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| 06:55.08 | zachary | moin |
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| 07:21.05 | jason_ukfsn | good morning all |
| 07:21.42 | Tarragon | Moin |
| 07:31.58 | zachary | moin jason_ukfsn |
| 07:33.38 | jason_ukfsn | how's yer back zachary? |
| 07:34.10 | zachary | little stiff this morning, but better than the previous morning. |
| 07:43.35 | jason_ukfsn | I need to go - have to attend my sons school assembly. Cya later |
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| 07:58.42 | zachary | moin SpudULike |
| 08:07.49 | SpudULike | Hi |
| 08:08.12 | SpudULike | Still not had confirmation from Jon Masters, I will prod about noon if I don't hear. |
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| 08:14.21 | SpudULike | How's the back this morning? |
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| 10:10.40 | JD | hi all |
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| 10:43.33 | NisoRamen | Ello All |
| 10:44.25 | skugg | hi NisoRamen |
| 10:44.43 | NisoRamen | Nice to know there are people with as little life as me about this time of day :) |
| 10:45.42 | NisoRamen | Skugg you still using IMAP for your mail? |
| 10:47.05 | skugg | NisoRamen, no. haven't in a long time |
| 10:47.14 | NisoRamen | Which server did you use to use? |
| 10:47.34 | skugg | i get it locally, but i actually shift it up to a remote machine (for backup) with isync... |
| 10:47.40 | skugg | that happens over imap |
| 10:47.43 | NisoRamen | Ah ok. |
| 10:48.00 | NisoRamen | ibot google isync |
| 10:48.01 | | i don't know, NisoRamen |
| 10:48.04 | skugg | i would like to get imap running on the local machine, because that would make isync complain less when i move messages between folders |
| 10:48.21 | skugg | isync.sourceforge.net |
| 10:48.36 | NisoRamen | Ah right. All i found were links to the apple one. |
| 10:48.58 | skugg | it seems a bit unmaintained at the moment... |
| 10:49.18 | skugg | the CVS repo is unaccessible (have been a long time -- i checked today, even) |
| 10:49.30 | skugg | works like a charm though |
| 10:49.37 | skugg | and now also over ssh tunnel ;) |
| 10:49.37 | NisoRamen | I think SF.net's been havinv CVS issues for a while |
| 10:50.06 | skugg | and it also creates remote/local mailboxes if you specify the correct flag... |
| 10:50.08 | NisoRamen | Looks interesting |
| 10:50.16 | NisoRamen | rsync for email :) |
| 10:50.36 | skugg | you specify a local dir, and a remote dir, and it creates and sync all mailboxes under those (both ways) |
| 10:50.40 | skugg | yep :) |
| 10:50.51 | skugg | 'tis good. thank martin ling for suggesting it ;) |
| 10:50.55 | NisoRamen | Tested with Exchange as ewll. Sweet |
| 10:51.34 | NisoRamen | So all i need now is to chose an IMAP server |
| 10:51.45 | NisoRamen | Nice to have only the easy stuff ;) |
| 10:53.43 | skugg | NisoRamen, read the points about running a local imap server? |
| 10:53.51 | skugg | that's what I'm missing so far |
| 10:54.02 | NisoRamen | Not yet. I just want one on the local lan. |
| 10:54.12 | NisoRamen | for "experimentation" |
| 10:55.27 | skugg | ah |
| 10:55.40 | skugg | i think vince uses it locally too... |
| 10:55.49 | skugg | or to duplicate mail between places |
| 10:56.09 | NisoRamen | I'm also looking at friging with Squrrel mail or IMP. But IMAP seems to be pretty important |
| 10:56.21 | NisoRamen | The amount of mail he gets i'm not surprised! |
| 10:56.57 | NisoRamen | IMP looks mighty purty |
| 10:57.04 | NisoRamen | http://www.horde.org/imp/screenshots/imp-standard.png |
| 10:58.46 | NisoRamen | vs the more cluttered http://www.squirrelmail.org/images/shots/1.4.0/messagelist.jpg |
| 11:00.25 | skugg | who 'he'? |
| 11:00.35 | skugg | vince? |
| 11:00.37 | skugg | :) |
| 11:01.07 | NisoRamen | Yep. I think he's on all the mailing lists :) |
| 11:01.25 | skugg | true ;p |
| 11:01.37 | skugg | i liked how imp looked, yes... |
| 11:02.27 | skugg | i've been thinking of setting up some simple webmail for my mom and dad (and sister?) at some point... |
| 11:02.42 | skugg | but i need proper hosting for my domain first. |
| 11:02.51 | NisoRamen | Which ever one of the two has an inbuilt spell checker wins ;) |
| 11:02.51 | skugg | now that i have a job, i might be able to afford that... |
| 11:02.59 | skugg | NisoRamen, haha ;) |
| 11:03.08 | NisoRamen | Skugg get an account on the TULS box. |
| 11:03.34 | NisoRamen | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:03.46 | NisoRamen | Its amusing the first three times :) |
| 11:04.52 | skugg | NisoRamen, i've got an account there |
| 11:04.57 | skugg | i've not used it though... |
| 11:05.09 | NisoRamen | it apparently has mail setup and ready on it now. |
| 11:05.18 | NisoRamen | I use it as an offsite CVS store at the minute ;) |
| 11:05.24 | skugg | i want hosting somewhere where i pay, and can bitch at people when something goes wrong ;) |
| 11:05.29 | NisoRamen | Ahhh ok. |
| 11:05.34 | NisoRamen | And harker is quite big ;) |
| 11:05.38 | skugg | yep :P |
| 11:06.02 | skugg | NisoRamen, i use printf.net for offsite store... |
| 11:06.27 | skugg | it's got a 100 days uptime now |
| 11:06.35 | NisoRamen | Bastards! |
| 11:06.52 | skugg | oohh, i lied. |
| 11:06.55 | NisoRamen | TULS is still using a char for measuring uptime |
| 11:06.57 | skugg | i just logged in to check |
| 11:06.59 | skugg | 90 days ;) |
| 11:07.06 | skugg | :P |
| 11:07.22 | NisoRamen | Eventually it'l be a short. If we get that lucky ;) |
| 11:07.31 | skugg | hehe. |
| 11:08.02 | skugg | you measure uptime in cpu-ticks too, right? none of those pansy seconds :P |
| 11:08.22 | NisoRamen | I don't measure uptime, i'm on a dozer box :) |
| 11:08.31 | NisoRamen | Why depress myself? |
| 11:09.42 | skugg | i meant on slut ;) |
| 11:10.23 | NisoRamen | Squirrel mail has a calender system. +1 point |
| 11:10.40 | NisoRamen | I reckon we should just od the damn kernel and cheat. |
| 11:10.48 | NisoRamen | Saves so much grief in the end ;) |
| 11:12.29 | skugg | do any of them support threading? |
| 11:12.35 | skugg | i can't read mail without threading support :P |
| 11:12.47 | NisoRamen | Not sure. I'm still on the overviews at the minute. |
| 11:13.05 | NisoRamen | I used Exchange webmail for a while. You learn to live without it :) |
| 11:13.29 | NisoRamen | IMP has a plugin for calender called Kronolith |
| 11:13.39 | NisoRamen | Door bbl |
