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| 00:57.51 | resuDaed | anyone awake? |
| 00:59.35 | ringo78_ | allmost |
| 01:02.10 | resuDaed | I don't think we've met :-) |
| 01:26.51 | highbury | I'm awake too :-/ |
| 01:27.03 | highbury | gvim !$ |
| 01:27.14 | highbury | oops |
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| 08:45.42 | zachary | good morning |
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| 10:00.38 | cup | morning |
| 10:01.58 | dpash | hi all |
| 10:05.20 | Tarragon | morning |
| 10:15.36 | dpash | w00t |
| 10:18.53 | dpash | although I need to write my essays at somepoint over this weekend |
| 10:19.05 | dpash | and apply as a parish councillor |
| 10:19.23 | dpash | deadline is 12pm 1st April |
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| 10:19.40 | dpash | hi Paul |
| 10:20.22 | nasrat | hello |
| 10:29.27 | zachary | Anyone know why Lonix didn't have a March meeting |
| 10:29.29 | zachary | ? |
| 10:30.26 | nasrat | umm not sure maybe Tushar was too busy :) |
| 10:33.27 | zachary | Anyone interested in a GLLUG-Social meeting(1 or 2 times a month, weekday evenings)? |
| 10:34.49 | Tarragon | w00t - Have Red Hat 9.0 |
| 10:35.27 | nasrat | Tarragon: hmm, I thought it wasn't available to rhn until Monday |
| 10:35.33 | nasrat | or am I just confused |
| 10:36.05 | Tarragon | That is only for mortals. Press pack has arrived early. |
| 10:36.45 | nasrat | ah fair enough. nptl looks good :) |
| 10:37.18 | Tarragon | The useless info they give. 9 box set will weigh 1.0lb while professional will weigh 2.76lb |
| 10:38.50 | nasrat | lol |
| 10:39.16 | nasrat | Just out of curiosity does it give any more details on the removal of ipvsadm support? |
| 10:40.14 | Tarragon | Info? It is a review copy of three CD's and one page advert. |
| 10:40.31 | nasrat | Fair enough. |
| 10:41.24 | Tarragon | You want to remove the virtual support? |
| 10:42.03 | nasrat | no it has been removed from the kernel and I don't think ipvsadm is shipped. I'm wondering if they're replacing it or if it's only going to be in advanced server |
| 10:47.26 | Tarragon | Not on the cut down review copy. So sorry I do not know. |
| 10:48.09 | nasrat | fair enough, have fun installing it :) |
| 10:52.37 | dpash | bah |
| 11:00.17 | nasrat | what's up dpash ? |
| 11:02.32 | dpash | redhat |
| 11:03.04 | nasrat | ah that sort of bah :) |
| 11:03.35 | dpash | yeah |
| 11:03.46 | dpash | me and Tarragon had a discussion about this yesterday |
| 11:04.18 | Tarragon | :-) |
| 11:12.00 | dpash | okay stuff to do |
| 11:13.27 | dpash | hmmm just got an email with the subject "please read" |
| 11:13.32 | dpash | now let me think |
| 11:13.50 | dpash | s=INBOX.SPAM<enter> |
| 11:16.13 | dpash | bye |
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| 12:26.39 | formi | greetings digital beings... |
| 12:26.59 | stephen | goodmorning binary formi |
| 12:27.17 | formi | you are right im a very simple person |
| 12:27.54 | stephen | see, i'd like a binary existance, life would be so uncomplicated that it'd be great |
| 12:28.01 | formi | 0, 1, ups 0,1 |
| 12:29.17 | formi | im experiencing some oddities |
| 12:29.24 | formi | with my server clock |
| 12:29.42 | formi | if i type date it comes up with the right time |
| 12:30.27 | formi | but the logs are written clock_time minus 5h |
| 12:31.15 | stephen | hmm, you haven't got a weird timezone set or something |
| 12:31.29 | formi | GMT should be |
| 12:32.08 | formi | [root@dp root]# date |
| 12:32.09 | formi | Fri Mar 28 12:30:27 GMT 2003 |
| 12:32.09 | formi | [root@dp root]# hwclock |
| 12:32.09 | formi | Fri 28 Mar 2003 12:30:33 GMT -0.199965 seconds |
| 12:32.09 | formi | [root@dp root]# |
