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| 00:47.55 | Leeds | hey Tarragon |
| 00:47.57 | Leeds | what's up? |
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| 08:29.01 | JD | hi all |
| 08:29.13 | JD | very quiet this morning |
| 08:44.01 | JD | bah |
| 08:51.46 | JD | bah again |
| 09:04.59 | eye69 | Baaaaaaa |
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| 09:05.40 | eye69 | Hello zach |
| 09:05.49 | zachary | morning eye69 |
| 09:06.01 | zachary | wb Tarragon |
| 09:08.01 | JD | eye69: ewww |
| 09:08.09 | JD | so people are awake then |
| 09:08.25 | eye69 | Woke up around 6'ish |
| 09:08.38 | JD | so where were you? |
| 09:09.43 | zachary | eye69: How's the study on ipv6 going? |
| 09:09.44 | eye69 | Not here, apparently |
| 09:09.58 | eye69 | zachary: Well...it's workingh :) |
| 09:10.36 | eye69 | zachary: Going to patch my machines with USAGI (patch for making Linux support more of the standard) |
| 09:10.52 | JD | eye69: are you using 2.5.x? |
| 09:11.03 | eye69 | No, 2.4.20 |
| 09:11.13 | JD | aiui it has most of the usagi stuff merged |
| 09:11.20 | JD | including the ipsec stuff :) |
| 09:11.31 | eye69 | I didn't apply USAGI to begin with, since FreeS/WAN didn't work with it...skipping VPN for now anyway |
| 09:11.43 | JD | it is just a shame that I can't compile 2.5.x |
| 09:12.12 | eye69 | JD: What client programs can I use for the ipsec stuff? The USAGI people seem to say that they don't have the progs yet. |
| 09:12.21 | JD | I just hope it is easy to get kame to work with frees/wan |
| 09:12.45 | JD | eye69: people have ported the BSD KAME stuff for the 2.5 userland tools |
| 09:13.05 | eye69 | So using USAGI or 2.5 I could run their tools? |
| 09:13.16 | JD | aiui yeah |
| 09:13.29 | eye69 | Nice |
| 09:13.51 | eye69 | The problems I had with 2.5 were graphics related anyway |
| 09:14.16 | JD | I just couldn't get te bloody thing to compile |
| 09:14.20 | eye69 | Not _really_ a problem on headless servers :) |
| 09:14.41 | eye69 | Use USAGI snapshots on 2.4? |
| 09:14.42 | JD | and now I have the more pressing problem of getting my modem to work on my laptop |
| 09:14.45 | zachary | Are there any proposed timelines for the transition to ipv6? |
| 09:14.55 | JD | eye69: 2.5.x |
| 09:15.01 | JD | zachary: nope |
| 09:15.16 | eye69 | JD: Well, try USAGI snapshots on 2.4.x instead of running 2.5? |
| 09:15.29 | eye69 | zachary: The 6bone 3ffe::/8 will be taken down in june 2006 |
| 09:15.36 | JD | eye69: I want 2.5 :( |
| 09:16.19 | eye69 | zachary: So something must happen before that, I guess. |
| 09:16.41 | JD | yeah cos otherwise ow will people use it |
| 09:17.10 | JD | someone here was saying that their upstream had got an ipv6 allocation form ripe |
| 09:17.13 | eye69 | I mean, they should be able to start switching routers over to IPv6/IPv4 ones, when they're widely available... |
| 09:17.20 | JD | or was it #debian-uk |
| 09:17.34 | JD | they should be available now |
| 09:17.46 | JD | ipv6 has been a standard for a good while |
| 09:18.17 | eye69 | JD: I'm thinking of setting up a small BGP4 testing network at home |
| 09:18.37 | eye69 | Interested in learning the more advanced routing stuff |
| 09:18.56 | eye69 | Shouldn't need more than two machines with double NIC's for a start. |
| 09:19.17 | Clyphox | how does it work? |
| 09:20.12 | eye69 | http://www.bgpbook.com/ |
| 09:20.25 | JD | eye69: you really need an ASN number |
| 09:20.30 | Clyphox | omw |
| 09:20.32 | JD | and they are not really cheap |
| 09:20.56 | eye69 | JD: Not if I just want off-line testing between machines at home |
| 09:21.22 | JD | can you get a private ASN number? like private IP range? |
| 09:21.47 | eye69 | Yeah, I think they're something like between 64500-65500 |
| 09:22.06 | eye69 | I saw it somewhere |
| 09:23.02 | eye69 | He says the feckin URL like 57 times during the advert anyway, so it doesn't really matter |
| 09:23.06 | eye69 | Annoying ad |
| 09:23.22 | JD | bad advert karma ? |
| 09:23.39 | JD | isn't one of the rules of advertsing |
| 09:23.50 | JD | don't stand in front of the logo/name/url |
| 09:25.06 | JD | grrr nothing decent on CNX |
| 09:25.49 | JD | quantum leap :) |
| 09:26.31 | JD | vietnam episode |
| 09:28.50 | JD | not so easy over high latency link :) |
| 09:31.11 | Clyphox | Have any of you guys that e-donkey thing? |
| 09:31.29 | JD | I know someone that did |
| 09:31.38 | Clyphox | I managed to get it going once.. |
| 09:31.52 | Clyphox | Not sure if I should try mldonkey or edonkey2k |
| 09:33.44 | Clyphox | The only shit CD's in my collection are there because I didn't :-) |
| 09:40.27 | eye69 | Clyphox: I used eDonkey |
| 09:40.55 | eye69 | Clyphox: I don't use it anymore though...only use Soulseek |
| 09:41.23 | Clyphox | eye69: yeah.. I still gotta compile python.. doing it now |
| 09:41.28 | JD | XP is telling me to chnage battery :) |
| 09:41.38 | JD | that'll be fun |
| 09:41.47 | eye69 | Clyphox: pysoulseek is really nice :) |
| 09:42.00 | eye69 | Clyphox: Make sure you apply hyriand's patch though |
| 09:42.08 | JD | 20min left |
| 09:43.43 | JD | found it |
| 10:03.45 | JD | anyone still here? |
| 10:06.03 | zachary | just doing some reading. |
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| 10:14.32 | JD | hi highbury |
| 10:14.55 | JD | did you see that Tarragon joined last night |
| 10:15.00 | JD | but didn;t say anything |
| 10:15.03 | Huhn | re |
| 10:15.05 | JD | hi Huhn |
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| 10:15.40 | armijn | *yawn* |
| 10:15.48 | Huhn | hey armijn |
| 10:16.06 | armijn | hi Huhn |
| 10:16.25 | armijn | Huhn: I saw a band yesterday and thought "that is definitely a band for Huhn" |
| 10:16.43 | Huhn | armijn: which band? |
