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| 00:19.47 | Tarragon | Evening |
| 00:20.06 | Leeds | morning |
| 00:20.23 | Tarragon | Something like that :-) |
| 00:20.28 | Leeds | how's things? |
| 00:21.05 | Tarragon | Deadline looming so playing on the mac, fighting with Quark. But OK. You? |
| 00:21.40 | Leeds | been on holiday - got a telling-off at work before I went for not working hard enough |
| 00:22.19 | Tarragon | Bad about work but good about holiday. Where did you go? |
| 00:22.28 | murble | .es? |
| 00:22.34 | Leeds | Spain... Gibraltar (airport)... Morocco |
| 00:22.56 | murble | Tarragon: we know, Leeds IRCed on holiday. |
| 00:23.06 | murble | Leeds: howmany euros a second was that? |
| 00:23.09 | Leeds | only very briefly, to be fair :-) |
| 00:23.19 | Leeds | I paid about 1.9E for 25 minutes online |
| 00:23.40 | murble | and get you spend euros in Gibraltar? |
| 00:23.46 | Leeds | not at all |
| 00:23.48 | Leeds | Pounds! |
| 00:24.22 | Leeds | but I literally was just at Gib airport this time - walked over the border, straight into the airport |
| 00:26.11 | murble | so you didn't hear about the evil london mapping project? |
| 00:26.35 | Leeds | mapping the evil bits of london? |
| 00:26.41 | murble | the idea is to create a free map of london. |
| 00:26.50 | Leeds | oh, cool |
| 00:27.13 | murble | so people are needed to wonder about putting in names of streets, and where they connect. |
| 00:27.22 | murble | then enter into a web interface. |
| 00:27.37 | murble | Then points can be anochored by GPS ref. |
| 00:27.53 | murble | oh and to ask places for their postcodes, note pub names etc. |
| 00:28.18 | murble | I'm not sure how far the code is at the moment. |
| 00:28.30 | murble | Leeds: you don't need a GPS to help. |
| 00:28.58 | murble | just linking up streets and their names. The idea atleast to begin with is to build a graph. |
| 00:29.08 | murble | of what joins where. |
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| 06:45.30 | new2unix | woohoo! am here now. |
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| 08:11.02 | JD_ | morning all |
| 08:14.00 | sash | Morning |
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| 08:23.52 | SPQR | good moaning |
| 08:24.56 | JD | i shall say this only one |
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| 08:27.47 | SPQR | what one might this be? |
| 08:27.49 | SPQR | hey nasrat |
| 08:27.54 | nasrat | Hi |
| 08:30.43 | sash | I am disappointed with the standard of discourse in this channel. Where are the discussions about pants? |
| 08:31.24 | SPQR | lol |
| 08:35.42 | sash | SPQR: Are you a TV newsreader? |
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| 08:41.36 | dankolb | Morning |
| 08:41.55 | sash | Hello |
| 08:42.20 | JD | hi all |
| 08:42.25 | dankolb | It's my last day. |
| 08:42.27 | SPQR | sash: Sorry, no :P |
| 08:42.38 | SPQR | Mornin' dankolb |
| 08:42.56 | SPQR | dankolb: Destruction derby comes to mind ;) |
| 08:43.02 | dankolb | :) |
| 08:44.24 | sash | dankolb: And tomorrow Matthew, I will be ... |
| 08:44.31 | JD | dankolb: so you didn;t get to work out your redundancy? |
| 08:44.43 | dankolb | Why would I want to? |
| 08:44.45 | JD | hope you got paid for it |
| 08:45.21 | dankolb | Yes |
| 08:49.44 | Xiaoqi | hi all |
| 08:50.11 | SPQR | heya Nikki |
| 08:51.30 | SPQR | happy friday the 13th every1 ;) |
| 08:52.34 | Xiaoqi | hehehe |
| 08:53.23 | JD | hi nikki |
| 08:56.08 | Xiaoqi | hi JD and SPQR |
| 08:56.19 | Xiaoqi | how are you today JD ? |
| 08:57.04 | JD | sniffly |
| 08:58.38 | sash | It's supposed to be the day with the highest pollen count this yr. |
| 09:00.17 | SPQR|gone | gotta go to a customers on a moped with no exhaust... |
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| 09:19.30 | Tarragon | Anyone use the RAV antivirus package? If so what are you considering as he alternative? |
| 09:19.53 | murble | I've not. |
| 09:20.09 | murble | some of our clients use sophos |
| 09:26.28 | Xiaoqi | JD: hayfever sniffly or cold sniffly? |
| 09:27.24 | JD | Xiaoqi: hayfever |
| 09:27.40 | JD | but I've taken some Zirtec now so I'm better |
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| 09:27.55 | jason_ukfsn | morning all |
| 09:28.09 | JD | hi jason_ukfsn we were talking about you last night at Bedslug |
| 09:28.19 | jason_ukfsn | nothing good I hope ;) |
| 09:28.31 | JD | affs talk |
| 09:28.40 | JD | you and agk |
| 09:28.46 | jason_ukfsn | for a moment I read that as bed-slug. Didn't sleep well last night |
| 09:29.35 | jason_ukfsn | The talk I gave at affs was a very cut down version of the one I gave to gllug a while back |
| 09:29.43 | Xiaoqi | murble: up is bad... stay in bed!!! |
| 09:29.57 | Xiaoqi | (thats what i do when i can) |
| 09:30.08 | murble | Xiaoqi: I've sort of got to head work wards, on the off chance that boss has rembered to bring in some stuff. |
| 09:30.14 | murble | oh and probably to help him move stuff. |
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| 09:30.26 | jason_ukfsn | remember to help him open the cheque book murble |
| 09:30.29 | Tarragon | wb |
| 09:30.48 | Xiaoqi | ah... i still say bed is better |
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| 09:32.26 | sash_ | Heh |
| 09:32.45 | jason_ukfsn | and that's the taste of the whole fruit |
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| 09:33.40 | sash_ | Aargh |
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| 09:34.33 | jason_ukfsn | sash, I think you need to reset your password to something more memorable |
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| 09:35.20 | sash | Whew |
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| 09:43.31 | Xiaoqi | oh well... I'm off for the day to Edinburgh |
| 09:43.33 | Xiaoqi | bye every1! |
| 09:43.58 | Jenson | seeya |
