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06:37.53TarragonMorning
07:37.03*** join/#gllug zachary (~zachary@host217-35-7-124.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
07:37.13zacharygood morning
08:13.43JDmorning
08:13.53JDgood to see I didn't miss anything last night
08:15.14TarragonSo it is official that you are now PrCllrJD ?
08:16.05JDwell I don't know
08:16.18JDI think so, but it may not be official until I accept the posst
08:16.53JDon the grounds I wasn't elected
08:17.11TarragonWell unopposed anyway
08:17.26JDwell I wasn't elected was I
08:17.48TarragonTwo votes by proposers
08:18.04JDhmmm put it like that :)
08:18.39JDunfortunately we not have two Tory District Councillors :(
08:18.42JDnow
08:20.17TarragonDemocratically elected or unopposed?
08:20.27JDelected
08:20.52JDhttp://www.midbeds.gov.uk/Elections/results_district_2.asp
08:21.08JDsorry about the nasty javascript slideshow thing
08:22.02JDTory 36 -> 37, Labwar 6 -> 1, LibDem 5 -> 11 plus a few more
08:23.47Tarragon1 Independent. Hurrah. No party usually means no House of Commons party
08:41.55JDso how is that different from Independant?
09:01.48JDargh machine won't boot
09:02.05JDI really hope it is the motherboard
09:02.14JDeither that or the CPU :(
09:04.53*** join/#gllug SpudUAway (~Colin@82-35-38-67.cable.ubr01.camd.blueyonder.co.uk)
09:08.04SpudUAwayHi room, long time no chat.
09:09.33TarragonHappy Birthday SpudUAway!
09:13.04SpudUAwayQuestion on DHCP. When I raise my internet connection to my cable provide I get details of my IP address and nameserver details from their DHCP server. How do I pass the nameserver details onto my local DHCP server so that they can be passed on to the machines in my local network?  I can see where I can put fixed nameserver details in dhcp.conf but not how to put dynamic info.
09:54.20zacharySpudUAway: good morning, what are you using for your gateway/firewall?
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10:08.13JDSpudUAway: you can't
10:08.36JDyou will have to do some sort of nasty script thing or just put it in manually
10:08.46JDI can't imagine they would change that much
10:08.57JDyou could run a caching DNS server
10:09.54JDprocessor was not seated correctly
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10:43.17SPQRmornin' ya'll
10:43.59JDhi
10:46.13SPQRanything interesting happening at your end today?
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10:46.37SPQRhi zachary
10:47.02JDmachine broke, fixed it
10:47.03zacharyhardware problems(damaged nic).
10:47.11JDseen X-men2
10:47.16JDreasonable
10:47.29JDtired
10:47.44JDalone in office
10:47.46JDother than that, not much
10:47.47zacharyJD: how's X-M2?
10:47.47SPQRheh
10:48.21JDzachary: seems longer (or just slower) than X-men
10:48.30JDthe start is very good
10:48.35SPQRless fighting?
10:48.44JDmore fighting
10:48.51SPQRcool
10:49.15JDsomehow it left me feeling a bit lacking
10:49.25JDnot sure if that is because I wanted more or what
10:49.35SPQR<PROTECTED>
10:49.50JDstill best film in May
10:50.13SPQRso far.... Matrix 2 this month ;)
10:50.17JDbut it won't be
10:50.28JDWOW
10:50.34SPQRohh yeah!!
10:50.39JDthat is going to be one hell of a film
10:50.52SPQRI can't wait for it!!
10:51.00JDSpudUAway: sadly you will have to
10:51.01SPQR14 days to go :D
10:51.07JDsorry SpudUAway
10:51.11JDdammit
10:51.13JDSPQR:
10:51.15SPQRhehe
10:51.24JDbloody tab complete
10:51.25SPQRSPQR you meant :P
10:52.08SPQRThat reminds me, I saw a snack food thing with SpudUAway as the name....
10:52.19SpudUAwayI've had to wait for it most of my life, so, no problem!
10:52.24SPQRlol
10:52.33SpudUAwaySpudULike, you mean!
10:52.55SPQRyup, something like that :P
10:53.01JDSpudUAway: no it makes starchy food vansih
10:53.01SpudUAwayBaked potatoes, very popular in the '80s, as was I!
