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00:21.58Leedsdummy: grab the debian package and unpack it
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02:18.12eye69*yawn*
06:09.24Clyphox*yawn*
06:09.36Clyphox<-tired
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07:23.12zacharygood morning
08:38.42TarragonMorning
09:32.56murbmoin
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10:52.09formimornings
11:02.09formigone by
11:02.17Leedsyup
11:02.55formiLeeds: you are always up for time "corrections"
11:03.10Leedsyup
11:03.33formifeeling mono-worded today?
11:03.39Leedsyup
11:04.06formiwhat about a fsck /dev/brain ?
11:04.40Leeds/dev/brain: file not found'
11:04.53formii run one on me this morning
11:05.04formigot a seg fault
11:05.49formiim trying to improve my local-net dns server
11:06.24formii believe i need a forwarders to be added
11:06.47formibecause i can see a lot of querying the root servers
11:07.07formieverytime i run tcpdump i find something to improve
11:07.22Leedsis it meant to be caching?
11:07.50formigood question!
11:08.06formiit is meant to, now if it is doing it is another thing
11:08.48formizone "localdomain.org" {
11:08.48formi<PROTECTED>
11:08.48formi<PROTECTED>
11:08.48formi<PROTECTED>
11:08.48formi<PROTECTED>
11:09.31formii had the understanding that the "notify no" would stop it from trying to synchronize
11:09.52formiit is firewalled anyway
11:10.05LeedsI've told you before - I'm no BIND guru :-)
11:10.16formiya
11:10.18formii know
11:10.19formibut
11:10.34formiyou seem faster at googling than me
11:10.53Leedsrtfh
11:12.18formiLeeds: believe me I have tried many times to read the manuals, but they are just written in a way that stops me reading them to the end
11:12.35Leedsnot the manuals... the HOWTO
11:12.45formisame thing also
11:13.44formii have this "disability", I can't seem to be able to do things the "standard" way
11:14.01Leedsyeah, I've noticed
11:14.18formido you think I could apply for "disability benefits" ?
11:14.59formiprobably to do with being born arse first
11:33.10formiLeeds: http://www.farodevigo.es/humor/GOGUE.JPG
11:33.37formitranslation: What's that? A weapon of mass destruction!!
11:35.19Huhnre
11:35.40formipetimos ??
11:56.51murb!guru bind
11:57.00murbibot, guru bind?
11:57.01murb: I wish you would RTFM.
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11:57.50murbhi dank, how was skiing?
11:57.52formi_BXBmurb: are you a bind guru?
11:57.58Jensonhey guys
11:58.01dankolbFoo
11:58.03dankolbSkiing was good
11:58.05dankolbhow about yours?
11:58.06formihello
11:58.38dankolbhi formi
11:59.00dankolbSome of the runs were already closed, unfortunately :(
11:59.06murbmkraid /dev/brain0
12:00.13murbdank: have you done dry sking at wycombe summit?
12:00.20dankolbI haven't, no.
12:00.32dankolbMany years ago I did some at Hillingdon, but I much prefer snow
12:02.39dpash_hi all
12:02.46dpash_hi dankolb
12:02.51dpash_hmm interesting
12:03.16Jensonheya dpash
12:03.34murbhmm soem geekski pics http://www.lbedford.org/gallery/geekski2003, http://hands.com/gallery/tux2003, http://netdude.org/lbw/geekski/ , http://www.hands.com/~phil/tux2003/
12:04.08dankolbOkay :) I, errr, wanted to be getting pictures off my cameras
12:04.25dpashI was hoping to do some work by now
12:04.33dpashgrrr
12:04.39Leedsdpash: when's your deadline? :-)
12:04.46dpashTuesday evening
12:04.48Jensondpash: yeh i just had breakfast too
12:05.20murbis it legal to work at the weekend?
12:05.28dpashquick irc and mail, then work
12:05.30dankolbYes
12:05.40Leedsmurb: it's Uni work...
12:05.40dpashmurb: it is when you have to write 2 essays in a few days
12:06.04murbLeeds: i thought Uni work was supposed to be always done on a JIT basisi?
12:06.15dpashindeed it is
12:06.22murbstarting more than a few hours before a deadline is cheating.