| 09:53.22 | jason_ukfsn | so JD, what terrible things were said about me then? |
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| 09:57.45 | jason_ukfsn | welcome to this meeting of the Judean Peoples' Front. |
| 09:57.56 | Jenson | lol jason_ukfsn |
| 09:58.08 | JD | so this isn't the peoples front of Judea then? |
| 09:58.35 | JD | jason_ukfsn: nothing, just said that you did a talk on running an ISP |
| 10:01.08 | jason_ukfsn | Peoples' Front of Judea - SCO users the lot of them ;) |
| 10:04.05 | Jenson | Laters guys! |
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| 10:21.16 | SPQR | 'lo |
| 10:21.56 | dankolb | It's the popular front of Judea. |
| 10:21.58 | dankolb | SPLITTER! |
| 10:22.02 | SPQR | dankolb: what are safe dirs to del on slack? I'm on a machine that's sys partition is full... |
| 10:22.09 | SPQR | lol!! |
| 10:22.21 | dankolb | Dunno, it depends what you want to delete |
| 10:22.52 | SPQR | hmm... things that aren't needed. Like X |
| 10:23.11 | stephen | run pkgtool and see if there's anything obvious |
| 10:23.19 | SPQR | oklies |
| 10:23.33 | stephen | cos I've seen machines with hundreds of megs of uneeded stuff |
| 10:24.00 | stephen | cos my boss has no clue when it comes to installing Linux, he just slaps the CD in and hits enter a few times |
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| 10:24.18 | stephen | morning skugg |
| 10:25.12 | skugg | good morning :) |
| 10:25.15 | skugg | how's things? |
| 10:26.44 | SPQR | stephen: the only things not needed as far as I know were the games and man pages :/ I'd already removed those... |
| 10:27.14 | SPQR | I couldn't see anything for x though... |
| 10:27.46 | stephen | remove the stuff from the D series temporarily? |
| 10:27.56 | stephen | cos that takes up quite a bit |
| 10:28.16 | SPQR | k, I'll have a look at those.. |
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| 10:28.51 | zachary | moin |
| 10:28.54 | SPQR | what are the diffutills? |
| 10:28.54 | dankolb | 'lo |
| 10:29.00 | dankolb | diff, patch |
| 10:29.01 | dankolb | cmp |
| 10:29.12 | SPQR | mornin' |
| 10:29.23 | SPQR | dankolb are they anything importent? |
| 10:29.53 | dankolb | Yes if you software development |
| 10:30.15 | SPQR | I don't think they do that here... |
| 10:30.37 | SPQR | looks like that'll have to do for now... |
| 10:32.44 | SPQR | thx for the help :) |
| 10:41.40 | Tarragon | ROFL at Dean's reply to Neil Fryer on mailing list |
| 10:42.53 | dankolb | Heh |
| 10:44.50 | skugg | good one. Dean back in form. |
| 10:48.27 | jason_ukfsn | Neil does seem to seriously lack clue. I really don't understand why he feels he should be offering consultancy services |
| 10:48.45 | dankolb | A lot of consultants lack clue too |
| 10:48.55 | stephen | cos everyone these days tries to be a consultant |
| 10:52.45 | skugg | what annoys me more than Neil lacking a clue is all the people feeding their ego by helping him out, instead of telling him to actually get a fucking clue and not leech favours left right and center from gllug. |
| 10:54.04 | stephen | looks like I'm missing out by not subscribing to the main GLLUG list ... |
| 10:55.02 | skugg | stephen, not really... |
| 11:03.19 | dankolb | :) |
| 11:14.43 | SPQR | fskking moped. Can't hear anything now... |
| 11:15.44 | dankolb | Heh |
| 11:15.46 | dankolb | Pubtime! |
| 11:15.49 | dankolb | Back whenever. |
| 11:15.55 | SPQR | lucky bastard!! |
| 12:22.47 | SPQR | anybody out there? |
| 12:25.06 | zachary | yup, just updating iso's for installfest. |
| 12:30.35 | jason_ukfsn | yes, I'm out here |
| 12:31.02 | jason_ukfsn | I've been workout out a discount scheme for advance payment on the ADSL thing. |
| 12:42.33 | murble | I've gone all the way into london to find no boss, and no servers to work on. |
| 12:43.17 | chrisa_ | murble: beer later on then? or will i find you hopelessly drunk by the evening? |
| 12:44.05 | jason_ukfsn | murble: is there at least an office still? |
| 12:44.38 | murble | chrisa_: sounds like a plan. |
| 12:44.46 | murble | jason_ukfsn: we moved into what used to be the board room. |
| 12:44.57 | murble | any luck with the serial card? |
| 12:45.52 | jason_ukfsn | I've not had a chance to do anything with it yet. Lots of admin (as in paper) type work at the moment. |
| 12:46.58 | murble | ok |
| 12:52.54 | murble | at work? |
| 12:53.15 | murble | or did you have a last supp^Wlunch? |
| 12:56.23 | dankolb | yes. |
| 12:56.28 | dankolb | Pub. 2 pints and food. |
| 12:57.35 | dankolb | Bwah |
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| 13:09.27 | dankolb | Good |
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| 13:34.09 | JD | why is that good? |
| 13:34.34 | dankolb | I was down the pub |
| 13:34.36 | dankolb | I got back |
| 13:34.39 | JD | pissing his redundancy money up a wall |
| 13:34.41 | dankolb | I need to collect my stuff and things |
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| 13:34.52 | JD | and a few extra bits? |
| 13:34.58 | resuBitch | Hi all |
| 13:35.07 | JD | a cray here a SGI there |
| 13:35.15 | dankolb | Heh :) |
| 13:35.16 | dankolb | I wish |
| 13:35.35 | SPQR | 'lo |
| 13:51.42 | JD | awwwww |
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| 13:55.59 | jenson | hello JD lol |
| 13:59.09 | SPQR | is it illigal to shoot stupid customers? |
| 13:59.16 | jenson | nope |
| 13:59.20 | jenson | you've asked me that before |
| 13:59.41 | SPQR | what about stupidass customers who can't read? |
| 13:59.54 | jenson | kill em, kill em all! |
| 13:59.58 | SPQR | lol |
| 14:00.30 | JD | and therefore illegal |
| 14:00.57 | SPQR | heh |
| 14:01.12 | jenson | hheheheehe |
| 14:01.12 | JD | :) |
| 14:01.21 | SPQR | lol!! sure ya don't wanna join in? I've got pleanty of customers to spare ;) |
| 14:01.50 | JD | I have enough customers thank you |
| 14:02.48 | jenson | SPQR: You got any cute sexy men there....other thanyou I mean |
