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06:50.00zacharygood morning
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06:58.05dummyhola
08:49.56zacharyEveryone off for Easter weekend?
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10:17.31dummyibot dance
10:17.31ACTION does a disco dance.
10:38.42Clyphoxhi all
10:39.32dummyibot slap Clyphox
10:39.33dummy: wish i knew
10:39.35dummy:P
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10:59.45zacharyafternoon Leeds.
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11:11.48JDhi all
11:15.36qwertzzhey
11:17.53JDwow someone is awake
11:20.36qwertzzsup
11:21.47JDbored
11:28.31JDnope
11:28.54JDqwertzz: I work for a neighbour
11:29.06JDho hum
11:32.39Leedshey zachary
11:32.52JDhi Leeds
11:32.59JDstill up north?
11:33.15Leedsyeah
11:33.29JDyou have family up there?
11:34.22Leedsyeah
11:34.36Leedson my mum's machine right now :-)
11:35.20JDhence the knoppix :)
11:35.24Leedsargh
11:35.27JDsee debian is that bad :)
11:35.30Leedscan't download pysol... link is bad
11:35.32JDisn't
11:36.53Leedsit's not that good either...
11:37.20Leedsit's okay to visit... but I wouldn't want to live here :-)
11:38.28LeedsHyde Park?
11:38.33JDyeah
11:38.39JDI used to live just behind it
11:38.48Leedswent to school near there
11:38.50JDtrue
11:39.09JDwhich one?
11:39.25LeedsLeeds Grammar
11:39.46Leedsit's not there now...
11:39.55JDisn't that girls school?
11:40.04Leedsmoved to about 5 minutes drive from my parents house, about 18 months after I left...
11:40.17LeedsNah - Leeds Girl's is the girls school - sisters went there
11:45.09JDah next to the uni?
11:45.18JDnow business school
11:45.25JDI know it
11:47.33JDwas an old church on the corner
11:51.17Leedsthat's the one...
11:51.27Leedsold church?  are you sure you don't mean the school chapel?
11:52.02Leedsit's a school with a genuine history... been running for over 450 years...
11:55.31JDLeeds: church like building
11:55.55JDnow Leeds Business School and Innovation Centre
11:56.01Leedsyeah
11:56.25JDI knew some people that worked in the IC
11:57.02JDiirc they knocked down the old school building and put the IC there and gutted the chapel and put lots of glass in it
11:57.39LeedsI didn't think they'd knocked down the building - at least, not much of it
11:58.01JDcertianly the part of it on the road
11:59.40JDon claredon rd
12:00.04Leedsoh, the music/assembly block... that makes sense
12:00.22JD50s-60s looking building
12:00.26JDmaybe 70s
12:00.40JDwasn't particularly nice looking
12:00.52Leedsyeah
12:00.57Leedsthe main building is a lot nicer
12:02.48JDhttp://www.shepherddevelopments.com/innovation_centre.html#
12:04.53Leedssecond picture down, left-hand column... the building in the middle is the end of the old building - the dining room
12:09.55JDI thought you might look at that photo
12:10.21Leeds8 years here :-)
12:10.48JDor :( ?
12:11.06Leedsnah... it was a pretty decent school
12:11.14JDfairy snuff
12:11.40Leedsand the new site is phenominal
12:12.00JDnew school site or the IC ?
12:12.32Leedsnew school
12:12.37JDwhere is it?
12:12.55LeedsAlwoodley... on the right as you leave Leeds on the way to Harrogate...
12:13.03Leedsor to put it another way... just over there :-)
12:13.14JD:)
12:13.45JDthat would be just up near the outer ring rd?
12:13.54Leedsbeyond it
12:13.56JDnear the sainsburys?
12:14.02JDnear adel?
12:14.06Leedsfurther out :-)
12:14.43Leedsif you head up Scott Hall Road... it becomes Harrogate Road...
12:14.52JDno idea
12:15.08Leedsokay... you know the sainsbury's on the ring road...
12:15.14JDyep
12:15.51Leedsassuming you're coming from Headingley... keep going one more junction around the Ring Road and you come to a large roundabout with a BP garage on it
12:16.01JDyep
12:16.06JDnot much furtur on?
12:16.14JDfurther
12:16.20JD100yds?
12:16.23Leedsif you turn left at that roundabout you're on Harrogate Road, facing north
12:16.41JDah right drive past big house?
12:16.57Leedsgo a mile or so north, over a crossroads called Alwoodley Gates... and the school is on the right immediately afterwards
12:19.00Leedsbig house?
12:19.08Leedslots of big houses around here :-)
12:19.22JDnah f-ing big house
12:19.58JDharewood
12:20.09Leedsoh... nowhere near as far as harewood house
12:20.26JDso I see
12:20.32Leedsalthough there is another well-known school in Harewood - Gateways... one sister and two cousins went there
12:22.46Leedshttp://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=430812&y=440489&z=2&sv=430812,440489&st=4&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf
12:24.51Leedsmy parents house is pretty much at the D of Sandmoor Drive... and the new school is where the roundabout is on Harrogate Road north of where it crosses Alwoodley Land and Wigton Lane
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12:37.31Leedswell, it's not so busy here now... mainly in the evening... :-)
12:37.50shai:)
12:38.00shaikinda small place ...
12:38.09Leeds#gllug and #handhelds.org are my two 'home channels'
12:38.27shaioh ..
12:38.35shaido you use MSN ?
12:38.50Leedsnope... it's a Microsoft thing :-)
12:38.56shaiicq ?
12:39.22Leedsjabber, for preference... but I do have icq and aim
12:39.44shaiwould you like to keep in touch ? 7514722
12:40.13shaiyou can always ask me for the weather in Israel before you decide to come by :)
12:40.16shaihehe
12:41.45Leedsgot you...
12:42.08Leedsbut you're not logged in
12:42.26shaisure am .. just went to wash my hands :)
12:43.42Leedsgot you
12:44.39shaiI msged you back ...
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12:45.34shaiSince I don't use IRC 24/7 .. I just logon when I need to ask something about linux .. I'm gonna exit now .. and we can keep in tought via ICQ .. or the next time I visit London Linux User Group :)
12:46.00Leedssure :-)
12:46.15LeedsShabbat Shalom :-)
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15:24.10denivrihi
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15:36.32nasratafternoon all
15:39.46denivrihello
15:39.48denivrinice day.
15:40.07nasratindeed
15:52.48JDhi all
15:52.53nasrathi
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16:25.44JDhi stig
16:25.49skugghi jd
16:26.01skuggah. hi dave :P
16:26.42JDer yeah
16:26.43skuggnot really sure why I joined irc now... I'm about to jump in the bath.
