| 00:10.08 | dankolb | hi resuDaed |
| 00:13.45 | resuDaed | hi dankolb |
| 00:14.22 | dankolb | how goes it? |
| 00:15.16 | resuDaed | not too bad, I'm playing with eBay 'sniping' software |
| 00:15.22 | dankolb | :) |
| 00:15.37 | dankolb | Isn't that a big legally grey? |
| 00:15.45 | resuDaed | (ie place a bid a few seconds before the end of the auction automagically) |
| 00:15.52 | dankolb | Bad resuDaed |
| 00:16.15 | resuDaed | technically it is a little imorral, but I have lost out on so many bids by 5-10 seconds that I feel I deserve a fighting chance |
| 00:16.43 | resuDaed | so I am going to set it to place max bid say 7 seconds before auction closes |
| 00:16.56 | resuDaed | I want to actually win something for once |
| 00:16.58 | dankolb | Giving someone else plenty of time.. |
| 00:17.35 | dankolb | www.apple.com/ipod/burton/ |
| 00:18.17 | resuDaed | if I make it any shorter, then I may not be able to place the bid in time (due to www lag etc) |
| 00:19.08 | resuDaed | pretty damn cool |
| 00:19.50 | highbury | is it Windows or Linux software |
| 00:19.58 | dankolb | Unfortunately, $500 is a bit much to pay for a jacket |
| 00:20.20 | resuDaed | very true |
| 00:20.51 | resuDaed | how do I 'install' a .pm perl moduly type addon thingie |
| 00:21.42 | dankolb | Stick it somewhere in /usr/lib/perl? </unhelpful> |
| 00:21.55 | resuDaed | it has what appears to be a man page at the end, but the rest is perl syntax |
| 00:23.18 | resuDaed | I have given up with the idea of 'net booting' my compaq, so am going to try booting knoppix |
| 00:23.34 | resuDaed | then chroot-ing onto the local disk |
| 00:23.58 | dankolb | why can't you netboot your compaq? |
| 00:24.16 | resuDaed | I don't a) have time, b) have knowledge |
| 00:24.31 | dankolb | Ah. |
| 00:24.47 | resuDaed | well, the time thingie is just due to pure impatiance |
| 00:24.51 | dankolb | Knowledge is aquired by time |
| 00:25.30 | resuDaed | I CBA to compile a kernel purley for an installation |
| 00:25.38 | dankolb | :) |
| 00:25.38 | eye69 | resuDaed: You can load a module from any directory by using 'require' in Perl. |
| 00:26.17 | resuDaed | eye69 : as in hack the orrigional script? |
| 00:26.33 | eye69 | Yeah. That way you wont have to install the module in any special way. |
| 00:26.49 | Leeds | resuDaed: silly question - what are you bidding on> |
| 00:27.02 | resuDaed | Leeds : why? |
| 00:27.08 | resuDaed | atm, some hdds |
| 00:27.20 | eye69 | Like 'require "/path/to/file.pm";' |
| 00:27.21 | Leeds | why what? |
| 00:27.22 | resuDaed | if it works, I will go for a laptop, and eventually a sparc |
| 00:27.41 | resuDaed | eye69 : except I cannot find the orrigional script |
| 00:27.49 | eye69 | Oki |
| 00:28.16 | resuDaed | an 'update(ing)db atm |
| 00:29.15 | resuDaed | (it takes a very long time) |
| 00:29.17 | dankolb | We got hold of another Ultra5 at work. Slightly dodgy, though. Sometimes throws up CPU0 exception errors in the middle of booting, and resets itself |
| 00:30.36 | Leeds | we've got a V880 on the way... |
| 00:30.53 | dankolb | V880? |
| 00:31.16 | resuDaed | ok, for some reason, this bastard of a compaq isn't booting now |
| 00:31.45 | Leeds | http://www.sun.com/servers/entry/880/index.html |
| 00:31.47 | resuDaed | I can't access the bios because that requires a proggy on the hdd (orrigional hdds are long gone now) |
| 00:33.05 | resuDaed | I want 64GB of main memory |
| 00:33.23 | dankolb | heh |
| 00:33.33 | dankolb | Leeds: Can you get me one? :) |
| 00:33.40 | Leeds | I think we've got 4 procs and probably 8GB RAM or so |
| 00:33.49 | Leeds | dankolb: sure, at a 0% discount! |
| 00:34.00 | dankolb | BAH |
| 00:34.27 | Leeds | actually, that's not quite true... there *is* an employee discount :-) |
| 00:34.28 | resuDaed | I want 8GM RAM |
| 00:35.12 | Leeds | resuDaed: not that a PC can handle that, but... it'd cost about 700 quid at the moment... |
| 00:35.43 | resuDaed | Leeds : did I say I wanted a regular PC to go with it :-) |
| 00:35.55 | resuDaed | so how much for a V880? |
| 00:36.06 | Leeds | I don't know how much they cost... |
| 00:37.18 | Leeds | list price, for a 4 proc 8Gb machine is... |
| 00:37.20 | Leeds | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.28 | dankolb | eek |
| 00:37.32 | resuDaed | maybe in a few years then |
| 00:37.48 | resuDaed | would it be any good for quake? |
| 00:37.56 | Leeds | oh, with 486Gb of disk... |
| 00:38.08 | dankolb | *drool* |
| 00:38.12 | resuDaed | bah, I want 1TB upwards |
| 00:38.26 | Leeds | we can do 1TB easy... |
| 00:38.41 | resuDaed | Leeds : you get commision on sales? |
| 00:38.43 | Leeds | we've got a couple of terabytes in our lab already... |
| 00:39.06 | Leeds | resuDaed: not that I know of... but if you're looking to buy one, I'll find out :-) |
| 00:39.09 | resuDaed | does that come with a 3 year warranty? |
| 00:39.14 | resuDaed | :-P |
| 00:39.35 | resuDaed | Leeds : see how well business goes over the next few months |
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| 00:39.50 | highbury | you should be able to put together 1TB for around £1000 nowadays |
| 00:40.09 | highbury | scary eh? |
| 00:40.39 | dankolb | 100GB for £100? |
| 00:40.48 | dankolb | Not quite yet, I don't think |
| 00:40.54 | resuDaed | dankolb 100GB for £80 or less |
| 00:40.58 | dankolb | Really? |
| 00:41.02 | Leeds | wow - that's a hell of an employee discount! :-) |
| 00:41.04 | resuDaed | (trade) |
| 00:41.15 | highbury | my 120Gb disk is now £100 |
| 00:41.22 | eye69 | I paid £130 for 120GB |
| 00:41.35 | dankolb | Hm. Okay. |
| 00:41.38 | highbury | including 8Mb cache |
| 00:41.48 | resuDaed | I sold one at £110, I bought at £87 |
| 00:41.56 | eye69 | highbury: Caviar? |
| 00:42.06 | highbury | but its probably best to wait for Serial ATA |
| 00:42.57 | highbury | Western Digital WD1200JB |
| 00:43.34 | highbury | I just heard that Serial SCSI is coming soon, and will be compatible with Serial ATA |
| 00:43.38 | eye69 | I'm only going to have IDE (in any form) on my servers anyway. |
| 00:43.51 | resuDaed | :( I don't have enough floppy disks for to run Compaqs Prosignia Server Config Prog |
| 00:45.26 | dankolb | 'night all |
| 00:45.32 | resuDaed | night |
| 00:45.37 | highbury | night Dan |
| 00:45.44 | resuDaed | can anyone think of anywhere open selling floppy disks at this time of night? |
| 00:45.58 | dankolb | 24-hour floppy disk store |
| 00:46.06 | resuDaed | ah, didn't think of that :-) |
| 00:46.09 | dankolb | For all your floppy emergencies. |
| 00:46.11 | eye69 | A well stocked gas station. :) |
| 00:46.17 | resuDaed | one of the few times I wish pc-world was open |
| 00:46.56 | resuDaed | anyone live in north north greater london? |
| 00:47.02 | Leeds | resuDaed: 24-hour tescos? mine stocks floppies, |
| 00:47.06 | eye69 | Not me. |
| 00:47.08 | Leeds | resuDaed: where are you? |
| 00:47.18 | resuDaed | Leeds : tescos is 1 1/2 mile away |
| 00:47.21 | resuDaed | Leeds : enfield |
| 00:47.34 | Leeds | ah - you don't drive? |
| 00:47.49 | dankolb | 'night |
| 00:47.52 | resuDaed | nope, cannot afford car - saving up for v880 |
| 00:47.56 | Leeds | :-) |
| 00:48.57 | highbury | Colney Hatch Tesco is slightly nearer (my local one) |
| 00:49.28 | resuDaed | highbury : I came past there on my way home, wish I'd known |
| 00:49.31 | Leeds | brent cross is mine |
| 00:49.38 | resuDaed | I came past there too |
| 00:49.48 | resuDaed | (I travel a long way home) |
| 00:50.22 | highbury | Leeds: which is the bigger Tesco, the one by Ikea or the one opposite Brent Cross? |
| 00:51.05 | resuDaed | I come from staples corner on the 232 to palmers green, then121 from there to enfield ... pass 4 tescos that I've noticed, 2 at least I know are 24 hour |
| 00:51.06 | Leeds | highbury: I don't know - I've not been into the Brent Park one... the Watford one is enormous - you could buy a PC there now! |
| 00:53.37 | Fossils | anyone know how i can determine what device my dvd rom is using? |
| 00:53.56 | Fossils | i was pretty sure it was hdd but it still doesnt read the dvd |
| 00:53.59 | highbury | where's the best place to buy a box of paper nearby? Tesco used to sell a box of IBM paper 80gms for £9.99 but haven't seen any for a while |
