| 00:23.56 | Clyphox | [yawn] |
| 00:24.44 | SpudULike | Thought you were busy Quaking it! |
| 00:26.03 | Davilion | evening guys |
| 00:26.12 | Clyphox | Busy installing a new mod and burning quake3 for resudaed |
| 00:26.22 | Clyphox | heya Davilion |
| 00:26.34 | Clyphox | He's being a good geek and making coffe atm :-) |
| 00:26.45 | SpudULike | ;-) |
| 00:26.46 | Clyphox | (takes ages to grow...) |
| 00:27.16 | SpudULike | Are you going to run a game server or join a public one? |
| 00:27.46 | Clyphox | I generally play online |
| 00:28.06 | Clyphox | Not sure if my current upstream (only 16k) is enough |
| 00:28.40 | Davilion | heh |
| 00:28.42 | Clyphox | I'm not really a fan of Q3a anymore.. I play UrbanTerror a hell of alot instead |
| 00:28.51 | Davilion | i can't get into games much |
| 00:28.59 | Davilion | i used to play so much more than i do now |
| 00:29.04 | Clyphox | me too |
| 00:29.04 | Davilion | used to be a real doom2 addict |
| 00:29.08 | Clyphox | hehe |
| 00:29.21 | Clyphox | I tend to get re-addicted |
| 00:29.36 | Clyphox | Been addicted for a record long time.. about 7months now I think.. |
| 00:29.41 | SpudULike | I think it might be fun to get a #gllug games night sorted out, any game, anything that'll network. |
| 00:29.48 | Clyphox | OOHHHH!! iTs A BIIGGG mug! |
| 00:30.09 | Clyphox | Quake is the traditional geek game |
| 00:30.32 | Clyphox | But seeing as we're all leet internet ppl anyway it would be easier to setup a GLLUG server on the net.. |
| 00:30.45 | Clyphox | Resudaed agrees (btw0 |
| 00:30.46 | Clyphox | ) |
| 00:32.10 | SpudULike | It would be nice to start off with something that everyone would have. BZFlag maybe. |
| 00:33.58 | Clyphox | never heard of it.. |
| 00:35.28 | SpudULike | Is Doom Freely available? |
| 00:35.40 | Clyphox | the demo is networkable |
| 00:35.54 | Clyphox | Ahh I know |
| 00:36.05 | Clyphox | Q Team Fortress |
| 00:36.08 | Clyphox | thats free :-) |
| 00:36.13 | Clyphox | or UT2003 |
| 00:36.35 | SpudULike | UT2003 demo? Does that network? |
| 00:36.55 | Clyphox | yup.. |
| 00:37.04 | Clyphox | Same as Wolf32 demo |
| 00:37.38 | SpudULike | I didn't even realise that Wolf32 ran on Linux as a client. |
| 00:38.17 | Clyphox | Its great :-) |
| 00:38.35 | Clyphox | er Thats wolfenstein (new one) I mean.. |
| 00:38.36 | eye69 | UT2k3 isn't that fun... |
| 00:38.42 | Clyphox | I agree |
| 00:38.49 | Clyphox | esp with my video card |
| 00:38.54 | Stephen | Clyphox: ah, that's no fun, the old one was sheer class |
| 00:39.06 | eye69 | Ahhh, I should install RTCW |
| 00:39.14 | Clyphox | Stephen: I have a copy.. |
| 00:39.38 | Clyphox | Finnished it at least twice.. |
| 00:39.49 | Clyphox | used to know the cheats backwards |
| 00:40.26 | Stephen | I only ever had the first one, cos it was shareware |
| 00:40.26 | Clyphox | Wolf rocked |
| 00:40.47 | Clyphox | gone open no iirc |
| 00:40.49 | Stephen | problem is that is somehow manages to hard-lock my PIII 5000 |
| 00:40.59 | Clyphox | lol |
| 00:41.06 | Stephen | s/5000/500/ |
| 00:41.07 | Clyphox | I wouldn't mind a Piii 5k! |
| 00:41.23 | Stephen | get a dual xeon box then |
| 00:41.23 | Clyphox | I only got 2k :( |
| 00:43.36 | Stephen | tbh, for most things, you could swap my 500Mhz chip for a, say 266Mhz one, and I'd probably not notice the difference for ages |
| 00:43.47 | Stephen | faster chips for me would just be overkill |
| 00:44.02 | Clyphox | I am glad I have a dualy.. makes life very nice |
| 00:44.16 | Clyphox | Compile a kernel and Quake at the same time and not notice |
| 00:48.16 | Clyphox | I'm jobless |
| 00:48.44 | Stephen | I'm not, but I don't get paid |
| 00:49.07 | Clyphox | whats the point? what do you do? (or not) |
| 00:49.38 | Stephen | get experience, and something I can put down on my cv |
| 00:50.00 | Stephen | cos atm, I don't have anything I can really put down on a CV |
| 00:50.13 | Clyphox | what do you do? |
| 00:50.29 | Stephen | sysadmin for a games company |
| 00:50.29 | Clyphox | PS: regarding the CV.... LIE |
| 00:50.35 | Clyphox | MUHAHAHAHA |
| 00:50.41 | Stephen | I couldn't never do that |
| 00:50.43 | Clyphox | Sounds fun.. |
| 00:50.57 | Clyphox | Was that an intentionaly double negative? |
| 00:51.14 | Stephen | except you have to deal with counter strike players, who are the most annoying people in the world |
| 00:51.23 | Stephen | no, it wasn't, just a typo |
| 00:52.37 | Clyphox | do you run CS servers? |
| 00:52.50 | Stephen | yep |
| 00:53.17 | Clyphox | just that or the whole lan maybe? |
| 00:54.16 | Stephen | well, I actually run the linux servers and leave the CS stuff to people who understand and care about it |
| 00:54.56 | Clyphox | da |
| 00:56.04 | Stephen | eye69: any advice? is it worth doing? |
| 00:57.16 | Clyphox | I should subscribe to some security stuff.. |
| 00:57.24 | eye69 | Stephen: Do you have people on the machine you can't ultimately trust? |
| 00:57.52 | eye69 | I think it's worth doing anyway...anybody getting to a non-root shell can become root. |
| 00:58.20 | Stephen | oh, okay then, I'll have to persuade my boss that it's a good idea to reboot the machine |
| 00:58.41 | Stephen | of course, I doubt he'll listen |
| 01:00.12 | eye69 | Ok, this is incredibly annoying. Even if you have the Windows version of Tribes 2 you need to buy the Linux version. |
| 01:00.24 | eye69 | What's wrong with supplying Linux binaries anyway? |
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| 01:20.25 | highbury | murb: has the channel info for #gllug been changed? |
| 01:26.02 | SpudULike | I think murb had a problem with the Entrymsg text which has the URL. This is the only thing that comes up in colour and I would expect that to be because of a client feature. |
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| 01:28.51 | eye69 | Irssi doesn't have any feature of the sort and it pops up in green here. |
| 01:30.07 | SpudULike | There are no colour control codes entered manually. |
| 01:36.32 | Stephen | I don't even see the welcome message anymore |
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| 01:39.02 | SpudULike | Hmm, for me in KSirc it's now in three colours, starts off plain, URL is then highlighted in blue and the remainder of the text in in green. |
| 01:39.53 | SpudULike | Is it a function of the irc server to highlight URLs ??? |
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| 01:41.03 | Stephen | nope, all same color for me, perhaps color stripping is on |
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| 07:31.52 | zachary | moin |
| 07:34.55 | Huhn | moin |
| 07:38.11 | Tarragon | Moin |
| 07:39.03 | Huhn | hi Tarragon |
| 07:39.09 | Tarragon | Hi |
| 07:41.20 | Huhn | (and a bed) *yawwwwwwwwn* |
| 07:43.56 | Tarragon | See now I am yawning. You should know they are infectious |
| 07:45.29 | Huhn | I know.. |
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| 08:04.01 | dummy | hey anyone around? |
| 08:05.37 | zachary | dummy: Nope, no one is here but us nicks. |
| 08:06.13 | zachary | Should be another beautiful day, as long as highbury does not clean anything. |
| 08:12.35 | dpash | hi all |
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| 08:15.07 | cup | morning |
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| 08:27.57 | dummy | k back umm i ahve a questionw hen you rebuild ur kernel |
| 08:28.11 | dummy | and ur network device exist but modprobe fails what do you do? |
| 08:28.45 | dummy | i did install it as a module |
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| 08:39.07 | jason_ukfsn | good morning all |
| 08:39.34 | zachary | morning jason |
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| 08:41.14 | zachary | jason_ukfsn: dummy had a question about trouble shooting a kernel module. After rebuilding a kernel for a network card and it fails with modprobe, what would be the first place to look? |
| 08:42.53 | dummy | my modules in 2.4.20 |
| 08:42.59 | dummy | miss net |
| 08:43.08 | dummy | wheres 2.4.18 contains a dir called net |
| 08:43.31 | dummy | which contains net/8390.o.gz |
| 08:43.49 | dummy | rather odd..maybe i should build the donald becker modules seperately |
| 08:44.36 | dummy | anyways brb i'll try it out |
| 08:47.05 | jason_ukfsn | the first thing I would check is how the kernel was built. 99% of the time when I hear this kind of problem it's because the kernel didn't have the driver built as a module or make modules had not been run. |
| 08:47.25 | dpash | jason_ukfsn: you must be a slow typer or reader |
| 08:47.29 | dpash | ;) |
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| 08:48.42 | jason_ukfsn | neither, I'm just in the process of cleaning out the spam from my inbox as well. I didn't notice that dummy had signed off though. |
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| 08:48.52 | dummy | ahh |
| 08:48.56 | dummy | me back :) |
| 08:49.03 | jason_ukfsn | Hello Drusilla |
| 08:49.05 | jason_ukfsn | wb dummy |
| 08:49.17 | dummy | i have a rc script which calls modprobe on boot up |
| 08:49.22 | dummy | i just built the 2.4.20 kernel |
| 08:49.29 | Drusilla | Hello jason_ukfsn |
| 08:49.37 | dummy | but it says cant loacte module 3x59x |
| 08:49.41 | dummy | *locate |
| 08:49.47 | dummy | 3c59x |
| 08:50.42 | jason_ukfsn | Have you checked that the module was built - ie not missed out in the make config process? |
| 08:50.48 | dummy | theres a diff between 3c509x so im wondering if its the wrong module i got running here |
| 08:50.57 | dummy | im looking at it now |
| 08:51.52 | dummy | CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_3COM=y |
| 08:52.06 | dummy | CONFIG_EL3=m |
| 08:52.37 | dummy | thats the only mudle i selected |
| 08:52.39 | dummy | module |
| 08:52.57 | dummy | when i try a netconfig it says try adding it modules.conf or rebuilding ur kernel |
| 08:54.06 | dummy | 3Com PCI EtherLink PCI and EISA cards, the 3c590 and 3c900/905 series. |
| 08:54.09 | dummy | thats what i have |
| 08:54.23 | jason_ukfsn | What do you have in your /etc/modules.conf for eth0? |
| 08:54.53 | dummy | nothing |
| 08:56.11 | jason_ukfsn | Add a line like the following to your /etc/modules.conf file: |
| 08:56.21 | jason_ukfsn | alias eth0 3c59x |
| 08:56.26 | jason_ukfsn | and then try again. |
| 08:57.04 | dummy | k i'll reboot else i'll just build the module manually |
| 08:57.10 | dummy | brb |
| 08:57.20 | jason_ukfsn | wait! |
| 08:58.10 | jason_ukfsn | Damn, I've just checked a .config file and he's built the wrong module :( he should have selected the CONFIG_VORTEX module I think. |
| 08:58.13 | zachary | jason_ukfsn: dummy should have been able to do a modeprobe after editing modules.conf right? |
