| 00:00.26 | gregj | maybe i should write to mailing list |
| 00:00.37 | gregj | "anyone for a pub crawl sunday ?" |
| 00:00.40 | gregj | :] |
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| 08:52.49 | Xiaoqi | morning all |
| 08:52.58 | zachary | mion Xiaoqi |
| 08:53.10 | Xiaoqi | hows you? |
| 08:54.03 | zachary | Pretty good. had probs with my firewall this morning |
| 08:54.45 | zachary | and you? |
| 08:57.14 | Xiaoqi | I'm ok... actually up and dressed for once, hehehe... got a bit of a headache, but nothing ibuprofen can't handle, hehehe. What are you up to today? |
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| 09:21.36 | ftc | anybody know if there is a cd-rom street directory of england or just london ? |
| 09:35.11 | zachary | ftc, let me check some resources. |
| 09:37.32 | ftc | i think ive found what im after... http://www.azmaps.co.uk/asp/d_cdrom.asp?userid=&lstpostage= |
| 09:37.53 | zachary | was looking at that too. |
| 09:38.05 | ftc | do you guys call them "street maps" or something else ? |
| 09:41.34 | zachary | Do you have wifi? |
| 09:42.29 | ftc | na |
| 09:42.30 | ftc | i assume yer talking bout wireless networking ? |
| 09:42.59 | zachary | yes |
| 09:43.22 | zachary | streetmaps.co.uk |
| 09:50.22 | zachary | Xiaoqi: Sorry, had problem with daughter. She was very tired and fussy. I'm most likely going to reinstall my wife's laptop: change partition scheme, and reload wifi drivers. The shipped drivers had a fault in the uninstallation software which caused some problems. Arrrrgh |
| 10:39.05 | Xiaoqi | hehehe |
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| 11:22.28 | armijn | yawn |
| 11:22.53 | Leeds | at 1323? |
| 11:23.02 | armijn | yeah |
| 11:23.15 | armijn | went to festival yesterday, got back at 3:30am |
| 11:23.16 | Leeds | bah! I've been up for nearly an hour! :-) |
| 11:23.25 | Xiaoqi | hehe... ohly an hour? |
| 11:23.43 | armijn | yeah, well, I've been up for about an hour as well, but there's a difference between being up and being awake |
| 11:24.00 | Leeds | good point |
| 11:28.54 | armijn | I should do more sleeping before I go to a festival...went to bed a 1:30am, got out of bed at 7:30, left at 9, 2.5 hour drive, then festival until 12:30 am, left parking at 1am, 2.5 hour drive... |
| 11:29.26 | armijn | and made lots of pictures, so I should start digging into GIMP |
| 11:30.30 | armijn | and practice more with digital camera |
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| 11:34.32 | armijn | converted some people yesterday? |
| 11:37.44 | Leeds | helped people, yes :-) |
| 11:38.03 | armijn | good |
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| 11:55.05 | armijn | shower time... |
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| 12:52.18 | Leeds | fucking perl modules!!! |
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| 13:24.06 | formi | hello |
| 13:28.36 | Leeds | afternoon |
| 13:30.21 | formi | i hate redhat |
| 13:31.14 | Leeds | any particular reason, or just in general? |
| 13:31.22 | formi | is there any masoquist in here? appart from me obviously |
| 13:31.40 | formi | for example, they don't provide things like xmms |
| 13:32.13 | Leeds | I thought they provided xmms without mp3 codec? |
| 13:32.24 | formi | I don't know if I can add rpm ftp locations, it seems to default to only the cds |
| 13:33.02 | formi | sorry |
| 13:33.15 | formi | I found it, they call it "Audio Player" |
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| 13:57.30 | zachary | afternoon formi |
| 13:57.42 | zachary | , Leeds, cupis |
| 13:57.51 | cupis | hi zachary |
| 13:57.54 | Leeds | hey zachary |
| 13:58.39 | Jenson | hey |
| 13:59.55 | zachary | formi: Did you mean masochist? |
| 14:30.06 | Leeds | hmm... I suck, but pyddr got better... |