| 00:54.17 | highbury | Fossils: /dev/sr0 |
| 00:54.43 | Leeds | highbury: staples? |
| 00:54.57 | Fossils | no that doesnt work either |
| 00:55.06 | highbury | I always thought Staples was quite expensive |
| 00:55.10 | Leeds | Fossils: have a look at your boot log... is it an IDE device? |
| 00:55.20 | highbury | Fossils: what does your boot up say? |
| 00:55.30 | Fossils | ide |
| 00:55.37 | resuDaed | Fossils : dmesg | grep hdd |
| 00:55.43 | Leeds | highbury: I bought a box of 5 reams years ago and I've never got anywhere near using the first ream |
| 00:55.45 | Fossils | its ide with a kernel parameter hdd=ide-scsi |
| 00:55.59 | resuDaed | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:56.04 | Fossils | Kernel command line: ro root=/dev/hda11 hdd=ide-scsi |
| 00:56.04 | Fossils | ide_setup: hdd=ide-scsi |
| 00:56.04 | Fossils | hdd: LITE-ON LTR-40125S, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive |
| 00:56.30 | highbury | /dev/hdd then |
| 00:56.51 | Fossils | hdd dint work |
| 00:56.54 | Fossils | but i think |
| 00:56.55 | Leeds | if hdd is ide-scsi, it should be /dev/scd0 or /dev/sg0 |
| 00:56.58 | Fossils | [dark@toxicity movies]$ input_dvd.c:device_change_cb:dvd_device=/dev/scd0 |
| 00:56.58 | Fossils | libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 1-beta8 from http://xine.sf.net |
| 00:56.58 | Fossils | libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable. |
| 00:57.01 | Fossils | yeah Leeds |
| 00:57.16 | Leeds | mplayer is better :-) |
| 00:57.22 | resuDaed | mplayer rocks |
| 00:57.28 | Fossils | that stupid i cant watcha dvd with xine |
| 00:57.53 | resuDaed | WhyTF is my compaq not booting !!! |
| 00:58.04 | Leeds | hmm... synchronicity... just got spam from tesco.com :-) |
| 00:58.46 | Fossils | how can ic ahnge my default device on mplayer? |
| 00:58.53 | Fossils | im using command line |
| 00:59.08 | resuDaed | s/dieways/sideways |
| 00:59.31 | murb | hell |
| 00:59.41 | resuDaed | murb ??? |
| 01:00.09 | resuDaed | Fossils : whats wrong with an absolute path? |
| 01:00.12 | Leeds | satan |
| 01:00.13 | murb | o |
| 01:00.22 | Fossils | it used /dev/dvd as default |
| 01:00.25 | Fossils | uses |
| 01:00.29 | murb | resuDaed: just my normal typing after 2 or 3 pints... |
| 01:00.41 | murb | Fossils: make sure that points to the correct device. |
| 01:00.43 | Leeds | Fossils: mplayer -dvd-device /dev/scd0 -dvd 1 |
| 01:00.51 | Fossils | thmnk you |
| 01:01.12 | resuDaed | Fossils : /dev/dvd is probably a symlink anyway, ls -l /dev/dvd |
| 01:01.33 | Fossils | it doesnt exist |
| 01:01.44 | resuDaed | ah, then create it |
| 01:01.44 | Fossils | Playing DVD title 1 |
| 01:01.45 | Fossils | libdvdread: Could not open device with libdvdcss. |
| 01:01.45 | Fossils | libdvdread: Can't open /dev/scd0 for reading |
| 01:01.45 | Fossils | Couldn't open DVD device: /dev/scd0 |
| 01:02.03 | Leeds | Fossils: is there a particular reason youi |
| 01:02.03 | resuDaed | ln -s /dev/dvd /dev/scd0 |
| 01:02.07 | Leeds | ugh! |
| 01:02.24 | eye69 | resuDaed: Other way around |
| 01:02.25 | Leeds | Fossils: is there a particular reason you're using ide-scsi for a DVD-ROM, anyway? |
| 01:02.27 | Fossils | reason i? |
| 01:02.58 | Fossils | thats the dvd rom i have if i dont pass the hdd flag the cd rom is not usuable |
| 01:03.06 | resuDaed | eye69 : I thought so ... I remember it is always backwards, I just can't always remember what the right way around looks like |
| 01:04.21 | resuDaed | would the fact that I have a net-boot capable card affect the rest of my boot up? ie why it is not attempting to boot from IDE or SCSI? |
| 01:04.32 | Leeds | Fossils: are you saying it doesn't work if you just use IDE? |
| 01:04.41 | murb | Nukular weapons! |
| 01:04.48 | Fossils | yes |
| 01:04.50 | resuDaed | murb : can be fun |
| 01:05.07 | Fossils | it does it by default when i installed it...it added the hdd part by itself |
| 01:05.21 | Fossils | thats y slackware deosnt install it cant read my disk |
| 01:05.31 | resuDaed | Fossils : that is probably to do with a misplacaed link then ... ide-scsi is only really useful for burning |
| 01:05.57 | Leeds | and I understand the clash is fixed in 2.6 :-) |
| 01:06.00 | Fossils | ahh |
| 01:06.02 | Fossils | i see |
| 01:06.06 | resuDaed | (its probably useful for tricking other software also, I've just never tried |
| 01:08.39 | resuDaed | I am going to try to get up a decent hour, but I doubt I'll make it |
| 01:08.42 | resuDaed | night all |
| 01:09.27 | Leeds | night resuDaed |
| 02:25.03 | highbury | I'm off too, c'ya |
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| 07:43.05 | Tarragon | Moin |
| 07:53.16 | murb | urgle. |
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| 09:38.58 | dank_work | Morning |
| 09:40.37 | Tarragon | Moin |
| 09:52.11 | dank_work | How goes? |
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| 10:01.39 | cup | morning |
| 10:02.15 | cup | when talking about networks, what is a NAT setup? |
| 10:03.00 | dank_work | Network Address Translation |
| 10:03.18 | Tarragon | Network Address Translation - Behind a firewall |
| 10:03.38 | dank_work | Whereby a network has a non-routable private IP address space, which a router/firewall translates to make it look like all traffic is coming out of that particular machine |
| 10:04.02 | dank_work | Tarragon: Having a firewall does not mean you have NAT, though |
| 10:04.24 | cup | hmm, cheers |
| 10:05.49 | Tarragon | dank_work: No it doen't, but the commonest place to find one is going to be on masquerading networks |
| 10:06.20 | Tarragon | Hold on - http://www.netfilter.org/unreliable-guides/NAT-HOWTO/ |
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| 10:08.20 | nasrat | morning all |
| 10:12.11 | dank_work | hi |
| 10:14.31 | eye69 | How standards compliant is forwarding mail as MIME attachments? Thinking of turning it on in mutt. |
| 10:17.13 | eye69 | Nevermind. |
| 10:34.31 | Huhn | moin |
| 10:35.45 | dank_work | hihi |
| 10:36.21 | Huhn | hi dank_work |
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| 10:45.38 | Davilion | hi |
| 10:45.40 | dank_work | Hi |
| 10:45.43 | Huhn | hi Davilion |
| 10:46.19 | Davilion | How are you doing Huhn, Dan? |
| 10:47.51 | Huhn | Davilion: thanks, fine, a bit tired, yourself? |
| 10:48.40 | SpudULike | Trying to figure out the virtues of running a DNS server locally for a small network. Info about the local server is taken via DHCP from my ISP. How would you normally provide local clients with DNS info? At the moment I am entering this manually, but it just don't seem right. Is this a good reason to run a local DNS just for my network? Any other plusses or minuses to take into account? |
| 10:49.22 | dank_work | You can provide DNS server addresses through DHCP |
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| 10:50.41 | jason_ukfsn | morning all |
| 10:50.47 | dank_work | morning |
| 10:51.09 | dank_work | Mmmm.... |
| 10:51.12 | dank_work | Nice coffee :) |
| 10:51.21 | dank_work | None of this instant shit any more |
| 10:51.25 | murb | spudulike: well it is one more thing to break... |
| 10:51.29 | SpudULike | The local clients are masquerading behind my local server. I can get my clients to ask for the DNS info from my ISPs DHCP server? |
| 10:51.39 | dank_work | No |
| 10:51.45 | SpudULike | Oh... |
| 10:51.51 | murb | but it does mean you don't have to keep things like hosts mirroreed on all machines, although that is rather trivial with rdist etc. |
| 10:51.52 | dank_work | You can run your own DHCP server |
| 10:52.03 | SpudULike | Instant coffee is only there to give you enough strength to go make real coffee! |
| 10:52.05 | murb | spudulike: you're ona cabelmodem? |
| 10:52.34 | SpudULike | murb: Yes, but not a fixed IP. |
| 10:52.55 | dank_work | A cabalmodem? |
| 10:53.16 | dank_work | The DNS servers should be the same all the time, though |
| 10:53.35 | SpudULike | dank_work: The local clients have fixed IPs, so I didn;t think local DHCP was needed. |
| 10:54.21 | SpudULike | dank_work: I must admit I've not seen them change, but entering the details by hand just seems wrong, even though it is only two machines. |