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| 12:34.40 | formi | hey mickael |
| 12:35.19 | new2unix | Hi Formi |
| 12:35.35 | formi | long time no see |
| 12:35.46 | formi | can we have a private ? |
| 12:35.51 | new2unix | yeah. i'm at work at the mo. |
| 12:36.01 | new2unix | sure. |
| 12:36.10 | new2unix | are you on sdf at the mo? |
| 12:36.24 | formi | nopw |
| 12:36.27 | formi | nope |
| 12:36.33 | formi | Im in many places |
| 12:36.48 | formi | let me log in |
| 12:38.17 | new2unix | hello? |
| 12:53.19 | highbury | formi, try run an atjob with just the date command |
| 12:53.58 | highbury | I suspect that somewhere you've not set the timezone correctly |
| 12:54.32 | highbury | are all the logs incorrect or just some of them, which ones in particular |
| 12:54.55 | formi | im checking mail logs |
| 12:55.44 | formi | if as i posted, date and hwclock report the same time, what else is providing the time? |
| 12:57.56 | formi | Mar 28 07:42:20 dp postfix/cleanup[2004]: 451442FE9: message-id=<001011b1bb02$bac77022$61827351@emaawvb.tur> |
| 12:57.56 | formi | Mar 28 07:42:20 dp postfix/nqmgr[1257]: 451442FE9: from=<dominick66iqla@yahoo.com>, size=1884, nrcpt=2 (queue active) |
| 12:57.56 | formi | Mar 28 12:42:20 dp postfix/local[2006]: 0A0B62FE7: to=<formi@dp.localdomain.org>, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (forwarded as 451442FE9) |
| 12:57.56 | formi | Mar 28 12:42:20 dp postfix/local[2006]: 451442FE9: to=<elfstone@dp.localdomain.org>, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent ("|/usr/bin/procmail -Y -a $DOMAIN -d $LOGNAME") |
| 12:57.58 | formi | Mar 28 07:42:20 dp postfix/smtp[2007]: 451442FE9: to=<formi@tp.localdomain.org>, relay=tp.localdomain.org[10.0.0.191], delay=0, status=sent (250 Ok: queued as 2BDA82164) |
| 12:58.01 | formi | Mar 28 07:42:42 dp postfix/smtpd[2003]: disconnect from localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1] |
| 12:58.03 | formi | . |
| 12:58.28 | formi | that is output from tail -f, it seems it's jumping backwards and forwards. |
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| 13:27.13 | dummy | wass goin on? |
| 13:30.31 | SpudUAway | zachary: Social meeting (from 2 hours ago). I'm sure there would be interest mailing list wide. Set the agenda to suit yourself, choose a time and venue and just tell us all you'll be there. |
| 13:30.58 | SpudUAway | dummy: Did the 'Wass' fit? |
| 13:34.18 | dummy | i didnt get ur jk SpudUAway? |
| 13:44.31 | zachary | SpudUAway: ok. |
| 13:46.01 | Tarragon | :-) |
| 13:47.50 | zachary | Tarragon: Need a night out as well? |
| 13:48.09 | highbury | when you planning this zach> |
| 13:48.16 | Tarragon | -All depends when. |
| 13:48.48 | SpudUAway | dummy: Sorry, I misunderstood, I thought you were putting your 'Wass' on. |
| 13:50.27 | dummy | ohh |
| 13:50.31 | dummy | its cool np |
| 13:51.17 | zachary | April 2/3, 23/24, 30/1? |
| 14:17.16 | highbury | I'm doing my talk on 2nd so 3rd perhaps |
| 14:22.05 | brb_formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:23.30 | zachary | formi: Wife is working tomarrow, I wasn't planning on going. Why? |
| 14:24.08 | formi | i won't be able to go, so i am looking for somebody who could pick up something for me/charity? |
| 14:24.20 | formi | s/pic/buy |
| 14:24.25 | formi | s/pick/buy |
| 15:55.22 | dpash | hi all |
| 15:55.36 | formi | hello |
| 15:56.20 | formi | are you talking about religion? (in the old sense of the word) |
| 15:56.58 | dpash | formi: er no |
| 15:57.22 | formi | i always thought that word made no sense |
| 15:58.14 | formi | or as much sense as its meaning |
| 16:38.50 | SpudUAway | formi: Wasn't planning on going to the fairs tomorrow, but why did you ask? |
