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| 00:08.27 | Leeds | bagels! |
| 00:09.57 | dankolb | Yay! |
| 00:10.12 | Leeds | no salt beef - it's a bakery, not a deli :-) |
| 00:10.23 | Leeds | but the plain ones are still warm from the oven... |
| 00:10.26 | cupis | yum |
| 00:10.56 | Leeds | the sesame are cold :-( |
| 00:11.27 | dankolb | Aww. Ah well. |
| 00:12.09 | eye69 | Anybody have Word and check if OpenOffice has converted this correctly? |
| 00:12.19 | Leeds | wots Word? |
| 00:12.32 | dankolb | A sequence of letters separated by spaces |
| 00:12.36 | eye69 | MS |
| 00:13.56 | eye69 | http://upcore.net/cv.doc |
| 00:14.24 | eye69 | And yes, it probably looks like shite. My design talents are non-existant. |
| 00:15.18 | skugg | heh. anybody have procmail installed? if you do, you're up for a good laugh; |
| 00:15.35 | skugg | type `mailstat' on the commandline. nothing more, nothing less. |
| 00:16.02 | skugg | eye69, that's an asset. you've got that covered in your cv? :) |
| 00:16.09 | Leeds | Most people don't type their own logfiles; but, what do I care? |
| 00:16.24 | eye69 | Hehehe. |
| 00:16.39 | skugg | Leeds, yeah. I thought that was cool :) |
| 00:17.43 | Leeds | :-) |
| 00:18.03 | eye69 | I've uploaded the cv.sxw too. |
| 00:21.33 | Leeds | Forbidden |
| 00:21.33 | Leeds | You don't have permission to access /cv.doc on this server. |
| 00:21.40 | eye69 | Oops. |
| 00:21.58 | eye69 | Fixed. |
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| 00:27.13 | Leeds | the head of the skillset section looks a little weird - maybe leave a line between the heading and the top of the table |
| 00:45.04 | Clyphox | off the phone at last. sry.. wasn't that hungry |
| 00:54.35 | highbury | just found a real nice metasearch site www.kartoo.com, but it does require a flash plugin |
| 00:57.17 | highbury | works in mozilla, but not konqueror |
| 01:01.29 | Leeds | it's interesting... not sure how useful though |
| 01:04.04 | dankolb | 'night ppl |
| 01:05.28 | skugg | night dan |
| 01:06.36 | Clyphox | [yawn] |
| 01:07.01 | Leeds | [moo] |
| 01:11.22 | Clyphox | lol |
| 01:11.24 | Clyphox | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:11.25 | Clyphox | <bEE2643> fuck |
| 01:11.25 | Clyphox | <bEE2643> i was screaming compile prefixes in my sleep last night |
| 01:11.29 | Clyphox | Hehe |
| 01:12.37 | skugg | sweet dreams ;P |
| 01:13.03 | Clyphox | More intelligent than mine at any rate.. |
| 01:13.09 | Clyphox | smarter then me when I'm awake! |
| 01:13.13 | skugg | ah well. I guess it's time to hit the sack. |
| 01:13.23 | Clyphox | me? |
| 01:13.24 | Leeds | night skugg |
| 01:13.29 | Clyphox | ohh.. nn skugg |
| 01:13.34 | skugg | Clyphox, no, that was for me :P |
| 01:13.45 | skugg | night Leeds, Clyphox :) |
| 02:19.11 | Leeds | heh, I have anti-aliased Russian text in my Mozilla :-) |
| 02:50.45 | Clyphox | Speak Russian? |
| 02:51.58 | Leeds | nope |
| 02:52.14 | Leeds | took one term of it in school, and spent a week or so there... but I don't speak it |
| 04:28.23 | Clyphox | I finally got NetBSD booting.. |
| 04:28.43 | Clyphox | Now it hates my CPU hehe |
| 05:24.24 | Clyphox | n |
| 05:24.27 | Clyphox | er nn |
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| 09:51.11 | Huhn | re |
| 10:00.54 | SpudUAway | Back without incident I trust? |
| 10:01.39 | Huhn | yes, thanks, everything's fine :) |
| 10:02.21 | SpudUAway | Glad to hear it. Flight booked for the 12th yet? |
| 10:02.31 | Huhn | will do tomorrow |
| 10:05.26 | SpudUAway | Obviously you do live in Greater London - 'Greater' has not really been defined with any boundaries. |
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| 10:51.46 | highbury | morning |
| 10:52.52 | Leeds | morning |
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| 11:35.22 | pdr | morning all |
| 11:35.52 | cupis | morning pdr |
| 11:46.15 | pdr | hi cupis |
| 11:46.22 | pdr | what are you up to today? |
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| 11:47.12 | cupis | pdr: not much atm, job application forms later :) |
| 11:47.17 | cupis | pdr: you? |
| 11:48.08 | Jenson | morning cupis |
| 11:48.23 | Leeds | seem to be a hell of a lot of people job-hunting right now... |
| 11:48.24 | cupis | morning Jenson |
| 11:48.49 | Jenson | I'm jobhunting supposedly |
| 11:49.07 | Jenson | But I can alkways fall back on McDonalds and the new Homebase thats opening in April :( |
| 11:50.05 | Leeds | Jenson: would you like fries with the box of nails? |
| 11:50.23 | Jenson | lol Leeds |
| 11:53.08 | Jenson | Well, I better get offline and sort lilo before my parents find out it isnt autobooting Windows coz zimm fscked it up. |
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| 12:02.46 | Jenson | Ok, who wants to help me sort lilo |
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| 12:02.56 | Jenson | I really don't want it autobooting Debian |
| 12:03.36 | Jenson | re cupis |
| 12:03.45 | cupis | re |
| 12:03.51 | cupis | Jenson: why not? |
| 12:04.07 | Jenson | cupis: Because it's a command line install |
| 12:04.18 | Jenson | And if it doesnt autoboot Win my parents will kill me |
| 12:04.34 | Jenson | And zimm managed to get me to versions of lilo on here |
| 12:04.35 | cupis | Jenson: run tasksel and select kde and x-desktop-environment |
| 12:05.05 | Jenson | I think I might just go format Debian of my system |
| 12:05.24 | cupis | :) |
| 12:05.24 | Jenson | But that doesnt solve thew problem that I've got 1 lili on the MBR and the one I want somewhere else |
| 12:05.31 | Jenson | s/lili/lilo |
| 12:05.44 | cupis | Jenson: what do you want on the MBR? |
| 12:05.51 | cupis | boot into slack and run lilo ? |
| 12:06.23 | Jenson | Well whats happening is I have 2 versions of lilo now, I have to select Slack on the first one to get the lilo I want |
| 12:07.05 | cupis | it was installed on the parttion, now it's also installed on the mbr? |
| 12:07.55 | Jenson | I dont have a clue |
| 12:08.08 | Jenson | I wasnt paying any attention, it was zimm who was installing it |
| 12:08.30 | Jenson | But I think thats what happened yeah |
| 12:08.39 | Jenson | It's installed on the Slack partition and on the MBR |
| 12:09.21 | cupis | Jenson: how did it _used_ to boot? it went straight to the 'slack' lilo? |
| 12:09.33 | Jenson | yeah |
| 12:11.37 | Jenson | I need to write the Slack lilo on the MBR over the Debian one |
| 12:12.31 | cupis | Jenson: boot slack and run lilo or lilo -u /dev/hda i think - check the lilo manpage (I use grub, so this is from memory) |
| 12:14.24 | cupis | Jenson: what value do you have for boot= in /etc/lilo.conf ? |
| 12:14.48 | Jenson | How do I find that out? |
| 12:14.59 | pdr | cupis: what sort of jobs? |
| 12:15.12 | cupis | Jenson: as root, open /etc/lilo.conf and look for the line starting with boot= |
| 12:15.18 | Jenson | ok then |
| 12:15.25 | pdr | cupis: as for me, I've a date this arvo |
| 12:15.27 | pdr | :) |
| 12:16.15 | Jenson | cupis: /dev/hda2 |
| 12:16.21 | Jenson | Thats my Slack partition |
| 12:16.30 | cupis | pdr: it technician in a local school, systems supervisor in another, support officer in liverpool uni, ict manager in swindon |
| 12:16.44 | cupis | Jenson: change that to /dev/hda and run lilo as root |
| 12:17.01 | Jenson | k then |
| 12:17.03 | cupis | Jenson: that will install slack's lilo onto your mbr, over the other lilo |
| 12:17.05 | pdr | cupis: you like the education sector then? |
| 12:17.54 | cupis | pdr: not especially, but those are the people advertising |
| 12:18.08 | cupis | I have a couple of web forms to fill in for other jobs - agency things |
| 12:18.44 | cupis | pdr: london media companies and the like |
| 12:19.13 | pdr | good luck then! i don't envy anyone applying for IT jobs in the current market |
| 12:19.32 | Leeds | cupis: liverpool Uni? comp sci. or comp services? |
| 12:19.37 | cupis | pdr: heh, thanks |
| 12:19.39 | Jenson | BRB |
| 12:19.56 | cupis | Leeds: faculty of medicine |
| 12:20.15 | Leeds | ah... I did comp. sci. @ Liverpool :-) |
| 12:20.22 | cupis | Leeds: job, not course |
| 12:20.27 | Leeds | sure |
| 12:20.41 | cupis | I did comp sci at imperial |
| 12:20.47 | cupis | which was fun :) |
| 12:21.01 | Leeds | when? |
| 12:21.10 | cupis | 99-02 |
| 12:22.02 | Leeds | ah... was just wondering if the Sun jobs would suit you... |
| 12:28.33 | pdr | Leeds: what are they paying? |
| 12:29.20 | Leeds | pdr: I don't really know - the positions are pretty flexible, so it would depend on the person |
| 12:29.49 | Leeds | are you a C coder? |
| 12:29.54 | pdr | :-) yes |
| 12:30.09 | pdr | see http://pdr.cx/projects/ |
| 12:30.17 | Leeds | for some reason I thought you were a web guy... |
| 12:30.32 | pdr | well, sort of |
| 12:31.12 | pdr | i've got a good knowledge of all things web and a lot of things sysadmin, but i'm a coder through and through |
| 12:31.33 | Leeds | http://uk.sun.com/ojp/ - UK0201467 and UK0201468 are my team, UK0201489 and UK0201490 are also in my office in a different team |
| 12:32.23 | Leeds | got any kernel-level experience? |
| 12:32.43 | pdr | a little - a couple of bug fixes |
| 12:33.07 | pdr | i went to write a NIC driver once, but that damn Donald Becker guy beat me to it :-) |
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| 12:33.54 | Leeds | so take a look, if you're interested... if you've got questions, feel free to ask off-channel |
| 12:34.27 | pdr | yeah, ok, will do. |
| 12:36.33 | murble | Leeds: what is your finders fee? |
| 12:37.16 | Jenson | Well, I just came back to say thanks to cupis for his help. lilo is still weird but it can stay like that |
| 12:37.32 | Leeds | murble: I don't know, to be honest... I'm more bothered about the fact that I know a bunch of people who are looking for work, people have been asking me about working at Sun for years, and we're finally hiring |
| 12:38.20 | Leeds | wow - a helpful and polite post from David Damerell :-) |
| 12:40.14 | murble | Leeds: are you sure it isn't a troll? |
| 12:42.29 | Leeds | no, really... it's about ADSL modems |
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| 12:46.27 | cupis | re |
| 12:47.19 | cupis | 15.1 seconds lag :) |
| 12:47.22 | cupis | 21.1 |
| 12:47.34 | murble | not too bad. |
| 12:47.53 | cupis | murble: it is when I normally get <3 s |
| 12:55.44 | Leeds | hmmm... problem with happy hacking keyboard - sucks for angband :-( |
| 12:58.05 | eye69 | http://www.ebaumsworld.com/cattrim.html |
| 12:58.11 | eye69 | Angry++ cat. |
| 12:59.48 | gpj | http://dunkels.com/adam/contiki/index.html |
| 12:59.52 | Leeds | meow! |
| 12:59.56 | gpj | Leeds: ! |
| 13:00.12 | gpj | you remember - spectrum users meeting upstairs ? |
| 13:00.12 | Leeds | gpj: it was on slashdot a few days ago |
| 13:00.23 | gpj | that is what i am reading now ;) |
| 13:00.39 | Leeds | of course I remember :-) |
| 13:00.44 | gpj | anyway |
| 13:01.00 | gpj | where i can buy used comodore 64 in this f. city ? |
| 13:01.16 | gpj | or maybe first : can i buy it somewhere :] |
| 13:01.31 | gpj | i know place in wienna where they sell thinkgs like that |
| 13:01.37 | Leeds | I would have suggested CEX Retro, but that's gone :-( |
| 13:01.51 | gpj | i mean existing one ;) |
| 13:02.28 | gpj | maybe on ebay ? |
| 13:02.41 | Leeds | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3405190227&category=11991 |
| 13:02.52 | gpj | well, microsoft servers driven - buy it is only one i know |
| 13:06.16 | gpj | 14 quits - sounds good |
| 13:09.11 | gpj | but how to put it then on c64 disk |
| 13:09.18 | gpj | and other problems |
| 13:09.21 | gpj | ech |
| 13:09.22 | gpj | :( |
| 13:09.53 | Leeds | search for c64 - there's a modem about 5 auctions up :-) |
| 13:10.01 | gpj | ;) |
| 13:10.27 | gpj | i think i will stay with pces |
| 13:10.47 | gpj | maybe i will buy some sun station or ibms one |
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| 13:12.33 | formi | hello |
| 13:15.06 | Leeds | afternoon |
| 13:15.40 | formi | check this |
| 13:16.30 | formi | directable mirrors, a better way to focus the Sun licenses available |
| 13:16.58 | formi | see: www.sohara.org |
| 13:17.12 | formi | mail sig that was |
| 13:18.47 | Leeds | ha ha ha |
| 13:19.44 | formi | is not mine |
| 13:20.40 | formi | i thought at first it was a pun |
| 13:20.49 | formi | comming from the freebsd guru |
| 13:20.56 | formi | still not sure |
