| 00:04.41 | formi | good night guys, (adhoc, in your case is up to you)... |
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| 01:22.50 | resuDaed_ | anyone still up? |
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| 01:25.12 | highbury | I was |
| 02:12.38 | highbury | Main web page updated, with details of next meeting |
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| 03:01.55 | resuDaed_ | anyone still up? |
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| 04:50.00 | pdr | yes. :-) |
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| 07:36.18 | *** topic/#gllug is GLLUG - Greater London Linux User Group, http://gllug.org.uk [Next Full Meeting - 12-April-2003 (est)], Provisional irc FAQ at http://www.gllug.org.uk/irc.html |
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| 08:05.06 | pdr | - hi Tarragon |
| 08:56.40 | dank_work | Morning |
| 09:00.38 | highbury | morning |
| 09:02.29 | highbury | isn't always the same, I stay up late hoping to be able to have a nice lie in, and the council decide to start gardening outside my window, with trucks reversing and sweeping, people with those silly blowers making lots of noise :-( |
| 09:04.45 | dank_work | Aww |
| 09:23.28 | Clyphox | morning |
| 09:23.41 | dank_work | Morning Clyphox |
| 09:23.49 | Clyphox | Hiya dan |
| 09:23.53 | dank_work | How goes? |
| 09:24.17 | Clyphox | tired.. hand is better though.. |
| 09:24.34 | Clyphox | Orange have actually barred my calls! |
| 09:24.49 | Clyphox | How wonderfull if Nikki notices she can't call/txt me now :-) |
| 09:24.58 | dank_work | Heh. Why have they done that? |
| 09:25.00 | Clyphox | Then she might get a grip on reality.. |
| 09:25.03 | Clyphox | Bills |
| 09:25.08 | dank_work | Not paying them? |
| 09:25.19 | Clyphox | Not in full :( |
| 09:25.26 | Clyphox | about 200 short for the last one iirc |
| 09:25.28 | dank_work | :-( |
| 09:25.36 | dank_work | Surely you can still receive calls? |
| 09:25.42 | Clyphox | I don't care.. its not like I won't pay it... |
| 09:25.46 | Clyphox | I tihnk so.. |
| 09:26.06 | Clyphox | damn....! |
| 09:26.15 | Clyphox | still can't ping pierceglynn.co.uk !?! |
| 09:27.24 | dank_work | ARG. |
| 09:27.32 | dank_work | Why doesn't it work!? |
| 09:28.22 | Clyphox | I think it might maybe be wrong on the real core internic registrars maybe? |
| 09:28.31 | dank_work | Maybe... |
| 09:28.42 | Clyphox | I'm going to write an email now :-( |
| 09:28.44 | dank_work | Because there's other domains that are set up that work |
| 09:28.46 | dpash | hi all |
| 09:28.50 | dank_work | morning dpash |
| 09:29.02 | dpash | going to chelmsford |
| 09:29.04 | dpash | w00t |
| 09:29.07 | dpash | not |
| 09:29.09 | dank_work | Fun. |
| 09:29.12 | dank_work | What're you up to there? |
| 09:29.15 | dpash | working |
| 09:29.21 | dank_work | Loverly |
| 09:31.22 | dpash | not really |
| 09:31.39 | Clyphox | :( |
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| 09:36.32 | zachary | good morning |
| 09:36.40 | dank_work | hi |
| 09:37.14 | Tarragon | Hi zachary |
| 09:40.46 | Clyphox | hand is sore again :-(( |
| 09:41.23 | zachary | Tarragon: Did you solve your problem with shorewall? |
| 09:46.14 | Tarragon | Sort of. I can open up areas but I am not convinced when I do that I am secure. |
| 09:49.43 | SpudULike | There is lots I don't understand about security like this! If I leave a port open, but there is nothing listening to that port, can it be exploited? |
| 09:49.49 | dank_work | No |
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| 09:49.58 | dank_work | Because then the port isn't really open as such |
| 09:49.59 | cup | morning |
| 09:50.06 | dank_work | hi cup |
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| 09:54.16 | dank_work | hi nasrat |
| 09:54.22 | Clyphox | I'm selling my dual P3 again.. hehe |
| 09:54.49 | Clyphox | Hi nasrat |
| 09:55.26 | nasrat | hi all |
| 10:07.32 | highbury | SpudULike: are you running portmapper or inetd? |
| 10:08.03 | SpudULike | inetd yes. |
| 10:08.13 | highbury | SpudULike: I don't think dank_work is strictly correct, unless both of thos are disabled |
| 10:08.54 | highbury | what services are not commented out in your inted.conf, e.g. "grep '^# ' /etc/inetd.conf' |
| 10:09.01 | SpudULike | inetd might be 'encouraged' to put something on an open port? |
| 10:09.53 | highbury | generally most home users do NOT need inetd running |
| 10:10.26 | highbury | inetd listend for incoming connections, and starts up programs automatically |
| 10:10.45 | highbury | SpudULike: what does that command return? |
| 10:12.14 | Clyphox | Anyone want a Dual Piii ? its 3 months old now.. |
| 10:12.25 | Clyphox | Plays Quake3 a treat! |
| 10:13.03 | highbury | how much? |
| 10:14.15 | Clyphox | Not sure.. hehe.. the mobo and CPU's alone cost me over £00 |
| 10:14.16 | SpudULike | highbury: I don't think I have anything configured in inetd.conf, though I am unsure about the command line you gave me - I've just been returned a '>' prompt! |
| 10:14.22 | Clyphox | And I get retail prices,, |
| 10:14.30 | Clyphox | Want a hdd? scsi? creative LIVE? |
| 10:14.35 | Clyphox | DVD-ram chucked in for free :-) |
| 10:14.38 | Clyphox | (I can't get it too work) |
| 10:14.50 | highbury | grep '^# ' /etc/inetd.conf |
| 10:14.58 | Clyphox | SpudULike, what are you trying to run? |
| 10:15.23 | Clyphox | did you restart inetd? (killall -HUP inetd) |
| 10:15.55 | highbury | Clyphox: he shouldn't be running inetd at all! |
