| 00:15.28 | Stephen | anyone know if presentations are archived somewhere? was specifically after leeds' shell talk one |
| 00:15.57 | new2unix | dunno. |
| 00:16.02 | new2unix | ask him |
| 00:38.09 | skugg | they used to be available on the site... |
| 00:38.15 | skugg | dunno now |
| 00:43.29 | Leeds | Stephen: ipaq.vmlinuz.org/gllug |
| 00:43.56 | Stephen | cheers Leeds |
| 00:44.04 | Leeds | no probs |
| 00:44.32 | new2unix | isnt it bedtime yet, guys? |
| 00:44.45 | Stephen | I was thinking of doing the thing in perl, but I really need to improve my shell skills |
| 00:45.38 | skugg | new2unix, yeh. i think it is, really. |
| 00:47.05 | new2unix | took the wrong time to upgrade mt netbsd box :( |
| 00:47.37 | new2unix | got adsl on monday. the modem arrived yesterday from ebay and the RJ11 arrived today from work. HAHA |
| 00:47.42 | Leeds | g'night all |
| 00:47.47 | new2unix | Night |
| 00:56.46 | JD | anyone awake? |
| 00:57.02 | JD | cool |
| 00:57.14 | resuDaed | trying to mount a cdrom |
| 00:57.16 | JD | rather fit |
| 00:57.23 | new2unix | yep. me |
| 00:57.27 | resuDaed | my gf drank to much so wasn'#t mountable |
| 00:57.31 | JD | resuDaed: mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom |
| 00:57.44 | resuDaed | JD : lol, if only life was that simple |
| 00:58.06 | JD | new2unix: nothing against you, but you're not my type |
| 00:58.15 | JD | resuDaed: what is wrong? |
| 00:58.41 | JD | but I got to put my arm around her which is cool enough |
| 00:58.42 | new2unix | huh? lol the question i got was "anyone awake" |
| 00:58.44 | JD | esp for a geek |
| 00:58.46 | resuDaed | am not quite sure |
| 00:59.06 | JD | new2unix: oh sorry thougt you were saying you were fit |
| 00:59.08 | new2unix | who is JD? |
| 00:59.18 | JD | new2unix: I'm dpash |
| 00:59.29 | new2unix | hey. i remember you. lol |
| 00:59.30 | JD | we met breifly at the last meeting just before you left the pub |
| 00:59.40 | resuDaed | I think it's actually the drive playing up |
| 00:59.41 | new2unix | yeah. thats right. |
| 01:00.01 | JD | resuDaed: is the CD readable anywhere else |
| 01:00.17 | JD | this girl was doing computing, maths physics A-level |
| 01:00.36 | JD | fucking fantastic body |
| 01:00.43 | resuDaed | JD : just checking, but some idiot left the drive open for 12 hours, so may need cleaning |
| 01:01.09 | JD | hmmm I've left my DVD player drive open :( |
| 01:01.19 | resuDaed | the light is on that indicates a medium in there |
| 01:01.45 | JD | found it |
| 01:01.49 | resuDaed | tom@brian:~$ mount /cdrom/ |
| 01:01.49 | resuDaed | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0, |
| 01:01.49 | resuDaed | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:01.59 | JD | shit is it really 2:00 |
| 01:02.19 | JD | what a shit time to come home |
| 01:02.19 | skugg | why? |
| 01:02.22 | resuDaed | there are 2 datatracks, so possibly having trouble reading multi-track? |
| 01:02.26 | JD | hi skugg |
| 01:02.35 | skugg | hi jd :) |
| 01:02.46 | JD | resuDaed: could be corrupt |
| 01:02.56 | JD | do you have another drive you could try it on? |
| 01:03.02 | JD | have you read it before? |
| 01:03.09 | resuDaed | JD : no & no |
| 01:03.16 | JD | oh |
| 01:03.22 | resuDaed | trying another disc (disc 2) |
| 01:03.27 | JD | so it could be that the disk is knackered |
| 01:03.34 | JD | good idea |
| 01:03.41 | JD | see if the drive is buggered |
| 01:04.01 | JD | skugg: I'm feeling a bit pleased a bit disappointed and a bit drunk |
| 01:04.08 | skugg | :) |
| 01:04.10 | resuDaed | it seems it's a problem with that disc then :-( grrr |
| 01:04.29 | JD | does the second disk work then? |
| 01:04.36 | resuDaed | JD : yes |
| 01:04.46 | resuDaed | what use is a vcd when the first half is fscked |
| 01:05.10 | JD | resuDaed: probably not much |
| 01:05.31 | resuDaed | wierd thing is there isn't a scratch on the cd |
| 01:05.52 | JD | resuDaed: there may well not be any that you can see |
| 01:05.53 | resuDaed | (not a single mark) |
| 01:06.09 | JD | coul dbe other problems |
| 01:06.45 | resuDaed | nope, disc 1 still not mounting ... /me goes huntingon gnutella for disc 1 then |
| 01:08.37 | resuDaed | unless anyone else as the film 'webmaster' (vin desil) on vcd |
| 01:09.00 | JD | could you not buy it on DVD? |
| 01:09.13 | JD | do you have a DVD player? |
| 01:09.17 | JD | most of them do VCD |
| 01:09.37 | resuDaed | JD : I have a dvd player, but it doesn't like vcds |
| 01:12.12 | resuDaed | maybe I just give up and try to sleep |
| 01:12.31 | JD | grrrr |
| 01:12.39 | JD | that means I would have to slepp too |
| 01:12.49 | JD | althought that isn;t such a bad idea |
| 01:12.59 | skugg | :) |
| 01:13.04 | skugg | i'm going to bed too. |
| 01:13.07 | skugg | night all. |
| 01:13.12 | JD | night |
| 01:13.14 | resuDaed | night skugg |
| 01:13.23 | JD | okay |
| 01:13.27 | JD | I'm going too |
| 01:13.46 | JD | think about the girl tonight :) |
| 01:14.16 | resuDaed | night JD :, don't wear your arm out too much thinking |
| 01:14.25 | JD | resuDaed: fuck off |
| 01:14.30 | Stephen | rofl |
| 01:14.31 | JD | :) |
| 01:15.09 | resuDaed | :-P |
| 01:16.19 | JD | a day with Jenson |
| 01:16.55 | Stephen | next for what? |
| 01:17.18 | resuDaed | only quad speen, but trayless |
| 01:17.38 | new2unix | my kernel compile is taking forever :( |
| 01:18.27 | JD | Stephen: don't be nieve |
| 01:18.47 | JD | :) |
| 01:18.48 | Stephen | heh |
| 01:19.04 | JD | Jenson: man killer |
| 01:19.05 | Stephen | I'm not really, just being tired |
| 01:19.18 | JD | so it appears |
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| 01:27.21 | pdr | ibot: seen formi? |
| 01:27.25 | | formi <~formi@usr444-har.blueyonder.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 2d 5h 45m 53s ago, saying: '<formi> it seems to do it by default, when no -scanpci has been specified'. |
| 01:27.37 | pdr | ok then |
| 01:32.57 | pdr | anyone here? |