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| 13:36.42 | nasrat | afternoon all |
| 13:39.05 | murble | just about. |
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| 13:44.06 | dpash | hi jenson |
| 13:44.52 | Jenson | hey dpash |
| 13:46.10 | Jenson | how are you |
| 14:10.58 | formi | murble, are you busy? |
| 14:17.05 | formi | shout at me when you stop drinking... |
| 14:44.29 | dpash | ping anyone sad enough to be at their computers rather than being out side on a wonderful day like today ;) |
| 14:45.15 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:45.26 | formi | excuse me |
| 14:45.49 | formi | didn't you know geeks are and sunlight dont mix |
| 14:51.39 | formi | dpash: ||| |
| 14:52.39 | dpash | formi: we are geeks not vampires |
| 14:52.51 | formi | speak for yourself |
| 14:53.11 | formi | grep -v "/usr/ports" /etc/fstab && mount_nfs -3 -r 16384 -w 16384 10.0.0.1:/big/fports /usr/ports & |
| 14:53.27 | formi | tell me |
| 14:53.45 | formi | why dont i get a listing of /etc/fstabd when i run that command |
| 14:54.07 | formi | sorry |
| 14:54.11 | formi | why dont i get a listing of /etc/fstabd when i run that command |
| 14:54.18 | formi | f*k |
| 14:54.31 | formi | why do i get a listing of /etc/fstabd when i run that command ?? |
| 14:54.42 | dpash | what happens if you run grep -v "/usr/ports" /etc/fstab |
| 14:54.50 | dpash | oh why do you |
| 14:55.08 | dpash | because the grep is looking for lines that don't have /usr/ports/ in it |
| 14:55.31 | dpash | the -v reverses grep |
| 14:55.51 | formi | i get it now |
| 14:56.15 | formi | doing it the wrong way |
| 14:57.01 | formi | my idea was "if /usr/ports is not in /etc/fstab mount it" |
| 14:58.40 | dpash | grep -c "/usr/ports" /etc/fstab && mount_nfs -3 -r 16384 -w 16384 10.0.0.1:/big/fports /usr/ports & |
| 14:58.45 | dpash | is probably better |
| 14:59.01 | dpash | still prints out 1 or 0, but is better than before |
| 14:59.13 | formi | nope |
| 14:59.14 | dpash | doesn;t help you if the line is commented out |
| 14:59.27 | dpash | could be a gnu extension |
| 14:59.36 | dpash | does -c work? |
| 14:59.47 | formi | mount | grep "ports" && mount_nfs ..... |
| 15:00.09 | formi | # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# |
| 15:00.09 | formi | /dev/ad0s2b none swap sw 0 0 |
| 15:00.09 | formi | /dev/ad0s2a / ufs rw 1 1 |
| 15:00.09 | formi | /dev/ad0s2g /usr ufs rw 2 2 |
| 15:00.09 | formi | /dev/ad0s2f /usr/home ufs rw 2 2 |
| 15:00.10 | formi | /dev/ad0s2e /var ufs rw 2 2 |
| 15:00.11 | dpash | I assume this is xbsd |
| 15:00.12 | formi | proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 |
| 15:00.14 | formi | -su-2.05b# mount | grep ports |
| 15:00.29 | formi | there is no listing of nfs shares on /etc/fstab |
| 15:00.49 | formi | yes freebsd |
| 15:00.54 | dpash | bah |
| 15:03.48 | formi | what's the opposite of && |
| 15:03.50 | formi | ? |
| 15:03.57 | dpash | || |
| 15:07.09 | formi | mount | grep "ports" > /dev/null || mount_nfs ..... |
| 15:07.43 | formi | that should mount the share if it isn't mounted |
| 15:08.02 | formi | and do nothing if it's already mounted |
| 15:11.46 | dpash | yeah |
| 15:12.33 | formi | already tested thanks |
| 15:12.50 | dpash | last meeting had 2 people turn up |
| 15:12.52 | formi | mk? |
| 15:12.57 | formi | milton keynes |
| 15:13.03 | dpash | yep |
| 15:13.08 | dpash | my local lug |
| 15:13.10 | dpash | that and bedslug |
| 15:13.23 | formi | where the f*k is that? |
| 15:13.33 | dpash | bedford[shire] |
| 15:13.39 | dpash | east of milton keynes |
| 15:13.43 | formi | where the f*k is that? |
| 15:14.02 | formi | hfc kisajh |
| 15:14.16 | dpash | eh? |
| 15:14.43 | formi | sorry shouldn't try to type with my toes |
| 15:15.02 | dpash | formi: er yeah could be good ;) |
| 15:15.09 | dpash | formi: it is between the two |
| 15:15.47 | formi | i knew that one |
| 15:17.44 | formi | took as 9 hours |
| 15:17.54 | formi | s/as/us |
| 15:18.02 | dpash | hitchhiking is not entirely safe |
| 15:18.15 | formi | tell me |
| 15:18.32 | formi | the first bloke was a hippie on a volvo 479 |
| 15:18.50 | formi | 470 with all kinds of rubbish inside the car |
| 15:19.11 | highbury | afternoon |
| 15:19.14 | formi | he found us near the big roundabout just out of edin |
| 15:19.49 | dpash | hi highbury |
| 15:20.02 | formi | parked on the other side, got out of the car and shouted "where are you going?" |
| 15:21.38 | formi | sorry |
| 15:21.46 | formi | that is a different one |
| 15:22.26 | formi | highbury: have you read my last post to the admins list? |
| 15:27.14 | highbury | formi is correct about leak :-/ |
| 15:28.04 | formi | wasn't the leak on the roof of the conservatory? |
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| 15:28.20 | formi | marko |
| 15:28.36 | formi | have you downloaded rute ? |
| 15:28.49 | marko85_uk | rute? |
| 15:29.01 | marko85_uk | only thing i downloaded is amsn |
| 15:29.02 | highbury | leak was in garden shed/"Wendy House" |
| 15:30.09 | formi | who is Wendy? |
| 15:30.23 | marko85_uk | formi you didnt tell me what rute is? |
| 15:30.37 | formi | marko, this is the last time i'll repeat what rute is |
| 15:31.04 | marko85_uk | you never told me what rute is |
| 15:31.04 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 15:31.07 | formi | because you have the habit of leaving without reading what other people say to you |
| 15:31.48 | formi | go to sourceforge.net |
| 15:32.07 | formi | and type "rute" on the search box |
| 15:32.12 | marko85_uk | ok |
| 15:32.22 | formi | and then follow the links to the home page |
| 15:32.42 | formi | don't forget to wipe your nose! |
| 15:34.58 | dpash | highbury: wendy house is the name of a kids play shed |
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| 15:35.12 | dpash | oops that should have been formi |
| 15:37.08 | formi | ibot: seen zachary? |
| 15:37.10 | | zachary <~zachary@host217-34-79-45.in-addr.btopenworld.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 15d 6h 26m 10s ago, saying: 'good morning'. |
| 15:37.51 | marko85_uk | formi |
| 15:38.04 | marko85_uk | i searched for it but it seems to associate everything with brute |
| 15:38.12 | marko85_uk | so i dont see what use is it to me |
| 15:38.44 | formi | i don't know who is the "brute" here, :-> |
| 15:38.48 | formi | wait a sec |
| 15:39.55 | formi | well rute is the first hit on the search |
| 15:40.40 | marko85_uk | its not i typed rute and it gave me things similar to brute |
| 15:41.01 | formi | you need glasses then |
| 15:41.19 | formi | have another look at the results page |
| 15:41.30 | marko85_uk | i have there is some kind of pandora |
| 15:41.31 | formi | just under "project name" |
| 15:41.41 | formi | the next line |
| 15:42.02 | marko85_uk | just a little writing rute |
| 15:42.40 | marko85_uk | its some kind of project |
| 15:43.30 | formi | marko85_uk: CLICK ON THE WORD RUTE |
| 15:44.16 | formi | then search for "home page" and click on it |
| 15:46.32 | marko85_uk | i have clicked on the word rute |
| 15:46.44 | formi | congratulations |
| 15:47.01 | formi | you are getting there |
| 15:47.46 | marko85_uk | i am there so once i am on the page |
| 15:47.48 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 15:48.09 | formi | the rute page ? |
| 15:48.15 | marko85_uk | i dont get where to search on that page |
| 15:48.36 | formi | what browser are you using? |
| 15:48.39 | marko85_uk | http://sourceforge.net/projects/rute/ |
| 15:48.43 | marko85_uk | i am here at the moment |
| 15:48.43 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 15:49.29 | marko85_uk | i need to restart my x |
| 15:49.40 | marko85_uk | it seems to be blocking certain parts of the screen |
| 15:49.44 | marko85_uk | speak to you in a bit |
| 15:49.57 | formi | again |
| 15:58.01 | *** join/#gllug Jenson (1000@host213-122-251-156.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 16:13.20 | Jenson | Leeds: Go shower |
| 16:13.35 | Leeds | good idea... |
| 16:13.59 | formi | not the gym this time? |
| 16:14.10 | Leeds | nope... DDR |
| 16:14.52 | formi | ddr? sounds like one of those bra sizes |
| 16:15.01 | Leeds | well, maybe... |
| 16:15.07 | Jenson | lol |
| 16:15.08 | Leeds | Playstation dancing game, on a mat |
| 16:15.17 | formi | man |
| 16:15.28 | nasrat | it's quite fun :) |
| 16:15.28 | formi | you need a social life |
| 16:15.37 | SpudUAway | Leeds: Which game? |
| 16:15.47 | formi | brb |
| 16:16.05 | Leeds | SpudUAway: Dancing Stage Party Edition, this time... |
| 16:16.20 | SpudUAway | That's PS1 ? |
| 16:16.23 | Leeds | yup... |
| 16:16.24 | *** join/#gllug marko85_uk ([4diCmrrwr@213.78.103.106) |
| 16:16.36 | marko85_uk | guys when i try to log in on www.hotmail.com |
| 16:16.47 | marko85_uk | it comes up that i need to download rms |
| 16:16.53 | marko85_uk | some kind of security thing |
| 16:16.59 | Jenson | lucky you |
| 16:17.00 | Leeds | I bought a PSone (with 5 games thrown in), and a mat and two DDR games last week, total about 70 quid |
| 16:17.03 | marko85_uk | did that happen to anyone |
| 16:17.06 | Leeds | marko85_uk: rms? |
| 16:17.10 | marko85_uk | yeah |
| 16:17.14 | Jenson | marko85_uk: Not me, but I'm using Slack |
| 16:17.17 | Leeds | you need to install a smelly hippy? :-) |
| 16:17.21 | SpudUAway | We got mats, but only got Britney Spears game, so you are always trying to decide whether to dance or lop your ears off with pinking shears. |
| 16:17.47 | marko85_uk | PSM |
| 16:17.53 | Leeds | SpudUAway: the music in the games I've got isn't great... but it's better than britney |
| 16:17.55 | nasrat | istr debian has a virtual rms package |
| 16:17.57 | Leeds | ah, PSM! |
| 16:18.04 | marko85_uk | that is the one |
| 16:18.07 | Leeds | marko85_uk: what browser are you using? |
| 16:18.11 | marko85_uk | i found something but the file seems to be huge |
| 16:18.13 | marko85_uk | mozilla |
| 16:18.20 | Leeds | which mozilla? and where from? |
| 16:18.21 | marko85_uk | my favourite |
| 16:18.36 | marko85_uk | it came together with my Red Hat |
| 16:19.31 | Leeds | which version? go to Help:About Mozilla to find out (or put about: in the location bar) |
| 16:20.13 | Leeds | either way, it's certainly out-of-date... but it *should* have come with PSM (which, by the way, stands for something like Personal Security Manager - it's the bit of Mozilla which does secure HTTP) |
| 16:20.25 | Jenson | ibot lart 'incomapitable browser' msgs |
| 16:20.48 | Leeds | Jenson: in this case, that's not the problem... apparently marko's mozilla doesn't have security support :-( |
| 16:20.53 | marko85_uk | leeds would you recemend that i download the new version |
| 16:21.11 | Jenson | Leeds: Lucky him |
| 16:21.19 | nasrat | marko85_uk: do you have a rhn account? |
| 16:21.24 | Leeds | marko85_uk: certainly, if you can take the download... it's not small, but 1.3 is pretty nice |
| 16:21.42 | nasrat | marko85_uk: up2date mozilla-psm |
| 16:21.45 | marko85_uk | i do have a rhn account and i will just do that |
| 16:21.56 | marko85_uk | i cant belive i forgot that |
| 16:21.59 | marko85_uk | ill do that nasrat |
| 16:21.59 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 16:22.33 | marko85_uk | in my update thing i only got two things related to mozilla |
| 16:23.15 | nasrat | that'll be what you have installed. install those, then open up a terminal and as root do up2date --nox mozilla-psm |
| 16:23.35 | Leeds | -nox? does mozilla smell? :-) |
| 16:23.58 | nasrat | Leeds: nah I like having #'s printed :) |
| 16:25.31 | nasrat | hmm, sounds nice |
| 16:25.44 | Jenson | I don't like Moz....and I never liked Netscape. I liked IE but it was crashy, so I use Konqueror these days |
| 16:26.44 | nasrat | gecko is quite a nice engine - mozilla uses that :P |
| 16:27.07 | Leeds | you know what I mean :-) mozilla rather than galeon or konq |
| 16:27.29 | Leeds | which reminds me... must go look at skipstone again |
| 16:29.28 | marko85_uk | leeds i am downloading the new mozzila |
| 16:29.44 | marko85_uk | is 10 mb or something like that what the browser size is |
| 16:31.35 | Leeds | marko85_uk: something like that |
| 16:31.54 | Leeds | mine appears to be 144Mb... :-) |
| 16:32.32 | marko85_uk | yeah mine is something like that as well lol |
| 16:32.34 | eye69 | http://lists.netsys.com/pipermail/full-disclosure/2003-March/004520.html |
