| 00:00.28 | Leeds | highbury: really? my mum didn't mention that while enthusing about the cute pictures :-) |
| 00:00.31 | formi | accepts pentiums as well, wierd memory type probably |
| 00:00.39 | Stephen | yer, I'll keep looking, my parents will probably kill me whe the find out I now have 2 Sun machines and now possibly another i386 too |
| 00:01.29 | resuDaed | then run chroot to hdd and run lilo ... shout run ok |
| 00:01.37 | formi | Leeds: some day you could take a few pics of your flat, and post them |
| 00:01.39 | resuDaed | s/hould/should |
| 00:01.51 | Leeds | formi: no room for a camera |
| 00:02.03 | formi | highbury: that's was not nice |
| 00:02.16 | resuDaed | highbury : what a waste |
| 00:02.21 | Jenson | highbury: evil |
| 00:02.37 | resuDaed | highbury : I would have found it a home |
| 00:02.46 | resuDaed | even as a diskless workstation |
| 00:03.12 | Jenson | resuDaed: I found two 186s a home in the corner of my room until my mother forced me to dump them |
| 00:03.35 | formi | i have a few 8088 chips somewhere |
| 00:04.10 | resuDaed | ok, I have to boot knoppix now (my hdd is fscked), be back (hopefully) in a couple of mins |
| 00:05.40 | Stephen | hmm, I'll have to look for an IT job next year, probably going to be harder than hell |
| 00:06.01 | Jenson | I would look, if I had anything worth offering |
| 00:06.27 | resuDaed | ok, rebooting now |
| 00:06.33 | Leeds | Stephen: graduating? doing comp. sci. or similar? |
| 00:06.43 | Stephen | hopefully by the end of next year brookes will have taught me something worth offering |
| 00:06.49 | Stephen | Leeds: industrial placement year |
| 00:07.35 | highbury | resuDaed: it was dead |
| 00:07.48 | Jenson | I wanna go to uni, but at the same time I'm usually too depressed to care |
| 00:07.50 | Stephen | Leeds: and yes, Computing Science at Oxford Brookes |
| 00:08.37 | Leeds | ah, Oxford Poly |
| 00:08.43 | Jenson | godness...wouldnt lordship be a better word |
| 00:08.48 | Stephen | Leeds: indeed |
| 00:10.07 | Leeds | Stephen: good luck... you'll need it... |
| 00:11.07 | Stephen | Leeds: exactly, but hopefully the linux stuff I've done will make me a bit more attractive to employers |
| 00:11.23 | Leeds | oh, you'll be attractive as a monkey, paid peanuts... |
| 00:13.01 | Leeds | depends on what kind of things you're after... |
| 00:13.16 | Stephen | Leeds: by the sound of things, anything |
| 00:13.34 | Leeds | mine was a "get your degree, get out |
| 00:13.39 | Leeds | " sort of course |
| 00:14.07 | Jenson | Stephen: I might work as a volunteer IT tech at a primary school, but I'm paid to be a fscking cleaner |
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| 00:14.44 | resuDaed | grrr, ah well ... knoppix booted ok anyway |
| 00:14.47 | Jenson | wb resuDaed |
| 00:15.09 | resuDaed | just doesn't have bitchx, will have to make do with xchat |
| 00:15.20 | Jenson | xchat is better than bitchx |
| 00:15.25 | Stephen | Jenson: I'm working as a volunteer sysadmin atm, as it's something I can actually put down on my cv when I get around to writing one |
| 00:15.35 | resuDaed | matter of opinion |
| 00:15.53 | resuDaed | I tend to ssh in to my system a lot, xchat doesn't work then |
| 00:16.22 | Jenson | Stephen: I spend most of my time sorting out the fscking printer coz people dont know how to get it to load paper when it runs out. One little button ffs |
| 00:16.29 | Jenson | resuDaed: I use irssi for ssh |
| 00:16.48 | resuDaed | eye69: you still there? |
| 00:16.53 | Stephen | Jenson: been there, done that, couldn't wait to get out |
| 00:16.54 | Jenson | i hada CV...until I killed my system |
| 00:17.03 | eye69 | resuDaed: Yep. |
| 00:17.19 | resuDaed | Jenson: using either irssi or bitchx is a matter of preference ... pretty similar in functionality |
| 00:17.35 | resuDaed | eye69: : you would reckon copying accross then |
| 00:17.39 | resuDaed | (as in cp) |
| 00:17.47 | Jenson | resuDaed: Yeh, except in BitchX i send my /msgs to the wrong ppl by accident |
| 00:17.55 | eye69 | Yeah, provided you don't want to reinstall. |
| 00:18.13 | resuDaed | I like this set up :-) |
| 00:18.28 | formi | resuDaed: ever tried, xchat-text ? |
| 00:18.38 | resuDaed | formi: no |
| 00:18.40 | formi | or epic4? |
| 00:19.00 | formi | well i recommend you give it a go |
| 00:19.03 | eye69 | I ran epic4 with Lice until about 1.5yrs ago. |
| 00:19.16 | eye69 | Changed to irssi...I'm not looking back... |
| 00:19.23 | Jenson | Time for sleep |
| 00:19.42 | Jenson | night Leeds |
| 00:19.48 | Leeds | night all, Jenson |
| 00:19.49 | resuDaed | night Jenson |
| 00:19.54 | Jenson | night resuDaed |
| 00:20.03 | Leeds | night jim-bob |
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| 00:21.01 | formi | jim-bod ? |
| 00:21.13 | formi | jim-bob ? |
| 00:24.11 | highbury | Walton's reference |
| 00:24.50 | resuDaed | ok, I have writeen my parition table, will now need to reboot, brb |
| 00:25.58 | formi | off to bed |
| 00:26.12 | formi | wherever that is |
| 00:26.16 | formi | good night |
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| 00:31.17 | resuDaed | eye69: what flags would I need for cp? |
| 00:31.28 | eye69 | Are you currently running the machine? |
| 00:31.38 | resuDaed | am running knoppix |
| 00:31.42 | eye69 | Ok, good. |
| 00:31.58 | eye69 | Just 'cp -a' |
| 00:32.08 | resuDaed | and R? |
| 00:32.11 | eye69 | No. |
| 00:32.14 | eye69 | Just -a |
| 00:32.30 | resuDaed | and v :-) |
| 00:32.36 | resuDaed | (so I know it works) |
| 00:32.44 | eye69 | Yeah |
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| 00:43.04 | eye69 | Tom? |
| 00:44.33 | resuDaed | its copying atm, I just got confused with some mounting |
| 00:45.06 | eye69 | Okie |
| 00:45.22 | eye69 | You remembered to make the swap partition, right? :) |
| 00:46.00 | resuDaed | yes |
| 00:47.36 | resuDaed | hdd1 = 15GB : /, hdd2 = 20GB : /home, hdd3 = 5GB : swap (overkill I know, but I just got lazy and filled my disk) |
| 00:50.12 | resuDaed | after I am finished copying, am I right in thinking that I should update fstab, chroot into hdd ... run lilo ... reboot w/out old hdd and all will work (hopefully) |
| 00:52.25 | eye69 | Uhm...Linux doesn't use more than 2GB swap anyway... |
| 00:52.44 | eye69 | Yeah, that should work. |
| 00:52.52 | resuDaed | eye69: I know, but like I said, I got lazy in my fdisking |
| 00:53.07 | eye69 | Run 'mkswap' on the swap partition |
| 00:53.14 | resuDaed | ah yes |
| 00:56.27 | resuDaed | didn't know there were quite so many files on this box |
| 01:02.43 | resuDaed | eye69: if you are still up, you may as well go to bed, this will take a while, I think I can finish it from here |
| 01:03.01 | eye69 | Can't sleep yet :) |
| 01:03.13 | eye69 | Listening to Soilwork and taking it easy |
| 01:10.53 | resuDaed | ah ok, I am just copying mp3s |
| 01:11.04 | resuDaed | should be a bit quicker, bigger files, but less of them |
| 01:11.43 | resuDaed | (I am getting the feeling that verbosing the output of cp is slowing the speed of copying) |
| 01:12.25 | resuDaed | both hdds are running ATA133 with DMA enabled |
| 01:12.59 | resuDaed | processor and ram usage are not peaking |
| 01:13.06 | resuDaed | is going ok |
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| 01:24.35 | knoppix_ | ugghhh |
| 01:25.00 | resuDaed | a screenfull of DMA errors writing to hdd2 |
| 01:25.12 | Stephen | resuDaed: that's caught me out a couple of times too (the knoppix thing) |
| 01:25.12 | resuDaed | ah well, got enough accross anyway |
| 01:25.34 | highbury | the trouble is that running the command in verbose mode, will hide any errors |
| 01:25.45 | resuDaed | Stephen: :-) what annoys me is having to write out the server details |
| 01:25.53 | resuDaed | highbury: it was a h/ware problem |
| 01:26.25 | resuDaed | on a very low level, the disk decided to misbehave |
| 01:26.40 | highbury | personally I always prefer to copy partitions with tar |
| 01:26.58 | resuDaed | anyway, I am just finalising the mbr/fstab etc, then hopefully should boot |
| 01:27.17 | highbury | but that's mostly a hangover from not having access to GNU cp |
| 01:27.22 | resuDaed | does anyone know the root pwd for knoppix? |
| 01:27.31 | highbury | there isn't one! |
| 01:27.39 | resuDaed | then how come I cannot su ? |
| 01:27.43 | highbury | you just "sudo su -" |
| 01:27.49 | resuDaed | ah :-) |
| 01:28.04 | highbury | or you bring up a root window from the start bar |
| 01:28.18 | resuDaed | I don't use kde much (as yo |
| 01:28.23 | highbury | or you CTL-ALT-F1 |
| 01:28.24 | resuDaed | you can probably tell) |
| 01:29.02 | highbury | its on the specifc Knoppix menu item, on which ever Window manager you've booted to |
| 01:29.46 | eye69 | resuDaed: Do a fresh install when you get the time. |
| 01:29.55 | resuDaed | eye69: I will |
| 01:32.51 | resuDaed | ok, now attempting the final reboot |
| 01:42.25 | highbury | wow! just seen the best 401 permission denied messages http://www.torrents.co.uk/new_bt/admin/index.php, it'll prompt you for password, which obviously you'll then select cancel, but then watch in awe! |
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| 01:42.32 | resuDaed | :( no boot |
| 01:43.08 | resuDaed | LI 01 (followed by lots more 01s) |
| 01:44.00 | resuDaed | am trying again |
| 01:44.02 | resuDaed | brb |
| 01:44.06 | eye69 | highbury: Heh, cool. |
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| 01:46.57 | resuDaed | grrr, any ideas why I cannot boot? |
| 01:47.53 | resuDaed | anyone still here? |
| 01:48.11 | eye69 | Does knoppix provide grub by any chance? |
| 01:48.15 | highbury | I'm here, but I haven't been keeping up with your config / predicament |
| 01:48.38 | eye69 | Check if you have /usr/lib/grub |
| 01:48.41 | highbury | what distro are you trying to boot |
| 01:49.08 | resuDaed | highbury, I have copied data from 1 hdd to other, used lilo to write mbr ... it writes 'ok', but upon reboot, does not run |
| 01:49.14 | resuDaed | debian |
| 01:49.41 | eye69 | It would be very easy to boot that with Grub, provided that you have a floppydisk |
| 01:49.42 | resuDaed | eye69: I do |
| 01:49.58 | resuDaed | (have grub and a floppy disk) |
| 01:50.03 | eye69 | Cool |
| 01:50.07 | eye69 | Put in the floppy |
| 01:50.12 | eye69 | Is it dos formatted? |
| 01:50.20 | resuDaed | 1 sec, have to find laptop case first |
| 01:50.27 | resuDaed | probably, never used it |
| 01:51.35 | highbury | how many disks, how many partitions on them, what is contents of lilo.conf |
| 01:53.27 | resuDaed | highbury, 1 disk (40GB), 2 partitons, root(15GB), home(20GB) ... lilo boots memtest or /boot/vmLinuz on hda1 |
| 01:53.45 | eye69 | Found a disk? |
| 01:54.25 | resuDaed | eye69: yes, and its in |
| 01:54.28 | resuDaed | and mounted |
| 01:54.46 | eye69 | Ok, 'mkdir -p /floppy/boot/grub' |
| 01:55.12 | resuDaed | done |
| 01:55.14 | eye69 | 'cp /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/* /floppy/boot/grub' |
| 01:55.21 | eye69 | 'umount /floppy' |
| 01:55.26 | eye69 | 'grub' |
| 01:55.36 | eye69 | In grub: run 'root (fd0)' |
| 01:55.43 | eye69 | 'setup (fd0)' |
| 01:56.44 | eye69 | Then 'quit' |
| 01:56.52 | eye69 | Then you should be able to reboot on the floppy |
| 01:57.09 | eye69 | Actually... 'mount /floppy' again |
| 01:57.22 | eye69 | Then 'vi /floppy/boot/grub/menu.lst' |
| 01:57.28 | eye69 | Put this in the file: |
| 01:57.31 | eye69 | timeout 10 |
| 01:57.41 | eye69 | title Debian |
| 01:58.00 | eye69 | root (hd0,0) |
| 01:58.26 | eye69 | kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-bf2.4 root=/dev/hda1 |
| 01:58.44 | eye69 | Save the file, and then you should be able to reboot |
| 01:59.13 | highbury | actually, its getting a bit late for me, I'll leave you in eye69's capable hands, night |
| 01:59.22 | eye69 | G'night highbury |
| 01:59.22 | resuDaed | night |
| 01:59.27 | eye69 | highbury: Congrats btw |
| 01:59.41 | resuDaed | congrats? |
| 02:00.03 | eye69 | Yeah, he got married, didn't he? |
| 02:00.31 | resuDaed | didn't know (be d/c for a while) |
| 02:00.39 | resuDaed | congrats highbury |
| 02:00.53 | eye69 | resuDaed: You'll like grub :) |
| 02:01.20 | eye69 | resuDaed: If you don't make the menu.lst file you can just type the commands are the prompt, and as such boot any machine with one floppy |
| 02:01.27 | eye69 | s/are/at/ |
| 02:01.35 | resuDaed | vmlinuz all lower case? |
| 02:01.48 | eye69 | Depends on what the filename is |