| 10:17.19 | armijn | Dropkick Murphys |
| 10:18.18 | JD | some songs are reasonable |
| 10:18.20 | JD | so are not |
| 10:18.26 | JD | some even |
| 10:18.31 | JD | but very irish |
| 10:18.45 | armijn | exactly, very Irish, that's why I thought "Huhn" |
| 10:19.13 | armijn | Flogging Molly sounded even more Irish from a distance... |
| 10:19.45 | armijn | festivals are tiring though :( |
| 10:19.46 | armijn | shower, brb |
| 10:21.11 | Huhn | ok |
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| 10:22.48 | HuhnINSTALL | see you later |
| 10:22.58 | JD | what you installing |
| 10:23.05 | HuhnINSTALL | dEBIAN |
| 10:23.08 | HuhnINSTALL | sorry, caps |
| 10:23.15 | HuhnINSTALL | laters |
| 10:23.35 | JD | cool |
| 10:31.01 | zachary | morning highbury |
| 10:39.15 | armijn | breakfast...blah |
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| 10:44.25 | highbury | morning |
| 10:49.25 | Clyphox | hi all |
| 10:51.52 | zachary | morning Clyphox |
| 10:52.20 | Clyphox | hiya zachary |
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| 11:01.53 | Jenson | Good morning everyone |
| 11:02.20 | Freedevil | jennny :) |
| 11:03.47 | Jenson | heya...is this a permanant new name from Dummy then? |
| 11:04.04 | Freedevil | yeah y you like dummy better |
| 11:04.55 | Jenson | no, i just wondere |
| 11:04.59 | Jenson | d |
| 11:05.05 | Freedevil | okies |
| 11:15.45 | Jenson | wb Dan |
| 11:16.30 | dankolb | Sh. I'm not here. |
| 11:16.42 | Jenson | heh ok then mate |
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| 11:18.30 | Jenson | hey targz |
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| 11:31.47 | new2unix | <ding><dong>Where is everyone? |
| 11:32.33 | new2unix | Clyphox the twin? How'd? |
| 11:55.00 | zachary | I can't pass up the sunshine, bbl. |
| 11:58.35 | Jenson | lol |
| 11:59.20 | Jenson | Is it actually sunny up North? |
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| 12:10.59 | Clyphox | yeah |
| 12:11.55 | Jenson | dunno what its like here, cant see out of the computer toom, looks bright the other side of the blind though |
| 12:12.02 | Jenson | s/toom/room |
| 12:26.06 | Jenson | BBL |
| 12:45.35 | Clyphox | Huhn !! |
| 12:46.29 | Huhn | hi Clyphox |
| 12:47.20 | Clyphox | Have fun on the BIKE/INSTALL :-) ? |
| 12:47.25 | Huhn | yep :) |
| 12:49.49 | Clyphox | Yay |
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| 12:50.02 | Clyphox | I have been wondering why my songs havn't been sunding right |
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| 14:29.06 | Leeds | morning Freedevil |
| 14:34.39 | Freedevil | sup dude |
| 14:35.19 | Freedevil | did ur fridge arrive? |
| 14:35.37 | Leeds | not 'til Wednesday |
| 14:35.51 | Jenson|Lunch | Leeds: Our freezer arrived this morning |
| 14:35.52 | Leeds | and I need to call the council tomorrow about getting the old one taken away... |
| 14:35.59 | Leeds | Jenson|Lunch: when did you buy it? |
| 14:36.02 | Freedevil | kewl |
| 14:36.04 | Jenson|Lunch | I'll show you a pic of our new fridge and freezer in a while |
| 14:36.35 | Jenson|Lunch | Leeds: Tuesday |
| 14:36.44 | Jenson|Lunch | Anyway BRB, still not got food |
| 14:36.47 | Leeds | so, about the same delivery time :-) |
| 14:39.02 | Leeds | murb: make/connection? |
| 14:42.25 | murb | Leeds: yes, so i can download photos etc / usb |
| 14:42.40 | murb | gphoto2 identifies my camera as somthing generic and then crashes |
| 14:43.38 | Leeds | what make is it? |
| 14:43.59 | murb | it is a canon ixus 400 |
| 14:44.10 | Leeds | I've got an ixus 330... |
| 14:44.18 | murb | (yes i did check before i bought it and the consensus was it should just work(tm)) |
| 14:44.32 | Leeds | never tried to connect it to my Linux box - just put the CF in my iPAQ or my USB CF reader... |
| 14:44.42 | Leeds | are you sure it doesn't appear as a USB storage device? |
| 14:44.46 | murb | oh, i've not bought such toys yet. |
| 14:44.51 | murb | no the canon cameras don't... |
| 14:45.06 | murb | oh and can yuo get firmware updates for cameras/ |
| 14:45.11 | Freedevil | what module you using murb |
| 14:45.13 | Freedevil | uhci? |
| 14:45.15 | Freedevil | or ohci? |
| 14:45.22 | Leeds | I partly picked the Ixus because it was CF... and I already had a bunch of CF hardware and cards... |
| 14:45.33 | Freedevil | you need to mount ur usbdevice |
| 14:45.39 | murb | I like the idea of CF in that it isn't evil and proiety etc |
| 14:45.57 | Leeds | plus it's pretty cheap |
| 14:46.13 | murb | Freedevil: I already have several usb devices that work here including a cdrw and a scanner, so i don't think my usb support is borken |
| 14:46.15 | Freedevil | gphoto2 is betta for cams |
| 14:46.24 | Freedevil | gphoto2 --list-cameras |
| 14:46.32 | murb | gphoto2 -P crashes out |
| 14:46.45 | Freedevil | gphoto2 --auto-detect |
| 14:46.59 | Leeds | murb: can you at least see it on the USB bus if you plug it in? |
| 14:47.01 | Freedevil | think you need gtkam |
| 14:47.08 | Freedevil | too |
| 14:47.15 | murb | Freedevil: same problem as with gphoto2 |
| 14:47.20 | murb | Leeds: yeah |
| 14:47.28 | murb | i can see it, it even talks to the camera and then dies |
| 14:47.49 | murb | as in shes out |
| 14:47.52 | Freedevil | cuz its not supported |
| 14:47.56 | Freedevil | but you can still amke it work |
| 14:47.59 | murb | urgle |
| 14:48.12 | Freedevil | murb: -P wont work |
| 14:48.24 | Freedevil | --list-ports |
| 14:49.02 | Freedevil | mount the device usbdevice it should work |
| 14:49.16 | Freedevil | k that was a repeat hehe |
| 14:49.41 | murb | I can't mount it because it isn't claimed by anything |
| 14:49.52 | Freedevil | yeah you can |