| 16:33.25 | Leeds | eye69: you mean this? http://www.slackware.com/lists/archive/viewer.php?l=slackware-security&y=2003&m=slackware-security.266181 |
| 16:33.53 | eye69 | Leeds: Something like that. |
| 16:37.07 | marko85_uk | is there a command |
| 16:37.15 | marko85_uk | that will tell me how fast my internet connection is?? |
| 16:37.21 | marko85_uk | netstat? |
| 16:38.34 | eye69 | You can only check with what speed your connecting device has been connected. |
| 16:38.49 | marko85_uk | how do i do that eye69 |
| 16:38.55 | Leeds | marko85_uk: run "pppstats -w1" to see second-by-second how much data is flownig |
| 16:38.57 | eye69 | It depends on the type of device. |
| 16:40.12 | Leeds | eye69: marko85_uk is using a modem... |
| 16:40.22 | eye69 | Oh, the poor thing. :) |
| 16:40.58 | marko85_uk | yeah hehe well i can DOS you two with my modem |
| 16:40.58 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 16:41.01 | Leeds | well, who'd have thought it? skipstone actually works! |
| 16:41.03 | marko85_uk | Been Attack hehe |
| 16:42.11 | Leeds | Been Attack? |
| 16:42.16 | marko85_uk | 4260 does that seem to be ok for a modem? |
| 16:42.23 | marko85_uk | bin or been |
| 16:42.27 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 16:42.32 | marko85_uk | not sure how to spell it |
| 16:42.42 | Leeds | 4260 sounds about right, a bit slow |
| 16:43.10 | nasrat | hi dank_work |
| 16:43.12 | marko85_uk | you know my red hat update it says the connection is 3 k/b a sec |
| 16:43.13 | Jenson | hey dank_work |
| 16:43.17 | marko85_uk | which seems to be pants |
| 16:43.20 | Leeds | hey dan |
| 16:43.22 | marko85_uk | alright dank_work |
| 16:43.35 | Jenson | marko85_uk: Modems are pants...except pants are more interesting |
| 16:43.44 | Leeds | jenson! |
| 16:44.03 | Jenson | Leeds! |
| 16:44.16 | marko85_uk | well female pants are hehe |
| 16:44.19 | dank_work | "Oh John!" "Oh Marsha!" |
| 16:44.32 | Jenson | marko85_uk: Don't go there lol |
| 16:44.56 | marko85_uk | hehe well unless i am alowed? |
| 16:45.00 | Leeds | dank_work: don't call me Marsha! |
| 16:45.10 | dank_work | Only if I'm calling Jenson John |
| 16:45.23 | marko85_uk | ha ha ha leeds name is Marsha |
| 16:45.26 | marko85_uk | lol hehe joking |
| 16:45.26 | Jenson | lol |
| 16:45.36 | Leeds | ahem |
| 16:45.48 | Jenson | marko85_uk: I'm the only female awake here, and you are not sharing my pants |
| 16:46.08 | marko85_uk | i wasnt talking about urs |
| 16:46.13 | Jenson | oh good |
| 16:46.22 | Jenson | I'm glad about that |
| 16:46.22 | marko85_uk | i was talking about pants in general |
| 16:46.23 | Leeds | you weren't talking about a bear? |
| 16:46.25 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 16:46.25 | marko85_uk | eww i wouldnt even go there |
| 16:46.27 | marko85_uk | hehe joking |
| 16:46.31 | Jenson | good good |
| 16:46.59 | Leeds | marko85_uk: just out of interest... how old are you? :-) |
| 16:47.08 | marko85_uk | i was joking jenson you know i like you as a person |
| 16:47.15 | marko85_uk | hehe leeds :) 17 |
| 16:47.18 | Jenson | marko85_uk: You dont even know me |
| 16:47.26 | Jenson | And liking me is not a good idea is it dank_work? |
| 16:47.31 | dank_work | Very true |
| 16:47.36 | Jenson | :) |
| 16:47.36 | marko85_uk | so i cant say i disslike you can i? |
| 16:47.39 | dank_work | But I don't hate you |
| 16:47.43 | Jenson | I know |
| 16:47.46 | marko85_uk | and i like everyone :) |
| 16:47.52 | Jenson | marko85_uk: lol |
| 16:47.54 | dank_work | There's only one person that I hate |
| 16:48.03 | nasrat | marko85_uk: you're not on the gllug list then :) |
| 16:48.19 | marko85_uk | i have the same opinion on you as well dank work |
| 16:48.22 | marko85_uk | i hate you too mate hehe |
| 16:48.53 | Jenson | marko85_uk: Who was that? |
| 16:49.08 | marko85_uk | i think Richard |
| 16:49.11 | marko85_uk | he works for red hat |
| 16:49.24 | Jenson | Well, just ignore him then |
| 16:49.26 | marko85_uk | and i thought he was really unpolite |
| 16:49.34 | marko85_uk | i did :) |
| 16:49.41 | marko85_uk | well after i sent the message hehe |
| 16:49.51 | Jenson | I have whinged at a few newbies on here before |
| 16:50.00 | dank_work | Jenson: Have you? |
| 16:50.00 | marko85_uk | Jenson: Do you listen to Techno |
| 16:50.07 | formi | marko85_uk: have you downloaded "rute" ? |
| 16:50.12 | dpash | Jenson: The Newbie Eater |
| 16:50.12 | Jenson | marko85_uk: Not particulary |
| 16:50.17 | Jenson | dpash: lol |
| 16:50.22 | marko85_uk | formi :) to be honest i didnt |
| 16:50.32 | marko85_uk | i cant work out what it is and why i need it |
| 16:50.41 | formi | marko85_uk: well don't bother asking me another question |
| 16:50.41 | Jenson | dank_work: Yeah, we had one whinging about off topicness |
| 16:50.53 | dpash | Jenson: in here? |
| 16:50.53 | marko85_uk | formi you are my broooooooo |
| 16:50.58 | Jenson | dpash: yeah lol |
| 16:50.59 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 16:50.59 | marko85_uk | dont say that |
| 16:51.04 | formi | marko85_uk: i have told you a few times what the fuck is it |
| 16:51.16 | marko85_uk | you havent you told me the web page |
| 16:51.18 | Jenson | lol dank_work me |
| 16:51.23 | Leeds | marko85_uk: listen to the man... he knows what he's talking about |
| 16:51.23 | marko85_uk | i must have missed what you said |
| 16:51.38 | dpash | hey I'm always on-topic |
| 16:51.44 | formi | Leeds: obviosly |
| 16:51.52 | marko85_uk | i know he does but i dont that is the problem |
| 16:51.58 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 16:52.05 | Leeds | marko85_uk: have you met google? |
| 16:52.17 | marko85_uk | in a process |
| 16:52.23 | formi | Leeds: he's too young for that! |
| 16:52.28 | Jenson | lol formi |
| 16:52.46 | dpash | argh more crap canadian manufactured skate punk |
| 16:52.59 | dpash | will she never go away |
| 16:53.02 | marko85_uk | formi say one more word and ill be booting my windows |
| 16:53.02 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 16:53.10 | Jenson | lol dpash |
| 16:53.25 | formi | marko85_uk: make me happy! |
| 16:53.26 | Leeds | dpash: these things run their course... |
| 16:53.40 | dpash | Leeds: but twice in one hour |
| 16:53.48 | marko85_uk | well to be honest i think i could flood you |
| 16:53.56 | marko85_uk | and get you of the server but that would be about it |
| 16:54.00 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 16:54.13 | formi | marko85_uk: with what? questions |
| 16:54.30 | Leeds | marko85_uk: chill, go find rute and read it... you might learn something |
| 16:54.54 | formi | Leeds: i have told him about 8 times to do that |
| 16:55.03 | marko85_uk | i know |
| 16:55.03 | marko85_uk | i am doing it |
| 16:55.06 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 16:55.06 | marko85_uk | guys chill man |
| 16:55.08 | nasrat | ibot what is rtfm? |
| 16:55.10 | | [rtfm] Read The Fine Product Documentation, or see rtff |
| 16:55.31 | dpash | wow decent music in the charts |
| 16:55.37 | Leeds | dpash? |
| 16:55.54 | dpash | placebo |
| 16:55.57 | Jenson | oooh |
| 16:56.00 | Jenson | i like placebo |
| 16:56.00 | nasrat | ah |
| 16:56.02 | Leeds | ah |
| 16:56.28 | dpash | better than avril |
| 16:56.40 | Leeds | you mean April Levine |
| 16:56.48 | dpash | http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz |
| 16:56.52 | marko85_uk | guys i do wicked techno i trance |
| 16:57.05 | Leeds | marko85_uk: that's nice... I prefer music |
| 16:57.07 | dpash | er no I mean avril lavagne |
| 16:57.31 | formi | Leeds: I need you to tell me again |
| 16:57.32 | dpash | s/vag/vig/ |
| 16:57.38 | Jenson | Do you guys think I should finish my Debian install, or format it and install FreeBSD, or create a 7GB filestore? |
| 16:57.39 | eye69 | lasagne |
| 16:57.42 | Leeds | dpash: or the name her parents probably gave her... |
| 16:57.43 | Jenson | lol eye69 |
| 16:57.52 | Leeds | Jenson: I think you should supply lasagne |
| 16:57.55 | dpash | Jenson: debian |
| 16:58.05 | dank_work | FreeBSD |
| 16:58.06 | Leeds | Slack 9.0rc :-) |
| 16:58.10 | Jenson | Leeds: We arent talking about food |
| 16:58.12 | eye69 | My vote goes to Debian. |
| 16:58.14 | dank_work | You already have a Linux |
| 16:58.14 | formi | Leeds: to go and r pine tfm |
| 16:58.25 | Leeds | formi: go rtfpm |
| 16:58.30 | dpash | Leeds: read http://www.avril-lavigne.com/bio.php |
| 16:58.40 | Leeds | dpash: do I *have* to? |
| 16:58.47 | dpash | Leeds: yeah It is a hoot |
| 16:58.53 | dank_work | So there's no need to have another distro. |
| 16:58.54 | formi | Free BSD |
| 16:59.05 | Jenson | I shouldnt have let my geek lose with my pc...its more messed up than it was before I let him near it |
| 16:59.05 | dpash | debian: the one true linux |
| 16:59.13 | dank_work | Your geek? Hah. |
| 16:59.21 | Leeds | Jenson: try freebsd for something a little bit different |
| 16:59.36 | dank_work | dpash: No. SLS would have been the original true Linux |
| 16:59.40 | dpash | Leeds: if she is using slack, debian is something a little different |
| 16:59.54 | Jenson | dpash: Debian is weird |
| 17:00.00 | nasrat | lol |
| 17:00.05 | dank_work | Debian is too political |
| 17:00.06 | formi | dank_work: linux is just a kernel, get that into your HEAAADD!!! |
| 17:00.11 | dank_work | It's just a fucking OS! |
| 17:00.18 | dpash | Jenson: no, you are just used to weirdness that when you don't have it around you get confused |
| 17:00.30 | Jenson | dpash: True |
| 17:00.32 | dank_work | formi: Yeah, I know. But I'm not that keen on calling it GNU/Linux |
| 17:00.40 | dank_work | Too long-winded and political |
| 17:00.52 | dpash | Jenson: we haven;t had a good distro flame in a while |
| 17:00.57 | formi | dank_work: linux distro would do just fine |
| 17:00.58 | marko85_uk | for a newbies |
| 17:01.01 | dank_work | formi: True |
| 17:01.05 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 17:01.13 | Jenson | dpash: My confusion isn't here today, he's at home being lazy lol |
| 17:01.27 | formi | marko85_uk: did you think it was the online version of the Kama Suttra ?? |
| 17:01.39 | dank_work | Well, I'd say FreeBSD, not what some drugged-out loser starts to install on your computer |
| 17:01.45 | marko85_uk | maybe i wouldnt read it tho i went trough all the possitions |
| 17:01.46 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 17:01.49 | marko85_uk | see ya everyone |
| 17:01.58 | dank_work | And with that, I'm off. Stargate is far better than distro wars |
| 17:02.02 | Jenson | See ya Dan |
| 17:02.15 | formi | dank_work: i can folow both at the same time |
| 17:02.28 | Leeds | stargate sucks... |
| 17:02.33 | formi | dank_work: upgrade your brain |
| 17:02.37 | dpash | lol |
| 17:02.46 | dpash | Jenson: what is weird about debian? |
| 17:02.55 | dpash | s/is/do you consider/ |
| 17:03.17 | Jenson | dpash: I dunno, I wasnt paying any attention |
| 17:03.24 | dpash | argh |
| 17:03.44 | dpash | eye69 wants a slap |
| 17:03.50 | eye69 | Naaaah |
| 17:03.57 | eye69 | I want a gaming device |
| 17:04.03 | eye69 | Other than a PC |
| 17:04.15 | dpash | eye69: so why get a PC then? |
| 17:04.29 | Leeds | eye69: playstation is nice and cheap |
| 17:04.40 | eye69 | Because all the games get released for the consoles |
| 17:04.41 | formi | eye69: how are you sleeping nowadays? |
| 17:04.47 | eye69 | formi: Haven't got it yet |
| 17:05.00 | nasrat | plus ps2 and psone are mips boxen :) |
| 17:05.00 | eye69 | Should get it on tuesday |
| 17:05.16 | dpash | eye69: xbox=PC |
| 17:05.26 | eye69 | dpash: Don't mark words |
| 17:05.40 | eye69 | I know what it is, but I can't play xbox games on a normal PC |
| 17:05.48 | Jenson | I have an N64...but I dont like gamesconsoles |
| 17:06.01 | eye69 | There are like loads of games coming out for xbox and ps2 |
| 17:06.46 | Leeds | and SPARC, x86 and PowerPC :-) |
| 17:07.06 | Leeds | and ARM... |
| 17:07.31 | nasrat | I have mips (psone and 2), sparc (ss5, javastation), 8086, x86, ppc - no arm or alpah |
| 17:07.48 | Jenson | Yesterday we were looking at the tshirts in this shop...and they had an Atari one..and zimm is like 'thats so outdated uber-geekness' Then we decided we both owned Ataris anyway lol |
| 17:07.57 | Leeds | GBA is ARM, and iPAQ is ARM... |
| 17:08.38 | nasrat | Leeds: yeah but don't have either of those. I was going to get a LART at one point for doing some embedded stuff. Oh and I have an NEC V20 |
| 17:08.50 | Leeds | hell, my phone is probably ARM, and my old camera is embedded SPARC :-) |