| 11:13.50 | skugg | that's it. a name that nice deserves a win. |
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| 11:33.43 | lit | i've been looking for videos of GNU Linux speeches, events, etc 2002/2003 in divx and mpeg only plz! thank you ;) |
| 11:34.10 | lit | gotta say i'm looking for something that would be easily understood/digested by non techies! |
| 11:35.38 | NisoRamen | Nothing with Stallman in it then. |
| 11:37.30 | lit | Stallman is OK. i have a couple of mpegs of him giving a peech about Freedom and my windoze mates got his drift! |
| 11:37.54 | NisoRamen | Hum They must have dodged the foam and froth. |
| 11:39.20 | NisoRamen | I The fosdem talks are suposed to be online by now: http://lwn.net/Articles/22235/ |
| 11:39.37 | lit | dunno but they got the gist of his speech |
| 11:40.06 | NisoRamen | ah ha! http://media.ael.be/FOSDEM2003/ |
| 11:40.09 | NisoRamen | Hows that? |
| 11:41.13 | NisoRamen | Not mpg but ogg. |
| 11:41.46 | lit | ogg is not video, it it? i'm looking for video only! |
| 11:41.55 | NisoRamen | Avi? |
| 11:42.32 | murble | not evil fosdem photos? |
| 11:42.44 | lit | avi tends to have a very crappy resolution |
| 11:42.49 | NisoRamen | Talk recordings. |
| 11:43.49 | lit | video inc audio is what i'm after! talk audio recordings i want not |
| 11:46.33 | NisoRamen | Oh well. Back to google with you then :) |
| 11:47.21 | lit | spent 2 hours and a half on google!. i'm tired mate |
| 11:49.14 | eye69 | Hello people |
| 11:49.38 | zachary | afternoon eye69 |
| 11:50.54 | eye69 | Hi zach |
| 11:51.14 | murble | what for? |
| 11:51.15 | eye69 | Hopefully I finally have a job |
| 11:51.27 | eye69 | NOC engineer |
| 11:51.32 | murble | who with? |
| 11:51.42 | eye69 | Can't say |
| 11:51.55 | murble | well good luck anywa. |
| 11:52.08 | eye69 | Thanks |
| 11:52.45 | zachary | eye69: Wish you the best. |
| 11:52.59 | eye69 | I do too |
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| 13:31.01 | resuDaed|work | any debian users here that use kdm? |
| 13:31.45 | resuDaed|work | or generally kdm |
| 13:49.35 | Jenson|Away | heh i wasnt here, i use kdm, and a debian user set it up for me, guess that doesnt count |
| 13:50.07 | Jenson|Away | Anyway I'm not here |
| 14:13.24 | cup | BOARD! |
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| 14:21.13 | skugg | you can't keep away, can you, nisoramen? ;) |
| 14:21.25 | NisoRamen | Boredom is a bad thing :) |
| 14:21.29 | skugg | (says the one sitting here all day) |
| 14:21.29 | NisoRamen | I'm killing an hour |
| 14:21.38 | skugg | heh. |
| 14:21.44 | NisoRamen | I wasn't going to mention that. Sad git :) |
| 14:21.47 | skugg | i was just about to create dinner |
| 14:22.00 | skugg | NisoRamen, well. i'm on #arch as well. |
| 14:22.06 | NisoRamen | 'Create'? |
| 14:22.20 | skugg | sorry, norwegianism :P |
| 14:22.22 | skugg | "make" |
| 14:22.36 | NisoRamen | That makes a bit more sense :) |
| 14:22.42 | skugg | make and create is the same word in norwegian... |
| 14:23.01 | NisoRamen | Ah ok. |
| 14:23.05 | NisoRamen | Freaks. |
| 14:23.07 | NisoRamen | hehe |
| 14:25.12 | Tarragon | NisoRamen: Sorry. I really tried to get there. Ask Colin. Car died last night. AA this morning says the car needs a new alternator and garage said they could not do it before next week. |
| 14:25.34 | NisoRamen | Yeah, slacker :) |
| 14:25.46 | NisoRamen | If you set out earlier you could have walked it ;) |
| 14:26.12 | Tarragon | in about five days! |
| 14:26.32 | NisoRamen | See you just didn't want it enough :) |
| 14:26.42 | NisoRamen | No worries. Next time. |
| 14:26.48 | NisoRamen | 25 years to go. 25 years to go.... |
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| 16:03.22 | zachary | bbl |
| 16:05.23 | resuBitch | Hi all |
| 16:38.18 | JD | hi all |
| 16:38.23 | JD | anyone still around? |
| 16:38.31 | JD | or have you all buggered off home? |
| 16:38.54 | JD | despite the fact I really hate the song |
| 16:41.40 | JD | bah |
| 16:44.57 | JD | anyone here? |
| 16:46.46 | chrisa | q |
| 16:47.11 | chrisa | bah. ^S in a screen session is not good |
| 16:49.05 | JD | anyone know about Visual Studio versions? |
| 16:49.28 | JD | is visual studio 6 the vrsion before visual studio .net? |
| 16:49.38 | JD | or was there a 7 or a year version? |
| 17:02.31 | JD | http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/previous/2002/features/profeatures.aspx |
| 17:02.33 | JD | lol |
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| 17:57.03 | Jenson | heya |
| 17:57.18 | cupis | hi |
| 17:59.32 | JD | cupis: how is work? |
| 17:59.36 | JD | you just got back? |
| 17:59.40 | cupis | yes, |
| 17:59.44 | Jenson | heya JD |
| 17:59.53 | cupis | jsut got back - managed to avoid most o the traffic, thankfully/. |
| 18:00.07 | cupis | Wors okay - things are coming together etc. |
| 18:00.18 | JD | you still very busy? |
| 18:00.50 | Jenson | he's only on one channel with me |
| 18:00.57 | JD | cupis: of course you were |
| 18:01.00 | cupis | JD: yes - not in the frantic sense of the word, but in the plenty-of-work-to-do and long-hours way. |
| 18:01.35 | cupis | JD: still job hunting? |
| 18:01.51 | JD | at work atm |
| 18:01.57 | Jenson | JD: You going to gllug? |
| 18:02.03 | JD | Jenson: yes |
| 18:02.10 | JD | but I need to do revision on the way |
| 18:02.17 | JD | when I say revision I mean learn |
| 18:02.25 | JD | when I say learn I mean panic |
| 18:02.30 | cupis | I wil likely not be going to the meet this Sat. |
| 18:02.31 | Jenson | I'm not sure yet whether I am, depenmds if Xiaoqi wants to go, and also Alex is work all day |
| 18:02.37 | JD | cupis: why not? |
| 18:02.40 | Jenson | JD: awwww, I can calm you down |
| 18:02.47 | Jenson | aww cupis but you're sexy |
| 18:02.55 | JD | Jenson: I hope Nikki goes |
| 18:03.03 | cupis | JD: I've got a server to babysit and some people to train Sat 10-at least 2. |
| 18:03.18 | cupis | I may try and come up after, but it depends how things go. |
| 18:03.24 | JD | cupis: you can't make pub? |
| 18:03.26 | Jenson | JD: me too, i'm surprised she still wants to meet me after i whinged at her about men and love for a whole week |
| 18:03.32 | cupis | JD: ^ |
| 18:03.42 | JD | cupis: ACK |
| 18:04.00 | JD | Jenson: you can't beat meeting someone face to face |
| 18:04.18 | JD | only then can you not want to repeat the experience |
| 18:04.21 | Jenson | JD: Even when I'll most likely collapse in a fit of tears |