| 10:16.20 | Clyphox | ohh? |
| 10:17.05 | SpudULike | I might not be running it, I assumed that I was. I thought it was needed to be honest. |
| 10:17.23 | Clyphox | er £300 |
| 10:17.32 | SpudULike | colin@mine:~> ps -aux | grep inetd |
| 10:17.32 | SpudULike | colin 8014 0.0 0.2 1620 572 pts/3 R 10:17 0:00 grep inetd |
| 10:17.50 | Clyphox | What are you trying to run anyway? |
| 10:17.52 | SpudULike | That does mean I'm not running inetd then, doesn't it? |
| 10:18.00 | Clyphox | looks like it.. |
| 10:18.01 | Tarragon | Yes |
| 10:18.19 | highbury | SpudULike: what does the command I said run? |
| 10:18.24 | highbury | s/run/print/ |
| 10:18.25 | Tarragon | ps -aux | grep [i]netd |
| 10:18.32 | SpudULike | How does my machine know which ports are ocnnected to which services then. I thought that's what inetd did! |
| 10:19.01 | highbury | /etc/services |
| 10:19.15 | Clyphox | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:19.46 | highbury | Clyphox: true, some apps create random ports |
| 10:20.14 | highbury | ftp uses one standard port and one random'ish one |
| 10:20.23 | SpudULike | Oh, I (again) thought that inetd was the 'new' way of doing what /etc/services did. I got all this wrong info while trying to play with font servers a while back. |
| 10:20.27 | dank_work | FTP is evil through firewalls |
| 10:21.12 | SpudULike | BUT - colin@mine:~> ps -aux | grep port |
| 10:21.12 | SpudULike | bin 1187 0.0 0.0 1296 4 ? S Mar24 0:00 /sbin/portmap |
| 10:21.12 | SpudULike | colin 8016 0.0 0.2 1620 572 pts/3 R 10:20 0:00 grep port |
| 10:21.13 | Clyphox | inetd is just a launching platform for services.. it watches ports its told too (using data from /etc/services too) then launches the app when the port is accessed |
| 10:22.10 | highbury | some distro's replace inetd with xinetd |
| 10:22.51 | highbury | inetd is usually configured to use tcp-wrappers, which is sort-of built into xinetd |
| 10:22.58 | Clyphox | I'm not sure what the differences are.. I just run my programs as daemons to prevent confusion myself.. |
| 10:23.34 | Clyphox | tcp-wrappers is less usefull than a ssh tunnel :-) |
| 10:23.47 | highbury | usually ony sshd is run outside of inetd |
| 10:24.22 | highbury | Clyphox: I'd still run tcp-wrappers, for logging purposes |
| 10:24.48 | highbury | although its not useful for services like NFS |
| 10:26.03 | Clyphox | dunno.. wasted pid for me cause I only open sshd to the internet anyway.. |
| 10:27.19 | Clyphox | bidding is on £10 for my Dualy in #aberlug.. can I have a £15 ? |
| 10:28.15 | highbury | Clyphox: sounds like you may not understand what tcp-wrappers do. it doesn't generate an extra process, it just acts as a handler/dispatcher/logger for process invocation and closure |
| 10:28.19 | dank_work | Must...resist....hardware |
| 10:28.25 | highbury | Clyphox: what's the spec? |
| 10:28.42 | Clyphox | lol |
| 10:28.54 | Clyphox | Two Coppermines 1ghz each |
| 10:29.13 | Clyphox | MSI mobo I think.. |
| 10:29.22 | Clyphox | :( |
| 10:29.34 | Clyphox | Ours in the office is now 5 years old |
| 10:29.38 | Clyphox | and fine.. |
| 10:29.40 | dank_work | highbury: Typical new hardware.. |
| 10:29.48 | Clyphox | (just one dead horizonal line) |
| 10:30.30 | Clyphox | 4 ide ports, ddr/sdram... uhm... the useuall |
| 10:31.56 | highbury | disk-drive? cd/dvd/cdrw ? |
| 10:32.26 | Clyphox | DVD-ram chucked in for free :-) |
| 10:32.35 | Clyphox | Can't get it going in all honesty.. hehe |
| 10:33.20 | Clyphox | if you want I can give you cdrom drives.. can get retail prices on anything else you want with it.. |
| 10:33.30 | Clyphox | dvd etc I mean. |
| 10:34.51 | Clyphox | If I can't sell it it'll just become my remote X server when I move. |
| 10:35.06 | Clyphox | No more Urbanterror for me :( |
| 10:36.17 | dank_work | Yeah. Spend quality time with SO |
| 10:37.20 | Clyphox | SO? |
| 10:37.23 | Clyphox | ohh yeah |
| 10:37.28 | Clyphox | Significant Other.. |
| 10:37.31 | dank_work | Yeah |
| 10:37.46 | Clyphox | I got a bid for £20 on #geeks! |
| 10:37.56 | Clyphox | do I have any bigger bid? |
| 10:38.04 | dank_work | £21 |
| 10:38.26 | Clyphox | Sold! |
| 10:38.30 | Clyphox | er.. |
| 10:38.39 | Clyphox | no sorry... cancel that |
| 10:38.39 | SpudULike | I'll witness! |
| 10:38.47 | SpudULike | ;-) |
| 10:39.05 | highbury | £30 |
| 10:39.06 | SpudULike | dank_work: I'll give you £21.50 |
| 10:39.27 | SpudULike | Lower! |
| 10:39.27 | dank_work | Begs me for what? The £21? |
| 10:39.48 | Clyphox | Don't take it away from me for jsut £21 :( |
| 10:40.18 | dank_work | Well...I do have to get the train fare |
| 10:40.43 | Clyphox | my stomache is rumbling,.. in search of food.. |
| 10:40.46 | dank_work | And hopefully get back to the station in time :-P |
| 10:41.00 | highbury | Clyphox: what price can you get Samsung SM-348 cd-rewriter? |
| 10:41.28 | SpudULike | ibot: Who is clyphox? |
| 10:41.29 | | it has been said that clyphox is a man of his word. |
| 10:41.29 | Clyphox | highbury, my supplier has a really crap range.. I'll have a look anyway.. |
| 10:47.51 | dank_work | Tarragon is broken. PFI. |
| 10:48.07 | Tarragon | Arrgh |
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| 10:55.48 | formi | hello |
| 10:55.49 | pdr | hey formi |
| 10:56.55 | formi | due to one of my usual cockups |
| 10:57.01 | pdr | lebrei vostede falando que nao vai usar knoppix |
| 10:57.23 | formi | eu dixen que uso o mellor mais o resto |