16:26.51JDlol
16:26.53skuggjust been out running
16:26.56JDcos you love us all
16:27.07skuggah, well, that must be it :D
16:27.37skuggguess I've been productive enough today and needed something to slow me down :]
16:27.55JD:)
16:27.59skuggwritten lots of words today. not a single coherent paragraph though.
16:28.03skugg:}
16:28.34skuggi'll take on the role as editor later on to make some sense out of it
16:28.43skuggoh well. my bath is running full...
16:28.44JDwhat for?
16:28.48JDbye
16:28.54skuggfor my report :P
16:29.00skuggI'd like to pass
16:29.01JD?
16:29.07JDwhat report?
16:29.07skuggbye
16:29.14skugg3rd year project
16:29.21JDah okay
16:29.27skuggbye for now...
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17:01.12JDhi greg
17:13.58*** join/#gllug Jenson (1000@dial81-131-30-237.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
17:14.11Jensonhey JD
17:15.12gj_hey
17:16.16zacharyevening all
17:16.22Jensonhi zachary
17:16.36JDhi all
17:21.02zacharybbl, need to fix dinner.
17:22.13Jensonheh
17:38.03Clyphoxgrr
17:38.13Jensonhey Clyphox
17:38.21ClyphoxHiya Jenson
17:38.35JensonClyphox: Why you got your phone off in the middle of the afternoon...or do I not wanna know?
17:38.43JDhi Clyphox
17:39.07ClyphoxJenson: turned it off last night and havn't turned it on yet.
17:39.42Clyphoxre JD
17:39.50Jensonprobably best,i was a bit drunk anyway earlier
17:40.00Clyphoxhehe
17:43.34JDnot as drunk as I was last night
17:45.36JensonDoes anyone know a weird meaning for the word snail....my mother wanna know for a quiz
17:46.00Jensonand does anyone know an English word that starts and ends with a vowel, with all the vowels in order in it
17:48.41JDadventitious
17:48.49JDoh
17:50.19JDthere isn;t one in /usr/share/dict/words
17:50.35JDwhat is the clue for snail?
17:51.41skuggJenson, if you need *all* the vowels, I cannot help you. However, "ideou" starts and ends in a vowel, and they are in order. It's just missing out `o' :)
17:51.58JDI think you mean a
17:52.06skuggof course.
17:52.36skuggit was "adieu" -- they're not in order either.
17:52.39skuggdamn.
17:52.56skuggI should learn the alphabet ;)
17:53.01JDprobably
17:53.22JDthere is sequioa which is the shortest word with all the vowels in
17:53.45Jensonand facetious
17:53.57Jensonwhich is the usual answer, but this year theyve changed the question
17:55.10skuggultracentrifuge
17:55.10skuggunaffectionate
17:55.13skugg:)
17:55.39skuggdamn, missing out o...
17:55.49skuggor u :)
17:56.57JDskugg: I've grepped /usr/share/dict/words
17:57.06JDI know there are more words that that
17:57.09skuggJD, what do you think I've don?
17:57.31JDrepeating what I've done?
17:57.35JD:)
17:58.23skuggno. I was at it at the same time, so you might as well say you was repeating what I did. I thought maybe I found a loophole you didn,t think of though.
17:58.35skuggbut I didn't.
17:58.37skugg:(
17:59.37JD^[aeiou].*a.*e.*i.*o.*u.*[aeiou]$
17:59.43skuggmmm... by the way, this chinese is brilliant.
18:00.24JDgimme gimme
18:00.44skuggyeah. that's pretty close to what I have. though if yours starts with an a, you have to have to a's.
18:00.50skuggsimilar with u.
18:01.30skuggapart from that, yours is shorter and neater.
18:03.41skuggarwen:~% grep -i "\<[aeiou]\?.*a.*e.*i.*o.*u.*[aeiou]\?\>" /usr/share/dict/words
18:03.41skuggabstemiously
18:03.41skuggadventitious
18:03.41skuggadventitiously
18:03.41skuggadventitiousness
18:03.43skuggfacetious
18:03.45skuggfacetiously
18:03.48skuggfacetiousness
18:03.50skuggsacrilegious
18:03.53skuggsacrilegiously
18:03.59skuggfuck! :(
18:04.30skuggokay, this _should_ work: grep -i "\<[aeiou]\?.*a.*e.*i.*o.*u\?.*[aeiou]\>" /usr/share/dict/words
18:04.39skuggaffectionate
18:04.41skugg:)
18:05.01skuggso, jd, you were *wrong*! nah nah nah! :D
18:05.03Jensonewwww.my parents have been bleeding on thwe quiz sheet lol
18:05.24skuggeww :)
18:05.43skugguh, affectionate doesn't have a u. I should stop now and go to bed.
18:05.47skuggi eat my words jd.
18:06.28JDskugg: I think you should :)
18:07.53skuggI blame it on all the fresh air.
18:07.59JensonRight next question
18:08.14JensonWhich famous film star was origanally known as Mortimer?
18:08.24skuggjd, but your regexp was still a bit restrictive :P
18:08.59JDwell it needed to start and end in a vowel
18:09.06JDshe didn;t say if they could be repeased
18:09.09JD:)
18:09.47skuggtrue
18:12.16JDnot one of the blokes out of trading places?
18:12.22JDhow many letters etc
18:14.22JDDon Ameche?
18:15.50JDhttp://us.imdb.com/Nsearch?name=mortimer%26occupation=actors
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18:39.19Jensonhi cozmonort
18:39.35cozmonorthi jenson
18:39.42Jensonhow are you?
18:39.54cozmonortok urself
18:40.04Jensonfine ty
18:40.15Jensonyou here to chat, or wanna ask something?
18:40.20cozmonortbtw im the guy who came with alex last gllug
18:40.38Jensonwhat like last week?
18:40.45cozmonortyep
18:40.48Jensondamn
18:40.49Jensoni dont remember
18:40.56cozmonortdamn ?
18:41.08JDprobably too drunk
18:41.08cozmonortahh
18:41.08Jensonwere you at the pub?
18:41.08JensonJD: fuck off :P
18:41.08cozmonortyep :)
18:41.14JDJenson: he was the cute one
18:41.15JD:)
18:41.17JensonJD: they all were
18:41.44Jensoncozmonort: The one who shook hands with everyone near the beginning? Whats your name?
18:42.16cozmonortionly those that i spoke 2
18:42.23Jensonibot bitchslap JD
18:42.25ACTION beats the sh*t out of JD
18:42.25cozmonortbtw real name Costa
18:42.42cozmonortibot lart cozmonort
18:42.51cozmonorteww
18:42.57JensonAT the pub, when we first got there, were you sat around the table with Alex and that?
