00:00.45 | pdr | 1 hour |
00:00.59 | pdr | murb: yes, although he married a turk last week |
00:01.41 | formi | pdr: italian housemate previous boyfriend was form istanbul |
00:03.24 | pdr | a guy from istanbul was to move into my place, but he was murdered at home |
00:06.26 | murb | in turkey? |
00:06.57 | murb | pdr: does that make him an honarary wannabee member of the EU? |
00:08.02 | formi | murb: NOPE, there are many people in the eu completely against turkey entering the group |
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00:09.00 | murb | hi tom |
00:09.10 | formi | that is one of the reason turkey didn't allow highly paid for warmongering to the us |
00:09.23 | dankolb_ | hi Tom |
00:09.50 | formi | allo |
00:10.00 | resuDaed | morning all |
00:10.13 | pdr | murb: yes, in turkey. |
00:10.37 | pdr | murb: I'm not sure of what country(ies) he had a passport |
00:11.09 | pdr | hi resuDaed |
00:12.53 | resuDaed | am going to bed now, night all |
00:13.00 | dankolb_ | 'night |
00:13.03 | pdr | night |
00:13.13 | resuDaed | dankolb_ : see you on saturday |
00:13.21 | dankolb_ | You do |
00:13.32 | dankolb_ | That's another few days away |
00:25.30 | dankolb_ | night all |
00:56.26 | pdr | saturday? |
00:56.31 | formi | what it shouldn't be happening |
00:57.59 | formi | pdr: i have checked my mate site at the charity with ie 6 and it is rendered perfectly |
00:59.26 | eye69 | 17 iraqi soldiers reported to have surrendered |
01:00.17 | pdr | eye69: i reckon it's not true - just a psycological tactic |
01:01.56 | formi | such a big number is such an achievement |
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01:04.34 | pdr | hello |
01:16.48 | murb | GPS is still working. |
01:22.35 | HuhnZzZ | nn |
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01:22.54 | formi | hight HuhnZzZ |
01:23.10 | HuhnZzZ | nn formi |
01:23.30 | formi | s/hight/night |
01:24.39 | pdr | looks like nothing's gonna happen tonight |
01:36.53 | formi | night |
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07:38.10 | Clyphox | <PROTECTED> |
08:08.52 | Tarragon | Happy Birthday Clyphox_a ! |
09:01.03 | dank_work | Morning |
09:09.02 | Tarragon | Moin |
09:09.59 | dpash | shit's hit the fan |
09:10.06 | dpash | see you all Saturday |
09:10.17 | dank_work | What happened? |
09:10.27 | Tarragon | War |
09:10.32 | dank_work | Well, yeah. |
09:10.36 | dpash | ibot: lart dank_work |
09:10.49 | dank_work | Apart from that. |
09:11.28 | dpash | what you want more? |
09:11.43 | dank_work | "I vant everything" |
09:40.47 | dank_work | Are you a bearded 'terrorist'? |
09:42.06 | dank_work | Exactly |
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10:06.08 | *** join/#gllug cup (~cup@host213-120-127-23.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
10:06.16 | cup | morning |
10:06.21 | dank_work | morning simon, cup |
10:13.36 | simon | Morning to you too... |
10:13.43 | dpash | /. unbiased news is interesting |
10:13.59 | dpash | someone seems to think the british are cool and polite |
10:15.29 | simon | Where is that?? |
10:16.29 | dank_work | Woot. NetBSD is 10 tomorrow |
10:18.05 | murb | whilst openbsd has always behaved like a spoilt teenager? |
10:19.04 | dank_work | Only some of it :) |
10:19.44 | murb | which pub? |
10:20.50 | dank_work | Tonight? |
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10:43.05 | dank_work | hi paul |
10:43.09 | nasrat | hi |
10:49.18 | dpash | argh customer is not getting any emails |
10:49.31 | dpash | have tested use smtp and the servers work |
10:49.36 | dpash | so it aint our fault |
10:57.45 | dpash | wb |
10:58.00 | HuhnZ | moin |
11:20.56 | dank_work | moin |
11:21.17 | HuhnZ | hi dank_work |
11:24.15 | dpash | HuhnZ: are you just slightly sleepy then? |
11:24.25 | dpash | not entirely away |
11:24.28 | dpash | awake |
11:25.15 | HuhnZ | yes, half awake, half asleep |
11:26.13 | dank_work | Sort of like a > |
11:26.42 | dpash | or < |
11:26.45 | dank_work | Maybe: |
11:26.46 | dank_work | _ |
11:26.48 | Tarragon | 7 would be 3/4 of a Z |
11:26.48 | dank_work | <PROTECTED> |
11:26.51 | dank_work | Urg |
11:26.56 | dank_work | <PROTECTED> |
11:26.56 | dank_work | <PROTECTED> |
11:27.07 | dank_work | That's about half a Z |
11:27.20 | dpash | HuhnZ7 then |
11:27.22 | HuhnZ | mhmh...chrr |
11:27.39 | dpash | maybe Huhn7z would be nearer 1/2 |
11:28.46 | HuhnZ | dpash: thanks... *cuddletux* |
11:33.00 | dpash | awwww how cute ;) |
11:36.08 | HuhnZ | chrr |
11:39.45 | dpash | chrr? |
11:40.02 | dank_work | chrr |
11:40.06 | dank_work | CHR$() |
11:40.26 | pdr | dank_work: asc() |
11:40.39 | dank_work | That too :) |
11:40.52 | pdr | it's been about 10 years since i did any basic |
11:41.08 | murb | !ibot lart BASIC |
11:41.15 | dank_work | ibot lart BASIC |
11:53.35 | dpash | okay I fscked up. I thought our client has smtp feed, but they were using fetchmail and fetchmail had died |
11:53.39 | dpash | so it was our fault |
11:53.50 | dank_work | Ah |
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11:57.46 | dank_work | hi formi |
11:57.54 | formi | hello |
11:58.16 | dank_work | feeling lucky, punk? |
11:58.21 | formi | nope |