12:06.31dpashbut as I work during the day, I have today and Monday night
12:06.46dpashmurb: 1500 words in a few hours is not going ot work
12:07.32murbyou should easily be able to type that in 40 or 50 minutes depending on your typing speed
12:07.56murband seeing as you irc i imaging it would be adiqut.
12:08.22murbthen spend 10 minutes ispelling it and another 10 minutes to proof read and you're completed.
12:08.54murbalternativly you could just give up now.
12:09.17dpashmurb: ideally I would like the essays to make sense and be relevant to the questions
12:11.51murbwhat an inconvient requirement!
12:20.37formiquestion: do ssh tunnels "tunnel" both udp-tcp traffic by default? or does it need to be specified?
12:22.56dpashformi: I would imagine that it has to be specified, but I'm not sure if udp over ssh would work
12:25.46dankolbhi Huhn
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13:58.29gj_http://neasia.nikkeibp.com/wcs/leaf?CID=onair/asabt/news/240311
13:58.38gj_Leeds: :-)
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14:01.02zacharygood afternoon
14:17.14dankolbhi
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14:17.55zacharywb dankolb, hi Jenson
14:18.15Jensonhey zachary
14:19.19JensonTesco Value quiche is nice
14:21.38dankolbEat off your feet?
14:22.10Jensonewww, I dont wanna get quiche on my socks
14:22.42JensonBRB
14:25.12Jensonback
14:33.39Jensongrrr its cold i'm gonna go put the heating on
14:34.34Jensonheating is on accordidng to it, must come on at 3:30
14:34.37Leedsbloody GTK
14:34.52dankolbIndeed
14:35.01zacharyfrustrations Leeds
14:35.02dankolb(or Motif)
14:35.08JensonThat reminds me
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14:35.23dankolbHi new2unix
14:35.23Jensonmust try to figure out why the fuck I couldnt install lmule last night
14:35.30new2unixhi all. hi dan
14:35.59Leedsdankolb: yeah, right :-)
14:36.06dankolbLeeds: To which one? :)"
14:36.42JensonWhy is it when I install a package it says it isnt installed lol
14:36.46Leedsboth...
14:36.49Leedsthis is iPAQ work
14:37.17dankolbJenson: Eh?
14:38.13Jensondankolb: I was trying to install wxGTK, so that lmule would complile, but the package manager doesnt seem to install the rpm right, and i dont actually know what im doing anyway, so after abut 45mins yesterday I gaveup lol
14:38.28Jensonibot bitchslap mutt and gpg
14:38.29ACTION beats the sh*t out of mutt and gpg
14:38.36dankolbRPM?
14:38.38Huhnthanks, Jenson
14:38.38Leedsmust not get drawn in... must stay out...
14:38.54Huhnanyone using mutt with gpg?
14:39.04HuhnI get weird error messages here..
14:39.16Jensondankolb: Well I had the choice of d/ling it as an rpm or a deb
14:39.47dankolbAnd, in specific, IIRC, 'alien -t <foo.rpm>'
14:40.17Leedsrpm2targz
14:40.32new2unixhuhn: i'm using mutt without gpg
14:40.39JensonI CBA with it anymore, Linux is just fucked lol
14:40.49JensonNot as fucked as my Win install but nevermnd
14:41.18Huhnnew2unix: thanks, mutt is fine, but I can't get gpg to work
14:41.29Leedshttp://www.gadgeteer.org/
14:42.54Jensondankolb: I have FreeBSD, but nowhere to install it
14:43.15zacharyLeeds: Now that is geeky!
14:43.26dankolbDidn't you have a spare partition?
14:44.08Jensondankolb: I did yeh, but after killing linux 3 times trying to make it a second vfat partition, i just gave all 12GB to Slack and be done with it
14:44.33dankolbAh
14:45.52new2unix<PROTECTED>
14:46.49new2unixbye all
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14:47.00Jensonbye new2unix
14:47.29Jensongrrr why am I incapable of installing one package
14:47.51JensonAlthohg the package manager says it isntalled, the console says it isnt and I have no idea where it thinks its installed it anyway
14:48.31zacharyJenson: What options did you use with the rpm command?
14:48.32dankolbUhh....