| 01:33.26 | new2unix | hello |
| 01:34.03 | pdr | hi new2unix |
| 01:34.09 | pdr | how's things? |
| 01:34.27 | new2unix | good. just rebuilding my kernel :D |
| 01:34.37 | pdr | :-) |
| 01:35.54 | JD | hi pdr |
| 01:36.00 | pdr | JD!!! |
| 01:36.14 | pdr | ooohh |
| 01:36.19 | pdr | tell us more |
| 01:36.59 | JD | pdr: 18, really nice fit body, gorgeous tits :) |
| 01:37.21 | JD | pdr: oh and drunk :) |
| 01:37.42 | pdr | fsking oath! |
| 01:38.16 | pdr | new2unix: kewl. |
| 01:38.32 | JD | pdr: yet I didn't pull her :( |
| 01:38.45 | pdr | JD: i didn't even get a chance because of my pissed mate goddamit |
| 01:38.46 | JD | pdr: would have rocked if I had |
| 01:38.57 | pdr | did you get her number or anything? |
| 01:38.59 | JD | pdr: you shag enough girls |
| 01:39.08 | JD | pdr: I know where she lives :) |
| 01:39.10 | pdr | JD: :-) |
| 01:39.19 | JD | very close to me :) |
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| 01:39.26 | JD | the advantages of living in a village :) |
| 01:39.29 | pdr | whatever you do, don't go knocking on her door right now |
| 01:39.34 | JD | resuDaed: weren;yt you going to bed> |
| 01:39.34 | pdr | indeed |
| 01:39.43 | pdr | 'lo tom |
| 01:39.44 | JD | pdr: wasn't gpoing to |
| 01:39.47 | resuDaed | JD : after a reboot |
| 01:39.49 | JD | too far to walk |
| 01:39.54 | resuDaed | evening (morning) pdr |
| 01:40.04 | pdr | resuDaed: where are you then? |
| 01:40.33 | JD | pdr: did I mention that she was 18 and had fantastic breasts? |
| 01:40.37 | resuDaed | @ home : gf was too drunk to mount, I mean, um ... she got pissed |
| 01:40.49 | pdr | JD: i think so. tell me again just in case. :-) |
| 01:41.05 | pdr | resuDaed: how rude |
| 01:41.10 | pdr | ;-P |
| 01:41.18 | JD | she was 18 and had the best pair you have seen ina long time |
| 01:41.24 | resuDaed | :-P : I also was drinking, but made it back without being sick |
| 01:41.39 | Stephen | going out is too expensive |
| 01:41.45 | Stephen | and it sucks |
| 01:41.46 | JD | resuDaed: how can you be too drunk to mount> |
| 01:41.46 | pdr | resuDaed: yay! Pat didn't. i had to carry him from camden to bermondsey |
| 01:41.47 | resuDaed | Stephen : aye |
| 01:41.53 | JD | Stephen: live near a uni |
| 01:41.56 | JD | cheap drinks |
| 01:42.02 | Stephen | I do |
| 01:42.09 | Stephen | bar is like 50yds away |
| 01:42.13 | resuDaed | JD : when she is sleeping, it can be difficult |
| 01:42.14 | pdr | Stephen: drink at home and invite your mates around |
| 01:42.28 | JD | Stephen: altough I managed to spend nearly 40GBP while drinking in uni bars :( |
| 01:42.32 | Stephen | pdr: they all go out, cos they're rich |
| 01:42.38 | pdr | bastards! |
| 01:42.43 | JD | Stephen: which uni? |
| 01:42.46 | new2unix | night all |
| 01:42.48 | Stephen | JD: brookes |
| 01:42.50 | pdr | night new2unix |
| 01:42.54 | Stephen | nn new2unix |
| 01:42.56 | JD | resuDaed: morcanna? |
| 01:42.58 | resuDaed | night |
| 01:43.00 | JD | night new |
| 01:43.08 | JD | Stephen: hmm oxford |
| 01:43.14 | JD | probably not the cheapest student bar |
| 01:43.23 | Stephen | no, probably not |
| 01:43.46 | pdr | ibot: jd? |
| 01:43.47 | | i guess jd is looking for a indie or nu-metaler geek girl, non-smoker |
| 01:43.58 | pdr | with big tits? |
| 01:44.08 | Stephen | of course |
| 01:44.18 | JD | pdr: not big tits |
| 01:44.31 | JD | just nice ones and not too exspensive |
| 01:44.45 | pdr | indeed, tits can be expensive |
| 01:44.52 | pdr | morcanna? |
| 01:45.09 | JD | already there |
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| 09:45.15 | JD | hi people |
| 09:45.24 | JD | anyone awake? |
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| 09:51.03 | zachary | good morning |
| 09:51.22 | Leeds | morning |
| 09:51.29 | Leeds | anyone used drip for DVD-ripping? |
| 09:52.14 | zachary | Leeds: not yet, but now that you mention it I may give it a try. |
| 09:52.27 | Leeds | chatting to someone who isn't really ready for the manual mplayer->vcdimager->cdrdao collection which I use :-) |
| 09:54.13 | Leeds | there's also dvd::rip at http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/ |
| 10:10.31 | Clyphox | hi |
| 10:14.45 | zachary | morning Clyphox |
| 10:14.56 | zachary | Leeds: Thanks for the link. |
| 10:15.03 | Leeds | no probs |
| 10:18.29 | Leeds | can anyone particularly recommend a cheap-ish m/b with working onboard stuff? video/audio/LAN... not for me :-) |
| 10:19.43 | JD | eliteboard K7 something |
| 10:20.00 | JD | it is what we use |
| 10:21.50 | JD | K7S5A |
| 10:21.57 | JD | www.ecs.com.tw |
| 10:22.05 | zachary | Leeds: mini-itx |
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| 10:23.34 | Shai | howdy |
| 10:23.47 | JD | hi None |
| 10:24.24 | Shai | hmm .. |
| 10:24.57 | JD | Leeds: what kind of proc do they want? |
| 10:25.07 | Leeds | JD: ask him - it's Shai :-) |
| 10:25.14 | Shai | oh .. you talking about me ? |
| 10:25.21 | JD | Shai: what sort of proc do you want? |
| 10:25.52 | JD | ESC do a loa dof MBs with CPU already installed |
| 10:25.58 | JD | are very cheap |
| 10:26.07 | JD | K7SEM |
| 10:26.41 | JD | it comes with a 1200Mhz Duron |
| 10:26.53 | Shai | I'm gonna get an Intel Celeron 1.8ghz |
| 10:26.54 | JD | all you need to do is add memory and a hard disk |
| 10:26.55 | JD | and a case |
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| 10:27.13 | Leeds | Shai: you don't need anything like that kind of processor for a home server |
| 10:27.18 | Shai | but I'm not sure I can get those in Israel .. |
| 10:27.37 | Shai | Leeds, it's the cheapest I could find. |
| 10:27.49 | Leeds | Shai: get a board with an on-board CPU - cheaper... |
| 10:27.56 | JD | http://www.ecs.com.tw/products/pd_spec.asp?product_id=194 |
| 10:28.00 | Shai | I don't think we got those around ... |
| 10:28.10 | JD | Shai: ship it |
| 10:28.16 | Shai | money. |
| 10:28.32 | Leeds | Shai: name a big computer place in Israel... with a website... |