| 10:54.23 | dank_work | So you need to give them statis DNS settings |
| 10:54.33 | dank_work | If it's wrong, that's what DHCP is for |
| 10:55.20 | SpudULike | So DHCP isn't just for assigning IP addresses, you would use it to give out DNS info also? |
| 10:56.39 | dank_work | Yup |
| 10:56.47 | dank_work | And default routes |
| 10:56.58 | nasrat | and wins server should you want |
| 10:58.08 | dank_work | And lots of other things |
| 10:58.10 | nasrat | of course you could always use zeroconf and mdns for local link services |
| 10:58.29 | dank_work | Does the ISC DHCP server support WINS settings? Or is that some non-standard extension? |
| 10:58.56 | nasrat | nope it's in isc netbios-name-servers iirc |
| 10:59.03 | SpudULike | Ah, so, quick recap on my lack of knowledge so far. A DNS server just deals with 'swapping' numbers for words. DHCP provides info about IP addresses and where it can find stuff, like a DNS server? |
| 10:59.35 | nasrat | SpudULike: nope DNS can have lots more types of records - KEY, TXT, SRV |
| 11:00.18 | dank_work | MX |
| 11:01.04 | SpudULike | Hmm, what sort of services need to know about "KEY, TXT, SRV"? |
| 11:02.33 | nasrat | DNSSEC for one, I believe that mDNS uses SRV for service discovery. They aren't necessarily as heavily used as A CNAME and MX. Some ppl use TXT for descriptive stuff in internal dns setups. |
| 11:02.45 | murb | dnssec is a joke |
| 11:03.01 | nasrat | Also frees/wan had a dns based key exchange IIRC |
| 11:03.15 | murb | as is mobile ip, ipsec with opptunistic encryption etc. |
| 11:03.31 | dank_work | why? |
| 11:03.35 | murb | nasrat: using txt records. |
| 11:03.38 | nasrat | yup esp. with the usagi stuff |
| 11:03.52 | dank_work | usagi? |
| 11:03.53 | murb | dank: because an alternative implementation based on kame has been rolled into 2.5 |
| 11:04.03 | murb | dank: linux equiv of wide constortum stuff. |
| 11:04.09 | dank_work | Ah ride |
| 11:04.22 | dank_work | *right |
| 11:04.32 | murb | and of course it isn't actually usagi stuff that is going into the kernel either. |
| 11:05.09 | nasrat | murb: yeah well there seem to be at least two different japenese groups working on it from what I've seen on lkml |
| 11:06.20 | Tarragon | On a small network with a cable access do you really need to run your own DNS? Is not IP-forwarding sufficient and to use the ISP's DNS numbers? |
| 11:06.39 | nasrat | dank_work: http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.ipsec.html |
| 11:07.59 | murb | Tarragon: internal DNS can be quite nice especally if you build up a WAVPN |
| 11:08.42 | SpudULike | I'll ask, WAVPN? |
| 11:08.52 | jason_ukfsn | Tarragon if you are not doing anything internally other than using the net then you are right you need only using the ISPs DNS servers. If you are doing any internal stuff as well run your own |
| 11:09.07 | jason_ukfsn | Wide Area VPN |
| 11:09.09 | murb | jason: or rdist hosts etc. |
| 11:09.27 | SpudULike | Ah. |
| 11:09.28 | Tarragon | Internal stuff. Such as? |
| 11:09.30 | jason_ukfsn | Urgh murble, that's a horrible suggestion in my view. |
| 11:09.47 | murb | jason: but if you have a large network dns is nice. |
| 11:10.25 | jason_ukfsn | Tarragon such as running file/print servers, MP3 juke boxes, database boxes, whatever you like and want to refer to by service name rather than IP. You can do as murble suggests and manually maintain hosts files which does work well enough tfor small setups |
| 11:10.46 | jason_ukfsn | essential murb, not nice. |
| 11:34.34 | dank_work | jason_ukfsn: for in in `seq 1 254` ; do scp /etc/hosts root@192.168.0.$i:/etc/hosts ; done |
| 11:34.52 | dank_work | s/for in in/for i in/ |
| 11:39.08 | nasrat | dank_work: or you can write your own nss service :) |
| 11:39.16 | dank_work | :) |
| 11:40.29 | murb | dank: rdist does that properly. |
| 11:40.46 | dank_work | But why do things properly, if you can do it in shell script? ;-) |
| 11:41.42 | pdr | morning |
| 11:42.00 | pdr | murb: you managed to get home? |
| 11:44.13 | murb | pdr: of course, did you doubt my homing skills when drunk? |
| 12:40.36 | dank_work | re |
| 12:42.34 | Tarragon | wb |
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| 13:07.49 | Davilion | ok i've got a silly problem i've managed to screw up my php in a hasty upgrade. |
| 13:07.50 | nesim | i am seriously thinking about upgrading to 2.4.20 but the latest sec patch has not been officially uploaded to the kernels ftp site or its mirrors. shall i wait for 2.4.21? |
| 13:08.27 | Davilion | for some reason apache is now not parsing .php documents and instead tells the browser its a MIME document with type httpd-php4 |
| 13:08.33 | nesim | i'm running 2.4.19 at the moment |
| 13:09.40 | dank_work | Do you need to fiddle with httpd.conf? |
| 13:09.47 | Davilion | dank_work: i think so |
| 13:09.52 | dank_work | Do that then |
| 13:10.02 | dank_work | nesim: If you want to wait.. |
| 13:10.15 | Davilion | i have LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so and AddType application/x-httpd-php4 .php |
| 13:11.28 | dank_work | Have you done an AddModule? |
| 13:11.38 | dank_work | AddModule mod_php4.c |
| 13:12.09 | Davilion | ahh no. |
| 13:12.27 | dank_work | Do that then |
| 13:13.15 | Davilion | module mod_php4.c is already added, skipping |
| 13:13.25 | dank_work | Hm |
| 13:13.30 | nesim | dank_work: what are my options apart from waiting that is? |
| 13:13.43 | dank_work | Apply the patches manually |
| 13:15.28 | nesim | what do you actually mean by update by hand?. i am fairly new to this compilation business and have no experience of patching. i run 2.4.19 right now |
| 13:16.06 | nesim | i mean i am neither a programmer nor a guru and my kernel compilation experience is rather limited, in fact i have very little experience.i run linux on my desktop PC |
| 13:16.20 | Tarragon | loyalist songs ulster |
| 13:16.45 | Tarragon | Sorry wrong channel |
| 13:17.18 | dank_work | In which case, wait for the update |
| 13:17.29 | dank_work | What do you need the updated security patches for anyway? |
| 13:18.11 | Huhn | who * |
| 13:18.15 | Huhn | gna |
| 13:18.20 | dank_work | :) |
| 13:18.38 | dank_work | Look on your keyboard |
| 13:18.39 | SpudULike | #I've claimed that excuse, exclusively! |
| 13:18.40 | nesim | are we not supposed to keep up to date with all the relevant security patches? the kernel is a very relavnt package, it it not? |
| 13:18.55 | dank_work | Is there some exploit in the kernel? |
| 13:19.10 | Huhn | SpudULike: ok, how about: I'm blonde? |
| 13:19.42 | nasrat | umm what do ou mean security patches? are you talking about the ptrace stuff or stuff like cryptoapi and openwall patches |
| 13:19.43 | nesim | http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2003-03-18-001-26-SC-KN-SW |
| 13:19.54 | dank_work | The kernel should only really be upgraded if it's absolutely necessary |
| 13:20.09 | nasrat | nesim: what distro do you use? |
| 13:20.48 | nesim | Fateh Ali Khan relative? |
| 13:21.15 | nasrat | wtf? |
| 13:21.32 | *** part/#gllug nesim (~nesim@217.154.56.112) |
| 13:22.58 | dank_work | wtf was that about? |
| 13:23.38 | nasrat | fsck knows |
| 13:24.19 | nasrat | ibot google for nasrat |
| 13:24.37 | nasrat | hmm maybe some music person |
| 13:24.50 | Davilion | cool. |
| 13:24.51 | dank_work | hmm |
| 13:24.56 | dank_work | ibot google for dankolb |
| 13:25.12 | dank_work | Ermm. pkl.net ?? |
| 13:25.15 | Davilion | ibot google for davilion |
| 13:25.34 | Davilion | :(( i need to get more google. |
| 13:25.39 | nasrat | ibot google for paul nasrat |
| 13:26.04 | dank_work | Oooh. I have an account on pkl.net :) |
| 13:26.12 | dank_work | And it's running FreeBSD 4.8-RC |
| 13:26.28 | dank_work | But there's absolutely nothing on pkl.net/~dankolb. I don't know why it's in Google |
| 13:27.27 | dank_work | It's running IPv6, which is nice |
| 13:28.22 | *** join/#gllug dankolb (dankolb@spoon.pkl.net) |
| 13:28.24 | dankolb | Boo |
| 13:29.36 | dank_work | ibot google for me |
| 13:29.54 | Huhn | ibot: lart channel flooders |
| 13:30.03 | Huhn | :) |
| 13:31.57 | dank_work | :-) |
| 13:33.38 | Tarragon | :--) |
| 13:34.07 | Huhn | :---) ? |