14:49.15Jensonzachary: I dunno lol, I learnt it from dpash
14:49.39zacharytry rpm -i package.rpm
14:49.45Jensonok then
14:49.52Jensonpackage manager doenst think its installed either
14:49.53Jensonffs
14:49.54Jensonlol
14:50.04zacharymust do as root
14:50.12Jensonyeh
14:51.58Jensonnah it still doesnt work
14:52.33dankolbrpm -qa
14:53.24JensonI'm gonna find something else to install
14:53.25dankolbGood plan
14:53.41Jensonheh i know
14:54.38Jensongrrr ive got an icon stuck to the mouse lol
14:54.52Jensonahhh the rpm icon is chasing me
14:54.55Jensonit wont go way lol
14:55.02dankolbReset button :)
14:55.23Jensoni shouldnt have tried the picking up and dragging method lol
14:55.56Jensonyay its gone
14:56.39Leedsjabber/locust client is really coming along :-)
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14:58.40murbhello
14:58.42dankolbhi murb
14:59.20Jensonhey murb
14:59.43murbcold day
14:59.51murband not enough time to cycle to oxford
15:07.26Stephenhmm, what time is oxlug? 18:30?
15:07.47dankolbYup
15:07.49dankolbIn Trinity
15:08.06dankolbAnd the oh-so-lively #oxlug channel :)
15:08.22Leedsboo hiss oxlug
15:08.54dankolbOnly coz your car was shit
15:09.55LeedsI still hold agk completely responsible
15:10.04Stephenyer, I think I can make it as well, even though there's no inter-campus bus
15:10.25Stephenha, as if
15:10.27dankolbLeeds: Always putting the blame on someone else
15:10.50Jensonwhinge whinge dankolb and Leeds
15:11.00dankolbMe? I'm not whinging
15:11.33Jenson:D
15:11.36Jensoncute
15:11.39Jensonpair of ya
15:11.43Jensonso cute
15:11.43Jensonlol
15:12.32Leedsah, piss off, blondie
15:12.43Jensonheh
15:12.48Jensonibot lart Leeds
15:13.56Jensonevil bot lol
15:17.14Stephendon't use it then
15:18.28Leedshmmm... tescos closes at 5 or closed at 4?
15:18.57murbprobably 4
15:19.03murbif it opened at 10
15:19.12murb5 if it opened at 11
15:19.13StephenI know our local ASDA shuts at 4
15:19.22Jenson4
15:19.24Jenson10 til 4
15:20.32Leedshmm... brent cross is still open... means M&S probably are and Waitrose might be
15:21.41Leedsand the bakery will still be open :-)
15:21.58dankolbBagels?
15:22.09JensonBRB
15:22.23Leedsoh course!
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15:31.22zacharybrb
15:36.35dankolbSee y'all tomorrow
15:37.28Stephenyer, cya this evening dan
15:37.37Stephen(hopefully)
15:37.38dankolbOkay. Identify yourself, though :)
15:37.47Jensonseeya Dan
15:37.54StephenI did last time, I even gave you that cable
15:37.57Stephen;)
15:38.01dankolbAh. Yes :)
15:38.04dankolbI forgot :)
15:38.09Jensonheh#
15:38.31JensonHe scrounges so much stuff that he forgets who's who lol
15:38.36dankolbYup
15:39.43Stephenhehe
15:40.10JensonWere you at the last gllug Stephen?
15:40.14Stephenmy mate actually asked for the cable, and I was like, 'um ... I gave it away'
15:40.23StephenJenson: the installfest? yes
15:40.59JensonYeh well Dan musta scrounged stuff off of about 6 people there
15:41.17JensonDid I meet you then?
15:43.16Stephenaye, briefly
15:43.39Jensonheh, I don't remember, I'm scatty
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15:48.42Jensonwb zachary
15:48.55zacharyty
15:49.38zachary<rant>gnucash is a pile of pigeon drop.</rant>
15:50.08JensonBeen having fun with it have you zachary?
15:51.03zacharyYes, I'm having too much fun trying to find a finance ap that can handle equity investment transactions.
15:52.29zacharyms money hadles them just fine, but has problems with data handling, mess up my checking account really bad.