| 17:09.02 | Jenson | Fucking hell, my dad is having a go at me for being online blocking the phonelies again |
| 17:09.06 | Leeds | and I've got a 68k somewhere - an old Palm :-) |
| 17:09.11 | Leeds | seeya Jenson :-) |
| 17:09.15 | Jenson | I told him I'll get ADSL when I can |
| 17:09.22 | Jenson | But he says he dont want ADSL |
| 17:09.35 | Jenson | Leeds: That doesnt mean I'm gonna move lol |
| 17:09.41 | dpash | Jenson: why not? |
| 17:09.50 | Jenson | dpash: God knows |
| 17:10.19 | dpash | If you pay he has no financial reasons and it doens;t require any changes to your phone equitment |
| 17:10.31 | dpash | bar putting a microfilter on each phone socket |
| 17:10.41 | Leeds | it's very confusing using a web browser without a throbber... |
| 17:11.19 | Jenson | How the hell did I just get charged 55p on one library book being one day overdue...and not charged on the other two which are on the same rate and everything |
| 17:11.40 | Leeds | maybe someone else wanted that one? |
| 17:11.49 | Jenson | Leeds: Nope, coz it let me renew it |
| 17:11.51 | formi | Jenson: did you keep the receipt? |
| 17:12.00 | Jenson | I've lost my library card anyway |
| 17:12.15 | formi | no point complaining then |
| 17:13.46 | Jenson | I suppose I better get offline before he comes in here to whinge again |
| 17:13.50 | Jenson | I'll be back later |
| 17:14.08 | Jenson | Bye |
| 17:14.09 | Leeds | what am I doing using a shitty little cut-down browser? I've got a decent PC! Mozilla, here I come! |
| 17:14.42 | formi | Leeds: you have a decent "everything". |
| 17:15.06 | Leeds | many things, yes... I'm a consumer |
| 17:15.16 | dpash | Leeds: konq? |
| 17:15.25 | nasrat | lynx |
| 17:15.27 | formi | Leeds: you mean pollutant |
| 17:15.27 | dpash | Leeds: what browser are you using atm |
| 17:15.30 | Leeds | dpash: I don't run k-stuff! |
| 17:15.34 | dpash | nasrat: I prefer w3m |
| 17:15.39 | Leeds | I was using skipstone... I'm back to mozilla |
| 17:15.42 | nasrat | w3m is nice too |
| 17:15.43 | dpash | Leeds: you don't know what you are missing |
| 17:15.54 | dpash | Leeds: isn;t skipstoen win32? |
| 17:16.12 | formi | dpash: the windows version yes |
| 17:16.13 | Leeds | dpash: um, no :-) or it wouldn't be running on my box |
| 17:17.42 | formi | Leeds: it would rather be "running away from your box" |
| 17:18.33 | Leeds | true |
| 17:18.57 | formi | skipping the garden stones, probably |
| 17:23.06 | dpash | anyone know some talks I can do for my local lug? |
| 17:23.50 | *** join/#gllug Jenson (1000@dial81-135-120-94.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 17:23.57 | Leeds | which lug is that? |
| 17:24.02 | Leeds | you could do my bash talk :-) |
| 17:24.19 | Jenson | Does KDE have a CDburner software...or do I have to use the console based one? |
| 17:25.05 | formi | KBurn or some stupid name similar to that, just guessing |
| 17:25.14 | murble | is someone going to do a bin/csh talk? |
| 17:25.29 | Leeds | murble: I *hope* not |
| 17:25.33 | formi | yes murble is |
| 17:25.50 | murble | why you should bin bash. |
| 17:26.11 | Leeds | except that we're a LUG, not a nasty old Unix UG |
| 17:26.36 | Leeds | that is (nasty old Unix) UG |
| 17:26.40 | dpash | Leeds: I'm already going to do a shell scripting talk |
| 17:26.52 | dpash | Jenson: k3b |
| 17:27.07 | Leeds | dpash: my other subject is Linux-on-iPAQ... bit specialist :-) |
| 17:27.08 | murble | ibot, lart debian base dependancies on bash. |
| 17:27.14 | dpash | csh is broken |
| 17:27.18 | Jenson | dpash: not that either |
| 17:27.29 | Jenson | Dont make me boot into Win to burn CDs |
| 17:27.39 | dpash | murble: I don't have bash as my sh |
| 17:27.51 | formi | Jenson: you only need a lighter |
| 17:27.57 | dpash | Leeds: if you fancy coming to MK that would be great |
| 17:28.01 | Jenson | formi: lol I've got one |
| 17:28.10 | Leeds | dpash: what are the speed bumps like? |
| 17:28.23 | dpash | Leeds: what speed bumbs? |
| 17:28.34 | murble | Leeds: I think they've advanced to anti leeds car devices. |
| 17:28.49 | Leeds | dpash: the speed bumps in MK... are they killers? |
| 17:28.49 | murble | dpash: like in oxfrog. |
| 17:29.04 | dpash | Leeds: I don't recall seeing any |
| 17:29.08 | Jenson | I dont think I've even installed my CDburner |
| 17:29.09 | Jenson | Nevermind |
| 17:29.10 | Leeds | woohoo! |
| 17:29.18 | dpash | Leeds: MK is mostly dual carriage way |
| 17:29.19 | Jenson | Better get offline and boot into Win |
| 17:29.23 | Jenson | See ya |
| 17:29.24 | murble | dpash: maybe he'll come if you pay for any car damage? |
| 17:29.28 | dpash | bye Jenson |
| 17:29.30 | dpash | crap |
| 17:29.32 | murble | Leeds: train from Euston. |
| 17:29.39 | dpash | murble: indeed |
| 17:29.44 | dpash | I can pick you up if you want |
| 17:30.15 | Leeds | I'd drive... straight up the motorway... |
| 17:30.16 | dpash | murble: 16.60GBP from euston include underground |
| 17:30.18 | murble | or train from aylusbury and bus |
| 17:30.23 | murble | s/from/to/ |
| 17:30.36 | dpash | murble: M1 J1{3,4} |
| 17:30.38 | murble | which should work out cheaper. |
| 17:30.56 | Leeds | since I live at M1 J2... |
| 17:31.27 | murble | Leeds: you should be a mk lug regular then. |
| 17:31.39 | formi | murble: talk > klepto |
| 17:32.26 | dpash | Leeds: would you be interested in a couple of months time? |
| 17:33.02 | Leeds | SpudUAway: possibly... |
| 17:33.05 | Leeds | ugh |
| 17:33.08 | Leeds | dpash: possibly... |
| 17:33.15 | dpash | Leeds: cool |
| 17:33.17 | Leeds | depends on exactly when, what, and so on |
| 17:33.22 | dpash | I need to get the numbers up first |
| 17:33.24 | Leeds | pay scale, etc. |
| 17:33.27 | dpash | the last meeting was 2 people |
| 17:33.38 | dpash | but they don't do talks |
| 17:33.53 | dpash | so the only reason for going was the OU's bandwidth |
| 17:34.04 | Leeds | 2 people? not much of a talk - more a chat :-) |
| 17:34.09 | dpash | but now everyone has ADSL (except me) so no one goes |
| 17:34.32 | murble | dpash: so turn off collossus on the morning of the LUG |
| 17:34.55 | dpash | Leeds: yeah exactly so I've challenged someone to do a talk to folow me |
| 17:35.10 | dpash | and it appears that people are actually interested in coming |
| 17:35.16 | dpash | shock horror |
| 17:35.59 | dpash | but then our lugmaster appears to have gone AWOL |
| 17:36.46 | murble | do you need a lugmaster to go down thte pub? |
| 17:39.53 | dpash | murble: no, but we do need them to update the website occasionly |
| 17:41.04 | murble | dpash: oh who hosts it? |
| 17:41.11 | dpash | lug.org.uk |
| 17:41.18 | dpash | I guess |
| 17:41.23 | dpash | let me check |
| 17:41.23 | murble | oh dear. |
| 17:41.57 | dpash | http://www.mk.lug.org.uk/ |
| 17:42.49 | dpash | myth.co.uk |
| 17:56.32 | dpash | hi Huhn |
| 17:56.42 | Leeds | evening |
| 17:56.47 | Huhn | re |
| 17:56.59 | Huhn | hi gllugers :) |
| 17:57.07 | dpash | Huhn: I haven't heard form you in a while. how are you |
| 17:57.53 | Huhn | dpash: thanks, I'm fine, how are you? |
| 17:59.11 | dpash | Huhn: er interesting |
| 17:59.49 | Huhn | interesting? |
| 18:00.02 | Leeds | dpash: I suggest putting it in at the top |
| 18:00.26 | Leeds | or at the bottom, if you've got a bottom-feeding tray |
| 18:00.45 | dpash | Leeds: I know where to put the paper, but I don't know which way up the paper should go |
| 18:01.41 | Leeds | I'm guessing this isn't blank paper :-) |
| 18:02.10 | dpash | yes |
| 18:02.14 | dpash | it is blank |
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| 18:02.24 | Leeds | then how does it matter? |
| 18:02.55 | dpash | because they have a right way up and a wrong way up |
| 18:03.01 | dankolb | Evening |
| 18:03.12 | dpash | nice to get the right face up |
| 18:04.10 | Leeds | really? standard paper has different sides? |
| 18:04.11 | Huhn | hi dankolb |
| 18:05.14 | dpash | Leeds: yep |
| 18:05.29 | dpash | check a ream of paper and it will have an arrow on it |
| 18:05.38 | dpash | pointing to the face that you should print on |
| 18:05.50 | dpash | Leeds: because of the way that it is cut |
| 18:07.28 | Leeds | huh... live and learn, eh? |
| 18:07.39 | dpash | Leeds: indeed |
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| 18:11.28 | Huhn | hi Jenson |
| 18:11.32 | Jenson | hey Huhn |
| 18:11.43 | Jenson | :) |
| 18:11.46 | Jenson | How are you Huhn? |
| 18:12.21 | Huhn | Jenson: thanks, fine, you had a nice Sunday? |
| 18:12.32 | Jenson | Huhn: Lazy Sunday yeah lol |
| 18:21.20 | dpash | night all |
| 18:21.29 | dankolb | night dpash |
| 18:21.34 | Jenson | lol night dpash |
| 18:21.36 | formi | dpash: ntpdate |
| 18:22.41 | dpash | formi: yes I know it is only 18.22 |
| 18:22.54 | dpash | formi: but I won't be returning tonight |
| 18:23.22 | dankolb | :) |
| 18:25.48 | formi | don't try it, |
| 18:27.31 | dankolb | What strange words? Invite? |
| 18:27.54 | formi | wycombe, bed in the shire.... |
| 18:28.11 | dankolb | High Wycombe is the larger town near to where I live |
| 18:28.59 | formi | dankolb: I do know they are names of places, |
| 18:29.42 | dankolb | :) |
| 18:33.37 | Jenson | Time for TV seeya |
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| 18:57.43 | OrangeSkies | hi all... is it a crappy idea to attach a heat sink to a graphics card with regular double sided tape? |
| 18:58.29 | dankolb | Yes |
| 18:58.59 | OrangeSkies | =[ |
| 18:59.14 | OrangeSkies | i couldnt find anyone selling the proper conductive stuff today |
| 19:00.20 | eye69 | OrangeSkies: Forget it. It wont help. |
| 19:00.49 | formi | http://theregister.co.uk/content/28/29774.html |
| 19:01.08 | formi | worth reading |
| 19:01.39 | OrangeSkies | eye69: forget what, the regular double sided idea? |
| 19:01.45 | eye69 | Yes. |
| 19:02.21 | OrangeSkies | ok... |
| 19:02.28 | formi | eye69: is it being built? |
| 19:09.55 | formi | relatives knocking on the door? |
| 19:10.03 | dankolb | Friends arrived about 10 mins ago |
| 19:10.26 | formi | friend == meatspace ?? |
| 19:10.37 | dankolb | Yeah. |
| 19:10.46 | dankolb | Meatspace, as oppose to virtualspace (i.e. online) |
| 19:10.57 | formi | Im getting old |
| 19:11.00 | dankolb | Ah :) |
| 19:11.08 | dankolb | C'ya later, anywho |
| 19:12.13 | OrangeSkies | i found a celeron 466 at the recycling center today |
| 19:12.23 | OrangeSkies | 8.6 gig hard disk included |
| 19:12.34 | OrangeSkies | ati rage 8mb graphics card |
| 19:12.38 | formi | address please ??? |
| 19:12.44 | OrangeSkies | in built modem |
| 19:12.47 | OrangeSkies | la la la |
| 19:12.55 | stephen | OrangeSkies: bastard |
| 19:13.05 | OrangeSkies | stephen: haha i know i couldnt believe it |
| 19:13.10 | formi | post me the harddisk keep the rest |
| 19:13.36 | OrangeSkies | ten minutes later this huge lorry scooped up everything else and destroyed it |
| 19:13.39 | SpudUAway | Yeah, I'm with Formi, where is this magical recycling centre? |
| 19:13.44 | OrangeSkies | hehe no way it's mine |
| 19:13.55 | OrangeSkies | SpudUAway: kentish town |
| 19:14.01 | formi | OrangeSkies: would you swap the harddisk for 100 ide zip drive? |
| 19:14.03 | OrangeSkies | across the road from the tube station |
| 19:14.07 | formi | fuck |
| 19:14.10 | SpudUAway | I speak for Formi when I say FFS! |
| 19:14.11 | formi | fuck |
| 19:14.12 | OrangeSkies | formi: i need it sorry! |
| 19:14.16 | SpudUAway | ;-) |
| 19:14.19 | OrangeSkies | =] |
| 19:14.30 | formi | you are raiding my home turf |
| 19:14.38 | OrangeSkies | it's got all the guys old files still on it... some of them very dodgy lol |
| 19:14.41 | Huhn | hi SpudUAway |
| 19:14.42 | stephen | yer, I'm after a new hard disk too, probably end up buying one from my uni |
| 19:14.45 | SpudUAway | You just took it or paid some token amount? |
| 19:14.52 | formi | you better hidde if you see me comming |
| 19:14.53 | OrangeSkies | formi: where ya from? the dude who it belonged to is from tufnell park |
| 19:15.11 | OrangeSkies | SpudUAway: i just took it, they charge you a fortune if they think you want something |
| 19:15.21 | OrangeSkies | and it was only gonna get destroyed |
| 19:15.32 | SpudUAway | OrangeSkies: So you stole it? |
| 19:15.45 | OrangeSkies | SpudUAway: if that makes you feel better then yes, yes i did |
| 19:15.51 | SpudUAway | Hi Huhn, how's the game? |
| 19:16.09 | SpudUAway | OrangeSkies: Kewl, result, etc. |
