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00:13.02formi-goneby Matthias S. Benkmann - Mar 30th 2003 07:32:18
00:13.02formi-goneA lot of people are having sex just to have fun or for other selfish reasons. This should not happen. I, as the leading moral authority of the world command you all to coordinate your sexual habits for the good of mankind. Rather than being so selfish as to sleep with your wife/husband yourself and create yet another non-optimal child, you should be looking for the man/woman whose genes best serve the community and encourage him/her to sleep w
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01:12.10Leedsanyone awake?
01:13.13eye69Mmmmm
01:14.18Leedseye69: have a look at http://www.j-colo.net/~richardc/snap.jpg and tell me what you see
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04:35.40eye69Anybody awake?
07:04.35dummyyesh
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08:28.40zacharygood morning
08:31.47dpashmoin
08:55.33zacharyoff to do chores. bbl
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09:21.04murbmoinmoin
09:21.16highbury_morning
09:23.03highbury_well as warned my xchat 2.0.1 has started misbehaving, redraws aren't working and right hand user-list column, has suddenly stopped displaying
09:25.30murbtalking of that sort of thing i'm looking for a xterm replacement that does tabs and stuff and has decent terminal emulation.
09:26.27highbury_KDE's konsole does all that
09:26.55highbury_I've pretty much switched over from using xterms
09:27.39murbhighbury: I've been using the gnome equiv which seems to have terminal emulation problems.
09:27.58highbury_what specific probs?
09:28.06dpashmurb: do try it
09:28.09murbthings not getting drawn properly etc.
09:28.10dpashyou might like it
09:28.24dpashI've found it to be one of the better terms
09:28.38highbury_my main test is whether it can run snake and rain
09:28.40dpashthe old gnome 1 term was good too
09:29.02murbI'm going to try multi-gnome-terminal
09:29.19dpashbah
09:29.28dpashgive konsole a try
09:29.35murbthe kde stuff wants me to install a new version of bash
09:29.42murbi consider that bad juju
09:29.51dpashwhat version?
09:29.54dpashwhat are you running?
09:33.17murbwoody packages from download.kde.org
09:34.33dpashI sasume it is an updated bash from woody?
09:36.31murbit wants to install it from kde.org
09:38.07dpashhmmm I'll have to lart kandalf then
09:38.20dpashwhat version of bash is it
09:41.03murbbash_2.05b-2woody3
09:47.41dpashgrrr IE addreess bar bug
09:48.24dpashyou open a new window, start putting in a URL and it moves the cursor to the start of the text widget half way through
09:48.46dpashyou get things like ges.debian.orgpacka
09:50.12dpashhmmm packages.d.o is showing 2.05a-11
09:50.24dpashnot sure why it needs an updated bash
09:50.47murbi just held the existing package.
09:51.03murbbut when i say i want kde it doesn't mean i want to get anything much else.
09:51.23murband or it would be nice if they put somthing in the change log as to why an uypgrade was nessary
09:53.05dpashmurb: those packages are the work of kandalf
09:53.28dpashthey are pretty much woody backports of the official debs
09:54.22highbury_that's the wonder of debian ;)
09:54.33dpashhe doesn't understand somethings about Debian
09:54.48dpashnote recent threads on debian-develML
09:54.59dpashhighbury_: nothing to do with us
10:01.00dpashrumour as it that the updated bash is due to a home/end bug in bash
10:02.22dpashnight all
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10:08.23irvinedright decisions decisions...
10:08.41irvinedare the trade fairs on today? or is it sundays or daily or what?
10:44.08highburyTCR shows have alrady started irvined
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12:58.37resuDaedis anyone here?
12:59.49Leedsno
12:59.56LeedsI'm not
13:00.29resuDaedfor some (unkown) reason
13:01.22resuDaedmy nvidia module has disappeared
13:01.41Leedshave you looked down the back of the sofa?
13:02.06resuDaeddown the back of the sofa with the locate tool
13:02.48Leedsreinstall it...
13:03.16resuDaedall of a sudden, x wont start, complaining about failing to initialise NVIDIA module
13:03.25resuDaedok, grrr ...
13:04.00Leedsis the file there?
13:07.15resuDaedno, but the latest version of the drivers come in a convenient .run form
13:07.22Leedsheh
13:08.06resuDaedwhy am I getting impatient waiting 1min45 for a 6.4 Mb download?
13:08.27resuDaedI think I need to spend a week on dial-up so I can feel the speed again
13:09.37resuDaedooh, I see a progess bar while it compiles the module :-)
13:09.49resuDaedthey make this far too easy, it can't work
13:10.30resuDaedand it didn't
13:12.22eye69resuDaed: You've recompiled the modules, haven't you?