| 14:03.15 | jenson | ebay isnt geeky |
| 14:03.29 | jenson | hehehehe |
| 14:04.01 | SPQR | jenson : sorry, not at the mo ;) |
| 14:05.04 | JD | SPQR: where you work? |
| 14:05.21 | JD | where do you work anyway? |
| 14:05.29 | SPQR | JD: At a pc place in enfield. you? |
| 14:05.43 | JD | consultants in Bedfordshire |
| 14:05.53 | jenson | JD: His work is cool, well at least it is on Saturdays when I'm there to distract him. |
| 14:05.59 | JD | SPQR: like a PC worlds? |
| 14:06.43 | SPQR | JD : Even worse, small company... |
| 14:07.06 | jenson | dankolb: Bored are you? |
| 14:07.10 | JD | an PC asteroid? |
| 14:07.19 | dankolb | Yoda am I not |
| 14:07.35 | JD | bored you are? |
| 14:07.48 | SPQR | JD: Place called Duplications :P They do photo copiers and coputers as an afterthought... |
| 14:07.57 | jenson | dankolb: When you get home, you can get a nice beer and relax :) |
| 14:08.03 | JD | or even worse you bored are? |
| 14:08.11 | jenson | JD: WTF :) |
| 14:08.15 | dankolb | are bored you? |
| 14:08.25 | JD | FTW? |
| 14:09.20 | jenson | finished |
| 14:11.17 | jenson | It was an important email |
| 14:11.18 | JD | and the champagne |
| 14:11.23 | dankolb | champange out gets the |
| 14:11.35 | dankolb | Urgh. I cant sple eether |
| 14:11.57 | SPQR | HEHE |
| 14:12.07 | SPQR | stupid caps... |
| 14:12.11 | jenson | lol |
| 14:12.24 | JD | typical |
| 14:12.34 | jenson | grrr i dont want him drunk |
| 14:12.44 | JD | there is always on that doesn't bring their own drink, but drinks all the good stuff |
| 14:12.57 | jenson | JD: nah, bring orange juice... |
| 14:12.58 | jenson | lol |
| 14:14.05 | jenson | awww that email was so sweet, must stop reading it over and over though |
| 14:14.33 | SPQR | ;) |
| 14:14.55 | jenson | SPQR: I might show you later, if you want |
| 14:15.22 | SPQR | jenson: sounds like an idea :) |
| 14:16.07 | jenson | SPQR: At least I'm happy, and not crying and shit |
| 14:16.30 | jenson | Not that listening to stupid love songs helped with any of that |
| 14:17.13 | jenson | Gotta go in 5, work to do |
| 14:18.09 | SPQR | certain types of music are not suppost to be listened to at time :) |
| 14:18.25 | JD | like Busted and Steps |
| 14:18.47 | dankolb | JD: That's at *any* time |
| 14:19.17 | jenson | Well, I've got this certain taking to 'Too Much Love Can Kill You' by Queen....dankolb I blame you, you sent it to me |
| 14:19.19 | JD | ah /me mentalls replaces time with times and understands |
| 14:20.03 | jenson | heh |
| 14:20.13 | JD | cos frankly you are tiny |
| 14:20.13 | jenson | JD: You wouldnt know, you've never touched my bottom |
| 14:21.42 | jenson | I gotta go work now |
| 14:21.45 | jenson | Later guys |
| 14:25.55 | SPQR | grrr. stupid customer still things it wasn't his fault... |
| 14:26.52 | JD | of course it wasn't |
| 14:26.55 | chrisa_ | 3 |
| 14:27.00 | JD | he pays for it not to be his fault |
| 14:27.25 | JD | chrisa_: 43 |
| 14:28.21 | SPQR | hey |
| 14:28.40 | SPQR | I don't get paid enough for it not to be his fault.. |
| 14:33.09 | JD | not his problem |
| 14:39.33 | JD | we were talking about the mini-itx boxes booting from everything including USB mass storage |
| 14:39.44 | JD | and then we started talking about digital cameras |
| 14:40.10 | JD | and then I realised that the camera I am buying presents itself as a USB mass storage .... :) |
| 14:43.40 | chrisa_ | oo, must try that. apparently you can boot recent macs from an ipod, too... |
| 14:55.58 | murble | hmm colt are makign connections to me from random ip addresses. |
| 15:22.33 | JD | if you can smell my feet from there, you are in the wrong job |
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| 16:08.01 | dankolb | ho hum. |
| 16:08.03 | dankolb | I be off now. |
| 16:08.09 | dankolb | I'll see you all at some point. Some time. |
| 16:08.21 | stephen | okay, cya dan |
| 16:11.06 | resuDaed|work | hey resuBitch |
| 16:21.45 | JD | hi resu.* |
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| 16:26.58 | nasrat | hi stig |
| 16:27.42 | resuDaed|work | hey skugg_ |
| 16:30.16 | SPQR | yo resuDaed |
| 16:33.44 | resuDaed|work | hey SPQR |
| 16:38.31 | resuDaed|work | ? |
| 16:59.10 | SPQR | laterz |
| 17:06.07 | inetd-com-br | hello |
| 17:19.39 | JD | hi all |
| 17:22.15 | resuDaed|work | nobody is connected to brian.resudaed.com or mp3.resudaed.com in here are they? |
| 17:22.46 | resuDaed|work | some bastards taking all the bandwidth |
| 17:24.05 | resuDaed|work | too much lag to view logs over ssh, and no physical access for another 90 mins or so |
| 17:48.01 | JD | anyone here still? |
| 17:49.11 | stephen | unfortunately for you, I and my bad sense of humour still are |
| 17:59.21 | skugg_ | hey resuDaed|work |
| 17:59.26 | skugg_ | how's things? |
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| 18:14.48 | resuDaed|work | skugg : not too bad, my employer has gone and changed root password ... his excuse being that all people with access to the server should already have appropriate rights ... he didn't think to check who was looged in before hand ... |
| 18:15.09 | resuDaed|work | I was logged in from my lappy as root, so went and set up sudo before I logged out |
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| 18:16.44 | resuDaed|work | sudo bash -l is just a longer form of su - |
| 18:17.15 | resuDaed|work | incase you ever lose your keys, always leave the backdoor unlocked :-) |
| 18:19.12 | resuDaed|work | does anyone know how telnet/shell access is granted/revoked in RaQ4 servers? |
| 18:20.23 | resuDaed|work | (without access to the control panal) |
| 18:23.44 | skugg | resuDaed|work, heh. |
| 18:24.54 | stephen | sweet |
| 18:25.07 | JD | doing what? |
| 18:25.09 | skugg | well. the recruiter rang and told me |
| 18:25.23 | skugg | JD, starting at support, phasing into development at ktsplc.com |
