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07:04.08zacharygood morning
07:31.21murbmoin
08:05.28JDmorning
08:05.29JD1
08:05.41JDoops
08:10.18JDdankolb: ping
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08:11.48SPQR'lo
08:12.06dankolbMorning
08:12.13dankolbPayday!
08:12.43JDpaid last Friday :)
08:13.02dankolbHeh :)
08:13.18dankolbYou wanted something, sir?
08:15.52JDyeah
08:15.59JDwhat do you need on said laptop?
08:18.46dankolbOoh :) VMWare would be nice
08:20.28dankolbI have a laptop of the correct spec, unfortunately it's completely and utterly broken :(
08:21.21JDdo they still do 30 day trials?
08:22.01dankolbI have a licence for VMWare 2 and 3
08:22.25JDcool
08:22.41JDI may be able to supply a laptop
08:23.44dankolbExcellent if you could :)
08:24.19JDhas no floppy drive, only CD
08:24.25JDand network
08:25.18dankolbI can always write onto CD
08:30.03JDthat was weird started typing in caps without capslock on
08:31.03dankolbHeh
08:31.05dankolbShift key?
08:45.25JDnope
08:45.39JDalthough if fixed itself when I typed >
08:45.57JDso I might have done some weird typewriter type thing
08:56.35*** join/#gllug cup (~cup@host213-120-149-234.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
08:57.27dankolb:)
08:57.47dankolbOh fucking spam.
08:57.52dankolbSick and tired of your stupid friends getting high paying jobs
08:57.52dankolbbecause they have a degree?
08:58.01dankolbNO! I have a degree, dammit.
08:58.09dankolbAnd my friends aren't stupid.
08:58.18dankolbAnd surely, if you have a degree, you're not stupid.
08:58.19dankolbGrrrrr.
09:04.25JDdankolb: I have the same problem with the get a bigger penis spams :)
09:08.38dankolb"Sick and tired of your friends having a bigger penis than you"?
09:12.39JD[09:58] < dankolb> NO! I have a degree, dammit.
09:12.43JD:)
09:12.46dankolb:)
09:17.48dankolbhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=25618&item=2319165758&rd=1
09:19.59JDis it work friendly?
09:20.06dankolbyes
09:21.54JDstomach friendly: no
09:25.18dankolbYou wouldn't go on a date with one of them?
09:25.38JDstrangely no.
09:26.14dankolb:)
09:28.28dankolbBut...they're geeks
09:28.57JDibot: JD
09:29.09JDibot: ping
09:29.20dankolbibot unlobotomize
09:29.21JDwhat is up with ibot?
09:29.46dankolbibot unlobotomy
09:29.59JDibot: wake up dammit
09:30.47dankolbDid someone give him an lobotomy yesterday?
09:30.54dankolbIf so, a chanop needs to unlobotomise him
09:31.15JDare n't you an op?
09:31.18dankolbNo
09:31.23dankolbNot on this channel
09:31.27dankolbhighbury, zachary and Leeds are
09:33.14JD/msg chanserv op #gllug dankolb
09:33.40JDdankolb: type that
09:33.57dankolbOh. I didn't realise :)
09:34.00dankolbwhen did that happen?
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09:34.10dankolbibot unlobotomy
09:34.24dankolbibot ping
09:34.37JDdon't know , but can you give me access 10
09:36.07dankolbNot sure
09:37.48dankolbibot google for foo
09:37.59dankolbibot ibot
09:38.00i heard ibot is a blootbot now, no longer an infobot. run by BZFlag (TimRiker) on his server. see blootbot also http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ it uses SQLite but can use MySQL or other SQL for storage.
09:38.06dankolbThat sounds better
09:38.08dankolbibot dankolb
09:38.08i heard dankolb is a MacOS X user
09:38.18dankolbWoot.
09:38.21*** mode/#gllug [-o dankolb] by dankolb
09:39.25eye69Just came home...fucking jehovas at the door...
09:40.02dankolbI thought fucking in a public place was illegal?
09:40.09dankolbOr were they waiting to be let in?
09:40.20JDibot: JD
09:40.21hmm... jd is looking for a indie or nu-metaler geek girl, non-smoker
09:40.35JDdankolb: not the word geek in that
09:40.56JDnte
09:40.58JDnote
09:41.25dankolbYes. The eBay was to date a geek
09:43.17JDdammit how crap am I
09:43.25JDthe word of interest was girl
09:43.34dankolb:)
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09:46.44SPQRyou can date girls through eBay?
09:47.26JDnope, only geeks
09:48.04SPQReven better :)
09:49.29JDSPQR: male geeks
09:49.47SPQRdamn :(
09:49.50dankolbLook at the URL...
09:50.22SPQRbut they program games :)
09:50.48SPQRwhich url? *missed it*
09:50.51dankolbThere's a comp.sys.sinclair meet in Oxford next month some time
09:50.53dankolbhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=25618&item=2319165758&rd=1
09:52.14SPQRalready checked it out
09:57.18SPQRJD : Have ya checked this out? http://www.bride.ru/
09:57.54JDI would rather have a local gf
10:01.52SPQRJD: I think there are a few local girls on it. Haven't looked that far into it though..
