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00:14.25resuDaedevening all
00:14.46highburyevening
00:15.53resuDaedgrrrr women
00:16.01resuDaedand procmail
00:16.10resuDaedneither make sense
00:16.31resuDaed[Mail: 1175]
00:16.36resuDaed:)
00:16.47resuDaed(hence my wanting procmail)
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02:58.22Clyphox|q3ut2resuDaed: you awake?
03:47.36Clyphoxnn ppla
03:47.40Clyphoxer ppls
05:48.36highburyjust in case anybodys interested I just found out how to dynamically resize a screen, now I'm running XFree86 4.3, KDE has a handy little utility krandrtray off the KDE menu, you get a little docked icon, which you can simply select the res you want, unfortunately not depth yet
06:59.32highburymorning
07:00.48murblemoin
07:28.23adhochighbury: what about CTRL+ALT+MINUS
07:28.23adhoc?
07:29.28murblebarfoo
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07:32.54zacharygood morning
07:34.17TarragonMoin
07:39.05highburyadhoc: that just works the old way, ie. bits of the screen get cut off
07:39.18highburyI SURVIVED! :-)
07:43.27zacharyhighbury: congrats
07:50.09murblehighbury: was this the spammer one?
07:53.27Huhnhi *
07:54.22murblehi Hun
07:54.58Huhnhi murb
08:02.18Tarragonhighbury: did you manage to hand out the things you printed last night?
08:15.18dpashhi all
08:15.22TarragonHI
08:15.40dpashTarragon: last night, the chair came and spoke to me
08:15.49dpashasked why I was there and said I was just interested
08:16.03Tarragondpash: So once you told them you were on the council did the rest come and congratulate you?
08:16.04dpashHe said that there was two spaces left on the council and I could be co-opted
08:16.06highburya few of them, I must thank you, the idea of putting porn on the back of the business cards went down a blinder! ;)
08:16.19dpashAt which point I told him that I was already on it
08:16.31dpashhe said "oh"
08:18.44Tarragonhighbury: "Does your server keep on going down?" "Have you too much bandwidth? Want to make sure your noticed?" ...
08:19.01dpashs/your/you're/
08:22.00Tarragon:-)
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09:28.32murbmoin
09:29.15nasratmorning
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09:53.34highburydpash: did you see my comment about screen resizing, it seems I didn't have to wait for KDE 3.2
10:13.07Davilionwb Huhn
10:13.48Huhnty, Davilion
10:25.41TarragonThis is now getting silly. Too many keyboards and mice. I just found myself walking into another room carrying a wireless keyboard. Guess I will be getting one fitted to my body soon. I just cannot escape.
10:28.24Huhnlike in Shadowrun? :)
10:34.45Davilionheh.
10:34.52DavilionTarragon: kvm?
10:35.33Davilionthis should be fun
10:36.27Davilionhe said 'The firewall on our servers broken' and is now reconfiguring it. we don't have a  firewall on that machine.  The problem was actually that xinetd dies after a while, so i've restarted it, yet he's adding firewall rules willy nilly, and its blocking his machine.
10:37.26Huhnhaaaaaaaaatschiiii
10:38.21DavilionHuhn: yeah i keep sneezing up organs today too
10:38.35HuhnDavilion: I think, it's hayfever (?) already..
10:39.14Davilionyeah possibly
10:39.34Davilioni dont usually get hayfever, but nose keeps running, eyes watering etc.
10:40.23Huhnit's possibly the birch trees in front of my door... waaah, I'll kill that tree ;)
10:40.30Davilionheh
10:40.34Daviliontrees are good mkay :P
11:13.07murbI hate being trapped in middle of nowhere without transport.
11:13.25Huhnmurb: find a new job
11:13.44Davilionmurb: or order pizza
11:13.55murbmurb-- # not finding a new job.
11:14.24murbDavilion: I'm sure i could try, success though wouldn't be garrantted.
11:14.39murbunless anyone has instructions for ordering pizza in french.
11:15.28Huhnmurb: order online?
11:15.33Davilionwww.lefrenchpizzahutwithenglishsubtitles.com
11:15.39HuhnDavilion: lol
11:15.49Huhn"they call it le Big Mac" ;)))
11:16.03DavilionWhat about a wopper?
11:16.33Huhn<bloodyaccent>le whopperrr?</bloodyaccent>
11:17.11murbis that bloody as in bloody french?
11:17.34Huhnhehe
11:19.09highburydon't most of us order pizza's in Italian :-)
11:21.10murbhighbury: that would probably work as well, but i put my order in , in english by phoning boss who is at the resurant and asked him to bring back a quatre fromage avec un oeggthing.
11:21.43Huhnlol
11:24.41Davilionlol.
11:47.23murba client phoned wanting help setting up an outlook user....I didn't have a clue hahahaha
11:47.27Davilionmurb: how did you get into that job? its the kind of job i would like (Working abroad)
11:47.32murbsomthing for my technical managler
11:47.51murbDavilion: lots and lots of badluck, and they are advertising my job...
11:48.08Davilionlots and lots of badluck?
11:48.38murbdo you like not getting paid for months at a time/
11:48.39murb?
11:49.26murbhttp://jobsearch.monster.lu/jobsearch.asp?co=xinetlux
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11:50.39jensonhey guys
11:51.51Stephenafternoon jenson
11:51.56murbhi jenson
11:52.26jensonhey Stephen
11:52.29jensonhey murb
11:56.14Davilionmurb no i like a semi regular income
11:56.18Davilionhi jenson
11:56.47Davilionif i want a user account which i can allow users to use ssh port forwarding but not actually give them a shell is that possible?
11:56.55Davilionif i use /bin/false as the shell it just borks
11:57.10murbgive them a shell that does nothing.
11:57.40Davilionsuch as?
11:57.48Davilioni thougth thats what /bin/false did.
11:58.13jensonhey Davilion
11:58.31murbe.g. int main(argc,argv) int argc, char **argv { while(1) sleep 60; }
12:05.07Davilionmurb ta
12:07.09jensonwell, i should be going. i'll see you guys later or tonihgt
12:07.12highburyanything not listed in /etc/shells also fails
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12:11.46murbhighbury: depends on your login sshd etc.
12:12.00murbnormally you can't set somthing with chsh if it isn't listed in /etc/shells.
12:34.04Huhnwho's the gllug slackware guru btw? ;)
12:34.30murbI@ll stand in if you want, since i still have a slackware mcahine.
12:34.51murb(I upgraded my Redhat 6.2 machine to woody a while ago)
12:34.52Huhnrunning 9.0?
12:35.09HuhnI'm looking for somebody who tried slack 9.0
12:43.42ClyphoxI've installed it.
12:48.10murbHuhn: for an article?