| 08:58.37 | jason_ukfsn | yep, I suspect he's spent too long around a certain DOS based OS. |
| 08:58.51 | zachary | yup, config -> reboot. |
| 09:00.03 | jason_ukfsn | oh well, he'll no doubt be back in a moment. |
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| 09:01.03 | dummy | cant modprobe eth0, cant modporbe 3c59x |
| 09:01.21 | dummy | http://www.scyld.com/expert/modules.html |
| 09:01.24 | dummy | thats it i guess |
| 09:02.12 | jason_ukfsn | dummy I've just checked a .config file and you've built the wrong module. You should have selected CONFIG_VORTEX for a 3C590/3c900 card |
| 09:02.59 | dummy | what did i choose? |
| 09:03.30 | dummy | i think thats what i choose errr im blind k im gonna go ahead and redo this |
| 09:03.37 | dummy | *chose |
| 09:03.38 | jason_ukfsn | CONFIG_EL3 |
| 09:04.24 | dummy | got it |
| 09:04.28 | jason_ukfsn | Also dummy you don't need to reboot to load new modules - only to load a completely no kernel. |
| 09:04.33 | jason_ukfsn | s/no/new/ |
| 09:04.45 | dummy | im on the 2.4.18 kernel |
| 09:04.51 | dummy | so i gotta boot inot the 2.4.20 |
| 09:05.26 | jason_ukfsn | fair enough. |
| 09:05.57 | dummy | yeah i have a via motherboard the 2.4.18 isnt too good with it :) |
| 09:09.45 | murb | why do i have to work for such fuckwits |
| 09:10.06 | murb | how do i explain how a mailsystem works when they don't know the difference between mail and dns |
| 09:10.26 | dummy | jason_ukfsn: i see what i did wrong i chose 3c509 |
| 09:10.33 | dummy | got a lil mixed up |
| 09:11.41 | jason_ukfsn | murb you need a clue bat |
| 09:12.13 | dummy | is agp support a safe choice? |
| 09:12.24 | dummy | especially on nvidia |
| 09:13.13 | murb | jason: when i explain how it really works they get upset. |
| 09:15.56 | dpash | murb: what don't they get? |
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| 09:18.24 | dpash | hi |
| 09:19.01 | jason_ukfsn | brb - heating engineer just arrived to service gas things |
| 09:20.06 | Davilion | hi |
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| 09:28.46 | dummy | yeah now i get insmod failed |
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| 09:54.44 | dummy | is it k if my paste my output? |
| 09:54.51 | dummy | or should i /msg? |
| 09:55.34 | jason_ukfsn | What is the error message you are getting from insmod? |
| 09:55.57 | dummy | /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o: unresolved symbol jiffies_Rsmp_0da02d67 |
| 09:55.58 | dummy | /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o: unresolved symbol softnet_data_Rsmp_ec354d9c |
| 09:55.58 | dummy | /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o: unresolved symbol request_irq_Rsmp_0c60f2e0 |
| 09:55.58 | dummy | /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o: unresolved symbol pci_enable_wake_Rsmp_e4028ad7 |
| 09:55.58 | dummy | /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o: unresolved symbol zone_table_Rsmp_dcac3d17 |
| 09:55.58 | dummy | /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o: unresolved symbol __release_region_Rsmp_d49501d4 |
| 09:56.00 | dummy | /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o failed |
| 09:56.02 | dummy | /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o: insmod 3c59x failed |
| 09:57.16 | dummy | root@toxicity/dark# ls /lib/modules/2.4.18/net/ |
| 09:57.16 | dummy | 8390.o.gz |
| 09:57.33 | dummy | wheres as the net dir dont exist under 2.4.20/net |
| 09:57.49 | dummy | and its trying to use someother file thru 2.4.20/kernel/driver/net |
| 09:58.01 | jason_ukfsn | The directory should be /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/driver/net |
| 09:58.10 | dummy | yes |
| 09:58.31 | dummy | root@toxicity/dark# ls /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/net/ |
| 09:58.31 | dummy | 3c59x.o dummy.o mii.o |
| 09:59.02 | jason_ukfsn | It looks like you've missed out some other driver that 3x59x depends upon. |
| 09:59.21 | dummy | umm |
| 09:59.33 | jason_ukfsn | Is your system SMP (ie multiple CPUs)? |
| 09:59.38 | dummy | no |
| 10:00.47 | dummy | my 2.4.18/kernel/drivers/net contains .gz files |
| 10:01.00 | jason_ukfsn | unless I'm mistaken the _Rsmp indicates that there is some confusion looking for SMP symbols in the kernel |
| 10:01.00 | dummy | and tis not suing 3c509 |
| 10:01.19 | dummy | 8390.o.gz is what its calling |
| 10:01.43 | jason_ukfsn | Do you have the 2.4.18 kernel loaded at the moment? |
| 10:01.46 | dummy | addinf a net dir and copying the file wouldnt help right |
| 10:01.53 | dummy | yeah im on it but i dont have the source |
| 10:01.56 | jason_ukfsn | If so run lsmod and see what module is loaded. |
| 10:02.09 | dummy | 3c59x 24648 1 |
| 10:02.12 | dummy | lsmod says that |
| 10:02.18 | jason_ukfsn | no, don't try and use 2.4.18 modules under 2.4.20 |
| 10:02.27 | dummy | okies |
| 10:03.17 | jason_ukfsn | When you tried insmod (or modprobe as you should be using) a moment ago and printed the error had you booted into the 2.4.20 kernel? |
| 10:03.25 | dummy | yes |
| 10:03.56 | jason_ukfsn | What distro are you running? |
| 10:04.00 | dummy | slackware 8.1 |
| 10:05.18 | jason_ukfsn | Hmm, without seeing the system I am a bit stumped. If you want to send me a copy of your .config file I'll see if I can work out what is not right. |
| 10:05.28 | dummy | k ure |
| 10:06.57 | jason_ukfsn | Email it to me - jason@ukpost.com |
| 10:07.04 | dummy | http://toxicity.ath.cx:81/config |
| 10:07.37 | dummy | is that cool? or you want me to email it? |
| 10:07.57 | jason_ukfsn | no, that's fine I have it now. |
| 10:08.44 | Tarragon | murb: I checked around and the channel entry message is a colour feature as opposed to a bug. URL's are not automatically coloured. Asking on some on the DALnet and Undernet sysop channels they said that colour has been out for a long time and it is acceptable. The initial problem with colour was mIRC treated it differently but most can now cope (since 1996). Note they did not say all could cope. We have now removed the colour |
| 10:08.44 | Tarragon | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:08.48 | Tarragon | I asked the Freenode ChanOps and they said "Due to overwhelming demand, Freenode will continue to support legacy protocols for a while. However, you should switch as soon as possible, because one day ... !" |
| 10:09.34 | jason_ukfsn | dummy you have SMP turned on in your kernel .config. |
| 10:10.02 | dummy | umm |
| 10:10.58 | dummy | anything else i did wrong? |
| 10:11.12 | jason_ukfsn | I'mm looking through it now |
| 10:11.30 | jason_ukfsn | Do you have ISA slots in your box? |
| 10:12.36 | dummy | i have pci slots |
| 10:12.41 | dummy | it says it speeds it up |
| 10:13.01 | dummy | but i'll takeit off |
| 10:13.33 | dummy | sorry im new at this |
| 10:18.12 | jason_ukfsn | What graphics card do you have dummy? |
| 10:18.54 | dummy | nvidia geforce 4 ti 4200 |
| 10:19.01 | dummy | agp errors out |
| 10:19.07 | dummy | so im not gonna enable it |
| 10:20.01 | jason_ukfsn | I believe that you need proprietary drivers from NVidia for that if you want decent performace from the card. I've not used NVidia cards myself for that reason. |
| 10:20.37 | dummy | oh yeah i use nvidia drivers |
| 10:20.42 | jason_ukfsn | Note that without AGP DRI and GLX are non starters so you wont get any benefits from having such a shiny video card. |
| 10:20.53 | dummy | i know but i dont play games n stuff |
| 10:20.57 | dummy | so it really doesnt hurt |
| 10:21.14 | dummy | plus nvidia has tips on tweaking the card |
| 10:21.24 | dummy | but thats a latter issue |
| 10:22.51 | jason_ukfsn | dummy what sound card do you have? |
| 10:23.00 | dummy | via ac 97 |
| 10:23.01 | dummy | built in |
| 10:23.14 | dummy | i use opensoynd drivers cuz they give you 5.1 output |
| 10:23.18 | dummy | opensound |
| 10:23.38 | dummy | i believe 2.4.20 suppports it but im not using it |
| 10:25.39 | jason_ukfsn | hmm, It is years since I used the OSS drivers other than those included with the standard kernel. |
| 10:26.10 | dummy | yeah sound cards are really annoying especially if they rnt compatible |
| 10:29.32 | jason_ukfsn | dummy - I've edited the .config file a little for you. Mostly it was OK however there were one or two tweaks I made. The edited version is at http://www.jasonclifford.com/dummy-config Note that I am compiling it at the moment just to be sure that it does however I wont boot it as it does not match my system |
| 10:30.28 | dummy | so i jsur replace the .config and remake it? |
| 10:30.39 | dummy | k thnks a lot for ur help and time... |
| 10:31.20 | jason_ukfsn | replace the .config with the file at the above link. Then type in the following "make dep && make clean && make bzImage && make modules" |
| 10:31.32 | dummy | k kewl |
| 10:31.47 | jason_ukfsn | After that finishes make install and make install_modules however do remember to remove the previous modules install. |
| 10:32.02 | dummy | i ahve a P4 :) |
| 10:32.10 | dummy | not p3 so imma change that |
| 10:32.17 | jason_ukfsn | In that case you need to change the PIII setting |
| 10:33.59 | jason_ukfsn | I take it that it's safe for me to remove the config file from my website now? |
| 10:34.56 | dummy | yes |
| 10:34.57 | dummy | thnks |
| 10:35.05 | dummy | i should disbale the sound i guess |
| 10:35.18 | dummy | wont be using it :) |
| 10:35.32 | jason_ukfsn | Follow the instructions provided on the OSS site for that one. |
| 10:35.48 | dummy | oh yes i have to jsut install the opensound drivers they amke their own modules |
| 10:37.23 | jason_ukfsn | have fun then. |
| 10:37.32 | dummy | thnks again |
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| 10:48.05 | dummy | still no luck |
| 10:52.42 | jason_ukfsn | Are you getting the same error message from modprobe? What do you have in your /etc/modules.conf? |
| 10:53.22 | dummy | alias eth0 3c59x |
| 10:53.38 | dummy | The chassis still open, I turn the computer on in single user mode. I do a insmod 3c59x, the kernel complains about unresoled symbols, of course, since I linked it to the pci-scan module, I do insmod pci-scan, ok, insmod 3c59x and... the kernel accepts it! |
| 10:53.43 | dummy | im reading up about it |
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| 11:39.56 | oops | hi all |
| 11:53.00 | dpash | anyone know what encoding stuff like =20 and =E4 is? |
| 11:53.03 | jason_ukfsn | hello oops |
| 11:53.59 | nasrat | dpash: It's quoted-printable IIRC |
| 11:54.09 | dpash | cheers |
| 11:54.28 | jason_ukfsn | yes, suffering lag once again. I suspect there is a lag monster on my local NTL net |