| 14:42.09 | Xiaoqi | hola |
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| 15:34.43 | Jenson | heya Tom |
| 15:38.45 | resuDaed | hey Jenson |
| 15:39.30 | resuDaed | any DHCP gurus in here? |
| 15:40.47 | resuDaed | by dhcp, I want all hosts set to use a set router, but one host to ignore it (the router), but have an ip set by dhcp |
| 15:40.54 | Jenson | resuDaed: is your dad still home? |
| 15:41.02 | resuDaed | Jenson : no |
| 15:41.17 | Jenson | is it ok to come around in a while? |
| 15:41.32 | resuDaed | just you?, all of you? |
| 15:42.48 | Jenson | me, Al and Nikki |
| 15:42.54 | resuDaed | I see no probs |
| 15:43.05 | Jenson | Oh BTW, me and Al arent together anymore, although you wont really notice |
| 15:43.29 | resuDaed | still friends though I take it |
| 15:43.40 | Jenson | yeh |
| 15:43.43 | Jenson | of course |
| 15:43.52 | Jenson | he just said it didnt feel right |
| 15:43.58 | murble | resuDaed: having a router get an ip from dhcp is bad juju |
| 15:43.58 | Jenson | whcih i understand |
| 15:45.00 | resuDaed | murble : I know, but it is a precaution, dhclient keeps ketting set off on the server by one of our supposedly senior admins |
| 15:45.33 | resuDaed | we have 19 different netorks with one main internet gateway |
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| 15:47.20 | murble | ok, then you want, host myrouter { hardware ethernet mymacaddres; fixed-address myaddress; } |
| 15:47.55 | resuDaed | murble : I have this, but the router is picking itself up a as a router and having screwed up routeing tables |
| 15:47.57 | JD_ | hi all |
| 15:47.58 | murble | but you probably want to set a route because when they run dhcpc the interface will go down and you may lose your default route. |
| 15:48.44 | murble | resuDaed: are you running an dynamic routing protocols? |
| 15:49.30 | resuDaed | murble : static routes |
| 15:49.52 | resuDaed | but the router is putting itself before the ISPs router in the routing table |
| 15:49.57 | murble | well it might be an idea to not have dhclient on that machine. |
| 15:50.20 | murble | resuDaed: so put a dhcp entry in for that routers isprouter; |
| 15:50.33 | murble | then the worse that happens is it has 2 default routes pointing to isp. |
| 15:51.19 | resuDaed | so host myrouter { [blah] option routers <isp> } |
| 15:54.56 | murble | yeah, give that a try, you don't have to dhcp to get an ip addres from isp, i assume that is static? |
| 15:55.38 | resuDaed | nah, in favour of saving money - we have dynamic ips from our isp |
| 15:56.25 | resuDaed | and 192.168.x.x/24 internally |
| 15:56.50 | murble | oh, is this just an office connection? |
| 15:57.30 | resuDaed | yeah, but a busy office (network wise) |
| 15:58.01 | gregj | re |
| 15:58.43 | resuDaed | although we have dynamic ip from isp, we never leave the same subnet or chagne routers |
| 15:59.23 | resuDaed | always 80.193.238.x with x=1 = gateway/dns |
| 15:59.38 | gregj | resuDaed: you should always get IPs from some range |
| 16:00.09 | gregj | as long as isp is not trying to be nasty :] |
| 16:00.14 | resuDaed | gregj : that is what I am saying, but our dns/external gw never change |
| 16:01.28 | resuDaed | may lose connection, brb |
| 16:02.25 | resuDaed | thanks murb, seems to have fixed it, specifying router in host seems to overide subnets default host |
| 16:04.16 | murble | http://foto.pho.be/show_collection.php?id=28932 # photos from yesterday |
| 16:10.00 | gregj | murble: this server gives wrong doctype of html stream |
| 16:10.16 | gregj | murble: thus konqueror is trying to open it using text editor |
| 16:11.56 | murble | gregj: complain to fotopic.net then. |
| 16:14.48 | murble | gregj: doesn't do that for me... |
| 16:14.51 | || | GET http://foto.pho.be/show_collection.php?id=28932 HTTP/1.1 |