11:58.41 | formi | i did drop a heavy bood on my wireless card |
11:58.50 | formi | it was quite bend |
11:59.04 | formi | after straighten it |
11:59.08 | formi | it works |
11:59.18 | formi | s/bood/book |
11:59.50 | dank_work | :) |
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12:08.26 | dank_work | hi SpyPigeon |
12:14.29 | dpash | SpyPigeon: you are in Luton? |
12:18.28 | SpyPigeon | What now? Or generally? |
12:18.35 | dpash | generally |
12:18.40 | SpyPigeon | yep |
12:18.51 | dpash | do you fancy coming to Bedslug? |
12:19.07 | SpyPigeon | Where's it held? |
12:19.11 | dpash | Bedford |
12:19.18 | dpash | train? |
12:19.35 | SpyPigeon | Possible... |
12:20.06 | dpash | we need people |
12:20.14 | dpash | the last meeting was about 9 people |
12:20.15 | dank_work | "People...who need people..." |
12:20.32 | SpyPigeon | I could be tempted then...whens the next meet? |
12:20.42 | dpash | not sure yet |
12:20.57 | dpash | I am going to prod for a date soon |
12:21.32 | SpyPigeon | We tried one in Luton a while back to LuSt - |
12:21.38 | SpyPigeon | - two of us turned up :( |
12:21.54 | SpyPigeon | <PROTECTED> |
12:22.11 | dank_work | Might be a bit far for me to go from Wycombe |
12:22.12 | dpash | SpyPigeon: there was someone from Luton at the last meet |
12:22.26 | dank_work | There were 2 people at the Wycombe LUG meeting on Tuesday :-) |
12:22.31 | dpash | SpyPigeon: if there is a Luton/St Albans give me a shout |
12:22.39 | dpash | 2 at the last MK too |
12:22.47 | dank_work | South Bucks |
12:22.52 | dpash | which is why I have decided to do talks at the next mklug |
12:22.54 | dank_work | Train from Marylebone |
12:23.31 | dank_work | BAH! |
12:23.43 | dank_work | Do you know where Oxford is? |
12:23.47 | dpash | SpyPigeon: tart. You live right next to it |
12:23.55 | dank_work | What about London? |
12:24.09 | highbury | KDE 3.1.1 announced |
12:24.09 | dpash | SpyPigeon: just the other side of dunstable |
12:24.22 | dpash | highbury: debian already has 3.1.1 |
12:24.27 | dank_work | According to his ident, it's 'x' :) |
12:24.34 | Malcolm | Of course I know my own name! |
12:24.43 | Susan | Who's saying I don't! |
12:24.54 | HuhnZ | :) |
12:24.57 | Susan | So there!!!!! |
12:25.16 | dpash | Can I be frank. only if I can be susan |
12:25.18 | Tarragon | Susan: I knew it! |
12:25.31 | dank_work | Some people's true identities only come out on IRC |
12:25.48 | resuDaed | for some reason, people keep calling me Tom |
12:26.00 | dpash | Susan: bitch? |
12:26.18 | Tarragon | Susan: No not a dog, you are not that ugly...on the other hand... |
12:26.20 | Susan | No, I'm a very good girl ;) |
12:26.21 | highbury | dpash: thats pretty quick, since it was onyl just announced. I'm sure they done a fine quality release like they did last time for Gnome 2.2 and KDE 3.1 </sarcasm off> |
12:27.13 | dpash | highbury: if you were on the kde-packager list you woul dknow that kde3.1.1 was tagged at least a week ago |
12:27.25 | formi | SpyPigeon: I always thought you had an air of crossdresser about you :-> |
12:27.38 | Tarragon | SpyPigeon: In the bin when you became Susan? |
12:27.50 | SpyPigeon | ? |
12:28.23 | resuDaed | morning all |
12:28.29 | dank_work | Hi Tom |
12:28.30 | dpash | highbury: date of tagging != date of announcement |
12:30.57 | highbury | dpash: ah I forgot, of course. I'm already on too many mailing lists, which I don't read. |
12:31.19 | dpash | highbury: I doubt you are on the kde-packager list |
12:32.59 | highbury | correct |
12:33.22 | highbury | I tend to wait for official SuSE updates |
12:33.48 | dank_work | Back in an hour or so |
12:35.02 | dpash | BlobbyBLoke: are you pink with spots? |
12:35.06 | dpash | and annoying |
12:35.10 | SpyPigeon | no and yes |
12:35.12 | SpyPigeon | (in that order!) |
12:36.21 | nasrat | grr |
12:36.43 | dpash | HuhnWORK: what ya working on? |
12:40.01 | resuDaed | about fscking time too, debian have finally fixed kmail for kde3 |
12:40.15 | HuhnWORK | dpash: article on env. variables.. have to finish some things before ski trip |
12:40.33 | resuDaed | just happens to be a 17.9MB download |
12:40.43 | dpash | resuDaed: kmail has always been available |
12:40.52 | formi | HuhnWORK: add $SAFETY=yes |
12:40.59 | dpash | resuDaed: if you went to #debian-kde you would have found out |
12:41.00 | resuDaed | dpash, it has been broken for the past week or so |
12:41.10 | dpash | resuDaed: how so? |
12:41.40 | dpash | formi: that won't work |
12:41.41 | resuDaed | apt-get install kde3, kmail disappeared rom my system, apt-get install kmail - its 'broken' |
12:42.03 | resuDaed | not that I use kde3, I just wanted to have a look |
12:42.19 | resuDaed | dpash : I am on testing/unstable |
12:42.21 | formi | dpash: It was a polite suggestion, not meant to be techically accurate |
12:42.48 | dpash | formi: what does it do anyway? |
12:43.25 | formi | dpash: go forth and grow a brain |
12:45.02 | eye69 | http://tlf.cx/bilder/bushblairbondevikplease.gif |
12:47.50 | resuDaed | ouch, kmail is'nt working anyway :-( |
12:49.44 | dpash | http://www.newscorp.com is scary |
12:49.47 | dpash | resuDaed: how so? |