| 11:54.52 | highbury | dpash: its to do with mime encoding IIRC |
| 11:55.25 | dpash | anything to convert it to utf-8? |
| 11:55.40 | highbury | and some mail servers/software has to fold text at 72 (?) chars so must show where to fold lines back |
| 11:56.32 | nasrat | dpash: it's =hh so you should be able to do it with perl. |
| 11:56.51 | highbury | its probably a perl one-liner, but you have to google around for a more precise explanation |
| 11:57.58 | nasrat | MIME::QuotedPrint |
| 11:58.57 | dpash | qp-decode |
| 11:59.03 | dpash | apt-cache to the rescue |
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| 12:09.27 | oops | ;) bye |
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| 13:48.44 | highbury | anybody got any amusing OpenSource jokes? |
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| 13:54.07 | resuDaed | afternoon all |
| 13:59.36 | Huhn | hi resuDaed |
| 13:59.43 | resuDaed | hi Huhn |
| 14:00.11 | resuDaed | its been about 5-6 weeks since I have logged in at this time during a weekday |
| 14:00.51 | resuDaed | Huhn : what mail client do you use? |
| 14:00.59 | Huhn | resuDaed: mutt |
| 14:01.48 | resuDaed | does it delete msgs by default? |
| 14:02.07 | Huhn | delete when moving to other folders? or what do you mean? |
| 14:02.23 | resuDaed | don;t wirry |
| 14:02.33 | Stephen | it'll only delete messages if you mark them as deleted |
| 14:03.56 | SpudUAway | resuDaed: Canada, I think. |
| 14:06.10 | resuDaed | SpudUAway : ah |
| 14:20.13 | Huhn | resuDaed: try procmail to sort mails before using mutt |
| 14:20.23 | resuDaed | fetchmail? |
| 14:20.39 | Huhn | fetchmail to get mails, procmail to sort them, mutt to read them |
| 14:20.46 | resuDaed | ah |
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| 14:22.14 | Stephen | yep, using mutt means you end up using a million other programs too |
| 14:22.35 | resuDaed | I like mutt, looks nice over ssh |
| 14:22.50 | resuDaed | (of major importance) |
| 14:23.11 | Stephen | oh, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't switch to anything else |
| 14:23.48 | resuDaed | I have a ton of security reports RE: magnus@brian.resudaed.com (eye69) |
| 14:24.53 | Stephen | nice homepage there resuDaed :) |
| 14:25.07 | resuDaed | I need a hotkey for mutt, [ctrl]+[m] is Moz, [ctrl]+[shift]+[m] is xmms |
| 14:25.20 | resuDaed | Stephen : what, the snippit from my apache logs |
| 14:25.38 | Stephen | yer, all the IIS exploits |
| 14:26.25 | resuDaed | needed something in there because I needed apache on port 80, but didn't havce time to write a homepage |
| 14:27.49 | resuDaed | Stephen : I get hundreds every day |
| 14:28.03 | resuDaed | more than I get actual hits since I moved the mp3 dir |
| 14:28.13 | resuDaed | (mp3.resudaed.com) |
| 14:28.30 | Stephen | hehe, I haven't actually read my http logs in a long time |
| 14:28.56 | resuDaed | I had to move my mp3s ... they started appearing in search engines |
| 14:29.35 | resuDaed | (they used to be brian.servemp3.com) |
| 14:31.41 | resuDaed | ok, for some reason I have lost my fetchmail conf ... so I need to setup fetchmail, procmail, spamassassin(?) |
| 14:32.33 | resuDaed | and is it possible to change key bindings in mutt? I prefer the ways of the text www browsers (<- goes back a screen, -> goes forward, as opposed to it going through mails |
| 14:36.12 | Huhn | resuDaed: spamassassin can be called from procmail, no prob |
| 14:36.32 | Huhn | key bindings in mutt are possible, yes |
| 14:42.01 | murb | do people *still* use procmail? |
| 14:42.06 | murb | i mean why? |
| 14:42.15 | resuDaed | I apologise for my lacking upstream, I only have 128k UP |
| 14:42.22 | resuDaed | murb : why not? |
| 14:42.28 | Huhn | murb: I use it, what's wrong with that? |
| 14:42.37 | Stephen | me too |
| 14:42.46 | murb | Huhn: nothing. |
| 14:42.59 | Huhn | then why do you ask why? :) |
| 14:43.04 | murb | and does an mkdir mp3 |
| 14:43.25 | resuDaed | murb : have you taken your medication today? |
| 14:45.05 | murb | nope, i can't take my ritalin supply outside the uk without tricky questions from customs |
| 14:45.19 | Huhn | what's ritalin? |
| 14:46.30 | resuDaed | ok, for some reason, fetchmailconf is failing, anyone have any suggestions (or can lend me their conf files) |
| 14:46.54 | Tarragon | Ritalin is a child activity control drug |
| 14:47.12 | Tarragon | Methylphenidate Hydrochloride |
| 14:47.33 | Huhn | ah, that fits |
| 14:47.42 | resuDaed | lol |
| 14:47.59 | Huhn | resuDaed: don't have a .fetchmailrc handy right now, sorry |
| 14:48.40 | resuDaed | if I set up the ~/.fetchmailrc, will fetchmail run as a daemon? |
| 14:49.03 | resuDaed | there is only 1 user (me) that needs to receive emails on this account |
| 14:49.11 | resuDaed | s/account/box |
| 14:49.12 | Stephen | resuDaed: it isn't very advanced, but http://wwwusers.brookes.ac.uk/02164690/fetchmailrc |
| 14:49.25 | murb | fetchmail is considerably worse than procmail in the bad things list |
| 14:49.51 | zachary | highbury: Need a joke? |
| 14:49.55 | Stephen | resuDaed: you don't need to set anything to run as a daemon, just use fetchmail -d x where x is the number of seconds between each poll |
| 14:50.01 | highbury | not necessarily ESR's proudest moments |
| 14:50.25 | murb | i was scared when he said he was going to stop doing public speaking and spend more time behind a keyboard writting code. |
| 14:50.33 | Stephen | hmm, I get along fine with fetchmail, what does everyone else use then? |
| 14:50.38 | highbury | useful though, and was an important example of OpenSource in its time |
| 14:50.47 | highbury | zachary: fire away |
| 14:51.10 | murb | highbury: i read the cathederal and the bazzar, but couldn't understand how fetchmail could be considered to have anything to do with it as a case study. |
| 14:51.24 | Huhn | Stephen: I get the feeling that us 2 are a bit old fashioned here ;) |
| 14:51.48 | Stephen | Huhn: yer, it's looking that way ;) |
| 14:52.14 | Huhn | Stephen: and you know what? I'm proud ;) at least I can claim that I started with Unix, not Linux ;)) |
| 14:52.52 | murb | Huhn: which Unix? |
| 14:52.57 | Stephen | Huhn: I can't, I've only recently used solaris, other than that I've only ever used Linux |
| 14:53.21 | highbury | need OpenSource jokes, though |
| 14:54.03 | murb | opensores? |
| 14:54.16 | Stephen | not bad there murb :) |
| 14:54.20 | highbury | apposite |
| 14:54.57 | murb | http://opensores.thebunker.net |
| 14:55.10 | murb | # not mind etc, citing sores etc. |
| 14:55.16 | Huhn | murb: some old Solaris stuff that was installed on the machines at our computer centre.. long time ago :) |
| 14:55.23 | resuDaed | what is the %T in the conf? |
| 14:55.34 | resuDaed | ^-- Stephen |
| 14:55.50 | resuDaed | for the procmail command |
| 14:55.59 | highbury | Version 6 on PDP11.45 |
| 14:56.34 | murb | Huhn: it reflects badly if it was a uni system and you used it after linux was avalible, or after murble had used his first unix system. |
| 14:56.37 | Stephen | resuDaed: um, iirc, it makes procmail add the From: field in the message correctly, so that it doesn't keep appending to the same message |
| 14:56.54 | murb | ('due to me being about 10 years younger than you) |
| 14:57.19 | highbury | murb: I see no jokes there |
| 14:57.50 | murb | highbury: i didn't think huhns age was funny either. |
| 14:58.05 | murb | are you putting together a presentation *with* jokes? |
| 14:58.14 | murb | is somsone going to do a lvm talk for end lusers? |
| 14:59.10 | highbury | I just thought I'd try one out tonight |
| 14:59.29 | Tarragon | highbury: Opensource is a joke. Been around 20 years and look just how many security reports there are. Windows is new but no security reports. |
| 15:00.15 | Stephen | hehe Tarragon |
| 15:00.43 | Tarragon | Not mine sadly. old joke. |
| 15:01.13 | Huhn | highbury: what presentation? |
| 15:01.33 | murb | what is tonight? |
| 15:06.48 | Tarragon | You could always do the "if MS made cars/planes/guns/VCRs/TV dinners/toasters/..." stories. That way you could add your own GNU or Open Source ones as well |
| 15:09.04 | resuDaed | Stephen : have you got a .procmailrc I could have a look @? |
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| 15:10.11 | Stephen | resuDaed: indeed, it's all in parts though, and it's frighteningly unadvanced, I really could do with rewriting it |
| 15:10.41 | resuDaed | I just need something to hack that works |
| 15:10.59 | Stephen | okay, one second, sorting a customer out :) |
| 15:11.11 | highbury | http://www.spiked-online.com/events/default.htm |
| 15:11.37 | resuDaed | may I recomend hitting him with 'Linux For Dummies' |
| 15:12.41 | dummy | lol |
| 15:13.26 | resuDaed | lol |
| 15:14.12 | resuDaed | ohh, someone is giving my upstream a run for its money ... |
| 15:14.21 | resuDaed | just as well I am not trying to use it |
| 15:14.58 | murb | what game are you playing? |
| 15:15.40 | Huhn | murb: Moorhuhn |
| 15:15.48 | Stephen | resuDaed: http://wwwusers.brookes.ac.uk/02164690/files/.procmailrc and http://wwwusers.brookes.ac.uk/02164690/files/.procmail/brookes.rc etc. for the individual .rc files |
| 15:16.40 | resuDaed | Stephen : thanks |
| 15:16.58 | Stephen | nps |
| 15:17.26 | murb | Stephen: is the entirty of brookes ecn broken? |
| 15:17.30 | eye69 | resuDaed: UT? |
| 15:17.34 | murb | and are they setting the evil bit? |
| 15:17.42 | Stephen | I must actually get around to actually sorting my mail out, I'd kinda like to move to IMAP |
| 15:17.53 | resuDaed | eye69 ?? |
| 15:18.13 | Stephen | murb: ecn? |
| 15:18.15 | eye69 | resuDaed: Would you like to play UT? |
| 15:18.40 | resuDaed | eye69 : ok, but give me a second, I need to find (and warm up) my cup of coffee |
| 15:19.00 | eye69 | I'm off for a shower anyway...bb in 15 |
| 15:21.42 | resuDaed | eye69 : ok, I'll start a DM in about 10 on resudaed.com |
| 15:22.36 | murb | Stephen: ECN Ecplicit Congestion Notification |
| 15:22.42 | murb | basically brookes are being broken. |
| 15:23.20 | resuDaed | does anyone else in here play unreal tournament? |
| 15:23.47 | dummy | i used to |
| 15:23.48 | Stephen | murb: no idea, sorry |
| 15:23.54 | dummy | but i always cheated resuDaed :) |
| 15:24.33 | resuDaed | dummy : well I'll be hosting in 10 mins or so, DM |
| 15:24.43 | dummy | kewl i dont have it anymore |
| 15:24.52 | resuDaed | ah well |
| 15:25.00 | dummy | thnks though |
| 15:25.08 | dummy | i might get rtcw back |
| 15:25.14 | resuDaed | when I do, I'll be killing apache |
| 15:25.15 | dummy | works pretty well under linux |
| 15:26.56 | resuDaed | works fine, although games under linux generally have a slightly higher cpu overhead |