12:48.39murbthis is/was slackware 3.0, or 2 with possibly bits of fall '95
12:48.59murbcome to think of that i still have a disk with yaddrasili multimedia linux :)
12:49.07Huhnuah ;)
12:49.09Clyphoxnever heard of that
12:49.33ClyphoxI usd to run slack 4.. I'm not that old to linux alas
12:49.56ClyphoxMight install slack 1.1.2 over my minix on my 386 jsut for fun
12:54.55murbno, install mcc interim
13:05.32dpashhi
13:25.29Clyphoxmcc is kewl
13:46.02dummyHuhn: morning slack 9.0 sucks
13:53.17Huhndummy: ok, but I'm editing the article anyway, but thanks ;)
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14:06.54TarragonOK I will try Slack 9.0 :-(
14:07.02jensonhey Tarragon
14:07.15dummythe new Xfree version doesnt have good support for nvidia
14:07.24dummythe colours were terrible, the fonts were broken
14:07.31dummythe install seems quicker and more efficient
14:07.57dummythe overall scenario of the dektop loaded is quite unsatisfactory...
14:08.47jensonI need to sort my Slack install out, but I dunno if I cxan be bothered
14:11.59eye69Clyphox: I installed Urban Terror 2.6A (newest from urbanterror.net, but all the servers seem to use 2.5 :)
14:12.24jensoneye69: You guys *still* talking bout that lol
14:12.40eye69jenson: I want to get it working damnit. :)
14:12.51jensoneye69: awwww *hugs*
14:12.58jensonibot bitchslap UT
14:13.01ACTION beats the sh*t out of UT
14:16.51jensonBBL
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15:00.27dpashhmmm 20 spams since 10:00
15:03.07dpashhi zimm
15:05.20zimmhaya dpash
15:05.29zimmuni networks suck ..
15:05.37zimmthey've disabled my account again ..
15:06.52dpashyou been hacking again?
15:07.44dpashokay, got to drive home
15:07.52dpashhope I miss the traffic
15:09.24zimmlol ..
15:18.47murbblahblahblahhalb
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15:36.00nasratibot lart pay-cuts
15:41.50murbibot urtnotbineg payed on pay day
15:41.51murb: i don't know
15:46.10Tarragonibot lart not being paid on payday
15:50.29Clyphoxeye69: there are lotsa good servers.. check the aard ones for example
15:50.45Clyphoxeye69: want my favourites.gz ?
15:50.48eye69Clyphox: I got it fixed
15:50.56Clyphox:-)
15:50.59ClyphoxWanna rock?
15:50.59zimmlaters all ..
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15:51.09eye69Apparently I had only downloaded 2.6, not 2.6A
15:51.28ClyphoxDo you browse the servers using quake?
15:51.41eye69No, with the UT browser
15:51.53eye69Same thing
15:52.00ClyphoxAhh.. install qstat2 and xqf
15:52.22eye69Yeah, getting it now.
15:52.28Clyphox:-)
15:55.12ClyphoxI got a script to launch programs in a second X if you want.. it needs improvement atm..
15:55.42eye69Is it mostly to get more speed?
15:55.55eye69If so, I'll survive...the machine is fast enough
15:56.11Clyphoxmy video card is about 3 years old
15:56.50eye69I bought a GF4 Ti4200 128MB recently
15:57.06eye69Sold the GF1 DDR to Stephen
15:57.07ClyphoxI am broke..
15:57.12Clyphoxeven job-less now hehe
15:57.26Clyphox(joyous rapture... muhahah)
15:58.48dummyeye69: i have the same card :)
15:59.15ClyphoxI had some noobs trying to recruit me to their new "linux" Urban Terror clans..
15:59.21eye69Haha
15:59.25ClyphoxOnly catch was I have to install AOL!
15:59.26eye69I'm not a clan man
15:59.35eye69hihi
15:59.48eye69I guess you jumped at the opportunity? :)
15:59.49ClyphoxI am wanting to train and partake in some serious action now
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16:00.14ClyphoxI told him I'll go 1on1 with him and if I don't beat the Sh1t out of him I'll join..
16:00.21zacharygood afternoon -> pre-evening
16:00.22ClyphoxNeedless to say he shut up.
16:00.27Clyphoxre zachary
16:00.53ClyphoxI'm not REALLY good but I think I classify as a Vet
16:01.58Clyphoxit was quite funny.. he said I could join because he liked me.. lol
16:15.55eye69Clyphox: Damn, mouse ran out of battery. :)
16:16.08Clyphoxlol.. I've heard of that happening to ppl before
16:16.14Clyphoxwhere are ya playin?
16:17.03eye69146.87.220.11
16:17.09ClyphoxI just brute f
16:17.11Clyphoxer
16:17.22eye69Aardvark
16:17.37eye69Oh well, put it on the charger and goes to do the dishes instead.
16:17.48ClyphoxAhh
16:17.52ClyphoxI'll wait for you..
16:18.04ClyphoxGotta try find my wallet before my ADSL get disconected
16:18.36ClyphoxTrying to brute force my self into my encrypted notes cause its got my card details there..
16:18.58ClyphoxAt least my files are "kinda" organized.. (unlike my meatspace)
16:26.04HuhnHAIE-> ice hockey, bye
16:46.36Clyphoxthat was fun.. made a nice little riff :-)
16:47.14cupnight
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17:16.28Clyphoxeye69: Tell me when your ready for some lessons..
17:17.02eye69Downloading ut_laneway2.pk3 now...a bunch of servers running it..
17:18.31Clyphoxnice snipering map
17:22.50murbis there such a thing?
17:23.01Clyphoxhehe
17:23.15ClyphoxI used to hate snipers till I got a (half) good FPS Muhahah
17:24.44Clyphox(the night vision makes easy targets of ppl who think I can't see 'em too )
17:25.07ClyphoxAnd the SR-8 can send ppl flying after you hit 'em.. delightfull
17:26.54Clyphox.. now my dada da da..
17:27.08Clyphox..whack for my daddy ohh..
17:27.26Clyphoxexcuse me.. too much coffee..
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17:37.31jensonhi highbury
17:37.44highburyHi
17:38.44jensonWell, I'm gonna go have dinner, and watch Buffy, I'll be back after that.
17:40.35murblo
17:44.40Clyphoxhi
17:45.03dpashhi all
17:45.21Clyphoxlo dpash
17:48.57dpashquiet
17:49.04Clyphox[nod]
17:50.35Clyphoxdpash: do you play games?
17:50.47dpashClyphox: depends what kind of games
17:50.51dpashmind games?
17:50.53Clyphoxdpash: Quake3
17:51.34Clyphoxdpash: I got resudaed and maybe eye69 setup to play urbanterror now.. maybe you wanna join.. if yur bored...
17:51.51Clyphoxmind games are fun.. alas I lack the skill (female).
17:51.52dpashClyphox: I have latencies in the 700ms range
17:51.56dpashI don't think so
17:52.05ClyphoxSatellite?
17:52.20dpashhttp://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;195942
17:52.21dpashLOL
17:52.26dpashClyphox: indeed
17:52.37dpashI just love the resolution
17:52.56dpash"Doctor it hurts when I do this" "Well don't do it then"
17:53.09Clyphoxlo
17:53.11Clyphoxl
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18:02.27Clyphoxbbiam..phone
18:15.55zacharydpash, funny.