12:49.53 | dpash | resuDaed: #debian-kde please |
12:53.41 | dpash | formi: because it is easier to set up email addresses on a per folder basis |
12:55.12 | formi | i don't know, haven't used it sine pre 1 versions |
12:55.24 | formi | but every week somebody complains about it |
12:55.36 | Tarragon | formi: I like the pretty pictures |
12:56.10 | formi | Tarragon: are you being cheap? |
12:58.29 | Tarragon | No it is just KMail is easy to set up for multiple addresses. My problem is the scoring makes it slow. If anything goes wrong with it (I have folders with 20K messages) then because it is a standard format I can recover |
13:00.05 | formi | Tarragon: im not asking about its real features, just asking if you are being cheap by just pointing to the nice pictures |
13:00.38 | Tarragon | Oh Yeah I guess. |
13:05.05 | formi | ibot: Tarragon is also cheap. (Own admission). |
13:05.07 | | formi: okay |
13:07.05 | Tarragon | :-) |
13:07.17 | Tarragon | ibot tarragon |
13:07.18 | | methinks tarragon is a tall Northern bloke, or getting taller sideways. cheap. (Own admission). |
13:07.42 | formi | awesome truthful description, hehe |
13:16.58 | Tarragon | Anyone running Mandrake Cooker? |
13:17.06 | resuDaed | laters all, must work |
13:21.29 | dpash | Tarragon: as if |
13:24.11 | nasrat | Tarragon: I was running it on ppc a while back why |
13:31.59 | Tarragon | What directories should I be mirroring? |
13:39.20 | nasrat | /Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/ and below, though you may want to just grab the ISO's for the RC |
13:39.37 | nasrat | though you shouldn't need to mirror just setup urpmi |
13:40.19 | nasrat | 9.1 will be released soon though - see http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php for urpmi |
13:42.35 | Tarragon | There has been a small discussion about releasing the iso's later after clubmembers and box sets |
13:43.37 | nasrat | well RC iso's then urpmi from cooker. Then when it's released replace your mandrake-release rpm and change your urpmi settings |
14:01.12 | Tarragon | Thanks |
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14:19.08 | SpyPigeon | Quick question: anyone got any reliability info/stories about NTL (them & BT are the only broadband supplies to my area :( |
14:19.49 | dank_work | People whinge about their customer support (unless you call at 2am) |
14:20.07 | Tarragon | I use NTL. not too bad except the 1GB download limit per day. |
14:20.10 | dank_work | But I haven't actually heard that much about them being overly unreliable network wise |
14:20.10 | SpyPigeon | Linux people whinge? If so, it must work at least some of the time ;) |
14:21.25 | qwertzz | tarragon: 1gb a day ? |
14:22.35 | dank_work | Approximately, yes |
14:22.54 | SpyPigeon | Perhaps I should call them, then... |
14:22.55 | dank_work | They don't mind you occasionally going over |
14:23.29 | Tarragon | http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2130202,00.html |
14:24.28 | qwertzz | haha - thats hilarious. people cringing about that, i used to have 500 meg a month dload on my cable |
14:24.35 | dpash | SpyPigeon: just because BT provide ADSL, doesn;t mean that you need to use BT Openworld |
14:25.46 | SpyPigeon | dpash: I guessed that _whatever_ service I used, I would only be using half of it ;) |
14:26.45 | dpash | ? |
14:27.21 | SpyPigeon | ...only use the half involved in the physical connection. The 'free' software half bundled with Openworld et al would remain unopened on my (evercrowded) desk |
14:31.53 | dank_work | heh |
14:32.26 | highbury | I was kicked off Freeserve Anytime package a couple of years ago, for overuse :-/ |
14:33.18 | murb | highbury: me2 |
14:33.35 | eye69 | highbury: Pathetic |
14:34.04 | qwertzz | me too. |
14:36.22 | SpyPigeon | thanx guys, I'm gonna give 'em a call. Who wants to put odds I get someone who's never heard of Linux and asks 'Is that Win95 or better?' ;) |
14:37.43 | dank_work | At this time, very likely |
14:37.53 | highbury | I don't see the point of using a Broadband ISP who limits the amount of usage |
14:37.55 | dank_work | Call it MacOS X :) |
14:38.03 | dank_work | They limit overusage |
14:38.15 | dank_work | Downloading > 1Gb a day, every day, is a bit excessive |
14:38.42 | dank_work | They're not going to mind if you, say, download the three RH8.0 ISOs |
14:38.51 | highbury | not for a broadband connection, which will increasingly be shared |
14:38.51 | murb | dank: why is a gb a day excessive? |
14:39.04 | nasrat | dank_work: you could be doing backups to home |
14:39.09 | murb | why can't i download a 6 cd debian iso set? |
14:39.13 | dank_work | You can |
14:39.13 | murb | or mirror debian? |
14:39.20 | SpyPigeon | ...but everyday?? |
14:39.26 | murb | I mirrored debian on my ntl cablemodem |
14:39.32 | murb | SpyPigeon: well rsync updates every night. |
14:39.33 | dank_work | If you mirror Debian, you don't download the whole lot every day |
14:39.33 | highbury | as more and more people role out wireless in the homes, it would be stupid to pick NTL as a Broadband ISP |
14:39.54 | dank_work | Of course, the ISPs have a finite amount of bandwidth, too |