13:12.41resuDaedeye69 : I know, I had a suspicion that may be the problem
13:12.54eye69resuDaed: The module gets removed every time you do that. Just run 'sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4349.run'
13:13.02resuDaedjust did
13:13.09eye69Ok, then 'modprobe nvidia'
13:13.21eye69Why the installer doesn't load the module automatically I don't know.
13:13.35eye69Stupid move IMO.
13:14.07resuDaedyes, I don't like that installer personally, I prefer the tarball approach
13:15.43resuDaedeye69, how do I give myself the authority to start an X server from X?
13:16.27eye69Not sure. Let me check...
13:16.32resuDaedthanks
13:17.18resuDaedI can quite easily start the second server from console, just not from a shell within X
13:19.45eye69dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common
13:25.20resuDaedthanks
13:30.08resuDaedworking now
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13:38.17Leedshey skugg
13:38.48skugghey leeds :)
13:50.05dummyheeelo
13:50.34Leedsmorning dummy
13:50.40dummymorning
13:51.54dummyperl locale settigns are bothering me
13:52.05dummyeverytime i load a perl script on xchat it crashes
14:02.50Leedsreally?  I was about to say "it's easy when you're English", but since we're in a minority around here right now... :-)
14:18.26eye69Leeds: Sweden uses 8859-1, and I didn't rreally do any programming before I came to the UK.
14:18.43eye69The only difference is three extra characters.
14:21.44Clyphoxre
14:29.16Leedsshows what I know about Sweden, really... :-)
14:29.55eye69והצ
14:30.15Leedssame to you!
14:30.20dummyyeah eye69 i know shouldnt gimme trouble anyways im just installing the 5.8.0 src
14:31.03eye69&aring;  &auml;  &ouml;
14:41.23skuggnorwegian has the same three characters, but write them differently...
14:41.32eye69Yeah.
14:41.34skuggוזר
14:41.50eye69Same as danish, isn't it?
15:02.13skuggdunno ;)
15:02.19skugg(late, but good)
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15:51.38jensonhey guys
16:03.24stephenafternoon jenson
16:03.44jensonhow are you?
16:04.05stephenokay thanks, you?
16:04.53jensonok thanks, trying to install gaim, if i manage, it will be the first thing ive ever managed to install lol (and all coz im too lazy to reboot and install it off the CD)
16:05.14stephenwhy would you need to reboot to use the CD?
16:05.38jensongood question lol
16:06.15jensonim so blonde lol
16:07.29StephenI really hate users, they expect me to be on IRC 24/7 and fix their problems at the drop of a hat
16:07.52jensonwell yeh, dont we all
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16:09.15Leedsk-lined?
16:09.18Stephenouch there dave
16:09.23jensonheya Leeds
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16:10.30jensonheya dave
16:13.19jensongrrrr my dad is giving me shit about moving thisd computer off the floor, but I CBA to sort out whatever the fuck has happened to the other one.
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16:16.33jensoni'm off for a little while
16:16.35jensonBBL
16:16.39dummythis fucking sucks....perl is gay
16:16.49LeedsStephen: yeah... or I should be outside, you're right
16:29.15Leedsugh
16:41.09dpashhi all
16:41.24Leedsafternoon
16:41.26dpashwhat us urg?
16:41.32dpashwhat is urgh?
16:41.45Leedsdo you mean ugh?
16:41.49dpashdamn this latency
16:42.01dpashsilent r?
16:43.00Leedsugh is cleaning up the kitchen... and emptying out the breadbox which I stopped using... a few weeks ago :-(
16:43.31dpashhmmm
16:44.49dpashwhy did I bother to do this course?
16:44.57dpashit's a hassle
16:45.12Leedsthat's between you and your Creator
16:45.33dpashwhat's my parents got to  do with anything?
16:45.54dpashI fear I may feel the same way about the parish council in a few months
16:46.01dpashho hum
16:46.21TarragonWhat essay are you trying to write?
16:47.10dpashToday is "Describe some of the ways in which gender categories can be used to explain the formation of gender identities in young children"
16:47.31Stephenbullshit alert!
16:47.46Leedsgirls wear pink dresses, boys wear shorts
16:48.10dpashtomorrow is "To what extent have changing gender identites affected the performance of girls and boys at school in the contemporary UK"
16:48.24dpashLeeds: but why is that?
16:48.32Leedsgirls learn home ec. boys learn science
16:48.43dpashwhy do boys play with cars and girls with dolls
16:48.53dpashLeeds: why si that?