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16:47.49JensonWell, time to go BBL after the F1 sometime
16:49.07Leedswell that was a long shopping trip, considering I just went to the supermarket and bakery
16:53.59Leedsam I the only one watching Full Metal Challenge?
16:56.19Leedsit's kind of Robot Wars, with full-sized vehicles with people in them, and more imaginative stuff than just destroying each other...
16:56.34Leedslooks interesting... and it's got Cathy Rogers presenting it :-)
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19:12.38ClyphoxI booted netBSD!!
19:12.50JensonClyphox: Did you see the F1?
19:13.16ClyphoxJust a little bit
19:13.22ClyphoxWhy?
19:13.30JensonFreaky race
19:14.41ClyphoxWhy?
19:14.48ClyphoxWhat happened?
19:14.56ClyphoxDidn't Micheal win!?!
19:14.56murb<PROTECTED>
19:14.59murbwowe
19:15.06murbon anything intersting?
19:15.11murb(hardware wise?)
19:15.16Clyphoxmurb: Yeah
19:15.33Clyphoxmurb: a system with a Cyliders past 1024
19:15.51ClyphoxTaken me about 13 tries to get it to "actually" boot
19:16.28JensonThe Ferarris didnt finish
19:16.52Clyphoxgood
19:17.00ClyphoxThey dominate too much
19:17.37JensonKimi baby won :) Although Fisi deserved to win, and Alonso got hurt :(
19:17.51JensonAnd Jenson Button looked like he needed a hairbrush
19:18.58ClyphoxMusic works!
19:19.03Clyphoxnetbsd is just cool
19:28.59ClyphoxWhats +v in irc?
19:30.51Clyphoxping
19:30.53eye69Voice.
19:31.18ClyphoxI got kicked for dissing mozilla hehe
19:31.20eye69If the channel is +m (moderated), only ops and people with +v can talk in the channel
19:31.29ClyphoxAhh cool
19:31.40Clyphoxso +v = good
19:31.51eye69Well, only useful if the channel is moderated.
19:32.01eye69Most channels never use +m
19:32.10ClyphoxYuo
19:32.12Clyphoxer yup
19:32.36eye69Yet clueless people still insist on getting +v. Some ego thing, I guess.
19:32.46ClyphoxHow familiar are you with netbsd?
19:33.53eye69Not really.
19:34.01ClyphoxNot sure about why perl isn't letting me compile my kernel options
19:34.23ClyphoxI'm setting up my new server. With bonus IP forwarding hehe
19:58.58ClyphoxI can't install the perl 5.8 .tgz because I've already built perl 5.6 from pkgsrc
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20:25.29Jensonheya formi
20:27.38formihi
20:28.06formiany news on resudaed?
20:28.41Jensonnews?
20:29.36Jensonnews about what formi?
20:30.11formihave you seen him lately?
20:30.21Jensonnot today?
20:30.29formithere is an issue I need to clarify with him
20:30.41Jensonibot seen resuDaed
20:30.43resudaed <~tom@pc-80-193-238-178-en.blueyonder.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 21h 18m 3s ago, saying: 'evening Jenson '.
20:30.59formii did check with ibot
20:31.15JensonI havent seen him since last night no
20:32.35formiif you talk to him, tell him I want to have a word
20:32.49Jensonok then
20:32.56Jensonabout what?
20:33.01formihe might have to change his nick
20:33.08Jensonwhy?
20:34.11formito Dead&5FeetUnder
20:34.32JensonInteresting nick
20:35.56formibelieve me, he wouldn't like to GET it
20:36.20JensonWhat's he done to deserve such a nick anyway?
20:36.51formithat is not for public consumption yet, maybe on his obituary
20:37.58Jensonheh, I'll tell him that you want to kill him for something then
20:38.15formidon't jump the gun yet
20:38.31Jensonheh
20:39.20formijust tell him I want to talk to him
20:39.29Jensonyeh ok
20:40.00Leedsformi: chill, man...
20:40.35formiLeeds: I am trying to get jenson to chill
20:41.55Leedsyou're the one publicly threatening to kill someone :-)
20:43.23formii said "might", and death is something that can happen to anybody/anytime
20:45.53formiand really, did I threat anybody?