| 10:28.39 | JD | UK to .il can't be that much |
| 10:28.45 | JD | is it .il? |
| 10:28.51 | JD | ir is? |
| 10:28.52 | Shai | When I first started using Linux, I was told not to use SIS with anything that has to do with Linux. |
| 10:28.58 | JD | or .is |
| 10:29.03 | Shai | yes .. .il .. Israel |
| 10:30.10 | Shai | ECS are considered good? They are not considered good in Israel. |
| 10:30.26 | JD | Shai: they wrk here |
| 10:30.40 | Shai | Maybe it's all to do with Windows then ... |
| 10:31.04 | Shai | But I won't get the same warrenty I would when buying Intel. |
| 10:31.34 | Leeds | Shai: does that really worry you? |
| 10:31.45 | JD | what warrenty is that? |
| 10:31.45 | Shai | hmm .. should anything go wrong... |
| 10:32.00 | JD | Shai: then you take it back to where you got it form |
| 10:32.01 | Leeds | I've never used a warranty for that kind of thing - I've taken stuff back to a shop when it was DOA, but apart from that... |
| 10:32.13 | Shai | With Intel, I'd get a 3 year warrenty for the board, that includes the NIC, Audio and Video. |
| 10:32.22 | Shai | I'm gonna get just 1 year with ECS. |
| 10:32.52 | JD | and you will pay over the odds for intel board etc |
| 10:33.06 | Shai | what odds? |
| 10:33.29 | Leeds | Shai: see http://www.viaarena.com/Default.asp?PageID=254&Country=240&Products=any&submitted=submitted for mini-itx resellers who ship to .il - including one wholesaler in Rishon... who could probably tell you where to buy locally |
| 10:33.35 | JD | figure of speech. you will pay more for intel |
| 10:33.51 | Leeds | Shai: "over the odds" means more than usual or more than it's worth |
| 10:34.00 | Shai | I get an Intel D845GLAD (NIC+Video+Audio) + Celeron 1.8ghz for just US$170 |
| 10:34.42 | JD | ibot convert 170 dollars to sterling |
| 10:34.58 | JD | too much |
| 10:35.07 | Shai | ibot shai |
| 10:35.08 | | methinks shai is Another one of those people that got into Linux, fell in love, went back to Windows, threw up on it and went back "HOME" to Linux. |
| 10:35.22 | JD | the K7SEM was about 40-50GBP + vat |
| 10:35.40 | Leeds | ibot convert 300 sterling to shekels |
| 10:35.52 | Leeds | that's not right... |
| 10:36.24 | Shai | hehe ! |
| 10:36.36 | Leeds | ibot change 300 gbp to nis |
| 10:36.49 | Shai | hmm .. right now I can get the whole computer for just 1700NIS. |
| 10:36.50 | Leeds | whatever... |
| 10:36.55 | Shai | including everything. |
| 10:36.57 | JD | Leeds: and it doesn't fo TLA currency |
| 10:37.07 | Leeds | JD: it *used* to :-( |
| 10:37.15 | JD | ibot ibot |
| 10:37.16 | | somebody said ibot was a blootbot now, no longer an infobot. run by BZFlag (TimRiker) on his server. see blootbot also http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ it uses SQLite but can use MySQL or other SQL for storage. |
| 10:37.30 | Leeds | it used to, after it became a blootbot |
| 10:37.35 | Leeds | anyway... |
| 10:38.05 | Leeds | Shai: so if you're going to spend about 1000 NIS on the board and CPU, you can get case/RAM/HDD for 700 NIS? |
| 10:38.14 | Shai | I get the Intel mobo, 512mb DDR266, Case, 1.44 floppy, GF2 Video Card, Cd-Rom drive = 1700NIS. |
| 10:38.23 | Leeds | no hard drive? |
| 10:38.35 | Shai | I've got one already. |
| 10:38.45 | Shai | 40gb. |
| 10:38.49 | Shai | 7200rpms |
| 10:38.54 | Shai | rpm |
| 10:38.55 | Leeds | well, you didn't say that :-) |
| 10:39.03 | Shai | sorry ... |
| 10:39.31 | Leeds | not including HDD, I could build a mini-itx machine for under 200 GBP... under 1500 NIS |
| 10:39.52 | Shai | that's just about the same price as my Intel... |
| 10:40.04 | Shai | and with Intel I get all the other onboard things ... |
| 10:40.17 | Shai | I just want to know that they will work in Linux before I buy them. |
| 10:40.40 | Shai | I'm good for the cash, just need to make sure they are working under Linux. |
| 10:40.40 | Leeds | mini-itx has everything on-board... and they're small cute machines - Michal will thank me :-) |
| 10:40.49 | Shai | LOL |
| 10:40.58 | Shai | Michal is gonna get one too .. for Windows though. |
| 10:41.01 | Leeds | and who needs a floppy drive nowadays - they're obselete, man... |
| 10:41.07 | Shai | She just won't work with OO anymore .. |
| 10:41.20 | Shai | I won't need one with Linux ? |
| 10:41.31 | Shai | hmm .. come to think of it.. I haven't used it once yet! |
| 10:41.33 | Leeds | why would you? "The Network Is The Computer" :-) |
| 10:41.51 | Shai | ok ok ... |
| 10:41.56 | Shai | so I don't need it .. sure I do ! |
| 10:42.07 | Shai | I need it for pqmagic .. and Fdisk .. |
| 10:42.09 | Leeds | oh... plus mini-itx is fanless... |
| 10:42.12 | JD | ibot: convert 100US to GB |
| 10:42.19 | Leeds | you're not going to dual-boot your server, are you? |
| 10:42.28 | Shai | NO NO !! |
| 10:42.30 | Shai | why would I ? |
| 10:42.37 | Shai | why did you think I will ? |
| 10:42.45 | JD | ibot: convert 100 US to GB |
| 10:42.45 | Leeds | so why do you need pqmagic and fdisk? |
| 10:42.56 | Shai | Leeds: should I need to ... |
| 10:42.58 | Leeds | you boot from CD, and install from there |
| 10:43.10 | JD | hmm I should read the source a bit more first |
| 10:43.50 | Shai | Leeds: anyways, to cut things clean. I need to know that Intel D845GLAD will work with Linux. |
| 10:44.04 | Leeds | I can't tell you that it will |
| 10:44.06 | JD | ibot exchange 100 US to GB |
| 10:44.23 | JD | ibot exchange 100US to GB |
| 10:44.51 | Shai | Leeds: I don't need you to tell me.. :) I need your help and knowhow in Linux websites to help me search for a glimps of hope :) |
| 10:45.08 | Leeds | ibot stop being such a fool |
| 10:45.10 | | Leeds: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 10:45.33 | Leeds | Shai: I'm happy to help... but if stuff isn't supported, it's not supported... not much I can do |
| 10:45.48 | Shai | Leeds: I don't know if it is or isn't. |
| 10:45.49 | Leeds | the graphics should work, the audio should work... the LAN may or may not work |
