| 00:01.04 | A4266 | half life 2?? There's another1? |
| 00:01.10 | Leeds | um, yeah |
| 00:01.19 | Leeds | released later this year, I think |
| 00:01.30 | A4266 | cool :) |
| 00:05.21 | A4266 | k, I gotta pack it in. Gotta get some sleep. Night night |
| 00:05.36 | Leeds | night |
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| 06:21.28 | zachary | good morning |
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| 07:43.30 | murb | moin |
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| 08:10.52 | SPQR | good moaning |
| 08:11.33 | dankolb | Morning |
| 08:14.41 | dankolb | ESPAMS |
| 08:16.28 | SPQR | whats that? |
| 08:17.01 | dankolb | Too many spams |
| 08:17.08 | dankolb | Not being caught by Spamassassin |
| 08:17.28 | SPQR | ohh, k |
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| 08:18.24 | dankolb | Nah |
| 08:18.28 | dankolb | Hi eye69 |
| 08:18.35 | SPQR | hey eye69 |
| 08:25.31 | eye69 | Hello |
| 08:25.46 | eye69 | Damn powercut... |
| 08:27.33 | dankolb | Damn RedHat CD3 not working |
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| 08:27.39 | dankolb | Requiring me to restart the install |
| 08:27.43 | dankolb | *mumble* *mumble* |
| 08:28.07 | eye69 | RH? Ewww. |
| 08:28.12 | dankolb | RH9 |
| 08:28.17 | JD | grrr internet died again |
| 08:28.23 | dankolb | Well, RH isn't that bad, really. Not compared to Rock |
| 08:29.08 | JD | dankolb: how does RH comapre to Debian iyho |
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| 08:29.44 | JD | grrrr |
| 08:30.00 | eye69 | I've got a webserver that wont boot |
| 08:30.06 | eye69 | Making a bootdisk for it now.. |
| 08:34.37 | dankolb | JD: IMHO RedHat is far nicer, because it's always worked for me |
| 08:35.06 | JD | dankolb: I would have thought that debian was closer to BSD than RH |
| 08:35.31 | dankolb | Yes, but all the Debian systems I've used have never worked properly for some reason or other |
| 08:35.53 | dankolb | Plus I object to the over-politics of something that really is just another OS |
| 08:36.07 | dankolb | It's not going to cure world hunger and poverty in one fell swoop |
| 08:37.07 | dankolb | Sure, apt-get is nice. But I've got it on RedHat systems. And on OS X |
| 08:42.53 | JD | dankolb: apt-get is not debian's strength |
| 08:43.01 | JD | policy is |
| 08:43.33 | dankolb | Yeah - politics, rather than technical, then |
| 08:44.04 | JD | dankolb: the point is that packages are designed to work together |
| 08:44.19 | dankolb | So are the RedHat ones that are on the CD |
| 08:44.28 | JD | and we have a document that tells you the Debian way |
| 08:44.42 | JD | dankolb: but everything not on the CD are not |
| 08:44.55 | JD | dankolb: welcome to RPM hell |
| 08:44.58 | dankolb | Which is fair enough. I have an objection to people who say it is the "One True Way", and you're only a true geek if you use Debian. Or something. |
| 08:45.25 | JD | I never said it was the "One True Way", merely the Debain way |
| 08:45.39 | dankolb | No, but other people do |
| 08:45.41 | JD | I know for a fact that it isn;t prefect |
| 08:45.53 | JD | (and I need to write an email to fix parts of it) |
| 08:45.55 | dankolb | And, TBH, I think a lot of people sound like raving religious people :-/ |
| 08:47.13 | dankolb | :) And I say use BSD/Slackware more as a joke, too. Unless there's a specific reason |
| 08:47.17 | JD | dankolb: have you looked at grub? |
| 08:47.19 | dankolb | However, some people are a bit too serious about it |
| 08:47.33 | dankolb | Sort of. I 'know' lilo.conf, so I feel more comfortable with it |
| 08:47.36 | dankolb | Bah :-P |
| 08:47.43 | dankolb | But a damn usable joke :) |
| 08:47.50 | JD | grub is cool and worth looking at at some point |
| 08:47.53 | JD | bah |
| 08:48.16 | JD | it has a cmdline in the boot loader |
| 08:48.37 | dankolb | :) |
| 08:48.53 | JD | so rather than rewriting your MBR every time, you can pick a kernel at boot time which you have not specified in the config file |
| 08:49.21 | JD | can do netboot too :) |
| 08:49.39 | dankolb | Sounds like a BSD bootloader |
| 08:51.34 | dankolb | Ah. It boots now :) |
| 08:51.45 | dankolb | Was installing RH9, and the 3rd CD was corrupt |
| 08:51.51 | dankolb | So I had to restart the installer |
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| 08:59.24 | dankolb | Hi cup |
| 09:01.48 | cup | morning |
| 09:48.09 | Clyphox | morning |
| 09:48.27 | JD | hi |
| 09:49.42 | dankolb | Apparently it still needs patches, which is why they need to be downloaded :) |
| 09:50.06 | dankolb | Too late |
| 09:50.08 | dankolb | Aw :( |
| 09:50.12 | dankolb | That could be a problem |
| 09:50.20 | dankolb | Well, if it doesn't work, I'll just download 2.5.67 |
| 09:50.34 | Clyphox | doesn't 2.4 have UML ? |
| 09:50.43 | dankolb | With patches |
| 09:51.08 | dankolb | This gives me a fun excuse to |
| 09:52.40 | dankolb | z is for gzip |
| 09:52.51 | JD | dankolb: but it could be z for compressed |
| 09:53.00 | dankolb | z is for gzip. Z is for compress |
| 09:53.10 | JD | it is just silly having to specify on or the other |
| 09:53.21 | JD | should have an option saying do what I mean |
| 09:53.32 | JD | don't even really need to specify z |
| 09:53.40 | dankolb | Write it :) |
| 09:53.50 | JD | if you specify a compressed file with -f then deal with it |
| 09:53.54 | JD | simple |
| 09:54.22 | dankolb | Hm. The patch worked... |
| 09:54.31 | JD | should just try each one in turn, with possible ordering dependant on filename |
| 09:54.39 | JD | dankolb: no, the patch applied |
| 09:54.44 | JD | dankolb: different things |
| 09:55.13 | dankolb | Well....yeah |
| 09:55.15 | dankolb | True |
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| 10:07.13 | nasrat | morning all |
| 10:09.03 | JD | bloody staff |
| 10:09.20 | JD | complained that his computer wasn't coming back from powersave mode |
| 10:09.41 | JD | he had kicked the power cable out of the back of his UPS |
| 10:11.02 | dankolb | Heh |
| 10:11.04 | dankolb | Hi nasrat |
| 10:11.29 | JD | oh yeah, hi paul |
| 10:11.41 | JD | dankolb: they have moved stuff around yes |
| 10:11.47 | dankolb | Haven't the kernel developers heard of CONSISTENCY?!? |
| 10:11.54 | dankolb | Grr |
| 10:11.55 | JD | dankolb: but 2.5 menuconfig is soooo much better than 2.4 version |
| 10:12.13 | dankolb | But moving stuff around. Bad. |
| 10:12.34 | dankolb | Mouse support for serial and PS/2 mice isn't actually under the Mouse section any more |
| 10:14.34 | nasrat | kconfig is quite nice. |
| 10:14.59 | nasrat | I guess that stuff is related to the new input layer |