| 10:57.44 | formi | i use the best i use the rest, Sex Pistols |
| 10:58.02 | formi | mais knoppix non e debian |
| 10:58.11 | pdr | e mesmo |
| 10:58.46 | formi | xa lle gostaria os debianers que fora |
| 10:58.47 | formi | :-P |
| 10:58.53 | formi | non |
| 10:59.09 | formi | e como decir que red hat e mandrake son o mesmo |
| 10:59.50 | formi | o que cambia e a maneira de ponhelo sistema xunto, que usen as mesmas pezas e diferente |
| 10:59.51 | pdr | concordo, mais as installadores sao differente, e so. |
| 11:00.06 | formi | eye69! |
| 11:01.01 | formi | my problem is that after changing /etc/tty in freebsd i get no login, console or network |
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| 11:01.37 | formi | so booted knoppix mounted the partition, edited the file, and when i went to save it, it tells me i can't save |
| 11:01.51 | formi | it is mounted rw and i used sudo |
| 11:02.14 | formi | so im trying to guess what is going on |
| 11:02.40 | Clyphox | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:02.41 | pdr | you may have to force a write if the file is read-only |
| 11:02.44 | Clyphox | Hi pdr |
| 11:02.44 | pdr | whicat editor? |
| 11:02.52 | pdr | Clyphox: hi |
| 11:03.05 | pdr | ^whicat^which |
| 11:03.16 | Clyphox | hehe |
| 11:03.34 | formi | sudo vi /mnt/hda5/etc/tty |
| 11:03.49 | pdr | formi: use w! to force a write |
| 11:04.00 | Tarragon | What type of partition? NTFS is read only |
| 11:04.21 | formi | pdr i did |
| 11:04.29 | pdr | Tarragon: it's a freebsd install so probably something wierd ;-P |
| 11:04.35 | formi | tarragon ufs on freebsd we are talking about |
| 11:04.40 | Clyphox | ahh |
| 11:04.55 | Clyphox | isn't rw experimental still? |
| 11:05.11 | nasrat | yeah ufs is read only in stock kernel |
| 11:05.30 | Clyphox | bsd4.2 I assume? |
| 11:06.43 | formi | bsd4.4 as recomended by knoppix |
| 11:09.13 | Clyphox | I wonder why OBSD uses 4.2...hmm |
| 11:10.53 | formi | Clyphox: they are more conservative, in the security context meaning |
| 11:10.55 | Clyphox | Maybe the customer can sue them for email downtime of over 2 weeks |
| 11:11.34 | Clyphox | formi, would make sense.. as to how the 4.4 and 4.2 fs differ I know not.. |
| 11:12.46 | formi | do you know if i can change to fluxbox on the fly? it used to work, but i can't find the menu for it |
| 11:13.04 | Clyphox | from? |
| 11:13.10 | Clyphox | what menu? |
| 11:13.28 | formi | knoppix main menu |
| 11:14.09 | Clyphox | dunno what that is. Can change from most wmanagers though just by editing the xinitrc and it "should" be ok.. |
| 11:14.39 | formi | on the fly, meaning without restarting X |
| 11:14.48 | Clyphox | What are you running? |
| 11:15.01 | Clyphox | I don't know what "knoppix main menu" is.. |
| 11:15.16 | formi | kde menu |
| 11:15.25 | Clyphox | ahh |
| 11:16.15 | Clyphox | well if you edit the xinitrc that was used for the current session.. if kde is started using exec then no. |
| 11:16.54 | highbury | send HUP to window manager |
| 11:17.02 | formi | my issue is kde is using to much memory, i wish to start fluxbox without having to close the apps i have running |
| 11:17.32 | formi | i tried to start gnome but it wouldn't |
| 11:17.40 | Clyphox | highbury, won't that just restart kde? |
| 11:17.58 | highbury | KDE is not the window manager |
| 11:18.19 | Clyphox | highbury, won't that just restart the kde window manager? |
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| 11:19.30 | highbury | with Knoppix I think your stuck, since kde was started at boot-up via kdm, but check the K Menu, you might be lucky |
| 11:19.55 | highbury | normally you have to chose window/desktop manager via boot command with Knoppix |
| 11:20.19 | formi | i remenber this was possible, i did it when in prague, but this knoppix version is much newer |
| 11:21.21 | formi | highbury: im considering making a serious proposal to knopper about gz translations |
| 11:26.19 | dank_work | It's so hot in here :( |
| 11:26.33 | Clyphox | likewise |
| 11:26.44 | highbury | formi: cool. I'm probably going to have a chat to him soon (next couple of weeks) about whether he'd be willing to come over to give a talk. |
| 11:26.47 | Clyphox | havn't had a coffee all day |
| 11:26.55 | dank_work | Neither have I. But I've had coke |
| 11:27.32 | Clyphox | there is a great UrbanTerror map called Causeway |
| 11:28.12 | formi | highbury: try running around the place |
| 11:28.57 | formi | highbury: ill approach him one i finnish fixing a few things |
| 11:32.31 | Clyphox | ping |
| 11:33.03 | Tarragon | pong |
| 11:33.08 | Clyphox | :) |
| 11:33.10 | Clyphox | I alive |
| 11:33.19 | Tarragon | I feel dead |
| 11:33.49 | formi | Tarragon: it could be worse, you could be dead and feel alive |
| 11:33.52 | highbury | formi: well I made initial contact, but sure ..... |
| 11:35.58 | Clyphox | I'm gonna try install netbsd on a 386 |
| 11:36.01 | Clyphox | I'm bored |
| 11:36.36 | dank_work | Clyphox: Install it on a VAX. More fun :) |
| 11:36.57 | Clyphox | got a vax? |
| 11:37.51 | dank_work | Two of 'em |
| 11:38.01 | highbury | we have a problem with dust clogging our Vax.... |
| 11:38.12 | Clyphox | awe.. |
| 11:38.20 | Clyphox | I'll take em off your hands then.. |
| 11:38.23 | highbury | .. but then we went and emptied the dust bag |
| 11:38.33 | highbury | :-P |
| 11:38.39 | Clyphox | dank_work, basterd |
| 11:38.42 | dank_work | Heh :) |
| 11:38.43 | Clyphox | er ard.. |