| 13:34.24 | murb | you're getting lesstruthfull? |
| 13:34.29 | dank_work | :4-) |
| 13:35.02 | Huhn | =8> -- chicken smiley ;) |
| 13:35.10 | dank_work | :) |
| 13:36.30 | Clyphox_work | hi |
| 13:36.35 | dank_work | Late to work. |
| 13:36.35 | murb | <>=====<> <>====<> chicken drumsticks. |
| 13:36.37 | dank_work | Tuh. |
| 13:36.48 | dank_work | hi Clyphox_work |
| 13:36.50 | murb | pub?? |
| 13:36.58 | Clyphox_work | Hey dank_work |
| 13:36.59 | dank_work | pub? When? Where? |
| 13:37.05 | murb | dank: the falcon |
| 13:37.09 | Clyphox_work | Who's paying? |
| 13:37.09 | dank_work | In Wycombe? |
| 13:37.45 | murb | Clyphox: probably not formi |
| 13:37.56 | dank_work | :) |
| 13:38.49 | murb | jason: but it would have been ok if it had featured ukfsn/ukpost? :) |
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| 13:39.39 | dank_work | Speak of the devil.. |
| 13:39.59 | jason_ukfsn | no murb - I'd have karted them with explosives if it had! |
| 13:40.16 | dank_work | murb: Falcon in Wycombe Centre? What time? |
| 13:40.22 | jason_ukfsn | highbury - I've just received SPAM advertising an event seemingly featuring you. |
| 13:40.29 | Tarragon | murb: Less truthful? Impossible to get less truthful no matter how long my nose grows |
| 13:40.37 | jason_ukfsn | s/karted/larted/ |
| 13:41.46 | murb | jason: is that like your special 1u rackmountable bombs? |
| 13:41.56 | jason_ukfsn | LOL marb Shh! |
| 13:42.10 | highbury | jason_ukfsn: I am appearing at an event April 2, but I wasn't aware they were spamming people :-( |
| 13:42.16 | murb | with intergrated timing and remote mangment device, aka a pc mobo? |
| 13:42.16 | jason_ukfsn | s/marb/murb/ |
| 13:42.27 | Clyphox_work | A4266 can make tennis ball bombs if called upon |
| 13:42.31 | murb | oh my plan worked :) |
| 13:42.37 | murb | having a machine called marble that is. |
| 13:42.39 | jason_ukfsn | don't forget the advanced comms module - an ethernet connection ;) |
| 13:43.27 | murb | have you writen a webmin module for the dummies version? |
| 13:43.37 | highbury | I was going to forward details to the list, it does cost £10, and I don't see any of it :-( |
| 13:43.49 | jason_ukfsn | That looks like it highbury. I received email addressed to an email listed in the Linux Consultants HOWTO. I've certainly never solicited such messages from them or anyone else. |
| 13:44.07 | jason_ukfsn | Why are you appearing at an event that is charging if you are not getting paid? |
| 13:44.38 | jason_ukfsn | no murb, I thought I'd just let it respond to connections on ICMP 6. |
| 13:45.24 | highbury | well they said that they were just covering costs, and since it could help the Free/Open software cause, or at least introduce the discussion to people, I agreed to do it |
| 13:45.42 | murb | have you send the spam to the list? |
| 13:46.08 | highbury | At least I raise my visibility, and may get the chance to hand some business cards around |
| 13:46.44 | highbury | I don't know, I haven't check the list yet. |
| 13:46.49 | jason_ukfsn | highbury I wish you luck however I have to say I would not appear for spammers. |
| 13:47.58 | highbury | I intend to advertise it on the list. However, if anybody objects to what's been sent so far, please send the full email with headers to me, and I'll take it up with the organisers |
| 13:48.21 | jason_ukfsn | which email address should I send it to highbury? |
| 13:48.49 | jason_ukfsn | Had you posted a note about if on the list I would not have had any problem. My problem was that what I received was spam and that is different. |
| 13:49.52 | highbury | cobrin_AT_highbury_DOT_net |
| 13:52.15 | jason_ukfsn | yhm |
| 13:52.23 | murb | s/_AT_/@/ s/_DOT_/./ |
| 13:52.43 | murb | for all spammers out there |
| 13:53.14 | murb | murble-gllugwebacrhive18032003CE@yuri.org.uk i wonder if i'll get any spam. |
| 13:53.34 | murb | yet another good reason not to have web logging, if you ask me which you didn't. |
| 13:54.16 | nasrat | murb: should that not be archive???] |
| 13:54.50 | murb | nasrat: probably. |
| 13:54.56 | Davilion | why not just write something that automagically munges email addresses in a harvester unfriendly fasion? |
| 13:55.39 | jason_ukfsn | any munging that can be human understandable can easily be scripted away by a spammer. :) |
| 13:59.28 | highbury | my email address, and a whole lives worth of postings are up there on the internet, I don't really care |
| 14:00.26 | highbury | I prefer that we do have web logging, so I can come back and taunt you, if you say something stupid. |
| 14:00.55 | Davilion | ibot lart stupid no brained collegues |
| 14:02.53 | highbury | jason_ukfsn: looking at the *SPAM*, Its not as bad as I was thinking. He puts his real email address, he doesn't hide who its being sent too. |
| 14:07.34 | jason_ukfsn | highbury most of the spam I receive can be identified - that is not the point. The point is that it is abusive to send it in the first place. |
| 14:09.45 | highbury | The majority of the spam I receive can't be linked easily back to sender, so I tend to differentiate this email from the stuff I normally see. |
| 14:10.46 | highbury | I guess, I needd to look up difference between spam and junk mail. |
| 14:13.20 | murb | spam is email i didn't ask for that annoys me. |
| 14:13.32 | murb | yes it is subjective. |
| 14:14.40 | highbury | ty murb |
| 14:15.42 | jason_ukfsn | spam is I feel best defined using the two terms UCE (unsolicited Commercial Email |
| 14:16.01 | jason_ukfsn | spam is I feel best defined using the two terms UCE (Unsolicited Commercial Email) and UBE (Unsolicited Bulk Email). The message I received clearly sits in the former. |
| 14:16.48 | jason_ukfsn | note that I do not hold these two terms to be sufficient to completely cover the issue of spam - or indeed all email spam but they are sufficient as a yardstick against email |
| 14:16.57 | highbury | hmmm, I like the terms/differentiation, where are they defined? |
| 14:17.24 | murb | jason: i can get a spam from a polition, that isn't commericial, but is still spam. |
| 14:17.27 | highbury | sounds better than my spam vs junk mail |
| 14:19.56 | eye69 | Ok, final CV at http://upcore.net/cv/ |
| 14:19.58 | murb | s/now/recentlyu/ |
| 14:20.09 | eye69 | Opinions are welcome. |
| 14:20.11 | murb | oh and i'm suddely getting spam to my work address :( |
| 14:20.16 | murb | which i never published :( |
| 14:20.23 | murb | so someone must have given it out :( |
| 14:20.50 | jason_ukfsn | murb do you mean politician? If so I believe that to fall within the commercial id as they are seeking to gain from you. Not all gain is financial. It's not a perfect classification though. |
| 14:21.15 | jason_ukfsn | murb - has your boss been financing the business by selling staff email addresses again? ;) |
| 14:22.56 | jason_ukfsn | whats wrong Clyphox_work? |
| 14:23.33 | Tarragon | eye69: You missed off your first name |
| 14:24.00 | eye69 | Tarragon: Huh? |
| 14:24.10 | Tarragon | Lief? |
| 14:24.37 | murb | i really really hate people phoning up trying to sell me stuff. |
| 14:24.49 | eye69 | Tarragon: My first name is Magnus :) |
| 14:25.01 | Clyphox_work | jason_ukfsn, can't send email from one of my customers mail server because uk2's dns is going weird.. |
| 14:25.11 | Tarragon | Sorry always thought it was Lief. |
| 14:25.20 | Clyphox_work | Love? |
| 14:25.26 | eye69 | It's my middle name, which I never ever use. |
| 14:26.01 | Tarragon | Ah. I will update my spy network then :-) |
| 14:26.08 | jason_ukfsn | murb - put them on hold. |
| 14:27.51 | highbury | interesting backup discussion on slashdot, referring to a statement Linus said in 2001, that dump was fundamentally broken on Linux |
| 14:28.02 | Clyphox_work | murb - try selling them something :-) BOFH style |
| 14:28.51 | murb | Hello, we are a small it company from just outside Watford uknot: is that north of Watford or south of watford? |
| 14:29.10 | jason_ukfsn | LOL murb! |
| 14:32.53 | dank_work | But after work, okay? |
| 14:33.19 | murb | yeah. |
| 14:33.32 | dank_work | Falcon in Wycombe? |
| 14:33.35 | dank_work | Or a different pub? |
| 14:33.41 | murb | do you know where in wycombe rednet is based? |