| 10:15.39 | JD | I had fun trying to find the VGA_CONSOLE and VT_CONSOLE stuff |
| 10:15.55 | JD | turns out you have to have INPUT in the kernel and not as a module |
| 10:15.57 | nasrat | ah yeah well :) |
| 10:16.05 | JD | otherwise you don't get to see those options |
| 10:16.05 | nasrat | that's a faq |
| 10:16.27 | dankolb | :) |
| 10:16.29 | JD | nasrat: I knew I needed to turn on VT_CONSOLE |
| 10:16.40 | nasrat | yeah but it's when you can't see it :( |
| 10:16.47 | JD | but I didn;t know INPUT had to be y not m |
| 10:17.44 | nasrat | it's not particularly obvious, but hopefully that will be "sanitized" before 2.6 |
| 10:18.32 | nasrat | It's mentioned in davej's document http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/post-halloween-2.5.txt |
| 10:19.56 | dankolb | Error |
| 10:20.34 | dankolb | include/linux/sched.h:587: `CONFIG_KERNEL_STACK_ORDER' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 10:20.37 | dankolb | include/linux/sched.h:587: invalid type argument of `->' |
| 10:20.40 | dankolb | include/linux/sched.h:588: invalid type argument of `->' |
| 10:20.46 | dankolb | make[1]: *** [arch/um/util/mk_task_kern.o] Error 1 |
| 10:20.48 | dankolb | make: *** [arch/um/util] Error 2 |
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| 10:23.14 | dankolb | Eek! A sash! |
| 10:23.25 | sash | Ping pong. |
| 10:29.59 | dankolb | Grr. Why do people always phone Andy *just* when I wanted to say something to him? |
| 10:30.52 | JD | conspiracy |
| 10:31.13 | dankolb | Yes |
| 10:36.13 | dankolb | Ahh. Looks slightly better. 2.5.68 doesn't work with the .67 UML patch |
| 10:36.58 | dankolb | yes yes |
| 10:36.59 | dankolb | :-P |
| 10:38.37 | JD | wtf |
| 10:38.44 | JD | this is getting worse recently |
| 10:38.58 | JD | I should do a graph type thing |
| 10:39.00 | dankolb | That's similar to what I got |
| 10:39.08 | dankolb | although spamassassin caught 34 of them |
| 10:39.27 | JD | I have around 3500 in a year |
| 10:40.19 | JD | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:41.58 | dankolb | too many |
| 10:48.42 | dankolb | Well, it's compiling |
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| 10:52.31 | dankolb | It's him again |
| 10:54.09 | dankolb | How do you get an xterm to run as root without it complaining? |
| 10:56.33 | nasrat_ | network problems grre |
| 10:58.35 | eye69 | dankolb: Edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and enable X forwarding, restart SSH and run 'ssh -X root@localhost' |
| 10:59.06 | dankolb | Ah yeah |
| 10:59.08 | dankolb | d'oh! |
| 10:59.37 | dankolb | Yes. Better |
| 10:59.37 | dankolb | :) |
| 10:59.39 | eye69 | alias sux="ssh -X root@localhost" :) |
| 10:59.46 | dankolb | Or log out and log back in again |
| 10:59.50 | dankolb | Because I installed X |
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| 11:03.47 | dankolb | Hah |
| 11:03.50 | dankolb | Paul again! |
| 11:03.58 | dankolb | how much have you played with UML? |
| 11:06.10 | nasrat | not extensively why? |
| 11:06.16 | dankolb | Kernel panic: outer trampoline didn't exit with SIGKILL, status = -1610245099 |
| 11:06.46 | dankolb | ideas? |
| 11:07.31 | dankolb | Checking that host ptys support output SIGIO...Yes |
| 11:07.31 | dankolb | Checking that host ptys support SIGIO on close...No, enabling workaround |
| 11:07.31 | dankolb | POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX |
| 11:07.31 | dankolb | Initializing RT netlink socket |
| 11:07.31 | dankolb | Kernel panic: outer trampoline didn't exit with SIGKILL, status = -1610245099 |
| 11:07.34 | dankolb | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:08.02 | sash | http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0304.3/0027.html |
| 11:08.48 | dankolb | BAH |
| 11:08.50 | dankolb | Thanks, though |
| 11:09.16 | sash | np |
| 11:10.20 | dankolb | *mumble* *mumble* |
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| 11:39.43 | JD | hi zimm |
| 11:39.49 | JD | how is uni? |
| 11:40.29 | zimm | crap.... same as usual ,, |
| 11:41.18 | zimm | why the new nick Dpash ? |
| 11:42.16 | JD | cos dpash isn;t that great and doesn;t sound great |
| 11:42.47 | zimm | fairy nuff |
| 11:44.02 | zimm | PCworld sux .. |
| 11:44.14 | zimm | we all nknow that , but it deserved to be said again |
| 11:52.25 | zimm | http://www.lynx.net.uk/adsl/code/products.asp?recid=288&subcatid=44&catid=39 <><< good?? crap ?? opinions ?? |
| 12:23.10 | zimm | can anyone reccomend a good PC hardware shop in london ? |
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| 12:33.37 | zimm | hiya resuDaed |
| 12:33.52 | resuDaed_ssh | hey zimm ... you have an internet connection? |
| 12:34.31 | zimm | nah , not yet .. |
| 12:34.48 | zimm | im in the library researching adsl routers .. |
| 12:34.54 | zimm | should be online nest week . |
| 12:35.01 | zimm | s nest/next , lol |
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| 12:43.17 | dankolb | Hah |
| 12:43.29 | dankolb | We've run out of IP addresses. |
| 12:43.31 | dankolb | Gah. |
| 12:43.45 | dankolb | Well, we haven't. but our DNS is so unmaintained, we never know what's what |
| 12:44.43 | eye69 | dankolb: So clean it up. :) |
| 12:44.49 | resuDaed_ssh | dankolb : ok for some, I'm stuck behind IP masq |
| 12:45.02 | dankolb | So are we |
| 12:45.39 | dankolb | I thought you already had it |
| 12:46.42 | dankolb | Like resudaed.com ? |
| 12:47.32 | resuDaed_ssh | dankolb : yeah, but when the dns goes down, I know every ip address I work with |
| 12:47.55 | eye69 | dankolb: Well, for it to be widely deployed |
| 12:48.30 | dankolb | :) |
| 12:49.18 | resuDaed_ssh | could make a shite load of money going around enabling Windows boxes |
| 12:50.51 | eye69 | Actually downloaded at 100k+ last night |
| 12:50.56 | eye69 | Normally it's quite slow |
| 12:59.36 | dankolb | Woohoo. UML works. |
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| 13:01.12 | dankolb | Hi Paul |
| 13:02.02 | nasrat | hi |
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| 13:04.13 | dankolb | It works! |
| 13:04.20 | dankolb | ping 192.168.128.96 and it works :) |
| 13:10.13 | resuDaed | dankolb : the best bit about my job ... its about 3 mins walk from my front door (popped home to burn a cd) |
| 13:10.24 | dankolb | That's cool |
| 13:10.37 | dankolb | So is it a permanent job? |
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| 13:11.27 | nasrat | last day tomorrow - yay |
| 13:11.33 | resuDaed | I'm self empolyed ... so technically a contractor |
| 13:11.40 | dankolb | :) |
| 13:11.43 | dankolb | nasrat: then what? |