| 02:02.45 | resuDaed | just vmlinuz (no kernel version) |
| 02:03.11 | eye69 | Whatever the filename is... |
| 02:03.31 | eye69 | I think it's usually vmlinuz-2.4.18-bf2.4 |
| 02:03.35 | resuDaed | ok, rebooting |
| 02:03.38 | eye69 | Okie |
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| 02:17.08 | resuDaed | I have my own box back at least |
| 02:17.18 | resuDaed | if not a slightly confused boot up |
| 02:18.14 | resuDaed | (I messed up the menu.lst file, and attempted to boot maually, forgetting to set root= on the kernel command, and got the error message 'I Want To Scream' |
| 02:19.11 | eye69 | Hehehe |
| 02:19.33 | eye69 | The grub boot prompt even has tab completion :) |
| 02:20.07 | resuDaed | I noticed ... very cool |
| 02:20.15 | eye69 | I haven't run lilo for some time...grub is awesome |
| 02:21.01 | resuDaed | all of a sudden, I seem to have pam running though |
| 02:21.02 | eye69 | There's always a grub bootdisk lying around too :) |
| 02:22.05 | resuDaed | but my df looks much better ... 9.7GB free on / and 11GB free on home |
| 02:22.28 | eye69 | Heh |
| 02:23.07 | eye69 | Just should it you want me to fixup a kernel config |
| 02:23.27 | resuDaed | say again? |
| 02:23.36 | eye69 | I noticed nvidia has a new driver version out, with an installer |
| 02:23.44 | resuDaed | ah, could eb useful |
| 02:24.49 | resuDaed | how do you feel about having another hack over ssh? |
| 02:25.02 | eye69 | I'm already in : ) |
| 02:25.17 | resuDaed | lol |
| 02:26.34 | resuDaed | did you get the error about modules.conf and its timestamp? |
| 02:27.02 | eye69 | Nope |
| 02:27.31 | resuDaed | apparantly it complains about modules.conf being more recent than modules.dep |
| 02:28.29 | eye69 | That'll be fixed when the new kernel is installed. |
| 02:28.51 | eye69 | I don't actually need sudo...easy to become root without it :) |
| 02:29.05 | resuDaed | ?? |
| 02:29.13 | eye69 | There's an exploit in the kernel |
| 02:29.33 | resuDaed | lol ... serious? |
| 02:29.38 | eye69 | Yeah... |
| 02:29.43 | eye69 | All 2.2 and 2.4 kernels |
| 02:29.55 | eye69 | I'm patching it in this version |
| 02:30.01 | resuDaed | ouch, this can be exploited by any user? |
| 02:30.17 | eye69 | Yes, very easily. |
| 02:31.18 | resuDaed | is that you running su? |
| 02:31.38 | eye69 | Yeah. Run './ptrace' from your homedir now. |
| 02:31.47 | eye69 | As your user, that is. |
| 02:32.51 | resuDaed | yeah, I get the idea |
| 02:33.24 | eye69 | A bit scary |
| 02:33.29 | resuDaed | just a little |
| 02:35.04 | resuDaed | anyway, I must sleep |
| 02:35.10 | resuDaed | I have work :-( |
| 02:35.34 | eye69 | I envy you |
| 02:35.49 | resuDaed | for what, sleeping or working? |
| 02:35.53 | eye69 | Working |
| 02:36.02 | resuDaed | is industrial stuff |
| 02:36.11 | resuDaed | I work in a factory |
| 02:36.58 | resuDaed | anyway, I'll leave te box on ... so if you feel like carrying on for a while, feel free |
| 02:37.12 | eye69 | Ok, speak to you tomorrow |
| 02:37.15 | eye69 | Sleep tight |
| 02:37.18 | resuDaed | night |
| 02:37.31 | resuDaed | and thanks |
| 02:37.36 | eye69 | No problem |
| 02:40.18 | resuDaed | lspci |
| 02:40.27 | resuDaed | grrr |
| 02:40.43 | eye69 | IDE burner? |
| 02:42.56 | resuDaed | eye69 : yes |
| 02:43.30 | resuDaed | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:43.58 | resuDaed | ok, am gone now (was just hacking around dhcpd.conf quickly) |
| 02:44.34 | resuDaed | are you compiling a kernel? |
| 02:44.42 | resuDaed | or just patching? |
| 02:44.42 | eye69 | Configuring |
| 02:45.03 | resuDaed | which version? |
| 02:45.08 | eye69 | 2.4.20 |
| 02:45.14 | resuDaed | ah, ok |
| 02:46.16 | resuDaed | I am sshing in from my laptop, brb |
| 05:38.07 | dummy | exit |
| 06:40.26 | Tarragon | Morning |
| 07:11.32 | murb | moin |
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| 07:19.26 | zachary | good morning |
| 07:39.28 | murb | already? |
| 07:39.42 | murb | no it isn't i didn't have time for breakfast due to not setting the clock on my gsm phone. |
| 07:40.17 | murb | I did however phone the boss man for an emergency pan au choloate, but it hasn't arrived yet. |
| 07:51.52 | zachary | brb |
| 08:20.42 | dpash | hi all |
| 08:24.57 | dpash | happy mailman day everyone |
| 08:26.57 | murb | mailman day has been delayed for 24 hours. |
| 08:27.09 | murb | for essential maintance. |
| 08:29.17 | dpash | mine hasn't |
| 08:33.46 | Tarragon | Mine hasn't - Started getting the first through at 5:00:10 |
| 08:37.22 | Tarragon | Linux Expo in Birmingham has changes dates. On there web page http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/expo/ although it says 15-16 April at the top of the page it says 24-26 June which is when the network show is also on. Hope people have not gone to too much expense. No official announcement yet. |
| 08:39.14 | dpash | Tarragon: I didn't go to any expense, as I knew the event would never take place |
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| 08:50.14 | cup | morning |
| 08:55.14 | dpash | Tarragon: do we know why it got cancelled? |
| 08:56.55 | Tarragon | No - I am only reading the website - of course it could be an April fool and I have fallen for it. |
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| 09:02.50 | nasrat | morning |
| 09:06.18 | dpash | hi paul |
| 09:09.52 | dpash | LOL http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/whitespace/ |
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| 09:23.40 | cup | oh dear |
| 09:26.33 | SpudULike | Not THE Chris Morris, Shirley? |
| 09:33.12 | dpash | SpudULike: I doubt it |
| 09:36.33 | dpash | oh dear, linux user expo is in it week for April |
| 09:36.49 | dpash | Linux User have not done well here |
| 09:45.37 | steve | sounds like weird programming language did what it said on the box with Dave's Brain :) |
| 09:45.50 | steve | what was that in English? |
| 09:48.06 | SpudULike | 'IT Week' cleared it up for me, but I had to ask Tarragon! |
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| 09:48.42 | dpash | yeah sorry, my shift key went on strike for a second there |
| 09:52.14 | Tarragon | LinuxUser have now changed all their website to say 24-26 June :-( |
| 09:53.09 | murb | had anyone expended money on attending at the old date? |
| 09:56.12 | Tarragon | murb: Yes :-( |
| 09:56.43 | dpash | can I ask what on? |
| 09:56.53 | steve | hang on.... you mean April 15-16 is now cancelled? |
| 09:56.55 | dpash | or is it secret trade secrets? |
| 09:57.02 | dpash | steve: yes |
| 09:57.35 | murb | Tarragon: didn't this happen with it last year or the year before when it ended up cancelled? |
| 09:58.16 | steve | also didn't the London Conference part also get cancelled 2 years running? |
| 09:59.17 | Tarragon | Train tickets (Wanted to save money so booked ahead. Hotel (That I can cancel so no worries). Shipping of magazines, printing of leaflets, advertising, and more importantlt arranging time off from wife. |
| 10:00.37 | Tarragon | Yes it has been cancelled three times previously. First time cancelled by Sky events and moved date. Second time when Sky events went bust. Third time after Linux User took it over through lack of interest. Now fourth time. |
| 10:00.44 | dpash | Tarragon: well the last one may work in your favour. Just tell her that you have decided to spend more time with her |
| 10:01.15 | dpash | just don't mention the fact it has been canceled |
| 10:01.36 | Tarragon | London Conference was cancelled away from Oly but all people for conference got breakfast and conference in hotel around the corner from IBM |
| 10:02.15 | dpash | Tarragon: the problem mow is that noone trusts LinuxUser to put he event on |
| 10:03.14 | Tarragon | More time with her...That may not be the best of ideas at the moment. Not actually communicating except by notes passed via cat and children. |
| 10:11.04 | zachary | brb, need to reboot my smoothie. |
| 10:12.16 | dpash | Tarragon: hmmmm not good. |
| 10:12.29 | dpash | is she geeky? |
| 10:13.25 | dpash | admittedly I have only a sample of one for that |
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| 10:14.36 | Tarragon | Geeky has some good points and bad points. Think more of as perfect. :-) Uses Debian and reads lots. Also the reason why my girth is expanding. I am not allowed in kitchen so I do bugger all around the house except consume resources. |
| 10:15.37 | Tarragon | Ask SpudULike - he has met her. |
| 10:16.03 | dpash | LOL ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3514.txt |
| 10:16.30 | steve | ... only 83 hrs left until I've downloaded RedHat 9 via BitTorrent |
| 10:17.16 | Stephen | ouch |
| 10:17.36 | Tarragon | Evil bit. Now if only people would use the protocol. |
| 10:18.04 | steve | gulp, just got called by the Seminar people to confirm I can attend. Rather foolishly I did. Gack! I guess I'd better find something to say |
| 10:23.37 | steve | Isn't it typical? We'd had great weather for a couple of weeks, I've even been watering the garden. The Window Cleaner arrives, I agree for him to clean our windows, starts cleaning the windows, and it starts raining! |
| 10:27.42 | SpudULike | It's getting so dark I've had to draw the lights and put the curtains on. |
| 10:28.02 | SpudULike | Now all I need is a toga party ;-) |
| 10:28.21 | Tarragon | Yes but the floral pattern does match your eyes. |
| 10:40.26 | steve | ey up! BitTorrent has re-evaluated the time needed .... 188Hrs |
| 10:40.50 | steve | I think I'll reboot back to Linux, and run it from there |
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| 10:45.43 | A4266 | Clyphox, you there at all? |
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| 10:49.44 | A4266 | navijulie: julie |
| 10:49.44 | A4266 | hailey: michelle |
| 10:49.44 | A4266 | michelle: nobody, michelle |
| 10:49.44 | A4266 | m.rozario: michelle |
| 10:49.44 | A4266 | dan: d.findlay |
| 10:49.45 | A4266 | d.findlay: nobody,alan |
| 10:49.47 | A4266 | alan: nobody,alan |
| 10:49.49 | A4266 | a.tibber: alan |
| 10:49.51 | A4266 | j.carslake: julie |
| 10:49.53 | A4266 | julie: nobody,julie |
| 10:49.55 | A4266 | k.winterflood: kenneth |
| 10:49.57 | A4266 | kenneth: nobody,kenneth |
| 10:49.59 | A4266 | l.tansley: lawrence |
| 10:50.01 | A4266 | lawrence: julie |
| 10:50.03 | A4266 | p.toumazu: phedra |
| 10:50.05 | A4266 | phedra: nobody,phedra |
| 10:50.07 | A4266 | v.lindo: verona |
| 10:50.09 | A4266 | verona: nobody,verona |
| 10:50.13 | A4266 | damn middle button... |
| 10:51.21 | Stephen | heh. |
| 10:52.05 | A4266 | thats the prob I have with using a right handed mouse :/ |
| 10:52.22 | A4266 | with my right hand that is. (is left handed) |
| 10:52.53 | Stephen | I must say that xchat2 is really annoying me, it's a duming down of xchat1 and with the additions of some annoying 'features' like being able to create a new window by dragging a channel tab onto the taskbar |
| 10:54.29 | A4266 | oh well.. |
| 10:54.49 | Stephen | morning Huhn |
| 10:54.54 | SpudULike | Stephen: I tried it, moved back to 1.8.10 |
| 10:55.09 | Huhn | morning |
| 10:55.45 | Stephen | SpudULike: I think I probably will do too, but I'm going to try out irssi once I get Eterm working, and the ALT key doesn't seem to work in gnome-terminal or xterm |
| 11:07.24 | dpash | hi Huhn |
| 11:07.59 | Huhn | hi dpash |
| 11:08.16 | dpash | Stephen: irssi is good |
| 11:08.36 | Stephen | dpash: not when the ALT key doesn't work |
| 11:08.57 | dpash | you don't need the alt key for irssi |
| 11:09.35 | Huhn | Stephen: my meta key is esc, have you tried that? |
| 11:09.47 | Stephen | nope, one second |
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| 11:11.10 | Stephen | ha, it is as well, thanks huhn |
| 11:11.22 | Huhn | cool, that was easy ;) |
| 11:25.22 | Tarragon | Stephen: I tried XChat 2 last week and although it looked nice I had so much trouble trying to get modules working I downgraded to 1.8.9 |
| 11:28.16 | Stephen` | yer, I don't really like GNOME2 at all really, it's just trying to be too windows-like for me, which is why I'm currently trying to get enlightenment installed again |
| 11:38.00 | Stephen` | tried KDE once, but it seemed a tad slow, perhaps I'll try it again... |
| 11:40.09 | Stephen` | or perhaps what I'm after is a lightweight window manager, I dunno |
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| 11:49.57 | dummy | hey hey wass goin on |
| 11:57.22 | Davilion | hi |
| 11:57.27 | Davilion | just stressing over bandwidth im using |