| 10:46.20 | Shai | An Intel Pro/100 won't work on Linux ... |
| 10:46.42 | Leeds | it's not an Intel Pro/100 |
| 10:46.46 | Leeds | that's a PCI card |
| 10:47.01 | Leeds | it's a chip which is, allegedly, compatible with a Pro/100 card |
| 10:47.02 | Shai | but that's what they say on the board specs... |
| 10:47.14 | Leeds | I don't trust the board specs, I trust Donald Becker |
| 10:47.20 | JD | ibot 100 US to GB |
| 10:47.21 | | JD: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 10:47.30 | JD | argh |
| 10:47.52 | Shai | Leeds: Donald Becker? |
| 10:47.55 | Leeds | ibot breadbox |
| 10:47.56 | | breadbox is probably smaller than a large breadbox but larger than a small breadbox. Some people keep bread in a breadbox, others get thousands of loaves of bread and make a box out of them in which they sleep until the bread goes mouldy then they need to call the council to condemn it but instead of condemning it they put you away in a box not made of bread but they do get the bread which they then feed you from a box which might just |
| 10:48.06 | Leeds | Shai: the author of most of the Linux network card drivers |
| 10:48.16 | Shai | Where is that at ? |
| 10:48.32 | JD | ibot exchange 100 USD to GBP |
| 10:48.43 | JD | I give up |
| 10:49.04 | JD | I've read the code and it doesn't do what it is meant to |
| 10:50.59 | Shai | Leeds: I need to go out like I told you yesterday. Cya later friend! |
| 10:51.05 | Leeds | seeya |
| 11:04.05 | JD | shower |
| 11:06.36 | Clyphox | Safeways |
| 11:07.19 | zachary | bbl |
| 11:14.35 | Stephen | ibot exchange 100USD to GBP |
| 11:14.47 | Stephen | ibot exchange USD 100 to GBP |
| 11:15.04 | Leeds | ibot change 100USD to GBP |
| 11:15.06 | Stephen | ibot help |
| 11:15.27 | Leeds | ibot want to give us an example of something which does look right then? |
| 11:15.28 | | Leeds: You are moron #4 |
| 12:12.00 | Tarragon | ibot convert 7000 rupees to rand |
| 12:12.23 | Leeds | ibot convert 300 sterling to shekels |
| 12:12.42 | Leeds | well, it's wrong, but still... it's more like 2200 |
| 12:12.51 | resuDaed | ibot convert 150 rand to sterling |
| 12:15.14 | Tarragon | £300 = 2158 ILS |
| 12:15.59 | Leeds | ILS? or NIS? |
| 12:16.12 | Leeds | NIS is more correct |
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| 12:16.29 | Leeds | either way... I haven't actually spent shekels in years... apart from online |
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| 12:20.15 | Tarragon | Saturday FT and banks still use ILS as the coding even though it is NIS. I guess too many systems to recode. |
| 12:26.20 | Leeds | it's been NIS for quite a long time :-) not particularly N anymore |
| 12:30.14 | murble | is it yellow? |
| 12:41.44 | Leeds | yellow? |
| 12:45.14 | murble | and page like |
| 12:45.26 | Leeds | ah |
| 12:45.53 | Leeds | different NIS :-) |
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| 13:09.10 | JD | hi all |
| 13:09.17 | murble | is it formi? |
| 13:09.25 | its-formi | sometimes |
| 13:10.22 | murble | oh are your computers? |
| 13:10.34 | its-formi | im using xp |
| 13:11.00 | JD | how does someone on the list know I'm dpash? |
| 13:11.07 | its-formi | i have spent about 1 hour cleaning the bloody thing of spyware |
| 13:11.17 | JD | I don't understand |
| 13:11.26 | its-formi | jd: you can't hide from us |
| 13:11.31 | JD | I help someone on the list and they thank dpash |
| 13:11.47 | JD | its-formi: but I don't use the nick on email |
| 13:11.58 | JD | and I haven't used it for several weeks |
| 13:12.19 | its-formi | *** JD is ~david@212.56.237.101 (David Pashley) |
| 13:12.20 | JD | makes no sense |
| 13:12.27 | JD | exactly |
| 13:12.33 | murble | JD: hmm this channel is logged. |
| 13:12.35 | its-formi | do a query on yourself |
| 13:12.40 | JD | murble: I know |
| 13:12.44 | murble | we could have people lurking by reading logs (hi!) |
| 13:12.59 | JD | its-formi: there is no dpash in my whois info afaik |
| 13:13.08 | its-formi | murble: can we throw abuse at them? |
| 13:13.38 | its-formi | David Pashley |
| 13:14.11 | JD | its-formi: I know, but I helped him on the list and I don't recall him being on irc |
| 13:14.30 | JD | :) |
| 13:14.55 | its-formi | maybe whoever you are talking about logged in here with a different nick |
| 13:15.07 | JD | and not the alcohol |
| 13:15.41 | its-formi | anyways xpiss seems to be behaiving now |
| 13:16.07 | a-different-nick | which machine are you running it on? |
| 13:16.12 | its-formi | i shall go and organise a galician * for tommorrow |
| 13:16.34 | its-formi | flatmate's laptop |
| 13:16.46 | its-formi | the bastard unistalled phoenix |
| 13:17.16 | its-formi | from now on i will keep everything hidden from him |
| 13:17.32 | a-different-nick | a * |
| 13:17.35 | a-different-nick | ? |
| 13:17.51 | highbury | hey guys |
| 13:17.59 | its-formi | i will "talk" to you in a sec |
| 13:18.59 | JD | anyone going to AFFS? hmmmm same day as GLLUG. ah |
| 13:19.05 | JD | oh er |
| 13:19.22 | JD | not good |
| 13:21.03 | a-different-nick | JD: vfork |
| 13:21.21 | JD | a-different-nick: interesting concept |
| 13:25.10 | JD | anyone know what Lene Jenson did to injure herself? |
| 13:25.26 | JD | I thought she was just unwell, not injured |
| 13:34.38 | its-formi | im off |
| 13:34.53 | its-formi | see you late (in a week probably) |
| 13:35.46 | Leeds | JD: something in the garden by the sound of it |
| 13:48.30 | JD | Leeds: I had kind of figured that :) |
| 13:48.50 | JD | Leeds: depends on how long it would take you to get there |
| 13:49.13 | Leeds | I probably could't be inside anywhere much before 4 |
| 13:49.58 | Leeds | longer, depending on where |
| 13:51.29 | Leeds | I'll go on Monday... or maybe tomorrow morning |
| 13:52.48 | Leeds | it's sort of a "hey, I live in London - so much to do - and I spend too much time in front of a screen..." thing |