| 13:11.59 | nasrat | dankolb: then holiday for two weeks then looking around |
| 13:12.05 | dankolb | Cool |
| 13:12.40 | dankolb | Going anywhere for holiday? |
| 13:12.50 | nasrat | italy |
| 13:13.00 | dankolb | Nice |
| 13:13.14 | resuDaed | done, off back to work now |
| 13:13.24 | dankolb | See you in 5 |
| 13:13.28 | resuDaed | (don't you love fast burners |
| 13:13.48 | dankolb | Overburn! |
| 13:14.34 | sash | Afterburner! |
| 13:23.16 | resuDaed_ssh | eye69 : would you recommend woody & 2.4 kernel for a server? |
| 13:24.42 | eye69 | Sure. |
| 13:25.20 | dankolb | No. Use Slackware :) |
| 13:25.24 | resuDaed_ssh | your iso is damn useful |
| 13:25.35 | resuDaed_ssh | dankolb : this is for speedy install |
| 13:25.47 | dankolb | Slackware installs quickly |
| 13:25.49 | eye69 | resuDaed_ssh: Netinst one? |
| 13:25.57 | resuDaed_ssh | eye69 : yes |
| 13:26.25 | resuDaed_ssh | only got a 1Mbit connection here, but is enough |
| 13:27.11 | resuDaed_ssh | except it hasn't detectd the NIC :-( |
| 13:27.30 | resuDaed_ssh | (recent 3com) |
| 13:27.36 | eye69 | Very recent? |
| 13:27.50 | eye69 | http://www.debian.org/~blade/bf/ |
| 13:27.59 | eye69 | The newest version |
| 13:28.38 | resuDaed_ssh | 3C905C |
| 13:28.50 | resuDaed_ssh | available as modular? |
| 13:35.03 | resuDaed_ssh | hasn't found an Ne2k (RTL8019 ISA) |
| 13:35.07 | resuDaed_ssh | worrying |
| 13:35.36 | resuDaed_ssh | does the 3c905B use a different module? |
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| 14:02.24 | nasrat | resuDaed_ssh: 3c59x: Donald Becker and others. www.scyld.com/network/vortex.html |
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| 14:41.00 | resuDaed_ssh | grrr, cannot detect any NIC :-S |
| 14:43.41 | eye69 | You'll have to load modules for most NIC's. |
| 14:44.16 | resuDaed_ssh | what is the actual file I need for a precomiled module (I can scp it from home) |
| 14:44.31 | eye69 | They're already on the CD. |
| 14:44.38 | resuDaed_ssh | where? |
| 14:44.42 | eye69 | It gives you the option of loading modules during the installation. |
| 14:45.00 | eye69 | Can't miss it. |
| 14:50.34 | resuDaed_ssh | eye69 : whats the option ... Configure Device Driver Modules? |
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| 15:10.36 | JD | fscking powercut in .lu |
| 15:10.58 | resuDaed_ssh | the fscking came after the power cut :-P |
| 15:11.25 | dankolb | yes because the drives weren't cleanly unmounted |
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| 15:35.02 | JD | resuDaed_: no internet access for 3 hours |
| 15:35.09 | JD | almost went mad |
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| 15:35.37 | Freedevil | how does one obtain Iso9660fsys to mount_iso9660 discs |
| 15:35.52 | Freedevil | searched google a lot jsut explains it but umm anyone use it before? |
| 15:38.34 | JD | would that be a BSD or hurd thing? |
| 15:39.29 | Freedevil | umm a linux/unix thing im guessing |
| 15:39.39 | Freedevil | i used burncd and it creates it in iso9660 fs |
| 15:40.08 | dankolb | Eh? |
| 15:40.23 | Freedevil | never heard of iso9660? |
| 15:40.26 | dankolb | Yes |
| 15:40.36 | dankolb | It's the standard format for a CD filesystem |
| 15:40.49 | Freedevil | yepp |
| 15:41.05 | Freedevil | i guess its a bsd problem umm |
| 15:41.05 | dankolb | What about it? |
| 15:41.24 | Freedevil | i dont have it in my ls -la /sbin | grep mount |
| 15:41.27 | Freedevil | so i cant mount the cd |
| 15:41.40 | dankolb | mount_cd9660 |
| 15:41.47 | Freedevil | that wont work |
| 15:41.51 | dankolb | Why not? |
| 15:42.12 | Freedevil | is not in the cd9660 format bsd is weird |
| 15:42.16 | dankolb | Eh? |
| 15:42.20 | Freedevil | cd9660: /dev/acd1c: Invalid argument |
| 15:42.24 | dankolb | What isn't in the CD9660 format? |
| 15:42.30 | Freedevil | no tis in iso9660 |
| 15:42.35 | JD | Freedevil: just mount it without giving a -t flag and it will work |
| 15:42.42 | Freedevil | as per the manpage of burncd it creates it in that format |
| 15:43.08 | Freedevil | dankolb: i created a dat cd with burncd basically a movie and wish to mount it now and watch it |
| 15:43.15 | dankolb | Uhhuh |
| 15:43.17 | Freedevil | Im unable to mount it... |
| 15:43.20 | dankolb | Did you 'burncd' the AVI file? |
| 15:43.24 | Freedevil | yes |
| 15:43.29 | dankolb | Well that's wrong |
| 15:43.39 | Freedevil | y is that? |
| 15:43.44 | dankolb | The data on the CD *is* the AVI file - no filesystem |
| 15:43.51 | dankolb | You need to create a filesystem using mkisofs |
| 15:44.00 | dankolb | burncd just writes a file to CD |
| 15:44.05 | Freedevil | err |
| 15:44.06 | dankolb | Like cdrecord for SCSI burners |
| 15:44.58 | Freedevil | yeah ive never used this burner before |
| 15:45.16 | dankolb | It's any burner |
| 15:45.26 | dankolb | burncd doesn't create file systems |
| 15:50.25 | Freedevil | dankolb: umm isnt mkisofs for isos? |
| 15:50.56 | dankolb | Yes |
| 15:51.05 | Freedevil | so?? |
| 15:51.17 | dankolb | So you need to make an ISO to burn to CD |
| 15:51.39 | Freedevil | i see and you should do that for data cds? |
| 15:51.46 | dankolb | Yes |
| 15:52.05 | Freedevil | k thnks |
| 15:55.23 | dankolb | Er, okay. why? |
| 15:56.34 | JD | stress |
| 15:56.43 | dankolb | Did I sound stressed? |
| 15:56.56 | JD | probably not, but you probably should be |
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| 16:00.04 | nasrat | hi skugg |
| 16:00.11 | skugg | hi nasrat :) |
| 16:00.18 | skugg | have you packed yet? :) |
| 16:00.29 | nasrat | nope - wednesday night methinks |
| 16:00.44 | skugg | lemme guess... you're leaving early thursday morning? :) |
| 16:03.14 | nasrat | flight is Thursday afternoon |
| 16:03.24 | skugg | ah, i see. |
| 16:03.27 | skugg | not bad then |
| 16:05.41 | Freedevil | hey dankolb thnks a lot man it worked just fine |
| 16:05.50 | dankolb | yw |
| 16:06.28 | resuDaed_ | skugg : you familiar with installing debian over a network? |
| 16:11.28 | JD | ISP just phoned to tell us that the internet is working now |
| 16:11.36 | dankolb | Good |
| 16:11.38 | dankolb | :) |
| 16:12.03 | JD | resuDaed_: when you say over the internet do you mean netboot? |
| 16:12.15 | skugg | resuDaed_, nope. never done that. |
| 16:12.40 | skugg | resuDaed_, i've always installed the base system from cd or floppies and the rest over network |
| 16:13.03 | skugg | i'm not really installing that often either... i find it's one of the virtues of linux over windows ;) |
| 16:13.03 | resuDaed_ | skugg : I am having problems detecting NICs, is all |
| 16:13.29 | skugg | resuDaed_, that, i think, was the reason I resorted to insatll from cd too... |