14:40.10 | highbury | well rsync doesn't download what it doesn't need |
14:40.39 | dank_work | If you're rsyncing Debian mirrors, it's unlikely you're downloading more than a few hundred megs a day (if that) |
14:40.54 | murb | highbury: debian can be up to several gb a night. |
14:41.30 | highbury | I mirror about 56 sites, several daily, the rest weekly |
14:41.34 | murb | although they are i think going to use the gzip --rsyncingable option to make it more efficent. |
14:41.50 | highbury | and that's just sites, the sometimes are several packages per site |
14:41.50 | murb | highbury: the reason for mirroring debian is to make local installs quick. |
14:42.07 | highbury | which is why, I mirror |
14:43.20 | highbury | the only thing I don't like about "rsync" is the file exclusion syntax is a bit basic, I prefer "mirror" which allows perl-like regular expressions |
14:44.17 | murb | is mirror still maintained? |
14:44.18 | nasrat | diy librsync and pcre :) |
14:44.29 | murb | I know i used to use it for my demon web stuff. |
14:44.58 | murb | nasrat: i assume you've played with teh rsync http lirbary for making webproxies faster? |
14:45.28 | nasrat | rproxy, yeah a little. |
14:46.29 | nasrat | when I played with doing the google coding thing I looked at deltas using the rsync library |
14:46.34 | murb | does it still frequently crash? |
14:46.48 | highbury | murb: it doesn't appear to be maintained, but it still works. The only problems I have with it, is with downloads.sourceforge.net which does wacky ftp redirects which confuse it. solved by picking on a specific mirror |
14:54.23 | murb | is anyone pubing this evening? |
14:54.27 | dank_work | Where? |
14:55.08 | murb | I don't know, I'll see if there are any planned events in london first. |
14:55.14 | dank_work | Okay |
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15:08.29 | eye69 | There, 2.4.20 patched. Ptrace exploit no longer working. :) |
15:10.08 | dank_work | Good. |
15:10.24 | murb | eye69: I take the few that any of my users that thry nasty stuff like that i no longer trust, and so they don't have accounts anymore. |
15:10.28 | murb | s/few/view/ |
15:11.28 | murb | I also can't randomly reboot machines that people use to apply kernel updates. |
15:11.49 | murb | If i do it today forinstance i might not be able to get to my machine to fix it for 12 days. |
15:13.16 | eye69 | Luckily I don't have that problem. The server could be rebooted with the old kernel within a few hours, and there aren't that many users on the system. |
15:15.44 | murb | I don't like rebooting machines... |
15:16.08 | murb | Especally when there are no clueful people in same country as machine. |
15:17.43 | SpyPigeon | re - just spoke with NTL: they're coming to install stuff next wednesday :))) |
15:17.53 | eye69 | SpyPigeon: Congrats. |
15:18.05 | SpyPigeon | They also said that exceeding the 1gb/day limit would result in getting cut off |
15:18.07 | SpyPigeon | :( |
15:18.44 | SpyPigeon | But she was just repeating what her supervisor said |
15:18.50 | murb | SpyPigeon: they tend to accidently cut off customers all the time so that shouldn't make any difference. |
15:19.07 | murb | SpyPigeon: did you buy a cablemodem? I have a spare one, and you should get 5 quid off a month for supplying your own kit. |
15:19.45 | SpyPigeon | Part of their current promotion is a free one (with USB & ethernet capabilities) |
15:20.11 | SpyPigeon | I wouldn't have time to source it any this stage of the day (busy all month) |
15:20.24 | SpyPigeon | but if the offers open when life calms down I might take you up on it |
15:20.29 | SpyPigeon | ?Trade for a beer? |
15:20.31 | SpyPigeon | ;) |
16:09.25 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
16:09.54 | dank_work | Beer? |
16:10.01 | formi | anybody going to the kings X event tonight?? |
16:10.27 | dank_work | what event? |
16:10.39 | formi | dank_work: some of us all evening alcoholics, not full blown alcoholics...! |
16:10.47 | formi | s/all/are |
16:10.53 | dank_work | :) |
16:15.09 | formi | i have to work tomorrow, so beer today or dryness until sat |
16:27.23 | formi | bbbbbbbbbbbeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
16:27.47 | formi | the word doesn't have the same appeal as it used to |
16:28.22 | nasrat | dank_work: nah perry |
16:28.28 | formi | ibot: slap dank_work |
16:28.29 | | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, formi |
16:28.38 | dank_work | Shandy? |
16:29.05 | formi | GOSH, I have to do everything by myself |
16:30.25 | dank_work | Yup |
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16:43.58 | marko85_uk | hey everyone |
16:44.32 | marko85_uk | i wrote to onetel about my internet connection and they replyed saying they do not support linux connection |
16:44.44 | dank_work | Back to using Windows with you, then |
16:45.08 | marko85_uk | is anyone here using 56 k modem |
16:45.10 | marko85_uk | why? |
16:45.37 | dank_work | Because they don't support Linux |
16:46.04 | marko85_uk | well i am using linux now and i am on onetel at the moment |
16:46.11 | marko85_uk | but connection is only like 2.3 kb/s |
16:46.27 | marko85_uk | i just tried installing flash plug in and it wont do it |