10:53.26SPQRlol. Aren't you more popular now though? ;)
10:54.03SpudUAwaySPQR: Popularity and just being talked about are not the same thing!
10:54.28SPQRSpudUAway : true. But its the thought that counts :)
10:55.05SPQRbbl.
10:55.09SPQRCya all.
10:55.15SpudUAwaybbfn
10:58.25zacharySpudUAway: Did you find an answer to your dhcp/dns question?
10:58.40SpudUAwayalitniL, I like it! Also very '80s.
10:59.26JDSpudUAway: caching DNS server is the way forward
10:59.35SpudUAwayzachary: Kind of. I know the dire4ction to take, learning more about DNS servers.
11:00.38SpudUAwayBut for now I will cope with just passing the regular nameserver addresses via DHCP.
11:05.03zacharybrb
11:34.55JDoxford Geeks made the register :)
11:38.57JD60.99GBP :)
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11:41.38JDFreedevil: I never understood why you are here. it's not like you can go to many meetings
11:41.41JD:)
11:45.08Freedevilim here to destroy gllug
11:47.36*** mode/#gllug [+o Tarragon] by ChanServ
11:47.56TarragonWanna bet?
11:48.16*** mode/#gllug [+o zachary] by ChanServ
11:48.17Freedevilif u ask a stupid question u get a stupid answer
11:48.22*** kick/#gllug [Freedevil!~John@public1-stoc3-3-cust104.oldh.broadband.ntl.com] by Tarragon (Tarragon)
11:48.27SpudUAwayTarragon's been trying for ages, it's still here!       ;-)
11:48.48*** mode/#gllug [-o Tarragon] by Tarragon
11:56.53murbfinger tv@toth.org.uk; finger next@toth.org.uk
11:57.47JDmurb: ?
11:58.11murbJD: try it.
11:59.00JDmurb: can we get CNX on it?
12:01.19murbwhat?
12:02.04TarragonHow often is the information updated?
12:02.36murbno idea.
12:02.44murbi assume it is screen scraped from teletext
12:07.03Tarragonfreeserve have a listings page with CNX but you would need to parse it to get the current showing (Dragonball Z) and next (X-Men: Evolution)
12:07.37SpudUAwayI like the idea of European drag racing, load of men running around in floral print dresses and high heals. Quality stuff.
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12:22.39SPQR'lo
12:22.57TarragonAfternoon
12:23.09SPQRindeed
12:23.26SPQRI'm having a prob at the mo with a tape drive :/
12:24.20SPQRI've just replaced a tape drive in a system with exactly the same make and model as b4, but it's king out an i/o error :/
12:24.58SPQRI've tested the drive in another machine and it works fine. Also changed the ide cable it runs off. NO luck
12:25.04SPQRAny1 have any ideas?
12:25.55SPQRps, no changes were made to the machine since the 1st tape was taken out
12:28.17SPQR*tape drive
12:28.53SPQRbbl
13:24.30dankolb'lo
13:25.00zacharyafternoon dankolb
13:26.07dankolbHi :)
13:33.43JDvillage pub lunch :)
13:41.45dankolb:)
14:21.49JDbloody crap windows 2000 server
14:22.00JDadd a new HD and you need to reboot the bloody thing
14:23.11dankolbDon't you normally need to power down before adding drives anyway?
14:23.12dankolb:)
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14:26.49a4266re
14:27.04JDdankolb: powerdown, add drive, boot, reboot
14:27.08JDuse
14:27.11dankolbAh
14:27.14dankolbWhy?
14:27.41dankolbSounds silly to have to reboot
14:29.42JDyep
14:29.51JDI have to remove the drive again in a second
14:29.55dankolbHeh
14:29.56JDand then add it again
14:30.51dankolbFun
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14:46.59jensonafternoon
14:48.36SPQRg'day Becks :)
14:51.54TarragonSPQR What type of drive? Although it maybe the same model does it have the same BIOS. Some require patches
14:52.15SPQRTarragon : I've been able to get it sorted out thx :)
14:53.57SPQRTarragon : There was a line in the fstab that was trying to mount it as a hard drive.