| 14:34.04 | dank_work | Up on the Cressex Industrial Estate somewhere |
| 14:34.22 | murb | i suspect the falcon if it is the pub i think it is. |
| 14:34.33 | dank_work | The Falcon is the Wetherspoons pub in the centre |
| 14:34.52 | dank_work | Opposite O'Neills, and near to McDonalds. |
| 14:36.39 | dank_work | Is that the one you were thinking of? |
| 14:49.53 | Tarragon | eye69: email away! |
| 14:50.32 | Clyphox | hmm..beer |
| 14:51.21 | dank_work | You didn't want to yesterday.... |
| 14:51.28 | dank_work | So you'd have to come to Wycombe for beer now |
| 14:51.57 | Clyphox | I can't today.. I've just got so much junk to tidy before I dare let anyone see my room |
| 14:52.29 | Clyphox | PLus I have work to do for Thu.. and netBSd to install tonight and some music to learn too.. arg.. need time |
| 14:52.36 | dank_work | :) |
| 14:52.57 | Clyphox | last night was early.. only 2am methinks |
| 14:53.11 | Clyphox | Didn't even play UT |
| 14:53.12 | eye69 | Tarragon: Thank you very much. |
| 14:53.22 | Clyphox | my gForce has died too! |
| 14:56.47 | Clyphox | gtg.. cya |
| 14:56.50 | dank_work | cya |
| 14:56.56 | Clyphox | :( |
| 14:57.06 | dank_work | Hurry back then :) |
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| 15:15.31 | dpash | hi all |
| 15:15.37 | zimm | hey dpash |
| 15:27.11 | SpudULike | Is it near the chair museum? |
| 15:27.27 | dank_work | Half a mile or so |
| 15:28.09 | dank_work | The chair museum is, IIRC, up a hill a bit |
| 15:28.33 | SpudULike | On the road that nicely overlooks the railway cuttings. |
| 15:28.41 | dank_work | yeah |
| 15:28.47 | dank_work | Want to come to pub? |
| 15:29.39 | SpudULike | More importantly, much more importantly..... There is a Wynchwood pub in High Wycomb. Would come if you were going to that. It's in the High Street, near Wollies I think. |
| 15:29.47 | dank_work | Wychwood |
| 15:29.54 | dank_work | It's very near to the Falcon |
| 15:29.58 | dank_work | The Hobgoblin |
| 15:30.18 | SpudULike | Yeah, Hobgoblin on tap in the Hobgoblin, hmmm. |
| 15:35.47 | dank_work | murb: Hobgoblin, possibly? |
| 15:37.24 | nasrat | dank_work: cheers I might pop downstairs for one though :) |
| 15:37.45 | dank_work | Wycombe pubmeet, nasrat... |
| 15:37.50 | *** join/#gllug jenson (~jenson@64.246.28.105) |
| 15:38.00 | jenson | hey all |
| 15:38.17 | nasrat | hmm, dunno maybe |
| 15:38.22 | SpudULike | When is this pub meet? Thursday? |
| 15:38.25 | dank_work | Tonight |
| 15:38.33 | SpudULike | Bah! |
| 15:38.50 | SpudULike | Can't go tonight, no thirst. |
| 15:38.54 | dank_work | Bah. |
| 15:38.59 | jenson | Bah |
| 15:39.37 | SpudULike | ... black sheep, have you any wool? |
| 15:40.03 | murb | dank: we could have another one on thursday? |
| 15:40.07 | SpudULike | Damn, I really am so well understood. |
| 15:40.08 | dank_work | murb: Sounds good to me. |
| 15:40.19 | dank_work | The more beer, the better. :) |
| 15:40.27 | dank_work | More time with friends, too |
| 15:40.45 | dank_work | Get yerself on a plane |
| 15:40.49 | Huhn | ty, dank_work :) |
| 15:41.07 | Huhn | mh, can't afford it, skiing holiday starts on Saturday |
| 15:41.23 | dank_work | It's an excuse for being social with friends |
| 15:41.36 | jenson | social is good |
| 15:41.43 | dank_work | So's beer |
| 15:41.46 | jenson | nah |
| 15:41.59 | murb | s/geeks/beer/ |
| 15:42.00 | SpudULike | Ah, that's the start of a very slippery sl;ope, making excuses for drinking! You've all been warned!!! |
| 15:42.43 | dank_work | Being with friends is a good excuse. I don't tend to drink on my own. |
| 15:42.48 | dank_work | Maybe a beer if I have a curtty |
| 15:42.49 | murb | I should go shopping for sking stuff now, but i'm too lame. |
| 15:42.50 | dank_work | *curry |
| 15:43.14 | dank_work | Have you organised a pissup? |
| 15:43.16 | Huhn | mh, it's only for research |
| 15:43.23 | dank_work | Uhhuh. |
| 15:43.25 | murb | Huhn: so youare very familure now with the workkings of breweries? |
| 15:43.27 | dank_work | Any excuse :-P |
| 15:43.41 | dank_work | jenson: Like you've been doing pretty much since I've known you? |
| 15:43.43 | Huhn | dank_work: I want to learn how that beer brewing thing works ;) |
| 15:43.46 | SpudULike | Maybe we could arrange a proper meeting, Saturday afternoon, post to the list and stuff? |
| 15:44.01 | jenson | saturday, bah, i'll be in ipswich |
| 15:44.03 | jenson | or bed |
| 15:44.05 | jenson | or something |
| 15:44.09 | murb | SpudUlike: that would be no fun |
| 15:44.11 | SpudULike | Has the Hobgoblin got a beer garden, I might have to bring the kids. |
| 15:44.15 | murb | especally as saturday i won't be here. |
| 15:44.17 | dank_work | Yes, it does |
| 15:44.33 | dank_work | murb: Falcon(?) tonight, and Hobgoblin on Thursday? |
| 15:44.38 | murb | dank: 'k |
| 15:44.42 | dank_work | Cool :) |
| 15:44.48 | murb | Huhn: good point i'll post to the list advertising it :) |
| 15:44.48 | SpudULike | Maybe I will just bring the kids on my own on Saturday. |
| 15:44.49 | Huhn | ah, I envy you.. |
| 15:45.09 | murb | what shall i say 1300 in Munich? |
| 15:45.12 | Huhn | murb: beer in Tux is really good |
| 15:45.36 | dank_work | Saturday might not be wonderful for me. Although... |
| 15:45.57 | jenson | dank_work: saturday is a good day to get drunk |
| 15:46.21 | nasrat | s/satur/every / |
| 15:46.25 | Huhn | not if you plan to go skiing on the Sunday morning ;) |
| 15:47.00 | murb | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2859577.stm # where they going to introduce more routes and stuff? |
| 15:47.30 | murb | dank: well you can get a flight to Munic for 44 quid+tax |
| 15:47.43 | dank_work | That's not bad |
| 15:47.45 | murb | then 18 quid for a return to stansted, and you're sorted. |
| 15:47.53 | Huhn | lol, good plan |
| 15:48.00 | murb | (unless national express have put up their prices again?) |
| 15:48.07 | dank_work | Sounds about right. Possibly |
| 15:49.33 | murb | we need a random european wide announce mailing list for pissups near cheap airports. |
| 15:49.56 | Huhn | sounds like a plan ;) |
| 15:50.10 | jenson | stansted is about 40 mins drive from mine |
| 15:50.12 | SpudULike | murb: That's what I did FOSDEM for, £18.99. |
| 15:50.14 | murb | dank: you wouldn't be you'd be tranvelling al the way to tux. |
| 15:50.16 | jenson | cept i dont drive lol |
| 15:50.26 | murb | spudlike: so 99p more than it costs me to get to stansted. |
| 15:50.29 | Clyphox | ..helps hehe |
| 15:51.14 | murb | oh good no ganesh, so i can say oxfnord oxfnord oxfnord! |
| 15:51.22 | dank_work | :) |
| 15:51.32 | dank_work | murb: I'm going to Canada on the 26th |
| 15:51.43 | murb | dank: you need a different nick here to avoid confusion |
| 15:51.55 | SpudULike | It was only the thought of you subsidising that made me go! |
| 15:51.58 | murb | (yes i have broken scrolling) |
| 15:52.07 | dank_work | Who am I being confused with? |
| 15:52.17 | murb | dank_work in another channel. |
| 15:52.19 | dank_work | Ah :) |
| 15:52.22 | dank_work | Well, it's the same me |
| 15:52.39 | murb | but different other people. forinstance it might not be wise to start seeing fnords. |
| 15:52.53 | dank_work | True |
| 15:54.05 | dank_fnord | Now you can't confuse me with myself |
| 15:54.25 | jenson | yeesh how confusing |
| 15:54.52 | dank_fnord | Well, I'm not confused with myself |
| 15:54.58 | cup | If I have a string (in php) with a whole load of php commands in the string, can I execute this string? |
| 15:55.00 | dank_fnord | I'm just doing this for murb |
| 15:55.06 | dank_fnord | cup: Yes |
| 15:55.11 | cup | how? |
| 15:55.15 | dank_fnord | IIRC, it's the exec() function |
| 15:55.42 | dank_fnord | SpudULike: It might be, but you're not coming to the pub tonight |
| 15:57.24 | dpash | dank_fnord: why are you in a fnord? |
| 15:57.43 | dank_fnord | dpash: So as not to confuse murb |
| 15:57.51 | jenson | because murb was confused dpash so dank_fnord went in the fnord lol |
| 15:58.05 | dpash | murb is easily confused |
| 15:58.27 | jenson | lol dank_fnord ty |
| 15:58.32 | murb | dpash: I'm running irc on a high latancy low bandwith link in screen it is easy to be confused. |
| 15:58.49 | murb | especally when you have the same person on multiple unrelated irc channels |