| 14:50.00 | Freedevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:50.04 | murb | i have the usbdev stuff loaded. |
| 14:50.08 | Freedevil | add that to fstab |
| 14:50.19 | Freedevil | mount -t usbdevfs /proc/bus/usb |
| 14:50.20 | Leeds | for what it's worth, the 330 is specified in the gphoto2 source but the 400 isn't |
| 14:50.37 | murb | I already have that, as i mentioned ealier when i said that i already have several other devices that just work on that bus. |
| 14:50.53 | Freedevil | a filename 001 will apapear in the /proc/bus/usb |
| 14:50.59 | murb | which means i've got the kernel autoload weird shit thing loaded which requires that devfs thing so it can find it. |
| 14:51.06 | Freedevil | or 002 |
| 14:51.12 | Freedevil | etc depending on cam mode |
| 14:51.24 | murb | Freedevil: sorry about the tone i'm about to use, you're trying to be helpful etc, but i know about the usbdevfs thing and have looked in the files there. |
| 14:52.14 | Freedevil | k my bad didnt know you tried that |
| 14:53.00 | Freedevil | did you change the permissions? though |
| 14:53.19 | murb | Freedevil: already got that stuff sorted so normal users can scan stuff. |
| 14:53.42 | Freedevil | chmod a+x /proc/bus/usc/00* i think you gotta do everytime you connect it |
| 14:53.48 | Freedevil | wasnt talking about that :) |
| 14:53.56 | murb | usc? |
| 14:54.04 | Jenson | Setting up USB is evil, I never did work out how to setup my usb scanner |
| 14:54.34 | murb | Jenson: i bought an unsuported usb scanner and had it working no probs with the beta driver that isn't included with sane |
| 14:55.03 | murb | it was also from the computerfair, dirt cheap, and i can't tell the difference from the expensive Epson scanner they bought at work. |
| 14:55.24 | Jenson | murb: I got stuck at the how to load sane part lol |
| 14:55.29 | murb | funny how a 30quid device gives as good output as a 150 quid device. |
| 14:56.10 | Jenson | eventually i'll read a howto on it, but on the odd occasions i want the scanner i can just use it in win |
| 14:56.37 | murb | Jenson: i found the windows software to be totally crap compared to the xsane gimp plugin |
| 14:56.38 | Jenson | What I'm annoyed about is that my kernel doesnt seem to include 2 of the scsi modules i need to be able to use the cdburner |
| 14:57.06 | murb | Jenson: build a new kernel/more modules from save source as your orignal kernel and get them working. |
| 14:57.24 | Jenson | according to lsmod the usbcore is used by scanner hid, thats sounds like a good start |
| 14:57.49 | murb | what happens when you run the xscanner detect thing? |
| 14:57.54 | murb | (as root) |
| 14:58.18 | Jenson | dont think i have, as i said, i need to read a howto anhd figure out how to install a scanner |
| 14:59.55 | Jenson | BRB |
| 15:01.32 | Jenson | back |
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| 15:31.17 | resuDaed | any gcc/debian experts in here |
| 15:34.05 | skugg | not expert, but... |
| 15:34.10 | skugg | what's the problem? |
| 15:35.02 | resuDaed | when attempting to configure (prior to a compile), it is dying out because gcc cannot create executables |
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| 15:36.05 | Leeds | resuDaed: details! look in the config(ure).log at what actually failed |
| 15:36.30 | Jenson | larts |
| 15:36.39 | Jenson | Afternoon resuDaed |
| 15:37.13 | resuDaed | afternoon Jenson |
| 15:37.18 | resuDaed | Leeds : what am I looking for? |
| 15:37.51 | Jenson | Leeds: What am I mean to do if XSane says no devices available...is there a reason for that? |
| 15:38.24 | Leeds | Jenson: I have no idea |
| 15:38.27 | skugg | resuDaed, apt-get install binutils or something... it's an x86 thing |
| 15:38.43 | skugg | wait, i'll find the correct name... |
| 15:38.43 | Leeds | resuDaed: look through that logfile for a failure quite near the top |
| 15:38.48 | Jenson | Leeds: How-To it is then |
| 15:39.14 | Leeds | Jenson: I've never used sane... |
| 15:39.32 | Jenson | Leeds: Nor have I, thats ther problem |
| 15:39.46 | Leeds | and neither of us have either *been* sane either... |
| 15:40.29 | Jenson | Leeds: yeh true |
| 15:40.52 | resuDaed | http://resudaed.com/config.log |
| 15:42.39 | Jenson | Evidently the driver for my scanner is a beta driver, probably the one i tried to install the other day and fucked up |
| 15:43.31 | Leeds | "ld terminated with signal 11 [Segmentation fault]" is a very very very bad thing |
| 15:44.04 | resuDaed | that could be caused by? |
| 15:44.27 | resuDaed | proc is fine, ram is fine .... hdd should be |
| 15:45.59 | denivri | Leeds: heh, yeah a *VERY* bad thing normally |
| 15:46.30 | resuDaed | denivri : but what is the most likley cause? |
| 15:46.50 | Jenson | Well the driver i was trying to install the other day isnt for my scanner, so i best look for the one that is, that might help |
| 15:47.09 | skugg | resuDaed, do you have bin86 and binutils installed? that would cause your problem... |
| 15:47.21 | skugg | ( |
| 15:47.27 | skugg | (_not_ having them I mean) |
| 15:48.14 | skugg | i bet a missing bin86 is your culprit |
| 15:48.41 | resuDaed | skugg : binutils is installed, just checking bi86 |
| 15:48.57 | resuDaed | except I am doing an apt-get update atm |
| 15:49.12 | resuDaed | all I am trying to do is buld the winex from cvs |
| 15:49.25 | resuDaed | with openGL enabled |
| 15:50.03 | skugg | resuDaed, i'm 99% sure I'm right, unless you've been building stuff from source successfully before. |
| 15:50.20 | resuDaed | no, bin86 is also installed |
| 15:50.24 | skugg | damn. |
| 15:50.35 | resuDaed | I often build from sourcew |
| 15:50.45 | Leeds | resuDaed: so what have you changed to break it? |
| 15:50.45 | skugg | okay. |