16:49.05TarragonNot all girls do play with dolls
16:49.14LeedsI have no idea why... that's why I'm not doing a course which expects me to be able to answer the question :-)
16:49.22dpashLeeds: lol
16:49.27TarragonStraw poll here is 25% do
16:49.34dpashTarragon: but society expects them to
16:49.53dpashand because society expects them to, they feel that they should do
16:50.04Leedsdpash: what is 'society'?
16:50.10Leeds(good job formi isn't here right now)
16:50.12TarragonGod yes. Want them to grow up and be able to look after babies
16:50.49dpashLeeds: I want to do a Law degree not socieology
16:51.25dpashLeeds: s/society/culture/ if you want
16:52.58dpashI should find some that do not sit in the ear
16:53.42dpashLOL http://lwn.net/Articles/27896/
16:54.29dpashdoes anyone else find that in-ear headphones make your ears hurt after a while?
16:54.35Leedsheh...
16:55.01Leedsdpash: yes... depends on how good they are...  I've also got some over-ear ones, with a little hook - shitty sound, but comfortable
16:55.41dpashLeeds: these were reasonably pricy
16:55.45dpashpricey
16:56.11LeedsI have a decent pair at work... Sonys
16:56.24dpashso are these
16:56.50dpashI maight get some sony hifi headphones for at home
16:56.59dpashand in-ear for travelling
16:57.15TarragonBig cushiony over the ear ones for decent listening, tiny bead for travel, about 1cm pads for quick stuff
16:59.26TarragonStraw poll here (local parents - 16 children) 1 in eight boys like to play with dolls until their fther finds out then they get toy guns as a present
16:59.52Leedshow about Action Man - is he a doll?
17:00.04TarragonYes
17:00.17dpashhmm IE is not showing images
17:00.25Leedsah, well
17:01.05TarragonI am being told here Action man may not be a doll. depends on whether child plays with figure or accessories
17:01.15Leedsthat sort of confuses things, because he's a doll who has guns :-)
17:01.30Leedshaving a party or something?
17:01.31dpashhmmm I loved my action man parachute when I was a kid
17:01.47LeedsI liked the gadgety weapons :-)
17:02.19TarragonSat afternoon. coffee almost a mothers meeting. I am hiding by being online
17:06.45ClyphoxDamn Tool is old!
17:06.54LeedsTool?
17:12.08Clyphoxtool
17:12.13Clyphoxits a band
17:12.35ClyphoxI thought he was kinda new now noticed that the album I was listening too was 10 years old!
17:17.18Leedssomeone want to do me a favour and go to http://zap.crl.dec.com:9192/singleframe and tell me if anything happens?
17:17.56eye69Connecting...........
17:18.53Leedsno response?
17:19.00eye69Nope.
17:19.32TarragonTrying to connect but not getting an answer
17:19.42eye699192/tcp   filtered    unknown                
17:19.46Leedsthanks guys...
17:20.01Leedsit's a webcam server... which isn't working except for one guy
17:20.32Leedshmm... there is sunlight on my monitor - I can't see!
17:20.39eye69ARGH!
17:20.47eye69I hate that. :)
17:20.58Leedsah... clouds :-)
17:21.15eye69My computer rooms window is completely covered...ground floor facing the street
17:22.20TarragonI keep the curtains drawn as I don't like sunlight anyway.
17:22.37zacharyTarragon: vampire!
17:22.42LeedsI normally do, but it seemed such a shame to waste it today
17:28.37ClyphoxAre there any good alternatives to gtk-gnutella?
17:29.10Leedsamazon.com?
17:29.23ClyphoxI try before I buy
17:29.40Leedsit's so nice to be able to load 11 web pages (tabs) at once in Moz :-)
17:29.44Clyphoxif it weren't for napster I wouldn't have a cd collection :-)
17:29.54Clyphox11! I load dozens :-)
17:30.38Leedsno, I mean from a single bookmark :-)
17:31.22TarragonGood point - SpudUAway - how is my MP3 collection coming along. Do I need any more blank CDs? :-)
17:32.21Clyphoxwhy not just download them?
17:32.25eye69Clyphox: I use pysoulseek. Very nice.
17:32.41eye69Clyphox: Good for alternative music too.
17:33.35Clyphoxeye69: I'll try it
17:34.30eye69Clyphox: You will want hyriand's patch too. Adds a lot of functionality.
17:37.05Clyphoxk
17:37.21Clyphoxeye69: whenever you're up for some more ut btw..
17:37.32eye69Bloody crap game
17:37.38Clyphoxheh
17:37.47eye69I mean, I get like 2 seconds average lifetime...
17:38.10eye69I have problems even hitting somebody, and they kill me with one shot
17:38.12Clyphoxheh.. it gets good when you start living and taking 5 lives before being touched
17:38.19ClyphoxI know i know..