| 18:25.26 | JD | hi cupis |
| 18:25.33 | cupis | hi JD |
| 18:26.03 | resuDaed|work | I need a new job |
| 18:26.10 | cupis | JD: <answer type="preemptive">no, I haven't looked at libskba yet, yes I am planning to do it soon.</answer> |
| 18:26.25 | resuDaed|work | (as most of you have probs heard 000's times already) |
| 18:26.38 | skugg | when i talked to their CEO a week ago, he was a bit concerned about me not knowing php, mysql and java... which their technology relied on ;0 |
| 18:26.57 | skugg | but i had linux experience, which was my selling point, i'm told... |
| 18:27.02 | resuDaed|work | skugg : I know them ... can he give me a job? |
| 18:27.17 | JD | cupis: wrong question. <question>do you want a bed in the dorm in oslo?</question> |
| 18:27.40 | skugg | resuDaed|work, try. apply. |
| 18:27.41 | cupis | JD: ah, I probably won't be able to go, with my current sit. |
| 18:27.52 | resuDaed|work | skugg : where they @? |
| 18:27.56 | cupis | JD: so put me down for a 'no', please :( |
| 18:28.06 | skugg | resuDaed|work, they've got offices in wembley and central london |
| 18:28.14 | skugg | ktsplec.com |
| 18:28.41 | resuDaed|work | ktsplc.com or ktsplec.com |
| 18:28.41 | resuDaed|work | ? |
| 18:28.45 | JD | which is? job? |
| 18:29.14 | skugg | resuDaed|work, first one |
| 18:29.32 | skugg | JD, yeah. i got a call from a recruiter... they've offered me a job it seems ;) |
| 18:29.50 | JD | soirry that was directed at cupis |
| 18:29.53 | cupis | JD: mostly, but non-job is just busy atm. not even sure I can get to installfest, let alone Oslo. |
| 18:30.05 | resuDaed|work | "We don't currently have any vacancies" |
| 18:30.20 | JD | resuDaed|work: of course not |
| 18:30.20 | cupis | JD: my mai backlog is ~700 atm. I never used to let it get above 100. |
| 18:30.28 | JD | they just gave it to stig |
| 18:30.37 | skugg | resuDaed|work, yeah. he said so. but apply anyway... they don't have any specific, they're looking for "jack of all trades" people... |
| 18:30.43 | JD | cupis: what are you up to atm then |
| 18:30.47 | JD | if I can ask |
| 18:30.57 | resuDaed|work | skugg : you got the email for HR? |
| 18:30.58 | skugg | JD, no... the website said that a couple of weeks ago too |
| 18:31.00 | cupis | Ah, all sorts. Job wise, or not? |
| 18:31.06 | skugg | resuDaed|work, HR? |
| 18:31.15 | resuDaed|work | Human Resources (Recruitment) |
| 18:31.21 | cupis | and somehow I got un-sub'd from debian-kde. |
| 18:31.25 | JD | bot |
| 18:31.36 | JD | lol |
| 18:31.37 | JD | both |
| 18:31.49 | skugg | resuDaed|work, i don't think they're big enough to have that... I got a call from the recruiter that got me the job. he said he'd talked to the CEO and tehy wanted to give me a job. |
| 18:31.58 | skugg | they're a pretty small company |
| 18:32.10 | resuDaed|work | so you recommend I just email the CEO? |
| 18:32.17 | cupis | well job is taking most of my weekdays, with travelling etc taken into account. Had a very busy few evening as well, for various reasons. |
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| 18:32.38 | cupis | JD: hopeing to catch up with me backlog this weekend, but I know I'll have tons to do next week as well. |
| 18:32.41 | resuDaed|work | skugg : was that through an agency? |
| 18:32.58 | JD | cupis: you need to move or learn to fly |
| 18:33.22 | cupis | JD: I was thinking of making a teleporter, but yes your ideas would be useful. |
| 18:34.44 | cupis | JD: i know the feeling :) |
| 18:35.34 | skugg | resuDaed|work, yeah, it was |
| 18:35.58 | skugg | the guy sounded really nice, really. |
| 18:36.12 | skugg | it's www.ecmsel.co.uk for interested people... |
| 18:37.35 | resuDaed|work | skugg : did you go down and meet the agency in person or was it all dealt with online? |
| 18:37.46 | skugg | Leeds, is it out now? |
| 18:37.53 | skugg | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.01 | skugg | resuDaed|work, online |
| 18:38.22 | Leeds | skugg: yeah, this afternoon |
| 18:39.08 | skugg | i read lkml more often than slashdot. |
| 18:39.29 | skugg | slashdot is usually crap IMO |
| 18:39.46 | JD | yep |
| 18:39.49 | skugg | JD, yeah.. i usually read KT, but it's been so irregular of late :) |
| 18:39.56 | JD | but if occasionaly has a moment of joy |
| 18:40.12 | skugg | i do admit to skimming the frontpage of slashdot occasionally |
| 18:40.13 | JD | not really done LT |
| 18:40.22 | skugg | but i don't ever bother reading the comments anymore |
| 18:40.37 | skugg | and most of the stuff on slashdot is from theregister.co.uk anyway... |
| 18:40.38 | skugg | ;) |
| 18:40.41 | skugg | </troll> |
| 18:40.46 | JD | only if the story lacks detail |
| 18:41.12 | JD | hmmm the hulk game tie-in |
| 18:41.39 | JD | Kernel Traffic |
| 18:41.44 | JD | Linux Weekly News |
| 18:41.45 | Leeds | kernel traffic, linux weekly news and linuxtoday |
| 18:41.49 | JD | Linux Today |
| 18:41.56 | resuDaed|work | thanks |
| 18:42.29 | Leeds | note that LWN is now a weekly newsletter/magazine with a daily newsfeed |
| 18:43.00 | JD | but a damn good weekly newsletter |
| 18:43.11 | Leeds | and is differentiated by having intelligent writers, a sense of journalistic integrity, and independence |
| 18:43.25 | JD | yep |
| 18:44.27 | Leeds | I upgraded a couple of months back... :-) |
| 18:44.42 | JD | hmmm simpsons or X-Men evolution? |
| 18:45.06 | Leeds | x-men cartoon? |
| 18:45.35 | JD | Leeds: yep, recent rubbish, but kitty is cute |
| 18:46.21 | Leeds | I donated when they had their first "we're closing next week unless we get a bunch of cash" - they gave 1-year subs to everyone who did |
| 18:46.29 | JD | so what do we thing? |
| 18:46.44 | Leeds | I'd have seen the simpsons... so I'd take the other |
| 18:47.06 | Leeds | slightly under 5 minutes to build (dep bzImage modules) a kernel :-) |
| 18:47.33 | JD | Leeds: channel 244 |