18:16.19dpashzachary: the MS thing, yeah
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18:20.47zacharydpash: I don't remember where I read it. I saw an article about the history of significant software inovations. Microsoft wasn't listed at all.
18:21.47dpashzachary: MS doesn't innovate
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18:22.05dpashI think it has brought pretty much all of it's products
18:22.41dpashMSDOS, Word, Excel, IE, SQL Server
18:23.24zacharyyou forgot, etc... (and the list goes on)
18:23.46dpashoh of course
18:24.20zacharyI think ms needs to be sued for misusing the word, "inovation."
18:25.02zacharyor append a new definition in the dictionary, v. - to sit on your ass and pay bills.
18:25.39zacharysorry, adv. the act of...
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18:30.26Clyphoxhi jenson
18:30.38jensonhey Clyphox
18:30.58jensonDoes anyone else get depressed when they watch Buffy?
18:31.15ClyphoxI do
18:31.20Clyphoxyou..
18:31.23nasratjenson: which season
18:31.23Clyphox(I think) hehe
18:31.40jensonnasrat: any of it
18:31.55phatgiejenson: are you a vampire or deamon?
18:32.11jensonAfter I gave up my selfharm habit, i'd still do that after watching Buffy
18:32.17jensonphatgie: vampire
18:32.23ClyphoxI bet your one of those half-deamon half-human things?
18:32.31Clyphoxohh
18:33.03jensonwheres my fucking bo/f......out getting pissed with that chick he fancies i expect
18:33.10jensonboy/f even
18:33.43Clyphoxzimm?
18:33.54jensonyeh
18:33.58nasratbofh even?
18:34.44jensonI gotta go get my rabbit some food, but there is half poisoned rats out there and when I see them I cry.
18:34.51jensonoh well BRB
18:35.11ClyphoxI like pet wabbits..
18:35.16Clyphoxtaste a TREAT!
18:39.24phatgieSounds like "Silence of the Lambs"
18:39.39phatgieserving of bunny, extra rare.
18:39.57jensonlol
18:40.00jensonmy wabbit is cute
18:40.06jensonHis name is Spike
18:40.08ClyphoxWith a bit of frontal labotamy for flavour
18:40.30jensonback BTW
18:40.39Clyphoxjenson: I'm guessing he's too old and stiff to eat ?
18:40.54jensonClyphox: I think he's aboyt 3-4 now
18:41.04Clyphoxvery leathery now..
18:41.18ClyphoxStill nice and fleshy round the neck though..
18:41.36ClyphoxI like wabbit with mince too
18:41.44jensonewwwwww
18:41.49jensonibot lart Clyphox
18:41.53Clyphoxstewed
18:42.21ClyphoxI'm only kidding..
18:42.26jensonheh i know
18:42.33ClyphoxI hate eating rabbits..
18:42.43ClyphoxBabies on the other hand...
18:43.21Clyphox...run... run too live.... fly.. fly to diieeeee!!
18:43.40jensonlol
18:44.05Clyphox..aces HiigghhH
18:44.09jensoni've still got c:\dos c:\dos\run run\dos\run stuck in my head from simpsons last night
18:44.20ClyphoxeH?
18:44.28jensonon the geeks tshirt
18:44.35Clyphoxahh
18:44.37jensonthe ciomic book guy whose always on usenet
18:44.47Clyphoxhe's kewl
18:44.53jensonheh i knopw
18:45.02Clyphox... snake eyes in heave.. the thief in your heeeaaaaddddd...
18:45.06Clyphox....be quick......
18:45.12Clyphox...or be dead... dead...dead....
18:45.19Clyphox(Iron maiden mode) sry
18:45.26jensonlol its cool
18:45.46jensonI'm listening to Blue ATM, coz it suits my state of mind, I'll be back with Placebo in a minute
18:45.59ClyphoxI'm tired of placebo now
18:46.16jensoni hadnt listened to them in ages
18:46.27Clyphoxheard Evil Dildo before?
18:46.47jensonnope
18:47.08ClyphoxIts the only one of their songs that I've heard which is actually "different"
18:47.30jensonI think The Crawl is m fave placebos song
18:47.43Clyphoxdunno it..
18:49.34phatgieClyphox: good choice
18:50.04Clyphoxphatgie: Glad to know there are other ppl who know good music
18:50.30ClyphoxI loved the Simpsons when bart conned the church into singing it..
18:50.36Clyphox17min later....
18:50.50jensonoh yeh lol
18:51.01jensonI was an Aerosmith fan fore like 3 years
18:51.20phatgiejust bought the first and second season of simpsons on dvd a few weeks ago
18:51.39Clyphoxohhh. acidrip/mencoder l -)
18:54.41Stephen... snake eyes in heave.. the thief in your heeeaaaaddddd...
18:54.41Stephen19:45 < Clyphox> ....be quick......
18:54.51Stephengrr
18:54.55Stephendamn GUIs
18:54.55Clyphox..or be deeaad...
18:55.18Clyphox[nod]
18:55.52StephenI swear I'll do away with X before long, if it wasn't for web browsing I probably would have already
18:56.22jensonStephen: i cant live without it
18:56.31jensonsays her who is working in console
18:57.54ClyphoxI use it for games/web too
18:58.28Stephenheh. I have Windows for playing games
18:58.57ClyphoxACk
18:59.02ClyphoxI have a console for games
18:59.10Clyphox( a number)
18:59.52ClyphoxBesides no game is better than urbanterror.. muhahaha
18:59.56Stephenheh, I got addicated to hangman at one point
19:00.10Clyphox:-)
19:00.16ClyphoxI've never won one
19:08.43Clyphoxeye69: ping
19:09.25eye69pong
19:09.40ClyphoxUrbanterror sometime?
19:09.46eye69Sure thing
19:10.28eye69I'm having some problems getting pb to work correctly though...what's the foolproof way of turning it on?
19:10.54ClyphoxGet my updated copy
19:11.01Clyphoxthen run /pb_cl_enable
19:11.02eye69I've run pbweb and it has downloaded the newest updates
19:11.41Clyphox<PROTECTED>
19:12.28ClyphoxIf you can stomache it I'll just send you a copy of my pb dir? much easier
19:12.50Clyphox...ave maria.. maria..
19:13.29ClyphoxSprinkgbok nude girls are kewl
19:13.33eye69Sure, go ahead.
19:18.45Clyphoxpb suxors
19:24.53Clyphoxeye69: Just grabbing f00d.. bbiam
19:25.21ClyphoxResuDaed is here!
19:25.24ClyphoxHe's alive!
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19:29.16jensonawww, had a busy day have you Davilion ?
19:29.38Davilionyeah as usuall i end up running around like a headless chicken thanks to somebody elses incompetance.
19:29.51jensonwhat fun
19:30.13Davilionthen got stuck in traffic for an hour on the way home
19:32.15DavilionHows your day going jenson?
19:33.09jensonalright thanks
19:38.02Davilionmmmm e-bow the letter, havent heard this in so long.
19:38.20Davilionim feeling better already altohugh im feeling very tense tonight and really unsettled.