17:38.26Clyphoxits hard at the beginning
17:38.37eye69Leeds: What, UT?
17:39.07Clyphoxits not like you started easily.. its much easier to start playing against bots
17:39.31ClyphoxThere are tricks.. like if you have no Grenade/2nd weapon you can have both a kevlar vest and a helmet
17:39.39eye69In CS I can at least hit things.
17:39.54eye69Not that I've played CS for about a year, but anyway.
17:40.16ClyphoxCS gets boring..
17:40.31Clyphoxbesides you did ok
17:40.48Leedseye69: runs in Linux, right?
17:40.49ClyphoxHell you were on a bad team too.. I was getting licks too
17:40.56ClyphoxLeeds: its just a Quake3 mod
17:41.01Clyphox:-)
17:41.08eye69Leeds: Yes. It's Quake3 Urban Terror, btw. Not Unreal Tournament.
17:41.44ClyphoxI just installed Unreal tournament so I can give Alex,tom some licks (I hope)
17:41.57eye69Feel like playing that instead?
17:42.11ClyphoxI need to get my footing again..
17:42.25eye69What port does Unreal run on, anyway?
17:42.27ClyphoxI was quite good at ut2k3 when it came out
17:42.34Clyphoxnot sure
17:44.47eye69Try joining gw.upcore.net in a couple of minutes.
17:44.53Clyphoxme?
17:44.59eye69Anyone
17:45.04Clyphoxut ?
17:45.49ClyphoxGotta configure mine first.. only got it going a few min ago
17:46.59eye69Ok, it's running now.
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17:50.08nasratevening all
17:50.26Leedshey nasrat
17:58.49eye69Clyphox: ping
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18:07.11Jenson|Awaygrr my computer is so messed up, it needs to be in an institution or something
18:11.23Clyphoxeye69: wa 'gwan?
18:11.41Clyphox[yawn]
18:12.00eye69Go again
18:12.16Jenson|Awaycan anyone remember the command to remove timestamps in irssi?
18:12.22ClyphoxI'm gonna get some coffe.. play with Alex for now
18:12.57Clyphoxgoody
18:35.57JensonBBL
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19:29.10gj_Leeds: you need sometimes to see where keyboard is :-)
19:29.26Leedsyeah
19:29.57gj_Linux flat41 2.4.21-pre7 #7 SMP Sat Apr 5 17:04:46 BST 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux
19:30.00gj_:-)
19:30.17Leeds?
19:30.32gj_i am trying today to play with framebuffer
19:30.43gj_but this thing really sux
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19:30.57gj_hangs computer
19:31.15gj_Leeds: new kernel
19:31.20Leedsah, yeah
19:31.35Leedsand writing Jabber/Locust client
19:31.46gj_was ist locust ?
19:31.57gj_Leeds: there are tons of jabba` clients
19:32.09Leedswww.locust.net
19:32.22Leedsand I'm writing a 'tiny' client for my PDA :-)
19:33.32gj_i see
19:35.15gj_what is this excatly
19:35.37gj_just a way to send and recive different type of messages via text message on mobile ?
19:36.15Leedsoriginally, yes...
19:36.49gj_well, i have few simens boxes that behavies like telephones
19:37.06gj_but are just a small box with rs-232 and place to attach antenat
19:37.23gj_so with that i can write jabber gateway :-)
19:37.58gj_it is just mobile, but not portable :-)
19:38.25gj_Leeds: how much does this cost ?
19:38.49Leedsit used to cost 10p per day
19:39.01Leedsit's a long story... and I'm in the middle of something right now
19:39.20gj_alright
19:39.28ClyphoxAnyone familiar wit ipchains? need to portfw
19:41.11murbipchains doesn't do port fwarding.
19:41.21murbyou have to use ipmassomthing or other...
19:48.13Clyphoxyup..
19:51.11dummyip massquerading :)
19:51.27Clyphoxipmasadm
19:51.48murbdummy: no clyphox yep
19:51.56Clyphoxheh
19:52.01dummy:p anyone tried glftpd
19:52.01ClyphoxI win
19:53.24dummythat went flying over mah head
19:53.46ClyphoxG36 is a very nice gun
19:53.52ClyphoxEurope at its best.
19:54.21dummyahh i prefer the AK47 da terrorist gun
19:54.33ClyphoxAck.. no comparison to an AK104
19:54.46dummyim not a gun man im only 19
19:54.54dummyi know women and porn stars thats it
19:54.59ClyphoxI'm South African.. don't blame yourself
19:55.07Leedsoh no!
19:55.16Leedsan I the *only* Brit here? :-)
19:55.18ClyphoxYou know woman! now thats a claim if ever I heard one!