15:18.13JDjenson: put him down
15:19.11jensonlol heya Dave
15:24.08SPQRWho said I wanted to be put down? :P
15:24.26jenson]:P
15:25.00jensonhe's just jealous :D
15:25.04SPQRlol
15:30.08JDeh?
15:31.52dankolb*may* be online tonight. If not, see you Monday evening
15:32.00jensonseeya Dan take care
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15:38.07jensonhiya sash
15:38.15sashHello
15:46.07jensonseeya later guys
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15:56.17JDAntidisestablishmentarianistically
15:56.35JDPneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis
16:00.07sashhttp://www.thepersonwithanewideaisacrank-untiltheideasucceeds-by-marktwain.com/
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16:07.13new2unixhi all
16:07.52Clyphoxheya
16:08.07Tarragonhttp://www.llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyll-llantysiliogogogoch.com/  www.guinnessrishiwelcomesplanetgullanentertainmentthomasandfriends.com  http://halloffameofinternationalincredibleuniquerecordsoutof36thousand.com I always thought the limit was 63 characters for .coms
16:08.16sashFeeling better Mike?
16:09.02sashnew2unix: Have you just been released?
16:10.09sashI do seem to have that effect on him.
16:18.37TarragonThis afternoons Gllug Spam - 2 messages about how to grow parts of your anatomy, 9 messages on Nigerian money scam, 39 Microsoft Security patches
16:20.17TarragonAdd another 2 security patches.
16:21.19TarragonAnd another 2. guess like we are in the queue again for another 30 or so.
16:22.06ClyphoxCan any of you ping ods.org ?
16:22.39TarragonNo
16:22.50sashMe neither
16:23.08ClyphoxOhh dear..
17:00.20JDquitters
17:00.34ClyphoxHow would you make a script to chmod only directories/files?
17:00.46dankolbfind -type d | xargs chmod
17:00.56dankolbJD: Are you in London ATM?
17:01.13Clyphoxdankolb: Wouldn't that not work for spaces?
17:01.25dankolbHm. Possibly.
17:02.51dankolbJD: Or, if not, want to come to London?
17:04.45Clyphoxdankolb: nope
17:04.49dankolbBah
17:05.22Clyphoxdankolb: Know how to use that "while" thing?
17:05.30dankolbhelp while
17:05.31dankolbHTH
17:05.31dankolb:)
17:06.04dankolbfind -type d -exec 'chmod 777 "\{}";'
17:06.05dankolb?
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17:20.50JDdankolb: ?
17:21.01JDdankolb: nope MK
17:21.13dankolbBah. Not wanting to travel down to London?
17:21.32JDdankolb: costs me something like 16GBP there and back
17:21.41JDand then you have the cost of drinking in London
17:21.42dankolbWell....okay then
17:21.48JDand then I have to get back to milton keynes
17:21.56JDand I have to drive back from the train station
17:22.02JDwhich means I can't drink anyway
17:22.09JDand
17:22.25dankolbOkay, okay.
17:22.42JDClyphox: what exactly are you wanting to do?
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17:22.59JDClyphox: what perms are you wanting to give directories?
17:23.14ClyphoxJD: Well I found a way that works
17:23.16ClyphoxJD: find . -type d -exec chmod 775 {} \;
17:23.25MarkyboyZ1300(hello room)
17:23.42ClyphoxJD: but I want to still know a way of proccessing directories from a list..
17:23.44JDdon't know if {} is entirely safe with spaces
17:23.57JDxargs is good for that sort of thing
17:23.59ClyphoxJD: well it works at least..
17:24.08JDcat list | xargs foo
17:24.24dankolbLates, all
17:24.26dankolb*laters
17:24.29JDnight dan
17:24.31dankolbback around 10, probably
17:25.02MarkyboyZ1300hi jd
17:25.09JDhi Mark
17:25.33MarkyboyZ1300hi,my first time here,just found you on google,i will be going to the meet,and cant wait
17:25.49dankolbOh, I'm sure you can. Don't turn up to my talk.
17:25.50dankolbIt'll be crap.