| 16:14.11 | resuDaed_ | skugg : lol |
| 16:14.57 | JD | resuDaed_: what are you booting from? |
| 16:15.16 | JD | resuDaed_: you probably want to use the bf2.4 floppies |
| 16:16.37 | Freedevil | in the kernel option load ur nic module... |
| 16:16.52 | Freedevil | that is with the floppies JD mentioned |
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| 16:20.24 | SPQR | 'ello |
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| 16:32.17 | JD | grrrrr |
| 16:34.01 | dankolb | Yes |
| 16:38.57 | SPQR | ibot google for half-life 2 |
| 16:56.01 | nasrat | home time |
| 17:05.28 | dankolb | Hometime |
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| 17:37.22 | Jenson | hey all |
| 17:43.13 | murb | hi Jenson |
| 17:44.11 | Jenson | heya murb |
| 17:48.27 | resuDaed_ | hey jenson |
| 17:48.57 | Jenson | heya resuDaed_ how are you (other than the lag)? |
| 17:49.00 | resuDaed_ | (ripping 108kB/s of 1Mbit connection) |
| 17:49.06 | resuDaed_ | still working |
| 17:49.50 | Jenson | work, not fun, i finished at half 4 |
| 17:49.50 | JD | hi Jenson |
| 17:49.54 | Jenson | heya JD |
| 17:50.10 | JD | so was this your new job |
| 17:50.15 | Jenson | yeh |
| 17:50.32 | Jenson | quite funny, yesterday i fucked a machine up after 10 mins and it took them an hour to fix it |
| 17:50.32 | JD | good |
| 17:50.47 | Jenson | today i didnt destroy anything lol |
| 17:50.54 | resuDaed_ssh | Jenson : what's your new job? |
| 17:51.09 | JD | having sex with computers :) |
| 17:51.14 | Jenson | resuDaed_ssh: Putting crap on little robot things and pressing buttons |
| 17:51.20 | resuDaed_ssh | server porn baby! |
| 17:51.28 | Jenson | heh unixsex |
| 17:51.29 | resuDaed_ssh | Jenson : explain |
| 17:51.58 | Jenson | resuDaed_ssh: Diesel injector assembly |
| 17:52.07 | resuDaed_ssh | factory? |
| 17:52.20 | Jenson | yeh |
| 17:53.08 | JD | she earns nearly as much as I do :) |
| 17:53.13 | resuDaed_ssh | when I start making money ... I'll have a position opening in my dept. for a junior unix sysadmin :-) (if you're still looking for comp work then) |
| 17:53.13 | Jenson | someone has this really cool pic of the FreeBSD daemon stabbing the Tux with his pitchfork on their machine, I want it |
| 17:53.50 | Jenson | resuDaed_ssh: No doubt I will |
| 17:54.50 | resuDaed_ssh | orrigional ... a thinkgek job? |
| 17:55.31 | Jenson | JD: Is the condom in it? |
| 17:55.37 | JD | nope, copyright infringer |
| 17:55.42 | JD | Jenson: nope |
| 17:56.01 | JD | http://www.naughtyvend.com |
| 17:56.21 | Jenson | lol |
| 17:56.34 | Jenson | they make vending machine that vend dildos ive seen that site....not sure why or when lol |
| 17:57.05 | JD | yeah, but they have infringed on the BSD guys copyright |
| 17:57.55 | Jenson | yeh, thats how i eneded up on the site, someone said they nicked the daemon logo |
| 17:58.06 | JD | yep |
| 18:00.30 | JD | I've spoken with the guy about it and he said that he had asked them to stop and they basically told him to piss off |
| 18:00.51 | resuDaed_ssh | is it possible to allow certain php scripts to override the timeout option in php.ini? |
| 18:01.09 | Jenson | well thr whole condom packet thing is cool, but not how they nicked the logo as their corporate logo |
| 18:01.45 | JD | resuDaed_ssh: no idea. don't do php |
| 18:02.13 | resuDaed_ssh | some how, I don't think 'open source' condoms would sell to well, even if powered by the BSD demon |
| 18:03.23 | Jenson | lol, it would amuse us geeks, if geeks ever need such things |
| 18:05.46 | resuDaed_ssh | Jenson : what are you implying? |
| 18:05.49 | resuDaed_ssh | :-) |
| 18:05.52 | JD | are you saying geeks get no sex? |
| 18:05.58 | Jenson | heh |
| 18:06.22 | Jenson | When it comes to you too, I know better than to imply such ideas |
| 18:06.28 | Jenson | s/too/two |
| 18:08.13 | JD | probably |
| 18:08.20 | Jenson | yeh my thought exactly |
| 18:08.23 | Jenson | I'm sleepy |
| 18:09.37 | resuDaed_ssh | Jenson : fvwm95 |
| 18:09.46 | A4266 | hey all |
| 18:09.57 | Jenson | resuDaed_ssh: true |
| 18:10.01 | Jenson | evening AL |
| 18:10.09 | A4266 | heya Becks :) |
| 18:11.00 | Jenson | why am i incapable of loading another X server ffs |
| 18:14.33 | resuDaed_ssh | A4266 : I now have UPS at my workstation |
| 18:15.47 | Jenson | http://www.bsdaemon.org/bsdpics/BSDiva.gif weird..... |
| 18:17.13 | resuDaed_ssh | scary |
| 18:17.26 | Jenson | http://www.bsdaemon.org/bsdpics/ChuckVsTux.jpg is the pic i saw at work that i was looking for |
| 18:18.16 | A4266 | heh |
| 18:19.13 | A4266 | resuDaed_ssh : I'm getting 1 this week that I gotta setup |
| 18:19.17 | Jenson | i was on a factory tour, i so geeked out when i saw that....and then i geeked out again today when a the guy thsat built our old computer came in, he tried linux ages ago, hated it, and refuses to retry it |
| 18:20.58 | resuDaed_ssh | poor bastard |
| 18:26.58 | JD | going home for food and bed |
| 18:27.00 | JD | night all |
| 18:27.03 | A4266 | nn |
| 18:27.20 | resuDaed_ssh | laters |
| 18:27.21 | Jenson | night JD |
| 18:29.49 | Jenson | crap, dinner's ready |
| 18:29.51 | Jenson | BBS |
| 18:29.55 | Jenson | dont wanna eat a\nywya |
| 18:30.15 | A4266 | have just a small bite then :) |
| 18:31.14 | resuDaed_ssh | ah, I should add an aterm checker to that list |
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| 18:32.54 | resuDaed_ssh | Leeds : is it possible to reverse iniiate an ssh connection in anyway (one box is behind IP masq, a server which I have no access to) |
| 18:32.55 | Jenson | ive brought dinner back with me, now i can look at it |
| 18:33.15 | Jenson | resuDaed_ssh: let him get in the door :P |
| 18:33.24 | Leeds | resuDaed_ssh: there are ways you could hack it up... |
| 18:33.32 | Leeds | but not out-the-box |
| 18:34.00 | resuDaed_ssh | can an ssh tunnel work 2 ways? |
| 18:34.08 | Leeds | sure |
| 18:34.25 | Leeds | remote tunnel and local tunnel |
| 18:35.08 | Leeds | you could leave an ssh running on $firewalled_machine (hence fm) to $routed_machine (rm) with a tunnel |
| 18:35.21 | resuDaed_ssh | I just want to do somw work on this box overnight |
| 18:35.23 | Leeds | which would mean a socket open on rm which points at the ssh socket on fm |
| 18:35.33 | Leeds | needs preparation though |
| 18:36.31 | resuDaed_ssh | is there anyway I can initiate a tunnel from this end and pick it up on my box? |
| 18:36.32 | Jenson | BRB, I'm gonna go eat |
| 18:36.48 | Leeds | which is which end? |
| 18:37.31 | A4266 | cya Jenson |
| 18:37.34 | resuDaed_ssh | MB = my box ... direct internet connection (& its own IP), RB = remote box (where I am now), behind IP masq |