19:41.41ClyphoxDavilion: What do you do for money?
19:42.09Davilionim supposedly responsible for designing, building, testing, installing, and supporting pc clusters.
19:42.16Davilionbut i spent lots of time int he car
19:42.48jensonDavilion: I know how to make guys less tense, it's a shame I'm not there
19:43.11Davilion:)
19:43.27ClyphoxI give good masagues too
19:43.27DavilionClyphox: i also run a few webservers and do some application hosting
19:43.39ClyphoxNice fun when things work
19:43.40Davilionbut my main income is from www.streamline-computing.com
19:43.56ClyphoxBauwolf? openmosix?
19:44.24DavilionClyphox: yeah i like it most of the time when i get to actually do what im supposed to but days like today i hate, i just spent all day trying to sort out stupid non-cluster related problems because our 'partner services manager' cocked up.
19:44.41Clyphoxyup
19:44.46ClyphoxI know the feelink
19:44.48DavilionClyphox: mpi based, so more beowolfy.
19:45.11ClyphoxDid you start the company?
19:46.03Davilionno, joined after a few months, before that i did freelance software  consulting, and it was too risky to give that up to work for s/c but after a while it looked like they would be around for at least a few years so i put my own businesso n the back burner and jumped on the bandwagon.
19:46.48Davilionas soon as i get my share options i'll probably at least drop part time unless i get a decent salary boost, since i think i would have been better off freelance by the end of this year.
19:47.07ClyphoxI want to start a small "kinda" corporate venture like that in Aberdeen.. making kewl thin client networks for the big new oil companies
19:47.25Daviliondont we all :)
19:47.31Clyphoxhehe
19:47.36DavilionWhats the attraction to aberdeen, its a bit chilly up that part of the country.
19:47.44ClyphoxMy fiancee
19:47.50jensonyeh, the north is damn cold
19:47.52Davilionahh.
19:47.59ClyphoxShe's in Uni there..
19:48.04Davilionwhat does she study?
19:48.08ClyphoxMaybe I'll even get some kinda education again
19:48.22ClyphoxPsy/geo/Anth
19:48.42Davilionmy plan is to grow my web services income since thats the least amount of hassle
19:48.57Davilioncool, i've got a friend studying media somethingoranother there
19:49.05Davilionits a bit too remote for me though.
19:49.06ClyphoxI'm going to run a DNS/mail/web server soon
19:49.44Clyphoxgot at least 8 domains so far and I expect new ones every 2 weeks or so
19:59.33Clyphoxeye69: Wanna play?
20:00.32eye69Just say when
20:00.37eye69...and where.
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20:01.03eye69I'm useless, so be gentle
20:01.30Clyphoxhehe
20:02.05Clyphoxeye69: I'm going into aardvark now..
20:02.37eye69Okie
20:03.03eye69Which one
20:03.03eye69?
20:03.16eye69I've got 6 of them
20:03.39Clyphoxwhe one with me in it..
20:06.35Clyphoxeye69: 146.87.220.11:27962
20:34.57Clyphoxeye69: wa 'gwan?
20:36.55Clyphoxeye69: connection probs?
20:38.31eye69http://forums.urbanterror.net/default.asp?action=getTopic&discussionID=12&topicID=15699
20:38.34eye69Getting that...
20:48.52Clyphoxomw
20:51.21ClyphoxWeird
20:51.44Clyphoxis that what happens ta u?
20:53.08Clyphoxlol!
20:53.13Clyphoxin #netbsd =
20:53.14Clyphox15:54 <+mgoetze> what's the equivalent of fdisk?
20:53.15Clyphox15:55 <+FXKennedy> fdisk
20:57.26murbhaylow #gllug people
20:58.04ClyphoxHiya murb
20:58.31murbis you nick supposed to be slyfox and if so why?
20:58.49murbi think spelling it wrong is an attempt to be 31133t
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20:59.02ClyphoxCause I sat down with a pen and paper many years ago and decided I liked it.
20:59.11ClyphoxI don't care.. its uniq
20:59.20Leedswarning, TiVo can be bad for your body clock
20:59.28Clyphoxheh
21:00.39murbLeeds: why you can avoid daytime tv when your job ceases.
21:00.53murboh same thing...
21:01.19Leedsjob isn't likely to be ceasing soon
21:01.34murbI suppose watching telitubbies at 2200 could be disorantating.
21:01.41murbLeeds
21:01.45murb:lucky you.
21:02.12Leedsyup
21:02.56murbbyebye baghdad
21:05.03Leedsyup
21:05.15Clyphoxeh?
21:05.21Leedsnot, to be fair, that I've ever said hello, bagdad
21:06.02ClyphoxI used to live near baghdad
21:06.37LeedsClyphox?
21:06.47ClyphoxLeeds?
21:07.10Leedsyou used to live in Iraq?
21:07.20Clyphoxno.. U.A.E
21:07.39Leedsso not *that* near Iraq
21:07.43Leedsuh, Bagdad...
21:08.07Clyphoxhehe no
21:08.20ClyphoxSaudi Arabia is worse
21:08.39murbyoua re getting confused with Syria and Iran.
21:09.02Leedsmurb: what?
21:09.04ClyphoxLeeds: where did you live?
21:09.07murbi find it very funny that everyone things that the bbc reporting on israel is facist and for the palistine or for irsael.
21:09.17LeedsClyphox: Jerusalem
21:09.18murbprobably means they are being balanced and accurate.
21:09.32ClyphoxLeeds: Interesting place..
21:09.37murbpeople don't like the touth.
21:09.45Clyphoxyup
21:09.45LeedsClyphox: yes, it is
21:09.47Clyphoxand yup
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21:10.21ClyphoxI heard some joker last night on UT saying the US was using Cluster bombs and Napalm..