10:02.53JDSPQR: local to you is not loccal to me
10:06.20SPQRJD : How local is local to you?
10:06.56JDSPQR: north of Luton
10:09.11SPQRJD : ok, that isn't local to me. Though ya never know what you'll find on there.
10:10.01SPQRI don't know how ppl can acctualy do that sorta thing though.. *lives a too seltered life*
10:17.13dankolb:)
10:17.21dankolbWhat sort of thing?
10:18.46JDmarry a russian bride
10:19.05JDthai etc
10:20.05SPQRnot the marrying bit, the bit where they're deperate enough to put themselfs up forsale
10:21.15JDSPQR: well it works the other way as well
10:21.29JDdesperate enough to buy a wife
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10:22.32nasratmorning all
10:23.39SPQRmornin#'
10:23.53SPQRJD L true. true
10:24.10SPQRPoor bastards.. Taking the easy way out...
10:25.36JDwhile the rest of us battle our way through rejection and other annoyances
10:26.29dankolbHi Paul
10:31.14nasratlo - last day today w00t
10:31.23dankolbGood for you :)
10:32.17murbnasrat: and you're fleeing tomorrow?
10:32.46nasratyup
10:42.17SPQRnasrat : where ya fleeing to?
10:45.16nasrat.it - holiday
10:45.47TarragonBack in time for Gllug? Where in .it?
10:46.11murbinit what?
10:46.29TarragonDamn - Sorry will turn Lurker status back on.
10:54.18JDTarragon: can I have ops?
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10:55.33*** mode/#gllug [+o JD] by Tarragon
10:55.39*** mode/#gllug [-o Tarragon] by Tarragon
10:57.03nasratTarragon: get back same day as gllug
10:58.54dankolbHow do you run UML as a user, and get networking to work?
10:59.04dankolbIt works for me as root, but when I run it as a user I get:
10:59.09dankolbifconfig eth0 192.168.128.96 broadcast 192.168.128.255 netmask 255.255.255.0
10:59.09dankolbTUNSETIFF failed, errno = 1SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not permitted
10:59.10dankolbSIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
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11:04.02JDTarragon: I kinda mean via chanserv
11:04.06JDbut thatnks
11:28.40nasratdankolb: need to change permissions on /dev/net/tun IIRC either use a group or 666 it
11:28.47dankolbDone that
11:29.05dankolb[root@umltest uml]# ls -l /dev/net/tun
11:29.05dankolbcrw-rw-rw-    1 root     uml       10, 200 Jan 30 05:24 /dev/net/tun
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12:20.03unclexlo
12:20.28unclexhas anyone seen formi
12:20.38dankolbibot seen formi
12:20.38formi <~formi@usr395-har.blueyonder.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 1d 17h 2m 56s ago, saying: 'see ya'.
12:22.29unclexcya
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12:28.53TarragonHurrah! Germany has a Bank holiday tomorrow. A whole day without stupid phone calls. And I get to ignore them on Monday as well.
12:29.34dankolbGood for you, Tarragon
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12:42.13nasratdankolb: still having tun problems?  Try unloading the module, then chmod, then loading the tun module
12:42.59dankolbI think I need to create the tun device with the uid of the 'uml' user
12:43.02dankolbtunctl -u uml
12:47.54SPQRhey resuDaed_
12:58.05resuDaed_hey SPQR
13:18.35JDanyone around?
13:19.16dankolbYEah
13:19.57JDresuDaed_ssh: debmirror is good for that
13:20.06resuDaed_sshdebmirror
13:20.38JDyes debmirror
13:20.50JDare you just going to repeat random words?
13:21.35dankolbYes repeat
13:23.26murbdebmirror is an rsync script?
13:24.48JDhmmm  ice cream
13:26.16JDmurb: ftp
13:28.06JDice cream van stops right outside where I work :)
13:28.56murbJD: oh i rsync debian.
13:30.30JDnot much point
13:31.19murbwhy not?
13:31.27murbit makes installs very much faster.
13:35.11JDbecause debian mirrors are not particularly rsync friendly
13:35.19JDthey are however ftp friendly
13:38.11murbJD: how are they rsync unfriendly?
13:38.46JDbecause files in debian mirrors do not change (apart from Packages and Sources)
13:38.53JDbut new files get added
13:39.16JDand old deleted
14:01.27JDoh power glitch
14:05.33resuDaed_sshmy local hub, my box & monitor are all on ups, and can run for around 45 mins when power drops ... laptop - well it has a bettery
14:10.39resuDaed_sshdoes anyone have a logo something along the lines of 'powered by debian' ?
14:12.40dankolbWhy would you want one? ;-)
14:14.31nasratibot google for debian logos
14:15.34JDchucking down with rain now
14:15.50JD50min ago I was eating ice cream
14:16.24JDs/rain/weather/
14:16.59nasratJD aren't they equivalent in certain cities :)
14:17.18dankolbIt chucked it down here for all of 2 mins
14:18.27zacharybbl, hour or so
14:23.32SPQRits hasn't started chucking down here yet
14:23.49SPQR*s/its/it
14:25.10SPQRlooks like it might be heavy when it decides to
14:30.19murbwhy?