17:25.57dankolbHi, BTW
17:26.00JDnow now Dan
17:26.04JDI'm sure it will be fine
17:26.13JDapart from the fact it isn;t linux
17:26.21dankolbYes. Makes it better ;-)
17:26.21JDBSD bah
17:26.22MarkyboyZ1300nice to know this sort of thing happens,i havent done anything "social" since my amiga bbs days
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17:26.44dankolbWell, if people don't want to hear about BSD, they don't have to turn up.
17:26.48dankolbwhich is fine by me :)
17:26.52JDdankolb: :)
17:26.55JDI'll turn up
17:26.58dankolbEek!
17:27.10JDfine I won't then :)
17:27.11dankolbI'll need lots of pints afterwards to cover the shame!
17:27.20dankolbThe shame! of making a complete arse of myself
17:27.27JDcan't be any worse than my bash talk last month to MKlug
17:27.36dankolbWith an audience of how many?
17:29.49dankolbAnyway, am gone for real now
17:30.28MarkyboyZ1300how many people normally show up to these things?
17:30.50JDtoo many for Dan's liking
17:31.00JD30-50
17:31.02JDish
17:32.50MarkyboyZ1300cool,i had some bad news today,my boss has decided he does`nt want me to switch our network to linux,he is scared that when i leave we wont find anyone able to run the network????
17:33.10MarkyboyZ1300for a low wage i should have added
17:38.59KMDNow that's a boss ,who knows how to save few hundreds , yet lose thousands.  lol
17:39.38KMDHello all. Howdy
17:43.59MarkyboyZ1300he was scared that only 2% of people use linux,worse thing is he told me to stop using linux as a print server,since i moved to linux i have NEVER had to start and stop the spooler service as i have to constantly on the win2000 server
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17:52.53JDMarkyboyZ1300: tell him you have switched it, but then don't
17:53.12JDMarkyboyZ1300: linux usage is nearer 5%
17:54.58MarkyboyZ1300yeah, i know that percentage is mainly drawn from desktop use not server use,anyway i am in no way gonna stop using it as a proxy server or printing,it is too reliable,6 months now and it has never let me down, plus it is running on a 1.7 p4 ,windows is running on a machine which cost me nearly 10 grand
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18:21.35MarkyboyZ1300hmm
18:22.09MarkyboyZ1300i guess people are busy at the moment
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19:37.34Jensonheya Dan
19:37.42Jensonforgot to ask you why you are at Globix for?
19:37.49dankolbRebooting a couple of machines
19:38.04dankolbOne of them is slowly going titsup
19:38.08dankolbAnd has to be replaced ASAP
19:38.23dankolbSo I'll get on at Andy to try and do it next week
19:38.31Jensongood idea
19:38.50dankolbI've done what I needed, and about to head off
19:39.16Jensonlol, really sounds worth the effort mate
19:39.59dankolb*shrug* Free trip to London
19:40.05Clyphoxdankolb: why not go have a drink with Al?
19:40.07dankolbEven though I don't have anything else to do
19:40.09ClyphoxHi btw..
19:40.13dankolbClyphox: BEcause he wasn't here online
19:40.14dankolbHi :)
19:40.26JensonClyphox: I'm going shopping with Al and possibly Katy tomorrow
19:40.55Clyphoxhehe cool..
19:41.12JensonClyphox: Well, Al is shopping, I'm just hanging out
19:41.40Jensonlol I have £1.44 sscrounging money off my mother til I get paid
19:42.55Jensonheh the idiot sppokykid from #incantus says he isnt speaking to me lol
19:43.03Jensonall bcoz i told him we didnt want his porn bot in here
19:43.12JensonWhen evidently specific people had asked for it
19:44.08JensonAh true, but it was a discussion between zimm, dpash, Al and cly AFAIK
19:44.25dankolbdpash? He's not here any more. He's been taken over by JD
19:44.48Jensonlol i know
19:44.53Jensonbut he was dpash back then
19:45.29dankolbPast, present, future. All rolled into one.
19:45.34dankolbBut I'm gone.
19:45.37dankolbNeed foodage.
19:46.15Jensonseeya
19:46.24Jensonsorry, Al on phone
19:46.52dankolbWhy apologise? :)
19:47.00dankolbEnyway.
19:50.03Leedsold fridge/freezer is - single-handedly - out of my flat, down 3 flights of stairs, and by the bins...
