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00:00.30JDback
00:00.37JDgood
00:01.00JDyou should be able to change the root password
00:02.11SpudUAwayWith passwd ?
00:02.59JDwith vi
00:03.16JDassuming /etc is writable
00:03.23JDyou could use passwd
00:03.51JDis passwd on /sbin?
00:04.04SpudUAwayreed only
00:04.18SpudUAwayno, looked there.
00:04.56JDtehn vi it is
00:05.11JDfsck / first and then run
00:05.26JDmount /dev/hda1 / -orw,remount
00:05.37JDmay be -o<space>
00:06.59SpudUAwayWhat do I pass to fsck? A partition or a device?
00:07.59JDdevice
00:09.15murbSpuduaway: don't have it mounted at the time.
00:09.47JDmurb: it is /
00:09.55JDrather hard to not have it mounted
00:09.57SpudUAwayAh, well I can browse it, so it must be mounted.
00:10.00JDit is ro
00:10.07JDSpudUAway: ignore murb
00:10.17JDhe talks rubbish :)
00:10.31SpudUAwayRather hard to ignore Murb!
00:10.38SpudUAway;-)
00:11.16JDtrue
00:11.27SpudUAwayAnyhow, it comes back with an error, can't read the superblock.
00:11.48JDer that is bad
00:12.20SpudUAwayIt's a SuSE install, it may have defaulted to Reiser.
00:12.35SpudUAwayI can see no tools for Reiser :-(
00:12.58JDyou should have fsck.reiser
00:13.12SpudUAwayShould, yeah.
00:13.49JDalthough you can tell what fs you are running by running mount
00:16.52SpudUAwaydmesg only mentions ext2 & 3
00:18.42JDcat /proc/mounts
00:19.12murbJD: fscking mounted partition is bad juju
00:19.17murbwhatever you may say.
00:19.59JDmurb: how do you fsck /?
00:20.46murbreadonly atleast
00:21.00murbotherwise panic
00:21.16murbbetter than using fucked tools to look at a fucked fs
00:21.44JDit is readonly
00:22.23JD[01:04] < SpudUAway> reed only
00:22.42murbuse a knoppix cd or somthing.
00:22.52murband what is the problem
00:23.01JDlooks fscked
00:23.50SpudUAwayConsidering the number on Knoppix disks I've handed out in the last 9 months, what do you think the chances are of me finding one now?
00:24.33murbtending towards 0
00:24.50JDSpudUAway: I would suggest that you mount /usr
00:25.13JDmv all in /usr to /usr/usr and hten copy all form / to /usr
00:25.28JDand hten boot form the new root partition
00:25.47JDreformat /de/vhda1 and hten move it back again
00:25.56JDassuming that fs is fscked
00:26.21JDI would fsck /var first too
00:28.04JDI would fsck /usr first too
00:28.11JDdammit this typing
00:28.42SpudUAwayFound it!
00:29.41SpudUAwayMy club hammer, I've found it, I'm going to fsck it with my club hammer!
00:30.31JDif you still have problems
00:31.00JDcopy / to a new partition, reboot, mkfs and copy it back :)
00:31.04JDnight all
00:31.26SpudUAwaynight
00:31.34JDSpudUAway: I'll leave you in murb in^H^Hcapable hands :)
00:36.45murbJD: wanta beer with that?
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07:10.26zacharymoin
07:11.33SpudUAwayHi
07:11.39murbmoin
07:11.48SpudUAwayYou had any GLLUG mail list stuff through yesterday?
07:11.55SpudUAwayLast I got was Tue, 13 May 2003 20:56:41 +0100
07:12.32SpudUAwayThat was the only yesterday.
07:13.19murbsurly that is either a good thing or somthing broke?
07:14.29SpudUAwaymurb: Do you agree though? Have you had mail?
07:17.09murbI'm just checking
07:17.41SpudUAwayYou mean you'ld not notice??? It's like having a big hole in my life!