19:55.19dummydidnt say you werent
19:55.31dummyyeah my mommy
19:55.33dummy:)
19:55.36ClyphoxHeh
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19:55.44ClyphoxShe's playing games with YOU
19:55.50dummysouth africa died in the world cup :)
19:55.55dummyare you into cricket?
19:55.57Clyphoxdummy: died?
19:56.02Clyphoxdummy: yes
19:56.03dummyi love cricket...
19:56.14Clyphoxdummy: did I not mention I'm South African?
19:56.16dummywell they didnt do so well is what i meant
19:56.25dummyyes thats y im talkin about it
19:56.26ClyphoxAhh.. yeah I know
19:56.46ClyphoxWell all south african males are into cricket :-) well geeks like me at least
19:56.54dummyhehe
19:57.04ClyphoxI'm biased
19:57.06dummyi cant wait for america to play
19:57.10dummythey will DIEEE
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19:57.16Clyphoxhehe that will be funny
19:57.18dummyit will be mad funny liek canada got anally raped
19:57.25ClyphoxAt least they try
19:57.34dummyall i have to do is kill a few aussies
19:57.38dummycuz they killed everyone
19:58.07dummyunbeaten champs ahh stayed up all night just listening to commentary...sucks america doesnt broadcast it
19:58.11ClyphoxJust give em drugs
19:58.28ClyphoxAre you american?
19:58.29dummyshane warne was suspended for drugs i think lol
19:58.32dummyno im indian
19:58.39dummywe lost the final
19:58.41dummy:((
19:58.52LeedsClyphox: does he *sound* American?  he cares about cricket...
19:59.19dummyhaha
19:59.22dummyim americano
19:59.24ClyphoxLeeds: Just the constant refrences to "kill"
19:59.33dummyamerica does have a bad influence on me
19:59.39dummywould you liek me to say crikey?
19:59.40dummylol
20:00.05dummysaturday night steve the faggot croc hunter hes famous on tv here
20:02.08Leedsfucking spammer
20:02.37dummyme? lol
20:02.51Leedsum, no
20:02.55Leedstrafficmagnet
20:03.17dummythat was a bad jk
20:03.19dummy:)
20:03.34dummybahh sarcasm...
20:03.40Leedswhat's that?
20:03.48dummybahh sarcasm...
20:03.52Leedswhat's that?
20:03.56dummybahh sarcasm...
20:03.59Clyphoxdictionary.com
20:04.06Leedsibot sarcasm
20:04.06wish i knew, Leeds
20:04.15dummyibot dance
20:04.16ACTION does a disco dance.
20:04.16Leedsibot sarcasm is the lowest form of wit
20:04.17okay, Leeds
20:04.20Leedsibot sarcasm
20:04.21well, sarcasm is the lowest form of wit
20:04.30dummyis that rbot?
20:04.44Leedsnope. ibot.  can't you read? :-)
20:04.47Leedsibot ibot
20:04.48hmm... ibot is a blootbot now, no longer an infobot. run by BZFlag (TimRiker) on his server. see blootbot also http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ it uses SQLite but can use MySQL or other SQL for storage.
20:05.14dummynice
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20:05.21dummyshould check it out
20:05.25irvinedhello
20:05.26Leedshey dav
20:05.46Leeds?
20:05.56irvinedZaurus.
20:06.09Leedsah!
20:06.12Leedsnice?
20:06.17irvinedvery
20:06.26irvinedgoing to give Open Zaurus a bash when i find my cf reader.
20:06.37Leedsit's just an iPAQ ripoff! :-)
20:07.03irvinedhehe yeah it is
20:07.08Leedshey gj :-)
20:07.27irvinedI've been trying to find a good way/place to mount it in the car.
20:07.54Leedslots of velcro?
20:07.58irvinedonce i get it flashed, i should be able to get gps drive working
20:08.33Clyphox"London's Burning...."
20:09.13irvinedyeah i had thought about that, i plan on making a metal plate which i can attach to my mobile phone holder
20:09.15zacharyClyphox: No, that is just me cooking.
20:09.25irvinednot sure to make it fit below or above my phone.
20:10.46irvinedthe touch screen is very funky
20:11.24Clyphox".. I been drivin all night my hands wet on the wheel..."
20:11.40Leedsfunky?
20:13.41irvinedyeah i've never had one before.
20:16.20Leedswell that's disconcerting...
20:16.34Leedsjust fired up xawtv to see, full-screen, a baby suckling...
20:26.01*** join/#gllug Jenson (1000@dial81-131-176-181.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
20:26.31Jensonhey guys
20:32.36zacharyevening Jenson
20:35.32Jensonheya zachary
20:35.35Jensonhow are you?