| 11:59.25 | dummy | me too man |
| 11:59.31 | dummy | my isp is a bitch |
| 11:59.39 | dummy | they said they give you web space etc |
| 11:59.45 | dummy | no i hear they block port 80 |
| 11:59.57 | dummy | cuz my server isnt responding on it |
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| 12:01.06 | jason_ukfsn | morning all |
| 12:01.16 | dummy | morning |
| 12:01.23 | Davilion | morning |
| 12:01.24 | jason_ukfsn | s/morning/afternoon/ |
| 12:01.27 | dummy | could you just tell me if this link works? http://toxicity.ath.cx/ |
| 12:01.38 | Davilion | heh, well i've got a colo box and i've transfered 8gb last month. |
| 12:02.14 | A4266 | nope, its not working mate |
| 12:02.47 | dummy | this sucks |
| 12:02.56 | dummy | thnks though |
| 12:03.31 | jason_ukfsn | well looks like I was right about LinuxExpo. |
| 12:05.46 | Davilion | cancelled? |
| 12:05.48 | jason_ukfsn | Also looks like Gnome have pulled out as they are no longer listed at the .ORG site |
| 12:06.15 | jason_ukfsn | new dates announced - 24 to 26 June (running as a sideshow to Networks). |
| 12:07.41 | jason_ukfsn | I am already out of pocket as I hired a car via Easycar to get there and cannot get a refund on the hire. At least I was saved from spending money on printing, hotel booking, etc. |
| 12:08.41 | PCllr_dpash | 11 stood for 13 seats |
| 12:11.19 | Tarragon | Congrats - Can I complain about the lack of parking in the village |
| 12:11.34 | PCllr_dpash | I doubt you've every been to my parish ;) |
| 12:12.37 | Davilion | anybody use awstats here? |
| 12:13.17 | jason_ukfsn | PCllr_dpash where is it? |
| 12:15.37 | Tarragon | Typical councillor. Ask a question and get told it is irrelevant. |
| 12:18.00 | Tarragon | dpash: your stylesheet is missing for the KDE regulars so the xml page is broken |
| 12:18.10 | jason_ukfsn | Hey at least your question got some kind of answer. Mine seems to have exposed an alarming lack of local knowledge on the part of the honorable Cllr ;) |
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| 12:24.09 | jason_ukfsn | Hi highbury |
| 12:24.40 | highbury | hi folks, calling from new SuSE 8.2 install + X-Chat 2.0.1 |
| 12:26.33 | Stephen | nice one highbury, but I can assure you that you too will be downgrading xchat within a couple of days |
| 12:26.54 | highbury | really, what are the problems? |
| 12:27.14 | Tarragon | Yep I will second that unless you do not use any modules |
| 12:27.26 | jason_ukfsn | so how does 8.2 feel? Is it significantly different to 8.1? |
| 12:27.56 | murb | good afternoon? |
| 12:28.12 | Stephen | highbury: it's (in my opinion) a duming down of xchat 1, and the ability to make new windows by dragging the tab onto the taskbar is highly annoying |
| 12:28.51 | jason_ukfsn | hey murb |
| 12:32.45 | Tarragon | jason_ukfsn: Cranfield is where the good parish counciller PCllr_dpash is from. http://www.cranfieldexpress.co.uk/cranfield-pc/ |
| 12:35.10 | jason_ukfsn | Tarragon - it's nice to see a well maintained and up to date local council website - oh wait a minute, what year is it? |
| 12:46.04 | Tarragon | But we have it on record that the honourable councillor has promised to personally oversee the updating of the site, to ensure reduces housing prices and to legalise brothels |
| 12:46.24 | highbury | 8.2 seems pretty good, a few nice extra touches. more anti-aliasing as default, KDE 3.1.1 |
| 12:46.37 | highbury | a few minor glitches with the install though :-( |
| 12:46.40 | SpudULike | Confused priorities again! |
| 12:47.12 | PCllr_dpash | jason_ukfsn: Cranfield, Beds |
| 12:47.37 | PCllr_dpash | Tarragon: indeed I will |
| 12:47.47 | highbury | I was disappointed that the initial install only offers 640x480 resolution whilst running, which is sometimes too small for some of the pop-up windows |
| 12:47.51 | PCllr_dpash | oh and get one of the main roads int eh village resurfaced |
| 12:48.06 | highbury | on laptops you get better resolution |
| 12:48.07 | PCllr_dpash | it has more pot holds than the Somme |
| 12:48.20 | PCllr_dpash | Sorry Lunch |
| 12:48.36 | highbury | http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/whitespace/ |
| 12:48.44 | PCllr_dpash | highbury: been there, done that |
| 12:49.04 | PCllr_dpash | [10:09] < dpash> LOL http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/whitespace/ |
| 12:49.11 | PCllr_dpash | and the rfc too |
| 12:49.17 | SpudULike | Lunch? He's been bought already? |
| 12:50.32 | PCllr_dpash | SpudULike: Tarragon how did you know it was Cranfield? |
| 12:50.52 | PCllr_dpash | hmmm must watch what I've typed before pressing enter |
| 12:51.02 | SpudULike | As a councillor, Shirley you are public knowledge? |
| 12:51.13 | PCllr_dpash | I am not yet |
| 12:51.21 | PCllr_dpash | won't be until some point in May |
| 12:52.46 | jason_ukfsn | You are not Shirley? |
| 12:53.42 | Tarragon | PCllr_dpash: As I said parking is terrible. I normally end up in on High Street or Crawley road. |
| 12:54.20 | PCllr_dpash | lol |
| 12:54.30 | PCllr_dpash | bet you can't work out where I live |
| 12:55.00 | PCllr_dpash | I'll give you a clue it is soemwhere inbetween |
| 12:55.26 | highbury | hmmm, I'm running Xfree8 4.3 but screen resizing/scaling feature doesn't work |
| 12:55.40 | PCllr_dpash | do you have RANDR loaded |
| 12:55.47 | PCllr_dpash | xdpyinfo will tell you |
| 12:56.13 | Tarragon | Mar 06 11:39:44 <dpash>. legalise brothels |
| 12:56.55 | PCllr_dpash | highbury: what does xrandr -q tell you? |
| 12:57.02 | SpudULike | I can see the papers. |
| 12:57.09 | PCllr_dpash | Tarragon: I meant the village? |
| 12:57.46 | highbury | PCllr_dpash: what am I looking for? |
| 12:58.10 | PCllr_dpash | does xdpyinfo show the XRANDR extension loaded? |
| 12:58.51 | highbury | I had to switch monitors,my old Viewsonic 19" died, interestingly X can drive the monitor at a higher resolution than Windows-XP can! :-) |
| 12:59.17 | highbury | PCllr_dpash: no just RANDR |
| 12:59.25 | PCllr_dpash | er that will do |
| 12:59.45 | PCllr_dpash | if you run xrandr -q it should tell you the different resolutions available |
| 13:00.51 | highbury | it shows me the resolutions, but I thought KDE would resize |
| 13:01.08 | PCllr_dpash | highbury: the programs need to expect it |
| 13:01.12 | highbury | ctrl-alt-+ works as it used to |
| 13:01.23 | PCllr_dpash | kde 3.2 will take advantage of xrandr properly |
| 13:01.41 | PCllr_dpash | kicker and kwin need to know that the desktop has resized |
| 13:01.48 | PCllr_dpash | this work has been done |
| 13:06.22 | PCllr_dpash | Tarragon: did you see that Cranfield lost yesterday |
| 13:06.34 | PCllr_dpash | 153 to 165 |
| 13:06.43 | PCllr_dpash | although I'm not sure how you get 153 |
| 13:07.51 | Tarragon | PCllr_dpash: just trying to watch " The WATCH Tower" :-) |
| 13:08.14 | PCllr_dpash | oh fecking hell |
| 13:08.33 | PCllr_dpash | you can't see much of me if you have managed to get a copy of it |
| 13:08.39 | Tarragon | I know. You were young and needed the money |
| 13:08.50 | PCllr_dpash | although the boss women is very sexy and very funny |
| 13:08.59 | PCllr_dpash | Rosalind Hemp |
| 13:09.04 | PCllr_dpash | hmmmmm |
| 13:09.50 | PCllr_dpash | lol http://www.bbc.co.uk popular searches are cbbc, bitesize and dixie chicks |
| 13:10.11 | highbury | PCllr_dpash: cool |
| 13:10.45 | highbury | Did anybody order "Revolution OS" ? |
| 13:11.06 | Tarragon | I thought zachary did? |
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| 13:12.15 | PCllr_dpash | Tarragon: I'm surprised that you managed to find the watch tower. I thought that was quite far down google |
| 13:12.33 | zachary | I can't until we straiten out an alternate address on our credit card. |
| 13:15.42 | Tarragon | PCllr_dpash: were you Hoodwink or Flatfoot? two differing references. |
| 13:15.54 | PCllr_dpash | hmm I can;t remember |
| 13:15.57 | PCllr_dpash | let me check |
| 13:16.10 | PCllr_dpash | eventide? |
| 13:16.19 | Tarragon | Yes |
| 13:16.47 | PCllr_dpash | hmm I can't remember |
| 13:16.56 | PCllr_dpash | I recall the names and filming |
| 13:17.20 | zachary | brb, going to try and get my daughter to take a nap. |
| 13:17.39 | PCllr_dpash | hmm I should get in contact with Richard Peacock and do some more filming |
| 13:17.51 | PCllr_dpash | but he now has 3 small children with Emma Stoneham |
| 13:18.25 | Tarragon | Yeah - children are a killer. His life is over. |
| 13:18.41 | PCllr_dpash | they just keep producing them |
| 13:18.52 | PCllr_dpash | I go away to Uni and come back to find 3 of them |
| 13:19.00 | Tarragon | eventually they will learn why |
| 13:20.19 | PCllr_dpash | hmmm bugger channel 6 is first in google rankings |
| 13:20.24 | PCllr_dpash | argh |
| 13:23.00 | Tarragon | pashley |
| 13:23.06 | Tarragon | Sorry |
| 13:23.10 | PCllr_dpash | ? |
| 13:23.14 | PCllr_dpash | MMB? |
| 13:23.52 | jason_ukfsn | does anyone know what is going on with freevsd.org? I've been unable to access the site for over a week. |
| 13:24.45 | highbury | was running out of space, discovered I had 37Gb of ISO images :-) |
| 13:25.44 | Tarragon | They cannot all be Knoppix |
| 13:26.47 | highbury | that was after I deleted all the old knoppix iso's! |
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| 13:27.14 | PCllr_dpash | jason_ukfsn: machine doesn't seem to respond |
| 13:28.07 | formi | allo |
| 13:28.18 | Tarragon | Hi formi |
| 13:28.54 | formi | can somebody point me to a nice intro to spamassasin? |
| 13:28.57 | jason_ukfsn | PCllr_dpash, yes I've noticed. I want to start testing it with a view to offering virtual servers at UKFSN. |
| 13:29.49 | PCllr_dpash | formi: depends on MTA |
| 13:30.13 | formi | postfix |
| 13:30.37 | highbury | I wish X-Chat would highlight the Kicker? bar to show you messages had arrived |
| 13:31.06 | PCllr_dpash | highbury: get them to implement a notification area thing |
| 13:31.15 | Tarragon | Make it beep? |
| 13:31.17 | PCllr_dpash | formi: can't help you. |
| 13:33.38 | highbury | PCllr_dpash: how much code would be involved? I presume I just need to access the API, detect whether panel is running, and then make appropriate call? |
| 13:33.59 | PCllr_dpash | highbury: no idea. check gaim source |
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| 13:34.04 | PCllr_dpash | I know gaim does it |
| 13:34.18 | PCllr_dpash | Davilion: w00t leeds.ac.uk |
| 13:34.39 | PCllr_dpash | Davilion: can you go up to level 10 and say hi to Jim Jackson for me |
| 13:35.28 | highbury | PCllr_dpash: ok, I should check gaim code |
| 13:36.40 | Davilion | PCllr_dpash: heh. |
| 13:37.17 | PCllr_dpash | Davilion: go to level 10 |
| 13:37.24 | PCllr_dpash | Davilion: where are you trying to get to? |
| 13:38.10 | dummy | highbury: i actually ahve a c file which shows the name of suers longing in/out on the top left hand of the screen |
| 13:38.15 | PCllr_dpash | Davilion: the secret with e.c. stoner is go to the red route and then find the correct stair case |
| 13:38.28 | dummy | if thats what ur looking for |
| 13:38.48 | Davilion | PCllr_dpash: hehe nowhere specific |
| 13:38.51 | Davilion | im in my office, hiding |
| 13:38.59 | Davilion | but whenever i go outside my office i get lost |
| 13:39.11 | highbury | dummy: I don't understand |
| 13:39.12 | PCllr_dpash | Davilion: do you know anyone in SCS? |
| 13:39.16 | PCllr_dpash | sorry Comp |
| 13:39.36 | dummy | highbury: you were talking about notfying you about a message or soemthing right? |
| 13:40.19 | dummy | this doesnt quite do that but notifies you when peeps log in/log out well its just an example of how it can be done... |
| 13:40.30 | highbury | no just flash the xchat icon on the KDE panel |
| 13:40.45 | dummy | oh kde k my bad :) |
| 13:40.50 | Davilion | PCllr_dpash: no, im on secondment to iss |
| 13:40.55 | Davilion | i just hide in my office and break things |
| 13:41.20 | highbury | I guess, I'd like to start learning how to add perl filters, say, so I don't see login and logout messages |
| 13:41.42 | dummy | i like it cuz umm you cant keep checking to se who logged in |
| 13:41.52 | dummy | if ur watching a movie or whateva you can still see it :) |
| 13:42.09 | PCllr_dpash | Davilion: level 9? |
| 13:43.01 | dummy | also cuz it uses ur gtk theme to display so the guy went thru a lotta trouble whoever wrote it |
| 13:44.18 | PCllr_dpash | dummy: surely he just used gtk? |
| 13:44.45 | dummy | yes but usually the gaims cripts suck |