| 18:37.47 | resuDaed_ssh | I want to work from MB on RB |
| 18:38.48 | Leeds | do "ssh -R 2022:localhost:22 MB" now on RB... leave that running |
| 18:39.09 | Leeds | port 2022 on MB is now effictively tunneled to the ssh port on RB |
| 18:40.07 | resuDaed_ssh | where MB is hostname correct? |
| 18:40.14 | Leeds | but it's only open to connections from MB |
| 18:40.27 | Leeds | MB is your home machine, RB is your work machine... I assum |
| 18:40.47 | resuDaed_ssh | yes |
| 18:41.16 | resuDaed_ssh | I now have a login prompt from MB |
| 18:41.24 | resuDaed_ssh | s/login/ |
| 18:41.42 | Leeds | um, so login? :-) |
| 18:41.55 | resuDaed_ssh | to port 2022? |
| 18:42.09 | Leeds | have you logged-in to MB? |
| 18:42.28 | resuDaed_ssh | running the command you gave logged me into MB |
| 18:43.06 | Leeds | okay... so in another window/console... |
| 18:43.55 | Leeds | run "ssh MB" then once you're connected run "ssh -p 2022 localhost" which should give you a login prompt on RB |
| 18:44.26 | Jenson | back |
| 18:45.00 | A4266 | bbl. I gotta go shower and help with getting stuff ready for my little is's b'day |
| 18:45.03 | resuDaed_ssh | oohh ... thanks Leeds |
| 18:45.06 | A4266 | *sis's |
| 18:45.24 | Leeds | so leave the ssh -R running... and you can connect back to RB from home |
| 18:45.33 | Jenson | Beth was whinging about little sisters b/days last week] |
| 18:46.00 | resuDaed_ssh | lol |
| 18:46.17 | Leeds | remote port forwarf |
| 18:46.20 | Leeds | forward |
| 18:46.45 | Jenson | seeyaz guys |
| 18:47.14 | resuDaed_ssh | very very cool, ty Leeds |
| 18:47.30 | Leeds | no probs... that's the kind of thing which makes ssh so very very cool |
| 18:47.49 | resuDaed_ssh | I can only connect to port 2022 from MB? |
| 18:49.27 | Leeds | yup |
| 18:50.10 | Leeds | if you particularly need to get to it from elsewhere, add -g, but it's less secure |
| 18:50.18 | resuDaed_ssh | ok, ty |
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| 18:58.07 | cupis | pdr: ping |
| 18:58.09 | cupis | bah |
| 18:58.17 | cupis | ibot: seen pdr |
| 18:58.17 | | pdr <~pdr@www.pewtersystems.pdr.me.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 10d 3h 58m 41s ago, saying: 'hi dummy '. |
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| 19:15.54 | A4266 | hee hee, muse sounds funny now :D |
| 19:17.10 | A4266 | I have 668 currently in my playlist :) |
| 19:17.39 | A4266 | thats with a bout 5 DI radio links included |
| 19:17.57 | resuDaed_ssh | DI on a separate playlist |
| 19:18.01 | Leeds | DI? |
| 19:18.09 | A4266 | digitaly imported |
| 19:18.13 | resuDaed_ssh | digitallyimported.com |
| 19:18.21 | Leeds | never heard of them |
| 19:18.23 | A4266 | that 1 /\ :) |
| 19:18.41 | resuDaed_ssh | quite possibly the biggest internet radio station |
| 19:18.41 | A4266 | trance, techno, that sorta music. |
| 19:18.46 | A4266 | yup |
| 19:18.48 | Leeds | ugh |
| 19:18.54 | A4266 | if not the biggest |
| 19:19.09 | resuDaed_ssh | biggest according to shoutcast |
| 19:19.14 | Leeds | Tom Lehrer now... |
| 19:19.27 | A4266 | heh, which song? |
| 19:19.27 | Leeds | biggest for real is probably on AOL or some such shite |
| 19:19.33 | A4266 | ya :/ |
| 19:19.38 | Leeds | I wanna go back to Dixie |
| 19:19.49 | resuDaed_ssh | 11861 listeners atm |
| 19:19.52 | A4266 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:20.07 | Leeds | not my favourite.. |
| 19:20.29 | A4266 | posioning pigeons is better :) |
| 19:20.33 | A4266 | *poisoning |
| 19:20.47 | dankolb | # All the world seems in tune on a spring afternoon |
| 19:21.12 | resuDaed_ssh | with his work box running on ups and ssh tunneling |
| 19:21.20 | A4266 | I can't rember all the words, but I like it :) |
| 19:21.30 | A4266 | the Vatican Rag wasn't to bad either. |
| 19:21.36 | Leeds | Elements... |
| 19:21.47 | A4266 | lol |
| 19:21.53 | A4266 | now that was a song!! |
| 19:22.25 | Leeds | Red Hot Chilli Peppers now... |
| 19:23.11 | Leeds | indeed |
| 19:23.24 | A4266 | true |
| 19:23.35 | A4266 | same for Kiven 'Bloody' Wilson |
| 19:23.41 | A4266 | *Kevin |
| 19:27.31 | Leeds | Republica... |
| 19:27.58 | resuDaed_ssh | and signs off |
| 19:30.37 | Leeds | hmm... modern jazz? |
| 19:30.57 | dankolb | Who? |
| 19:31.20 | A4266 | kinda. Kung Fu is a good sound though ;) |
| 19:31.38 | A4266 | 1 of 2 of his that ended on the Matrix sound track |
| 19:31.47 | A4266 | *song even |
| 19:32.18 | Leeds | and back to Noa... |
| 19:32.46 | Leeds | hmm... I have the Matrix soundtrack on my machine at work, but not here |
| 19:33.36 | A4266 | I beieve he's got 1 or 2 more for the next few films. |
| 19:34.53 | Leeds | Masochism Tango! :-) |
| 19:35.03 | A4266 | lol |
| 19:35.49 | dankolb | Yay! |
| 19:36.07 | dankolb | # I ache for the touch of your lips, dear, but much more for the touch of your whips, dear |
| 19:37.50 | A4266 | Poisoning Pigeons In The Park |
| 19:38.12 | dankolb | Yay :) |
| 19:38.38 | Leeds | you can raise welts like no-body else, as we dance to the masachism tango |
| 19:38.38 | A4266 | N apostrophe T next :) |
| 19:38.41 | dankolb | :) |
| 19:38.44 | Leeds | random... |
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| 19:39.10 | Jenson | heya Dan |
| 19:39.11 | A4266 | heya becks |
| 19:39.12 | Jenson | Heya Al |
| 19:40.04 | Jenson | My granny is doing my head in, she refuses to believe that if she gets a new Win98 machine I can set it up for her....I'm almost a Win geek and a lot of you guys are Wingeeks I';m sure we can manage |
| 19:40.16 | A4266 | lol |
| 19:41.16 | A4266 | tell her that you have friends nearby who have to work with win machines every day :/ |
| 19:41.59 | A4266 | I have a file with extension .lit What can I use to open it? |
| 19:42.24 | Leeds | MS Reader... closed text format (yes!) windows only |
| 19:42.25 | dankolb | Depends what the3 .lit file is |
| 19:42.45 | A4266 | txt mostly as far as I can see |
| 19:43.00 | A4266 | ms reader? Never heard of it b4 |
| 19:43.13 | Clyphox | re |
| 19:43.17 | A4266 | ping |
| 19:43.22 | Jenson | heya David |
| 19:43.32 | Leeds | it was originally for Pocket PC, AFAIK |
| 19:43.54 | Clyphox | heya wingeek |
| 19:44.10 | A4266 | hmm... :/ any other prog I can use to open it? |
| 19:44.16 | dankolb | strings |
| 19:44.19 | Jenson | I am not a wingeek lol |
| 19:44.34 | Jenson | ewwww, I've had a bath and my hands still smell like oil |
| 19:44.37 | Leeds | there's a program to unpack them called clit.exe I believe :-) |
| 19:44.51 | A4266 | lol |
| 19:44.51 | Jenson | I must try and scrounge a job in the computer deparment |