| 11:40.23 | nasrat | BeBox? |
| 11:40.44 | dank_work | Nope. |
| 11:40.50 | dank_work | Do you have one I can have? |
| 11:40.59 | dank_work | Swap for lots of machines that could run ELKS... |
| 11:41.43 | nasrat | nah sadly I don't |
| 11:42.06 | nasrat | I only have a couple of Sparcs, some macs and old laptops. |
| 11:42.42 | dank_work | nasrat: Don't suppose you might have a power supply for an Apple Powerbook 520c ? |
| 11:46.15 | nasrat | umm don't think so |
| 11:46.58 | Clyphox | highbury, I have a dual P3.. what is up for offer? |
| 11:47.51 | dank_work | Bwah. |
| 11:48.08 | dank_work | What about a PSU for an Acer Travelnote 730TX? |
| 11:48.15 | Clyphox | I got a cool ICL CS386s/25 |
| 11:49.45 | Clyphox | I want! |
| 11:49.47 | formi | or exchage |
| 11:50.18 | Clyphox | I can only give you a Cyrix 300 on a TX-pro mobo |
| 11:50.36 | Clyphox | or a Dualy PIII hehe.. but I would want some money too |
| 11:50.36 | formi | no x86, im trying to get rid of 2 of them |
| 11:50.43 | Clyphox | likewise |
| 11:51.02 | Clyphox | Well how much are you asking? do you include mo/keyb/mouse? |
| 11:51.11 | Clyphox | mo/monitor |
| 11:51.30 | formi | do you have any medium/large hd and/or cdrw? |
| 11:51.42 | Clyphox | yup.. |
| 11:52.02 | Clyphox | 40g hdd (4500) and yamaha SCSI cdrw |
| 11:52.06 | formi | ss5 is just a box, with a power cord, a db9-db25 and a sol 7 box set |
| 11:52.27 | Clyphox | will need to get the rest somewhere else :9 |
| 11:52.31 | Clyphox | er.. :( |
| 11:52.48 | formi | i do have a external scsi disk with no cable, probably 500-1gb |
| 11:53.04 | formi | have to test it though |
| 11:53.15 | formi | and a scsi zip 100, no cable also |
| 11:54.18 | Clyphox | got scsi zip and odn't need external hdd :( |
| 11:56.23 | formi | im trying to find out the size of the external scsi |
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| 11:56.36 | dank_work | hi SpyPigeon |
| 11:56.51 | SpyPigeon | hi dank - first to the keyboard, as always ;) |
| 11:57.05 | dank_work | Yup :) |
| 11:57.22 | SpyPigeon | you got nothin' better to do either ;) |
| 11:58.19 | dank_work | I'm working hard :) |
| 11:58.49 | SpyPigeon | anything good? |
| 12:00.09 | dank_work | Nah. Documentariserisation |
| 12:01.01 | dank_work | I'd make negative, because I don't like DocBook - much prefer LaTeX |
| 12:01.18 | dank_work | And Causeway Collaboration is a bit, well <snipped for logging porpoises> |
| 12:01.26 | SpyPigeon | Can't you work Latex & convert? |
| 12:01.35 | dank_work | Not easily |
| 12:01.50 | dank_work | I just write the Docbook |
| 12:02.03 | dank_work | Good ol' emacs and its SGML mode |
| 12:02.33 | dank_work | It's not as bad as many people make it out to be, really :) |
| 12:02.39 | dank_work | (and, yes, I do use vi(m) too) |
| 12:02.49 | SpyPigeon | good man! |
| 12:06.48 | Clyphox | is the next meeting the 12th or 16th? |
| 12:07.18 | dank_work | 12th |
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| 12:09.33 | dank_work | wb |
| 12:09.34 | SpyPigeon | doh! |
| 12:09.37 | SpyPigeon | ty |
| 12:09.58 | SpyPigeon | Was demonstrating how to build a network patch cable to one of juniors, |
| 12:10.05 | SpyPigeon | pulled out the nearest cable to me |
| 12:10.09 | SpyPigeon | and got the wrong one :( |
| 12:10.14 | dank_work | Heh |
| 12:10.22 | dank_work | !point-and-laugh SpyPigeon |
| 12:11.02 | SpyPigeon | hey, I don't care, I admit to muppet-y behaviour |
| 12:11.06 | dank_work | :) |
| 12:11.40 | Tarragon | The difference is Kermit or Gonzo |
| 12:11.52 | SpyPigeon | I'm closer to Miss Piggy.... |
| 12:11.55 | *** join/#gllug zimm (dr215@gm-dr204-a12.gre.ac.uk) |
| 12:12.31 | Tarragon | Not the Professor? |
| 12:14.07 | SpyPigeon | Nah |
| 12:14.38 | SpyPigeon | There's a touch of arrogance to some of rants that put me closer in the piggy category |
| 12:17.21 | *** mode/#gllug [+o highbury] by ChanServ |
| 12:17.57 | *** topic/#gllug by highbury -> GLLUG - Greater London Linux User Group, http://gllug.org.uk [Next Full Meeting - 12-April-2003], Check out provisional irc FAQ at http://www.gllug.org.uk/irc.html |
| 12:20.53 | nasrat | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:20.58 | nasrat | doh |
| 12:21.09 | zimm | lol |
| 12:23.24 | Clyphox | hehe |
| 12:25.05 | Clyphox | bastard |
| 12:25.31 | dank_work | And 3 Sun machines |
| 12:26.22 | dank_work | Jealous? |
| 12:26.59 | Clyphox | seathing |
| 12:27.25 | Tarragon | Sea Thing? what like starfish? |
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| 12:58.28 | jenson | heya guys |
| 12:58.29 | zimm | hey jenson |
| 12:58.34 | jenson | hey zimm |
| 12:58.38 | zimm | :) |
| 12:59.04 | Clyphox | re re |
| 12:59.12 | jenson | hey Clyphox |
| 12:59.35 | Clyphox | Hiya jenson |
| 13:00.14 | dank_work | WHAT? |
| 13:00.20 | Clyphox | soz.. just feels nice :P |
| 13:00.23 | dank_work | BAH |
| 13:00.24 | jenson | lol Clyphox don't kick Dan |
| 13:00.28 | zimm | lol |
| 13:00.33 | jenson | dank_work: Kick him back |
| 13:03.23 | jenson | heya highbury |
| 13:12.04 | eye69 | ARGH! |
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| 13:12.27 | eye69 | Just got my matress delivered...was under the impression that it would be longer than 190cm |
| 13:12.44 | Clyphox | eek.. |
| 13:12.47 | eye69 | Damn imperial system |
| 13:13.01 | Clyphox | the thought of you on a matress that is less than 190cm is scary! |
| 13:13.26 | Clyphox | I agre imperial is fscked |