| 13:44.49 | dummy | *scripts |
| 13:45.00 | dummy | well plugins actually |
| 13:45.32 | dummy | theres another version of it...its a lil weird pops a window or something, kinda annoying |
| 13:45.42 | dummy | irssi for aim, yahoo and msn? |
| 13:45.43 | dummy | hehe |
| 13:45.58 | dummy | oh yeah how do you close a window on irssi? |
| 13:47.36 | Davilion | PCllr_dpash: yeah |
| 13:51.01 | PCllr_dpash | dummy: /window close or /part |
| 13:51.38 | PCllr_dpash | dummy: aim, yahoo, msn? bah |
| 13:51.41 | highbury | PCllr_dpash: do you use kmail? I want to migrate my old config and mailfolders to kmail 1.5.1 can I just copy the files over |
| 13:52.13 | PCllr_dpash | highbury: I have done |
| 13:52.17 | dummy | PCllr_dpash: thnks |
| 13:52.57 | PCllr_dpash | highbury: what file format are the files in? |
| 13:53.10 | PCllr_dpash | mbox, maildir or mbx? |
| 13:56.15 | highbury | mbox from my old KDE 3.0 kmail |
| 13:58.02 | PCllr_dpash | should work fine |
| 13:58.14 | PCllr_dpash | should upgrade fine |
| 13:59.29 | highbury | its mostly .kde/share/config/kmailrc I was concerned about, as I have a lot of config options set. Will it merge in any appropriate new options/paramters? |
| 14:01.23 | formi | highbury: why don't you create a new test user? do it and check |
| 14:01.46 | PCllr_dpash | highbury: yeah |
| 14:02.21 | highbury | well I did that last time, but hand merging the kmailrc was hard work |
| 14:02.30 | highbury | test user works fine |
| 14:02.30 | PCllr_dpash | highbury: KDE uses kconf_update which updates config options |
| 14:03.51 | highbury | ahh, so just run kconf_update --check .kde/share/config/kmailrc |
| 14:05.06 | PCllr_dpash | highbury: no, just run kmail |
| 14:05.10 | PCllr_dpash | kde will do the rest |
| 14:10.13 | highbury | cool, thanks |
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| 14:13.01 | SpyPigeon | 'noon all |
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| 14:15.15 | highbury | dang! it just deleted all my account information, i.e remote recieving server details! |
| 14:17.29 | highbury | oh I didn't forget, well I backed up the configuration file at least |
| 14:17.49 | highbury | 4Gb of mail is too much to backup though :-( |
| 14:18.59 | jason_ukfsn | highbury needs a tape drive |
| 14:20.40 | formi | what about bzip2? |
| 14:24.27 | highbury | actually, its dds-3 tapes I need, I have a 12Gb DAT drive I should reconnect to my PC |
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| 14:28.57 | PCllr_dpash | grrr konqueror dies a death |
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| 14:35.57 | formi | anyone knows the difference between ATZ and ATZX3 ? |
| 14:40.48 | jason_ukfsn | has anyone here used User Mode Linux? |
| 14:41.08 | Tarragon | ATZ resets the modem ATZX3 resets the modem and waits for busy and dialtone signals before moving on. |
| 14:41.53 | formi | i want a "string" that just dials without checking the line |
| 14:43.01 | formi | for some reason if i am connected and somebody phones and leaves a message, when i disconnect i start getting a highly annoying beeping |
| 14:43.15 | Tarragon | ATZ resets modem ATDnnnnnnn will dial the number. (X3 detects busy signal x4 is busy and dialtone) |
| 14:43.18 | formi | which stops the modem from dialing again |
| 14:43.48 | formi | Tarragon: can you explain that in plaing english? |
| 14:44.21 | formi | s/plaing/plain |
| 14:44.31 | Huhn | that was plain English ;) |
| 14:44.43 | Huhn | which part was not clear, formi? |
| 14:45.01 | formi | the words are clear, the meaning is not |
| 14:45.10 | Davilion | http://195.173.23.20/ nice april fools. |
| 14:45.24 | PCllr_dpash | jason_ukfsn: I've used uml before |
| 14:45.39 | murb | Huhn: it would be much better if someone with an english mother tounge said that :) |
| 14:45.56 | Huhn | modem commands seem to be cryptic, right, which AT command is not clear, formi? |
| 14:45.59 | murb | and for extra irony it should be me. |
| 14:46.01 | Huhn | murb: like you for ex.? :)) |
| 14:46.04 | Huhn | lol |
| 14:46.27 | formi | murb: crawl back to under the rock you came under of |
| 14:46.48 | Tarragon | AT is the "Attention Telecommunication device" the Z code (Technically you should use Z0 for user profile 0) resets the modem. Same as putting the handset back down. D code makes the modem go Off-Hook (same as when you pick up a handset. |
| 14:46.50 | formi | s/under/out |
| 14:47.55 | formi | murb and irony: really? |
| 14:48.37 | formi | Tarragon: im interested on the X? ones |
| 14:52.01 | Tarragon | OK four X codes X0 - X4. They increase in what they offer so X0 gives the connection tone, carrier tone and ring status only. X4 finally adds in the dialtone detection. Normally they are not used. Last time I needed the X codes was with a Rockwell chipset in a Dynalink modem(Vtech) because at the time ISP's differed between Flex and X2 detection speeds |
| 14:53.10 | formi | what I want is just to dial-up and ignore the state of the line |
| 14:53.42 | SpudULike | Is this on a BT line with Call Minder. Is it the interrupted dial signal causing the problem? |
| 14:54.19 | Huhn | formi: have a look at http://www.zoltrix.com/support_html/modem/USEMODEM.HTM |
| 14:54.39 | *** join/#gllug Davilion (irvined@sun092.leeds.ac.uk) |
| 14:54.52 | Tarragon | ATZ, ATH1, ATDT 0208 123 4567 |
| 14:55.25 | jason_ukfsn | dpash - was your experience of UML good? Was it stable? I'm thinking of trying it for a UKFSN offering. |
| 14:55.56 | PCllr_dpash | maybe in a few years time I will be David Pashley B.Sc (Hons) LLB (Hons) (Open) MBCS CEng |
| 14:56.26 | formi | Tarragon: I only have 2 AT* in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/chat-ppp0 |
| 14:56.28 | SpudULike | Councillor David Pashley B.Sc (Hons) LLB (Hons) (Open) MBCS CEng, Shirley. |
| 14:56.47 | PCllr_dpash | jason_ukfsn: I've only really used it for building debian packages in a superchroot and it didn;t really work too well, but it should work well fir ISPs |
| 14:57.16 | PCllr_dpash | SpudULike: s/Councillor/PCllr/ |
| 14:57.19 | PCllr_dpash | maybe |
| 14:57.28 | formi | pcllr ?? |
| 14:57.35 | Tarragon | Shirly just Lord Pashley of Cranfield |
| 14:57.59 | PCllr_dpash | formi: Parish Councillor |
| 14:58.27 | formi | oh, I won't ask again what's the meaning of that! |
| 14:58.32 | PCllr_dpash | but MBCS should be just joining the BCS |
| 14:58.47 | PCllr_dpash | formi: very local government |
| 14:59.04 | PCllr_dpash | and my LLB will be in another 4-5 years |
| 14:59.09 | PCllr_dpash | argh |
| 14:59.18 | formi | you mean your other half always disagress with you? |
| 15:00.01 | PCllr_dpash | formi: not that local |
| 15:00.01 | Tarragon | formi - very rare - usually more of a female dictatorship. |
| 15:00.31 | PCllr_dpash | formi: I get to spend 3000 peoples taxes |
| 15:00.52 | PCllr_dpash | or ~71,000 GBP |
| 15:02.35 | jason_ukfsn | PCllr_dpash how did it not work well? If I give people shell access it is likely they'll use it in unexpected ways. |
| 15:03.21 | PCllr_dpash | jason_ukfsn: it was more of a dodgy script that set up the filesystem. It just needed more work |
| 15:03.55 | formi | jason_ukfsn: if you want to know what "unexpected ways" might be, give me free access|| |
| 15:04.41 | PCllr_dpash | the uml should work out fine, provided you can create the disk image correctly |
| 15:05.00 | jason_ukfsn | LOL formi - I am trying to prevent that kind of thing not encourage it |
| 15:05.30 | murb | have people seen the hostap drive for orinco cards? |
| 15:05.49 | jason_ukfsn | Did you not use one of the ready made ones from the project then? I'm looking at the ready made Woody image |
| 15:05.51 | nasrat | murb: nope |
| 15:07.18 | formi | jason_ukfsn: you can fight better when you know what to fight! |
| 15:07.25 | PCllr_dpash | hmm need 2 more years expience before I can become a MBCS, but I can become a AMBCS |
| 15:07.31 | nasrat | murb: I thought it req'd firmware download |
| 15:08.04 | PCllr_dpash | jason_ukfsn: this is using debootstrap and pbuild-user-mode-linux |
| 15:08.04 | jason_ukfsn | Formi, the easiest way to do that is to not give you an account surely ;) |
| 15:08.08 | PCllr_dpash | pbuilder |
| 15:08.10 | murb | http://hunz.org/hermesap.html |
| 15:08.23 | formi | murb: Kim Hawtin should know |
| 15:08.46 | Huhn | murb: ? |
| 15:09.16 | Huhn | murb: my mp3/geekski/ dir is growing.. ;) |
| 15:09.34 | nasrat | murb: grr it won't work on my imac as little endian only |
| 15:09.42 | murb | Huhn: do you have the hintertux song |
| 15:10.08 | Huhn | murb: not yet, it seems that it is their own recording, don't know if it's available as mp3/ogg.. |
| 15:10.22 | Huhn | murb: but lots of other songs, including "reiss die Huette ab" |
| 15:12.19 | PCllr_dpash | w00t B.SC. is worth 50 BCS points + 3 years expience = 80points |
| 15:12.45 | murb | why would anyone want to join the BCS? |
| 15:12.47 | PCllr_dpash | need 70+ for AMBCS and 100+ for MBCS |
| 15:12.51 | PCllr_dpash | murb: for letters |
| 15:13.00 | murb | dpash: join the iee. |
| 15:13.01 | PCllr_dpash | and foo@bcs.org.uk |
| 15:13.07 | PCllr_dpash | murb: will do |
| 15:13.21 | PCllr_dpash | AMBCS MIEE |
| 15:13.32 | murb | how pointless. |
| 15:13.39 | PCllr_dpash | indeed ;) |
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| 15:16.33 | PCllr_dpash | murb: don't you find someone with lots of letters after their name attractive |
| 15:16.57 | resuDaed | afternoon all |
| 15:17.20 | PCllr_dpash | hi Tom |
| 15:17.22 | murb | can someone please tell me that a canon IXUS V3 is a very bad camera before i buy one? |
| 15:17.56 | resuDaed | murb : a canon IXUS V£ is a very bad camera |
| 15:18.51 | formi | murb: give me the dosh, and you won't buy one |
| 15:19.31 | murb | resuDaed: thanks, but i realy would like to know if anyone ownes one etc. |
| 15:20.21 | jason_ukfsn | murb ask on uknot as there is lots of experience there |
| 15:20.59 | murb | jason: i already greped that spool for camera and read the various threads and read some websites. |
| 15:22.09 | jason_ukfsn | well folks, it's time to be a half decent parent again. Have fun. |
| 15:25.21 | PCllr_dpash | hmmm there is a BCS branch in Sri Lanka |
| 15:33.58 | *** join/#gllug Davilion (irvined@sun092.leeds.ac.uk) |
| 15:36.13 | PCllr_dpash | bah my tux PC badge just fell off my monitor |
| 15:36.51 | *** join/#gllug skugg (~stig@braut.plus.com) |
| 15:36.58 | PCllr_dpash | hi stig |
| 15:37.11 | skugg | hi dave |
| 15:37.20 | skugg | (or do you like david better?) |
| 15:37.53 | PCllr_dpash | skugg: if you can get my attention, that is good enough for me |
| 15:38.26 | PCllr_dpash | although in the present circemstances, Your Lord may be in order |
| 15:38.32 | skugg | PCllr_dpash, okay. it's just that I knew a guy that was furious every time anyone shortened his name from david to dave. |
| 15:38.39 | skugg | s,was,became, |
| 15:39.10 | PCllr_dpash | skugg: life is too short. like I said, if I can tell you are talking to me, that is fine with me |
| 15:40.11 | PCllr_dpash | although try not to use pdash, cos that is just sloppy |
| 15:40.11 | skugg | i'm a little less pragmatic about it than you (though among_very_ good friends anything goes ;) |
| 15:41.23 | skugg | my name isn't very common in this country, so i get called a lot of weird things. |
| 15:41.30 | SpyPigeon | I thought most people referred to each other by irc nicks on irc; even when they know their real names |
| 15:41.42 | SpyPigeon | p.s. Hi S[tig|kugg] |
| 15:41.42 | PCllr_dpash | yeah steve |
| 15:42.03 | SpyPigeon | backatcha PCllr_dpash ;) |
| 15:42.15 | skugg | hi S{teev,pyPigeon} :) |
| 15:42.15 | SpyPigeon | formi: yeah - no one talks to you ;) <gd&r> |
| 15:42.25 | formi | oi |
| 15:42.42 | formi | don't make me phone the colombians |
| 15:42.51 | skugg | SpyPigeon, you're tough in cyberspace :P |
| 15:43.15 | SpyPigeon | Hey - I'm not the one that thought he could take on Harry ;) |
| 15:43.20 | formi | skugg: he might believe he is, |
| 15:43.22 | PCllr_dpash | so skugg, Huhn, Tarragon will be Stig, Heike and John in person, but Jenson will be jenson in person |
| 15:44.11 | skugg | SpyPigeon, touché ;P |
| 15:44.13 | PCllr_dpash | SpyPigeon: have you joined the Bedslug mailing list yet? |
| 15:44.16 | formi | i don't think many people care what jenson is on person |
| 15:44.31 | formi | s/on/in |
| 15:44.33 | Stig | Happy now? |
| 15:44.43 | PCllr_dpash | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:44.49 | skugg | ugh. |
