24.11 | Jenson | zimm: you addicted to the command line |
| 20:24.23 | zimm | he asked about command line Jenson !! |
| 20:24.28 | zimm | didnt he ? |
| 20:24.29 | Jenson | lol |
| 20:24.32 | marko85_uk | i did actually ask about command line |
| 20:24.33 | marko85_uk | hehe |
| 20:24.56 | marko85_uk | people i put a file on a floppy disk from windows on windows formated floppy |
| 20:25.05 | zimm | or you could just right cli9ck on the kde desktop , choose "make new" floppy disc .. |
| 20:25.06 | marko85_uk | now i need to unzip the file on the floppy |
| 20:25.08 | zimm | and err its done . |
| 20:25.10 | marko85_uk | how do i do that |
| 20:25.35 | Jenson | easy |
| 20:25.39 | Jenson | right click |
| 20:25.43 | Jenson | go to cretae new |
| 20:25.46 | marko85_uk | carry on jenson :) |
| 20:25.46 | Jenson | floppy device |
| 20:26.01 | Jenson | and then chose your floppy device |
| 20:26.06 | marko85_uk | ok |
| 20:26.13 | Jenson | zimm: why cant i just see if he has kwikdisc |
| 20:26.15 | marko85_uk | and will i be able to view the file |
| 20:26.18 | Jenson | wb dankolb |
| 20:26.24 | Jenson | marko85_uk: i wouldnt know, ask zimm |
| 20:26.43 | marko85_uk | zimm will i be able to view the file |
| 20:26.52 | zimm | is it zipped ? |
| 20:26.55 | marko85_uk | i wish i could just pay it technician to sort that out for me |
| 20:26.56 | marko85_uk | it is |
| 20:27.00 | marko85_uk | .tgz |
| 20:27.01 | Jenson | better still ask dankolb, he's the clever one |
| 20:27.13 | zimm | ok , well copy it off the floppy to your desktop .. |
| 20:27.21 | zimm | and untar it .. |
| 20:27.30 | marko85_uk | just duble click on it? |
| 20:27.31 | zimm | tar -xvzf foo.tgz .. ? |
| 20:27.37 | zimm | you use kde ?? |
| 20:27.41 | marko85_uk | i use gnome |
| 20:27.46 | dankolb | If it's RedHat 8, it's BlueCurve |
| 20:27.52 | marko85_uk | the file is .tgz |
| 20:28.01 | marko85_uk | i think its a bluecurve |
| 20:28.05 | Jenson | marko85_uk: listen to Dan, me and zimm will. shut up |
| 20:28.47 | marko85_uk | hehe jenson :) |
| 20:28.51 | dankolb | marko85_uk: What do you need? |
| 20:29.09 | marko85_uk | ok basiclly i have a .tgz file on the floppy which is my modem driver and i think it needs to be run |
| 20:29.19 | marko85_uk | coz i can not configure my modem it doesnt seem to dial |
| 20:29.19 | dankolb | Right. |
| 20:29.39 | dankolb | Can you copy the .tgz file off the floppy into your home directory? |
| 20:30.05 | marko85_uk | i can not seem to be able to find an icon that will give me access to my floppy drive |
| 20:30.15 | dankolb | Do it from the command line, then |
| 20:30.25 | marko85_uk | in red hat 7 there was an icon now there is just floppy mount device |
| 20:30.31 | marko85_uk | ok give me instructions if u can |
| 20:31.21 | dankolb | Erm. Try: mount /mnt/floppy |
| 20:32.23 | marko85_uk | ok ill do that |
| 20:32.32 | marko85_uk | i do have a icon that says mount floppy disc |
| 20:32.42 | dankolb | Bah. Icons. |
| 20:32.51 | dankolb | What's wrong with the command line, eg? |
| 20:32.51 | marko85_uk | but i thought that is like formating floppy in windows |
| 20:32.52 | dankolb | *eh? |
| 20:33.00 | marko85_uk | nothing :) |
| 20:33.08 | dankolb | Exactly :) |
| 20:33.21 | marko85_uk | ill find my way around |
| 20:33.30 | dankolb | And easier to say what to type in on the command line, rather than where to click |
| 20:34.41 | Jenson | Gotta call someone |
| 20:34.59 | Jenson | zimm: If you aint still here when I get back, I'll call you later |
| 20:35.09 | zimm | :) |
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| 20:37.01 | omphe | 'lo everyone |