| 13:13.37 | Clyphox | (in the nicest of ways) |
| 13:15.37 | eye69 | For f's sake, when I was at the store to order it I lay down on a bed (that must've been 190 too) and told them that it would not be enough. They told me to go to kingsize and so I did. |
| 13:16.14 | Clyphox | ... |
| 13:16.23 | Tarragon | 2m mattresses are available. |
| 13:16.49 | formi_BRB | im off to boot the laptop |
| 13:16.54 | formi_BRB | see you later |
| 13:16.57 | dank_work | have fun |
| 13:17.21 | jenson | Time for lucnh |
| 13:17.24 | jenson | Seeya later guys |
| 13:18.16 | Clyphox | cya |
| 13:18.24 | jenson | cya Clyphox |
| 13:18.26 | eye69 | You have: 5 feet |
| 13:18.26 | eye69 | You want: cm |
| 13:18.26 | eye69 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.34 | eye69 | Uhm... |
| 13:18.37 | *** part/#gllug jenson (~jenson@64.246.28.105) |
| 13:18.53 | eye69 | http://www.silentnight.co.uk/products/mattresses/miracoilmatsspecss.asp |
| 13:19.05 | Tarragon | 180*200 |
| 13:19.10 | eye69 | Click on the three sizes on that page. Does the length differ? |
| 13:20.00 | Tarragon | No but that is the miracoil product. |
| 13:22.35 | nasrat | lol |
| 13:22.56 | nasrat | not only that he seems to be in charge of ppl too |
| 13:23.06 | dank_work | :) |
| 13:24.16 | Tarragon | eye69: http://www.sealyuk.co.uk/frames.htm then product range then specifications. All made in same factory as the miracoil ones. Biggest is 180x200cm |
| 13:26.45 | eye69 | Anybody want a good laugh? This document was handed to me by some schmuck who has been hired at a security company: http://upcore.net/Building_a_firewall_Linux.rtf |
| 13:27.14 | eye69 | He wanted me to have it because he thought it might be useful. Everybody in the channel dissed him. :) |
| 13:28.30 | Clyphox | heh |
| 13:28.35 | Clyphox | You have changed name servers. You are currently pointing to eco.li IP |
| 13:28.35 | Clyphox | 64.246.28.105 |
| 13:28.35 | Clyphox | We take no responsibility for what happens to your mail or web if we are |
| 13:28.35 | Clyphox | not the hosting server |
| 13:28.43 | Clyphox | oops.. sry |
| 13:30.18 | Clyphox | I want a job at that company damnit... |
| 13:30.46 | dank_work | Excuses, excuses... |
| 13:33.26 | qwertz | eye69: what security company would that be ? i've been looking for security work here in london for ages now |
| 13:33.47 | eye69 | I don't know if it's in London. |
| 13:34.08 | eye69 | www.mis-cds.com |
| 13:34.40 | eye69 | 00:32:29 < |prox|> eye69: I sent you the documentation on how I used to build my Linux custom firewalls |
| 13:34.52 | eye69 | 00:37:43 < |prox|> I wrote it to be idiot proof, it was very easy for the new guy that started, easy to understand |
| 13:36.15 | zimm | even I dont need that kind of advice ,, and im a cretin newbie :) |
| 13:37.34 | eye69 | Who has a full installation of RH on a firewall? I laughed when I saw that doc. |
| 13:37.38 | highbury | eye69: all IKEA mattresses are longer than standard British measurements, in British system normally they're 6' 3" unless you get King-size wider than 4' 6" in which case they're usually 6' 6" |
| 13:37.42 | Tarragon | ibot zimm |
| 13:37.42 | | somebody said zimm was the heartbroken burnt out shell of post modern potential, or a cretin newbie :) |
| 13:37.47 | highbury | IIRC |
| 13:37.48 | Tarragon | :-) |
| 13:38.03 | highbury | ibot highbury |
| 13:38.04 | | rumour has it, highbury is Steve, home page http://www.highbury.demon.co.uk, currently available for contract or permanent position, as a Unix Administrator and Security Consultant |
| 13:38.08 | eye69 | highbury: That's because they're made for tall hansom Swedes. :) |
| 13:38.18 | qwertz | eye: thats just disturbing, ppl like that with work. |
| 13:38.28 | highbury | ahh, well that's why you got a shorter one :-P |
| 13:38.37 | eye69 | I just measured it. It's actually 200cm. |
| 13:38.45 | Clyphox | ack |
| 13:38.54 | Tarragon | So it is still too small |
| 13:39.20 | eye69 | I'm guessing that's the longest they had. |
| 13:39.47 | highbury | 200cm is IKEA size too |
| 13:40.10 | eye69 | My last one wasn't Ikea though. I think it was 210. |
| 13:40.15 | highbury | if you go to one of the Pine Bed Shops, they usually can make a mattress to whatever size you want |
| 13:40.49 | highbury | Livitnoff & Fawcett on Grays Inn Road near Kings Cross |
| 13:40.56 | eye69 | Yeah, for a price. |
| 13:41.23 | eye69 | Then I need a bedstead of that size too. |
| 13:41.34 | eye69 | I'll just have to suck it up. |
| 13:43.47 | dank_work | Ahh. Coffee has arrived |
| 13:43.54 | highbury | When I last bought a Bed from them, they were quite competitively priced |
| 13:44.35 | highbury | just remember Mattresses only really last 10 years |
| 13:44.47 | eye69 | Considering your stature I don't think you ordered a custom size though? |
| 13:45.56 | highbury | nah, though I do have a 6'6" one. Are you calling me short?! |
| 13:46.25 | highbury | but decent mattress manufacturers can easily make bigger ones. |
| 13:47.13 | Tarragon | highbury: You are short! |
| 13:47.24 | dank_work | Tarragon: No, you're tall |
| 13:48.03 | Tarragon | If I keep on at this rate I am hoping to make 7' |
| 13:48.13 | highbury | yep, I admit it. although I am the tallest in my family! |
| 13:48.25 | dank_work | Tarragon: Do you do your stretching every morning, then? |
| 13:48.53 | Tarragon | Yes. and only eating long spaghetti |
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| 13:51.13 | *** mode/#gllug [-o highbury] by ChanServ |