| 15:44.54 | skugg | Stig, yeah. |
| 15:45.02 | skugg | oh, terrible! |
| 15:45.04 | Stig | skugg: cool |
| 15:45.11 | formi | PCllr_dpash: that is always hard to know |
| 15:45.19 | PCllr_dpash | Stig: quick register it with nickserv |
| 15:45.21 | skugg | i've got both stig and skugg on highlighting, so now i'm just getting confused :P |
| 15:45.27 | SpyPigeon | PCllr_dpash: not yet. Been stressed with other problems :( |
| 15:45.35 | SpyPigeon | I'll do it now... |
| 15:45.43 | PCllr_dpash | SpyPigeon: be person number 10 |
| 15:45.47 | PCllr_dpash | ;) |
| 15:46.13 | dpash | Much better |
| 15:46.25 | PCllr_dpash | or not |
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| 15:46.39 | skugg | heh. |
| 15:46.48 | PCllr_dpash | you come for another beating? |
| 15:46.57 | resuDaed | anyone have experience running UT under linux? |
| 15:47.02 | skugg | ooohh... pissing contest! :P |
| 15:47.14 | skugg | resuDaed, i've seen it run, yeah. |
| 15:47.29 | skugg | steve harker (iirc) had it running on Linux Expo. |
| 15:47.55 | skugg | take that with a grain of salt, my memory is like swiss cheese. |
| 15:48.06 | *** mode/#gllug [+o Tarragon] by ChanServ |
| 15:48.14 | resuDaed | skugg : if I run ay 640x480 on a 1280x1024 screen (ie a little box in the middle) it is super fast, however if I run at 640x480 normally, I have extremly slow rendering |
| 15:48.14 | *** kick/#gllug [PCllr_dpash!~john@public1-stoc3-3-cust104.oldh.broadband.ntl.com] by Tarragon (Tarragon) |
| 15:48.19 | *** mode/#gllug [-o Tarragon] by Tarragon |
| 15:48.29 | Tarragon | I win! |
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| 15:49.09 | SpudULike | Children! |
| 15:49.10 | resuDaed | any suggestions? |
| 15:49.25 | Tarragon | :-) |
| 15:49.40 | skugg | resuDaed, none whatsoever :P |
| 15:49.56 | dpash | Tarragon: don't come into #exim or #debian-kde in a hurry ;) |
| 15:50.09 | dpash | cool |
| 15:50.55 | skugg | *groan* no more washing-up liquid. |
| 15:50.58 | skugg | dang. |
| 15:51.38 | nasrat | skugg: use shampoo like a dodgy student :) |
| 15:52.18 | SpyPigeon | or a doggy student :) |
| 15:52.25 | skugg | nasrat, you have any idea how much more expensive shampoo is than washing-up liquid? :P |
| 15:52.29 | formi | skugg: do be uncivilized for once!! |
| 15:52.38 | skugg | formi, never! |
| 15:52.39 | skugg | :P |
| 15:52.47 | dpash | hey I've never used shampoo instead of washing up liquid |
| 15:53.11 | formi | dpash: im sure you did the opposite |
| 15:53.19 | skugg | dpash, I just did. but have to buy more washing-up liquid, because it's an expensive replacement. |
| 15:53.27 | Tarragon | At least you can get Apple shampoo |
| 15:53.47 | SpudULike | skugg: & nasrat : I never use anything else, gives the plates such lovely bounce. |
| 15:54.01 | skugg | lol! |
| 15:54.33 | SpudULike | You can get Apple washing-up liquid. |
| 15:54.46 | SpudULike | But, can you still get Apple Apples? |
| 15:55.22 | skugg | SpudULike, and conditioner dropped in to avoid split ends on the forks I take it ;) |
| 15:55.44 | Tarragon | No. I need one for a keyboard where some swine stole mine |
| 15:57.05 | SpudULike | As a result of shampoo? |
| 15:59.11 | skugg | hi murb |
| 16:14.50 | skugg | back to work I guess. bye. |
| 16:15.19 | resuDaed | ok, bbl - have to install a 2nd NIC, then time for some hardcore gaming |
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| 16:40.01 | resuDaed | eye69 : you there? |
| 16:40.06 | eye69 | Hiya |
| 16:40.12 | resuDaed | whats the cmd for that? |
| 16:40.16 | resuDaed | :-) |
| 16:40.24 | eye69 | 'wall' ENTER |
| 16:40.26 | eye69 | type text |
| 16:40.27 | eye69 | ctrl-d |
| 16:40.30 | eye69 | Wait... |
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| 16:41.37 | eye69 | So, how is the kernel behaving? |
| 16:41.57 | resuDaed | not too bad, I am just trying to compile a module for the 3c905C NIC |
| 16:42.22 | eye69 | Why did you install kernel-headers-2.4.20? |
| 16:42.28 | eye69 | Those are already there, in /usr/src/linux |
| 16:42.47 | eye69 | Uhm...I think I've already installed that module... |
| 16:43.11 | eye69 | Yes I have. |
| 16:43.27 | eye69 | The module name is 3c59x |
| 16:43.33 | resuDaed | ah |
| 16:43.40 | resuDaed | therein lies my mistake |
| 16:43.47 | eye69 | I loaded it now. |
| 16:45.27 | eye69 | So X works? |
| 16:45.36 | resuDaed | X works beautifully |
| 16:45.38 | eye69 | I just upgraded to the new driver...seems to work fine. |
| 16:45.51 | eye69 | What FPS do you get in 'glxgears'? |
| 16:46.13 | eye69 | Run glxgears and look in the terminal you're launching it from. |
| 16:46.14 | resuDaed | 250 |
| 16:46.40 | eye69 | Ok...guess that's pretty normal for a TNT2. |
| 16:46.47 | eye69 | I get just over 3000 |
| 16:47.13 | resuDaed | is good enough for average gaming though |
| 16:47.31 | resuDaed | actually 265 if I don't do anything else at the same time |
| 16:47.51 | resuDaed | do me a favour and ping 10.0.0.2, tell me what you think is happening |
| 16:48.26 | resuDaed | you getting packet loss? |
| 16:48.41 | eye69 | Yeah. I'd start by checking the cable. |
| 16:48.48 | eye69 | Change it if possible. |
| 16:49.05 | resuDaed | there are man collisions showing on the hub |
| 16:49.10 | resuDaed | s/man/many |
| 16:49.23 | eye69 | Is it a homemade cable or a factory one? |
| 16:49.39 | resuDaed | factory one, and one I've never had a problem with |
| 16:50.09 | eye69 | Tested the card before? |
| 16:50.28 | resuDaed | no, that is where I think the fault lies |
| 16:50.40 | eye69 | Do you need 3 NIC's? |
| 16:50.49 | resuDaed | no, I was testing the card |
| 16:50.52 | eye69 | Ok. |
| 16:51.02 | eye69 | Yeah, probably a faulty card in that case. |
| 16:51.19 | eye69 | Might be solvable by moving the card to another slot, but I doubt it. |
| 16:51.29 | resuDaed | no more slots |
| 16:51.51 | resuDaed | 3 PCI slots only |
| 16:52.04 | eye69 | Ouch |
| 16:52.28 | resuDaed | (I don't personally like the onboard AC '97 sound, so I use a SB live 5.1 |
| 16:52.43 | resuDaed | appalling latency |
| 16:52.46 | eye69 | Not many people like that onboard crap. |
| 16:53.21 | resuDaed | I am not sure what the onboard graphics are like, but I need the ram |
| 16:53.24 | eye69 | Oh well, time to go play UT then? :) |
| 16:53.42 | resuDaed | not quite ... need to play with onboard lan first |
| 16:54.07 | eye69 | Ahhh. I installed a bunch of network modules, so you should have everything you need. |
| 16:54.53 | eye69 | I noticed the floppy was still in there...couldn't understand why it booted to 2.4.18 even though I changed lilo.conf |
| 16:55.09 | resuDaed | lilo still wont boot |
| 16:55.16 | eye69 | Ok? Hmmm. |
| 16:55.20 | resuDaed | still running grub from floppy |
| 16:55.31 | eye69 | I can install grub on the HDD for you if you like? |
| 16:55.53 | resuDaed | would be good, coud you also point it to memtest86.bin (/boot) |
| 16:55.57 | eye69 | Sure. |
| 16:56.00 | resuDaed | thanks |
| 16:58.11 | resuDaed | think it may be the cable, just tried the onboard NIC, 90% packet loss with ping -f |
| 16:58.35 | resuDaed | 277 sent, 27 received - mass collisions |
| 17:01.19 | resuDaed | not this cable, same problem |
| 17:01.32 | cup | night |
| 17:06.12 | eye69 | resuDaed: Done. |
| 17:06.42 | resuDaed | thanks |
| 17:07.31 | eye69 | Grub can be controlled via a serial line and network too :) |
| 17:07.43 | resuDaed | doesn't surprise me |
| 17:08.12 | resuDaed | ok, have tried chaning nic at this end, cable at both ends ... but still no go on pings |
| 17:08.21 | resuDaed | leaves t'other nic or hub |
| 17:09.24 | eye69 | Yeah |
| 17:09.49 | resuDaed | am booting lappy to see if works |
| 17:10.00 | eye69 | You can connect it loopback to the same machine...have different networks on two nics and ping... |
| 17:10.07 | eye69 | If it fucks up then it must be the hub |
| 17:10.25 | resuDaed | could do |
| 17:10.34 | resuDaed | if lappy fails, then it is the hub also |
| 17:13.30 | resuDaed | no ping at all (100% loss) |
| 17:14.27 | eye69 | Hmmmm |
| 17:15.18 | resuDaed | I really wish I had a crossover cable to play with |
| 17:16.08 | resuDaed | ah well, just have to make do with UT online (no network) then |
| 17:17.41 | eye69 | I guess I should install it. Don't have any games installed at the moment. |
| 17:17.49 | eye69 | UT2k3 perhaps. |
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| 17:19.24 | oops | hi all |
| 17:19.38 | oops | i'm new in london |
| 17:19.48 | resuDaed | this is UT 436 |
| 17:19.53 | resuDaed | hey oops |
| 17:20.08 | eye69 | Hello oops |
| 17:20.12 | oops | anyone knows where i can get an happy keyboard? |
| 17:20.36 | eye69 | There might be somebody selling them at the next meeting. |
| 17:20.40 | resuDaed | eye69 : if you install 436, I'll be hosting on resudaed.com |
| 17:20.55 | eye69 | resuDaed: Just have to find the bleeding cd's... |
| 17:21.30 | resuDaed | I'd put the isos up for you, but I only have 128k upstream |
| 17:21.41 | oops | umh next meeting is on 12 ... i think i'll be away on saturday, are there any store? |
| 17:21.52 | eye69 | oops: Ask "Leeds" in the channel. He bought one from a bloke at the previous meeting. |
| 17:22.36 | resuDaed | eye69 : anyway, I'm going to go practice, if you find them, I'll be on resudaed.com |
| 17:23.03 | oops | i'm looking also something cool regarding linux, i know meeting is really cool on this aspect |
| 17:26.33 | eye69 | resuDaed_UT: Found the first disk. |
| 17:28.39 | eye69 | oops: Going to the meetings is a good start. I don't know what you mean by "cool" though. |
| 17:31.20 | *** join/#gllug Jenson (1000@dial81-131-3-239.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 17:41.43 | oops | something like sticks zines posts happy hacking kbd :) |
| 17:46.01 | SpyPigeon | Tarragon - I know you're logging this, so.... check your mail, if there isn't anything from me, txt me.. |
| 17:46.07 | SpyPigeon | To everyone else - see ya! |
| 17:46.19 | *** part/#gllug SpyPigeon (~x@dsl-212-135-209-195.dsl.easynet.co.uk) |
| 17:49.18 | SpudULike | oops: The bloke Leeds bought the keyboard from is John Winters or http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/ |
| 17:56.18 | oops | oh i already know .. leeds suggested me linuxemporium, but it sell only online |
| 17:56.43 | oops | btw thank you |
| 17:58.05 | SpudULike | Online is a problem for you? Do you need it urgently? |
| 17:59.06 | oops | nono when i come back to home i will buy, now i'm visiting london |
| 18:00.03 | oops | do you know if there are some public wireless ap in london? |
| 18:00.43 | SpudULike | No, sorry, no wireless, nothing useful to take outdoors to try. |
| 18:00.47 | oops | now i'm in a internet cafe and my time is expiring ... :( |
| 18:01.15 | SpudULike | Damn. |
| 18:01.23 | oops | ;) |
| 18:01.27 | oops | ok thank you for all |
| 18:01.33 | oops | c ya ;) |
| 18:01.38 | SpudULike | Take care. |
| 18:07.28 | Tarragon | oops: there are two types of happy Hackin' keyboards. The modern ones have the extra cursor keys. |
| 18:08.21 | Tarragon | SpyPigeon: Not logging, it is just I live here. Us 'bots need a home. |
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| 18:09.53 | Tarragon | Evening |
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| 18:12.21 | highbury | evening |
| 18:13.12 | highbury | looks like I'm now taking my ex-employers to County Court now, try and get all my notice period and expenses paid |
| 18:13.34 | dpash | hi all |
| 18:13.57 | Leeds | ugh |
| 18:13.59 | dpash | Leeds: speak to oops |
| 18:14.11 | Leeds | dpash: ? |
| 18:14.29 | dpash | Leeds: oops wants an Happy Hacking kbd |
| 18:14.37 | Leeds | okay... |
| 18:14.49 | dpash | highbury: speak to murb too |
| 18:15.13 | Leeds | oops: nu? |
| 18:15.38 | murb | highbury: good luck, but not a good idea to talk about such things in publically logged irc channels :( |
| 18:15.58 | dpash | morcanna? |
| 18:16.27 | dpash | hi Huhn |
| 18:16.59 | dpash | although I could be wrong about the silent second h |
| 18:17.12 | Huhn | it's more like oo in the middle |
| 18:17.23 | dpash | hoon |
| 18:17.36 | dpash | ah okay |
| 18:17.37 | highbury | murb: I wouldn't say anything other than things about the lowlives that I used to work for |
| 18:18.49 | murb | do you know why they really got rid of you? |
| 18:19.21 | Leeds | dpash: they think they're being funny |
| 18:19.57 | dpash | Leeds: I think CmdrTaco when ah crap I've done it again, lets just post it twice more and make it look like I meant it |