| 15:51.05 | resuDaed | Leeds : nothing, except possibly an update on the version of gcc etc |
| 15:51.30 | resuDaed | I am pretty sure I have done an 'upgrade' since I last compiled |
| 15:51.36 | Jenson | grrr I hate Linux, everytime I try to install something I gte a list of failed dependencies, I want Debian |
| 15:51.50 | Leeds | nothing except an update on gcc? oh, so nothing important then! :-) |
| 15:51.50 | resuDaed | Jenson : stick to stable if you do :-) |
| 15:52.29 | resuDaed | skugg : I think this may have happened before, and the cure was soething to do with exporting something to do with gcc version or something |
| 15:52.51 | Jenson | It wants GLIBC 3.2 evidntly....where am I gonna find that? |
| 15:53.11 | skugg | resuDaed, it's not because winex is updated to the new threading model though? |
| 15:53.29 | resuDaed | Jenson : gnu.org |
| 15:53.35 | Leeds | Jenson: it really doesn't want GLIBC 3.2 |
| 15:53.35 | Jenson | resuDaed: ty |
| 15:53.42 | Jenson | Leeds: It says it does |
| 15:53.48 | Leeds | no, it doesn't |
| 15:53.54 | resuDaed | skugg : I have no idea |
| 15:54.00 | skugg | aw well. I'm off now, can't get any work done while on irc. |
| 15:54.04 | skugg | sorry I couldn't help |
| 15:54.08 | resuDaed | np |
| 15:54.10 | Jenson | Leeds: Actually it says 3.3, cant read my damn fonts lol |
| 15:54.22 | Jenson | libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by sane-backends-1.0.8-5mdk_3300_20030401 |
| 15:54.22 | Jenson | libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by sane-backends-1.0.8-5mdk_3300_20030401 |
| 15:54.22 | Jenson | libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) is needed by sane-backends-1.0.8-5mdk_3300_20030401 |
| 15:54.22 | Jenson | libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by sane-backends-1.0.8-5mdk_3300_20030401 |
| 15:54.22 | Jenson | libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by sane-backends-1.0.8-5mdk_3300_2003040 |
| 15:54.27 | Jenson | nope |
| 15:54.28 | Jenson | says 2 |
| 15:54.29 | Jenson | lol |
| 15:54.34 | Jenson | can read it now |
| 15:54.38 | Jenson | think i better change my fonts |
| 15:54.44 | Leeds | so where does it say 3.3 or 3.2 there? |
| 15:54.55 | Jenson | exaclty |
| 15:54.58 | Leeds | I suggest grabbing the Bitstream Vera fonts |
| 15:55.18 | Jenson | I had good fonts, it just is tiny in KPackage lol |
| 15:55.32 | resuDaed | Jenson : stop using kpackage |
| 15:55.35 | resuDaed | it is evil |
| 15:55.44 | resuDaed | (IMHO) |
| 15:56.04 | Jenson | resuDaed: I forget how to install packages using console though |
| 15:59.06 | Jenson | yay actually found what i want :) |
| 16:02.38 | resuDaed | Jenson tar zxvf (file).tar.gz |
| 16:02.44 | resuDaed | configure, make, make install |
| 16:02.55 | resuDaed | + that way you get far less dependancy problems |
| 16:04.16 | resuDaed | Leeds : I have no idea why, but it works now :-S |
| 16:04.17 | Jenson | resuDaed: yeh i can do that, its rpm thats a pain |
| 16:04.56 | resuDaed | Jenson : if you can, do it |
| 16:05.26 | Jenson | yay nearly downloaded |
| 16:05.32 | Jenson | bet i wont be able to compile it lol |
| 16:07.26 | Jenson | grrr, need to upgrade something else to install it ffs |
| 16:09.51 | Jenson | what the hell is pkg-config and how the hell do i upgrade that? |
| 16:11.21 | resuDaed | Jenson : what distro? |
| 16:11.44 | Jenson | Slack |
| 16:15.36 | resuDaed | just wondered |
| 16:15.54 | resuDaed | so why are you bothering with rpms? |
| 16:16.09 | Jenson | Coz that was what was on the page |
| 16:16.16 | Jenson | I dunno why I'm bothereing at all |
| 16:16.23 | Jenson | Dont use the scanner anyway |
| 16:16.36 | resuDaed | put the cd in, and install all development packages ... and you should be able to compile pretty much anything from source |
| 16:16.40 | resuDaed | (within reason) |
| 16:16.54 | Jenson | I think I've installed everything anyway |
| 16:18.44 | resuDaed | I am currently compiling winex (hopefully it will finish ok) ... I shall then have Quake 3, Unreal Tournament and Half-Life (& OppForce, CS and BlueShift) running under linux |
| 16:19.19 | Jenson | I tried to install the Doom and Wolf3d for Linux, but it didnt work |
| 16:19.45 | resuDaed | having just said that, the compile just died |
| 16:19.45 | Jenson | I have no clue whet I'm doing, everything that works on here (except irssi) works because someone told me how to do it |
| 16:19.57 | Jenson | damn compiling |
| 16:20.10 | resuDaed | is a huge compile though |
| 16:24.13 | Leeds | wine(x) has always been a big compile... it's a pretty heavy layer |
| 16:25.10 | resuDaed | Leeds : and now thats failing |
| 16:25.38 | resuDaed | I was just looking (OOI) at the cost of subscription, they want $5/month for a minumum of 3 months |
| 16:27.11 | resuDaed | so much for the open source community |
| 16:27.18 | Jenson | fucking linux |
| 16:27.27 | Jenson | ../mkinstalldirs: ../mkinstalldirs: No such file or directory |
| 16:27.27 | Jenson | make[1]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 127 |
| 16:27.27 | Jenson | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jenson/dumb-0.13.12/po' |
| 16:27.27 | Jenson | make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 |
| 16:27.27 | Jenson | bash-2.05a# |
| 16:27.48 | Jenson | I'm beginning to think that nothing works with Linux |
| 16:27.53 | resuDaed | make[1]: *** [fnt2bdf.o] Error 1 |
| 16:27.53 | resuDaed | make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/wine/tools' |
| 16:27.53 | resuDaed | make: *** [tools] Error 2 |
| 16:27.59 | murb | Jenson: you need to select the just work optoin. |
| 16:28.02 | resuDaed | :-P |
| 16:28.07 | Jenson | lol |
| 16:28.26 | murb | Jenson: install libtool |