20:47.41Leedsby implication, yes
20:48.45formiJenson: you were the one who started it
20:48.51Jensoni was not
20:48.58Jensonyou said you were looking for resu
20:49.40formiread what you said before my "jump the gun" reply
20:49.58Jensonheh you started it
20:50.03formino
20:50.17Huhnoh my God, don't you 2 have more important things to do?
20:50.27formii mentioned a few words, and you imagined the rest
20:50.32JensonHuhn: No, he started it
20:50.40Huhnthis is so ridiculous
20:51.13JensonHuhn: I know, but then again, I'm not the one arguing, I said I was staying out of it and he said I started it
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20:52.00formiHuhn: i don't think is ridiculus when somebody puts words on you mouth, and saying you threatened to kill somebody
20:52.11Jensonformi: Leeds said that not me
20:52.30formi<Jenson> heh, I'll tell him that you want to kill him for something then
20:52.42formithat is your own words
20:52.58JensonLeeds: I am trying to get jenson to chill
20:52.58Jenson<Leeds> you're the one publicly threatening to kill someone :-)
20:54.02formiJenson: what i meant him "trying to get jenson to chill" was that you were taking things out of place
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20:54.29Jensonwhatever
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20:56.01Jensonheya cupis
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20:57.53cupishi Jenson
20:59.16cupishow goes it?
20:59.23Jensonalright
20:59.24Jensonyou?
21:00.16cupisokay, thanks
21:02.06JensonI need to reconnect BBS
21:02.12ClyphoxOi Oi
21:02.20Clyphoxwa 'gwan
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21:05.34cupiswb Jenson
21:05.40Jensonty cupis
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21:10.40Jensonwb Leeds
21:10.45Leedshey :-)
21:11.45Leedslol - Phill Jupitus doing Eddie Izzard :-)
21:14.13cupishey dpash
21:14.20JensonIt's too quiet in here, it's making me sleepy
21:14.24Jensonhey dpash
21:14.32Leedsthen go to bed!  work in the morning :-(
21:14.53Jensonhe is here yeah
21:14.59Jensonwell on /msg at least
21:15.08cupisJenson: ah, okay
21:17.40dpashyep
21:17.48dpashbbia 15
21:17.56cupisk
21:18.21ClyphoxI keep on thinking about depash mode
21:26.59dpashback
21:27.08Clyphoxforward
21:27.20dpashClyphox: I keep thinking about the Clap
21:27.40Clyphoxhehe.. alas I can't help with that
21:28.11dummydepeche
21:28.15dummy:P
21:28.33dpashdummy: you are a dummy
21:29.41dpashhttp://www.asciipr0n.com/archive/0013/bonnie/craft/
21:29.44dpashLOL
21:30.15eye69The classic /.-effect. :)
21:31.16Jensonheh
21:33.03dpashbrainfuck
21:33.08dpashargh
21:33.12dpashwhat is wrong with me
21:34.09Leedswell, you're looking at brainfuck... that's a start
21:35.10cupisand you probably just came from slashdot, so...
21:35.12dpashit all started from fuckfuck
21:35.51cupisand: <dpash> ... I keep thinking about the Clap
21:36.09Leedsthe Clap?
21:37.36dpashhmmm doesn't look good does it
21:38.48Jensongrrr ffs, doesnt anything compile without errors on this thing
21:38.51dpashcupis: did you ping in #debian-kde?
21:39.08cupisdpash: no
21:39.15dpashJenson: you wouldn't need to compile anything if you were using debian :)
21:39.21Jensondpash: True
21:39.25dpashhmm I wonder who it was then
21:39.33cupisdpash: after our last conv, I finished it in #
21:39.42dpashI was away, but got disconnected /again/
21:39.45cupis#debian-kde - maybe that's it
21:39.53Jensonand what is Qt anyway?
21:39.57dpashI was here lunch time
21:40.06dpashlibrary used by KDE
21:40.15dpashmuch like gtk is used by gnome
21:40.23LeedsNorwegian stuff... big, ugly and C++
21:40.26cupisand motif is used by...
21:40.32JensonI had gtk problems yesterday
21:40.41Leedscupis: good, old-fashinged UNIX
21:40.48cupisLeeds: CDE?