07:18.09murbmost recent is Tue, 13 May 2003 20:56:41 +0100
07:18.27SpudUAwayHow many yesterday though?
07:18.37murbso maybe somthing did break, but don't send is this broken to the list, you'll look like an idiot when it reworks
07:18.40zacharySpudUAway: Calm down, it will be ok. We're here for you!
07:18.53SpudUAway;-)
07:20.48SpudUAwayYou lot are good but I need my daily dose of Brice and Neil too!
07:21.14zacharylast message on the list.fteck.net is May 13, 21:00:03 by Adrian
07:21.44SpudUAwayI just had one message yesterday.
07:22.15SpudUAwayMust go fight with children!
07:56.56murbwhat is the score so far?
07:57.37zacharymurb: What match, SpudUAway vs. Children?
07:59.20murbyeah.
08:08.58JDmoin
08:09.54dankolbMorning
08:10.27JDSpudUAway: did ya fix it?
08:25.47SpudUAwayThey won, about 10 years ago. Now they're just going for blood.
08:26.30SpudUAwayJD, no. There wasn't much on the machine so a re-install seemed like a quicker option.
08:38.23JDquitter
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08:41.28SPQRmornin'
08:42.16dankolbhi
08:50.39SpudUAwayJD, I am, but it was my only option in the end. Next time will be different because next time I will have heard your talk at GLLUG about disaster recovery.
08:51.04dankolbIs JD giving a talk too now?
08:51.22SpudUAwayNot this meeting I suppose, the next maybe.
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08:51.46dankolbAh okay :)
08:58.36JDah crap how did that happen
08:59.17murbbeware of low talks.
08:59.42dankolbBeware of low-flying butterflies
08:59.49murbdank: are you going to mention RtConfig in your talk?
08:59.55dankolbNo
09:00.48murbif someone does a iptables talk they'll have to use it
09:00.55dankolbWhy?
09:01.08murb'cos it is cool, and forces people to learn about irrtool which is cool.
09:01.10murbset
09:01.20dankolbhttp://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/db/irrtoolset/documentation/RtConfig.html
09:01.31dankolbRtConfig analyzes the routing policies registered in the Internet Routing Registry (IRR) and produces router configuration files.
09:01.42murbdankolb: well googled!
09:01.46dankolbThank you :)
09:02.05murbyou can put nice things like @RtConfig printPrefixes "/sbin/iptables -A KILL -j DROP -s %p/%l\n" filter as786 in your config file.
09:02.13dankolbAh :)
09:02.24dankolb%p/%l is IP/NETMASK?
09:03.27murbyeah
09:04.20JDso what will that output?
09:04.40dankolbSo you can probably do the same with pfctl -a <anchor>
09:04.59JDis as786 a ASN number?
09:05.12JDie you can filter out particular networks?
09:08.57murbyeah 786 is janet :)
09:09.31murbbut if you have your own private RIPE whois it suddenly becomes much more useful.
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09:40.15JDinternet fell over *again*
09:44.17dankolbHeh
09:51.08JDbloke coming out to look at it tomorrw
09:51.32dankolbSet up a webcam. Then everyone can look at it
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09:53.45zachary_dankolb: ok to send the dia?
09:53.57dankolbSure
09:55.07JDdankolb: ?
09:55.17JDwhy would you want to look at a satellite dish?
09:55.28dankolbWe can all look at your 'net connection then
09:55.40dankolbThank'ee
09:56.28zachary_I'm not going to use it for my talk, feel free to delete/modify anything you want.
09:57.04zachary_bbl, going to try and pursuade my duaghter to take a nap
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09:57.46formiulo
09:57.58dankolbhi
09:58.40formii hate early morning support calls!!!
09:59.38formidankolb: do you know where i can find redhat 7.3 security updates?? up2date keeps saying the servers are too busy
10:00.11dankolbAny one of the RedHat mirrors?