| 18:04.50 | JD | Jenson: it is expected and prepared for |
| 18:05.38 | Jenson | JD: I burst out crying in the street, and then walked into the snooker club crying the other day |
| 18:06.26 | JD | http://lwn.net/Articles/35946/ |
| 18:06.37 | JD | Richard Jones has put together a tutorial for learning OCaml. "This is a practical, detailed tutorial for people who already know an imperative or OO-language and wish to learn OCaml." |
| 18:06.44 | JD | is that our Richard Jones? |
| 18:07.31 | skugg | yes |
| 18:07.39 | skugg | JD, he posted it to gllug some time ago... |
| 18:07.41 | JD | bloody hell |
| 18:07.51 | JD | famous people in our midst |
| 18:09.32 | Jenson | JD: What you need is a friend obsessed with you, preferably a female one... |
| 18:14.45 | JD | Jenson|BBS: I know that |
| 18:14.51 | JD | I just need to find one :( |
| 18:14.58 | JD | although not too obsessed |
| 18:16.31 | cupis | JD: how? |
| 18:17.21 | JD | elif $original_local_part is not "david" then save Maildir/.returned/ |
| 18:17.38 | cupis | ah, cool. |
| 18:17.41 | JD | it is a bit of a sledgehammer approach, but it works |
| 18:18.10 | cupis | JD: well you're using exim. When all you have is a sledgehammer... |
| 18:18.19 | cupis | :) |
| 18:18.52 | cupis | dammit JD - people are still directly sending me responses to your debconf email... |
| 18:18.59 | skugg | JD, why the hidden directory? |
| 18:19.19 | cupis | skugg: it's not hidden, it's Maildir |
| 18:19.41 | cupis | well it /is/ hidden, but /because/ it is Maildir. |
| 18:20.26 | skugg | cupis, was that to be able to nest maildirs? |
| 18:20.33 | JD | cupis: you should have set Reply-To header |
| 18:20.34 | cupis | skugg: yes |
| 18:20.52 | skugg | so, what's the layout then? |
| 18:21.00 | cupis | JD: well it should have follow-up'd to the list |
| 18:21.29 | JD | ~/Maildir/{cur,new,tmp,.folder/{tmp,cur,new}} |
| 18:22.08 | JD | cupis: I could be more clever about the filtering if I wanted to |
| 18:22.14 | JD | but I can't be arsed |
| 18:22.33 | cupis | JD: I can't believe you didn't rise to the obvious swipe at exim! |
| 18:23.08 | skugg | JD, so new mail simply arrive in ~/Maildir/new, yes? |
| 18:23.26 | cupis | skugg: it is delivered to the 'right place' by the MTA |
| 18:23.37 | cupis | fetchmail, for example |
| 18:23.50 | skugg | cupis, fetchmail? you mean procmail? |
| 18:24.01 | cupis | er, I didn't mean MTA, I meant ... |
| 18:24.04 | skugg | fetchmail is not a MTA |
| 18:24.04 | cupis | bah, yes |
| 18:24.11 | cupis | procmail or postfix or whatever. |
| 18:24.15 | JD | skugg: mail is written to tmp/ |
| 18:24.25 | skugg | JD, yeah, but moved to new, right? |
| 18:24.42 | skugg | JD, then moved to cur when it is read |
| 18:24.46 | JD | once the cache has been flushed and you are sure it has been written to disk, you hardlink it to new/ |
| 18:24.59 | skugg | oh. |
| 18:25.17 | JD | courier moves it to cur when the folder has been lsited |
| 18:25.42 | JD | so once seen, but not neccessarily read |
| 18:26.08 | skugg | ah, okay |
| 18:26.15 | JD | cupis: I don't need to rise to exim insults cos exim speaks for itself :) |
| 18:26.35 | cupis | JD: exim has speech synthesis? Not that is just bloat. |
| 18:26.47 | cupis | s/Not/Now/ |
| 18:26.57 | skugg | cupis, easily. so does mutt. |
| 18:27.08 | JD | cupis: It could have if you install festival and spend half a day at it |
| 18:28.17 | skugg | JD, willing to take an irssi script that pipes channels through festival? :} |
| 18:29.00 | Tarragon | JD: What do you mean - Me and the family rabbit? |
| 18:39.00 | JD | Tarragon: fatal attraction |
| 18:39.15 | JD | skugg: hmmmmm :) |
| 18:39.30 | JD | skugg: if you could add viavioce support to it too |
| 18:39.35 | JD | then I could irc in the car |
| 18:40.02 | JD | could be due to wrong modem cable |
| 18:40.05 | skugg | JD, i'm _not_ thinking of doing it :P |
| 18:40.13 | skugg | but it would be a bit sick and twisted... |
| 18:40.21 | skugg | worthy of thinking about :) |
| 18:40.45 | JD | skugg: nearly as sick and twisted as booting my laptop from my camera? |
| 18:41.06 | skugg | heheh |
| 18:44.00 | JD | skugg: it should be possible |
| 18:44.08 | JD | I just need to buy the camera |
| 18:45.49 | Jenson | JD: geek, you might find it easier to pull if you didnt geek so much lol |
| 18:45.50 | Jenson | :P |
| 18:46.33 | skugg | Jenson, heh. i met my girlfriend when she took an assembly-programming class where i was assistant tutor ;) |
| 18:46.34 | Xiaoqi | hi hi!! |
| 18:46.46 | skugg | Jenson, so that doesn't _always_ hold ;) |
| 18:46.53 | Jenson | skugg: and is she sexy and geeky? |
| 18:47.02 | skugg | Jenson, she is indeed |
| 18:47.12 | Jenson | how old is she? |
| 18:47.20 | skugg | 21 |
| 18:47.30 | Jenson | ooh ooh ooh, i wanna meet her |
| 18:47.36 | Jenson | a sexy female geek |
| 18:47.38 | Xiaoqi | Jenson: stop hinting for a 3-some! |
| 18:47.58 | Jenson | Xiaoqi: If i was looking for that I'd ask David, or Beth, or Tom, or you |
| 18:48.44 | Xiaoqi | Jenson: but none of us would aggree |
| 18:48.48 | Xiaoqi | :) |
| 18:48.56 | skugg | Xiaoqi, wimps |
| 18:49.09 | Jenson | heh |
| 18:49.13 | Xiaoqi | skugg: no, all members of the same family and it would be incestuous |
| 18:49.13 | Jenson | skugg: you offering :P |
| 18:49.36 | Jenson | Xiaoqi: Beth Tom and me or you David and me or You Alex and me wouldnt be |
| 18:49.45 | JD | Jenson: I dont geek much |
| 18:49.50 | Jenson | oh or me zimm and Emma |
| 18:49.52 | JD | Jenson: only when with other geeks |
| 18:50.15 | skugg | Jenson, no. i'm not allowed. my gf is a wimp too ;) |
| 18:50.17 | Jenson | JD: when I geek I employ the 'I#m a woman thereofre I'm right' method |
| 18:50.29 | Jenson | skugg: heh don't include her then |
| 18:50.34 | Jenson | god im scatty today |
| 18:50.42 | skugg | Jenson, then it wouldn't be a threesome ;) |
| 18:50.48 | Jenson | skugg: oh well... |
| 18:50.51 | Xiaoqi | Jenson: but you fail to realise that everyone is in monogomous relationships and therefore doesn't want to do anything like that |
| 18:51.12 | skugg | thanks |
| 18:51.13 | JD | the north sea |
| 18:51.18 | Xiaoqi | Anyway.. just been called for food shaped substances |
| 18:51.27 | JD | Xiaoqi: I'm not :( |
| 18:51.28 | Jenson | Xiaoqi: I know one person, or rather did, before me and her fiance did a little cheating |
| 18:51.32 | Xiaoqi | bbl |
| 18:51.55 | JD | Jenson: I think that proves Xiaoqi's point and not yours |