| 15:28.00 | resuDaed | although when I was using windows, I had a 400MHz Processor and 128MB RAM, I now have 1.8GHz and 256MB RAM for linux, so I am slightly biased towards gaming under linux |
| 15:28.20 | dummy | i ahve 2.66 ghz 1gb ram :) |
| 15:28.41 | resuDaed | although I only have 256kB L2 cache |
| 15:29.01 | dummy | 533 mhz here |
| 15:29.40 | resuDaed | my Compaq 266 has 280MB RAM, but a 512kB L2 cache |
| 15:29.47 | resuDaed | (266 MHz, P2) |
| 15:29.50 | highbury | dual Pentium II 400MHz + 256M memory + onboard SCSI |
| 15:30.11 | dummy | need to reboot and test out this kernel which never works |
| 15:30.11 | Stephen | nice |
| 15:30.21 | dummy | does anyone use the 3com fast etherlink here? |
| 15:30.28 | dummy | 3c509 or 3c509x |
| 15:30.32 | resuDaed | highbury : I make do with a PCI SCSI card |
| 15:30.55 | Stephen | heh, I get by with a PCI ATA card |
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| 15:37.24 | eye69 | resuDaed: Shoot |
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| 15:38.20 | resuDaed | eye69 : ok, give me a couple of minutes, I need to re-do my key bindings |
| 15:38.47 | resuDaed | apache is going down for anyone downloading mp3s ;-) |
| 15:38.53 | eye69 | Btw, have you downloaded the bonuspacks? |
| 15:39.12 | resuDaed | eye69 : no, I have installed 436 from CD only |
| 15:39.25 | eye69 | Ok. I'll put them up if you want them. |
| 15:39.26 | resuDaed | ooh, my b/width looks so much healthier now |
| 15:39.34 | resuDaed | ok, thanks |
| 15:43.28 | eye69 | Start with 'apt-get install umodpack' |
| 15:47.42 | resuDaed | done |
| 15:47.57 | eye69 | The first file will be done in a minute. |
| 15:48.11 | eye69 | I wish BlueYonder would allow full speed between BY customers. |
| 15:48.49 | resuDaed | me too, I have had the same problems with transfers between ma & Clyphox/A4266 |
| 15:49.19 | eye69 | Ok, http://upcore.net/ut/ |
| 15:49.24 | eye69 | # 1 is done |
| 15:49.50 | resuDaed | d/l and unzip where? |
| 15:49.54 | eye69 | # 2 is done |
| 15:50.03 | eye69 | Unzip to /tmp |
| 15:51.06 | eye69 | Then, as root (provided you installed UT as root), run 'umod -b /usr/local/games/ut -i filename.umod' |
| 15:51.38 | resuDaed | eye69 : except I had to install to /var/games/ut :-) |
| 15:51.48 | resuDaed | (was the only partition with the space) |
| 15:52.09 | eye69 | Oh. :) |
| 15:52.47 | eye69 | Inoxx done |
| 15:52.52 | eye69 | Downloading the last one now. |
| 15:53.00 | resuDaed | not an issue now, but I was running 15GB with only .8GB free on the whole disk, / had 100MB or so left, /home was full |
| 15:53.16 | eye69 | A bit better now. |
| 15:54.24 | resuDaed | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:54.24 | resuDaed | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:54.24 | resuDaed | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:54.42 | eye69 | Heh, yeah. |
| 15:55.04 | eye69 | /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target8/lun0/part2 |
| 15:55.04 | eye69 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:55.08 | eye69 | /dev/mapper/vg0-usr 7.9G 5.3G 2.5G 69% /usr |
| 15:55.08 | eye69 | /dev/mapper/vg0-home 15G 1.2G 13G 9% /home |
| 15:56.26 | resuDaed | eye69 : is it possible to invoke a second X from X without using any xinitrc and imediatly invoking a program? |
| 15:57.18 | resuDaed | ie startx running only ut, but leave my first X alone |
| 15:58.28 | nasrat | resuDaed: man xinit |
| 15:58.40 | resuDaed | I am reading atm |
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| 16:03.08 | resuDaed | xinit /usr/bin/aterm -e /var/games/ut/ut -- :1 |
| 16:03.22 | resuDaed | works from outside X |
| 16:03.28 | jenson | hiya resuDaed |
| 16:04.02 | resuDaed | hey jenson ; I am trying to up my fps on unreal by running a second x server |
| 16:04.23 | jenson | you still doingstuff with your X server, what fun! |
| 16:04.33 | jenson | Did you get the files you wanted from Clyphox last night? |
| 16:04.37 | resuDaed | this is much more fun, when it works, I play unreal |
| 16:04.49 | resuDaed | jenson : yeah, about 1.5GB worth |
| 16:04.50 | nasrat | Cheers Tarragon - I'm a big fan of Wychwood ales |
| 16:05.16 | resuDaed | nasrat : do you know how to overcome the problem of xinit refusing to run from inside x? |
| 16:05.43 | resuDaed | (I want to invoke from bbkeys, so being inside x is pretty important |
| 16:06.00 | jenson | zimm was always saying that my X config ignores itself, and I'm starting to believe him |
| 16:07.00 | nasrat | resuDaed: try X :1 to start with |
| 16:07.43 | resuDaed | nasrat : I am able to run the second server np, but I cannot invoke it from X |
| 16:07.54 | resuDaed | X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. |
| 16:10.08 | eye69 | resuDaed: It works as root. |
| 16:10.21 | eye69 | resuDaed: You should be able to loosen that security a bit. |
| 16:10.36 | nasrat | resuDaed: you can export XINITRC=.xinitrcgames |
| 16:10.52 | nasrat | resuDaed: check out http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/ |
| 16:11.33 | nasrat | http://freefall.homeip.net/stuff/quakescript/ |
| 16:17.39 | resuDaed | so why is it that I am getting user not authorized to run the X server? |
| 16:17.47 | resuDaed | as normal user? |
| 16:18.02 | nasrat | resuDaed: before you run it run xauth add :1 . $(mcookie) |
| 16:18.09 | resuDaed | (the same user that invoked it from console in the first place |
| 16:19.11 | nasrat | resuDaed: then xinit -- :1 -auth $XAUTHORITY |
| 16:19.53 | resuDaed | done, its working fine |
| 16:20.43 | resuDaed | actually, its not |
| 16:20.50 | nasrat | you should be able to script that,etc. Sorry it's been a while since I've played with xauth (ssh is your friend...) |
| 16:21.29 | nasrat | resuDaed: what's wrong |
| 16:21.31 | resuDaed | so I need to run the xauth command every time I run the xinit command (for :1) |
| 16:21.58 | resuDaed | tom@brian:~$ xauth add :1 . $(mcookie) |
| 16:21.58 | resuDaed | xauth: /home/tom/.Xauthority not writable, changes will be ignored |
| 16:22.27 | resuDaed | ah, its owned by root |
| 16:22.47 | nasrat | it probably shouldn't be :) |
| 16:25.51 | dummy | i just build the 2.4.20 kernel on slack 8.1 and i use the 3c59x module for my ethernet card...upon boot up i get a series of messages such as |
| 16:25.57 | dummy | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:26.01 | dummy | anyone know wassup? |
| 16:26.18 | dummy | http://toxicity.ath.cx:81/doc <--errors by modprobe and insmod |
| 16:27.07 | resuDaed | and now I've deleted .Xauthority |
| 16:27.33 | resuDaed | doh |
| 16:27.36 | resuDaed | grrr |
| 16:27.53 | nasrat | resuDaed: you'll probably want to add :0 then too |
| 16:28.41 | Stephen | dummy: why not just compile it in? |
| 16:29.25 | dummy | Stephen: i tried that too |
| 16:30.02 | dummy | if i compile it in how would ig et it up n running..I tried using netconfig |
| 16:30.08 | dummy | but it couldnt probe for any cards |
| 16:31.11 | nasrat | dummy: is this vanilla 2.4.20 |
| 16:31.13 | resuDaed | tom@brian:~$ xauth add :0 . $(mcookie) |
| 16:31.21 | resuDaed | xauth: error in locking authority file /home/tom/.Xauthority |
| 16:31.26 | dummy | nope |
| 16:31.28 | cup | night |
| 16:31.34 | Stephen | dummy: try using ifconfig, not netconfig |
| 16:31.38 | dummy | its supported by the kernel |
| 16:31.55 | jenson | grr the internet is dying on me |
| 16:32.36 | dummy | ifcongig etho boradcast gateway netmask up right? |
| 16:32.44 | dummy | 0 |
| 16:33.28 | Stephen | actually, you just be able to run /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 |
| 16:33.34 | Stephen | +should |
| 16:33.43 | jenson | resuDaed: If I want a partition that is readable and writeable from both Win and Linux which filesytem do I want, coz I completly fscked it all up last time. |
| 16:34.56 | dummy | true Stephen |
| 16:35.02 | dummy | imma try that i'll rebuild it |
| 16:35.34 | nasrat | jenson: fat32 (vfat) |
| 16:35.40 | Stephen | jenson: vfat probably, but it's hardly optimal |
| 16:35.52 | jenson | ty |
| 16:36.13 | resuDaed | jenson : either vfat or ext2 (ex2 only if you are running widnows NT5+ |
| 16:36.46 | resuDaed | jenson : or build a server, and run NFS/samba shares |
| 16:37.09 | jenson | resuDaed: I'm an idiot newbie gurl |
| 16:38.14 | resuDaed | jenson vfat should be easily readable from both, however I've never seen linux run at a decent speed from vfat |
| 16:38.50 | resuDaed | nasrat : I have the .Xauthority file now with the 2 cookies added |
| 16:39.00 | nasrat | is X working ok then :) |
| 16:39.28 | resuDaed | tom@brian:~$ xinit -- :1 |
| 16:39.30 | resuDaed | X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. |
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| 16:40.03 | resuDaed | but it works if I sudo xinit |
| 16:40.04 | nasrat | resuDaed: xinit -- :1 -auth $XAUTHORITY |
| 16:40.04 | jenson | Damn thing |
| 16:40.07 | jenson | BRB anayway |
| 16:40.27 | resuDaed | tom@brian:~$ xinit -- :1 -auth $XAUTHORITY |
| 16:40.29 | resuDaed | X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. |
| 16:40.37 | nasrat | resuDaed: works for me as non root user (although I didn't trash my .Xauthority) |
| 16:41.02 | resuDaed | tom@brian:~$ xauth add :0 . $(mcookie) |
| 16:41.02 | resuDaed | tom@brian:~$ xauth add :1 . $(mcookie) |
| 16:41.09 | resuDaed | ^-- both ran fine |
| 16:41.13 | nasrat | hmm |
| 16:42.10 | resuDaed | I'd rather not be running games as root really |
| 16:42.15 | jenson | back |
| 16:42.18 | resuDaed | wb |
| 16:42.22 | jenson | ty |
| 16:42.57 | jenson | I think I'll try the whole partition thing again tonight, and probably fsck it up again |
| 16:43.05 | nasrat | resuDaed: I think you may need to do some xauth magic, are you in a position to restart X then just add the :1 display to xauth then try the xinit |
| 16:43.10 | resuDaed | ah well, it'll make do for now |
| 16:43.59 | eye69 | resuDaed: Are we on? |
| 16:45.28 | resuDaed | eye69 : just installing the bonus packs |
| 16:45.33 | resuDaed | sry :-) |
| 16:45.46 | resuDaed | actually, doesn't need to be done now, give you a game anyway |
| 16:45.53 | eye69 | Yup. |
| 16:46.10 | eye69 | More maps with those installed though |
| 16:46.36 | eye69 | Anyway, I'll fire it up. |
| 16:47.06 | resuDaed | ok, any preferecnes on rules/maps/bots? |
| 16:47.19 | resuDaed | (v436 again) |
| 16:47.43 | *** join/#gllug dummy (~dummy@pool-141-149-79-143.bing.east.verizon.net) |
| 16:48.24 | dummy | see Stephen now that plan bombed cuz modporbe cant find device etho so ifconfig renders useless and the built in driver cant be started by inet1 cuz it require eth0 up for it |
| 16:48.35 | eye69 | Nah |