| 18:47.55 | JD | kitty/shadowcat |
| 18:48.13 | JD | Mmmmmm |
| 18:48.37 | JD | seen this one |
| 18:48.37 | Leeds | sitting on her bed? |
| 18:48.54 | JD | yeah |
| 18:50.19 | JD | betty or kitty? |
| 18:50.35 | JD | where betty is betty rubble |
| 18:50.50 | resuDaed|work | laters all |
| 18:50.53 | Leeds | um, what? :-) |
| 18:50.58 | Leeds | seeya resuDaed |
| 18:51.29 | JD | bety rubble or kitty, which is cuter? |
| 18:52.32 | Leeds | betty, I think |
| 18:53.03 | Leeds | back in a mo - new kernel coming up... |
| 18:57.24 | cupis | re |
| 18:58.35 | skugg | JD, kitty |
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| 19:00.49 | Leeds | part one done... |
| 19:01.25 | skugg | Leeds, what machine is that? |
| 19:01.33 | skugg | and what compiler? |
| 19:01.42 | Leeds | home Athlon box... |
| 19:01.44 | Leeds | gcc 3.1 |
| 19:01.47 | skugg | takes a couple of hours with my machine and gcc-3.3... |
| 19:01.52 | Leeds | (should probably upgrade that) |
| 19:02.04 | Leeds | Athlon XP 2400+ (2GHz) :-) |
| 19:02.10 | skugg | gcc-2.9 it's a lot quicker though (<30 min) |
| 19:02.22 | skugg | not that long at all actually |
| 19:06.41 | Leeds | what a suprise! |
| 19:06.44 | Leeds | DRM problems :-( |
| 19:10.29 | JD | hmmm watching recovered on bbc3 |
| 19:10.38 | JD | they have one of htose cameras on a crane |
| 19:10.55 | JD | and they just kind of ended up looking down this girls top :) |
| 19:12.10 | JD | so what do we all think of MS buying RAV? |
| 19:12.31 | Leeds | not much, really |
| 19:13.08 | skugg | who's RAV? |
| 19:13.23 | JD | small anti virus product |
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| 19:15.59 | skugg | oh. |
| 19:16.05 | skugg | well. i hope they use it. |
| 19:16.23 | Leeds | apparently they want to integrate it in Windows |
| 19:17.29 | JD | that and kill the linux version :( |
| 19:17.32 | zachary | new2unix: Good evening! Are you running a public wireless ap? |
| 19:20.48 | JD | why ishte register bothering with the story about bush falling off the segway/ |
| 19:21.11 | Leeds | arse... got to rebuild the XFree86 DRM module... |
| 19:24.34 | skugg | JD, everybody loves the US president failing ... |
| 19:24.38 | skugg | at anyhting |
| 19:25.48 | zachary | http://www.mugshots.org/misc/bill-gates.html |
| 19:25.55 | Leeds | and to be fair - he doesn't tend to disappoint his fans |
| 19:26.38 | JD | why ois he smiling in his mugshot? |
| 19:26.39 | skugg | Leeds, ;) |
| 19:27.21 | skugg | JD, maybe he just got laid ;) |
| 19:28.02 | skugg | do you find it funny that he looks about 20 years older on the photo on the left compared to the right one? |
| 19:32.18 | JD | hmmm watching film and the car had blackout windows earlier |
| 19:32.22 | JD | but now it doesn't |
| 19:32.33 | Leeds | moviemistakes.com |
| 19:32.50 | JD | he looks like micheal moore |
| 19:33.45 | JD | hmmm bowling for colunbime or minority report? |
| 19:34.03 | Leeds | not seen the former - apparently I should |
| 19:34.08 | skugg | JD, the former |
| 19:34.20 | skugg | minority report is not very good, imo |
| 19:34.27 | skugg | not seen the former though |
| 19:34.30 | JD | that is what I was thinking |
| 19:34.50 | JD | skugg: there are a lot worse films |
| 19:35.01 | JD | Leeds: I don't think it was meant to be a mistake |
| 19:35.09 | Leeds | I did enjoy MR... |
| 19:35.19 | skugg | dunno if it's because i dislike tom cruise, or if it's because he generally plays in films i don't like though... |
| 19:35.20 | JD | I think they did it on purpose so you could see is face in the car window in one scene |
| 19:35.38 | JD | skugg: it is a phillip k dick film so it can't be that bad |
| 19:35.55 | skugg | JD, what is? the former or the latter? |
| 19:36.29 | JD | skugg: minority report |
| 19:36.37 | skugg | minority report did have some cleverness in it, but ... |
| 19:36.52 | Leeds | b4c certainly isn't Phillip K Dick :-) |
| 19:36.55 | skugg | i think i'm probably biased because i don't like tom cruise |
| 19:36.55 | JD | philip k dick wrote the stories for blade runner and total recall and minorty report |
| 19:37.05 | skugg | oh. |
| 19:37.10 | JD | he died years ago |
| 19:37.16 | JD | like 1980ish |
| 19:38.05 | skugg | i see |
| 19:38.09 | JD | yet he wrote some very good stories |
| 19:47.04 | new2unix | Hi Zachary, Yes i am. how did you know? |
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| 19:48.10 | Leeds | I'm getting there... only xv not working right now |
| 19:55.49 | new2unix | brb |
| 20:03.24 | JD | but they haven't asked me for my pin yet |
| 20:06.11 | JD | hmmm a bank and licensed gun reseller |
| 20:14.02 | JD | not that anyone else is around |
| 20:14.30 | skugg | just not very active.. |
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| 20:20.14 | armijn | re |
| 20:22.24 | JD | lol some gun nut just said that htreere are some wacos out there |
| 20:24.39 | armijn | was he out there? |
| 20:24.42 | armijn | if so, then he was right |
| 20:24.43 | skugg | hehe |
| 20:27.54 | JD | lol |
| 20:27.56 | armijn | I hate reading boring papers |
| 20:27.57 | JD | this is great |
| 20:32.01 | JD | every one must see this film |
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| 20:51.37 | zachary | I'm off to bed. Good night. |
| 20:51.57 | skugg | ;night |
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| 22:11.53 | JD | hi all |
| 22:12.18 | skugg | hi jd :) |
| 22:12.54 | Leeds | have I got Bruce's news for you :-) |
| 22:13.05 | skugg | huh? |
| 22:13.17 | skugg | :) |
| 22:13.25 | JD | missed it |
| 22:13.37 | Leeds | just watched (and deleted) it |
| 22:13.37 | JD | I watched bowling for columbine |
| 22:14.04 | JD | or my parents recoreded it |
| 22:14.30 | Leeds | skugg: Bruce Forsyth (sp?) doing Have I Got News For You |
| 22:14.36 | JD | we need a family that hasn;t been on the TV forever, lets try the simpsons |