| 13:53.47 | JD | what were you thinking of going to |
| 13:53.58 | JD | Science? Natural History, V+A |
| 13:54.10 | JD | or somewhere else? |
| 13:54.16 | Leeds | natural history, british, war, maybe V+A |
| 13:54.28 | JD | where is british? |
| 13:54.38 | JD | is it near the others? |
| 13:54.43 | Leeds | http://www.thebritishmuseum.ac.uk/visit/gifs/map.gif :-) |
| 13:54.49 | JD | South Kensingtion? |
| 13:55.00 | Leeds | to the east of TCR |
| 13:55.00 | JD | tat was rather quick |
| 13:55.09 | Leeds | I've got various museum's sites open :-) |
| 13:55.19 | JD | hmm I should know that |
| 13:55.37 | Leeds | probably the easiest for me to get to... Northern Line... |
| 13:55.47 | JD | I've driven past the thing several times while trying to servey the area before deciding the best way to leave london |
| 13:55.59 | JD | (read lost) |
| 13:56.46 | Leeds | my impression of the Science museum is that it's very kid-oriented... but maybe that's because I last visited about 18 years ago, I think |
| 13:57.20 | Leeds | it's also partly because I enjoyed being a tourist in Sydney and doing stuff like this... and again on the "it's on my doorstop" |
| 13:58.06 | Leeds | I don't tend to drive around central London at all... just train and occasionally bus |
| 14:00.27 | JD | Leeds: I enjoyed the powerhouse, but we went a bit too late and didn;t really have time to look at everything |
| 14:00.56 | Leeds | I rushed it a bit too... it was my penultimate day there... so I didn't look at everything |
| 14:04.53 | JD | I think we had done the aquarium and the russian space shuttle and then went to do the powerhouse |
| 14:05.12 | JD | iirc we dis a darling harbour tour |
| 14:05.23 | JD | we didn;t get to the maritime museam |
| 14:05.45 | JD | I want to go back next January |
| 14:06.14 | Leeds | russian space shuttle??? |
| 14:06.20 | JD | start at sydney for a few days, travel down to canberra, melbourne and then finally to adelade for LCA 2004 |
| 14:06.32 | JD | Leeds: yep they have one in darling harbour |
| 14:06.35 | Leeds | maritime museum was good... with a decent free tour |
| 14:06.37 | JD | I wouldn;t bother going to see it again |
| 14:06.45 | Leeds | didn't see a space shuttle in darling harbour... |
| 14:06.52 | JD | waste of a good afternoon and 20AUD |
| 14:07.06 | JD | the aquarium was good |
| 14:07.16 | JD | much better seeing it wild though :) |
| 14:07.38 | Leeds | went to the aquarium on my first day there... with my sister |
| 14:08.08 | JD | http://www.procargo.fi/buran.html |
| 14:08.11 | Leeds | didn't really do any wild stuff - just the zoo and the aquarium |
| 14:08.52 | Leeds | hmm... cool :-) |
| 14:09.26 | Leeds | I spent a day at the zoo |
| 14:09.55 | Leeds | http://photos.geeksgetrevenge.com/far_east/Sydney/Zoo/dirindex.html |
| 14:09.57 | JD | was one of the better zoos I've been too |
| 14:10.20 | JD | fantasic views of Sydney |
| 14:10.29 | Leeds | yeah |
| 14:10.40 | JD | cable car was a bit freaky |
| 14:10.59 | Leeds | didn't do that :-) |
| 14:11.15 | JD | I don't really like them at the best of times |
| 14:11.30 | Leeds | I bet you took less pictures of giraffes than me! |
| 14:11.52 | JD | er I think that is quite likely |
| 14:12.07 | Leeds | I quite like cable cars... but we drove to the zoo anyway |
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| 14:13.52 | JD | I take it that is your sister |
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| 14:13.53 | Leeds | I took the ferry between Darling Harbour and Circular Quay a few times, did a short harbour cruise, and took the fast ferry to Manly |
| 14:13.57 | Leeds | yup, sister |
| 14:14.15 | Leeds | who is now in Spain! having spent about 24 hours in the UK last week before flying out again |
| 14:14.20 | JD | so what was the thing with the giraffess? |
| 14:14.37 | Leeds | she liked them... and you could feed them for a couple of dollars |
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| 14:14.55 | JD | I fed koalas instead :) |
| 14:14.57 | JD | cuter |
| 14:15.11 | JD | dumber too |
| 14:15.13 | Leeds | we walked around the koala thing... but it was getting towards the end of the day... |
| 14:15.39 | Leeds | the blind giraffe was quite pathetic - she just stuck her tongue out, hoping someone would put some food on it |
| 14:15.39 | JD | hmmm I'm going to eat stuff that I can't digest properly and sleep for 20hours a day |
| 14:15.50 | JD | lol |
| 14:15.52 | Leeds | doesn't sound like that bad a life :-) |
| 14:15.58 | JD | which one was that |
| 14:16.26 | Leeds | http://photos.geeksgetrevenge.com/far_east/Sydney/Zoo/PA250156.html I think |
| 14:16.41 | JD | just the one I'm looking at :) |
| 14:17.02 | JD | anyone know someone with a film scanner? |
| 14:17.48 | Leeds | http://www.morgancomputers.co.uk/shop/products2.asp?CategoryID=16&SubCategoryID=101 |
| 14:18.06 | JD | Leeds: I was kind of hoping not to buy one |
| 14:18.09 | skugg | JD, i think colin has one... but take that with a grain of salt. |
| 14:18.16 | Leeds | in that case, no, I don't |
| 14:18.21 | JD | I only have 400 shots to do :) |
| 14:18.49 | JD | I think I can get it done a shop for between 50-100GBP, but I would rather do it myself |
| 14:19.02 | JD | who is the random bloke? |
| 14:19.19 | Leeds | sisters b/f at the time... |
| 14:19.46 | JD | being female and all |
| 14:20.01 | Leeds | a few weeks after I was there, they went off to travel India together... after a while, he went back to .au, and she stayed... dunno what the status is now |
| 14:20.19 | Leeds | my sisters look a little alike... but the other one (younger) is bigger |
| 14:20.46 | JD | oh and she doesn't have facial hair |
| 14:21.00 | Leeds | I don't *always* have facial hair |
| 14:22.14 | JD | you don't have many pics of may animals |
| 14:22.16 | JD | many |
| 14:22.41 | Leeds | I'm not all that snappy... |
| 14:23.02 | JD | http://photos.geeksgetrevenge.com/far_east/Sydney/PA180114.html same sister? |