| 16:49.03 | Stephen | dummy: you don't need modprobe if it's compiled in |
| 16:49.12 | dummy | yeah but its in rc.modules |
| 16:49.28 | dummy | dont wanna keep enabling/disabling it you know |
| 16:49.59 | dummy | ive been on this for hrs there has to be something im doin wrong here |
| 16:50.55 | resuDaed | started |
| 17:15.37 | dpash | hi all |
| 17:15.47 | Tarragon | Evening |
| 17:16.12 | dpash | not as councillor, but to see what they are up to |
| 17:16.48 | Tarragon | Bet they are all on their best behaviour for you. |
| 17:17.08 | dpash | Tarragon: they better be, cos I'll give them a kick up the arse next motnh |
| 17:17.15 | murb | dpahs: you're not getting obsessed with this councilor thing? |
| 17:17.21 | murb | you keep mentioning it. |
| 17:17.33 | dpash | the only problem is that some meetings clash with mklug |
| 17:17.37 | Tarragon | Take a pen and paper to make notes. |
| 17:17.37 | dpash | murb: of cource |
| 17:17.48 | dpash | Tarragon: I'll be lucky if I get minutes |
| 17:17.58 | dpash | Tarragon: that'll scare them |
| 17:18.19 | Tarragon | Could you record it? |
| 17:18.51 | dpash | yeah. probably |
| 17:19.14 | dpash | Extra Extra Larry Ellison says desktop linux isn't awful |
| 17:19.24 | Tarragon | ISDN line is obviously for the web server. |
| 17:19.38 | dpash | Tarragon: hmmm |
| 17:20.58 | dpash | or s/conspiracy/cabal/ |
| 17:21.35 | murb | won't they just have you shot? |
| 17:21.55 | dpash | murb: they can't. I'm joining their ranks next month |
| 17:23.05 | dpash_cabal_dest | bugger |
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| 17:29.24 | dpash | hi paul |
| 17:30.00 | nasrat | hi |
| 17:35.43 | dpash | okay too bored. going home |
| 17:36.00 | dpash | night all |
| 17:38.33 | Stephen | cya dpash |
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| 18:00.57 | HuhnFIDDLE | bye |
| 18:01.11 | Jenson | seeya HuhnFIDDLE |
| 18:01.25 | Jenson | I just got into a conversation with a bot, before remembering it was abot lol |
| 18:02.50 | murb | byebye huhnfiddler |
| 18:04.42 | nasrat | how do you feel about bots Jenson? |
| 18:05.52 | Jenson | nasrat: Fine, but they are confusing. I think I want one though |
| 18:06.05 | Jenson | ibot lart bots |
| 18:07.52 | nasrat | Jenson: would you like bots if they were not confusing? |
| 18:08.54 | Jenson | nasrat: Don't use bot langauge lol |
| 18:09.19 | nasrat | Eliza rocks |
| 18:09.35 | Jenson | nasrat: Yeah it was an elizabot lol |
| 18:09.42 | Jenson | I want an elizabot |
| 18:10.14 | nasrat | Chatbot::Eliza from cpan |
| 18:11.33 | nasrat | Jenson: http://www.linux-mag.com/cgi-bin/printer.pl?issue=1999-06&article=perl |
| 18:12.00 | Jenson | nasrat: I'll look in a minute, I'm installing my soundcard - which I'm having to read all off of logs |
| 18:19.14 | Jenson | BBS |
| 18:21.58 | *** join/#gllug Jenson (1000@dial81-131-0-161.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 18:23.28 | Jenson | Does anyone think that having 128MB RAM and 197MB swap I would benefit from increasing the size of my swap partition? |
| 18:24.13 | eye69 | Haha, resuDaed is so inferior/ :) |
| 18:26.49 | eye69 | Jenson: You'd notice if you ran out of memory |
| 18:27.36 | Jenson | eye69: Yeh well KDE seems to like to crash out browsers at times, resuDaed said it might be a memory problem |
| 18:28.17 | eye69 | How much is taken right now? Paste the output of 'free' |
| 18:29.11 | Jenson | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.12 | Jenson | Mem: 126352 122012 4340 0 3684 51664 |
| 18:29.12 | Jenson | -/+ buffers/cache: 66664 59688 |
| 18:29.12 | Jenson | Swap: 0 0 0 |
| 18:30.03 | eye69 | Uhm........ |
| 18:30.13 | eye69 | You don't have any activated swap according to that... |
| 18:30.33 | Jenson | i noticed |
| 18:30.37 | Jenson | maybe it isnt installed right |
| 18:30.43 | Jenson | i think i'll reinstall it |
| 18:30.47 | eye69 | What's the name of your swap partition? |
| 18:31.00 | Jenson | hda3 |
| 18:31.49 | eye69 | /dev/sdb3 none swap sw 0 0 |
| 18:32.18 | eye69 | That's the swap line from /etc/fstab on my machine. Check if you have something similar in your /etc/fstab |
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| 18:32.57 | Jenson | erm nope |
| 18:33.03 | Jenson | lol |
| 18:33.14 | Jenson | i had a feeling it shouldnt say I dont have swap |
| 18:33.18 | Jenson | ibot lart slackware |
| 18:33.27 | Leeds | ibot lart Jenson |
| 18:33.38 | Jenson | Leeds: lol i had good reason |
| 18:33.45 | Jenson | and good evening Leeds |
| 18:34.31 | Jenson | anyway. I'm off to sort that out, and sort my win install out |
| 18:34.35 | Jenson | I'll see you guys later |
| 18:37.48 | nasrat | lo Leeds |
| 18:39.10 | Leeds | hey nasrat |
| 18:40.10 | zachary | evening eye69 Leeds nasrat |
| 18:40.31 | Leeds | hey zachary |
| 18:41.52 | nasrat | tell me about it more redundancies in my work this week :( |
| 18:41.58 | Leeds | nasrat: :-( |
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| 18:42.34 | nasrat | not me but "I have a bad feeling ..." |
| 18:42.40 | zachary | evening formi |
| 18:43.05 | nasrat | oh well just made my first lkml post :) |
| 18:44.50 | nasrat | anyway enough wibbling I should go to meet ppl - have a fun night you all :) |
| 18:45.11 | Leeds | seeya |
| 18:52.51 | formi | hello |
| 18:53.09 | formi | i keep forgetting xchat is running |
| 18:55.07 | formi | zachary: did you have any connectivity problems yesterday? |
| 18:55.41 | zachary | yes |
| 18:55.57 | zachary | all day. |
| 18:56.10 | formi | one of my charity crew was complaining about aol not working |
| 18:56.24 | formi | i know about the bt screw up, |
| 18:56.45 | formi | got a call, saying "formi I can't connect to the server" |
| 18:56.59 | zachary | it wasn't on the status line, what was wrong with bt? |
| 18:57.08 | formi | tracerouted, and found 2 machines playing ball with the packets |
| 18:58.30 | zachary | lovely :o/ |
| 18:58.54 | formi | i got some info from the pipex network status page |
| 18:59.08 | formi | they have it so easy, they can always blame bt |
| 18:59.46 | Leeds | zachary: look at the register |
| 19:00.04 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:00.46 | formi | what I found odd is that two adsl connected client machines were playing with the packets |
| 19:00.57 | formi | usually it is pipex routers on the game |
| 19:02.35 | formi | unbelievable what people do |
| 19:02.48 | formi | waiting for 6 minutes for oo to start |
| 19:03.33 | formi | my patience usually vaporizes after 10sec, and I run a p2 366 |
| 19:04.49 | formi | ok, so aol was officially hit, customer support drones told Caroline that her modem wasn't supported by aol, and to take it back to the shop, |
| 19:05.20 | formi | after being working for a month, they somehow forgot to tell her the network was down |
| 19:07.27 | Leeds | my cousin uses AOL, customer service told her her modem was broken... I set her up with a free Freeserve account to prove the modem worked, then told her to call AOL back and play hell with them |
| 19:07.46 | formi | zachary: you would have found out if you had read the gllug list |
| 19:08.08 | formi | Leeds: can you confirm there is no grammatical mistakes on my last sentence? |
| 19:08.29 | Leeds | formi: looks good to me |
| 19:08.54 | formi | this complicated past tenses annoy me |
| 19:09.48 | formi | in castillian, you can have really twisted tenses, galician has no composite past tenses, and english is a mess as usual |
| 19:10.20 | zachary | formi: I will not disagree with you! :-) |
| 19:11.11 | formi | galicians believe: if it is in the past, it is in the past. So no need to be complicated about it |
| 19:11.44 | zachary | sounds resonable to me. |
| 19:12.05 | formi | castillian has about 1/3 more past tenses that english, |
| 19:12.37 | formi | and a few more that us english, :-> |
| 19:16.34 | zachary | Gotta go, need to scan some ultrasound pictures. (Another rugrat is on it's way) |
| 19:16.48 | formi | ? |
| 19:16.53 | formi | rugrat? |
| 19:17.29 | zachary | baby, infant, rugrat! |
| 19:17.54 | formi | another one? |
| 19:18.42 | formi | i suppose some people have to make up for the likes of me who find the idea not very pleasant |
| 19:18.56 | *** join/#gllug jenson (1000@dial81-131-106-48.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 19:18.59 | zachary | found out before we left for the states, just had a doctors appointment yesterday. |
| 19:19.21 | zachary | As planned this is the last one. |
| 19:19.25 | jenson | grrr, i've just killed linux again, i think i'm gonna give up |
| 19:19.39 | formi | well I wish you both, tons of patience and health for the 4 of you |
| 19:19.40 | zachary | I'm going to make sure of that, by all medical means possible. |
| 19:20.00 | formi | hey don't do a bobbit!!! |
| 19:20.33 | zachary | Don't worry, I won't. I don't have deamons in my head. |
| 19:21.11 | zachary | formi: you mean andrea yates? |
| 19:21.34 | formi | Lorena Bobbit, or something like that |
| 19:21.45 | jenson | + |
| 19:21.54 | jenson | oops lol |
| 19:22.03 | zachary | Sorry, now I get it. H*&LL no i'm not inflicting that much pain on myself. |
| 19:23.39 | formi | it only takes a second |
| 19:24.20 | jenson | i wish i had a camera, im making a nice mass of cables here. 2 computers a set of speakers and a discman |
| 19:25.20 | formi | yes please, I need another photo for unixsex.com |
| 19:26.11 | eye69 | formi: Decided on a DVD player? |
| 19:26.51 | formi | yeap we went for the tosh at dvdworld.co.uk |
| 19:27.01 | eye69 | Cool |
| 19:27.08 | eye69 | Hope it's a lucky strike |
| 19:27.26 | formi | it was very similar to the one you suggested |
| 19:27.43 | formi | lucky strike, like the fags? |
| 19:27.56 | formi | bad joke i know |
| 19:28.32 | formi | actually the person who approved for it in the last instance was a fellow citizen of yours |
| 19:29.27 | eye69 | Okie |
| 19:29.37 | formi | sw2 |
| 19:31.58 | formi | brb |
| 19:37.39 | jenson | BRB |
| 19:38.18 | formi | I have a question, it just occured to me |
| 19:38.57 | formi | is xchat doing a reverse dns lookup on the users list which is displayed? |
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| 19:56.40 | new2unix | hi all |
| 20:05.09 | Leeds | formi: probably not |
| 20:05.18 | Leeds | the server probably is |
| 20:06.38 | Clyphox | re |
| 20:07.30 | *** join/#gllug jenson (~jenson@64.246.28.105) |
| 20:08.49 | eye69 | Quitter. |
| 20:09.41 | jenson | well yeh, i can get gnome to run but cant get online with gnome, and kde wont load, so i thought id format and reinstall my half dead wein install whilst chatting on another box iwth the keyboard on my lap |