| 19:45.12 | Jenson | Leeds: That makes me think of dodgy electric shock site that I dont wanna think about it |
| 19:45.13 | A4266 | yup, then you'll only have the smell of fried electronics :D |
| 19:45.28 | A4266 | www.wiredpussy.com ? |
| 19:45.38 | Jenson | A4266: I think they sit on their arses staring at Win systems, dont think they do anything |
| 19:45.47 | Jenson | no A4266 some amatuer site what i dont remember |
| 19:45.57 | A4266 | then why do they have the dept? :P |
| 19:46.09 | A4266 | www.ihateyourkids.com? |
| 19:46.55 | Jenson | A4266: Just asked my dad, they are just sys admins |
| 19:47.21 | Leeds | Jenson: I take being called a wingeek as an insult |
| 19:47.27 | dankolb | Solgeek |
| 19:47.33 | A4266 | lol |
| 19:47.34 | dankolb | C'ya |
| 19:47.38 | Jenson | Leeds: I didnt call you a Wingeek lol |
| 19:47.40 | Jenson | cya Dan |
| 19:47.41 | A4266 | jenson : Ya might get in then :) |
| 19:47.42 | Leeds | nixgeek |
| 19:47.47 | Leeds | seeya dan |
| 19:47.53 | Jenson | A4266: Aint qualified am i |
| 19:48.17 | A4266 | Jenson : Niether am I :P Just ask and they might let ya in :) |
| 19:48.36 | Jenson | A4266: Ah, but you're tall and sexy, that helps :P |
| 19:49.08 | A4266 | lol, not sure about the sexy part :P I think being big is also useful ;) |
| 19:50.20 | Jenson | You are sexy, you know it :P |
| 19:50.39 | Leeds | someone want to do me a favour and try that? |
| 19:50.44 | Jenson | Leeds: That bot/script is gonna get irritating darling |
| 19:50.55 | A4266 | I'm gonna now |
| 19:51.18 | A4266 | not sure if I got it right :/ |
| 19:51.30 | A4266 | Jenson : Only sometime :) |
| 19:51.33 | Leeds | I think that's how it's meant to work |
| 19:52.05 | A4266 | Am I suppost to put anything on the GETSONG part? |
| 19:52.30 | Leeds | A4266: I think you're meant to get a dcc of the file... |
| 19:52.36 | Clyphox | Hey AL I got about 30 Ton Lehrer songs yesterday... |
| 19:53.15 | A4266 | Clyphox : Which 1's? |
| 19:54.23 | Leeds | since you asked nicely :-) |
| 19:54.28 | A4266 | thx :) |
| 19:56.19 | Clyphox | A4266: most of what dad has and much more... :-) |
| 20:11.03 | A4266_doing_part | cya all |
| 20:11.40 | Leeds | doing part? |
| 20:13.05 | A4266_doingparty | wouldn't let ne do a longer 1 :/ |
| 20:13.07 | Leeds | ah :-) enjoy... |
| 20:13.13 | A4266_doingparty | anyway!! bbl |
| 20:16.02 | Leeds | hmm... some nice jazz... |
| 20:17.02 | Jenson | I'm listening to Westlife and Justin Timberlake, but only coz I love the songs coz they're cool love songs |
| 20:17.24 | Leeds | um... |
| 20:17.32 | Leeds | I wouldn't admit to that |
| 20:17.39 | Clyphox | What do they call that? "cool love songs" |
| 20:18.04 | Leeds | I call it shite |
| 20:18.26 | Clyphox | Oxymoron? |
| 20:18.27 | Jenson | Leeds: I had them listening to fucking Britney at work today...I have loads of cdrs of splitting up songs from when I was 16 |
| 20:18.43 | Jenson | Then I had Incubus |
| 20:18.47 | Jenson | oh and Blue |
| 20:18.58 | Leeds | dunno incubus... |
| 20:19.05 | Jenson | Incubus good |
| 20:19.16 | Clyphox | I heard a nice unplugges song by Limp Bizkit.. Called : Brittney You Suck! |
| 20:19.29 | Jenson | lol Clyphox dont wanna know what she's been sucking |
| 20:19.47 | Clyphox | THat actually was the theme of the album |
| 20:19.58 | Clyphox | er Song |
| 20:20.11 | Jenson | what, you mean what she'd been sucking |
| 20:20.28 | Clyphox | yeah.. to get where she is.. |
| 20:20.32 | Jenson | ewwwww |
| 20:21.11 | Jenson | I really wanted Linus Torvalds to be cute, but when I actually got to seeing a pciture, he looks so geek lol |
| 20:21.28 | Leeds | yeah, he's geeky... I think I almost bumped into him once... |
| 20:21.33 | JD | back |
| 20:21.36 | Jenson | wb |
| 20:21.37 | Clyphox | ibot: lart Jenson |
| 20:21.46 | Jenson | oi Clyphox |
| 20:21.59 | Clyphox | don't you be a dissin Mr Linux.. |
| 20:22.14 | Jenson | Clyphox: I wasnt. looking geek is cool |
| 20:22.17 | Leeds | ibot give me back that Solaris D! |
| 20:22.17 | | Leeds: i haven't a clue |
| 20:22.19 | Jenson | but sexy geek is better |
| 20:22.27 | JD | Leeds: that is evil |
| 20:22.31 | Clyphox | Jenson: I was only kiddink anyhow |
| 20:22.39 | Jenson | heh i know darling |
| 20:22.45 | JD | Leeds: why would we care what you are listening to? |
| 20:22.46 | Leeds | I mean literally bumped into Linus, by the way... was at LinuxWorld and I think I almost walked into him |
| 20:22.52 | Clyphox | I wanna look like an evil geek.. with Goatee and Matrix Coat |
| 20:22.57 | Jenson | grrr sorry, been hanging around this northnewr who's been calling me hon and darling all day |
| 20:23.01 | Clyphox | And a GUN! Muhaha! |
| 20:23.08 | Jenson | Clyphox: Like new2unix lol |
| 20:23.24 | Jenson | Clyphox: You're too nice to pull it off anyway |
| 20:23.28 | Leeds | JD: don |
| 20:23.39 | Leeds | don't care if you care... you'll know! |
| 20:23.44 | Jenson | lol Leeds |
| 20:23.49 | Jenson | I've got 3 songs on loop |
| 20:24.10 | Jenson | Westlife - Miss You Nights and Tonight, and Justin - Cry Me A River |
| 20:24.21 | Jenson | I thnik I must still be kinda loved up |
| 20:24.50 | Leeds | ibot kill Jenson |
| 20:24.52 | | ACTION slits Jenson's throat |
| 20:24.55 | Leeds | put her out of her misery! |
| 20:24.58 | Jenson | lol |
| 20:25.05 | Leeds | play something fun for fscks sake... |
| 20:25.10 | Leeds | need some Tom Lehrer? |
| 20:25.15 | Jenson | nope |
| 20:25.18 | Jenson | im alright |
| 20:26.06 | JD | bah |
| 20:26.08 | Clyphox | sheesh... |
| 20:26.12 | Jenson | ooooh and some Def Leppard |
| 20:26.23 | Jenson | and Stone Roses |
| 20:26.26 | Clyphox | Jenson: ever heard Tom Lehrer? |
| 20:26.39 | Clyphox | Jenson: Want a quickie? |
| 20:26.41 | JD | hmmm something reasonable? |
| 20:26.46 | Clyphox | Jenson: just a sampler.. |
| 20:26.57 | Leeds | Clyphox: watch your words... |
| 20:27.00 | JD | Clyphox: I though you were attached |
| 20:27.17 | JD | Jenson: what roses? |
| 20:27.26 | Jenson | JD: Begging You |
| 20:27.27 | Clyphox | JD: I come from Africa? |
| 20:27.43 | Jenson | Clyphox: You havent ever had a quickie? |
| 20:28.00 | Clyphox | I gotta go to the phone |
| 20:28.04 | Jenson | lol k |
| 20:28.09 | JD | isn't that a name for premature ejactulation? |
| 20:28.12 | Clyphox | Jenson: think my offer over.. pity you have a modem. |
| 20:28.26 | Jenson | JD: Technically could be considered that way I guess |
| 20:33.26 | Leeds | Weird Al! :-) |
| 20:33.46 | JD | is that as in Just Eat it? |
| 20:33.50 | Leeds | yeah... |
| 20:34.21 | JD | I nearly brought it |
| 20:35.47 | JD | Leeds: stop it |