| 14:23.15 | Leeds | yup |
| 14:23.23 | Leeds | in a nice pizza place :-) |
| 14:23.37 | JD | which tall building did you do? |
| 14:23.50 | Leeds | the tower |
| 14:23.56 | Leeds | AMP? |
| 14:23.56 | JD | revolving? |
| 14:24.01 | JD | yep |
| 14:24.03 | JD | crap food |
| 14:24.06 | JD | don't do it |
| 14:24.15 | Leeds | didn't eat there - just went up it |
| 14:24.18 | JD | http://photos.geeksgetrevenge.com/far_east/Sydney/PA240143.html |
| 14:24.24 | JD | is that a BT logo I can see? |
| 14:24.39 | Leeds | got a combo ticket for aquarium, short harbour cruise and tower trip |
| 14:24.41 | JD | I spent 4 nights just to the left of that pic |
| 14:24.51 | Leeds | yeah, looks like BT |
| 14:24.52 | JD | Kent St |
| 14:26.02 | Leeds | if you say so :-) |
| 14:26.19 | JD | right next to the Town Hall |
| 14:26.40 | JD | spend another 4 nights in Kings Cross |
| 14:26.56 | Leeds | I stayed in Paddington |
| 14:27.16 | JD | Kings Cross is /interesting/ |
| 14:27.22 | Leeds | http://www.sullivans.com.au/homes.htm |
| 14:27.27 | Leeds | we ate there one night... |
| 14:27.56 | JD | http://photos.geeksgetrevenge.com/far_east/Sydney/PA240144.html |
| 14:28.01 | JD | basically top to that pic |
| 14:28.16 | Leeds | okay |
| 14:28.40 | JD | you see the Town Hall (old building at top) behind the new tower behind that |
| 14:28.47 | highbury | leeds I have a shell redirection question. I need to have a script send its stdout and stderr to a file but also to get stderr to be displayed on the screen, I know its some complicated "exec 9>&2" thingy, but can't quite get it right |
| 14:28.48 | Leeds | yup |
| 14:29.04 | Leeds | highbury: that's always confused me... |
| 14:29.14 | JD | highbury: I'm not sure that is possible |
| 14:29.27 | Leeds | highbury: I think what you need to do is send stdout to a file, then copy stderr to stdout, then tee stdout |
| 14:29.34 | Leeds | if you can do that... |
| 14:29.38 | JD | that could work |
| 14:29.39 | highbury | I've seen it done, I just can't remember how |
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| 14:30.05 | JD | foo > /tmp/stdout 2>&1 | tee /tmp/stderr |
| 14:30.09 | highbury | but that's cheating.. |
| 14:30.32 | JD | Leeds: can you duplicate stderr |
| 14:30.53 | highbury | I need stdout going to one file, stderr to another, yet keep stderr also going to screen |
| 14:31.30 | JD | foo 2>&1 > /tmp/stdout | tee /tmp/stderr even |
| 14:31.55 | Leeds | hmm... |
| 14:32.09 | Leeds | since when did bash have the ability to open sockets built-in??? |
| 14:32.17 | highbury | exec > output.stdout; exec 9>&2; processing 2>&1; exec 9>&- |
| 14:32.28 | JD | foo >> /tmp/stdout 2>&1 >> /tmp/stdout |
| 14:32.30 | highbury | something *almost* like that |
| 14:32.30 | skugg | Leeds, a long time. a friend of mine programmed an irc-bot in bash ;) |
| 14:32.44 | Leeds | skugg: exactly the kind of thing I was thinking |
| 14:32.54 | highbury | it has to be done in standard bourne or Ksh |
| 14:33.03 | skugg | Leeds, does it sound like bloat to you? :D |
| 14:33.17 | Leeds | highbury: write your own... |
| 14:35.16 | Leeds | hmmm... so < /dev/stderr would make a process read from its own stderr? |
| 14:35.37 | JD | er probably |
| 14:36.50 | JD | parguild020 david% cat /proc/self/fd/1 |
| 14:36.57 | JD | doesn't work sadly |
| 14:40.47 | highbury | exec 9>&2; exec 9> foo.err; some-commands # didn't put stderr in foo.err |
| 14:41.03 | murb | Leeds: it does do sockts, but it should be turned off as it isn't a very safe thing to doe tc. |
| 14:41.29 | Leeds | murb: good point |
| 14:42.44 | murb | and you can always use netcat |
| 16:25.41 | murb | is there anyway to tel lynx-ssl to verify certificate chains? |
| 16:32.09 | JD | no idea |
| 16:32.12 | JD | don't use lynx |
| 17:40.28 | skugg | http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove_list.php?form_cat=160 -- is Tcl really that evil? :) |
| 17:58.27 | Tarragon | 646 sounds interesting though |
| 18:00.55 | JD | hi all |
| 18:02.08 | JD | skugg: of course TCL is that evil |
| 18:03.20 | JD | skugg: when was the last time you programmed in Tcl? |
| 18:06.31 | skugg | JD, i've never doen it. |
| 18:07.20 | skugg | "Euler" was funny... no projects with that language :) |
| 18:13.22 | JD | or simula |
| 18:13.36 | JD | my windows box is not dialing up very fast |
| 18:13.41 | JD | I don't know why not |
| 18:13.55 | JD | but then so is this laptop |
| 18:14.06 | JD | so it might be the hone line, but then it dialed up faster before |
| 18:15.08 | JD | er p-rock has vanshed |
| 18:16.53 | JD | http://www.p-rock.tv/ |
| 18:16.54 | JD | lol |
| 18:18.07 | JD | food |
| 18:18.08 | JD | brb |
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| 18:26.14 | zachary | good evening |
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| 19:25.18 | Jenson | hey guys |
| 19:30.44 | JD | hi Jenson |
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| 19:45.23 | cozmonort | hi room |
| 19:45.48 | JD | hi |
| 19:45.55 | cozmonort | whats up |
| 19:46.02 | JD | nothing |
| 19:46.42 | cozmonort | i bought Zelda and metroid for the gamecube yesterday :-) |
| 19:47.48 | cozmonort | where is everybody ? |
| 19:49.06 | JD | Jenson is otherwise engaged atm |
| 19:49.20 | JD | don't know about anyone else |
| 19:49.44 | cozmonort | k |
| 19:50.08 | cozmonort | last thing I heard A466 was down Camden today |
| 19:51.18 | cozmonort | sdtarting to build new pc but my current 1 still isnt configured properly :-P |
| 19:52.35 | cozmonort | thinking if i should install Micro$oft on it till i know what im doing in case i break that one 2 |
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| 19:56.12 | new2unix | ibot how'd partner? |
| 19:56.13 | | bugger all, i dunno, new2unix |
| 19:56.37 | new2unix | ibot i know the feeling |
| 19:56.37 | | new2unix: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 19:57.07 | new2unix | ibot not now, maybe later |