| 19:16.13 | OrangeSkies | i also nabbed a dutch satellite decoder hehe |
| 19:16.33 | OrangeSkies | formi: unlucky mate lol |
| 19:16.33 | SpudUAway | Did they have much in the way of push bikes? |
| 19:16.37 | Huhn | SpudUAway: they won, leading now 2:1 in the best of 7 series |
| 19:16.55 | OrangeSkies | SpudUAway: they actually did!!! there was two of them but i dunno if theyll have survived the afternoon |
| 19:17.20 | OrangeSkies | i didnt take a close look at them because of the computer |
| 19:17.34 | formi | OrangeSkies: actually I've never thought of going there for skipp/diving |
| 19:17.43 | formi | OrangeSkies: scary place at night |
| 19:17.45 | SpudUAway | How is it laid out that you can just take stuff? Is there no security? |
| 19:17.53 | formi | OrangeSkies: big fences |
| 19:17.57 | OrangeSkies | formi: lol i was helping my mum get rid of some garden rubbish |
| 19:18.27 | OrangeSkies | SpudUAway: the computer was in the area full up with fridges and dishwashers etc |
| 19:18.38 | OrangeSkies | it wasnt in the 'to keep' section by the office |
| 19:18.48 | OrangeSkies | that's where the bikes were |
| 19:19.31 | formi | OrangeSkies: i used to work for pizza hut many moons ago, used to deliver to the place quite often |
| 19:20.08 | OrangeSkies | formi: was that when the center used to be off parkway? |
| 19:20.48 | formi | nope |
| 19:21.03 | OrangeSkies | can't have been too long ago then lol |
| 19:21.07 | formi | by the bmw garage |
| 19:21.18 | formi | 4.5 years ago |
| 19:21.27 | OrangeSkies | that place is right behind my house |
| 19:21.38 | OrangeSkies | ah i forgot how long it's been |
| 19:22.19 | OrangeSkies | i'm gonna email the guy cos i've got the impression someone nicked his pc and then chucked it out when they found out it wasnt worth much |
| 19:22.38 | OrangeSkies | it's still got all his docs n stuff on it, work essays n things like that |
| 19:22.54 | formi | you live in holmes road? |
| 19:23.03 | OrangeSkies | inkerman road =] |
| 19:23.09 | SpudUAway | OrangeSkies: If you turn it into a reward the |
| 19:23.19 | SpudUAway | then I will be upset! |
| 19:23.23 | OrangeSkies | haha |
| 19:23.24 | OrangeSkies | me too |
| 19:23.34 | OrangeSkies | but if it's someone elses.... :/ |
| 19:24.10 | OrangeSkies | hehe |
| 19:24.34 | Huhn | :)) |
| 19:24.36 | SpudUAway | Anything juicy in the docs? |
| 19:24.45 | Huhn | SpudUAway: tell him not to hit the reset button this tme |
| 19:24.46 | OrangeSkies | lol there is actually |
| 19:24.59 | OrangeSkies | the list of 'sick notes' is quite amusing |
| 19:25.15 | OrangeSkies | i need to get the bugger networked so i can paste stuff |
| 19:25.29 | SpudUAway | Post them publicly, asking if anyone recognises them! |
| 19:25.51 | OrangeSkies | lol |
| 19:26.53 | OrangeSkies | a 'mrs susan ward' took 10 days off.... becuase of a migraine |
| 19:27.02 | OrangeSkies | good on her |
| 19:27.14 | SpudUAway | I can see the email now - "I've found this computer with lots of really embarrassing stuff on it. Is it yours?" |
| 19:27.45 | OrangeSkies | lol |
| 19:27.51 | OrangeSkies | i can't lose |
| 19:28.00 | SpudUAway | 10 days? Wow. You sure that doesn't say 'because of a migration.' |
| 19:28.20 | OrangeSkies | i found 'young' 'filthy' and 'lolita' in the list of recent searchs hahaha |
| 19:28.37 | stephen | and why were you searching for those terms? |
| 19:28.59 | stephen | :P |
| 19:29.02 | OrangeSkies | lol |
| 19:29.25 | OrangeSkies | i expanded the list of stuff that had already been searched for ACTUALLY ^_^ |
| 19:29.40 | stephen | *cough* *cough* |
| 19:30.28 | OrangeSkies | lol my conscience is clean! |
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| 19:30.34 | SpudUAway | What, you've added dodgy stuff like 'Slackware'? |
| 19:32.33 | Huhn | wb Jenson |
| 19:32.59 | Jenson | ty Huhn |
| 19:34.26 | Jenson | No wonder whe mouse has been doing more weird shit than normal...the infrared thing was buried under loads of CDs lol |
| 19:35.39 | SpudUAway | RF wireless is a godsend I think. |
| 19:36.18 | murble | everyone should use IR wireless or altrasonic wireless. |
| 19:37.14 | SpudUAway | Maplins do an RF wireless keyboard / mouse set for £39. A new store opened up in Central London, as a special they had them for £19. Great for the kids computer, If I don't want them to use the machine I can easily just lock the keyboard up! |
| 19:37.31 | Jenson | lol SpudUAway |
| 19:37.52 | SpudUAway | altrasonic = ultrasonic, cruel to dogs or what! |
| 19:38.40 | SpudUAway | Before I got the keyboard I was just left with the option of locking the children up. |
| 19:40.04 | Jenson | All I have to do to keep my parents off here is switch the computer up....lilo is half dead and they'd end up in minimal install Debian lol |
| 19:40.56 | SpudUAway | Hmm, Jenson, before you know it, they will have called a 'professional' in to 'correct' the 'situation'. |
| 19:41.24 | Huhn | :) |
| 19:41.43 | Jenson | SpudUAway: I told them to call in tech support to fix the Win sound...coz both me and zimm can't sort it |
| 19:50.18 | Jenson | Have I scared everyone away or something? |
| 19:50.25 | SpudUAway | Yes. |
| 19:50.56 | Jenson | lol |
| 19:50.58 | Jenson | thought so |
| 19:51.07 | Huhn | Jenson: no, I'm just falling asleep in front of the TV here.. |
| 19:53.02 | Jenson | I can't d/l 29MB without a d/l manager |
| 19:53.15 | formi | Jenson: wget |
| 19:53.27 | Huhn | Jenson: why not use wget? |
| 19:53.55 | Jenson | Coz I used to use a nice Win version with a nice GUI |
| 19:54.01 | Jenson | I dont wanna have to use console |
| 19:54.13 | Huhn | Jenson: but console is cool :) and fast |
| 19:54.16 | Huhn | and easy to handle |
| 19:54.28 | Jenson | Huhn: And I have no clue how to use it |
| 19:54.31 | Huhn | and most of the tools you need are installed already :) |
| 19:54.37 | Huhn | Jenson: ok, ask us :) |
| 19:55.23 | Jenson | Oh Dinner is ready |
| 19:55.27 | Jenson | BBS |
| 19:56.54 | Leeds | until my religious cousin called to invite me for family/religious/food stuff :-) |
| 19:57.28 | SpudUAway | Is there a complete mix of 'Itchy and Scratchy' available? |
| 19:57.47 | Leeds | you mean the music? |
| 19:57.59 | Huhn | isn't that a cartoon series? |
| 19:58.03 | Leeds | not that I know, anyway |
| 19:58.17 | Leeds | Itchy & Scratchy is a cartoon series in the Simpsons |
| 19:58.43 | murble | Leeds: i know someone who teachs herada(sp?) or somthing like that on sunday... |
| 19:58.55 | Leeds | murble: cheder |
| 19:59.00 | SpudUAway | Sometimes the only reason to watch. I would like the 'mini-toon' compiled' onto one easy to handle medium, then just leave it on loop. |
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| 20:11.12 | Huhn | goodluck |
| 20:12.03 | murble | SpudUaway: you can't just lock them in their rooms? |
| 20:12.10 | Jenson | Huhn: Do you have children? |
| 20:12.15 | SpudUAway | Who needs luck when you have a club. |
| 20:12.21 | Huhn | Jenson: no |
| 20:12.27 | Huhn | SpudUAway: :) |
| 20:12.43 | Jenson | SpudUAway: How old are you're child/children |
| 20:17.13 | formi | hi Huhn |
| 20:17.33 | Huhn | hi formi |
| 20:18.14 | formi | Huhn: did you go to the churc this morning? |
| 20:18.28 | formi | s/churc/church |
| 20:18.28 | Huhn | formi: no, why? :) |
| 20:19.01 | formi | little bird told be you enjoyed the visit to the kings cross one |
| 20:19.13 | formi | s/be/me |
| 20:20.14 | Huhn | formi: yes, that was nice |
| 20:20.17 | Jenson | I got out of bed about 11:15 |
| 20:20.50 | murble | which, what? |
| 20:21.42 | Jenson | I went to bed at 10:30, so I was very lazy lol |
| 20:22.05 | Huhn | 4 hours is not enough, formi :) |
| 20:22.19 | formi | murble: you are not religious so ... |
| 20:22.44 | formi | I was still stonned out of my mind |
| 20:22.55 | formi | well, better said I am still stonned |
| 20:23.08 | Huhn | stoned? |
| 20:23.16 | formi | high as a kite |
| 20:23.23 | Huhn | :)) |
| 20:23.26 | Huhn | mate tea? |
| 20:23.33 | murble | formi: your housemates been bring stuff home? |
| 20:23.41 | Jenson | lol that's all we need, formi being stoned |
| 20:23.45 | formi | it was some other kind of plant |
| 20:23.47 | Huhn | you've finally decided that smoking that crap is better than drinking it? :) |
| 20:24.07 | formi | Jenson: remenber what I told you earlier |
| 20:24.15 | Jenson | formi: yeah |
| 20:24.20 | formi | Jenson: that is a serious warning |
| 20:24.33 | Jenson | formi: Yeah, I remember |
| 20:26.10 | formi | and also the ability of being completely stupid when normal |
| 20:26.20 | Jenson | lol |
| 20:26.25 | Huhn | formi: geek :) |
| 20:26.47 | Jenson | formi: Let me fuck myself up yeah, I'll learn from it |
| 20:31.21 | Leeds | hmm... TiVo is acting up :-( |
| 20:34.48 | formi | that is freebie |
| 20:35.06 | Jenson | How do I download skins for XMMS....do I just download Winamp skins? |
| 20:35.48 | formi | skins are just a few small gifs plus some text files |
| 20:36.03 | Leeds | download the zip file |
| 20:36.18 | Leeds | put it in ~/.xmms/Skins |
| 20:36.22 | Jenson | yeah Leeds, where from? |
| 20:37.46 | formi | xmms.org |
| 20:38.01 | Jenson | ok cool |
| 20:38.15 | Jenson | I look later, this download it hogging all my bandwidth |
| 20:38.20 | Jenson | s/it/is |
| 20:39.00 | Jenson | Leeds: Have you got broadband? |
| 20:39.08 | Leeds | Jenson: of course :-) |
| 20:39.30 | Jenson | Leeds: About how long does a 30MB d/l take on broadband? |
| 20:39.55 | Leeds | 10 mins, give or take |
| 20:40.10 | Jenson | grrrr |
| 20:40.13 | Jenson | I need broadband |
| 20:40.35 | Jenson | it takes me about 15-20 mins to d/l an average length MP3 |
| 20:41.20 | Jenson | lol |
| 20:41.35 | Jenson | And my dad was whinging about me blocking the phonelines |
| 20:41.44 | Jenson | I said I'd get broadband when I can afford it |
| 20:41.53 | Jenson | But he says he doesnt want it for some reason |
| 20:45.37 | Leeds | maybe he doesn't want you spending more of your time chatting with weird blokes online? |
| 20:45.58 | Jenson | i think that might come into it |
| 20:46.24 | Jenson | but mostly about me taking over the phonelines pretty much all the time my parents are home to take calls |
| 20:46.38 | Jenson | We should get a second line |
| 20:46.48 | Jenson | But thats pointless if I want broadband |
| 20:47.52 | Jenson | :) |
| 20:51.01 | Jenson | Leeds: Which speed broadband have you got? |
| 20:51.51 | murble | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:52.28 | Leeds | 512/256 |
| 20:52.31 | Jenson | Well it's time to go have a bath methinks |
| 20:52.35 | Jenson | cool Leeds |
| 20:52.44 | Jenson | lol formi i aint a kid |
| 20:53.06 | Jenson | I'll see you guys later |
| 20:53.19 | formi | maybe just halfway |
| 20:55.53 | pdr | hello? |
| 20:56.10 | murble | hi |
| 20:56.13 | Huhn | hi Pete |
| 20:56.16 | Huhn | how's life? |
| 20:56.27 | pdr | pretty good |
| 20:56.42 | Huhn | fine :) |
| 20:56.44 | pdr | and you? where are you now? |
| 20:57.36 | pdr | murble: why? |
| 20:58.45 | murble | pdr: mother wants to use the interweb. |
| 20:59.10 | murble | and i'm using her machine because it has a nice tft display. |
| 20:59.24 | pdr | :-) |
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| 21:15.51 | OrangeSkies | help! |
| 21:15.59 | OrangeSkies | i just blew up my computer! haha |
| 21:16.24 | Leeds | bang! |
| 21:16.31 | OrangeSkies | yeah! |
| 21:16.34 | OrangeSkies | just like that |
| 21:16.45 | OrangeSkies | i thought the voltage selector was the on/off switch lol |
| 21:16.51 | Leeds | I've blown up a monitor... |
| 21:16.53 | Leeds | oops! |
| 21:16.59 | Leeds | might be time for a new PSU |
| 21:17.01 | OrangeSkies | i've knackered the power supply |
| 21:17.03 | pdr | did any smoke come out? |
| 21:17.13 | OrangeSkies | no but it made a helluvva burning smell |
| 21:17.29 | OrangeSkies | ah well easy come easy go |
| 21:17.30 | pdr | that would be the odour of ozone |
| 21:17.38 | OrangeSkies | yum |
| 21:17.44 | Leeds | you let the magic smoke out... |
| 21:18.01 | OrangeSkies | it went up my nose |
| 21:19.00 | OrangeSkies | ffs i wanted to play with that machine :'( |
| 21:22.45 | OrangeSkies | i have another power supply... but i'm me so i dunno if i should fiddle |
| 21:23.12 | Leeds | replacing a power supply is easy... but you need to take care with the power thing :-) |
| 21:23.27 | OrangeSkies | hehe yeh |
| 21:23.40 | Leeds | I've done it a couple of times |
