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00:35.00 | Axel | gn8 all |
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09:01.01 | zachary | moin |
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09:09.56 | cup | morninf |
09:13.12 | zachary | morning cup |
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09:27.01 | sash | Morning |
09:28.51 | zachary | morning sash |
09:29.44 | sash | Did you go to AT? |
09:32.47 | zachary | not yet, need to work out day-care for astanzi for that day. Jess does't get off work tell 4pm. |
10:03.50 | zachary | ARGHHH, The shipment of Revolution OS is going to be further delayed to 9 July. |
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10:05.21 | sash | zachary: Why? |
10:06.51 | zachary | According to john winters' site, the "publishers" are delaying the shipment. |
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11:31.02 | zachary | Afternoon Leeds |
11:31.48 | Leeds | hey |
11:32.11 | zachary | How did the religous discussion go last night? |
11:33.03 | Leeds | ended quickly, unfortunately |
11:33.08 | sash | Hello Leeds |
11:33.31 | Leeds | hey sash |
11:34.59 | zachary | Leeds: Do you like to ponder metaphysics? |
11:37.07 | Leeds | somewhat |
11:37.14 | sash | I like to contemplate my navel. |
11:37.40 | zachary | sash: yea, until something gets stuck. |
11:39.17 | sash | Oh dear, did you know that navel lint is predominantly blue. It's true. |
11:40.17 | zachary | sash: Only you would know of such trivia. |
11:44.57 | Leeds | he's obviously performed many years of experimentation |
11:50.28 | sash | Leeds: Perhaps you were one of the subjects. |
11:57.03 | Leeds | not that I recall... |
12:01.51 | sash | Did you take payment in fermented yak's milk then? |
12:02.47 | Leeds | not that I recall... |
12:03.24 | sash | Was this back in the 60s perchance? |
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12:04.45 | SPQR | g'day |
12:04.50 | sash | Moo |
12:05.00 | SPQR | baaa |
12:10.52 | sash | Foo bar |
12:12.22 | SPQR | snafu |
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12:30.25 | zachary | wb Tarragon |
12:30.38 | Tarragon | TY. Just installed |
12:31.10 | zachary | sash: What is with the fermented yak's milk? |
12:32.47 | sash | Tarragon: See how OT this channel is. |
12:33.13 | sash | You get the yak, I'll get the icecream. |
12:34.38 | sash | Er, Courvoisier then. |
12:40.03 | Leeds | keep that sort of language to yourself |
12:47.01 | Tarragon | I can find Yak's milk cheese, but for the actual white milk you are goning to have to keep a Yak yourself. |
12:56.21 | sash | Leeds: Whatwhatwhat? |
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14:37.56 | resuDaed|work | is anyone familiar with mjpg/mjpegs? |
14:38.24 | resuDaed|work | and/or how it can be re-encoded to mpeg1 or avi? |
14:45.56 | SPQR | resuDaed|work |
14:46.09 | SPQR | I think Rate knows a few things. |
14:47.18 | SPQR | he's in #flute |
14:56.16 | Leeds | I'd just use mplayer... |
15:05.10 | resuDaed|work | Leeds : are there mjpeg codecs available for mplayer? |
15:15.45 | Leeds | sure |
15:15.48 | Leeds | AFAIK |
15:17.29 | Leeds | http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/codecs-status.html |
15:38.12 | gregj | Leeds: hi |
15:59.47 | resuDaed|work | does anyone know how to strip the first x amount of chars from a file? |
16:00.30 | Tarragon | resuDaed: Yes just watched an M jpeg movie in Mplayer. If you do not have the codecs it just plays the sound. Actually the soundtrack sounds better quality without the video. |
16:01.12 | resuDaed|work | Tarragon : you know how to do the above? |
16:11.11 | JD | hi all |
16:13.21 | Leeds | hey greg |
16:13.45 | Leeds | resuDaed|work: see man tail |
16:15.27 | resuDaed|work | Leeds : the length of the file is unknown, /i just need to strip the first 2 lines |
16:15.50 | JD | resuDaed|work: tail foo +2 |
16:16.10 | JD | well +3 iirc |
16:16.27 | SPQR | what about 'tail -n 2 foo' |
16:16.57 | SPQR | or 3 for that amtter as well... |
16:17.08 | nasrat | -n does the last 2 lines |
16:17.39 | JD | SPQR: +3 does it |
16:17.45 | resuDaed|work | so tail (file) +3 |