| 16:28.52 | murb | Jenson: and read the building dependancies before you start... |
| 16:29.39 | Jenson | murb: I'm fed up being asked to install something else everytime I try to install anywathing. |
| 16:29.53 | Jenson | The only thing I have ever succesddfully installed iin linux is irssi |
| 16:31.09 | murb | Jenson: are you using slackware still? |
| 16:31.21 | murb | (and yes it is supposed to be hardwork) |
| 16:31.48 | Jenson | yeh Slack, might change to Debian though |
| 16:32.21 | resuDaed | lol, I fix one compile error, and out comes another |
| 16:32.40 | Jenson | resuDaed: yeh, sounds similar to me |
| 16:34.23 | resuDaed | murb : can you have a look @ http://resudaed.com/winex (stderr of make) |
| 16:34.30 | resuDaed | tell me what you think it might be this time |
| 16:34.33 | Jenson | If Windows didnt piss me off so much, I might have gone back to it by now, but at least Linux does things properly, unlike Win yesterday which ran out of memory trying to play MP3s and format a disk |
| 16:34.50 | Jenson | resuDaed: What are you doing all this for, more gaming? |
| 16:35.06 | resuDaed | Jenson : aye ... am bored of UnrealY/Quake3 |
| 16:35.47 | Jenson | Hopefully I'll manage to get DooM running, I've given up on my scanner, gone back to trying to get DooM to run |
| 16:39.47 | Jenson | or maybe not |
| 16:40.56 | Jenson | Well seenas I have no idea why it isnt finding the directory its looking for, I think I'll try and find something else to install |
| 16:41.22 | resuDaed | ah, my problem isn't my fault, flex is broken in 'sid' |
| 16:41.58 | Jenson | doesnt really make you feel any better though does it |
| 16:42.00 | Leeds | Debian broken? surely not! :-P |
| 16:42.07 | Jenson | heh Leeds |
| 16:44.10 | resuDaed | Leeds : apparantly its a coding issue in flex, 'sid' running the latest versions of everything picked it up |
| 16:44.43 | resuDaed | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=720983&group_id=72099&atid=533377 |
| 16:45.36 | Jenson | This computer is giving me a headache |
| 16:46.14 | murb | turn it off then. |
| 16:47.02 | Jenson | I might give up in a minute, I feel inclined to format linux off and install FreeBSD, but as I dont know how to format a HDD in linux that isnt gonna heppen, and I CBA anyway |
| 16:47.29 | murb | Jenson: why do you think freebsd will be easier? |
| 16:47.36 | murb | s/easier/any easier/ |
| 16:47.40 | Jenson | I dont |
| 16:48.03 | murb | You'll probably end up with a computer with less stuff working. |
| 16:48.10 | murb | do you dual boot this machine? |
| 16:48.15 | murb | why not install freebsd as well. |
| 16:48.20 | Jenson | I'm just convinced that computers arent meant to make you wanna cry |
| 16:48.24 | Jenson | I dont have any free space |
| 16:48.41 | Jenson | I did have Win98se/Slack/minimal Debian at one point |
| 16:49.14 | murb | Jenson: rubbish. |
| 16:49.20 | murb | everything is to make you cry |
| 16:49.26 | Jenson | true lol |
| 16:56.03 | resuDaed | has anyone got debian woody installed? |
| 16:56.28 | resuDaed | I need a sources.list from a stable install |
| 16:56.49 | Jenson | grrrrr, i just pissed zimm of coz I CBA to try and sort my bastard computer out |
| 16:59.21 | dankolb | startx -- :1 |
| 17:01.22 | Jenson | or maybe my computer is a bitch |
| 17:02.17 | dankolb | Get a Mac |
| 17:02.17 | Leeds | well, there's at least one bitch in the room... |
| 17:02.22 | Jenson | lol |
| 17:02.43 | Jenson | I might get Debian, at least I might not have so much shit installing programs then |
| 17:03.49 | dankolb | Urgh. |
| 17:04.19 | Leeds | hah |
| 17:04.31 | dankolb | Debian is evil |
| 17:04.57 | dankolb | (says he, who actually considers using the Debian GNU/Hurd, because it's the only Hurd distro) |
| 17:05.05 | Jenson | lol |
| 17:05.23 | Jenson | From what I've seen demonstrated of Debian, it makes more sense than Slack |
| 17:05.41 | dankolb | Maybe you should see Slack demonstrated then |
| 17:05.48 | Leeds | slack assumes you have a brain... maybe it's wrong :-) |
| 17:05.56 | Jenson | lol Leeds most likely |
| 17:06.06 | Jenson | dankolb: Come down here and demonstrater then |
| 17:06.09 | dankolb | Leeds: Yeah. Debian users don't need a brain. Or don't use it. |
| 17:06.14 | Leeds | yeah |
| 17:06.22 | Leeds | apt-get drool |
| 17:06.57 | dankolb | Yes. And apt-get will definitely rid the world of all evil, poverty and hunger |
| 17:07.03 | dankolb | Or so the Debianites would tell you |
| 17:07.10 | Jenson | dankolb: thats called being a wanker though |
| 17:07.25 | dankolb | YUes. You already said Debian user. |
| 17:07.38 | Leeds | Jenson: that's the natural state of debian users |
| 17:07.54 | Jenson | Leeds: bah, I've never seen a Debian user wanking |
| 17:09.06 | Jenson | heh and that shut ya up :P |
| 17:10.15 | Leeds | not discussing stuff like that... |
| 17:10.46 | Jenson | its alright, i dont wanna know |
| 17:13.15 | resuDaed | grrr, could be weeks before winex is fixed |
| 17:13.40 | Leeds | food time... |
| 17:13.47 | Jenson | cya Leeds |
| 17:13.54 | Jenson | resuDaed: Give up, go snuggle with Beth |
| 17:18.05 | resuDaed | dankolb : ?? |
| 17:18.18 | dankolb | C++ reference |
| 17:19.38 | Jenson | you geek lol |
| 17:19.57 | dankolb | Bjarne Stroustroup, developer of the C++ programming language |
| 17:21.05 | Jenson | Anyway, I'm outta here |
| 17:21.07 | Jenson | Seeya laterz |
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| 17:25.11 | resuDaed | afternoon DarkTrancer |
| 17:28.39 | DarkTrancer | hey sorry was readin your page |
| 17:30.13 | dankolb | Please say it's good. The web designers need a bit of praise. |
| 17:30.14 | dankolb | :) |
| 17:30.42 | DarkTrancer | lol..did i hear "free beer"? |