10:01.04formitheir mirrors are too busy
10:01.07dankolbftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/updates
10:02.22formithanks
10:02.32dankolbnp
10:02.57formii checked a few others, including rpmfind and couldn't find what i was looking for
10:03.57dankolbAh
10:07.03formixinetd updated now
10:08.19forminot much traffic on the gllug list nowadays
10:08.36TarragonSo write something
10:09.12dankolb:)
10:09.46ClyphoxHowzit
10:09.57dankolbYo
10:10.14dankolb11:10AM  up 22 days,  2:18, 11 users, load averages: 4.87, 3.31, 2.91
10:10.28formiTarragon: inflamabel stuff??
10:10.35TarragonDo you mean the number of messages is less per day, they are too off topic or that there is less interest in the current messages for you?
10:10.51formitotal number of posts
10:13.19Clyphox11:20AM  up 6 days, 49 mins, 6 users, load averages: 5.05, 3.49, 2.93
10:17.40formii had over 8 months on a samba box until the cleaning lady decided the hoover was more important
10:21.31ClyphoxI have 3years on one.. thanks to UPS and dumb users.
10:22.30Clyphoxin fact I nearly had 2 years on one in a doctors surgery untill I noticed the removeable ide hdd bay was pulled out.
10:30.03dankolbHeh
10:31.23SPQRyo
10:32.19dankolbYo
10:35.44SPQRyou ever have any probs with slack after adding lines to ip-up script?
10:36.24Clyphoxwhat probs?
10:36.31dankolbI don't recall adding lines to the ip-up script
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10:37.41SPQRClyphox : its with the odsclient. I added it, and then fetchmail stoped working!!
10:38.45ClyphoxI wish I could help. But Madam nikki is about to kill me.. got to get off my arse now..
10:38.52dankolbHeh. Being lazy?
10:39.03SPQRI've ended up using cron jobs to keep it going :/ Also damand dialing gas decided not to work properly
10:39.09SPQRlol
10:41.30SPQR*hands even
10:47.34dankolbClyphox or SPQR: Do either of you have access to a Win98 system?
10:51.40SPQRyup
10:52.15SPQRhow can I help?
10:53.28dankolbAny chance of a copy of shell32.dll ?
10:53.45dankolbFrom c:\windows\system
10:54.47SPQRgive me a few min :) You'll ave to help me with the dcc'ing of it though
10:56.12SPQRok, I have the file
10:56.15dankolbThanks :)
10:56.25dankolb<PROTECTED>
10:57.42cupinfo dcc
10:57.55cuphate it when that happens
10:59.09SPQRhmmm.. doesn't like it. It's telling me the file isn't there even though I can see it...
10:59.37SPQRrestart BitchX?
10:59.59dankolb<PROTECTED>
11:01.32SPQRstill not having it :(
11:03.26SPQRgive me a few min and I'll try putting it on my server at home...
11:04.54SPQRcan ya help me with scp? I don't know how to use it either :/
11:05.27dankolbscp shell32.dll spqr@home:
11:09.49SPQRsorry 'bout the delay, but I', still trying to work out where its put it now
11:09.55dankolbInto your home directory
11:10.05SPQRthx
11:10.14dankolbUnless you specified a path after th :
11:10.16dankolb*the :
11:11.07SPQRI think I forgot the :
11:11.15dankolbAh.
11:11.26dankolbThen it'd just have copied the file
11:11.31SPQRits going though now :)
11:11.54SPQRI'll have it up for ya in a few min now :)
11:12.21dankolbThanks :)
11:13.33SPQRhttp://www.starkfamily.net/archive/
11:13.45SPQRits in there :)
11:14.52dankolbThanks :)
11:15.47SPQRgot it?
11:16.27dankolbNot yet - give me a min
11:17.21SPQRoklies
11:18.22dankolbIt's going very slowly
11:18.51SPQRI thinks it 'cause David's getting his archive off there at the mo....
11:18.57dankolbAh
11:19.19SPQRhe's still got a few gigs to go at 15k
11:19.32SPQRbbl
11:19.48dankolbThanks :)
11:19.49dankolbcya
11:20.52SPQR|lundunnp :)
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11:35.03JDbtcentralplus?