| 21:23.54 | OrangeSkies | its really dark in my room so i couldnt see what i was doing... i just thought ah... power switch, thats what i need (theres no reset button) |
| 21:24.01 | OrangeSkies | ah im reassured no |
| 21:24.03 | OrangeSkies | no=now |
| 21:24.18 | Leeds | you're a fool |
| 21:24.20 | Leeds | :-) |
| 21:24.50 | OrangeSkies | haha tell me about it |
| 21:30.14 | formi | OrangeSkies: i used to work building machines |
| 21:30.29 | formi | OrangeSkies: i can pop around tommorrow and give you a quote |
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| 21:46.33 | Clyphox|zz | re |
| 21:46.48 | Huhn | hi Clyphox |
| 21:46.54 | Clyphox | Howzit |
| 21:47.29 | Huhn | fine, and you? |
| 21:47.54 | Clyphox | Alive :-) |
| 21:48.10 | Clyphox | Been trying to get netBSD onto one of my boxen since Friday.. |
| 21:48.27 | Clyphox | Now it seems it doen's like my CPU hehe.. sods law |
| 21:50.07 | Huhn | :) |
| 21:50.16 | Huhn | geek weekend.. |
| 21:50.24 | Clyphox | geek everyday hehe |
| 21:54.28 | formi | Clyphox: cpu ? which one? |
| 21:54.47 | *** join/#gllug Jenson (1000@dial81-135-95-89.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 21:58.25 | Clyphox | Cyrix |
| 21:58.35 | Clyphox | MII 2 |
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| 21:58.41 | Jenson | hiya Clyphox |
| 21:58.42 | Clyphox | er MII 300 |
| 21:58.47 | Clyphox | Hi Jenson :-) |
| 21:58.54 | Jenson | Hiya Dan |
| 21:58.58 | Clyphox | cpu_Debugger +0x4:C |
| 21:59.12 | dankolb | hi all |
| 21:59.42 | dankolb | Urgh. Smoking sucks. |
| 22:00.40 | Clyphox | True |
| 22:00.42 | Huhn | hi dankolb |
| 22:00.46 | dankolb | hi Huhn |
| 22:01.11 | dankolb | Urgh. Can't stand this T-Shirt. |
| 22:01.17 | Jenson | grrr, How the fuck to I get this 2 part d/l into one part |
| 22:01.27 | Jenson | s/to/do |
| 22:01.28 | dankolb | cat a b > c |
| 22:01.46 | Clyphox | cat b >> a |
| 22:01.56 | Jenson | ty |
| 22:02.16 | dankolb | Clyphox: My method maintains the originals, which is a Good Thing(TM) |
| 22:02.29 | Clyphox | so would dd |
| 22:02.38 | dankolb | True |
| 22:02.46 | dankolb | But dd wouldn't be much help in this case |
| 22:02.55 | Clyphox | I mean.. you could undo it if you check the size first.. |
| 22:03.11 | Jenson | I'm not sure why I'm about to install WINE onto a machine with Win98 on it anyway but still |
| 22:03.24 | dankolb | So you can run Windows stuff under Linux |
| 22:03.27 | dankolb | Hmm. |
| 22:03.30 | Clyphox | Wine Is NOT an Emulator! |
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| 22:03.44 | dankolb | If you already have Windows installed, you can use its DLLs, rather than the WINE native ones |
| 22:03.53 | Clyphox | I actually chucked Sage Line-50 onto my bosses Slack box on Friday. |
| 22:03.56 | dankolb | Jenson: You downloaded the latest source snapshot? |
| 22:03.59 | Leeds | dankolb: I can't stand your t-shirt either |
| 22:04.00 | dankolb | :) |
| 22:04.08 | resuDaed | someone unplugged the modem :-( |
| 22:04.10 | Clyphox | Had our accounts systems going in about 5 minutes.. he was impressed :-) |
| 22:04.12 | dankolb | :) |
| 22:04.16 | dankolb | resuDaed: Aww |
| 22:04.21 | Clyphox | Compiling it sucks.. |
| 22:04.23 | dankolb | Leeds: Nothing wrong with it |
| 22:04.32 | resuDaed | I com home to complaints 'the internet doesn't work' |
| 22:04.34 | dankolb | cd /usr/ports/emulators/wine ; make install |
| 22:04.43 | dankolb | And it all works |
| 22:04.48 | Clyphox | :-) |
| 22:04.48 | Jenson | I have no idea what I downloaded lol...I've forgotten in the whrs 10 mins it took me to d/l 30MB....which is quite impressive for my dialup |
| 22:04.50 | Leeds | <dankolb> Urgh. Can't stand this T-Shirt. |
| 22:05.00 | Jenson | s/2 hrs |
| 22:05.11 | resuDaed | how do I set up fonts under X, all I know i I need to cpoy them to fonts/ and something to do with re-hashing |
| 22:05.21 | dankolb | RTFHT :) |
| 22:05.32 | Clyphox | What fonts in particular? |
| 22:05.35 | dankolb | Leeds: Yeah. Stinks of smoke :( |
| 22:05.41 | Leeds | ah |
| 22:05.47 | Clyphox | xset fp rehash (iirc) |
| 22:05.58 | Jenson | dankolb: Hang it on a radiator, it'll be fine by tomorrow |
| 22:06.07 | resuDaed | Clyphox : not sure yet, all the ones fro X on the other box, and those from the win2k install preferably |
| 22:06.10 | dankolb | Or just move away from smoking people |
| 22:06.18 | Clyphox | .ttf fonts then right? |
| 22:06.38 | resuDaed | Clyphox : mostly, but probably some other variants |
| 22:07.00 | Clyphox | Suckers.. peer pressure |
| 22:07.03 | dankolb | Yeah |
| 22:07.09 | Clyphox | Most ppl start when young and can't stop |
| 22:07.12 | dankolb | Yeah. |
| 22:07.15 | dankolb | Too weak to say no. |
| 22:07.31 | Jenson | My ex took up smoking when he was 9...he's 19 now I think |
| 22:07.39 | Leeds | 9 |
| 22:07.42 | Leeds | ! |
| 22:07.52 | dankolb | That's just stupid. |
| 22:08.02 | Clyphox | I used to just "puff" Cigars and after only a month I realized I was hooked.. didn't even inhale |
| 22:08.02 | Jenson | He did marijuana for 6 mnts when he was 13....but quit it |
| 22:08.13 | Jenson | lol ty dankolb |
| 22:08.45 | dankolb | The first insults are always free. |
| 22:08.50 | Clyphox | lol |
| 22:08.51 | dankolb | Later on, they cost you... |
| 22:09.18 | Clyphox | phone.. |
| 22:09.35 | dankolb | "I'm just the shadow of the man I used to be, and it seems there's no way out of this for me" |
| 22:10.00 | Leeds | the first half, anyway |
| 22:11.04 | Leeds | plane |
| 22:11.16 | dankolb | Mmm :) Wonderful in-flight movies. |
| 22:11.23 | resuDaed | ok, I have copied the fonts accross, so how do I do the hashing thing? |
| 22:11.26 | dankolb | I'm going to have that pleasure in 1.5 weeks time |
| 22:11.47 | Jenson | grrrr fuck it, another fucking piece of software I'm incapabable of installing |
| 22:11.50 | Leeds | dankolb: that's from when I went to the far east... I had nearly 48 hours on planes in 4 weeks |
| 22:11.55 | dankolb | :) |
| 22:11.59 | resuDaed | Jenson : Windows 95? |
| 22:12.05 | Leeds | resuDaed: have you updated the fonts.dir and so on? |
| 22:12.08 | dankolb | I quite like planes |
| 22:12.22 | Jenson | dankolb: Ah, but you're weird :D |
| 22:12.23 | resuDaed | Leeds : no, I have just copied from one to t'other so ar |
| 22:12.32 | dankolb | Jenson: Nah - lots of people like planes |
| 22:12.35 | Leeds | resuDaed: ttf? xfree86 4.3? |
| 22:12.42 | dankolb | Or at least accept them as a mode of transport |
| 22:12.55 | dankolb | What did you download anyway? Source or binary? |
| 22:13.14 | resuDaed | Leeds : all of them, (from my other X) |
| 22:13.24 | Jenson | source i think, but i'm not in a sane enough state of mind to deal with linux right now |
| 22:13.28 | resuDaed | 100dpi, 75dpi, TTF etc |
| 22:13.35 | dankolb | You rarely are |
| 22:13.38 | Jenson | true |
| 22:13.42 | dankolb | Well, just read the README, then |
| 22:13.48 | dankolb | And it probably won't work properly |
| 22:13.49 | Leeds | resuDaed: mkfontdir in all the directories, then "xset +fp rehash" |
| 22:14.31 | resuDaed | root@gollum:/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts# xset +fp rehash |
| 22:14.31 | resuDaed | xset: bad font path element (#58), possible causes are: |
| 22:14.31 | resuDaed | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.31 | resuDaed | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.31 | resuDaed | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.49 | dankolb | Don't you need to run mkttfdir ? |
| 22:14.52 | dankolb | or ttfmkdir ? |
| 22:14.56 | dankolb | Or something similar? |
| 22:15.17 | Leeds | resuDaed: do all the directories in the font path exist with fonts.dir in them? |
| 22:15.32 | Jenson | WTF does tar (child): Wine1.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory |
| 22:15.32 | Jenson | tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now |
| 22:15.32 | Jenson | Tarragon: Child returned status 2 |
| 22:15.32 | Jenson | Tarragon: Error exit delayed from previous errors |
| 22:15.32 | Jenson | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.45 | Jenson | How did the word Tarragon get in there |
| 22:15.57 | Jenson | lol |
| 22:16.01 | resuDaed | Jenson : autocomplete |
| 22:16.07 | Jenson | i worked that out resuDaed |
| 22:16.08 | resuDaed | ibot: = OT: |
| 22:16.09 | | resuDaed: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 22:16.10 | dankolb | http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-fonts.html |
| 22:16.17 | Jenson | But I had thw WTF moment fist |
| 22:16.18 | dankolb | (that was to resuDaed) |
| 22:16.39 | resuDaed | ok, brb, moving box |
| 22:16.46 | dankolb | Guess what it means. |
| 22:16.52 | dankolb | The hint is there: "no such file or directory" |
| 22:17.15 | dankolb | ibot insult smelling of smoke |
| 22:17.25 | dankolb | ibot insult bloody idiots who smoke |
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| 22:17.31 | formi | Jenson: downloading wine, it prefer to drinks i |
| 22:18.19 | resuDaed | dankolb : can you repost that link? |
| 22:18.22 | Clyphox | hey |
| 22:18.25 | dankolb | http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-fonts.html |
| 22:18.31 | Jenson | wb Clyphox |
| 22:18.34 | resuDaed | thx |
| 22:18.34 | dankolb | wb |
| 22:19.02 | Clyphox | Thanks Jenson, dankolb |
| 22:19.09 | dankolb | :) |
| 22:19.38 | dankolb | .... |
| 22:19.41 | dankolb | Oops |
| 22:20.35 | Jenson | Whats the path to the XMMS skins direcorty...I forget it |
| 22:20.44 | Clyphox | .xmms/skins >? |
| 22:21.03 | dankolb | It's in the documentation... |
| 22:21.08 | Leeds | put it in ~/.xmms/Skins |
| 22:21.19 | Jenson | Besides I like the default skin...I'm gonna leave it, zimm can whinge about it all he wants |
| 22:21.27 | Jenson | I'm banning him from my computer anyway |
| 22:21.30 | dankolb | :) |
| 22:21.36 | dankolb | It's not his computer, anyway |
| 22:21.45 | Jenson | Idiot Debian using boyfriend of mine |
| 22:22.03 | resuDaed | Jenson : no comment |
| 22:22.07 | Jenson | dankolb: First thing he did was fucked about with my xconfig for ages...until I told him to leave it the fuck alone |
| 22:22.08 | dankolb | . o O (finally she realises) |
| 22:22.17 | resuDaed | (that wasn't anything to do with debian) |
| 22:22.56 | resuDaed | Jenson : he is a fan of kde ... does that not say enough |
| 22:23.05 | Jenson | resuDaed: I like KDE |
| 22:23.16 | Jenson | mainly coz\ I cant work out how to change to another one lol |
| 22:23.26 | resuDaed | Jenson : kde sucks if you want your box to respond in a decent time |
| 22:23.37 | dankolb | Look in the /etc/X11/xinit directory, IIRC |
| 22:23.40 | Jenson | I like it |
| 22:23.43 | Jenson | it's pretty |
| 22:23.48 | Jenson | lovely pretty icons |
| 22:24.02 | Jenson | Like the way XP is pretty, only useful |
| 22:24.14 | dankolb | XP is ugly |
| 22:24.17 | Clyphox | da |
| 22:24.22 | Jenson | Nah it aint |
| 22:24.29 | Jenson | its a shiity OS, but its pretty |
| 22:24.32 | dankolb | No it's not |
| 22:24.38 | Jenson | is |
| 22:24.41 | dankolb | Well, pretty for a 5-year-old, maybe |
| 22:24.51 | Jenson | About my mentalitiy then |
| 22:24.57 | dankolb | Yup |
| 22:24.59 | Jenson | ty |
| 22:29.31 | Clyphox | Quake III makes everytinh better |
| 22:30.35 | Jenson | So does sleep |
| 22:30.39 | Jenson | Oh and kissing |
| 22:30.44 | Jenson | But that can fuck things up too |
| 22:30.48 | dankolb | Yes. |
| 22:30.55 | Clyphox | kissing doesn't do it for me |
| 22:31.03 | dankolb | Clyphox: Not even Nikki? |
| 22:31.05 | Clyphox | hugginh yes |
| 22:31.07 | Jenson | kissing is good |
| 22:31.17 | Jenson | hugging is good |
| 22:31.17 | Clyphox | hugging is the best |
| 22:31.20 | dankolb | Jenson: Yeah. Especially if you kiss other people |
| 22:31.22 | Jenson | i love hugging |
| 22:32.40 | resuDaed | Clyphox : I'd be inclined to agree with you .. much prefer a hug |
| 22:32.54 | dankolb | resuDaed: Agreed too |
| 22:33.17 | resuDaed | Clyphox : could I nick your printer conf files (ie the PS filters etc.) |
| 22:33.17 | Jenson | resuDaed: Hugging is cool, esp when you manage to find someone who isnt that much taller than you |
| 22:33.24 | resuDaed | Jenson : lol |
| 22:33.31 | resuDaed | I'm a short arse |
| 22:33.48 | Jenson | lol resuDaed remind me to hug you at the next meet |
| 22:34.28 | resuDaed | Jenson : I'll try, but I have appalling memory |
| 22:34.33 | resuDaed | (like my box) |