| 16:39.20 | formi | i won't be able to go, so i am looking for somebody who could buy something for me/charity? |
| 16:39.42 | formi | namely 5+ 10/100 switch |
| 16:40.36 | SpudUAway | Not something I could make a promise on. |
| 16:40.43 | formi | the hub at the charity stopped working, after 5 months uninterrupted bashing |
| 16:40.49 | SpudUAway | Last week I went to the new show in Brick Lane. |
| 16:41.16 | formi | and ? the journo opinion ? |
| 16:41.53 | SpudUAway | The show itself is quite small, by TCR standards. The food, on the other hand, is fair better. |
| 16:42.00 | formi | do you get some curry when you pay the entrance fee? |
| 16:42.15 | formi | it has to be |
| 16:42.25 | formi | small |
| 16:42.48 | SpudUAway | Entry was free! The food is sold for almost give away prices anyway. |
| 16:43.04 | formi | not all the traders jump into an unknown fair in drives |
| 16:43.23 | SpudUAway | Sim,ilar in size to the one near Centre Point. |
| 16:43.45 | SpudUAway | Maybe some of them just want the day off! |
| 16:43.48 | formi | i suppose if you live VERY near by it could be interesting |
| 16:44.07 | formi | Vince liked the idea |
| 16:44.58 | SpudUAway | It is handy to have a fair on a Sunday, it is convenient to get to also. |
| 16:45.29 | formi | have you seen Sean's mail to the list? Got there a moment ago |
| 16:50.09 | Clyphox | Hi |
| 16:50.15 | formi | hiya |
| 16:53.42 | cup | have a good weekend guys |
| 16:59.15 | Clyphox | wwweeeeeehh |
| 17:00.42 | Clyphox | mminix is fast |
| 17:01.05 | nasrat | Clyphox: are you irc'ing from it? |
| 17:01.33 | Clyphox | alas no |
| 17:01.46 | nasrat | no nic? use slip :) |
| 17:02.02 | Clyphox | Got a ne2k in it atm.. |
| 17:02.14 | Clyphox | just got to work out how to get it going.. |
| 17:02.57 | Clyphox | Booting it under dos so I want to try to move it onto the main hdd now too.. |
| 17:05.40 | Clyphox | ack.. work... cya's |
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| 18:41.35 | Jenson | heya Leeds |
| 18:42.02 | Leeds | evening |
| 18:42.30 | Jenson | how you doing? |
| 18:43.52 | Leeds | not bad |
| 18:43.54 | Leeds | you? |
| 18:44.02 | Jenson | alright thanks |
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| 18:56.31 | Jenson | re Tarragon |
| 18:57.10 | Tarragon | ty |
| 18:57.47 | Leeds | Tarragon: what do you know about the b'ham show next month? |
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| 19:00.38 | Jenson | i'll be back in a little while |
| 19:04.09 | SpudUAway | Is anyone familiar with XScrabble? |
| 19:05.02 | Leeds | never heard of it |
| 19:06.21 | SpudUAway | I'm just trying to figure out what you can do with X Displays, something which XScrabble allows you to use. What needs to be set up to use X Displays (as in :0.0) |
| 19:07.43 | Leeds | in general, ignore the bit after the . |
| 19:07.57 | Leeds | the number before the . is the server number on the current machien |
| 19:09.26 | SpudUAway | If I have two machine on a network, both running X independently, can I still refer to the 'other' machines X Server. Am I alway '0', will the other machine always be '1'? |
| 19:10.01 | Leeds | ah, no |
| 19:10.21 | Leeds | the definition of an X display is <machinename>:<servernumber>.<screennumber> |
| 19:10.40 | Leeds | the first screen (usually the only one) on a machine is screen 0 |
| 19:10.48 | Leeds | so the first screen on my desktop box here is george:0 |
| 19:11.24 | Leeds | if you miss the machine name off, it uses localhost by default, and uses a local socket rather than a remote one - which is a lot quicker |
| 19:12.15 | Leeds | things like VNC and ssh make things a lot more complex by setting up virtual screens :-( |