11:35.31Paulhello all, I am having a little prob with fetchmail can anyone help?
11:35.53JDpossibly
11:36.56Paulwhen I run fetchmail, I get the message "fetchmail: can't even send to Paul!"
11:37.13Paulmy home directory is /home/Paul
11:42.00JDtelnet localhost 25
11:42.13JDEHLO bob
11:42.23JDMAIL FROM: foo@foo.com
11:42.35JDRCPT TO: Paul@localhost
11:48.07Pauleh?
11:55.47Clyphoxdankolb: what on earth do you want that for?
11:56.26dankolbTry and get IE to run under Wine
11:57.22ClyphoxAhh..
11:57.29ClyphoxI would just use boch/vmware
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12:01.35dankolbGrr. Notes--
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13:06.00zacharybbl, grocery shopping
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13:58.03jensonheya guys
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14:01.06jensonhiya skugg
14:01.25skugghi jenson
14:01.43skugghow fscking weird is that!? -> http://freshmeat.net/projects/gal/?topic_id=45%2C98
14:02.01skuggsomebody have taken one of my projects from some time back and released it on freshmeat :D
14:02.25jensonGlad you're having fun skugg :P
14:09.20jensondamn, i thought i had chocolate in my bag but i dint put it in there
14:18.42jensonoh well, time to go BBL
15:08.56Xiaoqihi all
15:13.36dankolbHi
15:13.49Xiaoqihow is u?
15:14.55dankolbTired
15:15.05Xiaoqioh dear...
15:15.10dankolbBeen fighting with Lotus Notes most of the day
15:15.26Xiaoqiah... that doesn't sound much fun
15:15.41dankolbNot really, no
15:16.15Xiaoqidid it start it or did you?
15:16.31dankolbSort of both
15:16.45dankolbNew version of Wine stopped Notes4 from working. So I decided to upgrade to Notes4
15:19.58Xiaoqihmm...
15:20.08Xiaoqiand it didn't like it?
15:20.33dankolbNot overly
15:20.41dankolbIt's working now
15:21.42Xiaoqiwell thats good at least
15:22.20Xiaoqimy legs fell off, but I'm eating biscuits, so it's ok
15:22.42dankolbHeh :)
15:22.45dankolbToo much walking?
15:24.00Xiaoqino... just stopped working - they do that
15:24.58dankolbAh right
15:24.59dankolbYeah
15:26.11Xiaoqismile and bounce!
15:31.13dankolbBoingggg!
15:32.00Xiaoqihehehehe
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16:31.06dankolbByee
16:32.35Xiaoqibya dankolb
16:35.52JDwhy would anyone want to go to Oxford
16:35.54JDI ask you
16:36.08Xiaoqibecause they've never been there
16:36.15Xiaoqior have friends/family there
16:36.40JDand that would be to rescue them I would guess
16:37.07Xiaoqihehe
16:37.42JDasked an escaped loon for some marzipan in Sainsbury
16:37.43Xiaoqihmm...
16:37.55Xiaoqisounds like an interesting trip
16:38.05JDdid the my fingers are really a gun thing in a lift
16:38.26JDmuch to the (dis)amusement of native shoppers
16:38.50Xiaoqihmm... worrying really
16:38.56JDwhy?
16:40.20JDwhy?
16:40.46JD1) why is it worrying? and 2) why are you confused?
16:41.51Xiaoqi1 that you felt it necessary that you should do the 'my fingers are really a gun in a lift' thing
16:41.53JDdammit woman.
16:42.07Xiaoqi2 what is the sixth former clause?
16:42.10JDah okay you are a slow typer
16:42.15Xiaoqidon't you dammit woman me?
16:42.20Xiaoqi!