18:42.58JDwhy do I get bitchslapped?
18:43.09JensonJD: Coz you'd enjoy it if i did it
18:43.11Jenson:P
18:43.15JDoh yeah
18:43.33cozmonort:P
18:44.29Jensonibot Microsoft
18:44.30[microsoft] evil!, or micro-WHAT? | <action> shoots himself
18:44.58Jensonibot kill JD
18:45.04ACTION slits JD's throat
18:45.04JDdammit Jenson
18:45.08cozmonortgot to go get help with pc probs, speak 2 u later
18:45.11Jensonevil bot
18:45.15cozmonorthehe
18:45.16Jensonsee ya cozmonort
18:45.17JDwhy you so violent ? :)
18:45.26JensonJD: was thr bot not me
18:45.32Jensonibot kill Jenson
18:45.45ACTION slits Jenson's throat
18:46.01Jensonibot kill ibot
18:46.02ACTION slits ibot's throat
18:46.02JDJenson: you prevoked it :)
18:46.02SPQROk, I'm here with Costa
18:46.20JensonSPQR: And who are you?
18:46.27SPQRA4266 :D
18:46.34Jensonoh ffs Alex
18:46.55SPQRWe need help getting his graphics going
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18:47.10SPQRlol. Ya, I'm also know as that :D
18:47.10Jensonhi armijn honey
18:47.16armijngood afternoon...
18:47.21SPQRhey armijn
18:47.26JensonAl, I can be helpful...or at least graphic
18:47.34Jensonarmijn: What you doing today?
18:47.57armijnjenson: recovering from playing Linux helldesk for three days at a tradeshow in Amsterdam
18:47.58SPQR:)
18:48.10Jensonarmijn: oooh, fun and not fun :)
18:48.19armijnyeah, well...
18:48.44armijntradeshows are...well...pretty much fake
18:48.49SPQRHe's got a Hercules 3d Prophet II T1 video card... Dunno how to get the drivers installed :/
18:48.56armijnI've never seen so many beautiful women within an arm's reach of a computer
18:49.03JensonFor those of you who don't know...armijn is Dan's friend....who writes for UK Linux Magazine
18:49.04JDput the CD in the drive and it should autorun
18:49.15armijnjenson: *dutch* linux mag
18:49.23Jensonarmijn: And UK dont you?
18:49.33armijnjenson: I just contributed a few small pieces to the UK one a few times
18:49.40Jenson:)
18:49.47SPQRumm... thats windows... We need to get it going under slack
18:50.02JensonSPQR: You need to ask Leeds or Dan then
18:50.05JDyou know heike then
18:50.23armijneveryone knows heike...
18:50.28Jensonheh
18:50.35JDbut I meant you work with her
18:50.49armijnJD: nah, my contact is someone else at the magazine :)
18:50.49JDalthough not in the same place
18:50.55JDoh
18:51.05JDhow long you worked there?
18:51.09armijnJD: I just contributed some small things for the world news...
18:51.30JensonHeike was at gllug last week, first person I saw when I arrived, sitting on the steps having a cigarette
18:51.47JensonJD: He's in this months, I looked when I was in WHSmith
18:51.49JDthat is cos you were late
18:52.19JensonJD: Thats coz we had to go back to zimms to get new2unix's rollerblades...and then cot distracted by his Mp3 collection
18:52.21armijnJD: feb and march issue
18:53.11Jensonzimm should be online later BTW...might not be though, he's gone to a mates, then he's meant to be going to the netcafe
18:53.15armijnit's a bit quiet here today...
18:53.21JensonHe'll have his ADSL in about 2 weeks
18:53.25Jensonarmijn: Yeh I know
18:53.37armijnis it a holiday today in the UK?
18:53.41Jensonyeh
18:53.43JDyeah
18:53.46armijnah, ok
18:54.03JensonJD: Ah, but hilidays
18:54.05Jensonholi
18:54.25Jensonarmijn: Do you have Easter in .nl?
18:54.34armijnsure
18:54.50JensonAl and Costa....why not just put both your names?
18:54.56JDneither of which I like
18:55.09JDs/like/believ in/
18:55.11cozmonortonly 1 keyboard :P
18:55.17JDcelebrate
18:55.29JensonWell tell Alex *hugs* :D
18:55.43cozmonorthug back
18:55.43armijnI haven't seen dankolb online today...
18:55.56JDibot: seen dankolb
18:55.57dankolb is currently on #gllug (14h 14m 8s)
18:56.17JensonHe was walking the dog a little while ago
18:56.17cozmonortoh well
18:56.20Jensonhe texted me
18:56.38cozmonortahh
18:56.44armijnyeah, weather is way too nice to be online
18:56.47armijnat least, here it is :)
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18:57.10JDhi pete
18:57.11Jensonhe's not answering his bloody phone. was gonna tell him to get online
18:57.13Jensonevening pete
18:57.25pdrhi JD, Jenson
18:57.27cozmonortyeah, quite fun using text base browser though im starting to get urgges for graphics and pritty colours
18:57.28armijnjenson: nah, not necessary, got loads of stuff to do
18:57.28JDit is a bit cold now :(
18:57.34pdrcold?
18:58.04cozmonortim wearing a jumper :P
18:58.19cozmonortwindows still open though
18:58.31cozmonortand i dont mean microsolft :P
18:58.35pdrbbiat...
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18:59.37pdrblum
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19:00.04Jensonhey formi
19:00.04pdroi formi
19:00.08JensonBRB
19:00.14pdrre Jenson
19:00.43armijnI'm not cold, I'm just fat :)
19:00.44pdrtudo bem formi?
19:01.14formimais ou menos
19:01.18JDpdr: new domain? or old?
19:01.36JDdifferent hostmask
19:01.42pdr?
19:01.44pdrsame domain
19:01.49JDpewter is missing?
19:01.57pdrsame IP
19:02.02pdrRRDNS
19:02.10JDoh
19:02.32pdrarmijn: uu is univerty of utrecht?
19:02.41armijnpdr: utrecht university yeah
19:02.45cozmonortNeed help with Hercules 3d Prophet II T1 video card, can anyone help ?
19:02.59Jensonback
19:03.13armijnanyone experience with VMWare 4 Workstation?
19:03.19pdrformi: o que e?
19:03.21Jensoncozmonort: you need to ask Leeds or dankolb, I think us 3 are the only Slack users
19:03.36Jensonarmijn: Again, need to ask Leeds methinks
19:03.55cozmonort+ Clyphox
19:04.01armijnheh, leeds knows everything...