| 15:58.51 | dpash | murb: I know how you feel, but I don't get confused by dank_work |
| 15:59.08 | dpash | murb: how high is high? |
| 15:59.38 | murb | how long does it take for my bits to do a moon bounce? |
| 15:59.49 | dpash | er yeah |
| 16:00.06 | dank_fnord | Moon is about 2ls away |
| 16:00.51 | murb | and dropped on the floor. |
| 16:00.56 | murb | and retransmitted. |
| 16:01.09 | dpash | murb: can we have a ping from terminal to irc client please? |
| 16:01.25 | dank_fnord | murb: But are you going to the moon? Surely you'd be going to a satellite? |
| 16:01.36 | cup | dank_fnord: doesn't exec run like commands on the system, not php specific commands? |
| 16:01.49 | dank_fnord | Err...might do. |
| 16:01.56 | dpash | php bah |
| 16:01.59 | dank_fnord | I don't have my PHP code, or a PHP manual handy |
| 16:02.05 | dank_fnord | I could look it up at home |
| 16:02.13 | dank_fnord | Ahh. |
| 16:02.17 | dpash | what about php.net |
| 16:02.18 | dank_fnord | eval() is your friend, I think |
| 16:03.49 | murb | dank: moon bounce is a more intesrting mode of communication, although meterior scatter might be more fun, for values of fun that requir ehigh speed machine RTTY |
| 16:04.02 | dank_fnord | yeah |
| 16:04.10 | dpash | murb: so what is your latency |
| 16:04.21 | dank_fnord | *murb |
| 16:04.22 | dank_fnord | :-) |
| 16:04.36 | dpash | dank_fnord: I don't think that is the high latency link |
| 16:04.54 | dank_fnord | Hence the smiley |
| 16:05.02 | Clyphox | (its for the boss honest) |
| 16:05.02 | dpash | AIUI the high-latency is between murb and murb's irc lcient |
| 16:05.09 | dank_fnord | The boss wants porn? |
| 16:05.15 | Clyphox | He's Italian |
| 16:05.19 | dank_fnord | :) |
| 16:05.21 | Clyphox | Actually he's selling it |
| 16:05.28 | zimm | lol |
| 16:05.32 | jenson | lol |
| 16:05.35 | Clyphox | Some punter offered him a tenna |
| 16:05.39 | dank_fnord | Heh :) |
| 16:05.45 | dank_fnord | You get all sorts. |
| 16:05.47 | dank_fnord | From Solaris to porn |
| 16:05.56 | dpash | Clyphox: you do know he has to be licensed to sell R18 films |
| 16:06.22 | Clyphox | He's selling it to a guy who sells hundreds for a living... |
| 16:06.39 | Clyphox | besides.. I don't know anything.. don't even know what I'm burning.. just doing as I'm told.. |
| 16:06.42 | jenson | Clyphox: Whats he meant to do - when he doesnt sell porn I mean |
| 16:07.03 | dank_fnord | Clyphox: "Just following orders"? |
| 16:07.03 | dpash | Clyphox: that is no excuse in law |
| 16:07.23 | dpash | Clyphox: you can and will be prosected along with your boss |
| 16:07.28 | Clyphox | I wish I never mentioned it.. |
| 16:07.35 | jenson | lol Clyphox |
| 16:08.27 | jenson | awww |
| 16:08.31 | cup | cheers |
| 16:09.01 | jenson | Clyphox: best not mention it again methinks |
| 16:09.39 | eye69 | I wonder if it's possible to tell if a CD has been burned with a specific burner. |
| 16:09.45 | zimm | yes |
| 16:09.55 | zimm | power calibration area .. |
| 16:10.13 | dpash | is that particular drive or model of drive? |
| 16:10.42 | zimm | particular drive |
| 16:10.54 | jenson | i gotta get going |
| 16:11.01 | zimm | aww ,, # |
| 16:11.04 | jenson | meant to be meeting my dad in town |
| 16:11.06 | dank_fnord | bye |
| 16:11.11 | jenson | cya dank_fnord |
| 16:11.26 | eye69 | zimm: Yeah, but how exact would that be? I mean, beoynd reasonable doubt... |
| 16:11.34 | eye69 | beyond |
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| 16:12.24 | zimm | dunno the details , i just know the power calibration area is effectively given a unique signature by the drive as it cycles |
| 16:12.50 | Clyphox | Anyone got any tissues? |
| 16:13.04 | dpash | Clyphox: you had my last one |
| 16:13.19 | dank_fnord | murb: Falcon tonight, and Hob on Thursday, if Spud comes? |
| 16:13.33 | dank_fnord | Clyphox: Have you been watching the video....? |
| 16:13.54 | Clyphox | would I be honest if I said no? |
| 16:13.56 | murb | 'k |
| 16:14.09 | eye69 | zimm: Like a serial number, or like a gun barrel? |
| 16:14.10 | dank_fnord | Unless you want a different pub. I'm not too bothered, really |
| 16:14.47 | zimm | eye69: more like a gun barrel, or the blisters on a spent case .. |
| 16:14.52 | SpudULike | Don't make plans especially around me. HW is a way to go just for a pint! |
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| 16:15.27 | dank_fnord | SpudULike: Have two or three then |
| 16:15.39 | dank_fnord | It's only 35-45 minutes out of Marylebone |
| 16:15.41 | dank_fnord | wb jason_ukfsn |
| 16:17.43 | SpudULike | What's the cost of a return Marylebone to HW? |
| 16:18.32 | dank_fnord | Not sure. Probably around £8 or so |
| 16:18.38 | dank_fnord | Maybe £9 |
| 16:18.40 | SpudULike | Four pint???? |
| 16:18.51 | SpudULike | s. Four pints???? FOUR! |
| 16:18.52 | dank_fnord | A travelcard costs £13 from Wycombe |
| 16:19.15 | dpash | mach the same as here |
| 16:19.16 | dank_fnord | SpudULike: You go to your local pub, then, and pretend you're with us |
| 16:19.22 | nasrat | SpudULike: depends if beer is cheaper in HW so you may be able to make it up |
| 16:19.28 | dpash | 13GBP or 16.60 if you want leg room |
| 16:19.49 | SpudULike | Just sop long as there's a toilet for the return leg! |
| 16:19.49 | dank_fnord | They're decomissioned first class for us |
| 16:19.51 | dpash | add an extra 10GBP for late night first class return journey |
| 16:19.57 | dank_fnord | SpudULike: There is |
| 16:20.11 | dpash | dank_fnord: the 16.60 was for a virgin train, niot 1st class |
| 16:20.13 | SpudULike | Or even a leg for the return toilet, I'm not fussed. |
| 16:20.24 | dank_fnord | Ah |
| 16:21.01 | dpash | dank_fnord: 1st class return is like 44GBP |
| 16:21.06 | dank_fnord | Eek |
| 16:21.11 | dank_fnord | Uncheap |
| 16:21.22 | dpash | dank_fnord: but late night you can upgrade for 10GBP |
| 16:21.33 | dank_fnord | Not worth it |
| 16:21.42 | dpash | so for 26GBP you get 1/2 firstclass |
| 16:21.49 | dpash | dank_fnord: I think it is as you get free food |
| 16:22.01 | dank_fnord | Ah, well. |
| 16:22.04 | dpash | so if you are hungry ;) |
| 16:22.06 | dank_fnord | :) |
| 16:22.16 | dpash | and drinks too |
| 16:22.22 | dank_fnord | We don't on the local trains |
| 16:22.26 | dpash | alcoholic ones |
| 16:22.33 | dank_fnord | :) |
| 16:22.39 | dpash | dank_fnord: this is only for virgin trains |
| 16:22.43 | dank_fnord | Ah right. |
| 16:22.51 | dpash | not silverlink trains |
| 16:23.02 | dpash | silverlink have like no leg room |
| 16:23.34 | Clyphox | mutt uses smtp right? |
| 16:23.40 | dpash | nope |
| 16:23.44 | dpash | sendmail only |
| 16:24.05 | dank_fnord | dpash: If you stand, you have lots of vertical leg room |
| 16:24.10 | murb | dpash: chiltern railways have first class for the same price. |
| 16:24.19 | dpash | 44? |
| 16:24.37 | dpash | dank_fnord: standing for 1hour is not my idea of fun |
| 16:25.13 | dpash | murb: silverlink is crap, but virgin is reasonable |
| 16:25.30 | dank_fnord | Ah. I can get to London in 32-45 minutes |
| 16:25.55 | dpash | virgin to get to london is 40mins sometimes |
| 16:27.31 | Clyphox_work | I'm in hiding from bossman now.. |
| 16:27.35 | zimm | lol |
| 16:27.36 | dank_fnord | :) |
| 16:27.42 | dank_fnord | My boss is sitting across from me |
| 16:27.53 | dpash | Clyphox_work: shoudln't be wanking at work then |
| 16:27.59 | zimm | rofl |
| 16:28.03 | Clyphox_work | rofl! |
| 16:28.13 | Clyphox_work | you get me all wrong.. |
| 16:49.24 | dank_fnord | murb: Is your phobile working? |
| 16:50.22 | murb | is my phobile moan working, good question. |
| 16:50.27 | murb | a very good question. |
| 16:51.51 | murb | my uk one sometimes works. |
| 16:52.00 | murb | but has a habbit of randomly claiming to be out of bettery |
| 16:52.01 | dank_fnord | Is it currently working? |
| 16:52.03 | dank_fnord | Ah. |
| 16:52.08 | dank_fnord | What about your Lux mobile? |
| 16:55.25 | murb | it may well work also |
| 16:56.52 | dank_fnord | Well, say, meet around 7pm at the pub? |
| 16:57.56 | murb | 'k, however i don't know how long it will take to get from here to pub. |
| 16:58.19 | dank_fnord | Where are you currently? |