16:46.46 | marko85_uk | it asks me for location of mozilla and i say its /usr/lib/mozilla |
16:46.50 | marko85_uk | and it wont accept that |
16:47.13 | eye69 | Try /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins |
16:47.24 | marko85_uk | i have done that one as well |
16:47.47 | marko85_uk | it tell me on the website that directory called install_flash_player_6_linux |
16:47.57 | marko85_uk | will be created when i unzip the file but it doesnt |
16:48.07 | marko85_uk | what is the command for unzipping a file again |
16:48.12 | marko85_uk | its tar.gz |
16:48.15 | marko85_uk | or something like that |
16:48.31 | dank_work | tar -xzf |
16:48.36 | nasrat | tar xzvf flash-plugin-6.0.69.tar.gz |
17:04.22 | dank_work | Urgh. |
17:04.26 | dank_work | Documentation-- |
17:05.52 | formi | marko85_uk: im using a 56k modem |
17:05.52 | highbury | xpvf is a better option for tar |
17:06.26 | highbury | we've all used them, most analogue modems are 56k |
17:06.27 | formi | marko85_uk: onetel does work with linux |
17:06.39 | formi | i used to use their 1p deal |
17:08.50 | formi | marko85_uk: you need nothing special to connect to them |
17:09.33 | formi | marko85_uk: when they say they don't support linux they mean "we don't troubleshoot linux problems" |
17:09.53 | formi | onetel does use linux and freebsd on their servers |
17:11.15 | formi | somebody correct me if i am wrong: i suppose the reason they don't "support" anything *nix style would be that it is way too complicated |
17:11.27 | dank_work | Yeah |
17:11.37 | dank_work | Too many different possible setups/problems to troubleshoot |
17:18.23 | dank_work | formi: That would involve being physically close to people like him |
17:19.39 | formi | dank_work: i keep telling you im not gay :-> |
17:19.59 | dank_work | Actually, I don't think you've ever told *me* you're not gay |
17:20.00 | dank_work | :) |
17:20.02 | formi | dank_work: look for another bloke, you'll have no luck with me |
17:29.01 | formi | oh bollocks |
17:29.07 | formi | sh*t |
17:29.57 | formi | Huhn: comming tonight |
17:30.15 | formi | ? |
17:30.27 | Huhn | formi: ? |
17:30.57 | formi | beer festival near the church is kings cross |
17:31.03 | formi | beer festival near the church in kings cross |
17:31.20 | Huhn | I can't? I'm in Germany? :( |
17:32.26 | Huhn | I would love to come, no offense taken |
17:32.30 | pdr | someone say beer? |
17:32.55 | pdr | ibot: pdr? |
17:32.56 | | you are, like, not trustworthy when it comes to beer |
17:33.00 | formi | pedro, vas vir o festival en kings X? |
17:33.07 | pdr | provavelmente nao |
17:33.31 | pdr | preciso trabalha amanha! |
17:33.42 | formi | vaia |
17:33.50 | pdr | nao posso |
17:33.53 | formi | eu podria axudarche |
17:34.12 | Huhn | hi Pete |
17:34.17 | pdr | hi huhn |
17:34.24 | formi | I could threaten you with violence if you don't leave early |
17:34.48 | pdr | you could |
17:34.57 | pdr | and i would laugh |
17:35.02 | formi | and I wouldn't be alone |
17:35.37 | formi | or I could shout, "this bloke said beer is like piss" and then you would have to run for you live |
17:35.54 | formi | s/live/life |
17:36.06 | pdr | you could |
17:36.07 | pdr | and i would laugh |
17:36.27 | dank_work | Only Australian beer is like that |
17:36.56 | formi | dank_work: you don't need to mention it, everyone knows |
17:36.59 | Huhn | *eg* |
17:37.06 | pdr | they say that in WA, they name the beer after what has pissed in the bottle |
17:37.19 | Huhn | well, at least Aussi beer is better than American beer.. |
17:37.26 | formi | also british beer is no good |
17:37.35 | pdr | they have emu lager, redback bitter (a wheat beer like hoegaarden), and swan lager |
17:37.49 | pdr | huhn: true |
17:38.02 | formi | emu? isn't that the name of a large animal? |
17:38.02 | pdr | there actually *is* good beer in au, but you need to search for it |
17:38.19 | pdr | formi: as i said they name the beer after what has pissed in |
17:38.20 | pdr | <PROTECTED> |
17:38.38 | dank_work | <PROTECTED> |
17:38.40 | dank_work | Whee! |
17:38.44 | pdr | yay! |
17:39.02 | nasrat | oh well I'm off - have fun ppl |
17:39.06 | pdr | pdr@muriel:~$ uptime |
17:39.06 | pdr | <PROTECTED> |
17:39.06 | dank_work | bye Paul |
17:39.12 | dank_work | Eek :) |
17:39.18 | dank_work | Is muriel your workstation, then? |
17:39.23 | formi | formi: up 26 years |
17:39.39 | pdr | it's a desktop that sits under the desk, so i guess it's a deskbottom |
17:39.52 | dank_work | :) |
17:40.01 | pdr | that means i've been living in that place for at least that long! |
17:40.24 | cup | jgwnhgkjsw |
17:40.31 | cup | night poeple |
17:40.33 | pdr | blumfrub cup |
17:40.38 | dank_work | night cup |
17:41.31 | dank_work | Hmm. David Damerell attending the beer thing.. |
17:41.40 | dank_work | murb: Okay - I'll catch you around, then |
17:41.58 | formi | dank_work: really?? |
17:42.03 | dank_work | No. |
17:42.10 | dank_work | Just reading your message, inviting himn |
17:42.11 | dank_work | *him |
17:44.02 | formi | im not inviting him |
17:44.28 | dank_work | <PROTECTED> |
17:44.36 | dank_work | Sounds like an invite to me :) |