| 20:44.50 | zimm | heya omphe |
| 20:45.17 | omphe | It's so quiet in here tonight, I was about to check my firewall. |
| 20:45.22 | zimm | lol |
| 20:45.27 | omphe | Thought I'd blocked everything out |
| 20:45.36 | zimm | nah , they are just all dead # |
| 20:47.58 | zimm | lol |
| 21:00.04 | Clyphox | howzit |
| 21:00.12 | omphe | hi Clyphox |
| 21:00.33 | Clyphox | howdy |
| 21:00.52 | omphe | shhhh, I think everyone's asleep! |
| 21:02.02 | omphe | :) |
| 21:02.51 | Clyphox | gtg.. only got one Keyb |
| 21:03.10 | Clyphox|afm | away from monitor |
| 21:31.22 | Clyphox | back |
| 21:31.23 | Tarragon | Obviously something we didn't say. |
| 21:31.42 | Clyphox | bah |
| 21:31.49 | Tarragon | Moo |
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| 21:34.42 | Tarragon | Evening |
| 21:34.49 | marko85_uk | alright |
| 21:37.07 | dankolb | Hi people |
| 21:37.27 | marko85_uk | dankolb i managed to get to the floppy |
| 21:37.27 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 21:37.33 | dankolb | good :) |
| 21:38.41 | marko85_uk | but there is a read me file that i can not understand |
| 21:38.41 | marko85_uk | lol |
| 21:38.55 | dankolb | How so, not understand? |
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| 21:39.10 | marko85_uk | well the stuff inside doesnt make sence |
| 21:39.13 | dankolb | Ahh. |
| 21:39.20 | marko85_uk | ":) well it probably would be fine to u |
| 21:39.24 | dankolb | Probably, yeah |
| 21:39.25 | marko85_uk | but to me its bit to much |
| 21:39.37 | dankolb | Just need to learn a bit more then... |
| 21:39.46 | marko85_uk | i know |
| 21:39.57 | marko85_uk | i think i would learn loads more if i had access to internet from red hat |
| 21:39.57 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 21:40.05 | dankolb | :) |
| 21:40.40 | highbury | cover yer mouth lass! |
| 21:40.51 | Jenson | lol hey highbury |
| 21:41.30 | highbury | hey jenson, I was just passing trhu |
| 21:41.44 | dankolb | highbury is a passthru? |
| 21:42.32 | Clyphox | whats a passthru anyhow? |
| 21:42.49 | dankolb | highbury is a passthru |
| 21:43.15 | Jenson | hey Clyphox |
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| 21:43.30 | Clyphox | hiya Jenson |
| 21:43.30 | dankolb | hey formi |
| 21:43.40 | Jenson | wb formi |
| 21:43.48 | omphe | formi!! |
| 21:44.00 | Clyphox | Lets all just have a huge group hug? |
| 21:44.12 | omphe | easy Clyphox |
| 21:44.27 | formi | hiya |
| 21:44.45 | dankolb | Clyphox: :-) |
| 21:46.06 | Clyphox | I bloody did a wonderfull compile of mplayer last night with all the codecs and a kitchen sink.. now I can't find the options I used in my .bash_history :( |
| 21:46.22 | Clyphox | I'm gonna have to read all that howto crap again.. |
| 21:46.36 | Clyphox | At least I got a slack package built ... |
| 21:46.39 | Clyphox | </muse> |
| 21:46.53 | Clyphox | fsck |
| 21:47.05 | Clyphox | now my fdd thinks it ro! |
| 21:47.14 | Clyphox | grrrr.. |
| 21:47.27 | Clyphox | I'm in a bad mood.. |
| 21:47.38 | dankolb | What's up, Clyphox|gone? |
| 21:47.44 | marko85_uk | ill be back laterz if anyone needs me |
| 21:47.45 | marko85_uk | :)) |
| 21:47.49 | dankolb | bye marko85_uk |
| 21:48.11 | marko85_uk | c ya dankolb |
| 21:56.54 | Clyphox|gone | AAAARGGGGHHHHHHH!!! |
| 21:57.02 | dankolb | :) |
| 21:58.09 | Clyphox|gone | fsck fsck fsck! |
| 21:58.23 | Clyphox|gone | and a badblocks -sv at that too! |
| 21:58.28 | Jenson | lo |
| 21:58.29 | Jenson | l |
| 21:58.53 | Jenson | I better get offline. I've got things to do. |