20:49.23dpashhi all
20:50.32Jensonheya dpash
20:51.06dpashI think there is only 2, but I'm not too sure
20:51.32Jensonnah
20:51.36Jensonthere is 4 i think
20:51.48Jensonaccording to most goth dating services there are 4 anyway
20:51.59dpash:)
20:52.00Leeds4 categories?
20:52.04Jensonyeh
20:52.05Jensonmale
20:52.05dpashthis is not fun
20:52.07Jensonfemale
20:52.11dpashcheck
20:52.15Jensonand he/she and she/he
20:52.27dpashlost ya
20:52.29Leedshmm...
20:52.48Jensondpash: AKA male to female transexual
20:52.55Jensonand feamle to male transexual
20:53.22Leedsnot common categories then...
20:53.29dpashtext does mention a 2d space with feminine along one axis and masculine along the other
20:54.08dpashtaking in undifferentiated and androgynous along the way
20:54.29dpashgoogle is not being very helpful here
20:54.38Leedsgoogle?
20:54.55Leedsa library may be more helpful - and a specialist one at that
20:55.08Jensonback
20:55.11dpashI don't have time for that sort of think
20:55.13dpashthing
20:55.18dpashthat was quick
20:55.30JensonI cant believe it took us about 2 and a half hours to sort that sound out, and i just set it up in like 10 mins lol
20:55.37JensonI've reinstalled Slack twice today
20:55.38Leedsleft it to the last minute?
20:55.40Jenson4 times in the last week
20:56.16LeedsI meant dpash :-)
20:57.15dpashLeeds: of course
20:57.25dpashI wouldn't be male if I didn't
20:57.28Leedsgood to see nothing changes :-)
20:57.43Jensondpash: Does that mnake me male too?
20:57.47dpashhmmm I've been working on this too much
20:58.36dpashJenson: fuzzy gender essences
20:58.37JensonDid anyone else used to laugh at themselves when they were newbies and they realized how newbified they'd been at times
20:58.45dpashno
20:58.49dpashI was never a newbie
20:58.58Jensondpash: Yeh, well I know what gender I am....
20:59.19JensonI really wanna know what the chmod 666 command actually does though
20:59.27dpashJenson: this is the stuff I have to worry about
20:59.49dpashI prefer chmod ago+rwx
20:59.55dpashetc
21:00.02JensonI just wanna know what it does lol
21:00.03dpashalthough chmod 666 is quicker
21:00.19LeedsJenson: it gives your files to satan
21:00.21dpashrw-rw-rw-
21:00.39Jensonyeh Leeds even I'd got *that* far
21:00.39LeedsJenson: you know binary?
21:00.59JensonLeeds: nah, i used to be able to vaguely count in it, but now I dont know it at all
21:01.02Leedsand octal
21:01.05dpashyou have 3 bytes for permissions
21:01.09dpashuser, group, other
21:01.16*** join/#gllug resuDaed (~tom@pc-80-193-238-178-en.blueyonder.co.uk)
21:01.18Leedsdpash: 4!
21:01.28dpasheachof the digits in 666 refer to each in turn
21:01.32JensonI havent done binary since year 10, and I only learnt to do it then coz it was geeky
21:01.34Jensonhey resuDaed
21:01.39dpashLeeds: yeah, I'm just being simple here
21:01.43resuDaedhey Jenson
21:02.08dpash6 turns on r (4) and w (2) but turns off x(1)
21:02.11Leedsprobes or prods? :-)
21:02.18JensonWell I suppose I better take my other computer upstairs, then my dad cant kill me
21:02.20JensonBRB
21:02.27resuDaedLeeds : either, depends how asleep he is
21:02.39resuDaedits just my sound card module seems to have disappeared
21:02.54resuDaed'emu10k1' - can't modprobe it
21:03.47LeedsresuDaed: is it in /lib/modules/<kernel-version> ?
21:04.39JensonresuDaed: Are you running 2.4.19?
21:04.49JensonDamn I need to turn that announce thing off
21:05.26JensonCoz I had that problem with 2.4.19 (dont ask) and totally killed KDE too
21:06.17JensonMine is /lib/modules/2.4.18/emu10k1/emu10k1.gz.o I seem to remember
21:06.59JensonI better finish moving this thing
21:07.00JensonBRB
21:11.30resuDaedJenson : 2.4.20 :p
21:12.52JensonresuDaed: havent met that one so i coulndt say
21:12.59dummycurry?
21:13.12Leedsdummy: yeah - most popular meal in the UK :-)
21:13.23dummyohh
21:13.27dummyindian curry?
21:13.43Leedssort of...
21:13.49dummyshit...
21:13.55dummyi dont get curry dammit
21:14.02Leedsit's a tandorri place... I've never actually eaten there before, but been past it plenty of times...