17:44.39 | formi | last year we had a 2 people flamewar about the camra festival |
17:44.46 | dank_work | There was? |
17:45.00 | dank_work | Between who, and for what reason? |
17:45.09 | formi | i was saying it is a rip off, he was saying shit as usual |
17:45.40 | dank_work | You don't seem to like him... |
17:45.44 | murb | ibot lart my collegues in luxembourg for not having a clue about freeswan and breaking stuff. |
17:47.09 | formi | dank_work: im not alone, read his posts and judge by yourself |
17:47.53 | dank_work | yeah...the Harker brothers |
17:48.56 | formi | the harker brothers? |
17:49.07 | formi | got a url? |
17:49.08 | dank_work | Jon Harker doesn't like him either |
17:49.23 | dank_work | Actually, I'm not sure about Stephen |
17:51.29 | dank_work | Byee |
17:51.37 | formi | i think i might be confusing s.harker with somebody else |
17:51.52 | dank_work | Possibly. |
17:52.52 | formi | long bit antipodean bloke |
17:53.07 | formi | s/bit/big |
18:12.41 | pdr | tmi |
18:12.46 | dpash | hi |
18:12.51 | pdr | dpash: hi |
18:14.27 | dpash | argh I've killed my server |
18:14.37 | dpash | sitecopy: Error: Could not connect to server (www.davidpashley.com port 21). |
18:14.52 | murb | where is it located? |
18:15.05 | dpash | NY |
18:15.10 | pdr | damn |
18:15.32 | dpash | the website works |
18:15.37 | dpash | looks like ftp is dead |
18:15.43 | pdr | can you login to it? |
18:16.14 | dpash | parguild020 david% ftp davidpashley.com |
18:16.15 | dpash | ftp: connect: Connection refused |
18:16.38 | dpash | ftp is dead |
18:17.54 | pdr | ssh is still open |
18:18.14 | murb | well is anyone coming to the bearfestival this evening? |
18:18.32 | pdr | nup, although, don't worry i still remember that i owe you a beer |
18:18.38 | pdr | and formi owes you 2 |
18:19.06 | murb | pdr: I'd easily forget about you, formi was a bit too blatant. |
18:19.17 | murb | and quite rude. |
18:19.53 | pdr | ibot formi? |
18:19.57 | | [formi] a VRY WRD its-formi. |
18:20.55 | dpash | pdr: [18:16] < dpash> ftp is dead |
18:21.22 | dpash | ibot: pdr |
18:21.23 | | rumour has it, pdr is not trustworthy when it comes to beer |
18:21.27 | pdr | dpash: 18:17 <pdr> ssh is still open |
18:21.33 | pdr | ibot, i don't believe you |
18:21.34 | | pdr: i haven't a clue |
18:21.40 | pdr | yeah i know |
18:28.30 | formi_shower | ibot: its-formi? |
18:28.31 | | methinks its-formi is a VRY NRML GZ GUY, with NO sense of IRNY, using TP, FBSD, MDK, RR, OBSD, SOL, and drinking MATE. Also a VRY WRD formi. |
18:29.06 | formi_shower | somebody's e |
18:29.17 | formi_shower | somebody's been messing up with ibot |
18:35.46 | eye69 | BGFH? |
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18:37.48 | dpash | http://www.davidpashley.com/irc-notable.html |
18:37.51 | dpash | hi Jenson |
18:37.58 | Jenson | heya dpash |
18:39.03 | Jenson | nice of my browser not to display that properly |
18:40.09 | dpash | Jenson: get a proper browser? |
18:40.27 | formi | eye69: bloody girlfriend from hell |
18:40.32 | Jenson | ive got one :P |
18:40.38 | eye69 | Oh. |
18:40.42 | pdr | ibot: are you silly? |
18:40.43 | | are you silly is, like, a good question, the answer to which is "yes, i am" |
18:40.44 | formi | Jenson: really |
18:40.59 | dpash | pdr: that must have taken you a while? |
18:41.05 | pdr | dpash: indeed |
18:41.11 | pdr | ibot: dpash? |
18:41.12 | | i heard dpash is a big geek girl |
18:41.20 | Jenson | heh |
18:41.34 | dpash | ibot: no, dpash is looking for a geek girl |
18:41.35 | | okay, dpash |
18:41.48 | dpash | own up. who was it |
18:42.08 | dpash | who's been telling ibot libellous facts |
18:42.10 | Jenson | dpash: It works now, I think Konqueror was identifying as IE 5 |
18:42.17 | Jenson | ibot jenson |
18:42.18 | | i guess jenson is Slackware user (or pretends she has the slightest clue what she's doing), or going out with dankolb, or a twonkle |
18:42.23 | Jenson | lol |
18:42.30 | Jenson | ah |
18:42.32 | Jenson | edit that lol |
18:42.44 | dpash | can you edit one fact? |
18:43.18 | Jenson | dpash: SpudUAway can |
18:44.12 | dpash | ibot: jenson is a geek girl |
18:44.13 | | ...but jenson is already something else... |
18:44.22 | dpash | ibot: jenson is also a geek girl |
18:44.23 | | dpash: okay |
18:44.46 | dpash | ibot: jenson is not going out with dankolb |
18:44.48 | | ...but jenson is already something else... |
18:44.58 | Jenson | dpash: I'll get spud to edit it later lol |
18:45.00 | dpash | hmm I knew it couldn;t be that simple |
18:45.03 | Jenson | i dunno who added that |
18:45.07 | Jenson | coz i didnt |
18:45.08 | dpash | ibot: Jenson |
18:45.10 | | [jenson] Any number of other things |
18:45.17 | Jenson | ibot jenson |
18:45.20 | | methinks jenson is A little crazy |
18:48.18 | Jenson | see ya pdr |
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19:14.09 | Huhn | re (and hi dankolb) ;) |
19:14.58 | dankolb | hi |
19:16.13 | murb | the thought of being home already. |
19:16.47 | murb | s/)/(/ |
19:17.33 | Huhn | murb: I know the feeling |
19:19.15 | dankolb | In fact, mother is whinging about me having equipment in bedroom |
19:19.25 | dankolb | So I'm just going to go off and move things around :( |