| 13:52.11 | dank_work | Tarragon: You any good with RPN? |
| 13:57.32 | Tarragon | Reverse Polish - Yes - Expensive for the machines but would always spend the extra as it is worth it in speed |
| 14:02.49 | dank_work | yeah - question about it |
| 14:03.20 | dank_work | Writing 2 + 3 * 5 in RPN - how would it be done? |
| 14:03.30 | dank_work | 2 3 5 * + |
| 14:03.31 | dank_work | ? |
| 14:04.15 | dank_work | Or 3 5 * 2 + |
| 14:04.15 | dank_work | ? |
| 14:05.06 | eye69 | Time for a possibly very stupid question. They said at the store that the bed comes with linen, which is fine (didn't get sheet though). In Sweden we normally use what's called a "bedding matress"...a thin matress that's mostly used for "fastening" the sheets. |
| 14:06.14 | Tarragon | 3 5 * 2+ gives 17 |
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| 14:06.38 | formi | hello again |
| 14:06.41 | eye69 | How does that work in the UK? |
| 14:07.02 | formi | badly, as most things :-) |
| 14:07.13 | dank_work | Tarragon: That's correct |
| 14:07.34 | dank_work | So you need to have the operator after two operands, yeah? |
| 14:08.35 | dank_work | As oppose to? |
| 14:08.40 | dank_work | Real world? windows world? |
| 14:09.15 | formi | anything |
| 14:09.21 | Tarragon | Not always it is all to do with the stack. 2 3 5 * + would also give 17 as operator * works on top two operands in stack to give 15. The + works on 15 and 2 to give 17. Not all machines support same level of stack though and sometimes they fall off the bottom. |
| 14:10.00 | dank_work | Ah okay. So either would work, depending on the machine, yeah? |
| 14:10.00 | formi | does anybody know of a menber of the weird female species who could up with me? I know it is a lot... |
| 14:10.18 | formi | s/could up/could put up |
| 14:13.31 | highbury | I'm not sure the rest of us can put up with you :-P |
| 14:14.20 | formi | well |
| 14:14.28 | formi | bad luck then |
| 14:16.38 | Clyphox | x rattle? |
| 14:17.42 | Tarragon | eye69: No we do not normally use memory foams or bedding matterresses Normally either one on frame bed or single on a built in divan bed |
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| 14:18.36 | dank_work | hey DavidI |
| 14:18.50 | eye69 | So is the bedsheet huge, so you can fasten it under the matress? |
| 14:19.51 | Davilion | hi |
| 14:20.08 | formi | Clyphox: X11 flame-wars |
| 14:20.18 | Tarragon | Normally yes say a good 60cm extra on every side |
| 14:21.08 | eye69 | Ok. |
| 14:21.28 | eye69 | I should go out and buy a couple. |
| 14:21.39 | Clyphox | formi, what are they on about? |
| 14:21.53 | formi | http://theregister.co.uk/content/4/29910.html |
| 14:22.20 | formi | i don't have the original link, but you should be able to find it |
| 14:23.04 | formi | Tarragon: depends on the size of your belly. |
| 14:23.30 | Tarragon | I was thinking of the undersheet |
| 14:23.45 | formi | does anybody know who is ringo78 ? |
| 14:24.20 | Clyphox | Seems I share my birthday with netbsd |
| 14:25.50 | formi | eye69: http://theregister.co.uk/content/22/29914.html |
| 14:27.32 | eye69 | formi: Just have to hope that they stick a sensible pricetag on it. |
| 14:27.57 | formi | you could volunteer for the trial, if it is free |
| 14:30.16 | highbury | I joined the xfree86 list, anhd there's a *lot* of traffic, I guess people just had all that pent up energy |
| 14:30.28 | formi | good |
| 14:30.53 | formi | zachary: WB |
| 14:31.32 | formi | i think X would be a very good project to provide grounds for a few interesting forks |
| 14:32.06 | Clyphox | X sucks and needs some real reformation |
| 14:34.41 | highbury | really the X Consortium (the people who design X) and XFree86 (the people who implement/port X Consortiums code) should be combined |
| 14:37.26 | formi | what about splitting X in 2 server, one only to be run with no network comms and other running "all" the network com, then you can use one of them or the 2 combined |
| 14:38.53 | highbury | but that's the great thing about X its inherent transparency |
| 14:39.45 | Clyphox | It is still far off from being a nice stable environment. |
| 14:39.52 | formi | well to be completely transparent it should be able to be switched off/removed completely |
| 14:40.07 | formi | hence the 2 server approach |
| 14:40.55 | formi | appart i guess it would make it more programmer friendly, having the comms and graphics more separated than now |
| 14:42.21 | Clyphox | All it needs is some ppl getting doen and dirty for a few months and cleaning it up. |
| 14:42.42 | highbury | that would be a bad thing, people would start creating crippled code |
| 14:42.52 | Clyphox | All these wonderfull open source things with all their potential just need reasonably simple cleanups.. |
| 14:43.10 | formi | highbury: laws of evolution would come into play |
| 14:43.16 | highbury | I wonder how many of the problems are down to the X11R6 base code |
| 14:44.03 | formi | it is better to have a few projects drop for lack of proper implemention than a lot because people don't want to start project that is more complicated |
| 14:44.13 | formi | s/drop/dropped |
| 14:48.13 | SpudULike | 2Mb? What's the point. My CD writer can't keep up as it is! |
| 14:49.13 | SpudULike | Just have to hope that 'El Reg' has it right and they're not really announcing a 2Mb weekly cap. |
| 14:50.25 | formi | SpudULike: i want it to go ahead, because at some point it will drive the prices of the slower connections down |