14:30.45JDbecause she asked for one
14:31.10nasratJD write a sonnet
14:31.47dankolbStart with nmap
14:32.10resuDaed_sshdankolb : yep, got that one
14:32.15JDdankolb: I don't think she would appriciate a port scan
14:32.24resuDaed_sshfirst fault is the fact that it allows telnet logins
14:32.30JDa sonnet may be a better idea
14:32.47dankolbHeh
14:33.06dankolbSo that's be where I went wrong!
14:33.07JDibot: google for love sonnet
14:33.28dankolbPlagiarise?
14:33.42JDeasier than trying to think something up
14:34.07dankolbyeah
14:34.29JDbesides it isn;t if I attribute it
14:35.48JDShakespeares 18th sonnet:
14:35.55JDSHALL I compare thee to a summer's day?
14:35.55JD<PROTECTED>
14:35.56JDThou art more lovely and more temperate:
14:36.00dankolbYeah, that's the one
14:36.06JDRough winds do shake the darling buds of May,
14:36.13JDAnd summer's lease hath all too short a date;
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14:37.58JDhi Leeds
14:38.08Leedshi
14:38.27Leedsa sonnet???
14:38.50SPQRisn't that a type of song/poem?
14:39.14Leedsmay I suggest sonnets.org?
14:40.01JDpoetry, 14 lines abab rhyming
14:40.07JDyou know the sort of thing
14:41.05SPQRya, I remember what it is now.
14:41.14SPQRBeen to long since I was last at school...
14:41.27SPQRShe must be 1 hell of a customer ;)
14:41.49JDgod celerons are tiny
14:42.20Leedsnegative calorie too...
14:42.22JDshe is very nice
14:44.18SPQRjust nice? You're doing all this for just nice? :P
14:44.53JDSPQR: she does live near chelmsford
14:45.11JDgiven that this CPU is so small the heatsink and fan is massive
14:45.18JDI don't think I've seen one bigger
14:47.54resuDaed_sshJD : wht you don't think you've seen a woman bigger :--P
14:48.42JDno the heatsink
14:48.58resuDaed_ssh:-)
14:49.34resuDaed_sshHow do I send an EOF to a printer>
14:49.35resuDaed_ssh?
14:50.08JDecho ctrl-v ctrl-l > /dev/lp0
14:50.13resuDaed_ssh(ie when I send text to the printer, it sits and waits for me to press a button to tell it the job has finished
14:50.48JDor ctrl-d instead of l
14:50.57JDor try z
14:51.21resuDaed_sshJD : I have no physical access to the printer atm, but when I do get to it, I need all the things I send on different pages
14:51.36resuDaed_ssh(ie printer is 13 miles from here :-)
14:51.56resuDaed_sshits an HP 4L (LJ) if that helps
14:55.22nasratresuDaed_ssh: how are you printing ( traditional lp, lprng, cups)?
14:55.50resuDaed_sshnasrat : lpr
14:56.07resuDaed_sshbasically, the only thing I have configured is a filter that fixes CRLFs
14:56.22resuDaed_sshI havn't as yet managed to get postscript working (although is a PS printer)
15:19.36dankolbHail!
15:21.23dankolbBloody weather.
15:23.54SPQRhail??
15:23.58dankolbYes
15:24.02dankolbLittle balls of ice
15:24.26SPQRI know what hail is :P I've seen them the size od rrgs b4 :P
15:24.34SPQRs/og/of
15:25.15resuDaed_sshapparantly a customer is trying to send a file over ftp, and the connection is apparantly breaking or timing out halfway through, any suggestions as to why/solutions?
15:25.28resuDaed_sshconnection is 512/256
15:34.57dankolbTheir network is shit?
15:35.07dankolbThey're on dynamic IP that changes?
15:35.22resuDaed_sshdankolb : could easily be, but it's on my head to fix it or offer a repetidly feasible solution
15:35.28JDdankolb: someone is pressing cancel?
15:35.36dankolbThat too
15:35.46JDbbl
15:36.02dankolbHeh
15:36.04dankolbHave fun
15:36.39JD15min there, 15min back
15:36.44JDso back by 5:30
15:37.33dankolbAh.
15:37.38dankolbNot putting yourself into storage?
15:37.44dankolbWell, see you tomorrow, then
15:37.45dankolbProbably
15:37.55resuDaed_sshdankolb : you got any suggestions that I could offer for the short term?
15:38.14dankolbUse scp
15:38.38resuDaed_sshdankolb : they don't have shell access to the server for security purposes
15:38.52dankolbBah
15:38.53resuDaed_sshthey are allowed to play with ftp/http/https only
15:38.56dankolbAnd FTP is secure?
15:39.14resuDaed_sshno, but someone hacking their account isn't our responsibility
15:39.19resuDaed_ssh:-)
15:39.56dankolbHeh
15:40.25resuDaed_sshis there anyway we can offer some sort of resume transfer facility?
15:40.25nasratresuDaed_ssh: webdav
15:40.37murbwebdav/ssl
15:41.28murbapache_mod_auth_mysql doesn't seem to let you specify custom selects :(
15:41.34nasratmurb: mod_auth_pam
15:41.42resuDaed_sshis there anyway they can resume an ftp transfer?