21:14.05Leedsyou don't like curry?
21:14.06dummyuk has too many indians
21:14.09dummytandori
21:14.15dummydamn dude im indian
21:14.17dummyi die for that here
21:14.23dummytandori chicken
21:14.28dummychicken tikka masala
21:14.30dummyahhh
21:14.42Leedsuk indian food isn't like indian indian...  
21:14.58dummyoh yes its less spicier
21:15.02Leedssounds good - except that I don't eat non-kosher meat, so I'm on veggie stuff
21:15.08Leedswhich one is less spicy?
21:15.18dummybut its more or less indian...its like american india
21:15.21dummyprolly the uk one cuz you guys have weak stomachs :)
21:15.37Leedsnah, I think the UK one is stronger... there's a lot of macho goes into a strong curry
21:15.38dummyamerican indian is k they dont add everything in it
21:15.52dummyim comparing ti with india not US
21:15.55dummyhehe
21:15.55dummy:)
21:16.07dummydude USA = imported bad food
21:16.15Leedsby american indian you mean indian in america or 'native american'?
21:16.21dummyso what do uw anna eat, pizza burger or fries thats all i get
21:16.35dummyas in indians born in america or immigrant indians
21:17.06Leedsoh, that's just confusing :-)
21:17.14dummylol
21:17.19Leedsbuger is German, fries are french, pizza is Italian :-)
21:17.27Leedsburger=buger
21:17.31dummyyes like is aid imported food :)
21:17.47Leedsmy sister is somewhere in India at the moment... somewhere north, last thing I heard...
21:17.54dummyin 1 yr i gained liek 10 kilos
21:17.59dummydelhi?
21:18.02Leedsdunno
21:18.04dummyshes in india ahh nice
21:18.20zacharyI'm off to bed good night
21:18.23Leedsanyway... I'm going out... back in a bit
21:18.31dummypeace
21:18.39LeedsI wish :-(
21:21.42Jensonmy dad has decided he's sleeping on the sofabed coz he has a cold, but I don't think he realizes that I'll be doing loud music and loud typing until about midnight, plus my mother reminded him she works with little kids that dont blow their noses lol
21:22.02dpashparents bah
21:22.09dpashhmmm I should alias that
21:22.27Jensonaslong as he doesnt make me go to bed early lol
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21:23.43Jensonwb resuDaed
21:24.17resuDaedty Jenson
21:37.20*** join/#gllug resuDaed (~tom@pc-80-193-238-178-en.blueyonder.co.uk)
21:37.35Jensonwb again
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22:01.12Leedsmmm...
22:01.43Jensonwhat is resuDaed doing?
22:01.54Leedsthe hokey=cokey
22:02.09Leedsni, out, in, out
22:05.23dpashlol
22:06.43Leedsibot hokey-cokey
22:06.44i don't know, Leeds
22:06.51Leedsor however you spell it
22:10.48dpashibot: hokey-cokey is resuDaed's favourite pasttime
22:10.49okay, dpash
22:11.00dpashibot hokey-cokey
22:11.00[hokey-cokey] resuDaed's favourite pasttime
22:11.07Jensonheh
22:11.19dpashibot hokey-cokey
22:11.20i guess hokey-cokey is resuDaed's favourite pasttime
22:18.19dpashis jenson still around?
22:19.11Jensonim sleey
22:19.13Jensonsleepy
22:19.28Jensonjust arguing with an install
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22:46.58*** join/#gllug skugg (~stig@braut.plus.com)
22:47.25skugghey. anybody awake? :)
22:47.27Leedsyup
22:48.27skuggi've just released my 3rd year project on freshmeat.net ... it's on the frontpage, currently third item down :}
22:49.55skuggi'm hoping to get some input I can use in my report...
22:50.11skugghope I won't get flamed to hell and back :)
22:50.21Leedson my way :-)
23:01.45Leedsmy comment: it doesn't look like something I have any need of... so no comment :-)
23:02.44Jensonmy comment: if i slow down and read the instructions i might manage to install it but dont bet on it, although i did manage to successfully install something for the first time today lol
23:04.36skuggLeeds, I'll take your comments under consideration :)
23:07.43Jensonskugg: If I ever work out how to install it I'll give you some input too lol
23:08.07skuggJenson, what are you having trouble with?
23:08.24skuggi'll (try to) walk you through it if you want.