19:04.01cozmonortthx
19:04.06Jensonyeh he does
19:04.07armijnhe sent me Solaris 9/x86
19:04.11JensonAsk Clyphox then
19:04.19JensonCall him and ask him
19:04.21armijnfor building and testing Samba
19:04.21JDnight all
19:04.30pdrthat was nice of him
19:04.34pdrnight JD
19:04.35Jensoncya JD, you not gonna BBL?
19:04.37cozmonortwould do but his not online :(
19:04.38pdrstay off the turps mate
19:04.41JDno idea
19:05.02JDI'll stay away from any beer you recommend
19:05.07pdrlol
19:05.17Jensoncozmonort: And his phones still off so I cant tell him to get his arse online lol
19:05.17cozmonortmmm beer
19:05.27cozmonortarg
19:05.34formipdr: o meu estado mental
19:05.51JensonAnyway, I better get going, dinner almost ready
19:05.55JensonSeeya later guys
19:06.03cozmonortbbl, gotta go eat
19:06.05formipdr: fun onte pola noite a camden, hai un lugar moi interesante
19:06.20Jensoncya cozmonort
19:06.41pdrformi: moi?
19:06.48Jensoncyall
19:07.07pdrlater Jenson
19:07.28formimoi!
19:07.39formimoi = muito
19:07.57pdrah
19:08.23pdryou went there again recently?
19:08.33forminope
19:08.34armijnhoney dew?
19:08.54pdrarmijn: it's an english beer
19:08.58formithe new place is way better, wi
19:09.07armijnpdr: I know it...it's quite nice actually :)
19:09.17pdrindeed
19:09.54pdrformi: onde e?
19:09.59formithey sell mushroom deligight
19:10.16pdris this that purple place?
19:10.22formithey sell mushroom delight, which is supposed to be
19:10.34formiit's inside camden lock
19:11.16pdrentao mais perto de vostede
19:11.48formihttp://www.camdenlock.net/camdenlock/marketmap/clmapgf.html
19:12.00formiunit 22 i think i remenber
19:14.18pdrthere is no 22
19:15.15pdrarmijn: why the interest in #gllug?
19:15.25formii know, i think the map might be too new on too old
19:16.25armijnpdr: heh, why not?
19:16.35pdr:-)
19:18.03armijnpdr: I know a few people here, so...and the other channels I'm on were all quiet
19:18.26pdrthis channel's usually pretty quiet too.  who do you know here?
19:18.35formihttp://www.camdenlock.net/stables/stlist.html
19:18.59formiit's the same building as n 23
19:19.00armijnpdr: well, I know a few mappings for names to faces...
19:19.49pdrformi: ah ok - i like those markets.  didn't realise there was a pub there.
19:20.03pdrarmijn: :-)  we have a page with photos somewhere too
19:20.25armijnpdr: nah, I met a few of them in the UK, and a few others in Brussels
19:20.52formiit's more like a indian-hippy-groovy bar, with library - books about meditation, eastern culture...
19:22.24pdrarmijn: http://www.gllug.org.uk/ircphoto.html
19:22.43pdrarmijn: at fosdem?
19:23.33pdrformi: sounds interesting
19:24.22formipdr: http://www.farodevigo.es/humor/QUESADA.JPG
19:25.01armijnpdr: ah, you're the australian dude
19:26.00formiarmijn: what were you expecting?
19:26.23armijnformi: dunno
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19:27.39pdrarmijn: yep.  did we meet then?
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19:28.15armijnpdr: heh, yeah, we talked for a few hours during dinner then, with Bram Moolenaar and a friend of mine :)
19:28.28pdroh yeah, i remember now
19:28.52pdryou're an organiser for the nluug thing?
19:28.56armijnpdr: Bram and I were handing out NLUUG CfP
19:29.12armijnpdr: ehr, not for this NLUUG thing
19:29.19pdrarmijn: yep, looks like i'm talking at it
19:29.43armijnpdr: I know...my brother is giving a talk at the same time you're giving one...
19:29.59pdrarmijn: funny - what is his on?
19:30.07armijnpdr: wiki
19:30.12Jensonarmijn: how old is your brother?
19:30.15pdrcool
19:31.28Jensonpdr: Dont I get to snuggle with you :D
19:31.33armijnjenson: way old :)
19:31.46pdrJenson: if you like
19:31.58Jenson:) cool pdr
19:32.07Davilionhello all
19:32.13pdrhey Davilion
19:32.17Jensonhey Davilion
19:32.36armijnpdr: the conference dinner is pretty good btw
19:32.45Davilionnluug?
19:32.52pdrarmijn: so i'm told
19:32.57armijndavilion: nluug.
19:33.03pdrDavilion: netherlands unix user's group
19:33.14Davilionahh ok
19:33.15pdror users' perhaps
19:33.18Jensonlol
19:33.21Jensonnah user's
19:33.24pdrbah
19:33.27Jensonmeh
19:33.29armijnusers'
19:33.38Jensonnah user's just the one
19:33.50pdror the equivalent in dutch probably?
19:33.57armijnwell, there's not just on dutch unix user...
19:34.07armijnpdr: no, it's an english abbrev
19:34.41pdractually, the honey dew i had with a mate that is passing through london after coming over from hilversum today
19:34.44JensonI would translate it....but I get stuck at Nederlands
19:36.07pdrJenson: it's probablly safe to assume "Unix" is the same in Dutch too :-)
19:36.31Jensonja
19:36.32Jensonlol
19:37.46armijnhoney dew...
19:38.04pdrtetley's make it iirc
19:39.47armijnpdr: but did you really have to send in that hippie picture of you? :)
19:39.53Davilionmy backs sore
19:40.19pdrarmijn: hehe it's the only decent photo i could find!
19:40.48JensonDavilion: awwww....why?
19:40.53pdrarmijn: i looked though all my photos, and in almost all of them, i'm sticking my tongue out or i'm unshaven or something.
19:41.28Jensonpdr: Is that your normal state then?
19:41.57armijnhttp://www.nluug.nl/events/vj03/abstracts/ab.html?id=55
19:42.06pdrwhen a camera is pointing at me, it seems my natural reaction is to poke out my tongue - no idea why
19:44.04DavilionJenson: not sure, too much driving
19:44.09Davilionand i think i spent too much time lifting thing stoday
19:46.14cozmonorthi people
19:46.46cozmonortanyone here ?
19:46.54Jensonheya
19:47.04cozmonorthe jenson
19:47.09cozmonort*hi
19:47.14JensonIs that Costa or Al?
19:47.19cozmonortCoz
19:47.23Jensoncool
19:47.34cozmonortAl is playing extreme g
19:47.45cozmonort(Gamecube)
19:47.52JensonTell Al I said he's sexy......tell him I aint drunk either
19:48.25cozmonorthe started muttering he doesnt know what 2 say
19:48.27armijnjenson: not even drunk today?