15:43.35murbnasrat: these aren't real users.
15:43.41murbso no mysql nss crap
15:43.52nasratmurb: then right a pam_vmail_sql mod
15:45.23murbnasrat: there must be a generic apache mod auth perl i can use then i just need to use perl dbi and can do wha ti want easily.
15:46.42nasratah yes that's true too
15:48.34nasratApache::AuthenDBI?
15:48.45nasrathttp://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/security.html
15:53.45nasratmurb: actually Apache::AuthzDBI
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16:01.17resuDaed_sshok, seriously ... from a Win32 box, how can I resume broken ftp transfers? (can the windows ftp command do this?)
16:01.58Leedsncftp for windows?
16:02.21resuDaed_sshLeeds : user friendly? (it's not me using it)
16:02.50dankolbIt has tab-completion
16:02.56dankolbHow much more user-friendly do you want?
16:03.14resuDaed_sshwindows user: "whats tab completion?"
16:05.03murbright you're in word you want to find the next workd you shoudl type you hti tab
16:05.27resuDaed_sshmurb : tbh, I don't think I'll meantion the tab auto-completion
16:05.57sashMaking Windows Like Unix:
16:06.14sashTab Completion- http://www.fuzzygroup.com/writing/windowstabcompletion.htm
16:07.00SPQRhttp://www.webmasterfree.com/leech.html  ftp client maybe?
16:08.40sashZillaFTP: http://www.zillaftp.com/
16:11.12Tarragonhttp://www.delorie.com/djgpp/ Bash for Windows?
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16:13.06sashre
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16:13.23zacharyhi sash
16:15.21Leedsncftp is like the standard command-line FTP client, only nicer
16:19.14TarragonIsn't Norton Commander a rip off of mc :-)
16:19.45SPQRotherway round I thought ;)
16:20.59nasratwell I'm going to logout now - see ppl in a few weeks
16:22.06dankolbRight. I think I'll head off
16:22.20dankolbShould definitely be back Friday evening
16:22.37dankolbMight be around at other times, I don't know
16:23.14TarragonWe will be here waiting.
16:23.20dankolbGood :)
16:27.38LeedsTarragon: you're back!  where've you been hiding?
16:29.00sashTarragon sounds like a character from the Lord of the Onion Rings.
16:31.21Leedsheh
16:36.51JDgit
16:37.51JDbugger
16:40.15sashWon't the celebs be disappointed.
16:40.22SPQRheh
16:41.14SPQRthat reminds me. Whats that new sci fi horrow thats been released?
16:42.25SPQRThe one with all the ppl and the and animals and the dying and stuff
16:43.38Leedsdreamcatcher
16:44.10SPQRthats the 1. I'm gonna try and watch it this week end :)
16:44.23SPQRohh, its a monkey's wedding outside!!
16:44.29Leeds??????
16:44.58Leedsmonkey's wedding
16:45.00Clyphoxohh
16:45.00Leeds?
16:45.10SPQRraining and the suns out at the same time
16:45.14ClyphoxLeeds: Raining whilst the sun if out
16:45.26SPQRyo Bru
16:45.39Clyphoxwa 'gwan
16:46.03Leedsnever heard of that in my life...
16:46.23JDLeeds: thats cos you come from up norf
16:46.29SPQRhmm... not to suprised. Bit b4 ya time :P
16:46.41SPQRthat as well ;)
16:47.58Leedsbefore my time and not in my area... oh well
16:51.36JDmuch like ADSL is here
17:12.05LeedsHail...
17:18.35JDah no rain
17:18.37JDhome time
17:24.15Leedsyeah
17:24.18SPQRhome time for me 2.
17:24.20SPQRlaterz
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17:39.20formihello
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17:41.49irvined_Evening all
17:42.05formihi irvined
17:42.17formihow was the wine ?
17:42.51zacharyevening formi
17:43.02formihi zach
17:43.32formihow's things?
17:43.52zacharypretty good.
17:44.10zacharydaughter is getting shots tomarrow :(
17:44.39formiyou haven't got your head out of the windows and watched the sky
17:44.55formishots? will she be rioting?
17:47.44zacharyonly if the doc misses
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17:54.12JensonBRB
17:56.08formiim having a weird problem again
17:56.35formii cannot connect to pluton.irc-hispano.org neither to their site
18:01.57JDhi all
18:02.08formiulo
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18:04.29JDhi Leeds
18:04.36Leedshey
18:04.58Leedsso, I apparently just drove home on a flat :-( 80mph down the M1 in the rain...
18:06.12Leeds:-(
18:06.27formii fuc*ing can't believe this
18:07.11Leedsformi: what?
18:08.56formiblueyonder dns servers are crapping out
18:09.18JDuse someone elses
18:09.30formithey don't seem to resolve many .es domains
18:09.43formiim using pipex at the mo
18:09.57Leedsuse your own?
18:10.07formii do
18:10.35formieven though i was using blueyonder's as forwarders
18:10.47JDyou could just use root
18:10.55Leedsyeah... that's what I meant
18:11.05JDcomment out the forwarder section and restart bind
18:11.10JDassuming you are using bind
18:11.28formii did try in the past to ssh-tunnel to the box i run. for some reason i didn't manage to get it working
18:11.59JDcould you not set up a vpn
18:12.02formiwell i considered that, but I don't think is very "polite"
18:12.18JDusing roots is not polite?