| 16:14.52 | || | Host: foto.pho.be |
| 16:14.52 | || | HTTP/1.1 200 OK |
| 16:14.54 | || | Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 16:14:01 GMT |
| 16:14.56 | || | Server: Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) PHP/4.2.3 |
| 16:14.59 | || | X-Powered-By: PHP/4.2.3 |
| 16:15.02 | || | Transfer-Encoding: chunked |
| 16:15.04 | || | Content-Type: text/html |
| 16:15.20 | gregj | hmm |
| 16:15.58 | gregj | i got konq. from 9 days old cvs |
| 16:16.11 | gregj | probable there is need for update :] |
| 16:16.15 | gregj | probaby |
| 16:16.17 | gregj | argh |
| 16:37.08 | gregj | murb: it is allright, my fault ;) |
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| 17:18.34 | JD | hi leeds |
| 17:19.54 | Leeds | hey JD |
| 17:20.39 | gregj | Leeds: :] |
| 17:30.38 | JD | anyone going to say anything? |
| 17:30.51 | murb | no. |
| 17:30.56 | gregj | no way. |
| 17:31.12 | Jenson | heya |
| 17:32.02 | JD | grrrr |
| 17:32.05 | JD | why not? |
| 17:35.18 | Leeds | foo |
| 17:37.18 | Tarragon | Just got back home! |
| 17:37.47 | gregj | Leeds: bar |
| 17:38.33 | Leeds | gregj: can you prove that? |
| 17:39.06 | Xiaoqi | hihi |
| 17:39.29 | gregj | hehehehehe |
| 17:39.44 | Xiaoqi | :) |
| 17:40.37 | Leeds | hey Xiaoqi |
| 17:40.42 | Xiaoqi | how is everyone today? |
| 17:40.46 | Xiaoqi | hi Leeds |
| 17:41.39 | Leeds | I'm okay... don't want to work tomorrow... |
| 17:41.51 | Xiaoqi | hehe... does anyone? |
| 17:41.56 | Xiaoqi | the weather is too nice |
| 17:42.35 | Leeds | I want it to rain heavily this evening... clear the air |
| 17:43.11 | Xiaoqi | yeah, there was a great thunder clap this morning though, which woke everyone in the house up, hehehe |
| 17:44.35 | Leeds | not heard any thunder, but there was some rain earlier - big drops, but not much of it |
| 17:44.55 | Xiaoqi | yeah... its done it a few times... |
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| 17:45.01 | Xiaoqi | rain is good in this weather |
| 17:45.12 | zimm | Xiaoqi: ? |
| 17:45.27 | Jenson | hey zimm |
| 17:45.36 | Jenson | she's just moved so i could reach the k/board |
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| 18:06.19 | Xiaoqi | where did everyone go? |
| 18:14.30 | Leeds | to play a game |
| 18:19.27 | Xiaoqi | ah |
| 18:22.28 | Xiaoqi | hehehe |
| 18:23.25 | Leeds | roomfull of bees... shudder |
| 18:24.35 | Xiaoqi | uuurrrggghhhh |
| 18:25.30 | Leeds | literally a nightmare... that image keeps me awake at night |
| 18:26.26 | Leeds | and it came close to true one hot Saturday night last summer |
| 18:26.27 | Leeds | :-( |
| 18:26.42 | Xiaoqi | thats not fun :( |
| 18:27.05 | Leeds | got chased out of my bedroom by 6 angry wasps |
| 18:50.56 | Leeds | I now - really - sleep with a can of Raid by my bed |
| 18:51.04 | Xiaoqi | aww |
| 18:51.04 | Leeds | or at least in the room |
| 18:51.06 | gregj | hehe |
| 18:51.50 | Xiaoqi | :) |
| 18:53.00 | Leeds | I didn't have any Raid at the time... and my car was at the garage... ended up calling a friend to come and get me so I could get a few hours sleep in his spare room... and he had to wake his wife up because he doesn't drive... |
| 18:53.22 | Leeds | it was the night/morning of the last GLLUG picnic |
| 18:53.58 | Leeds | speaking of which... keep 17/8 free :-) |
| 18:54.46 | murb | what is the 17/8? |
| 18:54.52 | Leeds | a date |
| 18:55.57 | murb | we've somthing planned for that date? |
| 18:56.05 | Leeds | provisionally |
| 18:56.10 | zachary | Leeds: Making it official? |
| 18:56.18 | murb | that conflicts with lbw |
| 18:56.25 | murb | so lots of people will be in .sk |
| 18:56.31 | murb | s/lots/some/ |
| 18:56.40 | zachary | murb: lbw? |
| 18:56.52 | Leeds | zachary: not yet... |
| 18:57.30 | Leeds | personally, I don't care about lbw... |
| 18:57.43 | murb | Linuxový Pivný Puták |