16:42.30JDsorry thought you had gone awol
16:42.33JD:)
16:42.44XiaoqiI should be a faster typer but unfortunately was having a conversation as well
16:42.52Xiaoqiin meat space
16:42.56Xiaoqiand that slowed me down
16:43.28JDsixth-former clause - a sixth-former may carry out any action on the grounds that it was amusing at the time and may not be penalised at a later day
16:43.40JDah okay
16:43.41Xiaoqihehehe
16:44.01Xiaoqiwisih we had that one when i was a sixth former
16:44.33JDs/becoming/being/
16:45.03Xiaoqia year ago... but should have been the year b4...
16:45.21Xiaoqiwe didn't have that rule
16:45.58Xiaoqithats a long time... so you're... 24?
16:46.02Xiaoqiish
16:46.08Xiaoqigive or take birthday
16:46.17JD25th April
16:46.17Xiaoqiyey!
16:46.31Xiaoqihappy birthday for a few weeks ago
16:46.36JDthank you
16:46.44JDyou should wish skugg one too
16:46.54JDhis is the 24th April
16:46.57Xiaoqihappy birthday skugg
16:47.09JDhe isn;t here
16:47.14Xiaoqimine was in february
16:47.19JD[16:12] -!- skugg [~stig@braut.plus.com] has quit ["leaving"]
16:47.22Xiaoqii know... but I'll forget later
16:48.42Xiaoqihehe
17:30.52JDnight all
17:30.56JDparish council meeting
17:31.00Xiaoqigoodnight
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18:03.28resuDaed|workgot caught out by the su/su - thing again
18:07.21resuDaed|workcan anyone recommend an OS that will fit comforatbly on less than 100 MB?
18:07.48resuDaed|work(and doesn't mysteriously grow on you)
18:09.07XiaoqiresuDaed|work: Clyphox says minislack
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18:36.23JensonGood evening all
18:37.32Xiaoqievening
18:37.42Jensonheya Nik. How you doing?
18:38.05Xiaoqimy legs fell off, so I'm resting while david makes lasagne
18:38.37JensonRest sounds like a good idea
18:39.01Xiaoqiyup
18:39.05Xiaoqihow was your day?
18:39.34Jensonalright, weather was disgusting.
18:40.47Xiaoqihehe
18:40.58Xiaoqitake an umbrella
18:41.05Xiaoqior a bigger coat
18:41.12Xiaoqithen you won't notice it as much
18:41.20JensonThats what full length leather coats are for
18:41.33Xiaoqior try living in Scotland, then when you get down south again, it will feel tropical
18:41.38JensonWhilst wandering around having psychotic conversations on a mobile
18:41.41A4266boo
18:41.43Jensonheya Al
18:41.55A4266'allo0 Beks :)
18:42.10Xiaoqihiya alex
18:42.21A4266Heya Nikki :)
18:42.30XiaoqiJenson: why psychotic? who were you talking to?
18:42.34XiaoqiA4266: hows it going?
18:42.43JensonXiaoqi: Ross, whilst he was stoned lol
18:42.56A4266Xiaoqi : Ok thx. Have been doing a bit of traveling again today
18:43.06XiaoqiA4266: anywhere interesting?
18:43.23A4266Warren street in london
18:43.32XiaoqiJenson: why did you bother talking to him if he was psychotically stoned?
18:43.46XiaoqiA4266: sounds like the trip of a life time ;-P
18:43.59JensonIt was me who was being a psycho, not him lol
18:44.40A4266Xiaoqi : lol, it was the first time :P
18:45.08XiaoqiJenson: what made u psycho?
18:45.15XiaoqiJenson: is everything ok?
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18:45.43Xiaoqihiya Leeds
18:45.52A4266hey Leeds
18:46.00Leedsfoo all
18:46.14XiaoqiA4266: and thats supposed to make a street in london interesting?
18:46.15Xiaoqihehe
18:47.02A4266Xiaoqi : Only if the ppl you're visting there are happy to see ya leave and sad to see ya go :P
18:47.30XiaoqiA4266: that doesn't make sense
18:48.12A4266Xiaoqi : lol. Well I went to see some of our customers there :P They were begging for me to come down 'cause they needed anti viruses installed :P
18:48.48Xiaoqiyeah... they why did you say leave and go instead of come and go?