21:10.26Clyphoxppl beleive what they want
21:11.03eye69Clyphox: pak6 at this: (http://q3.utca.hu/maps/) site is 124,029,371 while mine is 119754752
21:11.37Clyphox873888a73055c023f6c38b8ca3f2ce05  /usr/local/games/quake3/baseq3/pak6.pk3
21:12.13eye69Checking
21:12.21eye699680ca4cc8a917b1f90a8c69634cd494  /usr/local/games/quake3/q3ut2/pak6.pk3
21:13.41ClyphoxMine is only 7360512b
21:13.53eye69Oh, I meant the one in q3ut2 dir
21:13.56Clyphoxahh
21:14.21eye69873888a73055c023f6c38b8ca3f2ce05  /usr/local/games/quake3/baseq3/pak6.pk3
21:14.28eye69Ie. matches
21:15.02Clyphoxeye69: My ut pak6 is  GLLUG - Greater London Linux User Group, http://gllug.org.uk [Next Full Meeting
21:15.05Clyphox16:12 < Clyphox> yup
21:15.07Clyphox16:12 < Leeds> Clyphox: yes, it is
21:15.10Clyphox16:12 < Clyphox> and yup
21:15.11eye69How fun. :)
21:15.12Clyphox16:12 -!- zachary [~zachary@host217-36-7-37.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined
21:15.15Clyphox<PROTECTED>
21:15.18Clyphox16:13 < Clyphox> I heard some joker last night on UT saying the US was using
21:15.20Clyphox<PROTECTED>
21:15.23Clyphox16:13 < Clyphox> ppl beleive what they want
21:15.24Leedsnice one Clyphox
21:15.25Clyphox16:13 < eye69> Clyphox: pak6 at this: (http://q3.utca.hu/maps/) site is
21:15.28Clyphox<PROTECTED>
21:15.30Clyphox16:14 < Clyphox> 873888a73055c023f6c38b8ca3f2ce05  
21:15.33Clyphox<PROTECTED>
21:15.35Clyphox16:14 < eye69> Checking
21:15.38Clyphox16:15 < eye69> 9680ca4cc8a917b1f90a8c69634cd494  
21:15.40Clyphox<PROTECTED>
21:15.43Clyphox16:16 < Clyphox> Mine is only 7360512b
21:15.46Clyphox16:16 < eye69> Oh, I meant the one in q3ut2 dir
21:15.48Clyphox16:16 < Clyphox> ahh
21:15.51Clyphox16:17 < eye69> 873888a73055c023f6c38b8ca3f2ce05  
21:15.53Clyphox<PROTECTED>
21:15.56Clyphoxsrry.. mouse's fault
21:15.57eye69*slap*
21:15.58Clyphoxeye69: my ut is 124157952       /home/david/.q3a/q3ut2/pak6.pk3
21:15.59Clyphoxsry once again
21:16.01ClyphoxGah
21:16.41Leedsstop that!
21:16.49dummyhello all
21:16.54Davilion<PROTECTED>
21:16.58Davilionwonder how far i can push it up.
21:17.24eye69Davilion: cd /usr/src/linux && make -j dep bzImage
21:18.30dummyhey Leeds umm you know when ur kernel uses the wrong module version built you get unresolved symbols fro a certain module....do you know hwo to fix that?
21:18.32Leedswhile true ; do cat < /dev/zero > /dev/null & ; done
21:18.59Clyphoxdummy: compile the correct modules..
21:19.00Leedsdummy: turn module versioning on... then, if it fails, it because the interface has changed
21:19.03dummyi did
21:19.16Davilioneye nah, i want somerthing useful at the end
21:19.27dummy/lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o: unresolved symbol __release_region_Rsmp_d49501d4
21:19.28Clyphoxdummy: What modules are you having probs with?
21:19.31dummyi get stuff like that
21:19.32ClyphoxAhh
21:19.40dummymy ehternet card
21:19.43dummyethernet
21:19.51ClyphoxWeird.. I use the same module/kernel
21:19.57dummyyeah i dont get it
21:20.06dummyumm what kernel are you running Clyphox?
21:20.07Leedsdummy: that means the interface is wrong - the crap on the end is an interface signature
21:20.22dummyLeeds: its the riht module cuz im suing it currently
21:20.34Clyphoxdummy: 2.4.20
21:20.36dummylsmod : 3c59x                  24648   1
21:21.06dummylspci -v Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (rev 78)
21:21.13dummydid you rebuild the kernel?
21:22.35Clyphoxdummy: me? yeah its a custom one
21:23.17dummyif i install salck 9 or whateva witht he custom 2.4.20 its fine of course
21:23.26dummybut im on 8.1 trying to upgrade to 2.4.20
21:23.39ClyphoxI'm on 8.1 .. must be your configuration..
21:23.40dummyeverything works great besides my ethernet
21:23.45dummyi think so too
21:23.50dummyi ahve pci enabled
21:23.52dummy*have
21:24.14dummyyou think i could take a look at ur config Clyphox?
21:24.47Clyphoxsure..
21:24.54dummyk thnks
21:29.27Leedsyay - TiVo reference in Buffy... apparently one of the demons has one...
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21:31.40Clyphoxwb
21:32.07ClyphoxWhats TiVo then?
21:32.13Leedsseriously?
21:32.19Leedsdamn, their marketing sucks...
21:32.39ClyphoxI've heard of it.. thought it was set-top stuff
21:33.13Leedsit's a hyper-intelligent video...  hard-drive based, has it's own program guide, records stuff you tell it to (all kinds of ways to tell it what to record) and potentially stuff it thinks you'll like
21:33.23JensonI remember TiVo marketting, I really wanted it at the time
21:33.56Leedsor to put it another way... it's a PowerPC-based Linux machine with a hard drive, a modem, TV in/out, hardware MPEG codec and some really really cool software (both supplied and third-party)
21:34.02LeedsJenson: it truely rocks
21:35.24ClyphoxDamn i remember reading about it years ago
21:36.26Leedsthey've somewhat folded in the UK... they are still providing service (listings and CS) to existing customers, but there is no TiVo-based device available in the UK - the single manufacturer pulled out a while back :-(
21:37.23LeedsTiVo provide the plaform, the listings service and software upgrades, but they don't make boxes (at least for series 1 boxes, which were the only ones available in the UK) - there are two manufacturers in the US and there was one in the UK
21:37.50ClyphoxI want a javastation
21:38.30Leedsthere is also the DirecTiVo in the US, which is the direct equivelent of the Sky+ - a digital sat. box with a built-in PVR (Personal Video Recorder)... but the TiVo software is so much better than the Sky box that it's a real pity Sky messed it up
21:39.21ClyphoxI want to make my own box like that using itx and a little python
21:39.30Clyphoxer mini-itx
21:39.35Leedsin case you can't tell, I'm a TiVo fan - one of the best pieces of tech. I've ever had the pleasure to play with...  truly life-changing
21:39.44murbLeeds: do they do eveil things to the DVB streams?
21:40.02ClyphoxLeeds: Whats good about the s/w
21:40.29LeedsClyphox: you need some high-quality way to get listings... some very cool software... hardware MPEG codec...
21:40.48Leedsthe two main cool things about the software are the interface and the intelligence
21:41.16Leedsthe interface is designed to be used with an IR remote, on a TV, by your mum...
21:41.39Leedsthe intelligence is being able to say stuff like "record skiing for me" and have that Just Work...
21:41.50ClyphoxLeeds: I want to make a box that can dump/play divx.. use lirc, and learn to recognize adds and clip/mute them.. (and maybe zsnes while I'm at it hehe)
21:41.58Leedsthe other cool thing is that there are a bunch of hidden features which make it much nicer to use :-)
21:42.43LeedsClyphox: sure... but that's a different box... it may be a nice entertainment station, but it's no TiVo
21:43.33ClyphoxLeeds: I don't want TiVo. I hate adds thats all :-)
21:43.46ClyphoxMind you the "record skiing" is kewl
21:44.54JensonClyphox: my vcr has a 30 sec ff ad skip button, although ive never used it lol i just use nomal ff
21:44.57Leedsor stuff like "record Frasier on channel 4, as long as it's a new ep. record a couple of extra minutes on the end because ch4 overrun often. and don't keep more than 2 of them around - if I haven't watched and deleted it after two weeks, delete an old one to make room"
21:45.30ClyphoxLeeds: Where can I get one?