| 18:51.58 | Xiaoqi | Jenson: huh? who? |
| 18:52.10 | Xiaoqi | JD: lol |
| 18:52.11 | Jenson | Xiaoqi: No-one you know, it was back when I was dating Dan |
| 18:52.24 | Jenson | JD: zimm's new g/f |
| 18:52.33 | JD | oh |
| 18:52.34 | Xiaoqi | hehe, I'll c ya l8r! |
| 18:52.37 | Jenson | i dont know anyrthing else bout her yet |
| 18:52.47 | Jenson | was too busy begging him to get back with me to ask |
| 18:52.52 | Jenson | JD: erm yeah |
| 18:53.03 | Jenson | I never cheated on Ross |
| 18:53.32 | Jenson | I'm gonna go grab some food before Alex gets online |
| 18:53.39 | Jenson | BRB |
| 18:54.53 | JD | I use my laptop too much |
| 18:56.20 | skugg | JD, heh. |
| 18:56.32 | skugg | i use the trackpad on mine. |
| 18:56.43 | JD | skugg: confused the hell out of me for a second |
| 18:56.50 | JD | it was just a subconcious thing |
| 18:57.04 | Jenson | Back |
| 18:57.05 | skugg | JD, heh |
| 18:57.23 | JD | boths types of nipples |
| 18:57.26 | Jenson | i like trackpads |
| 18:57.53 | Jenson | must upload that |
| 18:58.04 | JD | before people think he is obsessed with nipples |
| 18:58.19 | Jenson | JD: yeh, no cracking my user p/w lol, I domnt want you on my HDD |
| 18:58.21 | JD | cos I don't really think about nipples all the time |
| 18:58.44 | JD | it was just that one nipple related thought today |
| 18:58.47 | Jenson | i dont like nipples, Alex always finds a way to embarrass me with them |
| 18:58.58 | Jenson | plus he calls them small penisis....i think i started that |
| 18:59.33 | Jenson | fuck, whats the plural of penis, never been in a situation where i needed to knpw |
| 19:00.08 | Jenson | Sacred everyonr away again |
| 19:00.10 | Jenson | oppsie |
| 19:00.16 | Jenson | fscking hell learn to type |
| 19:00.44 | skugg | JD/cupis: is it advicable to activate the "apt break loop" thingie to install sysvinit/filerc from unstable? |
| 19:00.56 | cupis | skugg: whoa |
| 19:01.08 | cupis | skugg: are you running unstable? |
| 19:01.12 | JD | skugg: I installed sysvinit |
| 19:01.13 | Jenson | skugg: Ruin the lowered tone why dont you :P |
| 19:01.16 | skugg | cupis, yeah |
| 19:01.18 | JD | and then moved back to file-rc |
| 19:01.25 | JD | but I see it has done it again |
| 19:01.36 | skugg | JD, you mean you just uninstalled file-rc? |
| 19:01.41 | JD | yes |
| 19:01.43 | skugg | i was thinking of that... |
| 19:01.50 | JD | it did work |
| 19:01.52 | skugg | yeah, i guess that would work |
| 19:01.59 | Jenson | i need to upgrade, i'm lazy though, but i suppose i should upgrade to slack 9 |
| 19:02.04 | JD | it is pissy I know |
| 19:02.13 | JD | I didn;t file a bug on it at the time |
| 19:02.31 | skugg | JD, maybe i should now then. |
| 19:02.59 | JD | skugg: be my guest |
| 19:03.12 | skugg | oops. too late. |
| 19:03.19 | JD | skugg: maybe email d-d |
| 19:03.26 | JD | d-devel |
| 19:03.37 | skugg | i had already uninstalled it, and i don't know now what it said... |
| 19:03.44 | skugg | oh, wait... got another machine |
| 19:03.49 | skugg | yeah, same problem there. |
| 19:04.02 | skugg | which package should i direct it to? |
| 19:04.03 | skugg | both? |
| 19:05.24 | JD | skugg: I don't know which is why I suggested the d-devel email |
| 19:07.31 | skugg | okie. |
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| 19:09.07 | Jenson | hi formi |
| 19:09.36 | formi | hello |
| 19:10.25 | formi | nothing going on in here ? |
| 19:10.57 | JD | formi: discussing debian bugs |
| 19:11.12 | formi | that's boring |
| 19:11.39 | Jenson | formi: Well, JD was talking about nipples |
| 19:11.56 | Xiaoqi | b |
| 19:11.57 | formi | that's a girl bag |
| 19:12.05 | formi | s/bag/bug |
| 19:12.29 | Jenson | formi: aint ya getting nay honey? |
| 19:12.32 | Jenson | s/nay/any |
| 19:13.06 | formi | I'm getting exactly what I am asking for |
| 19:13.29 | Jenson | good goof |
| 19:13.31 | Jenson | good |
| 19:13.34 | Jenson | fscking typing |
| 19:14.18 | formi | never had a problem on that issue |
| 19:14.22 | Xiaoqi | hehe |
| 19:14.55 | skugg | formi, what is your trick? drugs? cricket bat? knife? :) |
| 19:15.20 | formi | well it would be telling! |
| 19:17.21 | formi | but there is a very simple big truth behind it |
| 19:20.49 | JD | food |
| 19:21.01 | formi | where? |
| 19:28.27 | formi | http://theinquirer.net/?article=10086 for those interested on the AMD/Intel saga |
| 19:30.59 | A4266 | ibot google for space odessy |
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| 19:32.06 | formi | hi murb |
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| 19:57.21 | JD-laptop | hi all |
| 19:57.29 | Jenson | hiya |
| 20:00.15 | JD-laptop | could watch 40 days and 40 nights |
| 20:00.49 | JD-laptop | but I don;t know how good it is |
| 20:01.11 | JD-laptop | but it is probably the kind of film I like |
| 20:01.26 | skugg | JD-laptop, i bet it has lots of sexxay girls in it |
| 20:06.32 | skugg | JD-laptop, i don't like porn-style "sexy" either |
| 20:06.34 | murble | I'm too quiet that is why. |
| 20:06.40 | skugg | i just don't find it sexy |
| 20:06.41 | murble | s/quiet/tired/ |
| 20:06.48 | Jenson | sorry, consoling Mr zimm on his new g/f |
| 20:06.59 | murble | i've got to get stuff sorted out tomorrow, because i didn't go into the office today. |
| 20:07.08 | JD-laptop | skugg: amateur is better |
| 20:07.08 | murble | and ineed beer. |
| 20:14.55 | Xiaoqi | bye |
| 20:15.04 | JD-laptop | Xiaoqi: where you going? |
| 20:15.20 | JD-laptop | bah |
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| 20:54.41 | armijn | re |
| 21:02.50 | armijn | hi jenson |
| 21:04.42 | Xiaoqi | hi hi |
| 21:10.57 | armijn | I got a beer here, it tastes like cider |
| 21:10.59 | armijn | very nice |
| 21:11.14 | Jenson | cool |
| 21:12.59 | armijn | yeah, loosens up the brain a bit (still writing paper for UKUUG) |
| 21:13.38 | Jenson | the brain....what about the inhibitions.... |
| 21:13.41 | armijn | writing technical things can be pretty tough, writing it in another language is a lot harder... |
| 21:13.47 | armijn | the what? |
| 21:14.03 | armijn | jenson: don't start swearing ;-) |
| 21:14.15 | Jenson | :) |
| 21:15.47 | armijn | but, ehr, inhibitions? |
| 21:16.25 | Jenson | erm, i cant explain hat, find a dictionary |
| 21:16.30 | armijn | hrmpf |
| 21:16.37 | Jenson | awww |
| 21:17.08 | Nikki_Chris | ah... |
| 21:17.23 | armijn | jenson: no, the beer is not that strong |