| 18:57.44 | Leeds | but if enough other people do, that's a problem |
| 18:59.40 | Xiaoqi | anyway... I'm gonna stop being antisocial... c ya l8r every1 |
| 19:00.27 | Leeds | murb: you think a lot of Londoners are going to schlep all the way out there? |
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| 19:11.59 | gregj | murb: .sk is not that far away from .pl |
| 19:12.06 | gregj | hmm, which place should i choose :] |
| 19:16.55 | highbury | I once got caught in a compromising position, in a roomful of wasps |
| 19:17.45 | highbury | my bathroom has a nest in the external wall, and they had burrowed through behind the toilet |
| 19:19.33 | murb | Leeds: well it seems to cost the same to get to .sk as Leeds/Bradford. |
| 19:23.17 | gregj | ok, pizza ordered :] |
| 19:39.17 | Leeds | highbury: argh |
| 19:42.35 | gregj | next time i have to find room in area that got a 24h/d open shop |
| 19:42.40 | gregj | at least one :] |
| 19:42.53 | gregj | and is far away from heatrow, or any other airport |
| 19:51.20 | Leeds | is it just me who finds the idea of selling a razor by what colour it is to be a little strange |
| 19:52.05 | gregj | no :] |
| 20:03.29 | Tarragon | murb: I did not think the picnic was going to be as far as Leeds/Bradford. Yes .sk is only as expensive as Leeds/Bradford but it is not as expensive as Bletchley. |
| 20:04.14 | Leeds | the point is that an afternoon in Milton Keynes is a lot less hassle (work/holiday, money, etc.) than a week in .sk |
| 20:16.23 | Leeds | top gear talking about the Megane... |
| 20:23.10 | Leeds | they crashed the Megane into another car... the driver walked away without a scratch - a bit shaken, but absolutely fine |
| 21:03.47 | gregj | at speed of 10mph? |
| 21:03.49 | gregj | :? |
| 21:03.50 | gregj | :> |
| 21:05.05 | Leeds | 30 |
| 21:05.13 | Leeds | + a bit |
| 21:05.28 | gregj | how often you are going so slow ? |
| 21:05.41 | gregj | s/going/driving/ |
| 21:06.16 | Leeds | on a city street? often |
| 21:06.39 | gregj | i guess 99.999999999% of today cars are so secure |
| 21:06.50 | gregj | not counting mini and simmilar :] |
| 21:07.13 | Leeds | apparently not |
| 21:07.41 | Leeds | they showed a few cars after similar tests... |
| 21:07.48 | gregj | well, i am talking about a new car |
| 21:07.49 | Leeds | pedals driven up into the footwell... |
| 21:07.53 | Leeds | doors broken... |
| 21:07.55 | Leeds | all new cars |
| 21:08.11 | Leeds | apparently the Megane is the official safest small car :-) |
| 21:09.15 | highbury | and ugliest |
| 21:13.46 | Leeds | ah, piss off - I like it |
| 21:14.03 | Leeds | hmm... aparently 0-day bookwarez are in effect... |
| 21:22.46 | gregj | ftp://80.51.39.3/Books/ |
| 21:22.48 | gregj | ;) |
| 21:22.52 | gregj | have phun |
| 21:23.16 | murb | isn't there a nowarez rule? |
| 21:23.30 | gregj | who told you it is warez |
| 21:23.48 | murb | because you started talking like a warez k1ddy |
| 21:23.53 | gregj | maybe i should say, oups - wrong window |
| 21:25.12 | gregj | murb: i've been just looking for something with books and i found this one |
| 21:25.18 | gregj | ble |
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| 21:50.42 | Leeds | mmm... wimblington tomorrow... |
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| 22:28.01 | gregj | anoyone is going to unix conference in ei |
| 22:28.09 | gregj | Edinburgh |
| 22:35.02 | Leeds | gregj: yeah - going to book it tomorrow |
| 22:37.20 | gregj | Leeds: ;) |
| 22:37.29 | gregj | Leeds: i am just filling form at the moment :] |
| 22:37.37 | gregj | Leeds: going by car or flying to ? |
| 22:37.44 | Leeds | dunno |
| 22:37.49 | Leeds | probably not car - maybe train |
| 22:37.53 | zachary | good night |
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| 23:27.37 | Clyphox | Hi JD |