18:12.42formii suppose they already have a big enough load
18:12.44Leedsit's not recommended for end-users... but it's allowable
18:12.44JDthat is all blueyonder would do
18:13.05LeedsJD: yeah, but blueyonder have a much bigger field to cache - less overall traffic
18:13.25formiLeeds: you took the words out of my mouth
18:13.54formiLeeds: by already allows inmense amounts of spam
18:13.55JDLeeds: how likely is it that BY have cached the domain that formi wants
18:14.04formia lot
18:14.11formibecause i connect everyday
18:14.16LeedsJD: over 10s of thousands of users? pretty decent
18:14.32Leedsokay, .es less so... but still, on average...
18:15.04formithere are a lot of bloody iberians in this country
18:15.57JDno hablo espanol
18:17.27formiyo tampoco
18:17.43JDprobably
18:19.39formii said "me neither"
18:19.56Leedsyou don't have Spain?
18:20.28formiLeeds: have you smoked something not legal?
18:20.41Leedsnope - that's your job
18:20.48formino
18:21.16JDLeeds: is espanol, spain or spanish?
18:21.18formiJD: you shouldn't congratulate yourself too much
18:21.29LeedsJD: I have no idea :-)
18:21.31formiJD: castellano
18:21.33JDformi: why not?
18:21.50JDLeeds: I'll give you a clue: it isn't spain
18:21.59LeedsFrance?
18:22.10JDaiui espana is spain
18:22.24formimanaging to put 3 words together in a foreign language is not to be given a nobel prize
18:23.18JDformi: esp considering what I said
18:25.46formiEngland must be the only country appart from the u$ where people seem to take pride in only speaking 1 language
18:25.47JDNo puedo hablar español
18:26.09formiJD: copying and pasting is cheating
18:26.18JDformi: I can get by in a frence speaking country
18:26.30JDformi: the first one I knew
18:26.49JDthe second was C+P, but is closer to what I wanted to say
18:27.09JDI can not is better then I do not
18:27.20resuDaed_sshdoes anyone know why port 1002 would be open, as far as I can tell, there is no process assigned to that port ... any suggestions?
18:27.22JDthe latter sounds like I can, but don't want to
18:27.35JDresuDaed_ssh: netsta -aep --inet
18:27.44JDnetstat
18:27.53Leedsnetstat -lp
18:28.02formiresuDaed I craked the machine
18:28.18resuDaed_sshaccording to that, port 1002 isn't open, but according to nmap it is
18:28.24resuDaed_sshformi : ??
18:28.37JDwhat happens if you telnet to the port?
18:29.02resuDaed_sshJD : it times out, or if I type anything, the connection is closed
18:29.51formiresuDaed_ssh: ££
18:29.51JDcould the box be compremised?
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18:30.31resuDaed_sshpossibly, as I have only taken the box over in the last couple of days
18:30.39Jensonhiya Tom
18:30.44resuDaed_ssheven so, there must be a service or porcess assigned to it
18:30.46resuDaed_sshhey Jenson
18:30.54JDhi Jenson
18:31.14Jensonheya JD
18:32.00JDresuDaed_ssh: has it been rebooted recently?
18:32.19resuDaed_sshI am getting the error message (Not all processes could be identified, you would have to be root to see it all (I am root!!)
18:32.28resuDaed_sshJD : 20 days uptime atm
18:32.41resuDaed_sshit's a RaQ4 box if that gives you any clues
18:32.53LeedsresuDaed_ssh: try as admin?
18:33.37resuDaed_sshadmin is unprivilaged apart from the ability to administer all sites, add users and the like
18:33.59Leedsif admin can add users, admin is somewhat special
18:34.06resuDaed_sshbut not root
18:34.08Jensonfucking hell, this house is freezing
18:34.35LeedsresuDaed_ssh: grab chkrootkit and run it...
18:38.07Jensonstill freezing but n/m
18:38.47JensonIs Alex saying he is bedding or what, I'm sure my rabbit would enjoy sleeping on him
18:48.52formiJenson: do drop the rabbit talk!!
18:49.58Jensonformi: I'm talking about a regular animal rabbit
18:50.32formiyou know how people like to read something where there is nothing
18:50.54Jensonyeh formi, that would be you darling :D
18:53.32forminot the only one here, darling
18:54.24Jensonwell, if I'd wanted to read anything ito bed and Alex, you'd damn well have known it
18:54.38formihelp: I have done a man XF86Config and checked, I think there was an option for X to avoid it scanning all the pci devices, but I can't find it,
18:54.48formiam i chasing ghosts ??
18:59.19resuDaed_sshhome time
19:40.19zacharyformi: I would think that it would be a command line option.
19:41.31formi<formi>  -scanpci
19:41.32formi<formi>                When  this option is specified, the X server scans the PCI bus,
19:41.32formi<formi>                and prints out some information  about  each  device  that  was
19:41.32formi<formi>                detected.
19:41.32formi<formi> it seems to do it by default, when no -scanpci has been specified
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20:25.32Jensonheya guys
20:30.41Jensonis everybody asleep or something?