| 17:30.55 | denivri | somebody mention beer? |
| 17:32.29 | DarkTrancer | so this group is for central london only i take it? |
| 17:33.25 | denivri | DarkTrancer: its not exactly exclusive |
| 17:34.05 | DarkTrancer | ahh ok,i`m down in surrey so aint that far |
| 17:34.28 | denivri | i think as a general rule that your always welcome as long as you have something positive to contribute |
| 17:34.51 | DarkTrancer | i can bring scones? |
| 17:35.01 | denivri | or at least positive potential. |
| 17:35.03 | denivri | or scones :) |
| 17:35.18 | dankolb | Positive potential? Like a battery? |
| 17:35.25 | DarkTrancer | lol |
| 17:35.43 | denivri | :) |
| 17:35.44 | DarkTrancer | nothing like electro motive forces |
| 17:35.55 | dankolb | Nothing like 'em |
| 17:36.31 | denivri | well, i was going to hand out some leftover chicken bunna, but its just too nice to share. |
| 17:36.52 | DarkTrancer | the thought counts right? |
| 17:36.55 | denivri | any idea when somebdoy will hurry up and invent the synoptic(sp?) web? |
| 17:36.55 | dankolb | Yup |
| 17:37.02 | dankolb | synaptic? |
| 17:37.11 | denivri | yes synaptic. |
| 17:37.27 | dankolb | Wait until I do a PhD :-) |
| 17:37.34 | dankolb | I'll research it just for you |
| 17:37.35 | dankolb | :-P |
| 17:38.00 | denivri | it would be so nice just to be able to utter "indian cookery courses, useful, warwickshire" and get a list of good indian cookery courses in the area, nicely formatted to show price, time, availability, duration etc |
| 17:38.26 | dankolb | Rather than phoning up Yellow Pages and saying the same thing? |
| 17:38.41 | denivri | or "holidays, suitable for IT consultant, USA, outdoor, adventure, 6 weeks" and get a list and descriptions |
| 17:38.44 | denivri | dankolb: i said useful results |
| 17:38.49 | denivri | well implied. |
| 17:38.54 | dankolb | :) |
| 17:39.01 | dankolb | Web is often non-useful |
| 17:39.05 | dankolb | ibot google for useful results |
| 17:39.39 | denivri | yes thats the trouble. google is good at returning information, but it still means i need to pick through the results and determine from them the information i actually want. |
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| 17:39.52 | denivri | What would be very funky is if it could just corolate the relevent bits of information for me |
| 17:39.57 | *** part/#gllug unclex (unclex@userfd171.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 17:39.58 | dankolb | So ask someone else to do it |
| 17:40.00 | denivri | kind of like what froogle does, only with everything. |
| 17:41.42 | dankolb | Ah |
| 17:41.57 | dankolb | What's wrong with using brain-power? |
| 17:42.08 | Leeds | DarkTrancer: we have one regular round here in New York and another in Germany... :-) |
| 17:42.30 | dankolb | And one not-so-regular in Holland |
| 17:42.39 | DarkTrancer | ahh u`r in Ny,but are called leeds? |
| 17:42.53 | DarkTrancer | a cunning plan |
| 17:42.57 | Leeds | Leeds |
| 17:44.01 | DarkTrancer | so what do u all do at these meetings? |
| 17:44.37 | dankolb | Talk and drink beer |
| 17:44.42 | denivri | dankolb: because brain power is a finite resource |
| 17:45.04 | dankolb | You want to harness stupidity, in that case |
| 17:45.10 | denivri | dankolb: yes |
| 17:45.39 | denivri | i could probably do it with a large but finite number of monkeys |
| 17:45.49 | denivri | or an ntl call center |
| 17:45.54 | dankolb | :) |
| 17:46.02 | dankolb | Monkeys would probably work better |
| 17:46.09 | DarkTrancer | u can do anything with ntl? lol |
| 17:46.12 | denivri | yes, they certainly make more sense. |
| 17:46.35 | dankolb | :) |
| 17:46.38 | denivri | Monkeys are probably more likely to tellt he truth |
| 17:46.44 | dankolb | They're also cuter |
| 17:46.48 | denivri | yes much cuter. |
| 17:46.55 | DarkTrancer | and actually fix things,even if it means with a hammer |
| 17:46.56 | denivri | Speaking of whcih, i need to learn Spanish, and FAST! |
| 17:47.23 | denivri | yes, although fixing is beyond the scope of this, we simply need to retrieve information |
| 17:47.32 | dankolb | SPEAK SPANISH FAST! |
| 17:47.34 | dankolb | GUARANTEED! |
| 17:47.57 | dankolb | Well, couldn't most NTL call staff be fixed with a hammer? |
| 17:48.16 | denivri | i wish i could just download vast quantities of information into my brain without having to think about it |
| 17:48.31 | denivri | dankolb: well you could argue you could solve the problem of useless customer inservice staff with a hammer |
| 17:48.39 | denivri | well no not solve, but you could at least make it go away |
| 17:48.44 | dankolb | :) |
| 17:48.47 | dankolb | Same difference |
| 17:48.54 | dankolb | Solution is 90% cure |
| 17:48.56 | dankolb | Or something |
| 17:48.58 | denivri | heheh |
| 17:49.38 | DarkTrancer | they employ advanced quantum mechanic fields called a S.E.P feild |
| 17:49.46 | dankolb | :) |
| 17:50.06 | dankolb | DarkTrancer: What's your area of work? |
| 17:50.08 | DarkTrancer | S.E.P being Somebody Elses Problem |
| 17:50.20 | dankolb | Ah yes. I remember that one :) |
| 17:50.40 | DarkTrancer | =o) |
| 17:50.53 | DarkTrancer | atm i work for the council |
| 17:51.04 | dankolb | IT related? |
| 17:51.13 | DarkTrancer | grass related |
| 17:51.22 | denivri | hmm its about now that one of my housemates should arrive home and go postal. so if you don't see me don't worry i'm just being beaten about with a large bit of something heavy |
| 17:51.42 | dankolb | Okay, denivri |
| 17:51.54 | dankolb | Hah |
| 17:52.26 | denivri | and currently has lots of bare wires connected to the tv, and computers and network cables and a very large dell server on the coffee table |
| 17:52.34 | denivri | it sounds funky though |