19:19.32 | dankolb | (and then go to pub) |
19:24.09 | dpash | but not in mozilla |
19:24.31 | murb | for the same reason i don't read the sun or the register. |
19:24.53 | dpash | the reg has been particularly un-interesting recently |
19:25.04 | dpash | but you do get some titbits from it |
19:32.40 | formi_off_beer | murb: try the basement |
19:33.47 | murb | formi: what? |
19:33.59 | formi | check private |
19:38.58 | formi | murb: check private |
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19:46.57 | Huhn | enjoy formi |
19:47.00 | formi | see you |
19:47.14 | irvined | what a pain in the ass |
19:47.14 | Huhn | wb irvined |
19:47.16 | formi | thanks Huhn |
19:47.24 | irvined | my router kicked the bucket last night very slowly and painfully |
19:47.45 | irvined | i spent almost an hour trying to solve the problem but it seems the external modem has died after 4 years of faithful service |
19:48.27 | Huhn | aww :/ |
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19:48.49 | irvined | <PROTECTED> |
19:49.08 | Huhn | and you lost your uptime.. |
19:49.09 | irvined | i couldnt get a response from it then i remembered that it firewalled icmp pings |
19:50.45 | irvined | yes it had just over 300 days |
19:50.54 | Huhn | ouch :( |
19:51.09 | irvined | yes very ouch |
20:10.51 | Huhn | tell us |
20:11.06 | pdr | nothing to tell - lots of traffic |
20:11.34 | pdr | delayed trains |
20:11.43 | pdr | normal longon |
20:11.49 | pdr | s/g/d |
20:11.56 | Huhn | ah o0k |
20:12.06 | Huhn | mh, cannot type anymore |
20:12.09 | Huhn | too tired |
20:12.18 | pdr | how was the parteh? |
20:12.35 | Huhn | lang und schmutzig ;) (long and dirty :)) |
20:13.00 | pdr | oath! sounds like a cool party |
20:17.37 | Huhn | training tonight ;) |
20:17.58 | HuhnICE | I'll be back (hopefully) |
20:18.10 | Tarragon | In one piece? |
20:18.11 | murb | can someone tell me where the source for mount.cifs lies in samba cvs? |
20:18.33 | HuhnICE | Tarragon: we'll see, keep your fingers crossed, bye |
20:33.20 | highbury | no such url, and who for the sake of all sanity would connect at 9600baud\! |
20:47.12 | murb | does on a GSM link from the pub of course :) |
20:47.22 | murb | s/does/theoes/ |
20:47.28 | murb | asdfasdf spelling failure |
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21:08.19 | skugg | hi. |
21:15.29 | highbury | Folks, please review www.gllug.org.uk/irc.html so that we can improve content. [The layout is being separately worked on by dpash and myself] |
21:16.06 | *** mode/#gllug [+o highbury] by ChanServ |
21:16.52 | *** topic/#gllug by highbury -> GLLUG - Greater London Linux User Group, http://gllug.org.uk [Next Full Meeting - 12-April-2003 (est)], Provisional irc FAQ at http://www.gllug.org.uk/irc.html |
21:22.18 | skugg | highbury, do you want comments on punctuation issues etc? |
21:33.12 | highbury | yeah sure, but I especially want handy irc links |
21:42.32 | Clyphox | Hi |
21:47.32 | highbury | well skugg, I'm on tenterhooks ... |
21:51.06 | eye69 | highbury: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html :) |
21:52.10 | skugg | highbury, sorry. was cooking. didn't expect you so soon since you said you were away too :) |
21:53.15 | skugg | There's a few iffies in the first paragraph; lower-case letter at start of sentence, missing full stop etc. |
21:59.31 | Clyphox | gah.. |
21:59.40 | Clyphox | only a few hours left of being 20 :( |
22:02.58 | skugg | Clyphox, heh. |
22:03.06 | Clyphox | :( |
22:03.17 | Clyphox | I got a few quotes on a colo in aberdeen.. |
22:03.25 | Clyphox | amazingly bad money.. : |
22:03.27 | Clyphox | Co-Location Bandwidth Charges (please select): |
22:03.27 | Clyphox | 64Kbits (rates of transfer) £2200.00 |
22:03.27 | Clyphox | 128Kbits £3100.00 |
22:03.27 | Clyphox | 256Kbits £4700.00 |
22:03.27 | Clyphox | 512KBits £8100.00 |
22:03.28 | Clyphox | 1Mb £12000.00 |
22:03.30 | Clyphox | 2Mb £14000.00 |
22:03.47 | Clyphox | can you beleive any soul can afford that!?! |
22:04.17 | highbury | thanks eye69 |
22:04.51 | highbury | skugg: where? (a bit more specifically. |
22:05.45 | skugg | highbury, "even multi-protocol tools..." <-- "even" should be capitalised |
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22:06.18 | skugg | Missing full stop after "gaim" in same sentence, and the last sentence in the first paragraph just needs rewriting. |
22:07.32 | skugg | s,text only,text-only, in the beginning of the second paragraph maybe? (warning, I am really pedantic; take with a grain of salt ;) |
22:08.28 | skugg | Clyphox, that's a bit high, yeah. |
22:09.30 | Clyphox | I'm thinking I'm only paying 22.50 atm just for my plain dsl.. setup my own colo at home lol |
22:09.52 | Clyphox | and then if I can afford a backup elsewhere.. </tangent> |
22:17.53 | highbury | ok a few more changes made, more links added |
22:18.10 | Clyphox | where? where? may I look? |
22:18.18 | Clyphox | er down |
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22:28.42 | highbury | Clyphox: check the link on the topic |
22:29.53 | Clyphox | hbbiam then |
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22:33.02 | skugg | i've got the older equivalent, Q65 |