20:54.13Leedsugh
20:54.42Leedschanging a tyre in the rain
20:55.49Leedscheers
20:56.59LeedsI only went out in a t-shirt... it was dry, and I knew I was going to sweat...
20:57.50Jensonwhere were you gouing
20:59.10Leedsto change a tyre...
20:59.17LeedsI drove home on it flat
20:59.23Leedswithout really noticing...
21:00.19Jensoni see
21:00.23Jensonits raining here too
21:00.36Jensonnot that ive been outside since it started about 5:30 lol
21:00.38murboh dear
21:00.41murbi escaped the rain
21:02.36LeedsI think I got your rain on me too
21:02.42Leedsliterally like taking a shower
21:03.12JensonLeeds: Go change into dry clothes, clingy wet clothes are irritating
21:03.21LeedsI'm in a bathrobe
21:04.39A4266evenin
21:04.45Jensonevening Al
21:05.02A4266'allo Becks :)
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21:08.36Jensonhi Paul
21:08.46cupishi Jenson
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21:14.07Jensonhey mijny babe
21:14.30armijnhiya
21:15.11Jensondamn, i should not have spent like a half hour on the phone trying to make the hole in my sock bigger, coz now i have a big hole in my sock lol
21:15.25armijnjust one hole?
21:15.28Jensonyeh
21:15.33armijnI've got two socks with big holes.
21:15.37armijnha!
21:15.41Jensonlol
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21:19.30Jensoni better be getting to bed, otherwise i'll be dead at work tomorrow
21:19.32Jensonnight guys
21:20.41armijncu
21:20.42cupisnight Jenson
21:20.55armijndead people aren't that productive
21:21.42Jensonarmijn: Nor are we lol
21:21.43Jensonnight cupis
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21:22.40armijnI'm productive...
21:28.03JDI would get on better if I could get my modem working under linux
21:28.11JDor just some sort of internet connection
21:28.21JDand a fast link to work would be cool too
21:28.48armijnand caffeine?
21:28.58armijnnever underestimate caffeine
21:29.07JDcupis: 802.11 hopefully
21:29.19cupiscool. b?
21:29.38JDcupis: probably
21:29.48JDg would be cooler, ut we already have a b AP
21:31.33JDanyone know a cheap method of programming under wnindows
21:31.41JDwithout buying Visual Studio
21:31.49cupiscygwin
21:32.11JDI would rather write native windows apps
21:32.19JDI could just do everything in perl
21:32.22JDor python
21:32.32cupisOld version of borland etc IDE's from magazine coverdiscs?
21:32.42cupisactivestate
21:32.44armijnor program for linux
21:32.50JDwe have a copy of VS6 at work
21:32.57JDarmijn: I may need to do both
21:33.00Leedsmingw
21:33.23armijnheh, cygwin + mingw is a good choice
21:33.25Leedsmingw like cygwin without the emulation layer
21:33.31JDmingw probably doesn't help with writing all that crap that is required in a windows app
21:33.50JDmingw == gcc on windows I kow
21:33.57JDI did think about that
21:34.09armijnMono? Java?
21:34.25JDibot: kill armijn
21:34.26ACTION slits armijn's throat
21:34.34armijnhrmpf
21:35.01armijn(mental not: never be helpful to people again)
21:35.04JDibot: kill paramedic
21:35.06ACTION slits paramedic's throat
21:35.38cupisthe air strike destroys Birmingham
21:35.45armijnoh gosh, he had belgian beer again...
21:35.56Leedsbeer...
21:36.05JDarmijn: I don't recall laughing that night
21:36.05cupismmmm, beer...
21:36.15cupisJD: you were laughing in your sleep
21:36.20JDand I have a load downstairs
21:37.19armijnheh, I recall JD nearly falling asleep...
21:37.23JDvery tempting
21:37.30armijnbritish geeks...not used to strong beer
21:37.37JDbut not laughing :)
21:37.39Leedsha ha
21:37.47JDarmijn: no one warned me
21:37.59JDarmijn: if someone had, I could have prepared
21:38.14cupisJD: yeah, yeah. You were the victim, yada, yada.
21:38.21armijnthe first sip should have warned you it was not lager
21:38.24JDcupis: I was
21:38.32JDarmijn: I don't drink lager
21:38.41armijns/lager/ale/
21:38.45armijns/lager/bitter/
21:40.29JDbah
21:40.34cupisibot: seen pdr?
21:40.35pdr <~pdr@www.pewtersystems.pdr.me.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 11d 6h 40m 59s ago, saying: 'hi dummy '.
21:40.57JDhmmm
21:41.10JDanyone gota phone number for pdr?
21:41.46murbmaybe they get fed up?
21:41.55murbor go on holiday
21:42.00JDof irc? don't be stupid
21:42.07cupisor just taking a break.
21:42.25cupisI need to speak to him, so I'll mail him at some point.
21:43.06cupisHe might have been deported to .au
21:43.52JDdoes he hold a bristish passport?
21:43.52armijnhopefully not, he's supposed to be in NL end of may
21:44.07cupisJD: I think so,.
21:44.28cupisJD: iirc, he does have dual-nat, I've seen two passports of his...