| 18:21.49 | dpash | ? |
| 18:21.52 | dpash | url? |
| 18:22.10 | dpash | Subject: 14 Doctors develop REAL Male-Enhancement |
| 18:22.13 | dpash | hmmmm |
| 18:22.20 | dpash | one for Trash |
| 18:22.30 | Leeds | http://www.3drealms.com/duke4/dnf2600.html |
| 18:23.02 | dpash | ah DNF=duke nukem forever |
| 18:23.17 | dpash | ah 2600=atari |
| 18:23.27 | Leeds | yup |
| 18:23.30 | dpash | 2600=magazine in dpash's head |
| 18:24.17 | Leeds | ugh,no |
| 18:24.26 | dpash | well yeah |
| 18:25.12 | Leeds | ugh, no |
| 18:25.37 | dpash | look who is the parish councillor around here? |
| 18:26.43 | Leeds | not me... |
| 18:26.44 | SpudULike | I knew the power would go to hi....... |
| 18:26.58 | SpudULike | ;-) |
| 18:27.12 | dpash | bow down before me peasant |
| 18:29.27 | Leeds | hah! Parish Council... you're speaking to the ex-President of the Liverpool Jewish Students' Society! :-) |
| 18:30.50 | Leeds | seriously, does parish council actual mean anything? I have no idea... |
| 18:31.27 | dpash | did JSoc have that much money? |
| 18:31.33 | Leeds | not quite... |
| 18:31.37 | Leeds | a few thousand |
| 18:33.04 | dpash | 600GBP of which seems to be going on a ISDN line for someone |
| 18:34.13 | zachary | highbury: Why did you need to have your windows cleaned? |
| 18:38.05 | dpash | what is wrong with gabber? |
| 18:38.52 | Leeds | for the ipaq... |
| 18:39.09 | dpash | you still haven't answered my question |
| 18:39.45 | Leeds | I don't know gabber... but it looks too big |
| 18:40.01 | Leeds | if it needs *any* GNOME stuff (beyond glib and gtk) it's too big |
| 18:40.53 | Leeds | I may or may not make a GPE client... |
| 18:46.56 | *** join/#gllug resuDaed (tom@pc-80-193-187-194-en.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 18:50.51 | Clyphox | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.16 | gj_ | re |
| 18:51.35 | gj_ | Leeds: any ideas what this message is about ? |
| 18:51.52 | Clyphox | re |
| 18:52.03 | Leeds | spam? |
| 18:52.08 | gj_ | i guess |
| 18:52.25 | gj_ | but it doesn't look like "buy ours software, we are the best" |
| 18:52.35 | Leeds | what message? |
| 18:52.39 | gj_ | or "win 100000 quits, send sms to £%£"$%" |
| 18:52.45 | gj_ | i send you one |
| 18:52.49 | gj_ | hmm |
| 18:52.49 | Leeds | spam |
| 18:53.05 | gj_ | if you say so |
| 18:53.11 | gj_ | so sorry for spamming you :-) |
| 18:53.23 | Leeds | 09x number is a premium rate number, so if you call it, they make cash |
| 18:53.25 | Clyphox | Is that the *first* one you've ever receivied? |
| 18:53.47 | gj_ | yep |
| 18:53.48 | Leeds | lucky guy :-) |
| 18:53.55 | gj_ | i've got this telephone for 2 years |
| 18:53.56 | Clyphox | yup |
| 18:53.59 | gj_ | i mean number |
| 18:54.00 | Clyphox | wow |
| 18:54.01 | gj_ | in orange |
| 18:54.13 | gj_ | maybe other mob nets are sending more |
| 18:54.26 | Clyphox | I still get only 4-6 a year.. not bad really |
| 18:55.08 | gj_ | yep |
| 18:55.28 | Clyphox|UT | Thats UT for UrbanTerror(.net ;-)) |
| 19:06.12 | eye69 | resuDaed: Hi. |
| 19:06.23 | eye69 | resuDaed: Worked fine. Took a little while to get into shape. |
| 19:30.00 | *** join/#gllug zachary_ (~zachary@host217-35-25-126.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 19:31.10 | Leeds | yay - I just sent myself a jabber message! |
| 19:34.52 | eye69 | Leeds: Heh. |
| 19:35.06 | eye69 | I should install Jabber again. Haven't had a proper install for quite some time. |
| 19:44.28 | *** join/#gllug formi (~formi@usr1432-har.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 19:44.41 | formi | hello |
| 19:44.47 | Huhn | hi formi (and re) |
| 19:44.55 | formi | my flatmate wants to buy a dvd player |
| 19:45.13 | formi | not the compter thing, the movies one |
| 19:45.32 | Huhn | cool |
| 19:45.36 | formi | can somebody point me to one of those sites that look for the cheapest prices? |
| 19:45.37 | Huhn | home cinema |
| 19:46.44 | eye69 | formi: www.pricerunner.com |
| 19:47.27 | formi | any player recommended? |
| 19:48.04 | eye69 | Can't think of any in a reasonable price class right now. |
| 19:48.42 | formi | we are looking for one of those portable ones, probably sony |
| 19:51.23 | formi | http://uk.pricerunner.com/sound-and-vision/vision/dvd-players/103419/details |
| 19:51.31 | formi | can somebody comment on that one? |
| 19:51.40 | formi | it says no dvd sound ?? |
| 20:01.41 | eye69 | formi: It doesn't support DVD-Audio |
| 20:04.30 | formi | what does it mean? |
| 20:05.38 | Leeds | DVD-audio, like CD-audio... it means a DVD with just audio on it, as opposed to the audio part of a video DVD |
| 20:06.36 | formi | you mean it relies on the tv set? |
| 20:06.55 | Leeds | it's not that... |
| 20:07.29 | eye69 | DVD-autio discs aren't the same as DVD-video. |
| 20:07.31 | Leeds | the audio output is going to come out the same way as the audio in a video |
| 20:07.40 | Leeds | formi: you know what a (S)VCD is? |
| 20:08.45 | formi | a dodgy one? |
| 20:08.51 | formi | http://uk.pricerunner.com/sound-and-vision/vision/dvd-players/103420/details |
| 20:09.06 | formi | what about that one? pioneer looks good |
| 20:10.49 | eye69 | http://uk.pricerunner.com/sound-and-vision/vision/dvd-players/101402/details |
| 20:11.24 | eye69 | You want a regional free one. |
| 20:11.43 | eye69 | http://uk.pricerunner.com/sound-and-vision/vision/dvd-players/52940/details |
| 20:12.19 | eye69 | http://uk.pricerunner.com/sound-and-vision/vision/dvd-players/108330/details |
| 20:12.58 | formi | we were trying to decide between the 2 pioneers, but they are no region free |
| 20:13.49 | eye69 | I wouldn't buy one that isn't region free. |
| 20:14.13 | formi | yeah, we are agreeing on that now |
| 20:15.43 | highbury | Try Richer Sounds for DVD players, or check one of the DVD Hacks sites |
| 20:17.10 | formi | we don't really want something really fancy |
| 20:17.31 | formi | http://uk.pricerunner.com/sound-and-vision/vision/dvd-players/108330/details |
| 20:17.49 | formi | we are looking seriously at that one, any negative points ? |
| 20:18.51 | eye69 | http://www.idolonfox.com/video/video_vault/030203_sh01/wmp8/300.htm |
| 20:19.33 | eye69 | formi: Sure, looks ok. |
| 20:20.10 | formi | any idea about portable ones? can't see any but the sony thingy |
| 20:22.26 | eye69 | Depends on how much you're willing to spend. |
| 20:22.56 | eye69 | http://uk.pricerunner.com/sound-and-vision/vision/dvd-players/118138/details |
| 20:28.27 | zachary | bbl |
| 20:28.32 | formi | http://dvdworld.co.uk/hardware_body.asp?pf%5Fid=80046 |
| 20:29.04 | formi | we went to the site that sells the toshiba and we didn't find it, but found that one |
| 20:34.45 | formi | stupid question, is the 3rd left photo the remote? |
| 20:35.46 | formi | yes it is |
| 20:36.05 | eye69 | Clicking on it seems to reveal that. :) |
| 20:36.38 | eye69 | Do you have a digital receiver? |
| 20:37.41 | formi | nope |
| 20:38.04 | formi | do i need one? |
| 20:39.01 | eye69 | Only if you want surround sound. |
| 20:39.35 | formi | the tv is really old 24", it only has the normal antenna conector |
| 20:40.14 | eye69 | Oh, so you're going to route it through a video or something? |
| 20:40.54 | formi | im being told the old tv works with a fancy portable sony, japanesse edition |
| 20:41.04 | formi | so there shouldn't be a problem |
| 20:41.49 | eye69 | If it only has an RF (antenna) connector (ie. no SCART) you need to route it through a video. |
| 20:45.15 | formi | katsuya says it does have the connectors |
| 20:45.26 | formi | i thought they were audio plugs |
| 20:46.50 | formi | the shopping cart doesn't like phoenix |
| 20:46.55 | eye69 | Says what? That the DVD has RF out? |
| 20:47.11 | formi | nope, the tv |
| 20:47.12 | eye69 | It doesn't. It has SCART, and a composite out. |
| 20:47.18 | eye69 | Ok. |
| 20:47.30 | formi | it has no scart, just 4 round plugs |
| 20:47.58 | formi | moving off to the xp laptop |
| 20:48.06 | eye69 | It doesn't have any text? |
| 20:48.19 | eye69 | Ie. there's not text where the plugs are? |
| 20:48.40 | eye69 | Normally the tv's have a SCART...only more expensive tv's have composite in. |
| 20:49.46 | formi | back in a sec |
| 21:09.23 | *** join/#gllug Jenson (1000@dial81-131-6-211.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 21:09.42 | Jenson | heya guys |
| 21:10.49 | gj_ | Leeds: my jabber id is gj at jabberpl.org :-) |
| 21:11.20 | eye69 | I didn't think anybody used Jabber. Always thught of it as a dead medium. |
| 21:11.35 | *** join/#gllug formi (~formi@clepto.pho.be) |
| 21:11.48 | formi | well guys purchase is done |
| 21:12.11 | formi | thanks for all the help from me and Giuliana |
| 21:12.17 | gj_ | eye69: quite popular in poland |
| 21:12.26 | gj_ | look on jabber users map |
| 21:12.31 | gj_ | i don't remember address |
| 21:12.41 | eye69 | I'll install it on my machine again. |
| 21:12.59 | formi | we are off to kiss the sky |
| 21:13.15 | formi | enjoy yourselves |
| 21:13.21 | formi | good night |
| 21:13.25 | eye69 | Email address = IRC host = JID |
| 21:13.36 | Leeds | I use it with some friends - we run a server on our hosted box |
| 21:14.18 | Leeds | easy enough to use :-) |
| 21:15.16 | gj_ | eye69: no , it seems to be email address like |
| 21:15.31 | eye69 | gj_: /whois eye69 |
| 21:15.32 | gj_ | as long as admin will not connect those services toughether |
| 21:15.43 | gj_ | and |
| 21:15.44 | gj_ | ? |
| 21:15.57 | eye69 | magnus@upcore.net, which also is my email address, which also is my JID if I can be arsed to install the Jabber server |
| 21:16.05 | gj_ | :-) |
| 21:16.07 | gj_ | i see |
| 21:16.18 | gj_ | now look on /wii gj_ |
| 21:16.26 | gj_ | this is also jabber id |
| 21:16.35 | gj_ | but demon does not know that is redns |
| 21:16.40 | gj_ | revdns |
| 21:16.50 | gj_ | shit |
| 21:17.00 | gj_ | :-) |
| 21:17.16 | gj_ | deamon.co.uk does not know what revDNS word means |
| 21:17.37 | gj_ | when i told them that they have relay open, i waited one week for answer : YES |
| 21:18.24 | *** join/#gllug murb (~murble@clepto.pho.be) |
| 21:18.28 | Jenson | heya murb |
| 21:18.35 | Jenson | s/camt/came |
| 21:18.38 | murb | please can someone fix the stupid escape codes in the motd type thing for the channel? |
| 21:22.31 | Jenson | Leeds: Do you remember roughly when it was we had the big discussion about my soundcard, coz I need to find the logs and re do it all after formatting at the weekend. |
| 21:22.32 | *** part/#gllug eye69 (magnus@upcore.net) |
| 21:22.37 | *** join/#gllug eye69 (magnus@upcore.net) |
| 21:22.53 | Jenson | re eye69 |
| 21:23.36 | Leeds | Jenson: March 8th and 10th |
| 21:24.06 | Jenson | ty Leeds I'll write that down and sort it out tomorrow |
| 21:28.51 | Jenson | murb: The days me and Leeds discusses soundcards for hours |
| 21:28.58 | highbury | murb: what escape codes? |
| 21:29.04 | Jenson | hi highbury |
| 21:30.59 | highbury | hi jenson |
| 21:31.44 | murb | highbury: yes |
| 21:32.05 | murb | higbury: in the chanserv welcom messagfe to #gllug |
| 21:32.20 | murb | someone probably thought it was clever to try and make colours etc. |
| 21:32.37 | Jenson | Mine is colouted |
| 21:32.40 | Jenson | colourdedf |
| 21:32.42 | Jenson | oh ffs |
| 21:33.16 | highbury | first four words coloured differently? |
| 21:33.31 | Jenson | its just the green gllug link on mine |
| 21:33.47 | Jenson | and murb I think it was SpudULike who did that |
| 21:34.00 | highbury | the link will probably always be a different colour, its a feature |
| 21:34.17 | murb | no it isn't. it make it unreadable. |
| 21:34.19 | Jenson | highbury: Could be I dunno, cant remember what it does in other clinets |
| 21:35.18 | highbury | but as jenson said, the text was written by SpudULike. I'll take a look at it over the next few days, and syncronise the text on the website with the text here, and fix the text colours if I can |
| 21:36.38 | murb | i didn't see jenson say anything. |
| 21:36.45 | highbury | I'm stuck in Windows at the moment, as I'm trying to print stuff off, but am discovering the IE printing is as broken as my Linux printing, i.e. truncating right hand sides of printouts |
| 21:37.12 | Jenson | My Win install is half fscked, I'm avoiding it |
| 21:37.18 | resuDaed | Jenson : who is you b/f atm? |
| 21:37.25 | Jenson | resuDaed: zimm |
| 21:37.39 | resuDaed | ah ... ok |
| 21:37.54 | highbury | Jenson: come along anyway, this times the talks may be of interest to you, especially if you want to become a junior sysadmin |