| 19:14.00 | Leeds | got that? :-) |
| 19:14.29 | SpudUAway | Hmm. I don't seem to be able to make a connection to the 'other' X Server just by referring to it with "other:0.0". Does other stuff need to be turned on to get this to work? |
| 19:14.37 | Leeds | yeah, authentication |
| 19:15.27 | Leeds | various different levels... the easiest, by far, while being vaguely secure, is to run "xhost +<clientmachine>" on the server you want to display on |
| 19:15.33 | SpudUAway | OK, so putting XScrabble aside for the moment and opening up a terminal...... |
| 19:16.02 | SpudUAway | ... and reading man xhost...... |
| 19:16.03 | highbury | start off with something simple like xclock and just try and get that to display |
| 19:16.16 | Leeds | I tend to use xterm, but yeah |
| 19:16.44 | highbury | or run ssh with X forwarding set |
| 19:17.18 | Leeds | simpler to do it direct on a LAN... |
| 19:18.01 | SpudUAway | colin@mine:~> xhost +192.168.1.3 |
| 19:18.01 | SpudUAway | 192.168.1.3 being added to access control list |
| 19:18.13 | SpudUAway | Now, what should I be able to do? |
| 19:18.40 | Leeds | on 192.168.1.3 you should be able to run "DISPLAY=<othermachine>:0 xterm" and have it display |
| 19:19.06 | Leeds | remember that X uses different meaning for server and client than everyone else in the world |
| 19:22.16 | SpudUAway | Hmm, should the ip address of 'othermachine' work, 'cos it didn't! |
| 19:22.29 | Leeds | should work... |
| 19:22.50 | Leeds | so 1.3 is the server, and 1.what? is the client? |
| 19:22.51 | SpudUAway | DISPLAY=<192.168.1.3>:0 xterm |
| 19:23.01 | SpudUAway | sh: 192.168.1.3: No such file or directory |
| 19:23.15 | Leeds | without the <> :-) |
| 19:23.21 | SpudUAway | That should be - |
| 19:23.25 | SpudUAway | Bash: 192.168.1.3: No such file or directory |
| 19:23.28 | Leeds | that is to make where you should replace something! |
| 19:23.33 | SpudUAway | Ah, ;-0 |
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| 19:23.40 | Leeds | make=mark |
| 19:23.59 | SpudUAway | Of course it does! |
| 19:24.26 | SpudUAway | Xlib: connection to "192.168.1.3:0.0" refused by server |
| 19:24.27 | SpudUAway | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 19:24.28 | SpudUAway | xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 192.168.1.3:0 |
| 19:24.48 | Leeds | first thing... forget the .0 |
| 19:25.00 | Leeds | which one is the server??? |
| 19:25.28 | SpudUAway | Both are running X. |
| 19:25.51 | Leeds | which one is the server? |
| 19:26.59 | SpudUAway | Hmm, 192.168.1.2 is the machine I am using and I want to control a window on 192.168.1.3. Which one is the server? |
| 19:27.20 | Leeds | the server is the one you display on... the client is the one you run the command on... |
| 19:27.32 | Leeds | I did say X used strange meanings |
| 19:28.00 | SpudUAway | OK x.x.1.3 is the server. |
| 19:28.38 | Leeds | so, the thing with the ACL is the server... |
| 19:28.57 | Leeds | you need to run "xhost +<clientname>" in an xterm running against the server |
| 19:28.57 | SpudUAway | 'Access Control List'? |
| 19:29.26 | Leeds | yup |
| 19:29.31 | SpudUAway | So I need to run xhost on x.x.1.3? |
| 19:29.51 | Leeds | yup |
| 19:30.07 | SpudUAway | and clientname will be x.x.1.2? |
| 19:30.25 | Leeds | the important way to look at it is that the server provides display services, which are consumed by the client |
| 19:33.21 | Leeds | so? |
| 19:35.03 | SpudUAway | Hmm, on x.x.1.3 - |
| 19:35.10 | SpudUAway | everyone:~ # xhost +192.168.1.2 |
| 19:35.11 | SpudUAway | xhost: unable to open display "" |
| 19:35.51 | Leeds | okay... it doesn't matter on which machine you run what... all that matters is the value of the DISPLAY variable... that's the whole point of X :-) |