| 19:57.08 | | new2unix: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 19:57.32 | new2unix | ibot thanks for your help, youve been great |
| 19:57.32 | | no worries, new2unix |
| 20:01.03 | cozmonort | bye |
| 20:01.30 | cozmonort | logout/ |
| 20:04.21 | new2unix | cozmonort: when i was a kid i wanted to be a cozmonort. cos i thought their boots looked cool :) |
| 20:10.19 | Clyphox | evenin all |
| 20:10.34 | new2unix | allo |
| 20:11.04 | Clyphox | Hey :-) |
| 20:11.28 | Clyphox | Fun fun fun |
| 20:11.52 | Clyphox | And they're gonna have protected mode support soon :-) aparently doom even works :-) yipee |
| 20:12.43 | Clyphox | netbsd pkgsrc ? |
| 20:12.44 | new2unix | generally upgrading and spring cleaning |
| 20:12.48 | new2unix | yup :D |
| 20:12.53 | JD | hi Clyphox |
| 20:12.58 | Clyphox | Heya JD |
| 20:13.08 | Clyphox | new2unix: do you run it on linux too? |
| 20:13.19 | new2unix | nope. |
| 20:13.21 | Clyphox | new2unix: I have alot of compile problems.. glib atm |
| 20:14.10 | new2unix | i took out the ram from my debian box to give to my windows box so now i havent got a usable linux machine :( |
| 20:14.32 | new2unix | windows wasnt contenet with 128. wanted more. hehe |
| 20:14.58 | new2unix | what sorta probs.? i'm by no means a unix guru. (read the name y'all) |
| 20:15.31 | Clyphox | Well just compile errors.. wanna see ? |
| 20:17.21 | new2unix | yeah. |
| 20:17.43 | new2unix | what does google throw up? |
| 20:18.46 | JD | I thought I had seen her somewhere before |
| 20:18.54 | JD | She was Beth in road trip :) |
| 20:28.50 | skugg | phwoar. she's fairly hot. amy something? |
| 20:29.09 | skugg | amy smart? |
| 20:29.32 | Clyphox | Who? |
| 20:29.59 | skugg | the pretty girl in "road trip" |
| 20:30.31 | Clyphox | there's only one? |
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| 20:32.49 | skugg | yeh. |
| 20:33.06 | skugg | i was right, by the way. i checked imdb.co.uk :) |
| 20:33.28 | JD | hi skugg |
| 20:33.53 | skugg | hi dave :) |
| 20:34.27 | JD | and she gets naked |
| 20:34.30 | JD | :) |
| 20:34.35 | skugg | what's this about debian testing being broken? :) |
| 20:34.56 | skugg | i was told "do not use" by a friend... seems to work fine here. |
| 20:35.35 | skugg | (famous last words) |
| 20:40.18 | Clyphox | bbiam |
| 20:42.51 | Clyphox | I'm going into town.. bbl.. |
| 20:43.32 | JD | skugg: I've not heard of anything |
| 20:44.17 | JD | there is nothing on debian-devel MLK |
| 20:45.51 | skugg | strange. debian-devel was mentioned as the source of he information... |
| 20:48.32 | JD | ciuld be the libstdc++5 thing |
| 20:52.14 | JD | but that is a sid problem |
| 20:52.23 | JD | nothing partularly recent |
| 20:52.31 | JD | like the last day or so |
| 20:52.53 | skugg | that's okay. thanks :) |
| 20:53.12 | JD | there is a problem if you are running a 386 |
| 20:54.00 | skugg | i'm not :) |
| 20:54.43 | skugg | oh yeah, i read about the 386 stuff in debian weekly news... |
| 21:04.37 | murb | the fun thing about debian is unstable and fixing it when it breaks, especally for a nice remote machine that you can't possibly get to quickly when you screw it up. |
| 21:17.56 | skugg | i'm off to do some work now. bye. |
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| 21:20.15 | JD | hi paul |
| 21:20.26 | cupis | hi David |
| 21:20.51 | JD | including MS Money 2001 |
| 21:20.54 | JD | wtf |
| 21:21.08 | cupis | heh, I remember that sort of crap |
| 21:21.27 | JD | Nt is like 9 years old at that point and MS couldn't even release a program that worked with it |
| 21:22.30 | cupis | yay, linda is being crap |
| 21:22.42 | JD | what she doing? |
| 21:22.48 | JD | wat package? |
| 21:23.02 | cupis | W: guarddog; Script ./etc/init.d/guarddog is not executable. |
| 21:23.08 | cupis | -rwxr-xr-x root/root 492 2003-05-03 22:05:02 ./etc/init.d/guarddog |
| 21:23.12 | cupis | wtf? |
| 21:23.39 | JD | clearly mad |
| 21:24.28 | JD | crazy CD Text on my CD player :) |
| 21:24.29 | cupis | *189829 |
| 21:24.37 | cupis | #189829: "Script $foo is not executable"-check suffers from severe brain damage |
| 21:24.54 | JD | but then lintain has its own fair share of craziness |
| 21:25.34 | JD | could have been embarrassing |
| 21:25.38 | cupis | JD: quite |
| 21:41.03 | cupis | highbury: did you like it? |
| 21:41.22 | highbury | yep, real cool |
| 21:41.53 | JD | I was left feeling slightly disappointed, wanting more |
| 21:42.09 | highbury | even though they've changed some of the characters, it still keeps pretty true to the essence of X-Men |
| 21:42.30 | cupis | But does Jean Gray survive? |
| 21:42.39 | highbury | I thought they managed to pack in lots of stuff, and references to studd they had to leave out |
| 21:42.41 | JD | well yeah |
| 21:42.51 | highbury | to come back as Phoenix? |
| 21:42.58 | JD | pretty much gives that clue away |
| 21:43.14 | JD | whatstuff did they leave out? |
| 21:43.38 | highbury | they nicely hinted as much, but I'm not sure how far they can go with the Dark Phoenix scenario |
| 21:44.01 | highbury | Hank McCoy gets a fleeting appearance |
| 21:44.14 | JD | Hank? |
| 21:44.21 | JD | is that pyro? |
| 21:44.25 | highbury | The Beast |
| 21:44.36 | JD | ? |
| 21:44.48 | highbury | the guy who's blue super-intelligent guy in the cartoons |
| 21:45.10 | highbury | the main thing, is did non-comic geeks enjoy it? |
| 21:45.20 | highbury | blue -and furry |
| 21:45.29 | JD | I went with my e |
| 21:45.34 | highbury | I enjoyed it as an ex-comic geek |
| 21:45.34 | JD | she seemed to enjoy it |
| 21:45.38 | JD | my ex |
| 21:46.58 | JD | there is the blue thing at the start |
| 21:47.02 | JD | nightcrawler |
| 21:47.15 | JD | and a couple of references to ShadowCat? |
| 21:47.41 | cupis | JD: nightcrawler was in the whole film |
| 21:48.00 | JD | I should learn peoples name and not just watch Evlolutions |
| 21:48.21 | JD | cupis: I know |
| 21:48.32 | JD | there was the metal bloke |