19:48.51Jensonarmijn: I was earlier...not now
19:49.09armijnjenson: cider again?
19:49.16Jensonarmijn: vodka
19:49.24armijnurf
19:49.37cozmonorthow long ago was that !!
19:49.54armijnI remember that I said "I'm not drunk" and people couldn't understand me because I was talking gibberish :)
19:50.00armijnno wait, they told me later...
19:50.05Jensonand its the last time i drink around a certian friend of mine who begs me for sex
19:50.24cozmonort[speechless]
19:50.33armijnlalalalalalalalala!
19:51.00Jensonarmijn: my mother used to do that when szhe didnt wanna hear the horse rqacing resulys
19:51.09cozmonorti want to get drunk :..(
19:51.17Jensoncozmonort: Come down here then :P
19:51.34cozmonortwhere ?
19:51.39cozmonort:P
19:51.45Jensoncozmonort: near colchester :( not near you
19:51.56cozmonort:(
19:52.21JensonAnyway, I better go, gotta meet my mate at 9:15...see if there is any room in the pubs
19:52.21cozmonortah well suppose I could get drunk round here instead
19:52.41cozmonortlol could luck [have fun]
19:52.56armijnI don't have friends that beg me for sex...
19:53.03armijnfortunately not...
19:53.10armijnthey're all ugly :)
19:53.18Jensonarmijn: I have 1...well 2...but the other one has buggered off to Guilford thank fuck
19:53.42pdrmy friend today was saying you have to be a hero to pull in nl.  is that about right?
19:54.00JensonThe women in England are easy....
19:54.06armijnpdr: ehr, in what sense?
19:54.08pdrJenson: true
19:54.22JensonAnyway gotta go
19:54.23pdrarmijn: is it difficult to pick up women in nl?
19:54.24JensonBBL
19:54.27pdrlater
19:54.32cozmonortbye
19:54.33Jensonpdr: Not in Amsterdam :P
19:54.44Jensoncyaaaaaaa
19:54.46armijnyeah well, Amsterdam...
19:54.50cozmonortlol want 2 go sometime with some mates
19:54.53pdrJenson: i'm not talking about the ones you pay
19:54.57armijnthat's usually british tourists...
19:55.06cozmonortlol
19:55.50armijnpdr: yeah, well...I think it's pretty hard
19:55.52formipdr: you have ALL women
19:56.01cozmonortNeed help with Hercules 3d Prophet II T1 video card, can anyone help ?
19:56.02pdrformi: you heard?
19:56.03formipdr: you have to pay ALL women
19:56.08cozmonortusing slack
19:56.32formitaking them out, valentines shit.....
19:56.37armijncozmonort: google?
19:56.49cozmonorttried not very helpfull
19:56.57formithere is no such thing as a de valde woman
19:57.14pdrformi: some are cheaper than others
19:57.16cozmonortalso checked the hercules site, no linux drivers
19:57.34armijncozmonort: grepped kernel sources? :)
19:57.59armijnI should try australia...it is said they love the dutch accent over there
19:58.26cozmonortno, how do i do that ?
19:58.41pdri think australians would like dutch, yes, but probably not just for the accent
19:59.01armijnpdr: because so many dutch people moved to australia in the 1950s and 1960s?
19:59.10pdrdutch are very good guests, unlike the english who are hooligans outside their country
19:59.20armijncozmonort: ah, you do have the kernel sources ready?
19:59.32formipdr: are inside!
19:59.52cozmonortim a noob
20:00.06pdrformi: true, but you should see how they act in Sydney for example
20:00.30pdrformi: i think there's even a tv show about how bad they act
20:01.47formipdr: you have crocs down there, feed them!!
20:02.02cozmonortlol
20:02.04pdrarmijn: i didn't know that there was that many dutch decendents in australia, but i think australians would like the dutch because you always seem very respectful and such.
20:02.30armijnpdr: go to Salou in summer, observer and then dare to say that again :)
20:02.31pdrformi: nowhere near sydney unfortunately
20:02.38formipdr: you mean they are boring people?
20:02.41pdrarmijn: hehe ok
20:03.04pdrarmijn: and you have better beer than us too
20:03.14armijnthe difference between the dutch and english during summer in spain is that the dutch use sunblock
20:03.15pdrformi: not at all
20:03.23formigermars in the balearic island are good as well
20:03.38cozmonortthen the term redneck comes into play !!
20:04.03formicozmonort: s/redneck/redarse
20:04.09cozmonortlol
20:05.24cozmonortim going to ibiza in may :)
20:05.44armijncozmonort: I saw a movie about Ibiza once...
20:05.51armijncalled "Kevin and Perry go large"
20:06.01cozmonortgood film
20:06.12armijnand if you're any like them, you're pretty pathetic ;-)
20:06.20armijns/any/anything/
20:06.45cozmonortyeah but im not so ther :P
20:07.14armijno/~ all I wanna do is do it o/~
20:07.56cozmonortbesides im not going to get laid im going to get drunk ;-)
20:08.31cozmonortand if i do im not going to complain
20:08.47armijngetting drunk...now, that does sound like a good thing to do with your money
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20:09.06armijnwork all year, earn money, go to Ibiza, spend all the money on bad beer
20:09.18armijnsounds like my ideal vacation...
20:09.24cozmonortnot all just most
20:09.26armijn</sarcasm>
20:11.12cozmonortanyway what r u doing for ur holiday
20:11.29armijnI'm saving money for a trip to australia...
20:11.36armijna friend of mine lives there in some surfer paradise
20:11.48pdrgah!
20:11.57cozmonortim going thailand in November, my bros getting married there
20:12.02pdrnever have been
20:12.25pdr(hmm.. singular surfer again..)
20:12.58pdri've heard thailand is very nice - i've only ever hanged out in the airports there before
20:13.17armijnpdr: well, and travel around a bit in NSW and Victoria
20:13.28cozmonorthi Clyphox, [alex says hi as well]
20:13.30pdrQueensland is nice too
20:13.35pdrNoosa especially
20:14.05Clyphoxheya AL
20:14.10pdrhey Clyphox
20:14.12Clyphoxcozmonort: wa 'gwan?
20:14.24cozmonortmy mum when't to Australia 4 a year
20:14.25ClyphoxHiya peter.. all good?
20:14.44Clyphoxcozmonort: I beleive it was New Zealand actually
20:14.49cozmonortyeah im cool, graphics card probs though
20:14.53cozmonortu
20:15.10pdrClyphox: yeah, all good - how's scotland?
20:15.19Clyphoxpdr: warm..