| 22:34.38 | Jenson | resuDaed: I probably won't forget |
| 22:35.05 | Jenson | I was scared to ask you for a hug last time after the whole managing to fuck up trying to say you were cute right infront of you and Alex |
| 22:35.12 | resuDaed | Clyphox : I think the compaq has more than 256MB RAM, I think it may be 288 possibly |
| 22:35.34 | *** part/#gllug pdr (~pdr@www.pdr.me.uk) |
| 22:36.12 | Clyphox | It was 356 at startup iirc |
| 22:36.24 | Clyphox | use append="mem=BLERG" |
| 22:36.44 | resuDaed | I'm sure I recall 29xxxxKb something |
| 22:36.53 | Clyphox | reboot? |
| 22:37.20 | resuDaed | Clyphox : I havn't even got it to boot yet, been setting up X properly on the front room box |
| 22:37.44 | resuDaed | I need to find it a home first |
| 22:37.58 | resuDaed | my bedroom doorway is a temporary thing |
| 22:38.13 | Jenson | lol |
| 22:38.22 | Jenson | sounds like a sensible place to me |
| 22:38.37 | Clyphox | Jenson, have you seen it? |
| 22:38.49 | resuDaed | Jenson : its not particularly small |
| 22:38.53 | resuDaed | or light |
| 22:38.55 | Jenson | lol |
| 22:39.12 | resuDaed | I was thinking of propping up my desk with it |
| 22:39.22 | Jenson | Clyphox: When you leaving to go to Aberdeen? |
| 22:39.48 | Clyphox | Not sure.. mid April I'm thinking.. |
| 22:40.07 | Jenson | Cool, you should stay til after the next gllug then :) |
| 22:41.35 | Jenson | I think it's time for bed now |
| 22:41.40 | Jenson | Goodnight guys |
| 22:41.40 | dankolb | night |
| 22:41.44 | Jenson | Seeya tomorrow |
| 22:41.47 | Jenson | Night Dan |
| 22:41.49 | resuDaed | night Jenson |
| 22:41.53 | Jenson | Night resuDaed |
| 22:41.56 | Clyphox | nn |
| 22:42.01 | Clyphox | damn.. look at the time! |
| 22:42.05 | Jenson | night Clyphox |
| 22:45.20 | resuDaed | ok, I've hazd it with waitng for debian to fix kmail, I am going to finish this server, download from pop3 and serve myself imap |
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| 22:45.49 | resuDaed | fonts can wait |
| 22:46.08 | marko85_uk | power to the people |
| 22:46.17 | marko85_uk | hi resuDaed |
| 22:46.26 | resuDaed | Clyphox : ty |
| 22:49.37 | resuDaed | set your browser to use proxy 'resudaed.com' and port '3128' |
| 22:49.42 | resuDaed | doh |
| 22:49.50 | resuDaed | was meant as a /msg |
| 22:49.52 | resuDaed | :-) |
| 22:50.22 | resuDaed | dankolb : I run an open proxy when I am not using my connection |
| 22:50.38 | Leeds | dankolb: it's not open :-) |
| 22:50.49 | marko85_uk | leeds can you find the mozilla file i need to download |
| 22:50.51 | resuDaed | I have no probs with people using my bandwidth (when I'm not) to bypass school/college proxies |
| 22:51.15 | resuDaed | I just wish someone had done it for me |
| 22:51.18 | marko85_uk | hehe resudaed the thing is you can not insert the proxy on my network |
| 22:51.33 | Clyphox | I never mind unless I'm Playing UrbanTerror or listening to radio |
| 22:51.55 | resuDaed | then you are limited to text browsing (another servcie I offer for my college friends) |
| 22:51.57 | Leeds | marko85_uk: nope... as I've said *many* times, I don't use RedHat... I build Mozilla from source and run it that way |
| 22:52.10 | marko85_uk | fine you dont want to help me its cool |
| 22:52.10 | marko85_uk | hehe |
| 22:52.11 | marko85_uk | joking |
| 22:52.37 | Leeds | marko85_uk: did you tell me which mozilla you're using? as in the version number? |
| 22:52.41 | dankolb | marko85_uk: ftp.mozilla.org |
| 22:52.55 | marko85_uk | did anyone have a problem with mozilla saying that they need to install RMS manager |
| 22:53.06 | Leeds | not RMS! PSM! |
| 22:53.08 | resuDaed | marko85_uk : nope |
| 22:53.14 | resuDaed | or that |
| 22:53.17 | Leeds | it's only another RedHat brokenness |
| 22:53.18 | marko85_uk | dankolb i am using 56 k so at the moment i just want to download the file i need |
| 22:53.21 | Huhn | PSM -- yeah |
| 22:53.39 | marko85_uk | not all of the mozilla |
| 22:54.25 | resuDaed | dankolb : give me a god reason for not sharing my *free* bandwidth?, is runnning a (stale) proxy a major security risk? |
| 22:54.47 | resuDaed | when my bandwitdh goes below my desried levels, I have a script to kill apache/squid |
| 22:54.50 | Leeds | resuDaed: it's an audit hole |
| 22:55.06 | resuDaed | Leeds : I don't do audits |
| 22:55.10 | dankolb | Do you want people abusing it, and getting you potentially into trouble? |
| 22:55.27 | Leeds | resuDaed: no, but as dan just implied - other people do |
| 22:55.28 | resuDaed | dankolb : like how? |
| 22:55.56 | resuDaed | or altnernativly, how can I semi-close it? |
| 22:56.04 | dankolb | ACLs |
| 22:56.04 | Leeds | acl |
| 22:56.05 | resuDaed | (some form of authenitication) |
| 22:56.10 | Leeds | dankolb: stop that! |
| 22:56.17 | marko85_uk | resuDaed i mean people can use it for all sorts of things |
| 22:56.18 | dankolb | Leeds: GMTA :) |
| 22:56.23 | Leeds | GMTA? |
| 22:56.23 | marko85_uk | i would be carefull if i was you |
| 22:56.31 | dankolb | Great Minds Think Alike |
| 22:56.36 | Leeds | ah, yes :-) |
| 22:56.46 | Leeds | see, resuDaed, even marko85_uk agrees with dan and me :-) |
| 22:56.47 | resuDaed | marko85_uk : such as? |
| 22:56.47 | dankolb | ibot gmta |
| 22:56.48 | | dankolb: wish i knew |
| 22:57.05 | dankolb | ibot GMTA is Great Minds Think Alike |
| 22:57.06 | | dankolb: okay |
| 22:57.09 | dankolb | ibot gmta |
| 22:57.10 | | gmta is, like, Great Minds Think Alike |
| 22:57.19 | Leeds | ibot gmta |
| 22:57.20 | | extra, extra, read all about it, gmta is Great Minds Think Alike |
| 22:57.24 | marko85_uk | resuDaed :) if i wanted to ISS a certain web site |
| 22:57.37 | marko85_uk | i wouldnt deffinitly do it from my box so instead i would use a proxy |
| 22:57.45 | marko85_uk | and do it from someone else box |
| 22:57.52 | resuDaed | I am going to write a cgi script so that people can 'unlock' their ips into the squid conf file for a lmiitied time |
| 22:58.11 | Leeds | ISS? |
| 22:58.19 | resuDaed | ISS? |
| 22:58.20 | marko85_uk | ISS bug |
| 22:58.30 | resuDaed | IIS? |
| 22:58.43 | resuDaed | (many bugs, standard issue :-)) |
| 22:59.02 | marko85_uk | i know its old but still there are websited running on ISS 4.0 and ISS 5 |
| 22:59.18 | resuDaed | marko85_uk : IIS |
| 22:59.27 | marko85_uk | maybe |
| 22:59.31 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 22:59.56 | dankolb | Internet Information Services |
| 22:59.57 | resuDaed | Internet Information Serives, t=M$'s pathetic excuse for a web server |
| 23:00.00 | *** join/#gllug pdr (~pdr@www.pdr.me.uk) |
| 23:00.05 | dankolb | wb pdr |
| 23:00.10 | resuDaed | wb pdr |
| 23:00.17 | marko85_uk | well the IIS most current one is pretty good |
| 23:00.25 | dankolb | resuDaed: What's wrong with a webserver using netcat and bash, eh? |
| 23:00.28 | resuDaed | marko85_uk : stop swearing |
| 23:00.29 | marko85_uk | i mean no one yet found a security bug in it |
| 23:00.36 | marko85_uk | sorry cant help it hehe |
| 23:00.39 | dankolb | Or, what's wrong with a webserver written in PostScript? |
| 23:00.49 | Leeds | ooh, ooh, asm! |
| 23:00.56 | resuDaed | marko85_uk : APACHE, Open Source |
| 23:01.04 | dankolb | Leeds: Web server in assembler? |
| 23:01.17 | resuDaed | I once wrote one in QBasic |
| 23:01.38 | dankolb | :) |
| 23:01.42 | marko85_uk | apache rules |
| 23:01.58 | Leeds | I once wrote a dial-up client (for BBSs) in qbasic, because I was babysitting somewhere where they had a quick modem, but no terminal emulator |
| 23:01.59 | marko85_uk | qbasic is really old? |
| 23:02.07 | resuDaed | using some seriously hacked winsock thingie I found somewhere online |
| 23:02.10 | dankolb | :) |
| 23:02.21 | resuDaed | marko85_uk : qbasic was microsofts only ever decent invention |
| 23:02.30 | resuDaed | well, that and GWBasic |
| 23:02.39 | marko85_uk | is it still old? |
| 23:02.53 | dankolb | Not that old. |
| 23:02.57 | Leeds | marko85_uk: it's a DOS thing, if that helps :-) |
| 23:02.59 | dankolb | Not compared to original BASIC |
| 23:03.09 | resuDaed | dankolb : QuickBasic was only an extension on QBasic, the feebie QB shipped was 1.1, Quick was 4.5 and 7.1 |
| 23:03.22 | dankolb | I've only ever used QB4.5 |
| 23:03.24 | dankolb | Never 7.1 |
| 23:03.28 | marko85_uk | Ok this was the first time i got a fatal error in linux |
| 23:03.30 | resuDaed | 4.5+ they allowed you to compile |
| 23:03.30 | dankolb | But it compiled to EXE!!! |
| 23:03.31 | marko85_uk | i opened start here |
| 23:03.33 | marko85_uk | and it crashed |
| 23:03.34 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 23:03.55 | resuDaed | dankolb : I can put a copy of 7. something online if I can find it |
| 23:04.04 | resuDaed | it was a suped up 4.5 |
| 23:04.10 | dankolb | Nice |
| 23:06.18 | marko85_uk | i so can not fine the RSM file that i need to download |
| 23:06.42 | dankolb | Sure it's not RPM? |
| 23:06.52 | Leeds | marko85_uk: it's a PSM file, and I've got no idea why RedHat separated it from Mozilla |
| 23:07.01 | resuDaed | marko85_uk : what distro? |
| 23:07.10 | resuDaed | RH? |
| 23:07.15 | Huhn | isn't PSM the password manager? |
| 23:07.23 | Huhn | apt suggested installing it.. |
| 23:07.34 | marko85_uk | i am just downloading mozilla again |
| 23:07.54 | Leeds | for everyone else... when marko85_uk tried to login to hotmail, mozilla told him to install PSM... |
| 23:08.05 | marko85_uk | but i do not understand why my download speed is only 1.8 kb/s |
| 23:08.23 | resuDaed | marko85_uk : probably at the other end |
| 23:08.35 | resuDaed | or you are using s crap isp |
| 23:08.43 | resuDaed | or you are using windows |
| 23:08.56 | resuDaed | or you have a 14400 modem |
| 23:09.02 | marko85_uk | fucking Onetel i swear they are the worst company ever |
| 23:09.09 | resuDaed | marko85_uk : they are |
| 23:09.29 | marko85_uk | how would you know |
| 23:09.56 | marko85_uk | and what is their network run on? |
| 23:10.11 | marko85_uk | 2 hours 44 min to download mozilla |
| 23:10.13 | pdr | psm=personal security manager |
| 23:10.25 | pdr | it manages passwords and lets you use https sites |
| 23:10.26 | marko85_uk | how can i determine what my speed is |
| 23:10.50 | Leeds | marko85_uk: pppstats -w1 |
| 23:11.12 | marko85_uk | pdr i kind of figured that out |
| 23:11.12 | marko85_uk | but i can not seem to find where to download it from |
| 23:11.29 | pdr | there's no rpm on the disks? |
| 23:11.36 | marko85_uk | what is that command again for looking at the speed is it "ppp i forgot the rest |
| 23:11.48 | Leeds | marko85_uk: pppstats -w1 |
| 23:12.03 | resuDaed | marko85_uk forget using the rpm, download the installer prog from mozilla.org |
| 23:12.30 | pdr | or use a better distro </bait> |
| 23:12.37 | Huhn | pdr: :) |
| 23:12.48 | marko85_uk | leeds this time it says 1420 |
| 23:12.48 | marko85_uk | i better reconnect |
| 23:12.48 | *** join/#gllug cupis (~paul@modem-3096.baboon.dialup.pol.co.uk) |
| 23:13.02 | marko85_uk | i am doing that |
| 23:13.02 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 23:13.06 | Leeds | marko85_uk: it could well be the other end... |
| 23:13.27 | Huhn | hi Paul |
| 23:13.31 | marko85_uk | resudaed is it possible to tell my computer to shut down in about 3 hours? |
| 23:13.31 | marko85_uk | so i can go to sleep |
| 23:13.34 | resuDaed | or usea better distro |
| 23:13.42 | resuDaed | marko man shutdown |
| 23:13.47 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 23:14.04 | marko85_uk | Leeds: It probably is |
| 23:14.08 | cupis | hi Huhn, hi everyone |
| 23:14.14 | pdr | hi cupis |
| 23:14.17 | resuDaed | shutdown -h 180 iirc |
| 23:14.23 | marko85_uk | but i want it to do that in 3 hours |
| 23:14.29 | cupis | hi pdr, how did it go? |
| 23:14.35 | resuDaed | marko85_uk 180 = 3*60 mins |
| 23:14.45 | pdr | hmm.. yeah, 'twas ok. |
| 23:14.48 | resuDaed | ie it will shutdown in exactly 3 hours |
| 23:15.01 | resuDaed | -h tells it to halt, ie dont reboot |
| 23:15.27 | dankolb | But does 'shutdown' automatically power off your computer? |
| 23:15.36 | marko85_uk | what does iirc stand for |
| 23:15.44 | dankolb | If I Remember Correctly |
| 23:15.48 | Leeds | dankolb: it does if you've got APM setup |
| 23:15.49 | resuDaed | ibotiirc |
| 23:15.51 | dankolb | ibot iirc |
| 23:15.52 | | i guess iirc is "if I recall correctly" |
| 23:16.00 | marko85_uk | well when it halts will it turn itself of? |
| 23:16.03 | dankolb | Leeds: +correctly |