| 21:17.26 | Nikki_Chris | nothing new then |
| 21:17.30 | Jenson | armijn is Dan's best mate |
| 21:17.38 | Jenson | Nikki_Chris: nah |
| 21:17.48 | armijn | best mate? dunno...at least a mate... |
| 21:18.14 | Jenson | Is he dating Heather now? |
| 21:18.44 | Nikki_Chris | Jenson: didn't stop you sticking yoour hand down '\ |
| 21:18.57 | Nikki_Chris | costa's pants, he's alex's best mate |
| 21:19.13 | Jenson | I never did that |
| 21:19.24 | armijn | ehrm not much Linux related is it? |
| 21:19.24 | Jenson | It was on top of all his clothes |
| 21:20.00 | armijn | hmm, deadline for paper is june 27, not june 22... |
| 21:20.15 | Jenson | :) |
| 21:20.18 | armijn | gives me a bit more time for peer review |
| 21:20.29 | Jenson | Nikki_Chris: Besides, did I tell you about that? |
| 21:20.46 | Nikki_Chris | Jenson: no |
| 21:21.23 | Jenson | who told you? |
| 21:22.09 | Nikki_Chris | Jenson: two guesses |
| 21:22.20 | armijn | 1 - it's not about Linux |
| 21:22.23 | armijn | 2 - this is being logged |
| 21:22.25 | Nikki_Chris | armijn: sorry, we'll leave the channel |
| 21:22.28 | armijn | k |
| 21:22.45 | armijn | (no offence btw) |
| 21:22.52 | Jenson | armijn: My entire love life is logged babe |
| 21:23.12 | Jenson | fscking hell, this is zimms fault, calling everyone babe |
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| 21:23.18 | armijn | jenson: 1 - it's not about Linux |
| 21:23.52 | Nikki_Chris | hehehe |
| 21:23.52 | Jenson | heya new2unix |
| 21:23.59 | new2unix | hi there. |
| 21:24.10 | new2unix | how's things? |
| 21:24.13 | new2unix | hi all! |
| 21:24.16 | Jenson | alright ty |
| 21:24.20 | Jenson | you? |
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| 21:24.32 | armijn | hi leeds |
| 21:24.39 | Leeds | evening armijn |
| 21:24.43 | Leeds | how's things? |
| 21:24.55 | armijn | leeds: you're my favourite PDA helpdesk :) |
| 21:25.06 | Leeds | uh-oh... |
| 21:25.08 | Leeds | :-) |
| 21:25.12 | new2unix|tired | hi there Formi |
| 21:25.15 | armijn | leeds: do you know anything about syncing PocketPC stuff with things like Evolution? the calendering? |
| 21:25.22 | Leeds | nope... |
| 21:25.28 | armijn | hmmkay |
| 21:25.35 | Leeds | the only thing I know is that there's a project called synce |
| 21:25.37 | Leeds | ibot synce |
| 21:25.38 | | it has been said that synce is at http://synce.sourceforge.net or a package for SYNchronising CE devices |
| 21:25.57 | armijn | might have to do an article about that for some special about linux in businesses etc. |
| 21:26.04 | armijn | synce...thanks :) |
| 21:26.09 | Leeds | which provides the transport layer, at least... I don't know if there's been any progress on the application layer - I haven't looked at synce in 6 months |
| 21:27.15 | Leeds | it's not like I actually *run* wince, you know :-) |
| 21:27.28 | armijn | yeah yeah :) |
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| 21:27.51 | Leeds | hey Clyphox |
| 21:27.52 | armijn | leeds: all this techno mumbo jumbo on the handhelds.org doesn't mean much to me... |
| 21:28.04 | Clyphox | Hi |
| 21:28.23 | Leeds | armijn: it's all really about running Linux on iPAQs though - only a little directly wince-related stuff... you could always ask in |
| 21:28.27 | Leeds | #handhelds.org |
| 21:28.31 | armijn | leeds: as in, will it be possible to run linux on a Dell Axim already or not (it's the cheapest thing I could find where people are wokrking on linux for) |
| 21:28.36 | Leeds | ah |
| 21:28.41 | Leeds | axim is being worked on |
| 21:28.51 | formi | hi new2unix|afk & leeds |
| 21:28.53 | Leeds | come into #handhelds.org and ask Demo about that |
| 21:28.53 | armijn | being worked on...but workable? :) |
| 21:28.59 | Leeds | hey formi |
| 21:29.04 | Leeds | Demo is working on it AFAIK |
| 21:29.17 | formi | Leeds: i have a question to ask you comming from a 3rd party |
| 21:29.28 | Leeds | I missed 2 parties!!! :-( |
| 21:29.48 | armijn | awww...poor leeds...he missed out on the beer >:) |
| 21:29.49 | formi | on private |
| 21:31.44 | armijn | (and no, I'm not taking any more orders for belgian or dutch beer to take with me to Edinburgh) |
| 21:31.58 | Leeds | heh |
| 21:32.09 | Nikki_Chris | armijn: lol |
| 21:32.27 | armijn | at FOSDEM I promised maddog to take one he didn't know yet |
| 21:32.37 | Leeds | heh |
| 21:32.43 | armijn | I guess he's already forgotten that, but I like to keep my promises |
| 21:33.00 | armijn | and the O'Reilly woman...promised her as well |
| 21:33.05 | armijn | and promised dankolb |
| 21:33.10 | Leeds | Josette |
| 21:33.16 | armijn | that's alerady 3 0.75cl bottles |
| 21:33.21 | armijn | yeah, josette... |
| 21:33.35 | armijn | I promised here a nice kriekbeer... |
| 21:33.40 | armijn | s/here/her/ |
| 21:34.33 | armijn | hmm, would alan cox come to Edinburgh for that conference? |
| 21:34.41 | armijn | excellent opportunity for an interview... |
| 21:34.51 | Leeds | possibly... |
| 21:34.53 | Leeds | ask agk |
| 21:35.09 | armijn | nah, agk is always busy, don't want him to bother with that :D |
| 21:39.24 | armijn | leeds: #handhelds.org seems to be a bit of a busy channel... |
| 21:39.53 | Leeds | not at the moment |
| 21:39.56 | Leeds | it does get bust |
| 21:39.58 | Leeds | busy! |
| 21:40.49 | armijn | ok |
| 21:41.47 | murble | don't explode! |
| 21:52.33 | Jenson | wb |
| 21:52.37 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.43 | formi | i don't get it |
| 21:52.50 | Jenson | what |
| 21:52.52 | Jenson | ? |
| 21:53.10 | formi | every time im on irc people start phoning |
| 21:53.17 | Jenson | heh |
| 21:53.32 | skugg | armijn, what are you talking on? |
| 21:54.11 | skugg | (i'm assuming you're giving a talk in edinburgh since you're writing papers for the conference) |
| 21:54.18 | armijn | http://www.ukuug.org/events/linux2003/prog/abstract-AHemel-1.shtml |
| 21:57.19 | skugg | armijn, nice. |
| 21:58.06 | armijn | thanks :) |
| 21:59.30 | murble | armijn: at what level will your talk be? |
| 21:59.42 | armijn | not kernel ;-) |
| 22:00.14 | murble | will it be atall practical? |
| 22:00.19 | armijn | more of an introduction to buildfarms, it's really hard to go deep in just 34 minutes |
| 22:00.30 | armijn | practical? not really |
| 22:00.36 | armijn | I mean, really not |
| 22:01.09 | armijn | I just want to show why you'd want to use a buildfarm, what problems you can run into and how to overcome these |