| 16:59.28 | murb | Epworth house, 25 city road london, ec1y 1aa |
| 16:59.32 | murb | (4th floor) |
| 16:59.43 | dank_fnord | What time do you leave work? |
| 17:00.34 | murb | when i feel like it. |
| 17:00.38 | dank_fnord | Ah. |
| 17:00.47 | dank_fnord | What tube station are you close to? |
| 17:01.15 | murb | if anyone knows the location of a camping shop in london where i could buy skiing stuff it would be helpful. |
| 17:01.32 | murb | it would be even more helpful if you could buy what i need and deliver it to my door :) |
| 17:01.37 | dpash | murb: wouldn't it be easier to go to a skiing shop? |
| 17:03.39 | murb | dpash: if i know were der wao one. |
| 17:04.25 | nasrat | murb: http://www.edge2edge.co.uk/outlets.htm |
| 17:04.54 | nasrat | http://www.skitogshire.co.uk/ |
| 17:05.15 | nasrat | never used either and never skiid so YMMV |
| 17:06.49 | murb | and i can't even sort ouf insurance because their website require java |
| 17:08.58 | zimm | lol |
| 17:09.00 | zimm | java sux |
| 17:09.17 | dank_fnord | Only when badly done |
| 17:09.32 | nasrat | dank_fnord: what like by sun |
| 17:09.40 | dank_fnord | :) |
| 17:09.51 | dank_fnord | Yes, because the Microsoft version is so much better |
| 17:10.03 | highbury | murb: yellow pages |
| 17:10.23 | highbury | there's a good camping shop by Covent Garden |
| 17:10.47 | highbury | John Lewis / Argos for cheapie tents |
| 17:11.19 | murb | I'll probably try foxies and maybe if i'm desprate millets or the other jain one. |
| 17:11.41 | murb | highbury: i hope my aommidation organisation is sufficently organised that i wouldn't require a tent (huhn?) |
| 17:11.54 | Huhn | murb: wait and see ;) |
| 17:13.35 | dpash | highbury: argos if you want to freeze and have the thing fall apart |
| 17:16.06 | highbury | most people don't look after their tents, so they tend to fall apart after half a dozen uses, cheap ones have their place |
| 17:16.48 | highbury | of course, I wouln't stint on a decent sleeping bag |
| 17:17.02 | dpash | highbury: yep |
| 17:17.23 | murb | stop agreeing. |
| 17:17.30 | dpash | murb: no |
| 17:17.41 | murb | how can we have decent arguments if everyone agrees? |
| 17:17.50 | dank_fnord | Exactly |
| 17:17.58 | dpash | murb: darn right there |
| 17:19.05 | murb | well not unless someone stops so low as to delibratly troll others. |
| 17:19.13 | murb | s/stops/stoops/ |
| 17:19.19 | murb | I'm good as spelling really i am. |
| 17:19.27 | dank_fnord | s/as/at/ |
| 17:19.33 | Tarragon | If you are camping invest in a space blanket (Thin foil sheet) and sleep on top of it. They do make a difference |
| 17:20.19 | murb | I'm not camping, i *hope* !!! |
| 17:20.39 | murb | and invest implies spend money, and money should only be spend on beer. |
| 17:20.56 | murb | everything else unless it is in the search of such liquid is wasted. |
| 17:20.59 | Huhn | murb: make some more comments on well fed chicken and you will be camping ;)) |
| 17:21.00 | Tarragon | Beer can keep you warm. Nice rosy glow |
| 17:21.05 | murb | so petrol to drive to the pub is fine. |
| 17:21.08 | nasrat | ah nearly end of day - beer ... |
| 17:21.50 | murb | cool you didn't donitce the chicken drumsticks. |
| 17:22.25 | highbury | dpash: what catalogues |
| 17:23.06 | dank_fnord | murb: What's the closest tube station to where you are? |
| 17:23.10 | dpash | highbury: argos |
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| 17:23.39 | dank_fnord | wb SpudUAway |
| 17:23.42 | murb | moorgate or old street, if i want to get to marlyebone i want moorgate. |
| 17:23.47 | murb | or i could get to 205 bus. |
| 17:23.54 | dank_fnord | Ah, yes. |
| 17:24.02 | dank_fnord | That's about 1.5 hours from Wycombe |
| 17:24.23 | dank_fnord | (at least, Globix is, which is ~3 mins walk from Old Street) |
| 17:24.43 | murb | i thought that globix had closed. |
| 17:24.53 | dank_fnord | No - they're still going. Just very reduced |
| 17:25.01 | dank_fnord | One corner of their building is already a Pret a Manger |
| 17:25.02 | murb | alteast it doesn't say globix on it anymore. |
| 17:25.10 | murb | you mean the old companies house building? |
| 17:25.13 | highbury | They still have the New Oxford Street site? |
| 17:25.18 | murb | that is fecking near where i work. |
| 17:25.27 | dank_fnord | Erm. Oliver's Yard. |
| 17:25.30 | murb | if you go down there let me know. |
| 17:25.34 | murb | Dank: yep that is the dump. |
| 17:25.37 | dank_fnord | :) |
| 17:25.49 | dank_fnord | I will - not sure when I'll be there next |
| 17:26.03 | dank_fnord | . o O (power down a machine) |
| 17:30.06 | murb | ooh someone is mooting a pubmeet in london. |
| 17:30.28 | dank_fnord | when, where? |
| 17:30.40 | murb | pendrals oak |
| 17:30.53 | murb | this evening |
| 17:31.01 | dank_fnord | Where's that? |
| 17:31.36 | murb | near holborn |
| 17:31.51 | dank_fnord | Hrm |
| 17:32.12 | murb | go out of the read only exit turn left and walk. |
| 17:35.52 | murb | wycombe or nodnol? |
| 17:37.50 | dank_fnord | I'd come to Wycombe |
| 17:39.05 | dank_fnord | Come to Wycombe... |
| 17:39.10 | dank_fnord | You were in nodnol last week |
| 17:41.18 | murb | 'k wycombe it is then. |
| 17:41.24 | dank_fnord | Cool |
| 17:41.39 | dank_fnord | See you then, when, around 7.30ish? |
| 17:42.02 | murb | ok, i'll start to leave soon. |
| 17:43.16 | dank_fnord | Can you give me a call when you're leaving Marylebone? I should be able to then meet you at Wycombe station. |
| 17:43.40 | murb | ok. |
| 17:43.50 | murb | if i have your correct number |
| 17:45.11 | dank_fnord | You do... |
| 17:45.39 | dank_fnord | Both the same |
| 17:45.42 | murb | redudant dank numbers |
| 17:45.45 | dank_fnord | YEah. |
| 17:45.48 | murb | i must have corrected the other one. |
| 17:45.50 | dank_fnord | Does one have a +44 in front? |
| 17:45.52 | dank_fnord | Yah |
| 17:45.55 | murb | so redudant i shoudl delete both. |
| 17:45.58 | murb | should i? |
| 17:48.42 | dank_fnord | Heh. |
| 17:49.18 | dank_fnord | Bye all |
| 17:49.27 | Huhn | have fun |
| 17:49.45 | dank_fnord | Beer...geek...how could I not? :) |
| 17:50.33 | cup | night |
| 17:50.37 | dank_fnord | night |
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| 18:01.07 | zimm | wb Jenson |
| 18:01.12 | Jenson | ty zimm |
| 18:01.34 | Jenson | zimm: I found my Adema CD. You want a copy? |
| 18:01.43 | zimm | ooooo |
| 18:01.47 | zimm | yeh ..; |
| 18:02.12 | Jenson | ok cool |
| 18:02.18 | Jenson | i'll do that later hon |
| 18:02.20 | Jenson | if i dont forget |
| 18:02.35 | zimm | hehe |
| 18:02.38 | Jenson | and my midi is working today - well kind of anyway |
| 18:02.44 | zimm | yeh ? |
| 18:02.49 | zimm | weird .. |
| 18:02.59 | Jenson | lol |
| 18:03.08 | Jenson | its a bit fscked but its working today |
| 18:03.10 | zimm | what did you change ? |
| 18:03.23 | Jenson | nothing |
| 18:03.25 | zimm | lol |
| 18:03.31 | zimm | bl88dy wi88888ws |
| 18:03.31 | Jenson | i was just gonna test it to see why it didnt work |
| 18:03.46 | Jenson | lol this is linux |
| 18:03.52 | zimm | oh ,, ool |
| 18:03.54 | Jenson | i'm not even gobnna attempt win |
| 18:03.54 | zimm | :( |
| 18:03.55 | Jenson | lol |
| 18:03.57 | zimm | lol |
| 18:04.33 | Jenson | i ought to boot into win and fix the sound, but then again i might aswell install XP...that#ll keep them happy |
| 18:04.47 | zimm | hehe ,,, you have an XP disc ? |
| 18:04.52 | Jenson | Although my mothers answer to that was 'why dont you get what we've got working first |
| 18:04.57 | Jenson | Nope, but you do :P |
| 18:05.01 | zimm | true ,, |
| 18:05.11 | zimm | id reccomend win2k though .. |
| 18:05.13 | zimm | XP sux |
| 18:05.21 | Jenson | yeah but they both use it at work |
| 18:05.28 | zimm | k |
| 18:05.44 | zimm | i dunno about cracking it though .. |
| 18:05.56 | Jenson | lol we just ignore it |
| 18:06.05 | Jenson | then when it stops working i'll blame microsoft |
| 18:06.11 | Jenson | and force them ointo skacj |
| 18:06.14 | Jenson | erm slack |
| 18:06.17 | Jenson | i cant type tonight |
| 18:06.20 | zimm | lol |
| 18:06.55 | Jenson | where the hell is everyone else? |
| 18:07.03 | zimm | the pub i think . |
| 18:07.16 | Jenson | all of them? |