| 19:35.59 | Leeds | you've really never done this stuff before? |
| 19:36.15 | Leeds | what is DISPLAY set to in that xterm? console? |
| 19:36.15 | SpudUAway | You can tell, can't you! |
| 19:37.07 | SpudUAway | everyone:~ # echo $DISPLAY |
| 19:37.07 | SpudUAway | everyone:~ # |
| 19:37.18 | SpudUAway | So, it's not set? |
| 19:37.20 | Leeds | when I put a ? I mean I'm asking a question, and wanting an answer. is this an xterm or a console or what? |
| 19:37.46 | SpudUAway | It's an Xterm |
| 19:38.03 | Leeds | okay... I'm not meaning to be rude, but I can't see what you're doing... |
| 19:38.15 | Leeds | so if you run xterm from that xterm, it fails? |
| 19:38.55 | SpudUAway | I can't start the xterm on the remote machine, if that's what you mean? |
| 19:39.15 | Leeds | that's not what I mean... |
| 19:39.35 | Leeds | you ran xhost, then echoed $DISPLAY, in an xterm. if you run xterm from the shell, what happens? |
| 19:41.50 | SpudUAway | Hmm, you've just opened up another hole in my knowledge about the difference between xterms and shells. |
| 19:42.25 | Leeds | an xterm is a vt100 emulator |
| 19:42.48 | SpudUAway | 'konsol' is a KDE xterm or shell or consol? |
| 19:43.12 | Leeds | a shell is a program which runs in an xterm - it's entirely possible to run something else in an xterm, or even (while it's a lot harder) to run an xterm from an existing program and use it for i/o |
| 19:43.28 | Leeds | I did the latter at my old job... it's one of the lesser-known functions of xterm |
| 19:43.35 | Leeds | so it's not an xterm! |
| 19:43.42 | Leeds | why not just say konsol? |
| 19:43.54 | Leeds | konsol is a KDE (bah!) xterm clone |
| 19:44.29 | Leeds | it's good to see Top of the Pops with a large display with green console-fonts on it :-) |
| 19:46.41 | SpudUAway | I am going to admit defeat on the X Display thing, for now. |
| 19:46.48 | Leeds | why? |
| 19:46.59 | Leeds | just be *precise* and it's easy |
| 19:47.01 | SpudUAway | Is it something that could be easily shown off in the network labs? |
| 19:47.14 | Leeds | it's too trivial for that |
| 19:47.36 | Leeds | both machines have heads? |
| 19:47.55 | SpudUAway | Both of my machines, yes. |
| 19:48.05 | Leeds | right |
| 19:48.15 | Leeds | on 1.3, type "xhost +192.168.1.2" |
| 19:48.28 | Leeds | on 1.2, type "DISPLAY=192.168.1.3:0 xterm" |
| 19:48.50 | Leeds | that's all there is to it... |
| 19:49.00 | SpudUAway | On x.x.1.3 I get - |
| 19:49.03 | Leeds | but I don't like telling people what to do... I like telling people how to do what they want to do |
| 19:49.14 | SpudUAway | everyone:~ # xhost +192.168.1.2 |
| 19:49.14 | SpudUAway | xhost: unable to open display "" |
| 19:49.33 | Leeds | if you just type xterm on 1.3 what happens? I asked you that a while ago? |
| 19:50.03 | SpudUAway | xterm Xt error: Can't open display: %s |
| 19:50.29 | Leeds | if you do "DISPLAY=:0 xterm" what happens? |
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| 19:50.52 | SpudUAway | on x.x.1.3 ? |
| 19:51.01 | Leeds | yes |
| 19:51.14 | SpudUAway | everyone:~ # DISPLAY=:0 xterm |
| 19:51.14 | SpudUAway | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 19:51.14 | SpudUAway | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 19:51.35 | Leeds | that's just strange... |
| 19:51.40 | SpudUAway | Ah, no, hold on. |
| 19:51.55 | Leeds | give me more information about X on 1.3 - how did you start it? can you start X programs from anywhere? |
| 19:51.56 | SpudUAway | I am entering this command via ssh. |
| 19:52.04 | Leeds | doh! |
| 19:52.22 | Leeds | type it *on that machine* - that's why I asked about heads |