| 20:09.53 | jenson | s/wein/win |
| 20:10.30 | eye69 | Can't get online with gnome? |
| 20:10.49 | eye69 | What does gnome have to do with getting online? |
| 20:11.07 | jenson | nah, i'm probably trying to set it up wrong, or i fscked the com port chanign the modem with the power on by accident |
| 20:11.18 | Leeds | eye69: yeah, but chill |
| 20:11.34 | jenson | i'm having a bad day lol |
| 20:11.44 | jenson | bad rat experience and bad kde experience |
| 20:12.00 | Leeds | robust audio tool? |
| 20:12.12 | jenson | no Leeds the animal kind |
| 20:13.32 | jenson | i did a minimal win install and it missed like a half essential drive |
| 20:13.45 | jenson | BRB |
| 20:15.26 | jenson | back |
| 20:16.06 | jenson | Linux was fine until I installed my swap (dunno why it wasnt installed) and added another Win partition. It was the extra win partition that completely killed the OS at the weekend |
| 20:19.48 | jenson | how is everyone else? |
| 20:31.54 | Clyphox | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:32.00 | Clyphox | Howzit |
| 20:32.04 | Clyphox | me goiod |
| 20:32.06 | Clyphox | er good |
| 20:32.07 | jenson | hey Clyphox |
| 20:32.14 | Leeds | not bad... tired - a long night of coding last night |
| 20:32.19 | Clyphox | resuDaed: ping |
| 20:32.29 | Clyphox | Leeds: sounds fun |
| 20:32.29 | jenson | I've had a bad rat day and a bad kde day, now I'm doing a Win install, but yeh I'm fine |
| 20:32.46 | Leeds | Clyphox: it was |
| 20:32.51 | Clyphox | I spent all day at the hospital |
| 20:32.54 | Clyphox | (yay) |
| 20:33.04 | jenson | Why Clyphox? |
| 20:33.10 | formi | jenson: you might know arguing with kde is hopeless |
| 20:33.27 | jenson | formi: yeh, why do you think i decided to fix my win iinstall instead |
| 20:33.28 | Clyphox | Mum tore her ligaments in her ancle this morn |
| 20:33.33 | formi | Leeds: doing some coding on the side? |
| 20:33.44 | jenson | Clyphox: Not nice, how'd she manage that? |
| 20:33.49 | formi | jenson: have you tried knoppix |
| 20:34.01 | jenson | formi: I still dont have a copy of knoppix |
| 20:34.04 | Clyphox | she's ok.. she's got drugs.. its me thats been in pain all day.. |
| 20:34.11 | jenson | i tried to burn one, but i think i did it wrong |
| 20:34.22 | jenson | Clyphox: And why are you in pain? |
| 20:34.26 | Leeds | formi: not on the side... writing a minial jabber client |
| 20:34.34 | Leeds | minimal |
| 20:34.39 | Clyphox | jenson: nusing my mum all day |
| 20:34.45 | jenson | Clyphox: Yeh, women lol |
| 20:35.23 | formi | Leeds: only with ssl support? |
| 20:35.47 | Leeds | formi: not really... I'm not a security freak |
| 20:36.11 | jenson | fucking windows, if i knew what drive letters it had assigned to what drivesi might actually be ablre to complete this install properly |
| 20:36.26 | formi | Leeds: you are a freak, full stop :-> |
| 20:36.35 | jenson | lol formi |
| 20:36.59 | Clyphox | bah.. where is resudaed.. |
| 20:37.21 | jenson | Clyphox: I dont think he's been here all evening |
| 20:37.59 | formi | Clyphox: he is being a bit zombie |
| 20:38.00 | Clyphox | he's playing games.. Beth is pissed off with him (and me off course) |
| 20:38.19 | jenson | Clyphox: isnt she pissed off with him half the time? |
| 20:38.39 | formi | jenson: that remark reminds me of somebody else |
| 20:38.48 | Clyphox | aits a constant.. with everyone.. she is perfect and the rest of the world 'aint |
| 20:38.58 | jenson | formi: nah were alright today |
| 20:39.07 | jenson | ah fuck, my fucking win instasll is fucked again |
| 20:39.27 | formi | jenson: make all of us a small favour, please!!! |
| 20:39.38 | jenson | yeh formi |
| 20:39.38 | Clyphox | muhahaha |
| 20:39.40 | zachary | jenson: Are you going to the next gllug meeting? |
| 20:39.43 | formi | jenson: stop using computers!!! |
| 20:39.47 | jenson | zachary: should be |
| 20:39.56 | jenson | formi: yeh would be a good idea |
| 20:41.11 | Leeds | jenson: you'd better come to my talk |
| 20:41.27 | jenson | Leeds: I just sit and smile, and then argue |
| 20:41.27 | Clyphox | What you talkin about? |
| 20:41.40 | Clyphox | I'm looking for a talk on Worl-Domination sometime.. |
| 20:42.05 | Leeds | Clyphox: see website or announcement... talking about shell programming for beginners |
| 20:42.05 | zachary | jenson: bring a blank cd and bug sean to make you a knoppix disc. |
| 20:42.18 | formi | Leeds: trying to get a least one victim??? :-P |
| 20:42.18 | Clyphox | Leeds: fun. |
| 20:42.23 | jenson | zachary: good idea, not that i need one, i just need to avoid linux |
| 20:42.30 | Clyphox | lol |
| 20:42.56 | jenson | my dad will kill me when he gets in and sees i still have one computer setup on the floor and one onj the desk |
| 20:42.58 | zachary | jenson: It's good to have a knoppix disc on hand. |
| 20:43.29 | jenson | zachary: i know, ive got one, but it doesnt seem to be bootable, i think it needs burning as an image even though itmisnt one |
| 20:44.47 | jenson | plus im gonna get killed for ruining my win install. i wouldnt be surprised if my dad bans any use of linux soon |
| 20:45.07 | jenson | he thinks linux caused every problem we ever had with windows (he used to blame everything on DOS games) |
| 20:46.00 | formi | jenson: that is the windows syndrome, blame everything by windows |
| 20:46.15 | jenson | formi: yeh i have 2 windows xp addixcted parents |
| 20:46.24 | formi | jenson: tell him to book himself on a mental institution |
| 20:46.38 | jenson | formi: itz me that needs a mental institution |
| 20:47.01 | formi | jenson: i bet they have discounts for a whole family |
| 20:47.19 | jenson | lol |
| 20:47.37 | formi | post me your address when you book in |
| 20:47.38 | Leeds | book in two, get one free |
| 20:47.50 | jenson | heh |
| 20:48.02 | formi | book the whole family and get the cat in for free |
| 20:48.08 | jenson | this is why im depressed half the time, coz i canrt seem to do anything right |
| 20:48.29 | jenson | formi: our cats disappeared |
| 20:48.31 | Leeds | formi: shut it! |
| 20:48.36 | formi | jenson: you are a female |
| 20:48.41 | jenson | Leeds: he's alright |
| 20:48.49 | jenson | he doesnt like me coz he thinks im a slut |
| 20:48.49 | formi | Leeds: seriously ? |
| 20:49.19 | resuDaed | A4266 : if you're there, UT on resudaed.com |
| 20:49.22 | resuDaed | or eye69 |
| 20:49.30 | resuDaed | or anyone else |
| 20:49.33 | jenson | resuDaed: Clyphox was looking for you |
| 20:49.57 | formi | jenson: that ain't true, and if you remenber I have told you many times to not take notice of what other people think/not think about you |
| 20:50.00 | Leeds | formi: I meant that I assumed you were going to make some crack about me eatnig |
| 20:50.27 | Leeds | it was a pre-emptive shut it! |
| 20:50.28 | formi | Leeds: sorry, I was enjoying having a go at jenson |
| 20:50.36 | jenson | formi: yeh well its important what other people think, co\ i care about other pople more than i care about myself |
| 20:50.48 | Leeds | jenson: wrong answer |
| 20:50.53 | jenson | yeh Leeds let formi have a go at me instead of you for once |
| 20:50.56 | formi | Leeds: now that you mention it, you could throw a baked potato at me |
| 20:51.39 | formi | Leeds: i don't allow dodgy ctcp :-> |
| 20:52.13 | formi | off for a * smoke |
| 20:52.53 | jenson | oh god he'll be back in his 'im more reasonable when im high' mood ina minute |
| 20:54.10 | jenson | does anyone know which win driver disc the PCI Input Controllor drivers are likely to be on? |
| 20:55.04 | Leeds | the wrong one |
| 20:55.11 | jenson | Leeds: well yeh |
| 20:55.21 | jenson | great my parents are home to whinge at me |
| 20:55.52 | jenson | And why isnt the PCI Multimedia Audio Device driver on the soundcard driver disc? |
| 20:59.37 | jenson | am i by myself now? |
| 21:00.39 | jenson | Pulp fiction, sounds more fun than this |
| 21:04.48 | jenson | im just looking for people to talk to thats all, i dont mean to piss everyone off |
| 21:05.25 | jenson | dmn where is my bootdisk |
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| 21:09.34 | formi | jenson: nope, Im one of those few lucky ones who don't go stupid when high |
| 21:09.46 | formi | hi stone-am |
| 21:09.49 | formi | hi stone-man |
| 21:11.01 | jenson | hiya murble |
| 21:11.22 | murble | blah |
| 21:11.51 | formi | murble: we know you can't produce anything but babbling :-> |
| 21:14.16 | jenson | WTF modprobe is telling me it cant open /lib/modules/2.4.19/modules.dep but I'm using 2.4.18 |
| 21:14.21 | jenson | I think I've fucked it lol |
| 21:14.41 | eye69 | Clyphox: Downloading Urban Terror now. |
| 21:20.47 | dpash | well that was a fun meeting |
| 21:21.03 | dpash | they ignore me until the end when the chair comes over and asks why I was there |
| 21:21.15 | Leeds | dpash: welcome to politics |
| 21:21.17 | dpash | and I said that I was just interested on knowing what was going on |
| 21:21.30 | murble | did you film them? |
| 21:21.37 | dpash | He said that there were 2 empty spaces on the council next year and I could be co-opted on |
| 21:21.38 | murble | are you going to publish transcripts of such meetings? |
| 21:21.49 | murble | just for showing up? |
| 21:21.53 | dpash | murble: no, but publish minutes at least |
| 21:22.17 | dpash | at this point I told him that I was already on the council and he said "oh" |
| 21:22.22 | jenson | Leeds: Why is my system looking for stuff from 2.4.19 when I'm using 2.4.18 (specifically modprobe emu10k1 is comeing up with that msg i just posted) |
| 21:22.23 | murble | is this parish leve? the people who are in charge of cuting the grass and wasting a tiny percentage of pepoples council tax? |
| 21:22.44 | jenson | I'm just gonna go feed my rabbit and hope i avoid a bad rat experince |
| 21:22.50 | murble | and who put up fucking stupif welcome to village foo with a silly fake gate in a layby? |
| 21:22.53 | Leeds | jenson: what does uname -a give you? |
| 21:23.16 | jenson | 2.4.19 |
| 21:23.19 | jenson | I'll BRB |
| 21:23.23 | dpash | murble: and ISDN lines etc yeah |
| 21:24.19 | murble | isdn lines for what? |
| 21:24.26 | dpash | exactly |
| 21:24.52 | Leeds | dpash: none of us know what you're on about |
| 21:25.37 | dpash | Leeds: our parish council is paying for an ISDN line |
| 21:25.43 | murble | Leeds: by nobody knows why i'm talking about all the time and i still jibber. |
| 21:25.52 | dpash | I don't know who is getting the binefit of this |
| 21:26.00 | murble | dpash: get them to buy you adsl or a leasedline. |
| 21:26.11 | murble | for a community wireless network or some other crap. |
| 21:26.13 | dpash | murble: ADSL is out of the question |