18:48.49A4266Xiaoqi : they were sad to see me go 'cause I'm such a smooth talker :P
18:49.13Xiaoqihmm... yeah
18:49.17XiaoqiI'm gonna go and help Clyphox make dinner...
18:49.22Leedsibot netsplit
18:49.22extra, extra, read all about it, netsplit is the disease of the 21st century, or <BluefoxIcy> ....netsplit?  <Rhapsodi> nope..wasn't a netsplit..everybody just had a sudden urge for some pie.
18:49.37Xiaoqisee ya l8r
18:49.37A4266ohhhh sorry!! Just read me sentance again :/
18:49.45A4266cya Xiaoqi
18:49.54A4266clyphox... Cooking!!???
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18:50.35A4266wb :)
18:50.49Jensonty, it was being weird
18:50.52Jensonheya JD
18:50.57A4266:/
18:51.02A4266hey JD
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18:56.39A4266ibot netsplit
18:56.39from memory, netsplit is the disease of the 21st century, or <BluefoxIcy> ....netsplit?  <Rhapsodi> nope..wasn't a netsplit..everybody just had a sudden urge for some pie.
18:56.59Jensonlol
18:57.09irvined__:)
18:57.38Leedsmmm... pie
18:58.29Jensonlol which type of pie?
18:58.30A4266lol
18:58.57A4266a fuity 1..... Can't decide on rubard or berry pie...
18:59.05A4266ruibarb
18:59.11A4266*rubarb even
18:59.15Jensonrhubarb
18:59.15Leedsmeat!
18:59.39Jensons/but/by
18:59.43A4266not me
19:00.22Leedswho or what is The Rock?
19:00.28LeedsGibraltar?
19:00.29JensonThe rock is wrestler
19:00.34JensonAnd he does this song about Pie
19:00.37A4266ya, I was gonna say that 1
19:00.40Jensonwhich is all about women
19:00.50Leedsa wrestler, or a sporting actor?
19:01.11JensonLeeds: WWE 'pro-wrestler'
19:01.33Leedsso not a wrestler at all then...
19:01.43JensonI've got that track
19:02.13LeedsI actually watching TV... but that was the first thing XMMS chose to play when I loaded it :-)
19:02.46A4266hehe
19:03.01JensonBloody Konqueror, I hate it when it fscks up
19:03.08A4266?me wonders if any1 has any songs from the new matrix sound track yet?
19:03.39Leedsnah...
19:03.51Leedsgot the old one...
19:03.53A4266grrr. Can't type tonight :/
19:09.34Xiaoqipeekaboo
19:09.41A4266eek!!
19:09.46Xiaoqihehe yey
19:10.49XiaoqiA4266: david is cooking lasagne - it actually seems good
19:11.14A4266hehe
19:13.56Xiaoqileeds - I would feel sick after that much!
19:14.19Leedsit's... borderline
19:14.57XiaoqiA4266: chocolate is better than strawberry
19:15.35A4266depends which ya like ;) Would have done it with vanilla or fudge if they was any...
19:16.36Xiaoqiooh... vanilla is gooooood
19:17.09A4266s/they/there
19:20.07A4266as well as Rob Dougan - Furious Angels / I'm not driving anymore
19:31.21A4266bbl GOtta go eat
19:53.47Xiaoqiping?
19:53.57Jenson|BRBpong
19:53.58SpudUAwaypong.
19:54.03Jenson|BRBalthough im only here for a sec
19:54.03SpudUAway;-)
19:54.13Xiaoqihehe
19:54.28Xiaoqihow is every1's evening?
19:54.55XiaoqiJenson|BRB: did we need to know? from telling us you have done away with the need for a webcam
19:54.55Leedsking
19:55.01SpudUAwayHow one person can speak for a who;le room is truly amazing!
19:55.03Xiaoqikong?