21:45.43Leedsand since you've told it to record Frasier, it'll record Cheers if there's free disk and it's not doing anything more important, since it's similar to Frasier
21:45.50LeedsClyphox: you can't, easily :-( :-( :-(
21:46.20Leedsthe only places to get them are second-hand, or finding an unsold one somewhere in a back room
21:46.35Clyphoxebay :-)
21:46.43ClyphoxCan it retrieve listings still?
21:46.47Leedsyeah... but the price has been rising... supply/demand
21:46.52Leedslistings are still there...
21:47.07Jensondamn maybe they'll like re-release them or somethign
21:47.10Clyphoxyou have to pay!? gah
21:47.48Leedsthe main downside?  10 quid a month, or 200 quid up front (which will get factored into a second-hand price) for the service... that's how TiVo make their money, as opposed to the hardware manufacturer, who are the ones who sold you a box
21:48.44LeedsJenson: they have said they are planning to... and there are constant rumours to that effect... but there is nothing concrete, and the longer they let it lie, the harder it'll be to come back, and the more ground Sky+ (ugh) will grab
21:49.10ClyphoxSky+ sucks
21:49.27ClyphoxMind you you can store a fair ammount on their boxen
21:49.28JensonLeeds: Our family has never got past analog terrestrial TV, VCRs and dialup
21:50.20LeedsClyphox: it's not *that* bad... :-)  it's a TiVo knock-off with limitations and more broadcaster control... it's more closed... but it has one huge bonus... 2 decoders - record one thing and watch something else at the same time
21:51.37Clyphoxyeah..
21:52.03ClyphoxI want to make my own freevo spin-off
21:52.06Leedsoh, and it's more expensive...
21:52.23Clyphoxneed to get income to support myself first and then start studying(learn coding)
21:53.51eye69Clyphox: Ahhh, that file seemed to contain the right .pk3
21:54.03eye69Right size, at least. Should work now.
21:54.28Clyphox:-) goody
21:55.31Jensoneye69: You were doing all this shit last night....gibve up lol
21:55.53ClyphoxJenson: die!
21:56.04ClyphoxJenson: j/k
21:56.09JensonClyphox: :) I know
21:56.17ClyphoxI know
21:56.17eye69Jenson: Pfffft
21:56.19eye69NEVER!
21:56.33Clyphoxto give up is like not using man
21:56.47eye69Contrary to some I follow through
21:56.55ClyphoxMind you I gave up on sendmail.cf
21:57.00Clyphoxeye69: lol
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21:57.10Clyphoxwm dummy
21:57.12Clyphoxer wb
21:57.13eye69Jenson: No pun intended. :)
21:57.16JensonI just saw a tshirt saying 'Real men never click help'...but it was like a Win one
21:57.16Clyphoxdummy: success?
21:57.17dummyscrewed shit
21:57.20dummyno mroe errors
21:57.33dummysame thing
21:57.35dummyummm
21:57.39ClyphoxI'll try it..
21:57.42dummysoemthign ahs to be up with this shit
21:58.11dummyif i build it in....it doesnt work at all and theres no way to troubleshoot it
21:58.15Clyphoxwhich 8139 driver is it?
21:58.26Clyphoxohh sry.. 3c59x ?
21:58.32dummy8139?
21:58.39Clyphox3com right?
21:58.42dummyyes
21:58.45dummy3c59x
21:59.01dummyas i saw urs you selected both as modules
21:59.29ClyphoxNot in the mood to plug one into my box atm.. meens turning it off..
21:59.30dummy3c509 and 3c59x i think
21:59.36dummyyeah
21:59.45Clyphoxyeah.. the 509 are old ones..
21:59.46dummyi hvae rc.modules modprobe the 3c59xx
21:59.50Jensonwb Huhn
22:00.05Leedsevening Huhn
22:00.12HuhnFinaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaleeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
22:00.28Clyphoxwb
22:00.40Huhnlalalalala
22:00.52Huhnsorry, I'm drunk, Haie are in the playoffs finals :))
22:00.54murbHaie won?
22:01.06Clyphoxdummy: have you checked `dmesg` ?
22:01.32JensonNight all
22:01.43Leedsnight Jenson
22:02.17Jensonnight Leeds
22:02.21Jensonnight murb
22:02.21dummyyeah ic ans ee the errors
22:02.24Jensonnight Huhn
22:02.28Jensonnight Clyphox
22:02.30dummyit occurs when i type modprobe or insmod
22:02.31Jensonnight dummy
22:02.32Huhnnn Jenson
22:02.34dummythe same errors i mean
22:02.37dummynight Jenson
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22:02.58Leedsibot sing
22:03.02ACTION sings loudly
22:04.01Davilionibot danse
22:04.02Davilion: I give up, what is it?
22:04.05Davilionibot dance
22:04.05"ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' alive, stayin' alive"
22:04.09Davilionheh.
22:04.22Huhnibot: Finaaaale :)
22:04.22Huhn: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
22:04.40Leedsibot Huhn
22:04.40huhn is probably avoiding the tax man.
22:04.46Huhnibot: you stupid idiot, I'm talking about ice hockey :)
22:04.46Huhn: i haven't a clue
22:04.53Leedsibot idiot
22:04.53hmm... idiot is you
22:04.53Huhnhehe, I know :))
22:05.03Leedsibot bitchslap ibot
22:05.07ACTION beats the sh*t out of ibot
22:05.07ClyphoxWish I was drunk
22:05.09Davilionheh
22:05.18Leedsdamn... too late to buy beer
22:05.23murbbugger i left my gps behind.
22:05.30Davilionis it gllug this weekend?
22:05.31ClyphoxDave Mathews Band actually _isn't_ that bad!
22:05.31Davilionor the one after?
22:05.34murbi need to find a b&b place i staying at.
22:05.46LeedsDavilion: next week...
22:05.59Clyphoxmurb: where?
22:06.00Leeds3/4/3
22:06.30Davilionahh ok, im a week ahead of myself.
22:07.24murbClyphox: lux.
22:07.47Clyphoxmurb: Ah.. can't help you..
22:08.05Leedsmurb: you're still going to lux?
22:08.29Huhnhe _is_ in Lux
22:08.37Clyphoxheh
22:08.49LeedsI thought they'd dumped him by now...
22:08.58murbleeds: why?
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22:09.15Huhnwell, they didn't dump him, they're just not paying for anything
22:09.16murbif they did that i'd like have to fix my cv, and that can't ever happen.
22:09.22Leedsmurb: you said a few times that they were going to... or that they wouldn't pay you enough 'n stuff
22:09.23ShermozleHeyas.  Stupid question time...
22:09.26murbHuhn: they did pay for jan, and feb.
22:09.28Leedshey Shermozle
22:09.29Davilionheh yeah cv, i should really update it a bit
22:09.32murbpity about march.
22:09.32Huhnhi Shermozle
22:09.34Davilionhello Shermozle
22:09.44murbLeeds: I'm crap.