| 21:37.55 | resuDaed | wasn't sure :-) |
| 21:38.11 | Jenson | I pissed him off again, by telling him to either get a job or fill his loan forms in, instead of sitting on his arse playing with his tV aerial for hours |
| 21:38.33 | Jenson | highbury: I've never been in the talks, I seem to get preoccupied by young geek guys |
| 21:38.36 | highbury | by the time jenson is ready to actually give a presentation, she'll have dated most of us :-P |
| 21:38.51 | Jenson | highbury: lol, i think i might take that as a compliment |
| 21:39.27 | resuDaed | Jenson : I don't want to know what he does with his tv arial |
| 21:39.27 | highbury | (f) |
| 21:39.51 | highbury | bet jenson knows where to stick his aerial |
| 21:40.03 | Jenson | resuDaed: lol....we used to call it the 'tv aerial' when my cat washed his back legs lol |
| 21:40.05 | resuDaed | his tv capture card hopefully |
| 21:40.16 | resuDaed | ;) |
| 21:40.18 | Jenson | highbury: yeh, in the bin, i have a spare aerial.... |
| 21:40.29 | Jenson | this conversation is risking getting perverted |
| 21:40.31 | Jenson | all by highbury |
| 21:42.01 | resuDaed | yeah highbury ... you're such a bad influence on little innocent Jenson |
| 21:42.07 | resuDaed | ;) |
| 21:42.08 | Jenson | yeh ty resuDaed |
| 21:42.50 | Jenson | resuDaed: Do try and bring your 18 year old geekgirl to the meet, I havent met her yet |
| 21:43.11 | resuDaed | 18 yr old geek girl? |
| 21:43.23 | Jenson | she will be 18 wont she? |
| 21:44.07 | Jenson | last time me and her had a geek conversation i was trying to explain how BitchX is console based and Chat is X based |
| 21:44.13 | resuDaed | if you're talking about beth, she'll be 18 on the day of the next gllug meet, but I wouldn't describe her as a geek girl |
| 21:44.14 | Jenson | s/Chat/Xchat |
| 21:44.38 | Jenson | resuDaed: I wouldnt call me a geekgirl either, I'm not good enough |
| 21:44.54 | resuDaed | Jenson : you want to learn |
| 21:45.02 | Jenson | :) |
| 21:45.50 | Jenson | All I know about her is that Ross thinks she's good looking, mind you, he thinks you are good looking too. |
| 21:46.09 | resuDaed | Ross has met her? |
| 21:46.19 | Jenson | Yeh, in december evidently |
| 21:46.30 | resuDaed | um ... that make no sense |
| 21:46.43 | Jenson | lol he probably imagined it |
| 21:46.50 | Jenson | he was real pissed in december AFAIK |
| 21:46.51 | resuDaed | didn't mett her till dec 24th |
| 21:47.07 | Jenson | well he imagined it then |
| 21:47.16 | resuDaed | we were both real pissed ... or trying to be, but she wasn't there |
| 21:47.34 | Jenson | Well, he does think you are good looking and he has met you |
| 21:47.52 | Jenson | Me and him had a big discussion over which gllug guys we might like to do stuff with lol |
| 21:48.04 | resuDaed | he has met me, but I dopn't know what he makes his opinions based on |
| 21:48.24 | resuDaed | ok, you can stop right there, I don't do things with gllug guys |
| 21:48.37 | resuDaed | :-) |
| 21:48.47 | Jenson | heh it was quite a funny conversation |
| 21:48.59 | Jenson | he doesnt think dpash is cute, but I do |
| 21:49.21 | resuDaed | what does dpash look like? |
| 21:49.32 | resuDaed | url? |
| 21:49.40 | Jenson | http://gllug.linux.co.uk/ircphoto.html |
| 21:51.26 | Clyphox|UT | hey all |
| 21:51.36 | Jenson | hi Clyphox|UT |
| 21:51.48 | Clyphox | Howzit :-) |
| 21:51.58 | Jenson | Clyphox: Is Nikki coming to gllug on the 12th? |
| 21:52.09 | Clyphox | She's in Aberdeen atm.. sry |
| 21:52.24 | Jenson | ah, is that why you are going to Aberdeen? |
| 21:52.39 | Clyphox | [vigorous nodding] |
| 21:52.45 | Jenson | I'm listening to Blue...been listening to Jack Off Jill all day though |
| 21:52.47 | Clyphox | :-) |
| 21:53.02 | Clyphox | Blue? thats that weird boy band no? |
| 21:53.15 | Clyphox | Does a disgrace to peeps like me who like blue |
| 21:53.18 | Clyphox | (the colour) |
| 21:53.35 | Jenson | lol |
| 21:53.43 | Jenson | they are a good band |
| 21:53.43 | Clyphox | just notices "Jack of kill" on AL's playlist actaully.. any good? |
| 21:53.48 | Clyphox | er off |
| 21:53.53 | Jenson | Not as cute as Pink is :P |
| 21:53.58 | Clyphox | hmm... |
| 21:54.01 | Jenson | yeh Jack Off Jill are good |
| 21:54.19 | Clyphox | I'm more into heavy(ish) and small bands.. Like Paradis Lost hehe |
| 21:54.25 | Jenson | Talking of Pink. I lost all my damn pics of her. |
| 21:54.35 | Clyphox | pop |
| 21:54.50 | Jenson | Well, I can't listen to most of my stuff til I've configured my soundcard and reloaded my MP3s |
| 21:55.05 | Clyphox | need a hand? |
| 21:55.07 | *** join/#gllug resuDaed_ (tom@pc-80-193-187-194-en.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 21:55.35 | Clyphox | wb Resudaed |
| 21:55.36 | Jenson | Clyphox: Nah, I can do it off the logs, I'm just bloody lazy |
| 21:55.39 | resuDaed_ | ty Clyphox |
| 21:55.42 | Jenson | wb Tom |
| 21:55.55 | Clyphox | I gotta be me some Damn Distorters sometime |
| 21:56.01 | resuDaed | jusst suffered random rebooting |
| 21:56.12 | Clyphox | Should never have given my Boxx DS50 to my cousin.. |
| 21:56.15 | Jenson | resuDaed: ewww Win used to do that to me |
| 21:56.16 | gj_ | did anybody tried 2.5.66 in here ? |
| 21:56.19 | Clyphox | resuDaed: awe... |
| 21:56.24 | Jenson | gj_: not me |
| 21:56.26 | Clyphox | gj_: I prefer stability.. sry |
| 21:56.34 | gj_ | btw, new apache 2.x is released |
| 21:56.36 | gj_ | 2.0.5 |
| 21:56.37 | Clyphox | gah |
| 21:56.45 | gj_ | 2.5.66 is first one <to test> |
| 21:56.48 | Clyphox | <- Play it safe |
| 21:56.55 | resuDaed | my processor is running @ 60 deg C, could be the problem, but I cannot see anywhere to change in bios |
| 21:56.58 | Jenson | Clyphox: I was just looking at the ircphoto page and I realized I've never seen one of you. You got one? |
| 21:57.04 | gj_ | this mean, if tests are finished we will release 2.6 |
| 21:57.09 | gj_ | so sugestion, please try :-) |
| 21:57.16 | Clyphox | Jenson: I'm kringing at the idea.. |
| 21:57.22 | Jenson | resuDaed: yeh that sounds bad, never seen mine get about 30 deg C |
| 21:57.27 | Jenson | s/about/above |
| 21:57.44 | resuDaed | Clyphox : btw, I fitted new proc/mb in this box, generally more stable now |
| 21:58.02 | Clyphox | hehe |
| 21:58.04 | resuDaed | think my h/s & fan my be under spec |
| 21:58.09 | Clyphox | I like that.. "generally" muhahaha |
| 21:58.32 | Jenson | Clyphox: Thats on a par with 'this Win box is more stable now' |
| 21:58.36 | Clyphox | I noticed that my Gforce on crashes me when I use the 2.5.20 kernels.. |
| 21:58.38 | gj_ | Leeds: end of remote sesion :-) |
| 21:58.46 | Clyphox | Jenson: hehe |
| 21:58.48 | resuDaed | well, perfectly stable aprat from UT (unreal) crashing out once and the random reboots over the last few minutes |
| 21:59.03 | gj_ | Clyphox: wake up, we have 2.5.66 now |
| 21:59.10 | Clyphox | I need the disc btw.. so I can kick both your asses |
| 21:59.10 | gj_ | 2.5.20 was new ages ago |
| 21:59.20 | resuDaed | Clyphox : what, UT? |
| 21:59.21 | Jenson | I'm still on 2.4.18 |
| 21:59.24 | Clyphox | gj_: is it 2.6.x ? no |
| 21:59.32 | gj_ | i am on 2.4.21-pre6 |
| 21:59.33 | Clyphox | resuDaed: da |
| 21:59.38 | Jenson | I need to upgrade to Slack 9 |
| 21:59.48 | gj_ | and on laptop 2.4.21-pre4 |
| 21:59.52 | Clyphox | Jenson: why? not that great bth |
| 21:59.57 | resuDaed | Clyphox : I now have enough processing power to decode divXs in real time |
| 21:59.59 | Jenson | I used to love my UT demo, get into God mode and run around like a loser on easy practice mode |
| 22:00.15 | eye69 | resuDaed: Hi. |
| 22:00.30 | resuDaed | evening eye69 |
| 22:00.32 | gj_ | Clyphox: well, i will repeat message |
| 22:00.49 | Clyphox | God Mode? bah.. I Ultra |
| 22:00.52 | gj_ | Clyphox: every one is asked to try 2.5.66 and further |
| 22:01.11 | gj_ | Clyphox: to make 2.6.0 stable for you from day one |
| 22:01.16 | resuDaed | Jenson : you got a copy of UT? |
| 22:01.21 | resuDaed | (full version) |
| 22:01.23 | eye69 | resuDaed: Took a while to get into shape again. :) |
| 22:01.26 | Clyphox | gj_: The linux kernels suck. |
| 22:01.27 | Jenson | resuDaed: I have a Win demo :) |
| 22:01.31 | Clyphox | gj_: bsd owns |
| 22:01.44 | Jenson | I have Q3A for Win, but my mate has got the disc, plus my win isnt setup |
| 22:01.44 | Clyphox | gj_: besides 2.4.20 works (tm) |
| 22:01.46 | resuDaed | eye69 : I'm still not there |
| 22:02.02 | eye69 | resuDaed: Heh. |
| 22:02.03 | Clyphox | I got the Boxed Loki Q3A tin :-) |
| 22:03.19 | Jenson | I have lots of different versions of Win/DOS DooM |
| 22:03.31 | Clyphox | hehe :-) |
| 22:03.40 | Jenson | But I'm not deathmatching ever again after the embarrassment of DMing Dan lol |
| 22:04.05 | Clyphox | he beat you? |
| 22:04.08 | highbury | brb.. just rebooting back to Linux |
| 22:04.14 | resuDaed | Jenson : get hold of a copy of unreal tournament |
| 22:04.28 | Jenson | Clyphox: Understatment, something like 29-3 first match lol |
| 22:04.31 | Clyphox | Plates lsdoom? Its got freelook and more :-) |
| 22:04.40 | Clyphox | Jenson: he did tell me hehe |
| 22:04.41 | Jenson | I like zDoomGL |
| 22:04.45 | Clyphox | er Plates/Played |
| 22:04.50 | Jenson | he told everyone |
| 22:05.00 | eye69 | resuDaed: You don't happen to have UT2k3? |
| 22:05.07 | Jenson | Plates lol you're getting like me |
| 22:05.16 | resuDaed | does having the side on your case help cooling or hinder |
| 22:05.19 | eye69 | resuDaed: Guess it would be a bit slow on your gfx card though. |
| 22:05.31 | Jenson | I havent bought any games in ages. Not sure my hardware would support anything new |
| 22:05.47 | Leeds | yay! segfault! |
| 22:05.56 | resuDaed | eye69 : UT ... was a bit, but I am now unemployed ... so have to stick with it for time being |
| 22:06.04 | Clyphox | Today is my first Jobless day this century |
| 22:06.10 | gj_ | what is this UT ? |
| 22:06.16 | eye69 | Unreal Tournament |
| 22:06.18 | resuDaed | unreal tournament |
| 22:06.44 | Jenson | Clyphox: Unlike me, who got my first shitty job ever last week |
| 22:06.57 | Clyphox | first? |
| 22:07.07 | Jenson | yeh lol |
| 22:07.08 | Jenson | i'm lazy |
| 22:07.17 | resuDaed | Jenson : supermarket? |
| 22:07.28 | Jenson | nah resuDaed, school, cleaning lol |
| 22:07.29 | resuDaed | macdonalds? |
| 22:07.38 | Clyphox | Jenson: Beth does that |
| 22:07.43 | resuDaed | Jenson : don't mock it ... thats what beth does |
| 22:07.49 | Clyphox | hehe |
| 22:07.51 | Jenson | I work there half the time as a volunteer IT admin, but I'm employed as a cleaner |
| 22:08.00 | resuDaed | for only a copuple more weeks mind you ... but still |
| 22:08.03 | Jenson | heh its well dossy, like go so slow |
| 22:08.05 | Clyphox | IT admin? |
| 22:08.17 | Clyphox | eye69: hmmm.... wanna hand? |
| 22:08.26 | resuDaed | Clyphox : its a windows network, IT admin aka monkey |
| 22:08.37 | Jenson | Clyphox: Well, i dont do anything fun. Tell people how to use a printer most of the time lol |
| 22:08.45 | *** part/#gllug SpudULike (~Colin@pc-80-193-231-113-ca.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 22:08.51 | Clyphox | Ahh real Sys Admin type |
| 22:08.54 | *** join/#gllug SpudULike (~Colin@pc-80-193-231-113-ca.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 22:09.15 | eye69 | Clyphox: Heh. No, I'll survive. |
| 22:09.40 | Jenson | It took me 10 mins to work out how to save to a floppy on here this morning. Pretty mucyh sums Linux up: quick but a pain in the ass. |
| 22:09.53 | Clyphox | eye69: awee.. you're breaking my heart here |
| 22:09.54 | Jenson | Then MsWord refused to read Kword files for some reason |
| 22:09.59 | eye69 | Jenson: You'll learn. |
| 22:10.04 | eye69 | Clyphox: Why? :) |
| 22:10.18 | Clyphox | eye69: The rejection.. I just can't take it.. |
| 22:10.20 | Jenson | eye69: I'd already learnt, and forgotten |
| 22:10.28 | eye69 | Need to trash md0 first though...never use it anyway |
| 22:10.56 | eye69 | Clyphox: I prefer to do my own administration. :) |
| 22:11.13 | Clyphox | eye69: I would prefer to do your too |
| 22:12.36 | Clyphox | (cigarette fag) |
| 22:12.42 | Jenson | lol |
| 22:12.48 | eye69 | Fingers the fag? Ewwwww, that's a bit more than we wanted to know. |
| 22:14.03 | Jenson | ibot lart Clyphox |
| 22:14.15 | Clyphox | hmmm.. yeah baby |
| 22:14.44 | Jenson | heh resuDaed dont bet on it |
| 22:14.57 | Jenson | quite what he was droolijg i dont wanna know |
| 22:15.24 | resuDaed | Unreal Tournament or Takedown.avi |