19:55.20LeedsXiaoqi: I thank you :-)
19:55.27XiaoqiSpudUAway: sorry
19:55.43Jenson|BRBSpudUAway: Did you want to know did you?
19:55.45XiaoqiLeeds: Clyphox would like to know if there is a continuation to angel?
19:55.56Jenson|BRBAnbyway, back to sorting out washing
19:56.12LeedsXiaoqi: it's been renewed for a 5th (and option of a 6th) series, if that's what he/you means...
19:56.13SpudUAwayXiaoqi: I was referring to you being glad about the web cam!
19:56.50XiaoqiSpudUAway: I am glad she doesn't have one... yes
19:56.56SpudUAwayBah, J, I mean J and her no-web cam!!!
19:57.36SpudUAwayJ is glad, the whole room is too, Shirley.
19:57.47Leedsdunno - she could make some spam-cash
19:59.23irvined__i've been quite lucky actually but my last pc just wouldnt play ball with it, fortunatly i now have a working desktop again
19:59.35irvined__i might play with streaming at some point but it just updates every couple of mins atm
20:00.51SpudUAwayWe could turn the whole room into a Gnomemeeting.
20:01.26XiaoqiSpudUAway: but I'm an elf
20:01.48Leedsibot fishslap Xiaoqi
20:01.49ACTION slaps Xiaoqi up side the head with a wet fish.
20:02.00A4266what about me.... I'm a Klingon...
20:02.14SpudUAwayDoesn't that mean we just need to recompile stuff with an old C compiler?
20:02.24Xiaoqiibot: lart Leeds
20:02.36Leedsooh, painful
20:02.42Xiaoqiibot: lart Leeds
20:02.48Xiaoqibetter>
20:02.49Xiaoqi?
20:02.52Leedsibot kill Xiaoqi
20:02.53ACTION executes killall -9 Xiaoqi
20:02.57A4266lol
20:03.08A4266ibot lart Leeds
20:03.17A4266Don't pick on me family :P
20:04.02Jenson|BRBibot lart A4266
20:04.27Leedsibot brick A4266
20:04.28ACTION installs a bad bootloader on A4266 and turns A4266 into a brick
20:04.33XiaoqiLeeds: leave my brother-in-law alone!
20:04.37Xiaoqiibot: lart Leeds
20:04.44Xiaoqiibot: lart Leeds
20:04.46A4266lol
20:04.50Leedsibot insult Xiaoqi
20:04.51bugger all, i dunno, Leeds
20:04.54A4266ibot kill Leeds
20:04.56ACTION executes killall -9 Leeds
20:04.56Leedsboo
20:05.10Leedsyou can't kill me - I'm root! :-)
20:05.16A4266lol
20:05.22Jensonibot bitchslap A4266
20:05.23ACTION beats the sh*t out of A4266
20:05.57Leedsoot?
20:06.20A4266ya, a bastardized version of root :P
20:06.56A4266thats in a good way btw :P
20:07.18Leedsyou've de-r-ed me!!!
20:07.52A4266yay :D
20:08.24Jensonlol
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20:09.53A4266ibot lart Clyphox
20:09.56A4266hey new2unix|away
20:10.02new2unix|awayhi.
20:10.21Jensonhey new2unix
20:10.32new2unix|kitchenhello Jenson
20:10.37new2unix|kitchenbrb
20:11.16Leedsmmm... Buffy...
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20:14.45zacharyevening
20:14.50Jensonheya zachary
20:15.56Xiaoqihiya
20:18.09SpudUAwayWell, that's the children's tea made.
20:18.36Leedstea and biscuits?
20:20.55XiaoqiSpudUAway: what's a not poodle?
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20:21.42SpudUAwayXiaoqi: You'll have eaten Not Poodle.
20:21.46A4266wb
20:21.54Jensonty
20:22.01SpudUAwaySweet 'n Sour Not Poodle.
20:22.19Jensonpizza flavored is nice
20:22.51SpudUAwayMade from old telephone directories, allegedly.