| 20:36.02 | JD | no one gives a fuck |
| 20:36.30 | Jenson | the script kidde goth on #incantus changes track every 3 seconds or so, and thats annopying |
| 20:36.36 | Jenson | JD: That aint polite hon |
| 20:37.01 | Jenson | We should just all ddo that |
| 20:37.20 | Leeds | JD: chill |
| 20:43.59 | Leeds | no I'm not! |
| 20:44.21 | JD | Leeds: dammit |
| 20:44.30 | *** join/#gllug skugg (~stig@braut.plus.com) |
| 20:44.50 | Jenson | JD: LEave him alone yeh |
| 20:44.54 | Jenson | heya skugg |
| 20:45.19 | Leeds | CDDB - just because it's a French CD bought in Belgium of an Israeli/American singer singing in French and Hebrew, it gets it wrong |
| 20:45.30 | Leeds | JD: what's up? |
| 20:45.45 | Jenson | Leeds: One would expect that methinkls |
| 20:47.05 | Leeds | Jenson: why? it handles Hebrew CDs happily... leaves me unable to type the filenames, but still... |
| 20:52.52 | JD | night |
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| 20:53.53 | Jenson | Heya armijn |
| 20:54.52 | armijn | bwuhu, I've been battling XP all day :( |
| 20:55.21 | skugg | hi jenson |
| 20:55.40 | Jenson | armijn: what fun :| |
| 20:56.08 | armijn | no, not fun |
| 20:56.13 | armijn | but I got it working eventually |
| 20:56.53 | armijn | made the machine dual boot....Red Hat 9 was a lot easier |
| 20:57.33 | armijn | ah well, I guess that's life when you choose to admin |
| 20:57.49 | Jenson | yep |
| 20:58.44 | armijn | jenson: what do you know about that? |
| 20:59.16 | Jenson | I just watch ppl man aboout it |
| 20:59.21 | Jenson | s/man/moan |
| 21:00.09 | armijn | heh |
| 21:00.15 | armijn | ok :) |
| 21:02.31 | Jenson | Leeds: What, now? |
| 21:02.37 | Leeds | yeah, why not? |
| 21:02.44 | Jenson | well if you want to |
| 21:02.59 | Jenson | Anyway, I'm going to bed, gotta get up for work in the morning....hate that lol |
| 21:03.02 | Jenson | Night all |
| 21:03.11 | Leeds | gym is two minutes walk away, closes at 11 |
| 21:03.13 | Leeds | g'night |
| 21:03.15 | armijn | swimming... |
| 21:03.35 | armijn | Leeds: go for it |
| 21:03.55 | Leeds | I pay enough for the bloody gym that I don't use :-( |
| 21:04.11 | armijn | Leeds: so, what's keeping you here then? |
| 21:04.24 | Leeds | where here? |
| 21:04.29 | armijn | Leeds: on IRC |
| 21:04.44 | armijn | or do you have a waterproof machine? |
| 21:04.48 | Leeds | I just got in! went out to swap a couple of CDs with a friend :-) |
| 21:05.19 | Leeds | I can probably IRC from the gym with iPAQ and some fiddling with wireless areils :-) |
| 21:05.20 | Leeds | it's that close |
| 21:05.22 | armijn | no...too surreal |
| 21:06.08 | Leeds | I use my iPAQ to play audio-books on the bike/walking machine/rowing machine |
| 21:06.31 | Leeds | I need to get a speech synth for it so I can listen to text files... |
| 21:07.14 | armijn | like the Linux kernel source code... |
| 21:08.08 | armijn | "int i is ten" |
| 21:08.10 | Leeds | well... maybe :-) was thinking more books... webpages... magazines |
| 21:08.44 | Clyphox | Leeds: you exercise?! |
| 21:08.53 | Leeds | Clyphox: don't sound so bloody suprised! |
| 21:08.55 | armijn | Leeds: you better get going, or find a gym with a late license |
| 21:08.58 | Leeds | and the answer is... very occasionally |
| 21:09.21 | Leeds | armijn: it's open till 11... 2 minutes walk away... 30 mins swimming and a few minutes to shower/dress/undress |
| 21:09.48 | armijn | Leeds: if you don't dress, you can spend more minutes on IRC |
| 21:09.49 | Clyphox | I like swimming.. |
| 21:09.59 | Leeds | I don't need to dress much... |
| 21:10.04 | armijn | "life's all about priorities" |
| 21:12.12 | armijn | swimming is fun, but all the chlorid... |
| 21:12.17 | Leeds | yeah... |
| 21:14.07 | Leeds | it's GNOME, not Ximian... it's in S9... but not the version you've got... |
| 21:14.30 | armijn | hmmkay... |
| 21:14.50 | armijn | too bad then...wanted to fiddle a bit with Red Carpet |
| 21:15.03 | armijn | but can do that on Linux too... |
| 21:19.57 | Leeds | right... swimming |
| 21:20.02 | armijn | have fun |
| 21:23.09 | zachary | good night i'm off to bed |
| 21:23.16 | Clyphox | nn |
| 21:37.34 | *** part/#gllug armijn (~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl) |
| 21:54.29 | Clyphox | Has anyone here run remote X before? |
| 21:54.39 | Clyphox | Cause I want to run a remote X that I can also detach (like VNC) |
| 21:54.49 | Clyphox | and on top of that use "x0rfbserver" to choose whether I want to connect to it via VNC or X.. |
| 21:54.55 | Clyphox | Anyone got some advice? |
| 21:55.11 | Clyphox | I also want a packet of fries please.. |
| 22:01.10 | Leeds | absolutely I've run X |
| 22:01.50 | Leeds | remote X is very easy... depending on how you do it |
| 22:03.59 | Clyphox | Leeds: Goodie :-) |
| 22:04.26 | Clyphox | Leeds: I guesse I should learn each step at a time.. first run a plain remote X I guesse |
| 22:04.35 | Clyphox | Leeds: got any recommended reading? |
| 22:04.47 | Leeds | um... |
| 22:05.03 | Leeds | give me a moment to get a drink and take damp clothes off and all will become clear |
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| 22:07.30 | Leeds | back? |
| 22:13.43 | Clyphox | likewise |
| 22:14.52 | Clyphox | :-) |
| 22:17.51 | Clyphox | hello? |
| 22:17.58 | Leeds | yes... |
| 22:18.04 | Leeds | sorry, talking to my mum, on ICQ |
| 22:18.31 | Clyphox | hehe.. carry on if you want |
| 22:19.42 | Leeds | anyway... |
| 22:19.54 | Leeds | I can carry on two conversations at the same time... but need loo soon |
| 22:21.07 | Clyphox | I need to go get my coffee soon too.. just had to put SO too bed.. (not well) |
| 22:21.14 | Leeds | ah... |
| 22:21.38 | Leeds | does that just look like lots of ### to you? |
| 22:21.43 | Clyphox | yup |
| 22:21.48 | cupis | yes |
| 22:21.53 | Clyphox | xchat pluggin? |
| 22:22.04 | Leeds | yup |
| 22:22.10 | Leeds | Hebrew song title :-) |
| 22:37.20 | Leeds | Weird Al - Star Wars American Pie... can't remember the title |
| 22:41.25 | dankolb | Phantom Menace |
| 22:41.37 | Leeds | yeah... can't remember the title of the song... which is still on :-) |
| 22:41.54 | *** join/#gllug Clyphox2 (~root@195.137.107.7) |
| 22:42.01 | Clyphox2 | lol |
| 22:42.26 | Clyphox2 | For some reason I can't connect to IRC as a normal user anymore.. |
| 22:42.28 | *** join/#gllug alitniL (~rob@pc3-colc1-3-cust68.colc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 22:42.38 | Clyphox2 | Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.freenode.org port 6667 [Can't assign requested |
| 22:42.45 | Clyphox2 | address] |
| 22:42.46 | dankolb | Hm |