21:45.08armijndual NAT?
21:45.23cupisarmijn: no
21:45.47JD[22:44] * JD thought he had dual nationality
21:45.57cupishmmm.
21:46.18cupis* ibot slits paramedic's throat
21:46.27armijndual NATing is funnier though
21:47.16JDthat isn't against the geneva convention
21:47.25JDthis isn't a war situation
21:47.37JDplain double murder
21:48.01cupisit's the war on bots
21:48.15cupisor the war on the internet
21:48.35Leedstough on bots, tough on the causes of bots
21:48.39cupisor something, I forget. Changes every week or two. Maybe it's the war on terrorism again.
21:48.39JDnah just double murder
21:48.57JDwell attempted murder cos armijn is still alive
21:49.02LeedsWar on Syria next, isn't it?
21:49.09JDmurb: only ibot has killed anyone
21:49.14armijnLeeds: nah, UK...
21:49.29armijnUK has nucular weapons...and other weapons of mass destruction
21:49.39JDwoulld be france first
21:49.41cupisLeeds: hmmm, UK first, becuase we wno't support Syria. Then Syria, then a peace treaty with N.Korea...
21:49.47JDand/or cis
21:49.53Leedssurely France comes before UK?
21:50.01cupisLeeds: in the alphabet?
21:50.21Leedsin the order of countries to make war on
21:50.40cupisLeeds: hmm, methink France might be left alone/forgotten
21:51.28JDcupis: I doubt it
21:51.34JDtrade war etc
21:51.46Leedsfreedom fries, etc.
21:51.51JDusa won't leave france alone#
21:52.01JD2those frence twats"
21:52.32murbhmm i though Syria just said that it though that the middle east should be a WMD free zone or somthing.
21:52.47murbanyaway it is nearly mayday, who wants to beat up some coppers?
21:53.01Leedsmurb: what's WMD got to do with anything?
21:53.09cupisssyria would say that
21:53.35JD(in iraq)
21:53.38cupismurb: you've got nothing productive to do?
21:53.44armijnhmm, is the Oxford dictionairy online?
21:53.50JDprobably not until USA have had time to ship some over
21:53.54LeedsJD: there certainly were
21:54.09armijnI need to look up if a certain verb exists...
21:54.20JDLeeds: where?
21:54.28cupisarmijn: I think you have to register. try oup.co.uk?
21:54.42JDLeeds: I think some members of the US administration would love o know the details
21:54.43cupisJD: years ago...
21:54.49murbLeeds: hmm peopel were talking about wapsons of mass distruction and mentioned Syria
21:54.52cupis... in a galaxy far far away
21:54.53LeedsJD: in Iraq... assuming you include chemical stuff
21:55.06JDLeeds: I mean atm
21:55.11murbis saddam still hiding on top of the WMD in Iraq?
21:55.14JDLeeds: I know there was
21:55.16LeedsJD: I said *were*
21:55.22murbwhat was the correct Putin quote?
21:55.34JDLeeds: mea culpa then
21:55.43cupis_the_ correct quote?
21:55.45murbanyway i still thing MSS should have his own tv show
21:55.56murbcupis: rather than what i just said.
21:55.58JDbut I wold find it rather amusing (but not much considering the suffer) if there were not any now
21:56.20JDwould make bush look even more of a twat than he is
21:56.23Leedsarmijn: try http://www.askoxford.com/
21:56.28murbJD: they'll plant somthing rather than admit to that.
21:56.45cupisJD: I thought his WMD had been released in Asia/Japan and Toronta, Canada?
21:56.46JDmurb: [22:53] <@JD> probably not until USA have had time to ship some over
21:56.51cupisor was that someone elses?
21:57.03JDcupis: that was chinas
21:57.16armijnhmm, I don't think french fries actually have got anything to do with France
21:57.35cupisJD: ah, and there was me hoping for a Twelve Monkeys scenary. Or 28 days...
21:57.37JDno more than hambugers probably
21:57.47armijnwell...frenched fries perhaps?
21:58.05JDcupis: creepy long haired bloke in an airport/
21:58.13armijndoes that make sense
21:58.13armijn?
21:58.49JDfor one of
21:59.02cupisJD: you don't _have_ to
21:59.08murbsome of the new gerrymandered wards arround here have one candiate andone seat.
21:59.19Leedsarmijn: I think they're french fried potatoes
21:59.36Leedsi.e. fried in the French manner
21:59.42murbI'm in 3 seets and a choice of tory*3 labwar*1 and libdem*1
22:00.03JDcupis: no, but I probably should
22:00.08murb*French* ?
22:00.15murboh and no election for parish council
22:00.19JD3 seats?
22:00.24cupisJD: True.
22:00.26murbbut then they are just clique
22:00.36JDmurb: I've got no parish eliection, but that is a good thing for me
22:00.42armijnhttp://www.belgianfries.com/index.cfm?Module=histor1
22:00.48JDas it means I get in without the trouble of a vote
22:00.48murbJD: why?
22:01.00JD11 stood for 13 seats
22:01.02murbwhy do you want to be a parish councilor?
22:01.12JDoh that question why
22:01.17murbthey are bastards and coopt their friends
22:01.19armijnflood!