| 19:52.37 | SpudUAway | Well, the other machine is the other side of the room! |
| 19:52.47 | Leeds | and? |
| 19:52.55 | Leeds | get off your lazy ass and walk over there :-) |
| 19:54.06 | SpudUAway | It's a long way. |
| 19:54.13 | SpudUAway | All of 8' ! |
| 19:54.23 | zachary | SpudUAway: You need the exercise! |
| 19:54.24 | Leeds | 8 what? |
| 19:54.25 | zachary | :) |
| 19:54.34 | SpudUAway | I got the same error - |
| 19:54.39 | SpudUAway | everyone:~ # DISPLAY=:0 xterm |
| 19:54.39 | SpudUAway | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 19:54.39 | Jenson | SpudUAway: Stand up, then fall over, you should be almost there |
| 19:54.39 | SpudUAway | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 19:54.44 | Tarragon | We all wait for the long eight foot return trip |
| 19:55.01 | Leeds | <Leeds> give me more information about X on 1.3 - how did you start it? can you start X programs from anywhere? |
| 19:55.29 | Jenson | Ohhh, I just remembered I have a newbie question? |
| 19:56.10 | Jenson | Right here goes |
| 19:56.46 | Jenson | If I delete my Debian partition will it mess up the 2 versions of lilo that i have (another thing i oguht to fix) and make the system unbootable |
| 19:57.12 | Leeds | if one of the performers on Top of the Pops is wearing in-ear headphones, does it mean he's listening to himself so he knows when to mime? |
| 19:57.42 | SpudUAway | Prolly means their deaf, with us only wishing so! |
| 19:57.46 | Jenson | Leeds: they are call3ed monitors, so they can hear backing music properly, they do it when they are live too |
| 19:57.54 | Jenson | although he could also be miming |
| 19:58.06 | Leeds | Jenson: I know what monitors are, but aren't they usually stand-alone speakers, not in-ear headphones? |
| 19:59.06 | Leeds | SpudUAway: how did you start the konsol (should that have an e on the end?) on 1.3? |
| 19:59.27 | Jenson | Leeds: earphones AFAIK |
| 19:59.43 | Jenson | is anyone gonna answer my question? |
| 19:59.56 | zachary | Jenson: Dual booting? |
| 20:00.45 | Jenson | zachary: Nah I'm triple booting, I just want to delete a partition |
| 20:01.03 | Leeds | yay - warty towels! |
| 20:01.10 | SpudUAway | Leeds: I will have o leave it for now, now that the machine has been reset by unhelpful child. |
| 20:01.23 | Leeds | SpudUAway: whatever |
| 20:02.51 | zachary | Jenson: Depends on where the boot loaders are. If you delete a partition it will not affect the boot loader on the master-boot-record(mbr). But if you delete a partition that has a boot loader on it it will affect the the os's that the boot loader controls. |
| 20:03.33 | Jenson | zachary: I have one lilo on the MBR, and one on the Slack partition (blame zimm not me) and it's the Debian partition I want to delete |
| 20:05.08 | zachary | You "should" be able to delete the Debian with no affect. You might want to update /etc/lilo.conf on the slackware and enable it by typing lilo in a command shell as root |
| 20:05.48 | Jenson | My parents would be extatic if I fucked it up. They hate Linux |
| 20:06.20 | Leeds | back later... |
| 20:10.42 | Jenson | someone wanna tell me what, what im about to post means? |
| 20:10.55 | Jenson | bash-2.05a# lilo |
| 20:10.55 | Jenson | Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed |
| 20:10.55 | Jenson | Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 and function 0x48 return different |
| 20:10.55 | Jenson | head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x80 |
| 20:10.55 | Jenson | Added Win98 * |
| 20:10.56 | Jenson | Added Slackware |
| 20:12.16 | stephen | well, the 'Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed' can be solved by simply sticking 'lba32' on a line by itself in /etc/lilo.conf |