| 22:42.53 | Clyphox2 | Not my FW |
| 22:42.56 | dankolb | You've broken it |
| 22:42.58 | Leeds | dunno |
| 22:43.05 | Clyphox2 | I musta broken my system already |
| 22:43.09 | Leeds | yeah - you've broken freenode... not hard to do |
| 22:43.28 | Clyphox2 | freenode? |
| 22:43.40 | dankolb | irc.freenode.net |
| 22:43.53 | Leeds | the network you're using :-) |
| 22:44.09 | Clyphox2 | dankolb: I can't connect to other irc servers either... only as root |
| 22:44.39 | Leeds | I still love my xft-ed mozilla... and xchat... and xterm... and gaim... :-) |
| 22:44.58 | dankolb | You're broken |
| 22:45.17 | Clyphox2 | Leeds: ever used aterm? |
| 22:45.30 | Clyphox2 | Leeds: or psi maybe? |
| 22:45.38 | Leeds | no and no |
| 22:45.39 | Clyphox2 | I can't stay here as root much longer.. |
| 22:46.01 | dankolb | Yeah. Go sleep |
| 22:46.03 | Clyphox2 | aterm -transparent -sh 70 -tint blue |
| 22:46.13 | Clyphox2 | Hehe! |
| 22:46.37 | Clyphox2 | bbiam |
| 22:47.25 | dankolb | # Hooray for .... New Math |
| 22:48.09 | Leeds | I sent this song to the Israeli bloke I was teaching binary/octal maths to the other day :-) |
| 22:48.37 | dankolb | Excellent :) |
| 22:48.37 | Leeds | scared him, I think |
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| 22:48.43 | Clyphox | re |
| 22:48.47 | dankolb | re |
| 22:48.51 | dankolb | Isn't that Tom's PC? |
| 22:49.03 | dankolb | Or is that your London home one? |
| 22:50.12 | Clyphox | Yeah its my old server |
| 22:50.16 | Clyphox | duck.bsd.st |
| 22:50.22 | dankolb | :) |
| 22:51.24 | Clyphox | Darnit.. |
| 22:51.58 | Clyphox | This is officially my first problem with netbsd... I proberbly caused it tho |
| 22:52.57 | Clyphox | Ever used FLAC? |
| 22:53.08 | Clyphox | Free Lossless Audio Codec? |
| 22:53.51 | Leeds | nope, but plan to at some point |
| 22:57.07 | Leeds | it's the title song to Life is Beautiful... in Hebrew |
| 22:57.18 | A4266 | 'lo |
| 22:57.22 | dankolb | 'lo |
| 22:57.25 | Clyphox | alo |
| 23:00.15 | Leeds | evening |
| 23:00.56 | Clyphox | dankolb : do you remember how to turn autoignore off in BX? |
| 23:01.09 | dankolb | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:01.46 | A4266 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:01.49 | Clyphox | A4266 : did you "note" ? |
| 23:01.50 | A4266 | hehe |
| 23:02.02 | Clyphox | Yay |
| 23:02.10 | A4266 | note the above? |
| 23:02.27 | Clyphox | da :-) |
| 23:02.35 | dankolb | Use irssi |
| 23:02.44 | A4266 | yup |
| 23:03.44 | Leeds | Yay! |
| 23:03.57 | Leeds | I *am* still in the xmame documentation as the Unixware/X11 maintainer :-) |
| 23:04.04 | dankolb | :) |
| 23:04.47 | Clyphox | Wow! I love xmame |
| 23:04.47 | skugg | Leeds, ...only you're not? really? :) |
| 23:04.56 | Leeds | I am... |
| 23:05.13 | Leeds | I ported it to Unixware one lunchtime because I wanted to play it... sent in the patch ... |
| 23:05.18 | Leeds | ended up in the README :-) |
| 23:05.43 | Leeds | wasn't exactly a hard patch... Unixware is pretty much as straight-up-SVR4/5 as you can find... |
| 23:05.57 | Leeds | would be easy now - I'm a lot better at porting to UNIX :-) |
| 23:06.59 | skugg | Leeds, oh... i thought you meant it was weird that you were listed because you stopped _long_ ago... |
| 23:07.12 | skugg | or something along those lines |
| 23:07.27 | Leeds | yeah... I did stop long ago |
| 23:07.43 | Leeds | it's cool that I was ever in there... a little strange that I still am |
| 23:17.56 | Clyphox | ### ? |
| 23:18.04 | Leeds | ### |
| 23:18.12 | dankolb | ###### |
| 23:19.22 | Leeds | something between CDDB, my Perl ripping script and oggenc doesn't like Hebrew... so it just converted it to ### |
| 23:19.56 | Clyphox | I use lame |
| 23:19.57 | Clyphox | er |
| 23:19.59 | dankolb | nn all |
| 23:19.59 | Clyphox | grip |
| 23:20.06 | Leeds | night dan |
| 23:20.16 | Leeds | lame? for vorbis? how? |
| 23:25.37 | Clyphox | I meant grip |
| 23:25.43 | Clyphox | Ever heard of FLAC ? |
| 23:25.54 | Leeds | of course |
| 23:26.01 | Leeds | I did say so above :-) |
| 23:26.06 | Clyphox | soz.. |
| 23:27.14 | Leeds | I have... an eclectic mi |
| 23:27.15 | Leeds | mix |
| 23:28.27 | Clyphox | I just mpg321 -X /blerg/*/* |
| 23:32.32 | Leeds | I use xmms in X or mplayer for music on the console/ssh |
| 23:34.00 | Clyphox | tried the kjofol plugin? |
| 23:34.32 | Leeds | huh??? |
| 23:34.39 | skugg | Currently playing: "Iron_Maiden_-_Best_Of_The_Beast_-_07_-_Aces_High.ogg" |
| 23:35.09 | skugg | not quite the format leeds had there... |
| 23:35.58 | Clyphox | Leeds : there is a nice xmms kjofol plugin if you are intrested in skins without 90" angles everywhere.. |
| 23:36.06 | Leeds | not really... |
| 23:36.11 | Leeds | I live in xterms :-) |
| 23:36.33 | Clyphox | hehe |
| 23:36.40 | Clyphox | aterm looks nice |
| 23:36.49 | Leeds | don't like flashy strange-shaped things :-) my desktop look is a combination of NeXTstep and BeOS :-) |
| 23:37.22 | Leeds | most of the time, my xmms isn't actually on-screen... I use virtual desktops/screens agressively |
| 23:37.43 | Clyphox | I like to impress ppl... but then I live out of my screen/ssh session in the end of the day |
| 23:37.46 | skugg | i like desktops with one thing only on them... |
| 23:37.49 | skugg | in fullscreen. |
| 23:38.09 | Clyphox | I have 8 workspaces.. |
| 23:38.09 | Leeds | currently using 11 desktops... would be more if not for Mozilla tabs |
| 23:38.18 | Clyphox | hehe |
| 23:38.24 | Clyphox | I thought 8 was alot |
| 23:38.36 | skugg | i've only got about 5, methinks... |
| 23:38.48 | Leeds | not really... I have 16 configured, and I have been known to run out at work |
| 23:38.49 | skugg | but using screen in many of them |
| 23:39.00 | Clyphox | gkrellm is good.. there a nice xmms plugin |
| 23:39.36 | Leeds | got into gkrellm recently |
| 23:39.49 | skugg | anyway... goodnight people |
| 23:39.54 | Clyphox | gkrellm -w (under blackbox) :-) |
| 23:39.56 | Clyphox | nn skugg |
| 23:39.57 | Leeds | night skugg |
| 23:40.19 | Clyphox | Leeds : configured it to eject/mount your CD's yet? |
| 23:40.33 | Leeds | I very rarely use CDs :-) |
| 23:40.34 | Clyphox | Got lotsa nice flashy lights :-) |
| 23:40.58 | Leeds | anyway, bedtime, I think |
| 23:41.40 | Leeds | feeling nicely tired after swimming :-) |
| 23:42.02 | Leeds | BBC3 has lots of men in makeup on |
| 23:42.25 | Clyphox | nn |
| 23:43.17 | Clyphox | nn ppl.. |
| 23:43.24 | Clyphox | Think I'm gonna follow suite |
| 23:43.39 | A4266 | night bru |
| 23:45.07 | Clyphox | nn Al |
| 23:45.16 | Clyphox | :-( |
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