| 18:07.33 | zimm | dunno ... some of them .. |
| 18:07.41 | Jenson | no matter |
| 18:07.42 | zimm | or at least , in transit to the pub . |
| 18:08.02 | Jenson | I have 4 cotton wool sheep on lolly sticks here |
| 18:08.08 | zimm | w00t |
| 18:08.09 | Jenson | some of them are for you lol |
| 18:08.11 | zimm | wtf for ? |
| 18:08.19 | Jenson | making them with 4 year olds this morning |
| 18:08.24 | Jenson | except I made 4 lol |
| 18:08.31 | Jenson | coz it was fun |
| 18:08.34 | zimm | what am i gonna do with a cotton wool sheep on a lolly stick ? |
| 18:08.41 | Jenson | I dunno |
| 18:08.46 | Jenson | put it on the wall |
| 18:08.49 | zimm | ok ,,, |
| 18:09.10 | Jenson | they look more like dememnted maggots actually |
| 18:09.21 | zimm | demented maggots .. LOL |
| 18:09.59 | zimm | hmm .. |
| 18:12.32 | zimm | why dont you come here and i'll tell you .. ! :P |
| 18:12.55 | Jenson | heh, would if i could :D |
| 18:13.00 | zimm | hehe ,, |
| 18:13.11 | zimm | damn some guy wants me toi fill in a questionnaire .. |
| 18:13.13 | zimm | bbiab |
| 18:13.21 | Jenson | k then |
| 18:16.41 | zimm | back .. |
| 18:16.57 | Jenson | lol |
| 18:17.10 | zimm | awww |
| 18:17.39 | Jenson | I'd wanna just fall asleep on someone or something |
| 18:17.57 | Jenson | I ate far too much McDonalds today...so I'll be whinging about spots tomorrow lol |
| 18:18.20 | zimm | lol.., i cant believe you walked ALL the way to McDonalds ,, |
| 18:18.24 | zimm | its fsckin miles |
| 18:18.34 | Jenson | lol it aint far |
| 18:19.05 | zimm | hmm , maybe not ,., |
| 18:19.12 | zimm | its still a fair old way though |
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| 18:19.39 | Jenson | heya dpash |
| 18:19.42 | Jenson | heya formi |
| 18:19.45 | formi | hi |
| 18:19.51 | Jenson | zimm: I wandered around most of the day anyway |
| 18:19.54 | Jenson | thats why I'm tired |
| 18:20.07 | formi | quick question, is anybody using smoothwall in here? |
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| 18:20.20 | zimm | lol, at least you'll have worked off all the Mc-Calories |
| 18:20.43 | Jenson | Hi dankolb |
| 18:20.51 | Jenson | zimm: We'll see how fat I get |
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| 18:21.29 | Jenson | re dankolb |
| 18:21.43 | dankolb | hi |
| 18:22.10 | Jenson | How are you Dan? |
| 18:22.19 | zimm | hey dankolb |
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| 18:23.15 | dpash | formi: no I use my own fw CD |
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| 18:29.53 | zimm | hey dankolb |
| 18:29.54 | Jenson | wb Dan |
| 18:30.13 | Jenson | zimm: Dan isn't speaking to you ATM, for obvious reasons, so leave him alone yeah |
| 18:31.17 | zimm | whatever |
| 18:31.26 | Jenson | :) |
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| 18:32.48 | Jenson | oh ffs |
| 18:32.49 | dankolb | Just like him, then |
| 18:32.53 | Jenson | how pathetic |
| 18:32.56 | dankolb | Yup |
| 18:32.59 | Jenson | lol |
| 18:33.01 | Jenson | we agree |
| 18:33.05 | dankolb | Uhhuh |
| 18:33.24 | Huhn | here we go again |
| 18:33.31 | Jenson | lol no we're not Huhn |
| 18:34.24 | Jenson | Huhn: How are you? |
| 18:34.43 | Huhn | Jenson: apart from this crappy article I'm fine, thanks ;) |
| 18:34.48 | Jenson | :) |
| 18:47.23 | dankolb | Food time |
| 18:47.26 | dankolb | Back sometime |
| 18:47.34 | Jenson | cya Dan |
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| 18:47.47 | Jenson | hi nasrat |
| 18:47.50 | nasrat | hi |
| 18:56.44 | HuhnDELIRIUM | -> pub |
| 18:56.46 | HuhnDELIRIUM | bye |
| 18:56.59 | Jenson | cya HuhnDELIRIUM |
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| 19:09.34 | Jenson | hi cupis |
| 19:09.55 | cupis | hi Jenson |
| 19:28.35 | Jenson | BBL |
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| 19:40.29 | st3w4rt | hello |
| 19:41.19 | st3w4rt | i am looking for a distro that will be suitable to run on a laptop alongside winXP, any ideas? |
| 19:42.44 | st3w4rt | no!?! |
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| 21:21.22 | Clyphox | re |
| 21:26.16 | Clyphox | I'm installing netbsd again.. |
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| 22:14.45 | Clyphox | I'm starting to hate netbsd |
| 22:15.43 | Leeds | Apparently it doesn't like you either, so says the word on the street |
| 22:17.39 | Clyphox | so it seems.. trying to install on my desktop box atmm |
| 22:17.50 | Clyphox | At least it hasn't wipede my HDD like earlier |
| 22:18.04 | Clyphox | And I seem to understand the fdisking perfectly now.. |
| 22:18.17 | highbury | what are you installining netbsd on? |
| 22:19.26 | Clyphox | Dual P3 |
| 22:19.32 | Clyphox | (boring I know) |
| 22:19.38 | Clyphox | I dno't have anything else.. |
| 22:20.37 | highbury | .. better to do? |
| 22:21.23 | highbury | so why not something else, like Linux or FreeBSD? (OpenBSD won't work on dual machine) |
| 22:21.30 | Clyphox | I like having many OS'es to choose from.. just adding another.. |
| 22:21.40 | highbury | netbsd is mostly intended for weird hardware |
| 22:22.13 | Clyphox | I have BeOS,the 3 Linuxes |
| 22:22.44 | Clyphox | netbsd is intended for simplicity.. it just seems to get ported to everything hehe :-) |
| 22:23.11 | Clyphox | Woohoo I'm into the system |
| 22:23.45 | highbury | NetBSD is oriented round getting running on as much as possible, I'd prefer something which utilised the hardware I had, not a bunch of old legacy systems |
| 22:24.06 | highbury | .. but I guess if you have the spare systems, why not |
| 22:24.36 | Clyphox | Its great for me cause I like old systems.. |
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| 22:25.21 | Clyphox | I run Linux on the desktop for my USB/Bluetooth and whatever else thats "new" then put netbsd on my Vaxen/sparc/HP/ppc stuff when I can buy them :-) |
| 22:25.25 | Clyphox | (in theory hehe) |
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| 22:27.23 | Davilion | evening all |
| 22:29.03 | Clyphox | er.. bye.. |
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| 22:33.44 | Clyphox | wb |
| 22:34.56 | Davilion | thanks, |
| 22:35.03 | Davilion | i really need to stop typing halt in the wrong window |
| 22:35.16 | Davilion | iv'e just got 129 emails from the same guy |
| 22:35.25 | Davilion | i think he got a bit impatient with his email client. |
| 22:36.47 | Clyphox | !! |
| 22:36.56 | Clyphox | ALl the same email? |
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| 23:05.18 | formi | hello |
| 23:05.35 | simon | Hello there. |
| 23:05.43 | formi | HuhnDELIRIUM: what are you up to? |
| 23:05.48 | formi | hi simon |
| 23:06.01 | simon | hi |
| 23:06.45 | formi | yesterday i heard some conspiracy theory about using real names on irc |
| 23:07.02 | simon | Oh really -- go on! |
| 23:07.52 | formi | you got to ask murb or pdr |
| 23:08.46 | formi | they babled something, i only got half of it, and even didn't understand what is was about |
| 23:08.53 | simon | Umm, Ok! Murb or pdr care to expand on this? |
| 23:09.26 | simon | Getting a bit "political" on the list today, don't you think. |
| 23:09.38 | formi | don't mention it |
| 23:10.28 | simon | Yeah, maybe a little too O/T, |
| 23:11.30 | simon | I work (too many) Saturdays -- are all the GLLUG meetings in Westminster Uni, I caught the December one |
| 23:11.31 | formi | well some people luck brains |
| 23:18.20 | Clyphox | I work Sat too :9 |
| 23:27.47 | simon | Anyone here use a Zaurus? I'm looking to buy a Ethernet CF Card for mine on Tottenham Court Road tomorrow. Any recommendations? |
| 23:30.42 | formi | Clyphox: any idea where is everybody? |
| 23:30.55 | formi | am i am missing any meeting? |
| 23:31.56 | formi | ibot: where did you put the logs? |
| 23:31.57 | | formi: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 23:32.10 | formi | ibot: logs? |
| 23:32.10 | | http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
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| 23:40.27 | OrangeSkies | hey all |
| 23:45.39 | Clyphox | nn |
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| 23:53.26 | dankolb | Evening |
| 23:58.57 | murb | blah |
| 23:59.06 | formi | murb |
| 23:59.13 | formi | les |
| 23:59.22 | formi | murb-less |