| 20:12.31 | stephen | dunno about the geometry errors though |
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| 20:16.27 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 20:17.37 | stephen | grr, spamming looser |
| 20:18.01 | Jenson | he always hits on me foir no reason |
| 20:18.29 | stephen | Jenson: ? |
| 20:19.00 | Jenson | he does...always irritaing me on /msg |
| 20:19.20 | stephen | oh, the wonders of /ignore |
| 20:19.42 | Jenson | stephen: when i try to use /ignore it doesnt work lol |
| 20:19.54 | stephen | does he always use the same nickname? |
| 20:20.05 | stephen | and are you using xchat? |
| 20:21.00 | Jenson | yeh |
| 20:21.41 | stephen | then '/ignore marko85_uk!*@* all' should work |
| 20:32.48 | Tarragon | ibot seen ringo78_ |
| 20:32.49 | | ringo78_ is currently on #gllug (2d 12h 38m 25s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 19h 33m 14s |
| 20:59.59 | *** join/#gllug skugg (~stig@braut.plus.com) |
| 21:02.00 | Jenson | hi skugg |
| 21:02.07 | skugg | hi jenson |
| 21:02.29 | skugg | me is bored |
| 21:02.40 | skugg | entertain me! :) |
| 21:02.48 | skugg | <--- commanding |
| 21:06.03 | Jenson | I'll BBL |
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| 21:20.33 | skugg | haha! best sig-food seen today: " The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson. " |
| 21:20.50 | skugg | thanks for that page jenson, it's full of gold ;) |
| 21:20.54 | Jenson | thought you might like it lol |
| 21:21.13 | Jenson | skugg: thats page 2, you can get page 1 from a link at the bottom |
| 21:21.41 | Jenson | and the conversation in 'the paddock' about Ralf rumours is kinda weid |
| 21:21.56 | Jenson | and i cant type on this laptop so i should get on with what im doing with the pc |
| 21:22.15 | Jenson | plus if my mother finds out im using her precious piece of xp crap she'll kill me |
| 21:22.24 | skugg | heh |
| 21:23.16 | Jenson | least it keeps her off the pc lol |
| 21:24.28 | Jenson | stephen: my mother wouldnt know what a bios is |
| 21:24.47 | eye69 | All the better |
| 21:24.56 | stephen | exactly, wouldn't be able to figure it out then |
| 21:25.02 | stephen | evening eye69 |
| 21:25.10 | eye69 | Hellu |
| 21:25.20 | stephen | well, other eye69 actually |
| 21:25.25 | Jenson | stephen: its her laptop, its my parents whom love xp not me |
| 21:26.30 | stephen | I don't know why everyone likes XP, 2000 was so much better |
| 21:26.45 | Jenson | XP is annoying |
| 21:26.51 | Jenson | it confuses me |
| 21:28.12 | Jenson | its a nice laptop though |
| 21:35.05 | Jenson | fuck, why wont windows read the new fat32 partition i just added |
| 21:35.31 | Jenson | maybe it needs formatting |
| 21:36.01 | stephen | yer, tends to need formatting :) |
| 21:36.36 | Jenson | heh, i was too engrosed in the fact i now know how to add a mount point lol |
| 21:37.52 | Jenson | damn win is so unstable |
| 21:40.08 | Jenson | formatting could be difficult, bloody thing |
| 21:45.26 | Jenson | damn its on announce mode on here - sorry |
| 21:52.22 | Jenson | whats everyone else doing? |
| 21:55.14 | skugg | reading the jokes on that page |
| 21:55.16 | Jenson | i'm gonna go watch tv, later guys |
| 21:55.17 | Leeds | playing NWN |
| 21:55.20 | skugg | otherwise naught |
| 21:55.26 | skugg | Leeds, nwn? |
| 21:55.26 | Jenson | im falling asleep |
| 21:55.36 | Jenson | bloody windows scandisk |
| 21:55.42 | Leeds | neverwinter nights |
| 21:55.49 | Jenson | im gonna go watch romeo and juliet for a bit |
| 21:55.55 | Jenson | later guys |
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| 21:59.43 | nasrat | evening |
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| 22:06.07 | Davilion | evening all |