| 22:01.31 | murble | so like a perl mongers tech meeting extened 15 minute slot |
| 22:01.53 | armijn | hmm, is that positive or negative? |
| 22:02.07 | murble | good useful to learn about new things quickly |
| 22:02.30 | armijn | hmmyeahwell, I guess... |
| 22:02.39 | armijn | I should train it a few times (the talk) |
| 22:02.50 | skugg | armijn, that's a good idea, yeah :) |
| 22:02.50 | murble | oh you used the XP phrase...run for the hills |
| 22:02.55 | armijn | giving it in a different language than I'm used to will make it even harder... |
| 22:03.06 | armijn | murble: I'm "test infected" |
| 22:04.19 | murble | i should get a new job. |
| 22:04.35 | murble | or become a student |
| 22:04.36 | armijn | XP...as in, extreme programming... |
| 22:05.02 | murble | armijn: i know. |
| 22:05.07 | Leeds | armijn: I use native compiling, on the public machines provided by DEC^WCompaq^WHP |
| 22:05.26 | armijn | leeds: you mean the testdrive? they're offline half the time... |
| 22:05.33 | Leeds | armijn: not the testdrive |
| 22:05.36 | Leeds | ibot devcluster |
| 22:05.37 | | [devcluster] at http://www.handhelds.org/projects/devcluster.html |
| 22:05.45 | murble | ibot refactor armijn |
| 22:05.46 | | murble: I give up, what is it? |
| 22:05.58 | murble | stupid bot. |
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| 22:06.03 | armijn | leeds: if you look at the samba buildfarm, most of the testmachines from the HP testdrive are offline |
| 22:06.19 | armijn | continuous integration! |
| 22:06.28 | Leeds | there's a samba buildfarm? :-) |
| 22:06.32 | armijn | leeds: yeah |
| 22:06.36 | armijn | build.samba.org |
| 22:06.49 | murble | although it doesn't yet have enough memory :( |
| 22:06.52 | Leeds | murble: mmm... cycles :-) |
| 22:06.54 | murble | or disk. |
| 22:06.58 | armijn | leeds: I've "donated" 4 machines |
| 22:07.20 | murble | Leeds: yeah it even has this HT thing so you see 4 CPUs |
| 22:07.54 | murble | when building a kernel doesn't give you enough time to make a cup of tea hmmm. |
| 22:08.08 | Leeds | yeah |
| 22:08.32 | armijn | murble: as long as you can open a bottle of beer... |
| 22:08.34 | skugg | murble, is that with gcc-3.3? |
| 22:08.48 | skugg | Leeds, a bit late now, surely? |
| 22:08.49 | murble | armijn: well my framebuffer here slows down the build a bit if i leave it selected. |
| 22:09.02 | skugg | is it a 24/7 one? |
| 22:09.12 | armijn | it's frustrating...I got two machines here, and not even NetBSD runs on it... |
| 22:09.12 | Leeds | skugg: 24-hour supermarkets - the geeks' best friend, man :-) |
| 22:09.13 | murble | skugg: 2.95.4 i like kernels that work :P |
| 22:09.24 | murble | Leeds: the saving grace of hatfield |
| 22:09.25 | armijn | leeds: beer department has closed though |
| 22:09.33 | skugg | murble, ah. okay. 'cause gcc-3.3 is -much- slower... |
| 22:09.34 | Leeds | yeah - got a can in the fridge... |
| 22:09.47 | murble | armijn: but you can import lots of crates inadvance from .EU |
| 22:09.52 | armijn | leeds: you know they sell dutch bere there? |
| 22:09.56 | armijn | beer even |
| 22:10.01 | murble | work van is going from .LU to .UK and back again shortly hmmm. |
| 22:10.08 | Leeds | yeah... big beer aisle |
| 22:10.10 | armijn | the "Tesco Lager" and the "Tesco Strong Lager" |
| 22:10.15 | armijn | they're not brewed in the UK... |
| 22:11.02 | formi | murble: http://theinquirer.net/?article=10086, you might enjoy it |
| 22:11.07 | armijn | I did a test with those beers...we're pretty sure that the lager is "Hertog Jan Pilsener" and the strong lager is "Hertog Jan Triple" |
| 22:11.26 | skugg | armijn, heh. |
| 22:11.34 | murble | armijn: so are they drinkable? |
| 22:11.38 | skugg | ever tried getting tesco's to ack that? :) |
| 22:11.46 | armijn | skugg: nope |
| 22:11.58 | murble | skugg: did you find train .ed? |
| 22:12.01 | armijn | murble: yeah, they are, but don't go for the "value lager" |
| 22:12.09 | murble | if not train and get a bargin return, i got mine for 44 quid. |
| 22:12.13 | murble | s/train/try/ |
| 22:12.21 | skugg | murble, i'm riding with jd in his car |
| 22:12.44 | murble | armijn: is it in a horrible blue can? |
| 22:12.50 | skugg | pretty convenient, since we're sharing room... |
| 22:13.02 | armijn | murble: yeah, horrible blue can (even though the last time I had it was 2 years ago) |
| 22:13.04 | murble | i get to scout out ed the week before... |
| 22:13.26 | armijn | beers are not special...but OK |
| 22:13.32 | armijn | (then again, I am a beer snob) |
| 22:13.40 | murble | have you tried any .LU beers? |
| 22:13.54 | armijn | murble: no...I tend to stick with NL and BE beers |
| 22:14.30 | armijn | (and not the lagers) |
| 22:14.33 | armijn | skugg: uggg... |
| 22:14.48 | armijn | french beer... |
| 22:14.52 | skugg | i prefer bitter, but tehy don't do any good bitters at the local shop |
| 22:14.56 | murble | hmm UKUUG get back on the 3rd fly to Vienna on the 8th |
| 22:14.56 | skugg | armijn, it's not too bad |
| 22:15.00 | armijn | I mean...french...beer...in one sentence... |
| 22:15.23 | skugg | armijn, better than that piss grolsh and stella at least ;) |
| 22:15.29 | murble | skugg: when is the first pay cheque and which pub are you drinking it in? |
| 22:15.35 | armijn | skugg: ah, yeah, export grolsch is awful |
| 22:15.52 | armijn | skugg: grolsch here is much much much much better |
| 22:16.09 | skugg | murble, dunno. i guess july 26, and quite possibly up in edinbourgh... |
| 22:16.20 | skugg | (if not the local, windermere) |
| 22:16.30 | murble | if you had a choice of Carling, Grolsch or Stella, which would you go for in a horibbly expensive london bar. |
| 22:16.36 | skugg | armijn, i take your word for it. |
| 22:16.48 | armijn | skugg; really, normal grolsch and export grolsch cannot be compared at all, real grolsch is really bitter |
| 22:16.53 | armijn | and has character ;-) |
| 22:17.16 | armijn | murble: never had carling, so I'd go for that |
| 22:17.21 | murble | clearly we need a miniLB somewhere to test this out. |
| 22:17.27 | skugg | murble, carling. i've only tried it once, but it has yet to make my stommach turn... |
| 22:18.01 | armijn | hmm, maybe I could take one extra bottle with me to Edinburgh... |
| 22:18.21 | skugg | armijn, that would be nice ;) |
| 22:18.32 | armijn | maybe not >:) |
| 22:18.32 | skugg | i wouldn't mind tasting "the real stuff" |
| 22:18.53 | armijn | hmm, I guess a can doesn't hurt... |