| 22:15.25 | Leeds | ? |
| 22:15.51 | JD | simpsons quote on sky one now |
| 22:15.58 | JD | the one with the reality tv show |
| 22:16.39 | Leeds | I appear to be watching Jim Carry on Jonathon Ross |
| 22:16.50 | JD | oh |
| 22:17.09 | Leeds | I wonder if he's going to ask him about Dumber and Dumbest or whatever they're calling it |
| 22:17.14 | JD | so here to advertise the film then |
| 22:17.31 | Leeds | he's not in the film |
| 22:17.46 | JD | ? |
| 22:17.48 | Leeds | they've made a prequel without the original cast, writers, directors, etc. |
| 22:18.06 | JD | but they do look like the original |
| 22:18.20 | Leeds | a bit |
| 22:18.22 | JD | quite shockingly similar |
| 22:18.29 | JD | who is the girl |
| 22:18.31 | JD | I missed it |
| 22:18.45 | Leeds | in the film? hang on |
| 22:18.52 | JD | no on the show |
| 22:18.56 | Leeds | oh, dunno |
| 22:19.04 | Leeds | I'm not actually watching it... my TiVo is |
| 22:19.18 | JD | oh |
| 22:19.33 | Leeds | I'm half-watching Grand Slam :-) |
| 22:19.41 | JD | she had very red hair |
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| 22:19.50 | Leeds | and trying to work out why my xv is screwed... |
| 22:19.52 | Leeds | hang on a mo |
| 22:19.56 | armijn | re |
| 22:20.10 | Leeds | evening |
| 22:20.12 | JD | sounds like kernmit :) |
| 22:20.13 | armijn | digital camera's are fun...too bad batteries don't last that long... |
| 22:20.46 | Leeds | the TiVo description of the show doesn't mention a girl |
| 22:20.59 | JD | nor the sky one |
| 22:21.09 | armijn | but then again, making 150 pictures on one day, with display on all time, zooming, viewing, etc. does stress the batteries probably :D |
| 22:21.27 | Leeds | the batteries on mine are okay - it's the screen which kills it, anyway |
| 22:21.31 | JD | download them and use convert :) |
| 22:22.14 | Leeds | I can do it in place on the iPAQ :-) |
| 22:23.02 | JD | blatent advert :( |
| 22:23.17 | JD | bit of a shame realy |
| 22:23.52 | Leeds | chris tarrent, jonny vegas, Jim Carry, |
| 22:24.04 | Leeds | ah! |
| 22:24.06 | JD | and coral |
| 22:24.11 | Leeds | the red-haired woman is Mrs. Ross |
| 22:24.17 | JD | oh |
| 22:24.26 | Leeds | maybe... or she's in the Coral |
| 22:24.35 | armijn | camera has got USB connection, so it's USB mass storage, should work on Linux |
| 22:24.37 | Leeds | Mrs. Ross has hair like that though |
| 22:24.43 | armijn | next gadget: Yopy... |
| 22:24.43 | JD | ibot: google for jonathon ross wife |
| 22:25.08 | JD | grrr 404 |
| 22:25.09 | Leeds | armijn: should do... see gphoto for possibly more control over the camera than just file transfer |
| 22:25.33 | armijn | leeds: but taking out CF and putting them in the reader is easy as well |
| 22:25.38 | JD | the coral have no females that I am aware of |
| 22:25.47 | Leeds | armijn: absolutely - and the iPAQ works great for that :-) |
| 22:25.54 | armijn | leeds: but you say it's the screen that takes up most of the battery? |
| 22:26.02 | Leeds | armijn: yeah... |
| 22:26.14 | Leeds | JD: Jane Goldman... (my mum's maiden name being Goldman) |
| 22:26.19 | armijn | ok, I know which button to press to disable it... |
| 22:26.30 | JD | talking about dumb and dumberer |
| 22:26.31 | armijn | just need to train on a more steady shot (some things a bit fuzzy) |
| 22:27.06 | armijn | drink less caffeine and alcohol I think |
| 22:27.26 | Leeds | ibot caffiene |
| 22:27.27 | | Leeds: I give up, what is it? |
| 22:27.33 | Leeds | ibot coffee |
| 22:27.33 | | methinks coffee is for staying awake |
| 22:27.37 | armijn | leeds: is that latest iPaq (HP H19something) supported well on linux? |
| 22:27.41 | armijn | ibot caffeine |
| 22:27.42 | | from memory, caffeine is the nectar of the gods in concentrated form or the jiuce which runs through our veins |
| 22:27.44 | Leeds | JD: http://www.befuddle.co.uk/celebs/celebs_jane_goldman.html |
| 22:28.00 | armijn | (or iPaq H91something, not sure) |
| 22:28.00 | Leeds | armijn: 1900 isn't really working yet, AFAIK - but it's being worked on |
| 22:28.20 | armijn | leeds: but that series is way cheaper than the rest |
| 22:28.46 | Leeds | armijn: which is one of the reasons it's not supported yet - it's been harder than expected to bootstrap it |
| 22:29.19 | armijn | hmm, mr McNealy in Rotterdam monday, but no time to go see him :( |
| 22:29.24 | armijn | let alone interview him |
| 22:29.50 | Leeds | armijn: http://www.handhelds.org/projects/h1900.html - the developer isn't around right now, but he's on IRC a lot |
| 22:30.06 | Leeds | JD: I like red... but it's a bit overdone |
| 22:30.53 | JD | Leeds: I was talking to someone last night about the mini-itx boxes and how they can boot from nearly everything |
| 22:31.02 | JD | including USB mass storage |
| 22:31.24 | JD | the camera I want is seen by the OS as a USB mass storage device :) |
| 22:31.25 | Leeds | oh, sure... my favourite is booting from CF with an IDE->CF adapter |
| 22:31.31 | JD | are you thinking what I'm thinking |
| 22:31.38 | Leeds | booting from a camera :-) very cool... |
| 22:32.01 | JD | red dwarf :) |
| 22:32.11 | JD | ah not for an hour |
| 22:32.14 | JD | bugger |
| 22:32.18 | armijn | well, CF is nearly IDE, so... |
| 22:32.23 | Leeds | JD: apparently Mrs. Ross is a sci-fi author :-) |
| 22:32.29 | Leeds | armijn: sure - it's easy... but it's cute :-) |
| 22:32.47 | armijn | soon I hope I can test one of those Cyclades power things... |
| 22:32.52 | armijn | remote power cycling :D |
| 22:33.37 | armijn | leeds: what do you know about Ximian Desktop for Solaris? is it nice? |
| 22:33.50 | Leeds | armijn: I know nothing |
| 22:33.55 | armijn | leeds: you're from Barcelona? |
| 22:34.36 | JD | men and motors is terrible |
| 22:34.41 | Leeds | armijn: indeed :-) |
| 22:34.56 | Leeds | well, I *was* in Spain 3 days ago... |
| 22:35.04 | armijn | leeds: ooh, where? |