22:45.01 | murb | good evening? |
22:48.18 | eye69 | I've got a guy asking where to find Slack9 ISO's. |
22:51.39 | eye69 | Nevermind. |
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22:57.27 | dankolb | evenin' |
22:57.42 | eye69 | Hi dan. |
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23:25.44 | dummy | hey |
23:25.47 | dummy | anyone around? |
23:28.00 | eye69 | On and off. |
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23:34.57 | marko85_uk | hey everyone |
23:34.58 | marko85_uk | :) |
23:37.49 | marko85_uk | anyone in a helping mood? |
23:38.44 | eye69 | Ask a question. |
23:39.19 | marko85_uk | well i downloaded mozilla today |
23:39.26 | marko85_uk | and i want to update my current version |
23:39.34 | marko85_uk | so i got the file in my home folder |
23:39.59 | eye69 | Ok. |
23:39.59 | marko85_uk | i read the readme file |
23:40.08 | marko85_uk | and i dont seem to be able to really understand what to do |
23:40.13 | eye69 | What's the filename? |
23:40.45 | marko85_uk | do i first of all unzip the file usind tar command? |
23:41.17 | eye69 | I seem to remember that he's using Red Hat. |
23:41.39 | marko85_uk | i am |
23:41.43 | eye69 | I would recommend using official or if they're not available unofficial RPM's. |
23:41.47 | dankolb | rpm -Uvh mozilla*.rpm ? |
23:41.58 | eye69 | Yes, like dankolb says. |
23:42.27 | marko85_uk | i got it in a file called |
23:42.30 | marko85_uk | .tar.gz |
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23:42.46 | eye69 | You can remove that file and get an rpm instead. |
23:42.58 | eye69 | You don't want to stuff up your packaging system with .tar.gz |
23:43.40 | marko85_uk | eye69 it kind of took me 2 hours to download it |
23:43.41 | marko85_uk | :) |
23:43.51 | marko85_uk | but if you have a different suggestion |
23:43.53 | eye69 | Well, you kinda were wrong in doing that. |
23:43.55 | marko85_uk | tell me and i will do it |
23:44.08 | eye69 | You're running RH8? |
23:44.11 | dankolb | http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozilla1.3/Red_Hat_8x_RPMS/xft/i386/ |
23:44.18 | marko85_uk | yes and it has an automatic update |
23:44.27 | marko85_uk | and i do have in a list that i can download the new mozilla |
23:44.43 | eye69 | So, what's the problem? :) |
23:44.53 | marko85_uk | i guess there isnt one |
23:45.13 | denivri | evening all |
23:45.22 | eye69 | That's a whole lot of discussion to say that you don't have a problem. :) |
23:45.26 | dankolb | eye69: Problem is people not using the correct tools for the job |
23:45.27 | marko85_uk | hi denivri never seen you before |
23:45.28 | dankolb | hi denivri |
23:45.28 | marko85_uk | :) |
23:45.40 | dankolb | marko85_uk: I'm sure you have. Just with a different name |
23:45.45 | denivri | marko85_uk: you've seen me by another name, irvined, or davilion |
23:46.11 | denivri | hmm somebody has a borked mail server methinks |
23:46.12 | marko85_uk | i seen davilion |
23:46.23 | denivri | ive got 1902 messages from the same person |
23:46.32 | denivri | i think it may be bouncing between procmails or somethingh |
23:46.34 | marko85_uk | mail boomber |
23:46.35 | marko85_uk | :) |
23:46.36 | denivri | should be fun come tommorow |
23:47.49 | dankolb | heh |
23:48.38 | dankolb | 'night all |
23:48.39 | denivri | im hping itsnot a proiblem from within our mail system so i can go round and personally snap his fingers |
23:48.52 | denivri | but i suspect we've been grahamed |
23:48.54 | denivri | nn |
23:48.59 | marko85_uk | what is the command for shuting my computer down in about 3 hours? |
23:49.26 | dankolb | shutdown +3h, or something |
23:49.32 | dankolb | man shutdown is your friend |
23:50.04 | marko85_uk | i think i need -p there dont i |
23:50.33 | cupis | marko85_uk: what do you think -p does? |
23:50.42 | marko85_uk | turns the power off |
23:50.46 | denivri | shutdown -h <secondsfromnow(iirc)> [message] |
23:51.13 | cupis | pdr: AOL |
23:51.14 | marko85_uk | seconds from now on |
23:51.31 | marko85_uk | so i just need to calculate that |
23:52.00 | denivri | 3(60^2) |
23:52.13 | cupis | marko85_uk: The time argument can have different formats. First, it can be an |
23:52.13 | cupis | <PROTECTED> |
23:52.13 | cupis | <PROTECTED> |
23:52.13 | cupis | <PROTECTED> |
23:52.13 | cupis | <PROTECTED> |
23:52.23 | cupis | <PROTECTED> |
23:52.49 | cupis | thus: /sbin/shutdown -h +180 will work |
23:53.05 | marko85_uk | cupis could you like just tell me the command and ill read the rute soon and study bit more |
23:53.17 | marko85_uk | thanks mate |
23:53.54 | marko85_uk | i heard a beep |
23:54.01 | marko85_uk | is that what is ment to happen |
23:54.01 | marko85_uk | :) |
23:54.09 | cupis | marko85_uk: yes |
23:54.25 | marko85_uk | is there a command that can tell me how much time is left |
23:54.46 | denivri | date :) |
23:55.16 | denivri | date |awk :) |
23:56.22 | cupis | marko85_uk: no |
23:56.51 | marko85_uk | ok |
23:57.45 | marko85_uk | my automatic update doesnt seem to want to launch |
23:57.58 | marko85_uk | progress dialog just freezes |
23:58.18 | marko85_uk | its cool now |
23:58.18 | marko85_uk | :) |