| 22:06.14 | nasrat | evening |
| 22:07.20 | skugg | evening |
| 22:07.37 | Davilion | Hows it going? |
| 22:07.45 | skugg | slow |
| 22:07.50 | skugg | <-- bored |
| 22:08.09 | skugg | just been reading some jokes jenson posted though -- lots-o-fun there |
| 22:08.31 | Davilion | me to |
| 22:08.32 | Davilion | just got back to gala |
| 22:08.41 | skugg | gala? |
| 22:08.47 | nasrat | bingo? |
| 22:10.47 | skugg | i installed bogofilter today |
| 22:11.43 | skugg | will give it a bit and see how much of my spam it catches -- more and more spam starts to seep through spamassassin... |
| 22:12.10 | skugg | since bogofilter continually learns it should be able to cope |
| 22:12.22 | skugg | plus, it's *much* faster :) |
| 22:12.37 | skugg | it doesn't bring my machine to a halt handling 15-20 messages ;) |
| 22:14.15 | Davilion | galashiels wee yokal town in the scottish borders. |
| 22:14.52 | nasrat | fair enough, sorry for casting bad aspersions on your character :) |
| 22:15.18 | Davilion | lol |
| 22:18.31 | zachary | gotta go, good night! |
| 22:19.31 | Leeds | skugg: not using the spamd? |
| 22:19.54 | skugg | Leeds, yes I am. |
| 22:20.13 | skugg | this machine is not very memory-loaded though... |
| 22:20.17 | Leeds | ah |
| 22:21.26 | nasrat | I found the lmtp listener to be a bit leaky with SA. |
| 22:22.09 | skugg | if bogofilter turn out to be very good I can maybe get rid of spamd too -- it's not bothersome at the moment, but every little bit helps I guess. |
| 22:22.58 | skugg | nasrat, could you explain that? I'm not sure what you mean... |
| 22:25.04 | nasrat | spam assasin has a contrib lmtp proxy for spamd which you can hook up to lmtp supporting mta's, it leaked memory and didn't fully support all of lmtp |
| 22:25.40 | nasrat | Davilion: what are you shopping for? |
| 22:25.55 | Davilion | best friend stacy is 21 tommorow. |
| 22:26.05 | Davilion | specifically looking for jewelry. |
| 22:26.45 | nasrat | What sort of stuff - silver, gold, steel? |
| 22:26.52 | Davilion | silver. |
| 22:27.01 | Davilion | not sure what exactly. |
| 22:27.08 | Davilion | i've been going through photos looking at what she wears. |
| 22:27.32 | skugg | Davilion, overachiver ;) |
| 22:27.37 | Davilion | hahah |
| 22:27.55 | Davilion | well shes been telling all her (single) friends how nice I am etc... |
| 22:28.04 | Davilion | So i'd like to live up to my reputation. |
| 22:28.41 | Davilion | yeah me too, i dont wear any jewelry normally, i used to wear a ring, but i kept catching it on the inside of computers, got a nsaty shock once and stopped wearing it |
| 22:29.09 | nasrat | Davilion: if you're looking for original work, ISTR around Clerkenwell there are various artist/silversmiths |
| 22:29.46 | Davilion | I've left it to last minute so will get something from edinburgh tommorow |
| 22:30.45 | nasrat | http://www.assayofficescotland.co.uk/ |
| 22:32.25 | Davilion | ta. |
| 22:32.31 | Davilion | right bbiab mobile is getting hot. |
| 22:55.54 | skugg | heh. |
| 22:56.15 | skugg | saw a kde/windows joke just now: "KDE 3.1.1 for workgroups" |
| 22:56.17 | skugg | ;) |
| 22:56.33 | stephen | lol |
| 23:09.28 | Leeds | hah |
| 23:16.00 | Leeds | ibot slashdot |
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| 23:20.58 | dummy | hey whats up people? |
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| 23:31.27 | skugg | not much. |
| 23:31.59 | skugg | why do sheep have a nack for hanging in dark alleys at night? |
| 23:32.17 | skugg | "because it's baaaaahhhd for you" :) |
| 23:32.29 | Jenson | I think i better go sleep |
| 23:32.36 | skugg | goodnight then |
| 23:32.39 | Jenson | have a nice evning skugg |
| 23:32.41 | Jenson | cya |