| 22:18.59 | skugg | i'd bring some over from norway, but they're all pretty shite |
| 22:19.16 | skugg | not that i'm going there anytime soon, anyway... |
| 22:19.28 | armijn | like Hansa ;-) |
| 22:19.39 | skugg | ugh. awful |
| 22:19.54 | armijn | friend just returned frm Oslo and he said that was about the only thing he could afford |
| 22:19.55 | skugg | there's one i like: "frydenlund fatøl" |
| 22:20.04 | armijn | my guess is he liked the barmaid better than the beer... |
| 22:20.05 | skugg | armijn, hehehehe, yeah ;) |
| 22:20.27 | skugg | armijn, imported beer is hideously expensive in norway |
| 22:20.40 | armijn | skugg: even worse than the UK? |
| 22:20.44 | murble | skugg: yeah so you have to get pissed on harder diy stuff? |
| 22:20.48 | murble | and go blind. |
| 22:21.25 | skugg | murble, yep. |
| 22:21.37 | skugg | armijn, uk is cheap. |
| 22:21.57 | armijn | skugg: eep, cheap? |
| 22:22.07 | skugg | armijn, compared to norway, yes ;) |
| 22:22.11 | murble | i think cheap is a relative term. |
| 22:22.20 | armijn | skugg: (mental note, don't go beer drinking in norway) |
| 22:22.32 | Jenson | goodnight all, dont talk about beer too late :) |
| 22:22.37 | murble | don't drink in the nordic bar in london, you pay nordic prices... |
| 22:23.02 | formi | http://www.bisforbeer.com/belgium/grimbergenoptimobruno.html |
| 22:23.24 | Tarragon | How about GBP3 for 4l home brew in a week |
| 22:23.40 | skugg | murble, 8 people, at least, died in the months before christmas from drinking smuggled/illegally brewed spirits |
| 22:23.51 | armijn | formi: yeah, grimbergen is nice... |
| 22:24.31 | formi | armijn: highly difficult to find in london, |
| 22:24.39 | skugg | murble, smugglers/home-brewers have even been known to mix their shite with lye to make it taste stronger, so they could mix it with water and sell it at same price... |
| 22:24.48 | armijn | formi: luckily I don't live in london then ;-) |
| 22:25.18 | murble | skugg: i think you mentioned that before... |
| 22:25.23 | murble | urgle. |
| 22:25.27 | formi | in my home place any beer house has it |
| 22:25.28 | murble | when will .no join .EU? |
| 22:25.52 | formi | .no .EU |
| 22:25.54 | armijn | murble: probably after the UK has switched to the Euro... |
| 22:26.02 | skugg | murble, pretty soon probably. |
| 22:26.15 | murble | armijn: i was going to say it was probably a bit like asking me when will the UK get the Euro... |
| 22:26.21 | skugg | murble, now that so much of the easter european countries joined too... |
| 22:26.27 | skugg | s,much,many, |
| 22:26.55 | skugg | at least that's what my friends tell me over there |
| 22:27.01 | murble | skugg: so after we've had that party in Redsqure after Russia has joined? |
| 22:27.09 | formi | skugg: have a look at http://beer.trash.net/topten.php |
| 22:27.18 | skugg | murble, probably ;) |
| 22:27.40 | skugg | formi, hehe. |
| 22:27.58 | formi | 15Centigrades, that's mad |
| 22:28.00 | skugg | i've heard of aas, can't remember though... |
| 22:28.11 | armijn | what? they rated the Belle Vue kriek with 4 thingies? |
| 22:28.15 | formi | maybe in middle winter |
| 22:28.44 | murble | cross off all the interbrew ones, narrows down the choice a bit. |
| 22:29.03 | skugg | formi, heh. i thought it was a "thrash list", i.e. a blacklist ;) |
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| 22:30.34 | armijn | heh, not all interbrew beers are that bad |
| 22:30.48 | armijn | if the tesco beer is indeed Hertog Jan, that's Interbrew too |
| 22:31.13 | armijn | hmm, maybe a beer BoF at Edinburgh conference? |
| 22:31.17 | formi | Duvel, Leffe Triple, Mort Subbit, Trappistes Rochefort |
| 22:31.31 | armijn | oh, mort subite is pretty nice... |
| 22:31.34 | murble | armijn: are you coming up to be there for the tutorials as well? |
| 22:31.49 | formi | those are the ones + Grimberbeng that I drink when Im on holidays back home |
| 22:32.02 | armijn | murble: I'll arrive on the airport on july 31st at around 10pm |
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| 22:32.27 | armijn | formi: home is .be then, correct? |
| 22:32.45 | murble | .es? |
| 22:33.02 | Tarragon | Nah we have adopted formi. Londoner now |
| 22:33.13 | armijn | well, he misspelt most of the beernames, so... |
| 22:33.19 | murble | oh i'm arriving i hope the afternoon of the 30th... |
| 22:33.40 | murble | Tarragon: how can you get rid of those you've adobted? |
| 22:33.46 | formi | armijn: I wish |
| 22:33.47 | murble | or is that just too cruel? |
| 22:34.02 | formi | Im from .GZ |
| 22:34.11 | armijn | gz... |
| 22:34.15 | Tarragon | Call social services and they ge taken into care |
| 22:34.27 | armijn | (where's gz) |
| 22:34.58 | formi | Mort Subit I know, but I usually drink it rather than trying to remenber the spellings |
| 22:35.34 | murble | http://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-whois.htm for a list of ccTLDs |
| 22:36.10 | armijn | hmm, no gz on there |
| 22:36.24 | Tarragon | I used to drink Mack Artic a while back but it was expensive. |
| 22:36.49 | formi | Galiza, NW S-pain |
| 22:37.04 | skugg | Tarragon, mack... famous for giving you hangovers worse than any other beers |
| 22:37.06 | murble | armijn: maybe we should campagn for the Gaza strip to be a place worth of a ccTLD? |
| 22:37.14 | formi | Tarragon: all beer is expensive in the UK |
| 22:37.31 | skugg | formi, mack is a norwegian beer |
| 22:37.45 | skugg | formi, uk beer is not expensive compared to over there ;) |
| 22:37.46 | murble | got to be better than ps |
| 22:37.48 | armijn | murble: mebbe |
| 22:37.57 | Tarragon | I lived in Tromso and everywher sold it. |
| 22:38.10 | murble | armijn: well it can't have ga since that has gone.. |
| 22:38.23 | armijn | murble: then it has to be .gz |
| 22:38.25 | formi | Grimbergen OB is one of the most expensive ones back home, about 1.80 UKP |
| 22:38.39 | armijn | formi: per bottle? in a shop? |
| 22:38.48 | formi | with four of them you are sorted |
| 22:39.13 | formi | armijn: nope in the beer house, about 15% cheaper on a large supermarket |
| 22:39.23 | armijn | formi: from tap? |
| 22:39.57 | armijn | sounds like an OK price to me... |
| 22:40.01 | formi | Grimbergen only the blonde on tap, Optimo Bruno only in bottle |
| 22:40.23 | skugg | Tarragon, yeah. it's brewed in tromsø, i think... it's not popular in the more southern parts |
| 22:40.34 | armijn | formi: then it might be a bit expensive ;-) |