| 17:52.38 | denivri | lots of woooooossh noises |
| 17:52.43 | denivri | and blinky lights |
| 17:52.49 | denivri | but not very housemate friendly |
| 17:54.52 | dankolb | Noise is bad |
| 17:56.42 | resuDaed | is a pain, flex is broken ... so I cannot compile from cvs |
| 17:57.06 | dankolb | heh |
| 17:57.12 | dankolb | Use a proper distro, then |
| 17:59.18 | resuDaed | dankolb : has nothing to do with debian ... flex itself is broken |
| 17:59.25 | dankolb | Heh |
| 17:59.34 | dankolb | IF it's broken, it shouldn't be distributed |
| 18:00.30 | resuDaed | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=720983&group_id=72099&atid=533377 |
| 19:05.20 | resuDaed | cd |
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| 19:11.50 | resuBitch | Hi |
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| 19:37.58 | Jenson | resuDaed: You got winex working yet? |
| 19:40.25 | resuDaed | Jenson : paid for it in the end |
| 19:41.22 | Jenson | heh |
| 19:41.35 | resuDaed | if anyone wants a copy, just ask |
| 19:42.12 | Jenson | what actually is it, a version of WINE? |
| 19:42.24 | resuDaed | a version of WINE aimed at gaming |
| 19:42.52 | Jenson | mmm sounds fun, i dont even have a version of wine yet, dont think ive got the bandwidth to d/l it |
| 19:43.10 | resuDaed | remind me another time, and I'll send you it on cd |
| 19:43.50 | Jenson | cool, thanks :) |
| 19:58.07 | Jenson | grrr, gonna have fun trying to talk my dad into getting 24hr internet access |
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| 20:06.52 | Jenson | heya steve |
| 20:07.04 | highbury | hi folks |
| 20:07.20 | highbury | just got gaim running on my laptop |
| 20:07.52 | Jenson | cool, you using it for IRC or IM or what? |
| 20:08.00 | highbury | all I need is internet access from my B&B in Bristol now |
| 20:08.47 | highbury | just for IM, I find if I run xchat and gaim by themselves, rather than do everything though gaim, I get better stability |
| 20:10.09 | Jenson | yeh i use xchat ain gaim |
| 20:10.19 | Jenson | s/ain/and |
| 20:10.29 | Jenson | Which IM protocols you on then? |
| 20:11.53 | highbury | just msn and icq |
| 20:12.12 | Jenson | cool |
| 20:12.31 | Jenson | ive been through them all in the last few years (on win i mean) settled with just msn now |
| 20:15.03 | highbury | I mostly use msn too, but I just have a few hangouts on icq. I guess I should try this jabber thing though one day |
| 20:15.44 | Jenson | i used to use icq, but the one mate i really had on there uses msn too |
| 20:33.20 | Jenson | congrats Leeds |
| 20:38.07 | Leeds | the joy of an MP3 collection on random play... "Turning Japanese" :-) |
| 20:42.26 | Leeds | xchat and gaim :-) |
| 20:43.06 | Jenson | Yesterday I got bored, and when I versioned like half the channel the client of choice seemed to be irssi |
| 20:43.28 | highbury | hmmm. why would writing shell scripts, with non hardcoded commands, e.g. ls and cat rather than /bin/ls and /bin/cat; be unsafe so long as I have a good search path set? |
| 20:44.03 | highbury | I'm trying to write some portable scripts, and it makes it a "right pain" |
| 20:45.12 | Leeds | highbury: if you explicitly set the PATH, it shouldn't be hugely bad... but if it could be run in a situation where . is in the PATH, for example, it's bad |
| 20:45.43 | highbury | welcome to a multitasking multi user operating system jenson! its called Unix |
| 20:46.02 | Jenson | lol highbury |
| 20:46.23 | Leeds | it's been around for over 30 years.... :-) |
| 20:46.28 | highbury | Leeds: yeah, that what I've always thought. I'm going to challenge their requirement |
| 20:47.26 | Leeds | heh... just went to starwars.com - got sent a wookie-cookie |
| 20:47.44 | Jenson | I've been using Linux since November, and properly since February |
| 20:49.09 | Leeds | me too... nov '95 and feb '96 :-) |
| 20:49.29 | Jenson | lol |
| 20:50.00 | highbury | hmm, can't remember the precise date.... 1979 I think |
| 20:50.27 | Jenson | lol my mate makes me laugh, she's worrying about what her boy/f will think of her in a bikini, and has just remembered he's seen her naked |
| 20:50.43 | Jenson | highbury: 5 years before i was born lol |
| 20:50.46 | highbury | brb. 24 starting soon, |
| 21:01.00 | Jenson | Do we interpret that as 'going off to watch TV for an hour' I wonder |
| 21:25.09 | dankolb | Yes |
| 21:25.16 | Jenson | lol hey Dan |
| 21:25.29 | dankolb | Hi |
| 21:25.39 | dankolb | (well, 56MB left) |
| 21:25.56 | Jenson | I'm going to bed |
| 21:26.00 | Jenson | Seeya all |
| 21:26.35 | dankolb | 'night |
| 21:46.45 | highbury | re |
| 21:47.42 | dankolb | Good programme? |
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| 22:14.56 | A4266 | yo |
| 22:15.11 | A4266 | any1 awake? |
| 22:16.35 | highbury | a few |
| 22:16.45 | A4266 | evenin' a few |
| 22:17.46 | dankolb | Yo |
| 22:18.59 | A4266 | whats every1 up to? |
| 22:19.15 | Leeds | chatting to my mum... finished cleaning bathroom for now |
| 22:19.19 | dankolb | Sitting on IRC and IM, feeling a bit bore |
| 22:19.19 | Leeds | going to bed soon |
| 22:19.20 | dankolb | *bored |
| 22:19.24 | dankolb | Probably going to bed |
| 22:19.27 | A4266 | hehe |
| 22:19.55 | A4266 | I've ben stuck in a car with me mom and her friend for the last 12 hours |
| 22:20.12 | dankolb | Fun fun |
| 22:20.12 | Leeds | I should add... chatting to my mum on ICQ, not phone or face2face :-) |
| 22:20.53 | A4266 | :) |
| 22:20.54 | dankolb | Not IRCing from Bristol anywhere/ |
| 22:20.57 | Leeds | have a good one highbury - we'll think of you :-) |
| 22:21.01 | dankolb | Geekmom! |
| 22:21.05 | dankolb | Err. |
| 22:21.07 | dankolb | Geekmum, even |
| 22:22.26 | A4266 | lol |
| 22:23.14 | Leeds | not bad... |