22:09.45Huhnibot: lart murb's boss
22:09.56Huhnmurb: you're not
22:10.00murband allegedly the job market in EU is fuckxored.
22:10.14LeedsHuhn: he is...
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22:10.20murbHuhn: at find a new job and fixing my cv, i hope you can belive / agree with that statement.
22:10.21Clyphoxwb dummy
22:10.36dummywell just copied the dmesg output
22:10.38Clyphoxmurb: I need a job too hehe
22:10.38dummylooking into it
22:10.43LeedsShermozle: problem?
22:10.48ShermozleI wanna apply the latest 2.4.21 prepatch.  How the fnark do I do it?  I'm applying it on virgin 2.4.20 and I get Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n]
22:11.11ClyphoxI think its -p0
22:11.15Clyphoxcan't remember..
22:11.19Shermozleusing patch -p 1 (from within the actual directory)
22:11.22ClyphoxIts in the FAQ
22:11.39dummyPCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 00:11.1. Please try using pci=biosirq
22:11.47dummydo you think it could be an irq issue?
22:11.50ClyphoxNot sure on the kernel tbh.. havn't needed to patch it for ages
22:12.23Clyphoxdummy: weird.. dunno.. maybe its hardware? try putting it in another pci port maybe?
22:12.32ShermozleUSB shit is crappy in 2.4.19 and 2.4.20 :(
22:12.36Daviliondummy: what kind of mobo do you have? what chip/mobo combo?
22:12.38Leedsdummy: try doing what it says :-) I think I need to use that option...
22:12.44ShermozleSupposedly all fixed in 2.4.21
22:12.49ClyphoxShermozle: works for me..
22:12.49dummyyes
22:12.54dummythnsk Leeds lol
22:13.03dummyDavilion: via
22:13.04Daviliondummy: if that fails try appending noapic
22:13.40Davilionahh, dummy then noapic will probably fix it. we had a lot of trouble with smp boards with the tyan chipset and some via non-smp boards freaking out
22:14.03dummynoapci? you want me tod eselect pci my ethernet card is pci
22:14.19ShermozleClyphox: Yeah some USB stuff is orright, but some is really crap.  I think it's mainly that UHCI sucks.
22:14.27murbdo you have an APIC?
22:14.31Clyphoxthe kernel has no apci iirc
22:14.38ShermozleSo any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
22:15.00LeedsShermozle: give me a couple of minutes...
22:15.11ClyphoxShermozle: might explaine why my usb-speedtouch router keeps getting sucky
22:15.29ShermozleClyphox: A usb router is a bad idea anyway...
22:15.49ClyphoxShermozle: I am poor.. I do what I can with what I have hehe
22:16.16ShermozleClyphox: Yeah.  I scraped for the ethernet model.  Glad I did with all the problems I'm having with other USB devices.
22:16.23Clyphoxbesides all the other dsl routers I've used freeze more
22:16.36ClyphoxMy ethernet one at home freezes once a week
22:16.53LeedsI use the Alcatel frog with 2.4.18
22:17.08ShermozleClyphox: Only problem with mine (Speedtouch 530) is perfect _except_ I can't seem to find a setting to make it switch on automatically after a power outage.  (Discovered that one day when a guest unplugged it for her hair dryer)
22:17.09Davilionshit, 4442k mem left
22:17.14ClyphoxI used it with 2.2.18
22:17.17Davilionload avg is up to 23 though
22:17.30Clyphoxhell.. mines never gone about 17!
22:17.49Clyphoxe/about/above
22:19.17Davilioni quite frequentlyt ake my work machine to 80+
22:19.33Leedsrunning what?
22:19.52DavilionLeeds: compiling ddt, or mpich or something like that with -j lots flag
22:20.18DavilionLeeds: but now im ripping from 4 cd drives, and oggenc'ing them
22:20.37Clyphoxhehe
22:21.20ShermozleDavillion: and you have a nice heater for a chilly night too.
22:21.55Davilionyeah
22:21.59Davilioni've got my window wide open
22:22.14Davilionits too noisy in here thats the only problem
22:22.15LeedsShermozle: which 2.4.21 patch are you using?
22:22.17ShermozleYou could heat up your dinner on it.
22:22.38Shermozleleeds: 2.4.21-pre6 (http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/testing/patch-2.4.21-pre6.bz2)
22:22.50Leedswe fired up a new dual-Xeon Dell desktop box at work today, and the noise blew us away... that thing really was like an engine starting up
22:23.00Davilioni realised my printer didnt go to sleep after an hour which i thouhgt it did, so that was adding some noise, my sparc disk is noisy, i want to be able to send it to sleep after a few mins since it never really uses it, just when it writes dhcp/iptraff logs etc.
22:23.04Leedsrichardc@butter:~/linux/linux-2.4.20$ patch -p1 < ../patch-2.4.21-pre6
22:23.14Davilionmy workstation disks spin down after an hour so its quietish.
22:23.18LeedsShermozle: that works fine for me - cleanly unpacked 2.4.20 tarball
22:23.29DavilionShermozle: where did you get your source from?
22:23.53Clyphox:-) good mirror
22:24.01Shermozleleeds: I've just noticed a suspicious "README.Debian" file in the source dir...  Perhaps Debian's sources aren't quite as virginal as I thought?  Debian's had its wicked way with it!
22:24.15Leedsfucking Debian
22:24.27Clyphox[nod]
22:24.48LeedsShermozle: if it ain't from an official kernel.org mirror, it ain't a clean kernel...
22:24.49DavilionShermozle: yeah the debian source packages are modified.
22:24.54Davilionyou definatly want the kernel.org one
22:24.59LeedsI blame dpash...
22:25.22Shermozle(hunting down mirror)  Yeesh, will this country please decide if it's GB (ISO) or UK (domain name)!  Ack!
22:25.40LeedsShermozle: the country is UK... the place is GB
22:25.58ShermozleYeesh!
22:26.07ShermozleIt'd be okay if they were nearby in the alphabet :)
22:26.11LeedsGB is a big island...
22:27.08ShermozleReasonable mistake to make if you read the Telegraph <ducks>
22:27.40Leedsah, fucking anti-semites everywhere...
22:27.55Shermozleleeds: :P
22:28.21Leeds:-)
22:28.59ShermozleWasn't Lonix on tonight?
22:29.23HuhnI thought, it was the 10th?
22:29.31ShermozleOh yeah...
22:29.42Leedsnext week... 2 days before GLLUG :-)
22:30.30ShermozleWhoops, just realised why I'm not maxing out the bandwidth -- got the shaper squishing it for interactive.  I love HTB!
22:30.34Huhnmh, who is going to be there? Leeds? you going?
22:31.08DavilionHuhn: im going to try to get to lonix, dont think i'll get to gllug my parents are visiting... although.. they could go for a trip to london.
22:31.16LeedsHuhn: lonix? maybe... gotta go to gllug :-)
22:31.18Davilionare you coming to either Huhn?
22:31.32HuhnDavilion: probably
22:31.42ShermozleMe, perhaps for Lonix.  Unlikely for GLLUG.