20:15.29cozmonortreally
20:15.38armijnNoosa isn't on my map
20:15.52Clyphoxpdr: still need to get off my arse and get a job.. working on my new network/servers :-)
20:15.56Clyphoxcozmonort: da
20:15.57pdrarmijn: sunshine coast?  north of brissie
20:16.14pdrarmijn: noosa heads, noosaville
20:16.22armijnpdr: it isn't that detailed...
20:16.28pdrok
20:16.50armijnheh...scotland...will have to go there in august for UKUUG conference
20:16.56pdrClyphox: :-)  might be an idea to find work first..
20:17.39pdrarmijn: yeah, that should be fun
20:17.47cozmonortClyphox: what connection u using ?
20:17.51Clyphoxpdr: Gonna go walkies on Monday.. emails this weekend
20:18.17Clyphoxcozmonort: F2S :-) DSL all too my selfish self
20:18.33pdrClyphox: I have a mate in Aberdeen who may know someone looking for people - I'll give her an email
20:18.41cozmonortClyphox: cool
20:18.41armijnpdr: I gotta give a talk there :)
20:18.48pdrarmijn: what on?
20:18.52Clyphoxpdr: that would be great...
20:19.08armijnpdr: buildfarms, I research the topic for my MSc
20:19.10Clyphoxarmijn: cool? who/what/where?
20:19.20ClyphoxSuch fun!
20:19.23Clyphoxfun fun fun
20:19.32pdrarmijn: nice
20:19.34armijnclyphox: ukuug, august, edinburgh, see www.ukuug.org
20:19.43Clyphoxomw
20:21.11Clyphoxit far away enough for me to possibly afford to go even!
20:21.29pdrhuh?
20:21.45Clyphoxtimewise
20:21.55armijnclyphox: I know I'm not a native speaker, but you don't have to use babytalk ;-)
20:22.15pdrClyphox: don't you mean close enough?
20:22.50cozmonortClyphox:plz help ive got a Hercules 3D Prophet II T1 card where can I get drivers 4 it and how do I install them
20:23.01ClyphoxI mean I might even have some money by then to afford to go..
20:23.17Clyphoxcozmonort: linux?
20:23.19pdraah, no i understand
20:23.25cozmonortyep
20:23.26pdr^no^now
20:23.34cozmonortusing lynx right now
20:24.00armijncozmonort: what's the chipset?
20:24.15armijncozmonort: NVidia?
20:24.29cozmonortHercules
20:24.49pdrbbiat
20:25.29cozmonorttried there website and that was useless
20:25.54cozmonortalso tried Google no good ether
20:25.58Clyphoxcozmonort: lspci?
20:26.12cozmonortagp
20:26.55armijncozmonort: hercules doesn't do their own chips (at least, I don't think so). the newer ones are Radeon chips
20:27.13cozmonortthis is a gforce card
20:27.27armijnaah
20:27.30Clyphoxjust use the nvidia drivers then..
20:28.25cozmonortok if i have any probs installing i'll be back thx
20:34.20armijnmy inner-geek tells me I need to drink some green tea...
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20:38.59A4266evenin'
20:48.07armijno/~ long live rock'n'roll o/~
20:48.17A4266lol
20:48.41armijnRainbow rocks.
20:48.53A4266wo? I don't know them.
20:48.57A4266*who
20:49.50armijnsome hardrockdinosaurs
20:49.55A4266heh
20:50.10armijnDeep Purple off-shoot
20:50.34A4266ahh, ok, I know who they were
20:51.15armijnA4266: you make me feel old...
20:52.12A4266lol
20:52.42A4266sorry if i do :)
20:52.58A4266I feel kinda old at times as well :/
20:53.50armijngiven the fact I'm nearly 25...
20:54.04A4266lol, that kinda makes us equeal in age!!
20:54.25armijnbut I'm really retro
20:54.43A4266ahh, that explains the taste in music :)
20:55.24armijnanything better than Liberty-X
20:55.28A4266my bro is also retro when it comes to most music. thats why I know abit when it comes to the oldies
20:55.31armijnor whatever they're called...
20:55.40A4266lol
20:55.55A4266I don't like them either!!
20:56.48A4266I think they're an R&B group??
20:57.08A4266'bout as interesting as watching paint dry...
20:57.42armijnR&B? rythm and blues? like old 40s/50s/60s stuff? that influenced Led Zeppelin and the likes?
20:57.53armijnor the soul like stuff they call R&B these days?
20:57.59A4266I like most;y heavy metal myself, but not the stuff the yanks do
20:58.14A4266yup, the modern day version of r&b
20:58.23armijnA4266: what yank stuff?
20:58.50A4266linkin park, papa roach. that sorta yank stuff
20:58.58armijnis that metal?
20:59.08armijnit's rap music
20:59.18A4266dunno, don't care, don't like it
20:59.29armijnand pretty bad rap music as well
20:59.33A4266yup
20:59.47A4266I kinda prefer my techno as well.
20:59.56armijnbut, next monday it's all old 80s metal for me
21:00.05A4266heh. Why so?
21:00.53dankolbHi mijn, A4266
21:00.55armijnNo Mercy festival...
21:00.57armijnhi dankolb
21:01.13A4266ohh, coo l:)
21:01.33armijnA4266: thrash metal, black metal, metalcore
21:01.43A4266ahh. Good stu ff some of that :)
21:02.05armijnA4266: duh, Pro Pain, Testament, Nuclear Assault...they're all good :)
21:02.37A4266lol
21:02.38armijndunno if they'll come to the UK though
21:02.49A4266I gotta go dude  :)
21:02.55A4266cya later
21:02.59armijncu
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21:09.33dankolbHi cupis
21:09.43cupishi dan
21:12.09Clyphoxhi dan
21:12.49ClyphoxA4266: Were you able to dig up anything on the warranty for that HDD?
21:13.07ClyphoxA4266: Need to sort something for Formi..
21:13.36Clyphoxdankolb: no luck with any of my serial ports.. testing my serial port now actually
21:15.45ClyphoxAnyone got a oneliner for my to change permissions recursivly on directories? (all the same perms)
21:15.51Clyphox<- lazy fsck
21:16.01armijnbackground fsck?
21:16.22armijnwhat about "chmod -R <perms>"?
21:16.27armijn(or -r)
21:16.32ClyphoxThat affects files too
21:16.40armijnthen use find first
21:17.23ClyphoxWhen I script it with "if" it don't like spaces on the variables
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21:17.35cupisClyphox: find -tyype -d | xargs chmod foo
21:17.36Clyphoxnot used the xexec thingee on find.. weird..
21:17.37dankolbfind -type d | xargs chmod 777 \{};
21:17.37dankolb?