| 22:40.36 | formi | most places don't do "tap" beer |
| 22:41.36 | skugg | formi, fuck you. :P 0.4L of the local shite is about 4 UKP in norway. |
| 22:41.59 | murble | skugg: calm down, have another beer. |
| 22:42.07 | formi | well you don't seem to have a problem anymore, so chill out |
| 22:42.34 | skugg | formi, nope. |
| 22:42.42 | skugg | i've got one left after this one |
| 22:42.52 | armijn | norwegians can't handle beer that well |
| 22:43.05 | skugg | formi, i am chilling... note the ":P" 8) |
| 22:43.14 | formi | probably a national disgrace |
| 22:43.15 | skugg | armijn, not this norwegian anyway |
| 22:43.32 | armijn | hmm, chocolate milk...we also could do a chocolate milk BoF |
| 22:44.03 | Leeds | well... there's only one Benelux chocco worth drinking :-) |
| 22:44.06 | skugg | *groan* |
| 22:44.18 | armijn | leeds: chocomel! (or cecemel if you're in .be) |
| 22:44.24 | formi | highly flamable stuff |
| 22:44.36 | Leeds | armijn: that's the one :-) |
| 22:44.42 | skugg | why do they sell salsa dips in such large tubs? i've had two packages of tortilla chips now, and it looks like i've barely touched the surface of the dip... |
| 22:44.57 | skugg | i just _know_ 70% of it is going to go off before i get to use it |
| 22:45.07 | Leeds | skugg: depends on if you duck or dip |
| 22:45.34 | skugg | Leeds, i use every tortilla thing as a spoon, if that's what you mean... |
| 22:45.47 | Leeds | hmm... that's a lot of salsa then |
| 22:45.55 | formi | skugg: interesting question, usually rabbish food is sold in minimalistic amounts |
| 22:46.07 | armijn | skugg: invite friends with more bags of tortilla chips? |
| 22:47.08 | armijn | or ask random people on the street if they want to "salsa dip" with you... |
| 22:47.23 | skugg | i think not... |
| 22:47.24 | armijn | hmm, no wait...that's a bit dubious... |
| 22:47.29 | skugg | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:48.40 | skugg | hm. the moer beer i have, the less spicy the salsa dip seems... does that ring a bell? :) |
| 22:48.55 | skugg | s,er,re, |
| 22:49.49 | Nikki_Chris | hehe |
| 22:49.56 | Nikki_Chris | won't that curdle? |
| 22:50.04 | Leeds | hmm... maybe not |
| 22:50.23 | Nikki_Chris | let me know so I can try sometime |
| 22:50.24 | Nikki_Chris | hehe |
| 22:50.33 | armijn | sigh, not even NetBSD runs on it :( |
| 22:50.38 | Leeds | armijn: which one? |
| 22:50.40 | Nikki_Chris | yum! |
| 22:50.48 | armijn | leeds: HP Jornada 820 |
| 22:52.00 | armijn | well, not really handheld...unless you got big hands |
| 22:55.42 | armijn | leeds: old, 1998 or so |
| 22:55.51 | Leeds | ah |
| 22:56.33 | armijn | would make a nice bed-IRC terminal |
| 23:02.22 | formi | armijn: http://beer.trash.net/beerpage.php?beernum=366, that's the local one |
| 23:02.52 | armijn | formi: I haven't had that many spanish beers |
| 23:03.09 | armijn | well, none to be precisely, but I don't know that many |
| 23:03.32 | formi | there are only 4 producers |
| 23:03.50 | armijn | formi: there must be some microbrewery stuff |
| 23:03.55 | formi | http://beer.trash.net/continent.php?cont=europe&range=20&by=country |
| 23:04.11 | formi | the last one is not really spanish |
| 23:04.48 | armijn | probably for the germans on mallorca... |
| 23:05.03 | formi | in the south not much beer is drunk, mostly we prefer wine and spirits |
| 23:07.15 | formi | even though it seems that now wine is losing market to beer, mainly in summer |
| 23:07.57 | armijn | well, south of belgium not much beer is consumed... |
| 23:08.25 | formi | Brauerei Falken AG |
| 23:08.25 | formi | Brewed since ? in Switzerland |
| 23:08.25 | formi | 13.5 % alc. vol. |
| 23:08.43 | formi | that is more alcoholic than wine |
| 23:09.06 | armijn | I thought yeast started dying around 12% |
| 23:09.24 | armijn | so they must have added some extra alcohol later |
| 23:10.28 | formi | i think the 10% mark is the right one for me |
| 23:10.43 | armijn | for me only in winter ;-) |
| 23:11.31 | armijn | hmm, 1:11 am... |
| 23:11.33 | armijn | beddie time |
| 23:11.41 | formi | good night |
| 23:11.43 | armijn | cu |
| 23:11.46 | *** part/#gllug armijn (~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl) |
| 23:12.01 | formi | bye blockes |
| 23:42.27 | Xiaoqi | anyone awake? |
| 23:45.13 | Xiaoqi | hehe, hiya! |
| 23:45.18 | new2unix | allo :) |
| 23:45.37 | Xiaoqi | hows you? |
| 23:45.53 | new2unix | its late. shouldnt you be in bed like the rest of humanity? |
| 23:46.09 | Xiaoqi | i am in bed, thats what laptops are for |
| 23:46.28 | Xiaoqi | gotta wake up at silly o'clock to say bye to a friend |
| 23:46.44 | Xiaoqi | so its either sleep for an hour or so, or play on the lappy |
| 23:46.56 | new2unix | why not say "bye" in advance and sleep to your hearts content? |
| 23:48.14 | Xiaoqi | because that would be rude, especially as my poor father shaped parental unit is getting up to drive him to the airport, hehe |
| 23:48.27 | Xiaoqi | whats yur excuse for being up late? |
| 23:49.10 | new2unix | i er... ermm... i errr am doing stuff :) |
| 23:49.22 | Xiaoqi | hehehe |
| 23:49.32 | new2unix | well, i got in late from work so i'm doing my washing now :( |
| 23:49.39 | Xiaoqi | you're as bad as i am and yu now it, hehe ;-) |
| 23:49.42 | Xiaoqi | aww... |
| 23:49.45 | Xiaoqi | washing sucks |
| 23:50.25 | new2unix | Hoovers suck. |
| 23:50.33 | Xiaoqi | lol |
| 23:50.34 | new2unix | Elementary, my dear Watson! |
| 23:52.36 | new2unix | but we are surrounded daily by the elements of nature? youve got to think outside the box haha |
| 23:53.39 | new2unix | come to think of it, dont lightbulbs have elemets inside them? or is it filaments? cant quite remember (it must be late) |
| 23:54.51 | Xiaoqi | i know... no idea... think it's filaments, and elements are in kettles!!! |
| 23:54.58 | Xiaoqi | hehehe |
| 23:55.17 | new2unix | being a trademark, i think the word we really should be using is "Vacuum Cleaner", and not Hoover. We really dont want another SCO case on our turff do we? |
| 23:56.44 | Xiaoqi | not really, although they may like the extra publicity a bit, hehe |
| 23:58.13 | new2unix | in 5that case we could probably charge Hoover anytime we use the word in a positive light to refer to the sucking of air or "vacuum cleaning", as we now know it. |
| 23:59.07 | Xiaoqi | hehehe |
| 23:59.29 | Xiaoqi | paid to use it in various places... quick and easy way to earn money |