22:31.57Leedsno-one wants to come and hear my talk :-(
22:32.02Huhnnot sure if I'm going, but hopefully
22:32.12Davilionwhat you talking about Leeds?
22:32.14HuhnLeeds: I've booked flights, I might be there
22:32.22LeedsDavilion: see the schedule...
22:32.26DavilionHuhn: cool, well come and say hello at lonix if your coming let me know and i'll make a point of being there
22:32.34DavilionLeeds: that would involve actually interacting :)
22:33.02HuhnDavilion: I should be in London on the 10th
22:33.23ShermozleVenue sounds pretty good, though my experiences of dutch food aren't good and I hope they don't serve beer like the dutch do!
22:33.54HuhnDutch food is terrible, but the beer is good
22:33.57LeedsShermozle: what's wrong with the way the Dutch serve beer?
22:34.11Huhnat least it might be cold enough :)
22:34.26Shermozleleeds: Less froth, more beer, mate!
22:34.31Shermozleleeds: Serve a beer like that in Australia and you'd start a riot.
22:34.34LeedsDavilion: yeah, keep away from hell
22:34.47LeedsShermozle: aussie beer is piss anyway - Fosters! :-P
22:34.51HuhnShermozle: ever been to Germany? :)
22:34.51DavilionLeeds: installing a cluster there next week :(
22:34.56HuhnVB rocks
22:35.09Leedsyeah, VB's okay...
22:35.11DavilionVB?
22:35.24Leedsdrinks easily...
22:35.32ShermozleVB is fucking camel piss.
22:35.39Huhnjust 3 letters: OMG
22:35.44HuhnOh My God
22:35.55HuhnI've never seen anything like this before
22:36.04LeedsHuhn: ?
22:36.15Huhnand ppl from Cologne really _do_ know how to celebrate
22:36.25HuhnLeeds: thechurch.co.uk?
22:36.29ShermozleI still can't get over how people pay import beer prices for inferior Australian lager.  I mean, if you want cheap, crap lager, drink Stella.  At least it's drinkable!
22:36.30Huhndon't remember
22:37.36LeedsHuhn: does that mean you smell?
22:37.57HuhnLeeds: ?
22:38.05Leedscologne
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22:38.14Huhnarghs
22:38.26Huhneau de Cologne?
22:38.32Huhnwe have more than that!
22:38.35DavilionShermozle: but stella isnt cheap
22:38.42Davilionits cheap in belgium but its arip off here
22:39.12Shermozlepound/gram of alcohol it is.  We're talking _drinkable_ here, so don't tell me how cheap Tennants Super is...
22:39.32LeedsHuhn: yeah, but that's what the word means to me... I've never been to Germany...
22:40.15HuhnLeeds: Germany != Cologne
22:40.24Huhnor better Cologne != Germany
22:41.15HuhnShermozle: tell me when you're in tow, it's really amazin!
22:41.20Huhntown
22:41.21LeedsHuhn: Germany > Cologne
22:41.35HuhnLeeds: Cologne == party zone
22:45.27Davilionnight guys
22:45.32Leedsnight dav
22:46.54ShermozleThat's more like it!  Patching nice and clean now.
22:47.52Leedsyou want to avoid that debian crap... get it nice and clean from marcelo :-)
22:48.43ShermozleHmmm, except these "nice and clean" sources won't "make xconfig"
22:49.36Leedsxconfig is for wimps... real men edit their .config file by hand... config is for people with *way* too much time on their hands... and menuconfig is half-and-half
22:50.33highburyfor real wimps, SuSE's Yast2 also provides a gui kernel config tool, too
22:50.49Leedsugh... hi highbury
22:51.54highburyhi
22:52.06Leedsha ha ha... they released the Duke3d source on Tuesday... as a DOS app... and it's running natively on Linux today :-)
22:53.28ShermozleKewl!
22:53.43ShermozleIt's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum.  Damn, I'm all out of gum.
22:54.11Leedsalmost...
22:54.22Leeds"... and I'm all out of gum"
22:54.31Leedsat least thats what mine used to say
22:55.01Leedsmaybe I should buy a copy this time :-)
22:55.15ShermozleIt's GPLed now leeds, no need!
22:55.53Leedsengine is GPLed... game data is still proprietary...
22:57.04Leedsthe game data is the funny stuff
22:57.10ShermozleAhhhh!
22:58.21ShermozleAnyone know WTF a Fusion MPT device is?
22:58.53Leedscontext?
22:59.27Leedsah, in-kernel
22:59.36Leedsit has help text
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23:00.29ShermozleHigh end network storage?
23:00.56Leedsnetwork or local... the point is that it's a highly-accelerated IO system
23:01.47ShermozleDidn't have help when I last looked.
23:02.02Leedsdoes in 2.4.21pre6
23:02.55ShermozleAs I can see 8)
23:03.15Leedsas can I
23:06.41eye69Some LSI Logic SCSI cards are MPT Fusion
23:06.55ShermozleIs there supposed to be anything under "Library Routines"?
23:07.01eye69Nah
23:08.51dummyzlib compression Shermozle
23:11.21ShermozleJeez.  I woulda thought we'd have surround-sound, widescreen wars by now.  The quality has got worse, not better!
23:15.11LeedsShermozle: not enough bandwidth out of Iraq
23:16.28ShermozleYou'd think they'd have thought of that before they invaded!
23:17.20Leedsdid you see the stuff on /. about the military buying up commercial satellite time for low-priority, low-security stuff?
23:18.02ShermozleYeah.  The US military, with real control back in the states, must have _STAGGERING_ bandwidth requirements.
23:18.17ShermozleWhat's the bet their next bit procurement is a few more MILCOM satellites?
23:18.26LeedsI think most of their C&C is local... but yeah
23:19.25ShermozleYou using Bit Torrent?
23:19.39Leedsnntp
23:20.26ShermozleBit Torrent is incredibly well designed for TV episodes.  I downloaded the latest Enterprise today and it completely maxed out my bandwidth.
23:20.34Leedsnever got around to setting up BT... and I'm a bit too leechy
23:20.46LeedsI need to get some shaping working
23:20.55ShermozleIt's good for just that application.
23:21.07ShermozleShaping works very well and is in stock kernel now.
23:21.16Shermozle(can send you my script if you like)
23:21.21LeedsI took a look at the docs... and ran screaming...
23:21.32Leedsscript would be nice
23:23.12ShermozleYeah it'll do yer head in.  I let others do the work on that one 8)
23:23.44ShermozleThe key is to keep the bandwidth a bit below your maximum to ensure that there are no queues at your ISP.  That way you can prioritise the packets.
23:24.50Leedsreading it...
23:24.53ShermozleBut I can have my link _nearly_ maxed out in both directions and have only slightly slower ping times and ssh session responses.
23:25.19ShermozleRebooting new kernel...  Might not make it back in channel as it's past my bedtime...
23:25.21ShermozleNighty night!
23:25.29Leedsnice...
23:25.33Leedsg'night
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