| 14:51.03 | formi | speaking about telewest im having a very odd issue, my phone doesn't ring |
| 14:51.35 | formi | everything works, I can phone out, if i phone in from the mobile, i can talk to myself |
| 14:51.49 | formi | but when I phone up the handset is mute |
| 14:52.21 | formi | i plug it to another line and it sure rings |
| 14:52.50 | formi | phoned telewest this morning and they said the couldn't see anything wrong in their checks |
| 14:52.55 | eye69 | Do you mean that you connect it to another outlet on the same line? |
| 14:53.09 | formi | a different line, bt |
| 14:53.12 | eye69 | Ok |
| 14:53.31 | formi | the only other thing might be the onetel box |
| 14:53.34 | eye69 | Have you tried different outlets at home? |
| 14:53.59 | formi | not yet, the main one is under somebody else's bed |
| 14:54.04 | eye69 | Ok. |
| 14:54.12 | formi | i might go and disturb her now |
| 14:54.29 | eye69 | I thnk the UK system uses a separate line for the ringer. Check that it hasn't been damaged. |
| 14:55.09 | eye69 | My phone rings just fine, and I've got the onetel thingie installed. |
| 14:55.23 | Davilion | if i want to remotely tell a machine to go to runlevel 1 and back to 5 again is that possible? |
| 14:55.25 | formi | mine used to work |
| 14:55.48 | formi | init 1 ; init 5 |
| 14:55.50 | eye69 | What's 1 again? |
| 14:56.06 | formi | eye69: to low a number |
| 14:56.13 | formi | s/to/too |
| 14:56.15 | eye69 | formi: Then it might be the ringer line that's been damaged. |
| 14:56.44 | formi | ok |
| 14:56.54 | formi | ill do some testing later |
| 14:57.03 | eye69 | http://www.exegesis.uklinux.net/gandalf/phreak/ukwiring.htm |
| 14:57.53 | SpudULike | Or too many devices on the line! If that happens there isn't enough voltage to trigger the ringer! |
| 14:58.39 | eye69 | Oh, you're right about that. |
| 14:58.41 | formi | there are the same # of devices as before |
| 14:58.58 | eye69 | The REN number. |
| 14:59.09 | formi | uh, as it happens i know an ex-phone-phreaker |
| 14:59.27 | formi | i have to phone him later, so will ask |
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| 15:39.39 | Tarragon | Anyone any good idea why my phone system gives four very short rings (More blips) during the day. This has been happening for the last two months? |
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| 15:43.42 | dank_work | wb |
| 15:47.29 | Clyphox | ta |
| 16:09.42 | Tarragon | highbury: Good luck - hope all goes well! |
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| 16:19.40 | jenson | afternoon guys |
| 16:26.51 | dank_work | Finally finished. |
| 16:27.58 | jenson | heya Dan |
| 16:28.48 | dank_work | Hey. |
| 16:29.00 | jenson | awwww |
| 16:29.10 | dank_work | NO I DO NOT WANT TO SAVE CHANGES BECAUSE I HAVEN'T BLOODY CHANGED ANYTHING |
| 16:29.20 | eye69 | dank_work :) |
| 16:29.27 | dank_work | Yeesh. How stupid is MS Worm? |
| 16:29.36 | eye69 | Very. |
| 16:34.15 | dank_work | Righty ho. All done. |
| 16:35.54 | dank_work | Blurgh |
| 16:36.40 | Davilion | heh |
| 16:36.58 | jenson | hey Davilion |
| 16:39.17 | dank_work | :) |
| 16:40.26 | dank_work | Heh. "Sandstorms slowed US and British forces to a crawl and thwarted air missions Tuesday..." |
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| 16:43.26 | KMD | hehehee....... Hello everyone. |
| 16:44.04 | dank_work | Hello. You seem happy |
| 16:45.25 | KMD | Hi dank.... I'm checking out how winXP implements trillian. Most interesting. |
| 16:45.36 | jenson | hi KMD |
| 16:45.46 | KMD | hi Jenson. |
| 16:47.51 | jenson | I gotta be going |
| 16:47.54 | jenson | Seeya guys |
| 16:47.58 | dank_work | cu |
| 16:48.03 | jenson | dank_work: You gonna be online tonight? |
| 16:48.08 | dank_work | Dunno |
| 16:48.18 | jenson | Alright then |
| 16:48.21 | dank_work | I'll probably end up online out of boredom |
| 16:48.21 | jenson | See yaz |
| 16:48.29 | jenson | lol |
| 16:48.59 | SpudULike | dank_work: Did you take Sunday Format? |
| 16:49.10 | dank_work | Errr.....I forgot last night. |
| 16:49.25 | dank_work | I had band practice and went to the pub |
| 16:49.28 | dank_work | That's my excuse |
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| 16:50.13 | SpudULike | Lousy, but believable enough, excuse. |
| 16:50.25 | dank_work | :) |
| 16:50.35 | zachary | bbl, need to go food shopping |
| 16:53.51 | dank_work | Hm |
| 16:54.00 | dank_work | RIP Adam Osbourne |
| 16:54.06 | dank_work | Err. Osborne, even |
| 17:03.31 | Clyphox | ping |
| 17:04.36 | dank_work | poing |
| 17:04.37 | dank_work | pong |
| 17:11.01 | formi_gone | http://www.farodevigo.es/humor/humor1.html |
| 17:11.52 | formi | sometimes sadly we have to laugh at things like that |
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| 17:38.50 | dank_work | BOING! |
| 17:39.02 | Clyphox | Hi dan |
| 17:43.37 | dank_work | Right, well. |
| 17:43.43 | dank_work | I think that I should be off now |
| 17:44.03 | dank_work | Off home, and off to Canada tomorrow |
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| 18:53.31 | zachary | good evening. |
| 18:56.29 | BorgBaby | hi zack |
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| 19:12.38 | marko85_uk | hey everyon |
| 19:12.39 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 19:19.03 | zachary | Evening marko85_uk |
| 19:21.27 | marko85_uk | guys which isp supports linux dialing in? |