| 22:35.24 | Leeds | Costa del Sol (and Gibraltar, a bit, and a day in Morocco) |
| 22:35.55 | armijn | heh gibraltar |
| 22:36.01 | armijn | never been that far south |
| 22:36.15 | armijn | too many british on the beaches as well ;-) |
| 22:36.16 | Leeds | my parents have (half) a flat down there |
| 22:37.36 | armijn | been hacking on RPMs (and related stuff) two days long |
| 22:38.04 | Leeds | I'm sorry for you... |
| 22:38.21 | armijn | well, the thing is, if you try to build RPMs on SuSE and Red Hat it can be really different... |
| 22:38.41 | armijn | as in, if you use "rpm -ta <tarball-with-specfile>" Red Hat goes fine (well, uses rpmbuild instead of rpm) |
| 22:38.52 | armijn | but if you've got other specfiles in subdirs SuSE barfs |
| 22:40.27 | armijn | it's like Java |
| 22:40.32 | armijn | "write once, test everywhere" |
| 22:40.39 | Leeds | heh |
| 22:40.52 | JD | which is one of the advantages of debs |
| 22:41.01 | JD | write once, use once |
| 22:41.13 | armijn | JD: so will Debian RPMs work on Lindows? |
| 22:41.16 | armijn | ehr |
| 22:41.16 | armijn | debs |
| 22:41.17 | armijn | sorry |
| 22:41.22 | JD | yes |
| 22:41.29 | Leeds | debian RPMs :-) heh |
| 22:41.40 | JD | you can take lindows, add a debian source and they upgrade to debian |
| 22:42.36 | armijn | well, I dislike binary packages anyway... |
| 22:42.44 | armijn | debs also have disadvantages |
| 22:42.49 | JD | armijn: so does Leeds |
| 22:42.54 | armijn | as in, dependence on the packager... |
| 22:43.05 | JD | not really |
| 22:43.07 | Leeds | JD: I have disadvantages? |
| 22:43.21 | JD | you can do non-maintainer uploads |
| 22:43.29 | armijn | and all of a sudden you get texinfo and emacs bindings everywhere, and warnings that other stuff is non-free blah blah blah |
| 22:44.00 | JD | not sure I understand |
| 22:44.09 | armijn | I dislike Debian. |
| 22:44.13 | Leeds | armijn: yay! :-) |
| 22:44.42 | armijn | because as soon as you even hint on that something in Debian might be not be that good, Debian people become very defensive |
| 22:44.46 | JD | armijn: each to their own |
| 22:44.47 | armijn | seen that countless of times |
| 22:45.10 | JD | of course |
| 22:45.22 | JD | no one like to be told that they chose a dud |
| 22:45.32 | Leeds | JD: you chose a dud |
| 22:45.35 | armijn | I mean, when I ask somewhere on what the best way to do something and I get the answer "apt-get install <blah>" |
| 22:45.42 | JD | Leeds: I would think otherwise |
| 22:45.49 | armijn | even though they know I'm working on Solaris or FreeBSD, it gets very annoying |
| 22:46.27 | JD | well in that case cd /usr/src/port/blah && make install |
| 22:46.38 | Leeds | JD: on Solaris? |
| 22:46.43 | armijn | no no, portinstall, way nicer :) |
| 22:46.51 | JD | Leeds: pgkadd blah |
| 22:47.02 | Leeds | and where do you get the packages from? |
| 22:47.04 | JD | or what ever it is on solaris |
| 22:47.15 | JD | my butt |
| 22:47.17 | armijn | hmm, still gotta install a Debian, tweak a package, play with dependencies, break Debian... |
| 22:47.17 | JD | I don't knoe |
| 22:47.21 | JD | I donlt use solaris |
| 22:47.37 | armijn | leeds: sunfreeware ;-) |
| 22:47.40 | Leeds | JD: can I have a copy of your butt for reference? :-) |
| 22:47.54 | JD | no |
| 22:48.00 | Leeds | ah, please? |
| 22:48.07 | JD | but we were talking about Jensons butt yesterday |
| 22:48.13 | JD | ask her if you can have hers |
| 22:48.22 | Leeds | does she have Solaris packages up there? |
| 22:48.31 | JD | I don't know |
| 22:48.38 | JD | she might have something else |
| 22:48.46 | armijn | OS X? |
| 22:48.46 | Leeds | we should look... |
| 22:49.02 | Leeds | you think she can fit a toaster in there? |
| 22:49.10 | armijn | leeds: you're the solaris guy, you go look |
| 22:49.24 | armijn | I'll wait here for your repor |
| 22:49.25 | armijn | +t |
| 22:49.32 | Leeds | armijn: I'll take photos :-) |
| 22:49.38 | armijn | ehr |
| 22:49.53 | Leeds | what's a digital camera for, anyway? |
| 22:50.06 | armijn | canon powershot a70 |
| 22:50.36 | Leeds | canon ixus 330 |
| 22:50.45 | armijn | ha! mine's bigger! |
| 22:50.53 | JD | pentax Optio S when I order it |
| 22:51.00 | JD | mine will be smaller |
| 22:51.06 | Leeds | mine's smaller! on purpose - I wanted a small one |
| 22:51.21 | armijn | well, this one isn't that large... |
| 22:51.28 | armijn | it works for me |
| 22:51.39 | JD | mine is the size of a credit card and about 10mm think |
| 22:51.49 | JD | plus 3x optical zoom |
| 22:51.59 | armijn | JD: how many pixels? |
| 22:52.04 | Leeds | http://photos.geeksgetrevenge.com/fosdem2003/Saturday/img_0065.html |
| 22:52.07 | JD | 3/.2 |
| 22:52.14 | JD | git |
| 22:52.24 | armijn | that's not too many...or is that millions of pixels? |
| 22:52.30 | Leeds | just showing what the camera can do :-) |
| 22:52.42 | JD | ibot: kill Leeds |
| 22:52.43 | | ACTION executes killall -9 Leeds |
| 22:53.13 | armijn | JD: and it cost you a kidney? |
| 22:54.23 | armijn | heh, will try out if mine will survive festivals and concerts... |
| 22:56.22 | JD | armijn: 249+vat |
| 22:57.33 | Leeds | mine was about that - about 280 inc VAT |
| 22:59.33 | armijn | hmm...1 pound is 1,5 EUR right? |
| 22:59.43 | JD | http://www.pentax.com/products/cameras/camera_overview.cfm?productid=18263 |
| 22:59.47 | JD | about that |
| 22:59.51 | JD | 1.5-1.6 |
| 23:00.09 | armijn | I need bc for that |
| 23:00.10 | armijn | man... |
| 23:00.31 | armijn | hmm, about what I paid as well |
| 23:01.37 | JD | mind you that is trade |
| 23:01.45 | JD | shops have it for 350 |
| 23:01.59 | JD | but then you never buy from currys or dixons |
| 23:02.08 | armijn | nope |
| 23:02.14 | Leeds | a euro is almost exactly 0.7 GBP |
| 23:02.20 | armijn | dixons has "my" camera for EUR 450... |
| 23:02.22 | JD | despite the fact I have it on DVD |
| 23:02.25 | armijn | 460 even |