| 21:58.53 | dankolb | :) |
| 21:58.56 | Clyphox|gone | sry.. just moody.. that time of the month |
| 21:58.57 | Jenson | I'll see you guys tomorrow |
| 21:59.01 | dankolb | C'ya |
| 21:59.02 | Clyphox|gone | cya |
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| 21:59.39 | Clyphox|gone | Enya is helping me unwind a little.. but I've gotta stop IRC'ing or I'll expode (messy) |
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| 22:01.02 | omphe | Anyone quite familiar with knoppix? |
| 22:01.22 | Leeds | highbury is quite a fan of it :-) |
| 22:02.07 | omphe | Will it pick up an IP# with DHCP at boot, or do I have to jump through the Knoppix-> Network Config -> yada yah? |
| 22:02.21 | highbury | it'll just work (tm) |
| 22:02.36 | omphe | love it more and more by the minute. |
| 22:03.12 | omphe | It still works better than my Debian install. And without the hassle. |
| 22:04.19 | dankolb | Most things work better than a Debian install |
| 22:05.21 | omphe | If you hand the Free/BSD, ooohh so help me... |
| 22:06.08 | dankolb | What? |
| 22:09.10 | formi | freebsd rocks, yahoooo |
| 22:09.16 | dankolb | It does. |
| 22:21.37 | gpj | Leeds: hello |
| 22:23.24 | Leeds | evening |
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| 22:29.29 | davilion | scotlug |
| 22:29.32 | davilion | arse |
| 22:29.51 | dankolb | :) |
| 22:30.20 | Leeds | formi: I'm actually playing with freebsd at work at the moment - doing some research on it - and I'm finding it quite friendly |
| 22:30.57 | formi | i do like it a lot |
| 22:31.35 | formi | it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of linux but it seems well put together |
| 22:32.25 | Leeds | apart from the fact that I'm more used to sysv command-line stuff and so on... and I'm only using it via SSH, not on the console |
| 22:33.27 | formi | my console is almost the same as it was on mdk |
| 22:33.47 | formi | took a bit of tweaking but works nicely |
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| 22:35.00 | Leeds | I have a theory - it could be bunnies! |
| 22:35.23 | davilion | heheh |
| 22:35.25 | davilion | no bt lied again. |
| 22:35.39 | davilion | i got an sms message to my phone telling me my line was active and working |
| 22:35.44 | davilion | its not active and its not working |
| 22:35.46 | Leeds | it's not like I'm using it - just playing with it to research |
| 22:36.03 | Leeds | did you say CUNT? |
| 22:36.45 | formi | nope |
| 22:37.53 | davilion | ??? |
| 22:38.22 | formi | davilion: don't play confused bunnie |
| 22:39.27 | davilion | its not intentional? |
| 22:39.45 | formi | good question |
| 22:57.32 | dpash | hi |
| 22:57.56 | dpash | I guess it it probably best that it remains that way |
| 22:58.27 | dankolb | scunthorpe contains CUNT |
| 22:58.45 | dpash | so it does |
| 23:07.26 | Leeds | it's an old problem with automated stuff checking names against a 'bad word' list |
| 23:10.06 | dankolb | Do you have a bad word list? |
| 23:14.29 | formi | dankolb: is full of cheese |
| 23:14.37 | dankolb | :) |
| 23:19.07 | dankolb | 'night all |
| 23:46.28 | dpash | ah bugger it |
| 23:46.29 | dpash | night |
| 23:46.46 | formi | night |
| 23:50.21 | formi | leeds |
| 23:50.39 | formi | manchester |
| 23:51.41 | formi | leeds |
| 23:52.01 | formi | ibot: is leeds sleeping? |
| 23:52.02 | | formi: bugger all, i dunno |
| 23:52.03 | Leeds | no |
| 23:52.44 | formi | 1 sec |
| 23:53.18 | formi | http://www.farodevigo.es/humor/humor4.html |
| 23:53.22 | formi | check that one |
| 23:54.01 | formi | the note says "have it back, we never really liked it" |