19:51.22ClyphoxAny of you guys emulated DOS before? I wanna play some of me old games..
19:51.35Leedsdosemu? dosbox?
19:51.36ClyphoxAparently its called "abandonware" now adays :-(
19:51.47Clyphoxheard of mudos?
19:52.10Leedsnever heard of mudos
19:52.20ClyphoxI know I should prolly just stop my 386 from running minix and play on that hehe
19:52.53Clyphoxbut then if I'm ever gonna get myself and ipaq I wanna play Monkey Island on it just for fun :-)
19:53.21Leedsscummvm, right?  I hear it runs nicely :-)
19:53.45ClyphoxWell not really
19:53.53Leedson the iPAQ, that is
19:53.58ClyphoxIt has only played one of the games I've tried
19:54.49ClyphoxBut its doesn't even play it perfectly.. its impressive but I'd rather fiddle with zsnes
19:55.02Clyphox(well almost perfectly.. buggy sound)
19:55.39ClyphoxLeeds: how much could I get a "functional" iPAQ for? (IE: it can play Divx/mp3/ogg)
19:55.45ClyphoxRoughly I mean..
19:55.51Leedsdivx hard...
19:55.54Leedsmp3/ogg easy...
19:56.08Clyphoxdivx hard?
19:56.15Clyphoxoh.. power wise..
19:56.25ClyphoxEven with say.. mplayer-xp ?
19:56.29Leedsyeah... mplayer runs perfectly... but slowly :-(
19:56.51Leedsnever tried mplayer-xp... never heard that it went anywhere - and I'm not sure that it would help at all on iPAQ
19:57.02Jensonheh, have i got a sign on my head that says 'if you're male i'll flirt' or something?
19:57.11LeedsJenson: dunno, love...
19:57.33Leedscome over here and I'll comfort you...
19:57.36Leedsetc, etc etc
19:57.39Clyphoxlol
19:57.41JensonLeeds: heh
19:58.05JensonI really must get going, was gonna get in the bath like an hour ago
19:58.13LeedsI'll join you!
19:58.14JensonI might BBL, otherwise I'll see you tomorrow
19:58.14ClyphoxLeeds: The one you have seemed to play divx ok.. was it encoded specificly?
19:58.27ClyphoxLeeds: would you fit?
19:58.29JensonLeeds: I'm not sure there's room for 2 of us in the bath
19:58.33LeedsClyphox: if you really work with the settings, you can get something playable...
19:58.45LeedsJenson: I'll get in, then you can get on top - nice and comfy :-)
19:58.47ClyphoxLeeds: Goodie..
19:58.57Jensonlol Leeds ffs, naughty boy
19:59.19Leedsdrop the bitrate... drop the framerate... drop the resolution... drop the audio quality
19:59.27LeedsClyphox: little Leeds?
19:59.34Jensonlol Leeds
19:59.39Jensonanyway, i goota go
19:59.40Jensonseeya
19:59.43ClyphoxLeeds: sypathetic I
19:59.56Leedscheers :-)
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20:01.22LeedsClyphox: better to try to get a 38xx if you can... dunno how much they go for...  36/7 can do it, but 38 has better screen, more battery, more ROM/RAM (in many cases)
20:01.41ClyphoxCan they do USB or CF?
20:02.22Leedsall can do USB - *client*
20:02.39Leedsall can do CF - needs a sleeve
20:03.20ClyphoxPity there is no USB *server*
20:03.42ClyphoxI wanna iPAQ
20:04.10Leedsthere's all sorts of reasons why not... if it's really important, there is a CF USB server card - the kernel guys have one and they're working on a driver
20:04.58ClyphoxYay
20:07.14LeedsI don't know if the card is generally-available yet...
20:07.20Leedswhat do you need USB for?
20:07.42ClyphoxNeed? there is no need.. only desire..
20:08.01ClyphoxJust my Happy Hacker kbd
20:08.06Leedspeople have been living without it for years...
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20:22.59Leedshttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3021490988&category=15005 or similar
20:26.12ClyphoxGonna go watch some Divx methinks.. bbl
20:31.30Leedshmm... William Hague on HIGNFY
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