| 21:48.55 | JD | who is that? |
| 21:49.45 | JD | is there a list of characters anywhere? |
| 21:50.57 | cupis | web site? |
| 21:51.17 | JD | yeah |
| 21:53.19 | zachary | I'm off to bed, good night |
| 21:53.31 | JD | hmmm this all seems confusing |
| 21:53.41 | JD | [21:59] <Jenson> im busy flirtingansd checking out tom lok |
| 21:53.47 | JD | oops |
| 21:54.02 | JD | bloody windows cutnpaste |
| 21:54.16 | JD | Phoenix is a code name taken by at least two featured characters in X-Men titles. |
| 21:54.19 | JD | Jean Grey-Summers is a currently active team member of the X-Men. She is a powerful telekinetic and psi talent. |
| 21:54.22 | JD | Rachel Summers, her daughter in an altered timeline, is also often called Phoenix II and has similar superpowers. |
| 21:54.25 | JD | Another entity took the form of Jean Grey and codename of Phoenix for a time and later became Dark Phoenix. |
| 21:54.36 | JD | so that is 3 people called phoniex? |
| 21:54.52 | JD | how are people meant to follow this? |
| 21:55.05 | cupis | they should rename pheonix to thunderbird |
| 21:55.18 | cupis | ? |
| 21:55.49 | JD | so what happened to sabretooth in the new film? |
| 21:55.53 | JD | and the toad thing |
| 21:56.16 | JD | I can only assume they couldn;t get the actors |
| 21:56.50 | cupis | They weren't showwn as dying, but they also were not shown as surviving the first film after the Liberty scene |
| 21:57.21 | cupis | Only Magneto and that blue shapeshifter were shown as surviving. |
| 21:58.40 | JD | nihtcrawler was not furry in the film |
| 21:59.27 | cupis | perhaps a reference to the sfx when he teleported? |
| 22:00.05 | JD | ? |
| 22:00.16 | JD | nightcrawler is clearly meant ot be furry |
| 22:00.22 | JD | be he wasn;t in the film |
| 22:00.36 | JD | just blue skinned with what I assume are scars |
| 22:00.50 | cupis | Seemed like he tatooed himself or something. |
| 22:01.03 | cupis | "one for every sin, so quite a lot" |
| 22:01.35 | JD | yeah |
| 22:01.48 | JD | but they seemed to be raised which i why I thought scars |
| 22:02.06 | cupis | could have been tatoos, scars, burns etc... |
| 22:03.52 | JD | the steel bloke was colossus |
| 22:04.02 | JD | could have more about him in the film |
| 22:05.43 | JD | the nightcrawler scene at the start was rather cool |
| 22:06.17 | cupis | I think they probably wanted to minmise "new" characters this time round. Plenty of thime for them in "X-Men 17: The new generation" etc |
| 22:07.07 | JD | like who is cable? |
| 22:07.14 | cupis | JD: why? |
| 22:07.36 | JD | I feel I'm missing out |
| 22:08.26 | JD | I donlt remember Jubilee, Siryn, beast or Gambit |
| 22:20.12 | JD | grrr all these sites on geocities with a quota |
| 22:40.56 | JD | okay the X-men are way too confusing |
| 23:27.14 | *** join/#gllug enoma (~new2unix@dsl-217-155-250-139.zen.co.uk) |
| 23:27.37 | *** join/#gllug new2unix (~new2unix@dsl-217-155-250-139.zen.co.uk) |
| 23:29.31 | new2unix | HEllo? |
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| 23:32.58 | Jenson | hiya new2unix |
| 23:37.38 | Leeds | foo |
| 23:37.50 | new2unix | hiya |
| 23:38.15 | Jenson | im at alex's |
| 23:38.25 | new2unix | who's alex? |
| 23:38.28 | Jenson | gotta go now though, supposed to be watching a movie with Tom |
| 23:38.41 | new2unix | trying to figure out hot to use irssi :D |
| 23:38.50 | new2unix | who's tom? |
| 23:39.04 | Jenson | a4266 and resuDaed |
| 23:39.18 | new2unix | cool |
| 23:39.32 | new2unix | so which one is tom? |
| 23:39.42 | Jenson | resuDaed |
| 23:39.57 | new2unix | and who is a4266? |
| 23:40.07 | new2unix | didnt know he had a twin |
| 23:40.07 | Jenson | alex |
| 23:40.12 | new2unix | Oh. |
| 23:40.43 | new2unix | sorry. havent had sleep in over a day. |
| 23:40.53 | Jenson | lol its ok |
| 23:41.12 | new2unix | had adsl setup yesterday. just upgrading my boxes at the mo and trying out new stuff |
| 23:41.33 | Leeds | ibot tell new2unix about sleep |
| 23:42.09 | new2unix | ibot tell Leeds about food |
| 23:42.17 | Jenson | cya |
| 23:42.25 | new2unix | bye |
| 23:42.47 | Leeds | ibot tell new2unix about pie |
| 23:42.57 | Leeds | ibot pie |
| 23:42.57 | | 3.1415926535897932384626433832795 |
| 23:43.06 | Leeds | hang on |
| 23:43.07 | Leeds | ibot pie |
| 23:43.07 | | When you come back, bring pie! |
| 23:43.12 | Leeds | ibot pie |
| 23:43.13 | | When you come back, bring pie! |
| 23:43.18 | Leeds | ibot pie |
| 23:43.19 | | 3.1415926535897932384626433832795 |
| 23:43.24 | Leeds | bah |
| 23:43.35 | new2unix | ibot tell leeds to wash his sticky fingers |
| 23:43.38 | Leeds | ibot pie |
| 23:43.39 | | Leeds ate all the pies |
| 23:43.46 | Leeds | there we go - that's the one I was after |
| 23:44.30 | new2unix | ibot tell leeds about StickyFingers |
| 23:46.46 | Leeds | ibot kill new2unix |
| 23:46.47 | | ACTION slits new2unix's throat |
| 23:47.03 | new2unix | ibot new2unix |
| 23:47.03 | | hmm... new2unix is new to unix :), or new2linux |
| 23:47.19 | Leeds | ibot Leeds |
| 23:47.19 | | [leeds] a bloke called Richard in the UK or spending too much time playing with expensive electronic toys or a genius or whatever you want him to be |
| 23:47.23 | highbury | nightcrawler and mystique are related |
| 23:47.48 | highbury | leeds your allowed to talk to ibot privately ... ;) |
| 23:47.59 | Leeds | I know... |
| 23:48.11 | new2unix | does ibot have a man page? |
| 23:48.17 | Leeds | I apologise if I got in the way of all the fascinating conversation around here |
| 23:48.20 | Leeds | ibot ibot |
| 23:48.21 | | ibot is, like, a blootbot now, no longer an infobot. run by BZFlag (TimRiker) on his server. see blootbot also http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ it uses SQLite but can use MySQL or other SQL for storage. |
| 23:48.26 | highbury | :-P |
| 23:49.06 | new2unix | ibot seeya |
| 23:49.06 | | new2unix: no idea |
| 23:51.35 | Leeds | Banzai is very very strange |