21:17.58armijnheh, I was about to type something similar :)
21:18.08cozmonorthi
21:18.10dankolbGMTA
21:18.13armijnbut I had to find the right option for find first
21:18.24dankolbAlways read the man page
21:19.31ClyphoxAnyone know any non-bind DNS server that I could try?
21:19.37dankolbdjbdns
21:19.51cozmonortClyphox: I managed to screw my computer up more :( decided im going to leave it till a bit later
21:19.55cupisClyphox: powerdns, maradns
21:20.08Clyphoxcozmonort: want me to do it sometime?
21:20.10armijndjbdns is ok...once you figure out how to exactly configure it...
21:20.39armijnit isn't exactly that helpful with error messages...
21:20.44cozmonortClyphox: i'll answer that if i make it any worse :P
21:20.46Clyphoxcupis: sounds like what I am beink lookink for
21:20.47armijnas in, none...it just refuses to run
21:25.13cozmonortClyphox: quick question how do you delete stuff i want to remove some old install files in a directory from old install and there starting to look messy
21:25.39Clyphoxrm -r ?
21:26.04Clyphox-r = recursive.. carefull campers..
21:26.37cozmonortsorry about ththx
21:26.40cozmonortthx
21:30.51Clyphoxdankolb: xargs don't like the spaces either.. I think the manual is written in Vougonian too
21:31.19dankolbxargs chmod 777 "\{};" ?
21:31.39dankolbOr find -exec chmod 777 "\{};"
21:31.51armijnxargs not with the {}
21:32.09Clyphoxnope
21:32.14dankolbyeah
21:32.20dankolbhrm
21:33.20Clyphoxwhat works for you?
21:33.43armijnfind . -type d -print | xargs chmod 755
21:33.55armijnthe -print is for compatibility with non-GNU versions of find
21:34.12armijnI just tested it, it works
21:34.36Clyphoxdoesn't work for me
21:34.40Clyphoxtypical
21:35.13Clyphoxxargs 4.1
21:35.25Clyphoxfind 4.1 too
21:36.12armijnok, I'll try it on a Linux box then :)
21:36.29Clyphoxarmijn: usin BSD?
21:36.39armijnyeah
21:36.41cozmonortClyphox got the Sun working yet ?
21:36.47dankolbarmijn: uses a proper OS ;-)
21:36.51dankolbs/://
21:37.16Clyphoxcozmonort: it don't pick up DHCP and none of my serial cables like it.. :-(
21:37.23Clyphoxformi lied...
21:37.26cozmonortgaa
21:37.29armijnclyphox works for me on linux as well
21:37.51Clyphoxarmijn: for directories with spaces in their names?
21:37.58armijnehr
21:38.01armijnah.
21:38.06armijngimme a few minutes for that one
21:38.14armijnfirst need to make more tea...
21:38.16Clyphoxcozmonort: Can you make sure that bag get too him at the next meet..
21:38.23Clyphoxarmijn: hehe
21:38.50Clyphoxcozmonort: you need to find out wa'gwan with that HDD cause I owe Formi a 40giger
21:39.18cozmonortClyphox: whos Formi ?
21:39.45Clyphoxcozmonort: Tom knows him.. got the SS5 off him..
21:40.03cozmonortk will write down
21:41.34Clyphoxta
21:41.41cozmonort:)
21:42.37cozmonortfigured out the great thing of different terminals todaay :)
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21:43.51JensonEvening guys
21:44.29cozmonorthi Jenson
21:44.44Jensonheya cozmonort, have you sorted your graphics out?
21:44.45Clyphoxre
21:44.50Jensonheya Clyphox
21:44.57cozmonortworking on it
21:45.08cozmonortthx for asking
21:47.16Clyphoxcozmonort: eh?
21:47.38Jensoncozmonort: yw :D
21:47.50cozmonortwhats yw
21:47.53cozmonort?
21:48.14cozmonortClyphox: just downloaded drivers what now
21:48.37Jensonyw=your welcome
21:48.45cozmonort:P
21:49.38cozmonorti think i woke up today and be Mr Stupid :P
21:50.01Jensoncozmonort: I do that everyday....except I'm Miss Stupid
21:50.03Clyphoxcozmonort: read the whole README thingee
21:50.24cozmonortJenson: lol
21:51.10pdrre
21:51.18Jensonwb pdr
21:51.24pdrty
21:51.27dankolbHi pdr
21:51.40Jensonhey dankolb
21:51.48dankolbWho was looking for me earlier?
21:51.49pdrhey dankolb
21:52.02pdrno ti
21:52.05pdrnot i
21:52.08Jensondankolb: cozmonort wants help with Slackware
21:52.09cozmonortClyphox: tried reading the README files on nvidia and got "Page cannot be found"
21:52.10Clyphoxme maybe... can't rememver
21:52.17Clyphoxwb pdr,dankolb
21:52.34Clyphoxcozmonort: inside the .tar.gz's silly
21:52.42pdrClyphox: ty
21:52.43cozmonortahh
21:52.50dankolbUrgh.
21:52.53dankolbNvidia--
21:53.21cozmonortso i pico it right?
21:53.32Clyphoxare you editing it?
21:53.39pdryay!
21:53.44Clyphoxyou can just read it : less file
21:53.48dankolbvim!
21:53.55pdrview!
21:54.20cozmonortok
21:54.30Clyphoxcat
21:54.37pdrmore
21:54.43pdrzless
21:54.49Clyphoxmcview
21:54.58Clyphoxzoinks
21:55.03pdrzoinks?
21:55.08Clyphoxzoinks
21:55.25pdr:0
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21:55.25Clyphoxfun little editor.. no crappy mail clients included either
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21:55.30pdr}
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21:55.41pdr{
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21:55.51pdrd'oh!
21:55.54pdrsorry guys
21:56.01dankolbibot lart pdr
21:56.02pdrbash: zoinks: command not found
21:56.14pdrthat is what i wanted to paste...
21:56.58dankolbWhen're you giving your presentation to NLUUG?
21:56.58pdrouch!
21:57.17Jensonleave pdr alone, he's a sweety
21:57.28dankolbDrop it
21:57.53JensonDrop what?
21:58.00dankolbThe thwapping
21:58.03pdrdankolb: 22 mei
21:58.16Jensonhehehe
21:58.17pdrthanks Jenson
21:58.18dankolbLooking forward to it?
21:58.24Jensonawww pdr anytime
21:58.26pdryep, should be good
21:58.35dankolbCool
21:58.51dankolbBTW, don't ask armijn for 'really strong beer' unless you're prepared for it :)
21:59.20pdrdankolb: talk to JD about .nl beer suggestions :-)
21:59.22Jensondankolb: Did he get you with srong beer then?