| 21:26.20 | dpash | murble: we have satellite |
| 21:26.34 | dpash | we also have a janet connection in the parish, but we can't use that |
| 21:27.55 | jenson | i'm back |
| 21:30.46 | Leeds | jenson: so tell me again... you're running 2.4.19 and it's trying to use a 2.4.19 module... what's the problem? |
| 21:31.11 | jenson | well, my mother is whinging that im meant to be burning her CDs so I better see if I can find my cdwriteer software discs |
| 21:31.19 | Leeds | cdrecord... |
| 21:31.24 | jenson | Leeds: im running 2.4.18, or at least i was |
| 21:31.31 | zachary | It's bed time for me, good night |
| 21:31.33 | Leeds | how do you know? |
| 21:32.12 | jenson | beca8se i was, until i went into setup and installed my swap (which wasnt installed for some reason) and now im in 2.4.19 |
| 21:32.58 | Leeds | I don't know what you were running... and I don't know what you did... but uname doesn't lie (well, almost never) |
| 21:33.06 | jenson | see this install on this box is the same but this is running 2.4.18 |
| 21:33.14 | jenson | i know what kernel i was running |
| 21:33.36 | Leeds | modprobe uses uname to decide which modules to load... |
| 21:34.24 | jenson | well Leeds i set it all up when it was running 2.4.18 and now its trying to load 2.4.18 things from 2.4.19 |
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| 21:39.00 | *** join/#gllug Jenson (~jenson@64.246.28.105) |
| 21:45.33 | *** join/#gllug marko85_uk ([7okvAxc3A@213.78.125.76) |
| 21:45.40 | marko85_uk | sup everyone |
| 21:47.18 | Leeds | so apparently The Core was dumped by Linux: http://lwn.net/Articles/27671/ |
| 21:51.25 | resuDaed | marko85_uk : you play unreal tournament? |
| 21:51.56 | resuDaed | resudaed.com |
| 21:52.05 | resuDaed | unreal://resudaed.com |
| 21:52.29 | marko85_uk | unreal tournament nope |
| 21:52.30 | marko85_uk | :) |
| 21:52.34 | marko85_uk | i dont play games |
| 21:53.09 | Leeds | anyone do jabber? wanna give me a hand? |
| 21:53.49 | dpash | Leeds: IM bah |
| 21:54.04 | Leeds | dpash: foad |
| 21:55.43 | Leeds | with the greatest possible respect :-) |
| 21:55.54 | Jenson | lol you two |
| 21:56.07 | Jenson | I use gaim, but that doesnt seem to be installed on here |
| 21:56.21 | Jenson | But seenas my other X is fscked i hjave no choice |
| 21:57.18 | Leeds | bloody on-line banking silly pointless security crap |
| 22:00.35 | Leeds | it seems it does work |
| 22:00.47 | Jenson | anyone know how to configure a cdrw and burn cds in console? |
| 22:00.57 | Leeds | yeah, of course |
| 22:01.17 | Jenson | coz win refused to install the software so immresorting to console |
| 22:01.37 | Leeds | you need ide-scsi (for an IDE burner)... if you've got ide-cd in the kernel, you'd need to change your boot options and reboot (possibly rebuild the kernel first) |
| 22:01.56 | Jenson | ive a;ready got ider-scsi istalled |
| 22:02.02 | marko85_uk | Hey Jenson |
| 22:02.04 | marko85_uk | dont say hi |
| 22:02.07 | Jenson | or at least i did, my changing kernerlss may ahve eddited it |
| 22:02.16 | Jenson | ohh i csnt type like this |
| 22:02.37 | Jenson | ok marko85_uk i wont |
| 22:03.02 | Jenson | wtf |
| 22:03.03 | Leeds | whfate aer you ttryering tro typwerq? |
| 22:03.17 | Jenson | lsmod come up with nothing at all now |
| 22:03.37 | Jenson | i have to try and get my old kernel back |
| 22:04.38 | Jenson | AllI need to do is load up gnome so i can backup one kword file, and then reformat again |
| 22:04.59 | Leeds | gnome??? |
| 22:05.01 | Leeds | huh? |
| 22:05.13 | Jenson | yeh kde wont load |
| 22:05.19 | Jenson | have to use gnome |
| 22:05.31 | Leeds | why? |
| 22:05.34 | Leeds | just use the console |
| 22:05.41 | Jenson | likei know how to! |
| 22:06.02 | Jenson | im past giving a fuck now anyway |
| 22:06.05 | dpash | Jenson: come to Leeds' talk |
| 22:07.18 | Jenson | is slacxkware always this messed up? |
| 22:07.46 | Leeds | nope, just yours... |
| 22:07.52 | Jenson | thought so |
| 22:07.57 | Jenson | its coz im an idiot |
| 22:08.12 | Leeds | but slackware probably makes it easier for you to mess up, because it doesn't get in your way... it assumes you have a brain |
| 22:08.27 | Jenson | well yeh, and that might be a problem |
| 22:08.32 | Leeds | right |
| 22:09.07 | Jenson | if i handt had formatted debian off the system i wodultn have had thisnproblem |
| 22:09.21 | Jenson | lol trying to type whilst the k/b falls of my lap |
| 22:13.06 | Leeds | dpash: stop mumbling - you'll hurt yourself |
| 22:13.08 | Jenson | dpash: I burned my knoppix disc wrong |
| 22:13.27 | dpash | buy one from John Winters |
| 22:14.24 | Jenson | i aint go any money |
| 22:14.55 | eye69 | http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/imgs/wwn/wallpapers/eagle_2.jpg |
| 22:16.21 | Clyphox | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:17.12 | Clyphox | lol |
| 22:17.18 | Jenson | wb Clyphox you missed resuDaed |
| 22:17.27 | Clyphox | I know :( |
| 22:17.32 | Clyphox | Thanks anyhow |
| 22:17.39 | Jenson | i told him you were looking for him though |
| 22:17.47 | Clyphox | thanks.. |
| 22:18.01 | Clyphox | He is hiding from Beth (quite wisely imho) |
| 22:18.16 | Jenson | Clyphox: is she that pissed off |
| 22:18.31 | Clyphox | She is not pleasant. leave it there.. |
| 22:18.49 | Clyphox | ..Shes just not in my good books atm. not for a while I think.. |
| 22:18.50 | Jenson | damn the maltesers have rolled under thecds |
| 22:19.09 | Clyphox | I'm gonna play some more Urbanterror... |
| 22:19.17 | Jenson | go on then, cya later :) |
| 22:19.29 | Clyphox | I'm addicted.. |
| 22:19.34 | Clyphox | (and damn good MUHAHAHA) |
| 22:20.15 | Jenson | s/resists |
| 22:20.20 | eye69 | Clyphox: 8 minutes left on UT download. :) |
| 22:21.16 | Clyphox | eye69: Your gonna need some maps.... I have a large collection.. |
| 22:21.32 | Clyphox | eye69: are you familiar with quake3 mods/maps setup? |
| 22:21.49 | eye69 | Clyphox: A little bit |
| 22:21.59 | Clyphox | eye69: You will need an updated copy of the pb (punk buster) dir |
| 22:22.25 | Clyphox | eye69: Its is prolly wise to get mine (save wasting hours trying to update off their sh1t servers) |
| 22:23.41 | Clyphox | damn.. 12meg.. bzip -9 time |
| 22:24.11 | eye69 | I'm on 1.32b point release |
| 22:24.48 | Clyphox | eye69: good. pb is separate though.. it authenticates and regulates against cheaters |
| 22:25.20 | *** join/#gllug Jenson (~jenson@64.246.28.105) |
| 22:25.20 | Clyphox | eye69: pb resides in the ~/.q3a/pb dir and /usr/local/games/quake3/pb (for example) |
| 22:25.23 | eye69 | Yeah, know |
| 22:25.34 | eye69 | What version of pb? |
| 22:25.39 | Jenson | oops, the modem was plugged into the ext. lead of the system i just turned off lol |
| 22:25.46 | Clyphox | you'll have a hell of a fun time trying to connect without an up-to date copy.. |
| 22:25.55 | Clyphox | eye69: no idea.. checking.. |
| 22:26.26 | eye69 | I've downloaded pb now. |
| 22:27.26 | Clyphox | it is supposed to be 1.026 but the version hasn't changes in months.. yet there have been loads of problematic updates since.. |
| 22:27.46 | Clyphox | eye69: if you give up tell me.. |
| 22:28.45 | eye69 | Pb probably updated... |
| 22:28.52 | Clyphox | hope so :-) |
| 22:29.05 | Clyphox | I'm gonna play a little.. only one round then will bb |
| 22:39.37 | Clyphox | back |
| 22:39.44 | Clyphox | Gotta love the AK! |
| 22:40.02 | Jenson | wb |
| 22:40.13 | Clyphox | ta |
| 22:46.56 | eye69 | Clyphox: Ok, installed and working. Problem is, I don't have a key. |
| 22:48.31 | Leeds | Zed's dead, baby, Zed's dead. |
| 22:48.38 | eye69 | I should just go out and buy a copy. |
| 22:53.07 | Clyphox | eye69: there are hundreds of working ones on the net.. |
| 22:53.15 | Leeds | ibot bitchslap Microsoft |
| 22:53.16 | | ACTION beats the sh*t out of Microsoft |
| 22:53.28 | Jenson | heh cool |
| 22:53.43 | Jenson | ibot bitchslap Slackware for being a pain today |
| 22:53.45 | | ACTION beats the sh*t out of Slackware for being a pain today |
| 22:53.57 | Clyphox | slackware is not a pain today.. |
| 22:54.05 | Jenson | was for me |
| 22:54.08 | Clyphox | its what you do to it.. |
| 22:54.18 | Jenson | it did it to itself |
| 22:54.21 | Clyphox | :-) |
| 22:54.21 | Jenson | (i think) |
| 22:54.24 | Clyphox | wha? |
| 22:54.55 | Jenson | well i didnt mean to change my kernel from 2.4.18 to 2.4.19 but it happened |
| 22:54.56 | *** join/#gllug dummy (~dummy@pool-141-149-79-143.bing.east.verizon.net) |
| 22:55.01 | Jenson | hi dummy |
| 22:55.06 | dummy | hey |
| 22:55.11 | dummy | hows it goin |
| 22:55.30 | Jenson | ive had a bad rat day and a bad kde day, and im sleepy, but yeh im fine |
| 22:55.30 | Jenson | you? |
| 22:55.49 | dummy | hehe im good i actually just got a hold of the new linkin park album its not too bad |
| 22:55.59 | dummy | so if you guys want ti or whateva you can take it from me |
| 22:56.45 | Jenson | i cant afford it |
| 22:56.54 | dummy | what do you mean? |
| 22:56.59 | dummy | i meant download it of off me |
| 22:57.15 | dummy | y would i sell it to you guys? :) |
| 22:57.26 | Clyphox | Jenson: my kernel has never migrated on its own before hehe |
| 22:57.32 | Clyphox | Must be seasonal... |
| 22:58.11 | Jenson | dummy: i dont have the bandwidth either |
| 22:58.24 | dummy | ahh sux |
| 22:58.32 | Jenson | and im a girl |
| 22:58.48 | dummy | really? |
| 22:58.52 | Jenson | yeh |
| 22:58.57 | dummy | k i was unaware of that |
| 22:59.06 | Jenson | Ask dankolb or zimm, they know well enough |
| 22:59.07 | formi | dummy: we all were |
| 22:59.14 | dummy | hehe |
| 22:59.23 | Jenson | formi: heh, seenas i used to fancy you.... |
| 22:59.42 | formi | Jenson: those 2 might be regretting it :-> |
| 23:00.00 | Jenson | formi: nah, i dont think so |
| 23:00.23 | formi | Jenson: ppl of both sexes have fancied me, and regretted having told me |
| 23:00.35 | dummy | ive never ever met a chick personally who uses linux |
| 23:00.42 | Jenson | yeh well formi i mdont fancy you now |
| 23:00.50 | Clyphox | me neither.. besides my fiancee :-) |
| 23:00.54 | dummy | hehe |
| 23:01.19 | Jenson | dummy: you gonna be at the next gllug meet/ |
| 23:01.28 | formi | dummy: you haven't yet, jenson only abuses linux, she doesn't actually use it |
| 23:01.39 | dummy | Jenson: im in new york |
| 23:01.44 | dummy | but pick me up at 5? |
| 23:01.46 | dummy | lol |
| 23:01.59 | Jenson | formi: very true |
| 23:02.21 | Jenson | I'm using Slack to ssh RedHat right now, surely that counts |
| 23:02.25 | Leeds | dummy - you could come over... we've had people over from Paris and somewhere in Germany :-) |
| 23:02.46 | *** join/#gllug highbury (~steve@sc-gw4.homechoice.co.uk) |