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| 19:58.46 | Davilion | ayeup |
| 19:59.30 | Leeds | erev tov |
| 20:00.25 | Davilion | ca va? |
| 20:01.46 | Leeds | at lo madaber ivrit? bseder... |
| 20:01.57 | Leeds | ugh... that should be ata, not at |
| 20:02.30 | Leeds | otherwise I a) got my grammar wrong and b) called you a girl |
| 20:03.09 | Davilion | lol, its all $greek to me :P |
| 20:03.21 | Leeds | $greek=Hebrew :-) |
| 20:03.31 | Davilion | :) |
| 20:03.39 | Davilion | me know nuuuuuuting. :) |
| 20:03.55 | Leeds | I wished you a good evening... then asked "You don't speak Hebrew? Okay..." |
| 20:04.10 | Davilion | although i used to speek punjabi and a bit of urdu. |
| 20:04.25 | Davilion | ahh, no im pig ignorant nowadays im afraid, i can't even remember much french. |
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| 20:06.14 | Leeds | Paul goes in... Paul goes out... Paul goes in... Paul goes out... |
| 20:06.57 | Leeds | Paul goes out... |
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| 20:09.17 | nasrat | ho humm think that's fixed now :) |
| 20:09.59 | pdr | nasrat: what's fixed |
| 20:10.02 | pdr | ? |
| 20:10.29 | nasrat | just config stuff |
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| 21:06.03 | Clyphox | hey all |
| 21:06.26 | Jenson | hey Clyphox |
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| 21:17.10 | Jenson | hiya skugg |
| 21:17.26 | skugg | hi jenson |
| 21:17.46 | skugg | i'm just nipping in to ask a few questions in a different channel... i'll be gone soon |
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| 21:26.46 | Jenson | Heya Dan |
| 21:27.13 | dankolb | evening |
| 22:04.31 | *** part/#gllug Jenson (1000@host213-122-247-223.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 22:30.12 | dpash | anyone still here? |
| 22:30.23 | dpash | why has dankolb gone to canada? |
| 22:31.24 | dankolb | No. |
| 22:31.25 | dankolb | dank_work has |
| 22:31.34 | dankolb | Why shouldn't I go to Canada? :) |
| 22:34.42 | Leeds | so dankolb is here but dank_work is in Canada? |
| 22:35.08 | dankolb | Yeah |
| 22:35.17 | dankolb | I'm following dank_work tomorrow |
| 22:35.40 | Leeds | um... |
| 22:37.37 | dankolb | Windoze? |
| 22:38.05 | Leeds | sofa in front of TV... |
| 22:38.17 | Clyphox | ah... we forgive you |
| 22:38.39 | dankolb | Heh |
| 22:39.28 | dpash | dankolb: not going to tux then? |
| 22:39.43 | dankolb | Nah - that's going on this week |
| 22:39.48 | Leeds | tux? |
| 22:39.56 | dpash | it is much easier for everyone else |
| 22:40.08 | dpash | Leeds: hintertux |
| 22:40.16 | Leeds | hintertux? |
| 22:40.17 | dpash | where Huhn is |
| 22:40.34 | Leeds | ah |
| 22:40.35 | dankolb | But if I'm going to go away for almost two weeks, I think it's best to disconnect from IRC |
| 22:40.53 | Clyphox | good on you.. |
| 22:40.58 | dankolb | Heh :) |
| 22:41.03 | Clyphox | you can do it.. |
| 22:41.15 | Clyphox | Just make sure you check in for regulart progress reports.. |
| 22:41.18 | dpash | dankolb: nah, just use your awaylog |
| 22:41.30 | dankolb | I don't necessarily want to know what's going on, though |
| 22:42.01 | dankolb | Clyphox: If I send an email, you can paste it to here :) |
| 22:42.32 | A4266 | 'ello |
| 22:42.35 | dpash | I'm sure there is a ssh in an applet thing somewhere |
| 22:42.37 | dankolb | 'ello A |
| 22:42.51 | A4266 | Hey dan |
| 22:43.32 | dankolb | Well, I'd like to get away from IRC completely for the time, too |
| 22:43.36 | Leeds | nah, I just wanted to show off :-) |
| 22:44.03 | dankolb | heh |
| 22:45.39 | Leeds | just remember that... |
| 22:45.54 | dankolb | The people I've met in real life are real |
| 22:46.09 | Leeds | not when they're on IRC they're not |
| 22:48.08 | dpash | admittedly some of us were also talking to people who couldn't make it |
| 22:48.24 | Leeds | I quite like the way the handhelds.org (iPAQ Linux) developers weekend was run last year... |
| 22:48.59 | Leeds | a bunch of people in a room at DEC^WCompaq^WHP Labs... with a streaming audio feed out to the web, and IRC projected on a wall so we could shout at them :-) |
| 22:49.01 | dpash | which was? |
| 22:49.17 | dpash | lol |
| 22:49.33 | Leeds | it actually worked pretty well |
| 22:52.43 | dpash | argh no one else has offered to do a talk for the next mklug meeting |
| 22:52.48 | dpash | and I have to go now |
| 22:54.29 | Leeds | hmmm... pan seems almost usable... |
| 22:55.22 | Leeds | although it seems to have lost its original, somewhat unfortunate, name |
| 22:57.13 | dankolb | What's it called now? |
| 22:57.50 | Leeds | still called pan... I should have said it lost the original meaning of the name - at least, I think so... I haven't seen it mentioned |
| 22:58.31 | dankolb | Ah |
| 22:58.38 | dankolb | What was the original meaning? |
| 22:58.43 | Leeds | ah! |
| 22:59.17 | Leeds | the Pimp Assed Newsreader :-) |
| 23:04.25 | Leeds | it's a fairly usable newsreader... |
| 23:09.03 | dankolb | :) |
| 23:10.06 | Clyphox | google |
| 23:10.43 | Leeds | altavista |
| 23:13.57 | Clyphox | The plain [a] install of slack9 is 110 Meg.. |
| 23:14.04 | Clyphox | I bet I can get this below the 20meg mark now.. |
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| 23:14.32 | dankolb | :) |
| 23:15.16 | Leeds | sure |
| 23:15.44 | Leeds | any particular reason why? :-) |
| 23:23.43 | dankolb | It's good to have small Slackware installs :) |
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