| 22:23.25 | Leeds | she quite likes it, I think... she did pop in here a couple of weeks back |
| 22:23.42 | A4266 | :) |
| 22:24.51 | A4266 | does any1 have a divx of battlefield earth 3000 by any chance? |
| 22:24.52 | Leeds | I talked her through a Mozilla upgrade (yup, Moz, not netscape) and she noticed the new chatzilla icon and wanted to know what it was :-) |
| 22:25.08 | A4266 | cool :) |
| 22:28.55 | A4266 | my mom still things the computer we put together for her is her's because it in the old case.... |
| 22:29.26 | Leeds | I have talked both my mum and my dad, on the phone, through dismantling the machine and installing a PCI network card :-) |
| 22:29.44 | A4266 | whoa!!! |
| 22:29.44 | Leeds | they're pretty good for olds :-) |
| 22:29.54 | A4266 | I'd say :) |
| 22:31.49 | Leeds | my mum, particularly, is quite into the 'net - she e-mails all her friends, found herself an ISP so she could go online when at their holiday place in Spain (with the laptop my dad bought her - on my advice - for her birthday) and so on |
| 22:31.55 | A4266 | my folks are kinda scared of the machine... My dad almost deleted a file due to 1 of those hoax virus emails.. |
| 22:32.08 | A4266 | lol |
| 22:32.15 | Leeds | they can be a bit naive... but they like it |
| 22:32.46 | A4266 | :) |
| 22:32.53 | Leeds | when they first got the place in Spain, they got ISDN put in by accident because they were asked if they wanted a line for the Internet, and they said yes... |
| 22:33.43 | A4266 | lol, thats one to get online!! |
| 22:34.19 | Leeds | it took me hunting through the Spanish telco's site, and talking to formi to work out what they'd dnoe |
| 22:36.07 | A4266 | heh |
| 22:37.06 | Leeds | hell - they've got a fax with built-in DECT... Sky with all the channels, and piped through to the bedrooms... |
| 22:37.20 | Leeds | the place is classy :-) and I'm off there in 5.5 weeks :-) |
| 22:37.43 | A4266 | sounds like a very good get away place!!! |
| 22:37.47 | Leeds | indeed it is |
| 22:38.10 | Leeds | flights from Luton to Malaga or Gib... rent a car... and only other expenses are food and booze :-) |
| 22:38.29 | A4266 | lol. And in spain those don't cost that much at all :) |
| 22:39.02 | Leeds | yeah :-) |
| 22:39.16 | Leeds | it's getting the time off work and finding someone to go with that's the problem... |
| 22:39.55 | A4266 | do ya need some1 to go with ya? Ya can pick some1 from the local beachs or something like that ;) |
| 22:40.51 | Leeds | it's too exclusive for that :-) |
| 22:41.07 | Leeds | posh place... |
| 22:41.37 | A4266 | hehe |
| 22:44.02 | dankolb | http://internet.ls-la.net/folklore/url-regexpr.html |
| 22:45.32 | A4266 | hmm... |
| 22:47.03 | A4266 | very bored I'd say!! |
| 22:48.29 | A4266 | so, does any1 has a divx of battlefield earth or know any1 that does? |
| 22:49.00 | dankolb | I have Battlefield Earth somewhere |
| 22:49.26 | A4266 | :) |
| 22:49.45 | dankolb | You want a copy, I take it |
| 22:49.48 | A4266 | on hd or lying lose? |
| 22:49.50 | A4266 | pls :) |
| 22:50.36 | A4266 | I've been without me star trek for more than 2 weeks and I'm feeling it!! I need Sci Fi!!! |
| 22:51.08 | dankolb | On CD |
| 22:51.29 | A4266 | anyway I can dl it off you sometime? |
| 22:52.02 | dankolb | With difficulty, beind on an internal network |
| 22:52.10 | dankolb | I could give you a copy at the next Gllug |
| 22:52.13 | A4266 | ahhh :/ |
| 22:52.31 | dankolb | Or stick a copy in the post |
| 22:52.38 | A4266 | thx might work :) But I'll probly have dl'd it from the old nap network by then... |
| 22:52.46 | dankolb | :) Sure |
| 22:53.16 | A4266 | I'll let ya know if I can't dl a good copy :) |
| 22:53.28 | dankolb | Okay :) |
| 22:55.03 | A4266 | Arg, I am so not feeling good :( |
| 22:55.06 | dankolb | What does 'tb' stand for? |
| 22:55.42 | A4266 | teabercaloses? |
| 22:55.52 | A4266 | *tebercaloses |
| 22:55.54 | dankolb | No |
| 22:56.00 | dankolb | Tuberculosis, anyway |
| 22:56.05 | A4266 | ahh, k |
| 22:56.13 | dankolb | Got it in text message from Jenson |
| 22:56.24 | A4266 | to be? or typo? |
| 22:56.34 | dankolb | Not type, I don't think |
| 22:56.48 | dankolb | "Take care and tb." |
| 22:57.06 | A4266 | hmm... never heard that 1 b4... |
| 22:57.12 | dankolb | Neither have I |
| 22:57.18 | dankolb | But she's used it a couple of times |
| 22:57.19 | A4266 | ahhh, typo |
| 22:57.29 | A4266 | probly suppost to be gb |
| 22:57.35 | A4266 | as in good bye? |
| 22:57.43 | dankolb | Dunno |
| 22:58.00 | dankolb | Possibly, possibly not |
| 22:58.09 | dankolb | I guess I'm going to have to just ask :-/ |
| 22:58.28 | A4266 | there's an abriviation list on the gllug site... |
| 22:58.30 | A4266 | hehe |
| 22:59.07 | dankolb | Anything appropriate there? |
| 22:59.31 | A4266 | have to look. 1 sec |
| 23:00.43 | dankolb | Nope. nothing there |
| 23:00.57 | A4266 | only thing that looks close is tbd |
| 23:01.53 | dankolb | Yeah, so no. |
| 23:02.01 | dankolb | I guess I'll just have to ask :-/ |
| 23:02.22 | dankolb | Anyway, I'm about to fall asleep, so good night |
| 23:02.26 | A4266 | hehe |
| 23:02.26 | A4266 | nn |
| 23:05.25 | resuDaed | A4266 : similar ... based on wine ... except you have to pay for it |
| 23:05.29 | Leeds | sleep time... |
| 23:07.27 | resuDaed | homeworld runs beuatifully uner it |
| 23:15.55 | Clyphox | Can't you CVS it for free? |
| 23:16.06 | resuDaed | Clyphox : you can, but flex is broken |
| 23:16.31 | Clyphox | Its the package that they bundle that rocks |
| 23:18.07 | *** join/#gllug denivri (~bofh@62.3.242.110) |
| 23:20.24 | resuDaed | a script for? |
| 23:33.17 | A4266 | I'm off to face that unknow world of sleep!! |
| 23:33.19 | A4266 | night all |
| 23:33.55 | Clyphox | nn |