| 23:02.46 | dummy | yeah im a broke fool london is far awayyy |
| 23:02.54 | Leeds | evening highbury |
| 23:03.03 | Jenson | hey highbury |
| 23:03.05 | highbury | hi folks |
| 23:03.12 | Clyphox | hi gi |
| 23:03.15 | Clyphox | er highbury |
| 23:03.16 | highbury | I survived the seminar |
| 23:03.25 | Clyphox | glad to hear it |
| 23:03.31 | highbury | John Hearns came along |
| 23:03.40 | Clyphox | who dat? |
| 23:03.55 | formi | highbury: were drinks available? |
| 23:03.57 | Jenson | highbury: cool |
| 23:04.13 | highbury | just one of the regular GLLUG people, not on IRC though |
| 23:04.31 | Clyphox | ahh.. |
| 23:04.36 | Clyphox | feak |
| 23:04.37 | highbury | no drinks, but I let several people buy me a beer at the pub afterwards |
| 23:04.38 | Jenson | yeh ive seen his name on the list |
| 23:04.39 | Clyphox | muhahaha |
| 23:04.41 | Clyphox | j/k |
| 23:04.48 | formi | it would be nice to lure JH to this place of perdition |
| 23:04.54 | Jenson | highbury: and you can still type, im imprseed |
| 23:05.04 | Clyphox | UT time again.. bbl |
| 23:05.22 | Jenson | seeya Clyphox |
| 23:05.33 | highbury | just about to grab some leftovers, catch y'all later |
| 23:05.33 | Leeds | formi: you've heard about John in Brussels? |
| 23:05.54 | Clyphox | Jenson: still hanging around.. only gonna play 1 and a bit rounds. (30min +- ) |
| 23:06.38 | formi | Leeds: do enlighten me! |
| 23:07.22 | Leeds | he got very very very drunk |
| 23:07.29 | Leeds | took him days to get over it |
| 23:07.45 | formi | did he do anything un-apropiate? |
| 23:08.12 | formi | he ain't a very young chap |
| 23:08.22 | formi | s/ain't/isn't |
| 23:09.22 | Leeds | he just moaned a lot |
| 23:09.36 | Jenson | didnt someone dance on the tables? |
| 23:09.37 | Leeds | I didn't see him drunk, just the aftereffects |
| 23:09.47 | Leeds | Jenson: I think that may well have been Jogn |
| 23:09.48 | Leeds | John |
| 23:09.56 | Jenson | yeh thought so |
| 23:10.17 | formi | Leeds: he should start thinking about taking care of himself |
| 23:10.18 | dummy | shit i should join a lug |
| 23:10.28 | Leeds | formi: yeah, I think he realised that |
| 23:10.36 | Leeds | dummy: nylug is pretty active from what I've heard |
| 23:10.47 | dummy | im in a hick town....college kid |
| 23:10.51 | formi | Leeds: it is not like he has no responsabilities |
| 23:11.02 | dummy | city is like 4 hrs away...and $66 |
| 23:11.29 | Jenson | formi: does he do the drunk thing alot then? |
| 23:11.32 | Leeds | heh... it's only $300 from London :-) |
| 23:11.37 | dummy | lol |
| 23:11.52 | dummy | new yorkers have a bad attitude and terrible accents....very annoying |
| 23:12.19 | Leeds | dummy: where are you actually from? |
| 23:12.32 | dummy | india |
| 23:12.34 | formi | Jenson: seeing jhon witout a pint, is really difficult!! |
| 23:12.54 | Leeds | cool |
| 23:12.58 | Jenson | formi: well i havent met him, nut im asuming he's,to old for such behaviour |
| 23:13.13 | dummy | yeah i guess i wouldnt get -2 for colour in london :) |
| 23:13.22 | Leeds | dummy: huh? |
| 23:13.49 | dummy | my spelling are like urs and the americans spell stuff differently so usually i lose marks in my papers |
| 23:13.54 | dummy | *spellings |
| 23:14.04 | Leeds | oh - colour vs. color :-) |
| 23:14.10 | dummy | yepp :P |
| 23:14.40 | dummy | they are mean |
| 23:14.51 | Leeds | not really fair |
| 23:15.11 | formi | Jenson: he is not old, but he is at that time is live when you should start taking care about yourself |
| 23:15.13 | dummy | i had a biology presentation and i spoke about different tortoise species |
| 23:15.19 | dummy | they ddint understand the word tortoise |
| 23:15.21 | dummy | lol |
| 23:15.26 | formi | s/is live/in life |
| 23:15.44 | dummy | they say tortis or some shit |
| 23:15.56 | Leeds | formi: nah, he's old... |
| 23:16.05 | Leeds | dummy: thru? |
| 23:16.15 | formi | Leeds: don't flattened yourself |
| 23:16.22 | dummy | thru? i didnt get u? |
| 23:16.51 | Jenson | dummy: we say tortus...they say tortoys |
| 23:17.00 | dummy | yeah :) |
| 23:17.13 | dummy | but i say tor-toise |
| 23:17.25 | dummy | well I pronounce the toise |
| 23:17.26 | formi | you bloody anglosaxons: it is "tortuga" |
| 23:17.29 | Jenson | i tghink i more likely say tor-us actually lol |
| 23:17.53 | Jenson | oww just kicked ther damn computer by accident |
| 23:18.13 | Leeds | dummy: they sometimes use the word thru when they mean through |
| 23:18.16 | formi | Jenson: be greatful, that the computers can't kick you |
| 23:18.30 | Leeds | formi: she'd be in the hospital all the time |
| 23:18.34 | Jenson | heh formi yeh as ive been known to kick mine in my metal plated boots |
| 23:18.46 | dummy | ahh probably i use thru too |
| 23:19.34 | formi | Leeds: do you know the story about some us presi who decided to create a "american language" and started to produce shit by the ton |
| 23:19.36 | formi | ? |
| 23:20.27 | Leeds | formi: called Bush, isn't he? |
| 23:20.36 | Jenson | Leeds: Nah, he's just an idiot |
| 23:20.52 | Jenson | and Blair is his rentboy |
| 23:20.58 | dummy | he has trouble with his grammar |
| 23:21.13 | formi | Leeds: no, this was after the uk lost the us as a colony |
| 23:21.22 | formi | http://www.farodevigo.es/portada.html |
| 23:21.32 | formi | sorry wrong link |
| 23:21.45 | formi | http://www.farodevigo.es/humor/AGUILERA.JPG |
| 23:22.16 | formi | translation: and now they are going to complain about the chicken!!! |
| 23:22.45 | Jenson | lol i see |
| 23:23.27 | formi | 91% of s-pain is against the war |
| 23:23.55 | Jenson | i think a lot of people are |
| 23:24.21 | formi | the other 8% is probably the bloody gibraltarians |
| 23:24.31 | Jenson | lol |
| 23:24.32 | Jenson | yeh |
| 23:24.58 | Leeds | nice bit of home-away-from-home |
| 23:25.21 | formi | Leeds: we know that, and you love for the fur hats as well |
| 23:25.55 | Leeds | fur hats? |
| 23:26.08 | formi | with legs |
| 23:26.27 | dummy | 64.246.28.105 |
| 23:26.33 | dummy | my bad |
| 23:28.07 | Leeds | gtk are you talking about? |
| 23:28.20 | Leeds | that should be wtf - /me is coding :-) |
| 23:28.37 | Leeds | and why are you posting porn? |
| 23:29.16 | dummy | lol |
| 23:29.33 | dummy | you know something weird thats Jenson ips backwards |
| 23:29.35 | dummy | :) |
| 23:29.40 | formi | http://photos.geeksgetrevenge.com/gibraltar/image-073.jpg |
| 23:29.53 | Leeds | oh, that |
| 23:29.59 | formi | Jenson: checks that one, odd sense of fashion somebody has |
| 23:30.09 | Leeds | yeah, fur hats with legs |
| 23:30.38 | formi | the warning behind says, DON'T WEAR THE MONKEYS!! |
| 23:31.00 | Leeds | formi: that's actually pretty much what it does say :-) |
| 23:31.48 | formi | Leeds: I hadn't realised they were monkeys |
| 23:31.49 | dummy | a porn server running on rh 7.3 :) |
| 23:32.03 | Leeds | apes, technically |
| 23:32.14 | formi | s/monkeys/2 monkeys |
| 23:32.20 | Jenson | dummy: This is Dan's server I'm sshing, its a porn server lol |
| 23:32.28 | dummy | you know him? |
| 23:32.34 | dummy | oh so i picked this from you |
| 23:32.39 | dummy | no wonder i was like wtf? |
| 23:32.52 | dummy | he has telnet too |
| 23:32.55 | dummy | for some odd reason |
| 23:33.00 | Jenson | yeh, its like his mates server, and his mate hosts porn |
| 23:33.07 | Jenson | he likes to play with telnet lol |
| 23:33.28 | dummy | he always does love to run a lot of services |
| 23:33.47 | dummy | gimme accesss :) |
| 23:33.48 | dummy | lol |
| 23:34.16 | dummy | jenson@64.246.28.105's password: |
| 23:34.19 | Leeds | porn server? gotta be a lot of bandwidth there :-) |
| 23:34.19 | dummy | lemme think |
| 23:34.20 | dummy | umm |
| 23:34.27 | dummy | hell yeah i need some |
| 23:34.34 | Leeds | who doesn't... |
| 23:34.37 | dummy | jenson@64.246.28.105's password: |
| 23:34.38 | dummy | Last login: Wed Apr 2 17:27:14 2003 from dial81-135-100-121.in-addr.btopenworld.com |
| 23:34.38 | dummy | [jenson@server jenson]$ |
| 23:34.39 | dummy | im in? |
| 23:34.41 | dummy | motherfucker |
| 23:34.43 | dummy | i am the man |
| 23:34.44 | dummy | :D:D |
| 23:34.47 | Jenson | heh |
| 23:34.53 | Jenson | nah i just didnt change my p/w |
| 23:35.01 | dummy | so jenson ahs am account here |
| 23:35.08 | dummy | *an |
| 23:35.25 | dummy | need root |
| 23:36.27 | Leeds | anyway, my film has finished, so I should stop coding and go to bed... |
| 23:36.29 | Jenson | i dotn have root access |
| 23:36.34 | dummy | yeah |
| 23:36.38 | dummy | but we want root access |
| 23:36.40 | Leeds | Jenson: you will have soon :-) |
| 23:36.44 | Jenson | night Leeds |
| 23:36.45 | dummy | local is good enuff hehe |
| 23:37.03 | Jenson | Leeds: I think you have to be sleeping with the owner or something to get root access lol |
| 23:37.30 | Leeds | Jenson: work on it... |
| 23:37.32 | Leeds | :-P |
| 23:37.54 | Jenson | Leeds: Well, Dan is a co-owner, but I aint sleepijg with him |
| 23:38.38 | Leeds | no comment |
| 23:40.15 | Jenson | dummy: get off my username. Iknow someone who'll get you free hosting on the Greenwich uni servers |
| 23:41.20 | Leeds | anyway... bed |
| 23:41.29 | Jenson | night Leeds |
| 23:41.34 | Clyphox|q3ut2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.45 | Jenson | hey Clyphox|q3ut2 |
| 23:41.53 | Clyphox|q3ut2 | oi oi |
| 23:42.13 | Clyphox|q3ut2 | no resu :( |
| 23:42.32 | Clyphox|q3ut2 | OMG!! they are playing Rommel! I'm orf |
| 23:42.45 | Jenson | lol Clyphox|q3ut2 calm down |
| 23:44.43 | Jenson | BRB |
| 23:51.19 | Jenson | dummy: are you on dialup? |
| 23:52.26 | dummy | what do you think? |
| 23:52.33 | Jenson | yeh |
| 23:52.44 | dummy | you sure? |
| 23:53.51 | Jenson | really i dont care, if my exboy/f finds you sshing his site he'll kill you |
| 23:54.09 | dummy | im willing to take the risj |
| 23:54.10 | dummy | risk |
| 23:54.27 | dummy | is it my fault hes stupid? |
| 23:54.43 | Jenson | nope |
| 23:54.52 | dummy | but im out so dont worry...not a malicious person I respect peoples shit :) |
| 23:55.10 | dummy | i sniffed that ssh session of off u... |
| 23:55.21 | Jenson | yeh and you wont get back, i decided i ought to change my p/w |
| 23:55.39 | dummy | which i didnt realise...Jenson if i wanted to i could have changed ur p/w :) |
| 23:55.55 | dummy | im not a bad kid like i said.... |
| 23:56.04 | dummy | so dont worry about it |
| 23:56.17 | Jenson | how old are you anywya? |
| 23:56.27 | dummy | i turned 19 like 2 days ago |
| 23:56.31 | dummy | and u? |
| 23:57.02 | Jenson | 18 |
| 23:57.20 | dummy | cool |
| 23:58.12 | Jenson | anyway its time for bed |
| 23:58.15 | Jenson | night! |
| 23:58.18 | dummy | k night |
| 23:58.26 | Jenson | night everyone! |