| 22:15.29 | Jenson | who you contemplating? |
| 22:15.32 | resuDaed | (the latter I havn't seen in ages) |
| 22:15.59 | Leeds | ha ha ha! |
| 22:16.00 | resuDaed | or attempt to install another game on this semi-stable but very hot box |
| 22:16.03 | SpudULike | Takedown - as in Antitrust? |
| 22:16.18 | resuDaed | Takedown as in Kevin Mitnick |
| 22:16.30 | Leeds | I have a one-way hardcoded-destination Jabber client working! |
| 22:16.41 | SpudULike | Has Takedown got a different name? |
| 22:16.44 | Jenson | resuDaed: Take the case off, and put a room fan next to ut lol |
| 22:16.47 | Jenson | s/ut/it |
| 22:17.22 | eye69 | http://tlf.cx/ShakiraParody.mpeg |
| 22:17.51 | *** join/#gllug resuDaed (tom@pc-80-193-187-194-en.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 22:17.57 | Jenson | wb |
| 22:18.09 | resuDaed | ty |
| 22:18.31 | resuDaed | that is how long it takes me to startx and run bitchx |
| 22:18.44 | Jenson | thats quicj |
| 22:18.55 | resuDaed | not really |
| 22:19.47 | resuDaed | Clyphox : how long does it take to get urban terror on a box? |
| 22:19.48 | Clyphox | I'm about to get kicked out ot #netbsd |
| 22:19.54 | Jenson | Clyphox: why? |
| 22:20.02 | Clyphox | resuDaed: as long as it does to download the maps |
| 22:20.18 | resuDaed | for bad mouthing the installation no doubt |
| 22:20.40 | Clyphox | Jenson: Cause the installer sucks. |
| 22:20.50 | Clyphox | hehe |
| 22:22.03 | gj_ | bsd sux |
| 22:22.28 | resuDaed | Clyphox : where do I start? |
| 22:22.31 | Clyphox | gj_: got better kernels and liscense's |
| 22:22.46 | Clyphox | resuDaed: install q3a |
| 22:23.03 | Jenson | is q3a released for linux |
| 22:23.07 | gj_ | well |
| 22:23.13 | Leeds | Jenson: of course |
| 22:23.16 | gj_ | i told that allready, but i will repead |
| 22:23.19 | gj_ | repeat |
| 22:23.26 | Jenson | am i the only person who hasnt successfully managed to compile anything for linux |
| 22:23.36 | gj_ | all hackers i know love BSD, becouse it is so wide open |
| 22:23.37 | gj_ | for them |
| 22:23.38 | gj_ | :-) |
| 22:23.45 | gj_ | OpenBSD and Freebsd |
| 22:23.51 | Jenson | i tried to install Wolf 3d and Doom for linux, but I'm obviosuly stupid |
| 22:23.52 | resuDaed | tom@brian:~$ |
| 22:23.53 | gj_ | i don't have information about net |
| 22:24.20 | gj_ | there are plenty of unreleased local holes |
| 22:24.40 | resuDaed | linuxq3apoint-1.32b.x86.run ? |
| 22:25.23 | Clyphox | da |
| 22:25.25 | resuDaed | anyone know any good mirrors for idsoftware? |
| 22:25.29 | Clyphox | Got pak0.pk3? |
| 22:25.44 | resuDaed | am getting 16kB/sec |
| 22:25.50 | Clyphox | off me? |
| 22:25.55 | Clyphox | Just get it off the net man |
| 22:25.58 | resuDaed | no, from ftp.idsoftware.com |
| 22:26.09 | Jenson | resuDaed: be impressed. the best I've ever got it 7kb/s |
| 22:26.09 | resuDaed | from you I'd get 14 |
| 22:26.24 | Jenson | s/it/is |
| 22:26.29 | Jenson | dialup i usualy get about 3 |
| 22:26.33 | Jenson | need ADSL |
| 22:26.39 | resuDaed | Jenson : you are not used to 60kB/s |
| 22:27.09 | Jenson | resuDaed: Loval library is 128kb/s |
| 22:27.11 | Jenson | local |
| 22:28.20 | Clyphox | I think I am gonna have to leave #netbsd |
| 22:28.35 | Clyphox | I just can't get them to admit that the install suxs arse. |
| 22:28.36 | Jenson | lol Clyphox stop irritasting them |
| 22:28.50 | Clyphox | Hell I have a hard time telling ppl that the slack install is EASY! |
| 22:29.04 | Jenson | Clyphox: the slack install is easy |
| 22:29.36 | Clyphox | Yeah try telling dumb windoze'ers that UI mean |
| 22:29.39 | Clyphox | er UI=I |
| 22:29.53 | Jenson | Clyphox: The windows install is more annoying |
| 22:30.19 | Clyphox | To us.. but some ppl just suck |
| 22:30.32 | Jenson | And I fail to see why ppl think a Debian install looks scary....I've never done one, but it doesnt *llok* scary |
| 22:31.04 | Clyphox | I've done a few.. slack was easier |
| 22:31.23 | Clyphox | hell booting off a Floppy and untarring wasw easier |
| 22:31.38 | Jenson | i like slack.....just put it on install alll and wander off |
| 22:32.03 | resuDaed | Jenson : 60kB/s = 512(ish)kb/s |
| 22:32.36 | resuDaed | Jenson : a debian install is scary |
| 22:32.40 | Jenson | resuDaed: yeh. it was a small d/l. i never d/ed enough to see what speed it would settle at |
| 22:33.15 | resuDaed | broadband.blueyonder.co.uk have some downloads, but none fo linux AFAICS |
| 22:33.17 | Jenson | resuDaed: Well zimm did a Debian install on here (which if I was paying attention he wouldnt have been allowed to do) but I was too busy trying to distract him |
| 22:34.14 | Clyphox | resuDaed: its out there.. |
| 22:34.31 | Jenson | i should have just picked up the keyboard and walked ogff, coz he obviusoly likes linux more than me |
| 22:34.47 | resuDaed | Clyphox : what is? |
| 22:35.11 | Clyphox | the truth.. |
| 22:35.34 | Clyphox | the q3a point release I meant originally :-) |
| 22:35.56 | Jenson | ahhhhhhhh, fscking hell, X is crashing my browsers outn again. We had this last night |
| 22:37.27 | Clyphox | memory shortage maybe |
| 22:37.47 | Jenson | could be |
| 22:38.04 | Jenson | i have 128MB RAM 180 swap I think |
| 22:38.25 | Clyphox | try phoenix maybe |
| 22:39.28 | Jenson | 197MB swap according to cfdisk |
| 22:39.32 | Clyphox | I can't fund my wallet |
| 22:39.37 | Clyphox | er find |
| 22:39.43 | Jenson | would a larger swap partition be useful |
| 22:40.00 | Clyphox | Jenson: depends if you need it.. hehe |
| 22:40.06 | Jenson | lol |
| 22:40.18 | Jenson | Well I have almost 8GB I'm not doing anything with ATM |
| 22:41.22 | Clyphox | do you have an unused partition? |
| 22:41.56 | Jenson | I tried to make that free space into a filestores, and killed my slack install in the process, so im steering werll clewar nw |
| 22:42.00 | Jenson | well clear now |
| 22:42.05 | Clyphox | Your Huge intelects are no match for my tiny beam weapon! |
| 22:42.41 | eye69 | There, LVM extended onto another 18GB disk. |
| 22:43.16 | Clyphox | now I'm shooting ppl with my phaser in #netbsd |
| 22:43.24 | Clyphox | (they're not that bad :-) 0 |
| 22:44.03 | resuDaed | Clyphox : what else do I need to download (and from where) |
| 22:44.13 | resuDaed | (still @ 16k) |
| 22:45.18 | Jenson | my mate who is meant to be coming to gllug with me now has decided she wont coz she wants to get her tongue pierced ASAP and will have to take time off work for that, therefore cant take time off to come to london |
| 22:45.19 | Clyphox | pak0.pk3 |
| 22:45.41 | Clyphox | (only 600Meg or so) |
| 22:45.44 | resuDaed | from where? |
| 22:45.48 | eye69 | Should I install Q3? |
| 22:45.59 | Leeds | argh, I can send messages, but not receive them |
| 22:46.00 | resuDaed | (I don't really want to rip 600 MB from your server) |
| 22:46.19 | Clyphox | eye69: then install Urbanterror (.net) and I can give yom some liks |
| 22:46.22 | Clyphox | er licks |
| 22:46.40 | Clyphox | resuDaed: its quake3. can't run it without it. |
| 22:47.07 | resuDaed | the quake 3, as in I need to have the whole thing to use the engine? |
| 22:47.27 | Clyphox | afaik yes |
| 22:48.39 | resuDaed | you don't happen to have a physical copy do you (on CD) |
| 22:48.56 | eye69 | Clyphox: I shall. |
| 22:49.57 | Clyphox | resuDaed: yeah |
| 22:50.06 | eye69 | DAMN |
| 22:50.13 | eye69 | My Q3 CD is fscked |
| 22:50.18 | Clyphox | resuDaed: Didn't you see the nice Shiney Loki Quake3A box I have? |
| 22:50.28 | Clyphox | eye69: Got the liscense still? |
| 22:50.53 | eye69 | Dunno if I have a working license...haven't played it for ages |
| 22:51.12 | resuDaed | Clyphox : I think so, could you rip me a copy of files I need that can't be downloaded? |
| 22:51.35 | Jenson | i have Q3A for win, or at least my mate does |
| 22:51.45 | Jenson | ihave the case, but shes got the CD lol |
| 22:52.12 | Clyphox | resuDaed: come on over.. |
| 22:52.18 | Clyphox | ..do the TWWIIISST |
| 22:52.29 | resuDaed | I have the q3 point release, and the files available from urbanterror.net |
| 22:52.32 | Clyphox | Jenson: thats no good hehe |
| 22:54.00 | Leeds | ARGH! |
| 22:54.02 | resuDaed | Clyphox : ok, but I need to get dressed etc. will I need blank cds? |
| 22:54.19 | resuDaed | Leeds : I told you it'd hurt |
| 22:54.26 | Jenson | resuDaed: Are you gonna go to Clyphox's now? |
| 22:54.34 | resuDaed | Jenson : why? |
| 22:54.42 | Jenson | resuDaed: coz its like midnight lol |
| 22:54.49 | resuDaed | Jenson : and? |
| 22:55.01 | Clyphox | resuDaed: blank CD would be a good idea yeah |
| 22:55.07 | Jenson | oh yeh i forgot, being on irc talking about linux isnt normal anyweay |
| 22:55.16 | Clyphox | hehe |
| 22:55.25 | resuDaed | Jenson : I lost my job, I don't exactly have to get up early tomorrow |
| 22:55.52 | Jenson | resuDaed: What'd you do to lose your job? |
| 22:56.09 | Jenson | I just wouldnt wanna go outside in this weather, plus its dangerous |
| 22:56.28 | resuDaed | my mother was taken ill ... had to go to the hospital with her, I had to take a day off work ... all of a sudden ... didn't have a job |
| 22:56.43 | Jenson | Thats just evil of the job people |
| 22:56.53 | resuDaed | Jenson : pretty much |
| 22:56.54 | Jenson | is your mother ok? |
| 22:57.02 | Leeds | yay! |
| 22:57.10 | resuDaed | Jenson : shes been better, but she ok |
| 22:57.10 | Jenson | congrats Leeds |
| 22:57.17 | Jenson | resuDaed: good :) |
| 22:57.24 | Leeds | oops... not yay to ill mother... yay to getting some two-way Jabber |
| 22:57.33 | Jenson | Leeds: yeh i guessefd |
| 22:57.39 | resuDaed | Leeds : I guess also |
| 22:58.10 | Leeds | resuDaed: were you properly employed? 'coz that's probably illegal if you were... |
| 22:58.26 | Jenson | it sounds illegal to me |
| 22:59.05 | resuDaed | Leeds : no ... agency |
| 22:59.28 | Clyphox | resuDaed: sorry to hear 'bout you mum! |
| 22:59.30 | resuDaed | but I'd been with them 2 months or so |
| 22:59.58 | Leeds | still sounds dodgy... |
| 23:00.23 | Leeds | they almost certainly have the right to not pay you for that day, but not to fire you for it, as a genuine family emergency |
| 23:00.55 | resuDaed | Leeds : I know, but agency staff have no rights ... hence why they get employed so easily |
| 23:01.14 | Jenson | Ah well, time for bed |
| 23:01.16 | Clyphox | resuDaed: you comming round then? |
| 23:01.17 | Leeds | I think you have some rights... I did agency work years ago |
| 23:01.21 | Clyphox | Jenson: night night |
| 23:01.27 | Jenson | Good luck finding another job then resuDaed |
| 23:01.28 | resuDaed | night Jenson |
| 23:01.31 | Jenson | night Clyphox |
| 23:01.34 | Jenson | night resuDaed |
| 23:01.37 | Jenson | night Leeds |
| 23:01.47 | *** part/#gllug Jenson (1000@dial81-131-6-211.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 23:03.30 | Leeds | and it's basically working... at midnight |
| 23:03.32 | resuDaed | Clyphox : yeah, am just finding things |
| 23:03.47 | resuDaed | (eg blank cds) |
| 23:03.56 | Clyphox | I should have.. |
| 23:04.15 | Clyphox | I will take you though the quake3 mod setup |
| 23:04.15 | eye69 | Installing UT2k3 now. |
| 23:04.34 | resuDaed | UT & UT are going to get confusing |
| 23:04.58 | resuDaed | couldn't they come up with orrigional initials for one of them |
| 23:07.28 | Clyphox | Urbanterror is older iirc |
| 23:07.37 | Clyphox | aka: q3ut2 |
| 23:08.29 | resuDaed | ok, am leaving in around 30 seconds |
| 23:08.40 | Tarragon | bye |
| 23:08.49 | Clyphox | cya soon.. want coffee? |
| 23:08.50 | resuDaed | laters Tarragon |
| 23:09.10 | resuDaed | Clyphox : please, black, 2 sugars ... and can you make sure back door is unlocked :-) |
| 23:09.31 | Clyphox | omw |
| 23:28.58 | Stephen | evening all |
| 23:33.34 | HuhnZzZ | nn |
| 23:33.42 | SpudULike | nn |
| 23:36.36 | *** join/#gllug Davilion (~irvined@pc1-warw3-3-cust61.brhm.cable.ntl.com) |
| 23:36.58 | Davilion | hi |
| 23:37.11 | Leeds | hi |
| 23:37.26 | Davilion | hows it going leeds? |
| 23:38.53 | Leeds | pretty good... |
| 23:39.13 | Leeds | getting along well at work... and I've written the core of a Jabber client for my iPAQ this evening... |
| 23:39.29 | Leeds | 27K binary, including a statically-linked Jabber protocol library |
| 23:40.14 | Leeds | how's it with you? |
| 23:40.37 | Davilion | things are good |
| 23:40.51 | Leeds | good |
| 23:41.30 | Davilion | just at a friends for a beer and pc fixing session |
| 23:41.49 | Leeds | cool... I'm about to go to bed :-) |
| 23:43.06 | Leeds | g'night... |