21:40.51Jensonbut I can compile this program without Qt
21:40.57Leedscupis: that's what I said :-)
21:41.05JensonCant even
21:41.11cupisLeeds: people still use CDE? eww.
21:41.26Leedsa few people at work... most people use GNOME or something random
21:41.34JensonAll I wanna do is install some CD burning GUI...because Win is refusing to install it so I have to work out how to use Linux
21:41.51LeedsJenson: GUIs are for soft brains
21:42.08cupisJenson: what exactly are you trying to install?
21:42.14LeedsCD-writing is really simple... quicker and easier with a command-line
21:42.33JensonLeeds: Yeh I seem to remember i dont know how to do it lol
21:42.44LeedsJenson: did you read the HOWTO?
21:42.48cupisLeeds: many things are, but people still want to use GUI's - to each their own
21:43.10Jensoncupis: CDbakeoven or k3b
21:43.22JensonLeeds: No, I usually burn CDs in Win, but its fucked
21:43.30dpashJenson: cupis maintains one of those
21:43.38dpashcdbakeoven iirc
21:43.44cupisdpash: correct
21:43.48dpashso he may beslightly biaed
21:43.52LeedsJenson: read the HOWTO... follow the instructions... burn CDs... be happy
21:43.53dpashbiased
21:43.56dpashffs
21:43.56Jensonyeh well thats what im trying to compile lol
21:44.00JensonLeeds: yeh good idea
21:44.07dpashis it an iso?
21:44.26dpashcdrecord device=0,0,0 -data foo.iso
21:44.34Jensondpash: Nah I want to copy from one CD to another
21:44.42dpashuse cdrecord -scanbus for correct number
21:44.44JensonOr rather my mother wants me to
21:45.01Leedsdd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso ; cdrecord device=0,0,0 speed=24 -v image.iso
21:45.08dpashwill dd if=dev/cdrom of=foo.iso work?
21:45.18dpashseems so :)
21:45.22Leedsshould do :-)
21:45.24cupisdpash: it should
21:45.33Leedsit's not the nicest way, but it's the easiest
21:45.47cupisdpash: assuming you are in the root (/) directory
21:45.48JensonHow is that easy, I call throwing CDs in the drive and pressing copy easy
21:45.49dpashdd is always the nicest way :)
21:45.54cupis(and have root priv.)
21:45.56JensonMaybe I better go reinstall Win
21:46.07Jensonor I could just let her get someone else to do it
21:46.13dpashcupis: yeah yeah
21:46.18cupisJenson: what CD is it?
21:46.18dpashlatency n' all
21:46.28JensonI'm finally believing my Dad that linux is nothing but trouble.....except Win is more fucked.
21:46.28dpashnot copyrighted is it?
21:46.30cupisdpash: that old excuse?
21:46.44Jensoncupis: Some free worksheets or something that she wants to give to the other teachers
21:46.55dpashcupis: you try using irc with 700+ms latency between you and your client
21:47.17cupisJenson: don't let slackware tarnish Linux's (and everyone else's) good name(s)
21:47.23Jensonheh
21:47.26Leedsdd is good pre-historic Unix stuff - bears no relation to any other command in history and has a stupid number of options which haven't been used in 15 years - but where you don't need to know any of them :-)
21:47.37Leedsdpash: where are you, anyway?
21:47.44cupisdpash: I can do better than that, but I'm not silly enough to try.
21:47.51dpashLeeds: home
21:48.03Leedsdpash: so why the stupid latency?
21:48.13dpashMin 790ms, Max 1048, avg 886
21:48.19Leedsit's not sat crap, is it?
21:48.19cupisLeeds: his irc client is running on a machine at work
21:48.25Clyphoxwho said dd ?
21:48.26cupisLeeds: yep
21:48.27dpashLeeds: cos my irc client is the wrong end of a satellite link
21:48.39Leedsthen... why not run a local one?
21:48.39cupisClyphox: dpash
21:48.49LeedsClyphox: I did... and dpash did, at the same time
21:48.56dpashLeeds: because I can't find a better client than irssi
21:48.57ClyphoxIIRC the first 512 bytes of hda is the MBR yes?