23:08.34Jensondont worry about it
23:08.46JensonI'm just a newbie, I only learnt to install today anyway
23:08.51skugg:)
23:09.03skuggyou read the INSTALL file, right? :)
23:09.13JensonIt's taken me 6 months but today I successfully installed a program.....tell that to a Win user lol
23:09.16JensonYeh I did
23:09.37JensonWell, at first I didn't, I'm so used to Win and not reading anything lol
23:11.13JensonI just cant follow instructions
23:11.16*** join/#gllug resuDaed (~tom@pc-80-193-238-178-en.blueyonder.co.uk)
23:11.21JensonEither that or Slack is being a bitch
23:12.40resuDaedevening Jenson
23:13.02Jensonheh i did it, in the most unconventional Windoes style way but heh
23:13.03dummyJenson: program like a slack packagge...
23:13.30dummywhat do you mean? :)
23:13.58Jensoni dragged the configure icon and dumped it on the console window lol
23:14.21dummywhaaa?
23:14.29dummyJenson: you give me the creeps...
23:14.32Jensonheh well it worked
23:14.50dummyyou use slackware?
23:15.16Jensonyeh
23:15.32dummykewl
23:15.49dummydoes that mean its jsut installed or you utilze it :)
23:16.05JensonWell I'm online arent I, so I must utilize it
23:16.14dummythats cool :)
23:16.47Jensongrrr fuck, i didnt mean to install the whole thing in the home directory, should have checked which directory i was in lol
23:17.03dummy:)
23:17.08dummyyou can mv it
23:17.12Jensonim a twonkle lol
23:17.20Jensonyeh i'll drag it somewhere else lol
23:17.30dummyno
23:17.34dummytype
23:17.41dummymv /home/dummy/gaim /usr/dummysummy
23:17.45dummy:)
23:18.32Jensoni installed gaim today....the first thing I have ever successfully installed in linux lol
23:18.45Leedsibot Jenson
23:18.46extra, extra, read all about it, jenson is Not in London
23:18.51Jensononly coz i coulnt be bothered to install it off the CD
23:19.03Leedsibot jenson is also a twonkle
23:19.04okay, Leeds
23:19.26Jensonthanks Leeds
23:19.30Jensonibot jenson
23:19.31you are probably probably a geek girl
23:19.35Leedspleasure
23:19.41Leedsibot jenson is also a twonkle
23:19.42okay, Leeds
23:19.46Leedsibot Jenson
23:19.46methinks jenson is Not in London
23:19.52Jensonas long as it doesnt tell me im going out with dan thats cool
23:19.57Jensonibot jenson
23:19.57somebody said jenson was Any number of other things
23:20.07Jensonibot jenson
23:20.09you are, like, A little crazy
23:20.13Jensonlmao
23:20.17Leedshow well he knows you
23:20.25Jensonlol i think someone told him
23:24.04LeedsJenson: you do know Xsnow, right?
23:24.39Jensonno
23:24.49Leedsargh, /me should have bought something sweet for desert...
23:24.53dummyLeeds: i love xsnow
23:25.06dummyhttp://toxicity.ath.cx:81/screen.png
23:25.11dummyxsnowwwwwwwwww :)
23:25.27skuggdummy, try xroach. that's the situation I have here anyway.
23:25.35Leedstry http://www.klepp.info/jsSnow/
23:25.52skuggi'm spraying Raid insect spray everywhere.
23:26.45Jensonskugg: i installed it lol, now i gotta work out how to run it at some point
23:27.42skuggJenson, where did you install it?
23:27.50skuggdid you use the default location?
23:27.57Jensonskugg: in the home directory by accident lol
23:28.07Jensonthen i dragged it into the build directory
23:28.38Jensoni installed it in the most uncovential way of dragging the icon onto the consle
23:28.51skuggdoes that mean that you used `../configure --prefix $HOME' or something?
23:29.37Jensonthat means I didnt check which directory I was in before I dragged the icon onto the console
23:29.47skuggokay...
23:30.04dummyxroach?
23:30.07dummyumm
23:30.38skuggJenson, then I suggest running configure again, otherwise it will install to $HOME again methinks...
23:31.04Jensonskugg: maybe tomorrow
23:31.13Jensonheh im not sure anyone has
23:31.35JensonAnyway, time for bed methinks
23:31.39Jensonsee ya tomorrow guys
23:31.50Jensonnn all
23:31.51skuggnight
23:32.05Jensonnight skugg
23:32.07Jensonnight Leeds
23:32.10Jensonnight dummy
23:32.13dummyLeeds: its the same thing
23:32.16dummynight
23:35.33dummyskugg: from where do ig et xroach
23:35.40dummydamn tried google only found deb packages
23:36.16skuggdummy, haven't got a clue.
23:36.30skuggi've got debian, so i don't have to worry ;)
23:36.46dummydie whore
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23:36.52dummy:)
23:37.16dummylibranet rulz
23:37.24dummynever tried it...

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