| 23:02.25 | Leeds | I bought mine from Amazon - the cheapest place I could fine |
| 23:03.03 | JD | they have none in stock atm |
| 23:03.07 | JD | should be 10 days or so |
| 23:03.09 | Leeds | I collected my camera from the post office on the Friday morning before FOSDEM |
| 23:03.21 | JD | :) |
| 23:03.30 | JD | so you only had it a week? |
| 23:03.34 | JD | or that day? |
| 23:03.49 | JD | Leeds: Film Four Weekly if you have it |
| 23:04.08 | Leeds | that day |
| 23:04.15 | Leeds | good movie? |
| 23:04.20 | JD | you must have got there early |
| 23:04.23 | JD | yeah |
| 23:04.24 | Leeds | 7am |
| 23:04.29 | JD | it is slow but good |
| 23:04.39 | JD | about the same tiem I got to Waterllo |
| 23:04.47 | JD | well about 1hour before |
| 23:05.30 | Leeds | was on 10am-ish train which was cancelled |
| 23:06.19 | armijn | where did you guys stay then? |
| 23:06.23 | armijn | @ FOSDEM |
| 23:06.49 | armijn | youth hostel? |
| 23:06.58 | JD | Atlas |
| 23:07.00 | Leeds | atlas |
| 23:07.08 | JD | Leeds: yeah so was I |
| 23:07.16 | armijn | ok, I think that was where Bram Moolenaar was staying as well :) |
| 23:07.19 | Leeds | TiVo has been informed about Ghost Dog |
| 23:07.24 | JD | remember I was the person you hadn;t met before |
| 23:07.37 | Leeds | JD: yeah, I know... you and cupis |
| 23:07.41 | JD | armijn: it is where everyone famous was staying |
| 23:07.52 | JD | had you not met cupis before? |
| 23:07.57 | Leeds | nope |
| 23:07.58 | armijn | ah, met lots of famous people? |
| 23:08.06 | JD | yep |
| 23:08.09 | armijn | I mean, must be really cool to see all those famous people... |
| 23:08.28 | Leeds | armijn: see Friday night dinner from 2002: http://photos.geeksgetrevenge.com/fosdem/ |
| 23:08.37 | armijn | 2002 even... |
| 23:08.43 | Leeds | Miguel, Andy Oram, Phil Hazel... |
| 23:08.56 | JD | was phil hazel there? |
| 23:09.00 | JD | or was that last year? |
| 23:09.04 | armijn | 2002 |
| 23:09.10 | JD | ah |
| 23:09.13 | Leeds | 2002 he was there, and ukuug |
| 23:09.14 | JD | that makes sense |
| 23:09.23 | Leeds | nice bloke |
| 23:09.37 | JD | that sould be better |
| 23:10.10 | Leeds | http://photos.geeksgetrevenge.com/fosdem/fosdem-002.html - and a couple of sad British journos as well :-) |
| 23:10.13 | armijn | I helped the (then) editor-in-chief of linuxuser to interview miguel |
| 23:10.41 | Leeds | miguel is a bit of a nutter |
| 23:10.42 | armijn | miguel knows his stuff |
| 23:10.55 | Leeds | in a good, manic way |
| 23:10.59 | armijn | and s a bit overenthusiastic yes :) |
| 23:12.24 | JD | like a camera |
| 23:12.37 | Leeds | oh, sure... had the TiVo for years now |
| 23:12.47 | armijn | leeds has to omany toys |
| 23:13.09 | Leeds | feels strange watching normal TV now... seriously - I'm used to pausing it, skipping ads, and so on |
| 23:13.09 | JD | I need to pay for Oslo and Edinburgh |
| 23:13.26 | Leeds | not going to Oslo... and work should pay for Edinburgh |
| 23:13.30 | armijn | I'm wondering, actually hoping, that Sun Ray like things will come out with Linux or BSD support...and lots and lots cheaper |
| 23:13.40 | JD | Leeds: I wouldn;t expect you to |
| 23:13.47 | JD | it is debcamp/debconf |
| 23:14.05 | armijn | heh, you both going to edinburgh? |
| 23:14.14 | JD | yep |
| 23:14.16 | Leeds | certainly planning on it - noticed you're on the program |
| 23:14.44 | armijn | yeh, I spent reading papers today, you know, to mention as "related work" and stuff |
| 23:14.58 | Leeds | suer |
| 23:15.12 | armijn | pretty boring...and fixing RPMs in the meantime... |
| 23:15.14 | Leeds | hmm... memento - not seen that |
| 23:15.31 | JD | make sure you watch the whole thing in one go |
| 23:15.45 | JD | I didn;t and I think that ruined it for me |
| 23:16.10 | Leeds | TiVo will grab it for me :-) |
| 23:16.11 | armijn | reading a 90 page paper, so you can quote maybe one block from it... |
| 23:18.27 | JD | before you maon |
| 23:18.41 | armijn | I don't moan, I don't use Debian :D |
| 23:19.02 | JD | nah but I'm sure leeds would moan that debian is broken |
| 23:19.16 | Leeds | blah blah blah |
| 23:19.33 | armijn | I must say, I'm pretty pleased with RH 9 lately...I used kickstart for installing the machines, works pretty sweet |
| 23:20.37 | armijn | oooh |
| 23:21.18 | armijn | I think I call it "heaven" |
| 23:21.38 | JD | that would be *sweet* |
| 23:21.55 | armijn | not many BIOSen support booting from USB yet right? |
| 23:21.59 | JD | oh of course |
| 23:22.12 | JD | like you haven't rebooted atleast twice this evening :) |
| 23:22.33 | JD | armijn: no, but some of the mini-itx boxes dp |
| 23:22.33 | armijn | BIOS of a new PC at home supports booting from LS120...but not sure what that is |
| 23:22.46 | armijn | (I think LS120...or something like that) |
| 23:22.49 | JD | it si a large floppy disk thing |
| 23:23.04 | JD | reads standard floppies and disks with 120M capatricy |
| 23:23.13 | armijn | ah, ok...don't have that... |
| 23:23.16 | JD | like a zip drive |
| 23:23.30 | JD | just bigger and fdd compatible |
| 23:24.49 | armijn | not very common then... |
| 23:24.54 | JD | nope |
| 23:24.57 | JD | vary rare |
| 23:25.06 | JD | having said that I fitted 2 last week |
| 23:28.46 | JD | back |
| 23:29.26 | armijn | was fun? |
| 23:30.35 | JD | not really |
| 23:30.38 | JD | is it ever |
| 23:30.54 | armijn | well, if you really need to go badly |
| 23:31.09 | JD | still don't think it is fun |
| 23:31.27 | armijn | brush teeth, brb |
| 23:37.12 | armijn | bedtime for me |
| 23:37.28 | armijn | should not drink caffeine anymore at 5pm...makes me hyper |
| 23:37.48 | armijn | think I'll go to bed and start reading about UNIX shell tools or so...that should make me sleepy |
| 23:37.52 | armijn | cu! |
| 23:37.53 | *** part/#gllug armijn (~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl) |
| 23:41.40 | Leeds | I have an LS120 somewhere... |