21:48.58cupisLeeds: don't confuse him with logic
21:49.10cupisClyphox: hmmm
21:49.13dpashI love dd
21:49.20Leedsdpash: and you can't run that, whatever it is, locally?
21:49.22Jensondpash: Ask Dan for a username on his server, he's running irssi and its not lagged
21:49.25dpashand I like using screen
21:49.37Clyphoxcupis: is it the fdisk table?
21:49.41dpashJenson: but it would be at work :(
21:49.50dpashI use irc mostly at work
21:50.04cupisClyphox: yes for the first, no for the second, I think
21:50.09dpashLeeds: I prefer to run irc all the time
21:50.22dpashand having 2 nicks is evil
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21:50.54Leedsanyway... it's not important... just illogical :-)
21:50.58cupis_workdpash: who are you calling evil?
21:50.59Clyphoxcupis: I think it must do something with the fdisk table cause it restored it I think.. (not 100%)
21:51.16dpashcupis_work: you, ya tart
21:51.38Clyphoxyou called him a tart
21:51.44Jensonheh
21:51.54Leedshe is a tart
21:51.56cupisI'm an evil tart?
21:52.04dpashLeeds: I prefer running one irc client all the time than having low latency for the small amount of time that I dial up to use it
21:52.06ClyphoxI am beink thinkink you hurt his feelinkgs
21:52.13dpashcupis: no, cupis_work is
21:52.18Clyphoxahh..
21:52.26cupisdpash: oh, i don't know her
21:53.48Clyphoxgah
21:54.22ClyphoxAnyone got the url for the ptrace expoit code? I have only wget atm
21:55.25dpashhacker hacker dirty hacker
21:55.49Clyphoxits for a friends
21:55.52Clyphoxer friend
21:56.19murbevil haxor person?
21:56.20Clyphoxhe want me to check his kernel .config but won't let me sudo or have root's passwd
21:56.28murbright.
21:56.33Clyphoxso I'm not gonna debate it with him..
21:56.50cupisClyphox: what's your friends name? NatWest? :)
21:57.23Clyphoxits clyphox btw
21:58.07Leedsah, sillyfox
21:58.14Clyphoxheh
21:58.20Clyphoxfine
21:58.30murb./msg clyphox i just wantted to take the piss out of his nick bEE2643 indeed
21:58.48JensonClyphox: Just ignore the silly idiots :P
22:14.52dummylol
22:15.30Clyphoxhmm
22:16.02dummyhmm
22:17.51dummyClyphox: http://www.securiteam.com/exploits/5CP0Q0U9FY.html
22:18.31ClyphoxI got it already.. thanks..
22:18.38dummyk np
22:18.48Clyphoxused someones bot..
22:19.09Clyphox(being the 3L337 hax0r that I obviously am)
22:19.36dummyk.
22:36.44dpashnight all
22:36.48dpashgoing to watch TV
22:37.00JensonSleep time
22:37.02JensonNight all
22:40.06dpashgreat I think someone has used my domain as an outgoing spam address
22:40.22dpashfortunately it isn't a localpart I use
22:40.37dpashonly one bounce, but I'll see what it is like in the morning
22:40.40dpashnight all
22:41.01Leedsfun...
22:41.03Leedsg'night
22:53.33Leedsibot change 25000 usd to gbp
22:54.05murbibot change 4000 euros to gbp
22:54.21Leedsibot change 4000 eur to gbp
22:55.01Leedsso the question is... would you spend 3 minutes with mouthfuls of live cockroaches for $25,000?
22:55.03murbso i'm paid less then tehcnial managler in luxembourg.
22:55.07murbI'll have to complain.
22:57.38Leedsalternatively, would you eat a live cockroach for $1000?
22:58.04ClyphoxI would eat many
22:59.03LeedsI wouldn't
23:00.14ClyphoxDamn.. whats wrong with 'em?
23:00.28ClyphoxI used to catch flying ants and eat them..
23:00.35ClyphoxAfrica is cool..
23:01.11Leedswell, *highly* non-kosher, for one thing...
23:01.28LeedsI don't think I could eat something which was still moving...
23:01.46murbLeeds: so no jelly?
23:02.21Leedsmoving under its own power :-)
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