| 23:16.15 | Leeds | and I think it's "shutdown -h +180" |
| 23:16.22 | marko85_uk | i typed it in and it beeped |
| 23:16.30 | resuDaed | Leeds : I don't think the + is mandatory |
| 23:16.36 | dankolb | at 02:16 halt |
| 23:16.36 | dankolb | :) |
| 23:16.37 | marko85_uk | i want it to cut the power as well |
| 23:16.56 | resuDaed | only works if you have the power managemnt set up on you box |
| 23:16.56 | dankolb | marko85_uk: Get an power-socket timer? |
| 23:17.00 | Leeds | resuDaed: it's in the man page :-) |
| 23:17.07 | resuDaed | dankolb : its what i'd do |
| 23:17.20 | resuDaed | Leeds : I know, but I've never used it, and its worked |
| 23:17.37 | Leeds | I just use ctrl-alt-del :-) |
| 23:17.44 | marko85_uk | dankolb why dont i pay someone to sit here |
| 23:17.44 | Huhn | wb formi |
| 23:17.53 | dankolb | marko85_uk: Because you don't have money? |
| 23:17.56 | dankolb | Or do you? |
| 23:18.00 | marko85_uk | and waits for the download to finish |
| 23:18.18 | marko85_uk | leeds |
| 23:18.18 | marko85_uk | so what should i do |
| 23:18.38 | marko85_uk | if i want that to happen? |
| 23:18.56 | formi | Huhn: ta |
| 23:18.59 | marko85_uk | i am actually really poor |
| 23:18.59 | marko85_uk | why do you think i use linux for its free |
| 23:19.16 | formi | did you start reading rute ? |
| 23:19.38 | dankolb | What is rute, anyway? |
| 23:19.44 | marko85_uk | formi addmit you are just jelouse |
| 23:19.44 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 23:20.02 | Leeds | dankolb: it's a newbie guide... |
| 23:20.07 | marko85_uk | guys is there a command that will turn the power of my pc of in 3 hours? |
| 23:20.07 | marko85_uk | ofcourse i have |
| 23:20.09 | dankolb | Ah, okay |
| 23:20.19 | dankolb | marko85_uk: Yes. |
| 23:20.22 | marko85_uk | actually to be honest i didnt but i will print it of in school tomorrow |
| 23:20.33 | dankolb | Assuming you've got APM turned on correctly |
| 23:20.39 | resuDaed | marko85_uk : we just told you, a combination of 'shutdown' and a socket timer |
| 23:20.43 | formi | Leeds: is not completely for newbies, i found things i didn't know |
| 23:20.53 | dankolb | Does your machine automatically turn off when you type 'halt'? |
| 23:21.01 | marko85_uk | formi is jeloius on me |
| 23:21.17 | marko85_uk | dankolb would you be kind enough and to tell me what the command is |
| 23:21.34 | marko85_uk | when i do shut down it does |
| 23:21.34 | marko85_uk | but when i halt the system it just ends with system halted |
| 23:21.44 | formi | marko85_uk: maybe im jealous of not being able to ask so many times the same question |
| 23:21.49 | dankolb | Ah. So you can't automatically power off |
| 23:22.07 | Leeds | marko85_uk: you've been told what the command is at least 3 or 4 times |
| 23:22.38 | marko85_uk | formi chill |
| 23:23.00 | marko85_uk | well when i go to redhat and click on shut down and press ok |
| 23:23.00 | marko85_uk | it turns itself of |
| 23:23.05 | resuDaed | marko85_uk : formi gets like this, its a hormone imbalance :-P |
| 23:23.22 | dankolb | marko85_uk: Haven't you ever shut it down from the command line? |
| 23:23.24 | marko85_uk | once i type halt in the box it just ends with halt and it doesnt switch off |
| 23:23.34 | dankolb | Ah. |
| 23:23.47 | marko85_uk | leeds but someone said something else that that will not turn the power of but just halt the system |
| 23:24.11 | marko85_uk | never |
| 23:24.15 | Leeds | marko85_uk: if you haven't setup your system to do a power-down on halt, then nothing is going to make it turn off automatically |
| 23:24.36 | marko85_uk | i typed halt but it just halts the system |
| 23:24.50 | marko85_uk | so i guess that command wont work |
| 23:25.03 | Leeds | halt -p |
| 23:25.12 | marko85_uk | now we understand each other Leeds |
| 23:25.18 | formi | marko85_uk: try "shutdown $USER" |
| 23:25.26 | marko85_uk | and how do i do that |
| 23:25.26 | marko85_uk | i guess answer is rute |
| 23:25.51 | dankolb | :) |
| 23:25.59 | resuDaed | takes over a minute to get past the bios though |
| 23:26.05 | marko85_uk | so if i type halt -p that will turn the power of staright away |
| 23:26.09 | dankolb | Try it |
| 23:26.24 | marko85_uk | but how do i combine that command to turn it off in 3 hours? |
| 23:26.26 | resuDaed | then again ... it is no problem, I don't plan on turning it off to often |
| 23:26.49 | resuDaed | this things has a 4.3Gb System Disk (SCSI) and 40GB of IDE |
| 23:26.57 | dankolb | Not bad |
| 23:27.05 | dankolb | FreeBSD is nice |
| 23:27.07 | Leeds | marko85_uk: run "man at" |
| 23:27.30 | formi | Leeds: at where? |
| 23:27.36 | dankolb | formi: What for? |
| 23:27.39 | resuDaed | marko85_uk : man shutdown |
| 23:27.40 | marko85_uk | lol |
| 23:27.40 | marko85_uk | guys i guess ill download the mozilla tomorrow |
| 23:27.40 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 23:27.54 | Leeds | formi: what? |
| 23:28.18 | resuDaed | (sleep (whatever 3*60*60 is) ; haltp -p ) & |
| 23:28.27 | resuDaed | ibot 3*60*60 |
| 23:28.32 | | 10800 |
| 23:28.43 | resuDaed | so ... |
| 23:28.56 | resuDaed | (sleep 10800 ; halt -p ) & |
| 23:29.10 | resuDaed | do the job ... though a cop-out way to do it |
| 23:29.10 | marko85_uk | i get it resudaed |
| 23:29.12 | formi | dankolb: so you can stop accusing by laptop of being old |
| 23:29.16 | dankolb | Ah |
| 23:29.17 | Leeds | resuDaed: that's messy - at is nicer |
| 23:29.24 | pdr | you can do arithmatic in the shell using $[ 3*60 ] notation |
| 23:29.34 | dankolb | resuDaed: (sleep $[ 3*60*60 ] ; halt -p ) & |
| 23:29.34 | formi | Leeds: what no, who? |
| 23:29.38 | marko85_uk | if i type at 3.00 halt -p |
| 23:29.38 | marko85_uk | that should work |
| 23:29.38 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 23:29.44 | pdr | or, more portably $(( 3*60 )) iirc |
| 23:29.54 | dankolb | Well, yes. |
| 23:30.02 | resuDaed | well, whatever ... it works |
| 23:30.06 | pdr | :) |
| 23:30.10 | Leeds | mmm... bourne shell :-) |
| 23:30.19 | dankolb | urgh... C shell :-( |
| 23:30.25 | resuDaed | bourne again shell |
| 23:30.38 | marko85_uk | can someone tell me what to type and i will type it in |
| 23:30.38 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 23:30.38 | marko85_uk | pliz |
| 23:30.39 | Leeds | nope, just bourne |
| 23:30.47 | dankolb | We've told you. Many times. |
| 23:30.50 | resuDaed | although bash is a big fscker |
| 23:30.57 | resuDaed | marko85_uk : any of the above |
| 23:31.00 | Leeds | bash is huge |
| 23:31.15 | resuDaed | we just all have our own ways of doing thigs ... they all work |
| 23:31.18 | marko85_uk | speak to you soon guys |
| 23:31.25 | resuDaed | laters |
| 23:31.27 | Leeds | time for bed... so I'll upgrade the kernel on my iPAQ instead |
| 23:31.32 | Leeds | night HuhnZzZ |
| 23:31.34 | HuhnZzZ | nn * :) |
| 23:31.39 | marko85_uk | thanks for the help |
| 23:31.39 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 23:31.40 | dankolb | 'night HuhnZzZ |
| 23:32.25 | marko85_uk | would this command do |
| 23:32.35 | pdr | marko: please type "man shutdown" |
| 23:33.08 | marko85_uk | sleep $[ 3*60*60] ; halt p ) & |
| 23:33.16 | resuDaed | yes |
| 23:33.34 | resuDaed | but do yupe man shutdown, will do you good to read |
| 23:33.35 | dankolb | No. |
| 23:33.40 | resuDaed | no |
| 23:33.41 | resuDaed | -p |
| 23:33.48 | dankolb | And a starting bracket |
| 23:33.52 | resuDaed | and that |
| 23:34.06 | marko85_uk | i have done that |
| 23:34.09 | resuDaed | and type man shutdown |
| 23:34.39 | marko85_uk | ok |
| 23:34.40 | Leeds | marko85_uk: have you heard of rtfm? |
| 23:34.45 | murble | try sleep 3h |
| 23:34.53 | formi | Leeds: you joking? |
| 23:35.04 | murble | Leeds: don't be hmm. |
| 23:35.09 | murble | he may not have man pages. |
| 23:35.12 | formi | or man gundown, also works |
| 23:35.16 | murble | formi: no this is the new #freebsd. |
| 23:35.28 | formi | you fuckit |
| 23:35.57 | formi | ill have words with you |
| 23:36.13 | marko85_uk | [1] 1786 |
| 23:36.13 | marko85_uk | it gave me this |
| 23:36.13 | marko85_uk | is that was it ment to give me? |
| 23:36.36 | dankolb | Yes |
| 23:36.42 | dankolb | It's running with PID 1786 |
| 23:36.55 | Leeds | marko85_uk: that means it's running in the background, it's job number 1 (the first background thing you've run from that window) and it's process ID 1786 |
| 23:36.56 | murble | it means that it is pid foo and you have shell job control. |
| 23:37.28 | marko85_uk | i dont know what to do |
| 23:37.28 | marko85_uk | so i better go to sleep |
| 23:37.28 | marko85_uk | and speak to you tomorrow |
| 23:37.43 | marko85_uk | leeds do you promise me if i leave my computer |
| 23:37.45 | marko85_uk | it will turn off? |
| 23:37.57 | Leeds | marko85_uk: I promise nothing |
| 23:38.06 | marko85_uk | do you think it would work |
| 23:38.06 | dankolb | Give us your address, and we'll promise it won't be troubling you tomorrow morning |
| 23:38.23 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 23:38.28 | marko85_uk | can you shut it down for me? |
| 23:38.32 | marko85_uk | hehe |
| 23:38.37 | Leeds | with a hammer? sure :-) |
| 23:38.42 | marko85_uk | hehe hell no |
| 23:38.45 | pdr | if you give us root access, yes |
| 23:39.01 | marko85_uk | hehe i aint givin you lot nothing hehe you are criminals |
| 23:39.02 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 23:39.07 | pdr | lol |
| 23:39.09 | Leeds | shutdown --extreme-prejudice now |
| 23:39.11 | resuDaed | marko85_uk : post your root pwd, and stay online, we'll make sure it turns off for you |
| 23:39.18 | marko85_uk | guys speak to you tomoorw |
| 23:39.23 | dankolb | 'night |
| 23:39.27 | resuDaed | night |
| 23:39.31 | marko85_uk | resuDaed guess what |
| 23:39.32 | marko85_uk | ill do that |
| 23:39.40 | marko85_uk | i will just restart my computer |
| 23:39.54 | marko85_uk | start the download and give you my ip address and my root password |
| 23:39.55 | marko85_uk | is that ok? |
| 23:40.09 | marko85_uk | i mean restart my connection |
| 23:40.39 | Leeds | marko85_uk: you're missing a smiley |
| 23:40.46 | marko85_uk | damn :) |
| 23:40.51 | marko85_uk | is that a deal |
| 23:40.54 | marko85_uk | or shell i not bother? |
| 23:41.02 | marko85_uk | and download mozilla in school |
| 23:41.09 | marko85_uk | i mean download mozilla tomorrow |
| 23:41.13 | pdr | i'm reminded of http://www.ubergeek.tv/switchlinux/ for some reason |
| 23:41.13 | Leeds | marko85_uk: for now, I'd wait... and download it tomorrow |
| 23:41.18 | marko85_uk | me too |
| 23:41.20 | marko85_uk | thanks leeds |
| 23:41.24 | marko85_uk | speak to you all tomorrow |
| 23:41.30 | marko85_uk | i do really apologise about the hassle |
| 23:41.31 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 23:41.37 | marko85_uk | fucking newbie is the word |
| 23:41.37 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 23:41.45 | Leeds | yup, that's the word |
| 23:42.08 | marko85_uk | fuck |
| 23:42.11 | formi | Leeds: i think his finger and the intro key are in love |
| 23:42.15 | marko85_uk | it says shut down already running |
| 23:42.19 | resuDaed | fuck = fsck |
| 23:42.19 | marko85_uk | how do i turn it off |
| 23:42.23 | marko85_uk | so i can halt my system |
| 23:42.23 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 23:42.45 | *** part/#gllug cupis (~paul@modem-3096.baboon.dialup.pol.co.uk) |
| 23:42.59 | Leeds | pdr: thanks for the reminder |
| 23:43.10 | dankolb | shutdown -c |
| 23:43.27 | marko85_uk | thank you |
| 23:44.46 | pdr | Leeds: np |
| 23:45.22 | Leeds | ibot slashdot |
| 23:46.31 | Leeds | so RMS is an old smelly hippy :-) |
| 23:47.29 | dankolb | :) |
| 23:49.08 | dankolb | :) |
| 23:49.43 | resuDaed | I love it, 233MHx with 512KB Cache |
| 23:50.02 | pdr | pdr$ echo "WAKE UP!" | at 8am |
| 23:50.26 | pdr | night guys |
| 23:50.27 | resuDaed | um, I don't have a windows button on my new box :-( |
| 23:50.35 | dankolb | night pdr |
| 23:51.06 | resuDaed | press N to boot from netowrk, don't you love 3com cards :-) |
| 23:51.07 | formi | night p-e-dr-o |
| 23:51.34 | Leeds | night pdr |
| 23:51.56 | formi | pdr: vaia vostede con deus |
| 23:59.17 | resuDaed | quickie, how difficult is it to set up a net boot over tcp/dhcp? |
| 23:59.49 | Leeds | resuDaed: depends on how much of a net boot... nfs root shouldn't be too hard, but if you want to get the kernel over the net as well, it's probably harder |