21:59.29dankolbNo. Gengar
21:59.33Jensonheh
21:59.42dankolbpdr: JD's buggered off for now, hasn'ty he?
21:59.42cupispdr: lol
21:59.44Jensonpoor gengar
21:59.50Jensonhe went to the pub Dan i think
21:59.51pdrhi paul
21:59.56dankolbBah
21:59.59Jensonheya cupis
22:00.00cupishi pete
22:00.59cupishi Jenson
22:01.39pdrhey cupis, if i have a package rejected from upload, do i need to re-dupload it?
22:02.03cupispdr: how do you mean rejected? why was it rejected?
22:03.07Clyphoxarmijn: ping
22:03.11armijnheh, I never gave dankolb strong dutch beer
22:03.14pdrcupis: i got a mail back from James Troup with some suggestions
22:03.24armijnjust some not-so-strong belgian beer
22:04.09cupispdr: what was the _reason_? Or do you fancy forwarding the mail to me?
22:04.17pdrcupis: i replied to him with the reasons why i did things the way i have (like not using shilb:depends) and I haven't heard back
22:04.36Jensonheya armijn wb
22:04.42cupisoh, that sort of rejection. Can I see the mail? What package was it?
22:05.00pdrcupis: i'll bounce it to you
22:05.11cupispdr: thanks
22:05.34armijnclyphox: got it, it's a bit of a hack though
22:05.46ClyphoxI like hacks :-)
22:05.53armijnclyphox: find . -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 777
22:06.40armijnor whatever permisisions you got
22:07.07armijnor want
22:07.34armijnhi jenson
22:07.36pdrcupis: i've snet you my reply too - should i just be more patient?
22:07.58pdrlater dan
22:08.01cupispdr: d/l-ing email now...
22:09.01Clyphoxarmijn: Thanks :-)
22:09.07pdrarmijn: why not use "find -exec"?
22:09.12armijnclyphox it worked?
22:09.18Clyphoxda
22:09.20armijnpdr: I think this was easier...
22:09.26pdrk
22:09.33armijnpdr: and directory names with spaces...
22:09.56pdrarmijn: you can quote the {} I guess
22:10.08armijnpdr: could be, never tried it...should research it :)
22:10.14pdr:-)
22:10.20Clyphoxthe man sucks tho
22:10.30pdrClyphox: never!
22:11.13armijnoki, time for bed...
22:11.21pdrlater armijn
22:11.21Jensonsee ya mijny
22:11.36armijntata
22:11.37*** part/#gllug armijn (~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl)
22:11.55pdrJenson: don't you mean mijnij?
22:12.55cupispdr: /query okay?
22:13.04pdrk
22:14.52Jensonpdr: that too, although it would look dumb
22:16.41pdrmyny?
22:31.09pdrurl?
22:31.44Jensonhttp://www.faithsplace.tk
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22:37.32cupis_pdr: re
22:41.00Jensonre cupis
22:47.00Jensontrue
22:47.34Davilion*hug*
22:47.39Jensonawww
22:47.50Davilionedward has collapsed
22:47.52pdrthanks Davilion
22:47.57Davilionneil_ is playing startrek
22:48.33Davilionwhy?
22:48.34pdrsmilies!!
22:49.06JensonDavilion: Because I got so fed up with a guy begging me for sex today that I just did it.
22:49.34Jensoni didnt even wanna see him, but he wouldnt stop calling me
22:50.29pdrJenson: nice to feel wanted at least
22:51.02Jensonpdr: if you say so...I actually feel like a slut, then again, I shouldnt have scrounged money
22:51.51Jensoni mean its not like i'd been flirting with him or anything, he just suddenly started calling me when ive hardly spoken to him since december
22:52.44pdrJenson: hmm.. it sounds like you've set a precedent now.  i'd be willing to bet he now thinks all he has to do for sex is call you until you agree to it
22:53.05Jensonpdr: yeh i know, but it doesnt really matter
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22:53.13Jensonhey formi
22:53.13pdrwhy not?
22:53.17Jensonthey guy is a tosser
22:53.21Jensonand i evidently am a slut
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22:53.40Jensonhey highbury
22:53.51pdrhi formi, highbury
22:53.57highburyHey there
22:53.57Jensonthe thing is pdr most of me doesnt give a shit anymore, i told you im depressed
22:54.53pdrJenson: that certainly doens't sound very healthy.
22:55.08pdrJenson: you live with your parents don't you?
22:55.13Jensonpdr: yeh
22:55.34pdrJenson: what are they like?
22:55.41pdrJenson: are you able to talk to them?
22:56.50Jensonpdr: They're cool most of the time..........i dont talk to them....they're too busy, I dont need people to talk to....my ex-counsellor pissed me off by asking me too many questions about my past relationships, and my mental health nurse pissed me off coz evidently i wanst trying (which i wasnt but fuck it)
22:57.13formiyou talking to me
22:57.27formii should remenber to close down xchat
22:57.47formianyway, good night
22:57.51pdrnight formi
22:57.51Jensoncya formi
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23:00.09Davilionhi Leeds
23:00.12Davilionhow was erm, leeds?
23:00.13Leedshey dav
23:00.40Leedsyou still in Hell?
23:00.54Jensonhey Leeds
23:01.01Davilionno, glasgow now.
23:01.06Leedshey Jenson... how's things down south?
23:02.07JensonLeeds: alright, boring
23:02.38cozmonortClyphox: thx for the help i can now start x, looks a bit crappy though, i now need to fine tune it, also my mouse doesnt work, probably configuredxf86config badly
23:03.56JensonSee ya tomorrow guys
23:04.11Jensoncya Davilion
23:04.17Jensoncya Leeds
23:04.17Jensoncya pdr
23:04.19Leedsnight jenson
23:04.20cozmonortClyphox: thx for the help but my mouse isnt working and x looks a bit crappy, must of configured xf86config badly, anyway cheers for the help
23:04.24Jensoncya cozmonort
23:04.42cozmonortbye
23:04.58Jensoncozmonort: He's gone to bed I think...he told me he was going offline at least
23:05.00dankolbnight Jenson
23:05.09Jensonhey Dan, night Dan
23:05.14cozmonortcheers
23:05.17cozmonort:)
23:05.20Jensonnight all
23:05.24cozmonortnight
23:12.47pdrnight guys
23:14.41Clyphoxcozmonort: the mouse should be type IPMS2
23:14.44Clyphoxer
23:14.47ClyphoxIMPS/2
23:17.46Leedsanyway...
23:17.49Leedsbedtime :-)
23:17.53Clyphoxnn leeds

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