20:22.57Xiaoqiah... they have less nourishment and taste than cardboard
20:24.11SpudUAwayAh, yeah, but that's not the skill. I mean, have you ever tried to saturate MSG into cardboard.
20:24.43Xiaoqino...
20:26.51SpudUAwayNeither have I, but Golden Wonder must have.
20:33.57Leedshttp://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/05-14-2003/0001947129&EDATE=
20:34.08Leedsbye-bye Caldera... bye-bye OpenLinux
20:35.35JensonGTG...might BBL
20:35.37Jensoncyaz
20:35.45SpudUAwayWill that legal liability extend to those customer who bought Linux off them in the first place???
20:36.17Leedsstrangely, they don't mention that
20:37.39SpudUAwayHey, the photo on that page is of Coco the Clown.
20:38.18SpudUAwaySorry, Sco logo, easy to confuse the two.
20:38.33Leedsit's not SCO...
20:38.36Leedsthe bastards
20:40.06SpudUAway'Darl McBride of Frankenstein'
20:41.41Leedsheh
20:41.43SpudUAwayI can hear the lawyers from here, when they got to the 'The company expects to report net income
20:41.44SpudUAwayof $4.0 million on revenue of $21 million.' bit saying "That's min, that's mine!"
20:43.06Leedsthe bastards
20:45.27SpudUAwayLeeds: Did you enjoy your time at Caldera?
20:45.38LeedsI never worked for Caldera...
20:45.57SpudUAwayOh.
20:46.05SpudUAwayYou worked for Sco then?
20:46.07LeedsI worked for SCO
20:46.32SpudUAwayWas it Simon T. that was with Caldera?
20:46.38Leedsnope
20:46.45Leedshe left SCO on the same day I did
20:47.17SpudUAwayOh, OK. Leeds, did you enjoy your time at SCO?
20:47.23Leedsyup, pretty much
20:47.34LeedsI'm still working with a lot of the same people...
20:47.46SpudUAwayThey weren't mad or anything back then?
20:47.51Leedsnot at all
20:48.08LeedsI like to think we did some pretty decent engineering, and the company had a proud heritage
20:48.23Leedsa lot of people have fond memories of Xenix...
20:48.32Leedsapparently... well before my time :-)
20:56.38zacharyThanks for the news link Leeds. My hopes is that IBM will buy out Caldera to avoid any more legality. (it's a long shot, I know. But one could hope.)
20:57.00Leedswe could club together at GLLUG and buy them...
20:58.06zacharyGLLUG Mutual Funds.
20:59.05Leedstheir market cap is only $40M...
20:59.29LeedsSCO made more thatn $50 revenue in a quarter in 1999/2000, I think
21:12.04zacharyI'm off to bed, good night
21:12.07LeedsEDOOFUS! :-)
21:12.13Leedswe like that
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21:44.53JDhi Paul
21:45.00JDwho shouted?
21:45.04cupishi JD
21:45.21cupisJD: noone, it just seemed that way becuase it was so quiet
21:46.14JDnah I reconnected earlier
21:46.17JDJenson said hi
21:57.14JDsomeone congratulate me then
21:57.15Xiaoqihiya every1
21:57.25XiaoqiJD: congrats!
21:58.30SpudUAwayJD: How much money did you make in back handers?
21:58.39Xiaoqihehe
22:07.19JDSpudUAway: non, but the chair got 200GBP
22:07.48Xiaoqihmm... lucrative business... hehehe
22:08.03JDpretty much everyone wanted the old chair to do it for another year
22:08.35Xiaoqiwere they good then?
22:24.40JDXiaoqi: probably not
22:27.28JDhas anyone noticed that girls have started wearing crap clothes
22:38.19SpudUAwayGive us an example.
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22:39.57enomaibot enoma
22:39.58i haven't a clue, enoma
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22:45.28XiaoqiJD: i like my clothes
22:45.47Xiaoqianyway - I'm off to bed now. night all
22:45.53SpudUAwaynn
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