22:01.21armijnIn fact, the explanation is quite simple: in English, 'to french' means (or at least meant) 'to cut into lengthwise pieces'. You probably know 'frenched beans'. So logically, French Fries is short for 'frenched and fried potatoes'.
22:01.26JDaverage age of current parsih council is 89
22:01.38murband are trying to put in fucking stupid entrance to the village gates and other crap
22:01.45armijnso, got nothing to do with France...and therefore, all the "freedom fries" stuff is BS
22:01.47JDand full of pompus twats
22:02.00murbwe don't need people to micromange the grass cuting etc.
22:02.07JDmurb: most of the current council nominated each other
22:02.14murbget upset when bt leave some telegraph polls in for toolong etc.
22:02.21Leedsparish - isn't that something to do with the Church?
22:02.49Leedsarmijn: at least Belgians and Dutch know how to eat chips :-)
22:03.00murbLeeds: no they are secular parishes since atleast the 1880s
22:03.41Leedsstill sounds like a church thing to me...
22:04.02armijnleeds: depends...the belgians use animal fat to fry them, dutch use vegetable stuff (although in belgium it's changing)
22:04.20JDMcDonalds used beef tallow
22:04.22Leedsarmijn: I didn't mean that... I meant with mayo :-)
22:04.24murbeek sane enough to be killed what a concept.
22:04.32JDstill do in USAiirc
22:04.34murbnews night.
22:04.36armijnleeds: the belgian and dutch mayo is very different
22:04.54armijndutch mayo contains more sugar
22:05.50armijnheh
22:06.35JDLeeds: whayt about mayo though?
22:06.43Leedsha bloody ha
22:06.45Leedsibot lart JD
22:07.31JDw00t I have a PDA ?
22:08.11JDgrrrrrrr
22:08.30Leedsjust for you :-)
22:09.03armijnheh, so, frenched fries, not french fries...
22:09.37armijnso this whole "freedom fries" thing is just more proof that merkans have no decent knowledge of english
22:09.46armijnamen.
22:09.49Leedsarmijn: like you need any?
22:10.06armijnno comment, I'm not a native speaker :)
22:10.59armijnat least, I am a native speaker, but not in English (for?)
22:11.12Leedsmaybe of
22:11.34armijnsee?
22:11.43armijnQED
22:12.19Leedsoooh... Latin!
22:12.43JDLeeds: no, QED
22:12.52Leedsthe TV show?
22:13.01JDno more a use f latin than AD
22:13.23JDor AM
22:13.42JDor may of the other latin acronyms
22:13.49LeedsJD: not big on the noticing jokes recently, are we
22:14.09armijnand? any luck with the females?
22:14.12JDLeeds: no
22:14.19JDme?
22:14.20JDnope
22:17.02armijnfor using latin...to impress females...
22:17.20armijnso people think you're an "intellectual"
22:18.12armijnI usually scare those people away by wearing a Motorhead shirt...very effective
22:29.47JDwe had to learn some stuff for my degree
22:30.01JDpart of "professional developmnt
22:30.24armijnah well
22:32.01armijnno one's perfect
22:32.11JDstuff like inter alia, mea culpa etc
22:33.31JDAntiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.
22:34.36armijnuh-huh
22:34.46armijnlatin has been too long ago for me
22:35.27JDin the gold old days, children like oyu would have been left on wind swept crags
22:36.24Tarragon..would have been left to perish on exposed hills (rocks)...surely
22:37.21JDroughlythe exact text I have for that is
22:37.26JDIn the good old days, children like you were left to perish on windswept crags.
22:37.58JDso I forgot the perish
22:38.01armijnanyway, in those days they did evil stuff
22:38.26JDNihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
22:38.28JDI'm not interested in your dopey religious cult
22:38.37JDyou should recognise that one
22:39.59armijnnah, as I said, it was a loooong time ago for me
22:41.48armijnhmm, Red Carpet is pretty funky
22:43.56TarragonNobody cares for your foolish superstitions - surely
22:47.24armijnhmm...Scott McNealy coming to NL in june...should nag my contacts at Sun to arrange interview ;)
22:47.51murbcool assassination opptinuty
22:49.41armijnnah
22:52.02armijnah well, bedtime for me...
22:52.17armijncu
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23:01.20Leedsooh... Mayday
23:01.25murbyeah.
23:01.29irvined_yeah just around the corner
23:01.29murbtime to attack the police
23:01.43irvined_i'm a bit fed up about mayday the passed 2 years i've had somthing on thats fubared my plans.
23:01.47murbis anyone else on that city of london planning contingency list?
23:01.54irvined_contingency list?
23:01.57murbthey recomend you watch sky news to know what is going on.
23:02.17irvined_i had planned on cycling lots onfriday but i've got to go home to vote so wont be down on time :(
23:02.21murbirvined: yeah details are hiden somewhere on http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk
23:02.45murbirvined: hmm couldn't you have gotten a postal or proxy vote?
23:03.10irvined_murb: yeah but i wasnt organised enough
23:03.36irvined_not sure if i could trust anybody to vote for me or the royal mail to deliver
23:05.06murbI'm not sure the random council works can count!
23:16.06murbivined: so you've not seen BCNs new pricings?

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