16:18.28 | JD | resuDaed|work: aye |
16:21.22 | SPQR | oops, ya |
16:21.34 | resuDaed|work | basically, my problem is this - I am getting an mjpeg (of unspecified length) from cgi, so I have the content type written in at the beginning, I need some way of putting it into a useful file (std mpg, avi etc) |
16:23.14 | resuDaed|work | any sugestions? |
16:23.32 | resuDaed|work | (use of non-free software (eg xanim) is a last resort) |
16:24.00 | chrisa | you've solved the Content-Type: issue? just looking for format conversion? |
16:24.48 | resuDaed|work | chrisa : I don't think so, I have tried using tail to remove the first two lines, but xanim still wont recongnise it |
16:24.58 | Leeds | xanim? ugh |
16:25.12 | resuDaed|work | Leeds : just to test whether s a valid file |
16:25.12 | nasrat | resuDaed|work: is it mime encoded? |
16:25.22 | resuDaed|work | nasrat : I have no idea |
16:25.30 | chrisa | if it's an HTTP server, you should use perl and LWP::Simple or something |
16:25.52 | resuDaed|work | there is no write access to the http server |
16:25.57 | chrisa | sure |
16:26.06 | chrisa | LWP::Simple on the client side |
16:26.11 | cup | weekend, bye people |
16:26.22 | chrisa | but you don't know in advance how much header-foo the cgi will send |
16:26.41 | chrisa | so you read lines until you get a blank line ("\n\n") then your content starts there. |
16:26.48 | Leeds | seeya cup |
16:27.35 | resuDaed|work | the cgi server sends content type as image/jpeg, newline, then the stream |
16:28.10 | chrisa | that's what you see if you telnet to it, say? |
16:28.20 | Tarragon | resuDaed|work: I thought tail -n 2 foo would just give you the last 2 lines. If you do not know the file size this would not work would it? |
16:28.22 | nasrat | what does file on the download stripped give |
16:29.00 | nasrat | can you wget the file? |
16:29.01 | resuDaed|work | http://digit.colo.hosteurope.com:3128/axis-cgi/mjpg/video.cgi |
16:29.22 | resuDaed|work | nasrat : I am wgetting the file |
16:29.22 | JD | Tarragon: surely I don't have to tell people again that tail <file> +2 does whgat is wanted |
16:29.57 | JD | resuDaed|work: then the cgi is fubar |
16:29.59 | Tarragon | OK will try |
16:30.34 | resuDaed|work | # tail vid.mjpg +2 |
16:30.39 | resuDaed|work | tail: +2: No such file or directory |
16:30.57 | Leeds | tail +2 <file> |
16:30.59 | Leeds | JD sux |
16:31.04 | nasrat | resuDaed|work: tail +2 vid.mjpg > foo.mjpg && file foo.mjpg |
16:31.34 | chrisa | if wget is writing Content-Type: blah/blah\n\n into the file, then something is *very* wrong. |
16:32.40 | Tarragon | JD: OK I am obviously making a fool of myself - It is not working. Are there differing versions of tail? |
16:33.01 | nasrat | Tarragon: gnu tail is what we are talking about here |
16:33.16 | resuDaed|work | nasrat : your command worked, I got image/jeg back |
16:33.21 | resuDaed|work | s/jeg/jpeg |
16:33.34 | Tarragon | Ah. In that case JD you sux big time! |
16:33.48 | Tarragon | :-) |
16:33.50 | Leeds | nasrat: no we're not |
16:33.51 | resuDaed|work | :-) |
16:34.04 | chrisa | resuDaed|work: can you give us a user/pass for that httpd? |
16:34.10 | resuDaed|work | view/view |
16:34.17 | nasrat | Leeds: is the + behaviour standard |
16:34.29 | resuDaed|work | it is a stream, so d/c at some point :-) |
16:34.43 | Leeds | nasrat: don't have a standard to hand... but it's there in UNIX tail :-) |
16:35.18 | nasrat | Leeds: the info page says GNU `tail' can output any amount of data (some other versions of |
16:35.21 | nasrat | `tail' cannot). |
16:36.34 | chrisa | Leeds: when you say 'UNIX tail', exactly which UNIX/ |
16:36.37 | chrisa | ? |
16:37.03 | Leeds | chrisa: Solaris |
16:37.29 | chrisa | oh, right. most of Solaris' userspace sucks bigtime. |
16:37.38 | Leeds | um... |
16:38.02 | JD | parguild020 david% tail +3 /tmp/foo |
16:38.07 | JD | works a treat |
16:38.14 | chrisa | well, for values of sucks including 'missing lots of useful features which the GNU and BSD versions have' |
16:38.19 | Leeds | um... |
16:38.41 | Leeds | do you know who I am? |
16:39.00 | JD | Leeds: no, should I? |
16:39.14 | Leeds | JD: you bloody should :-) |
16:39.32 | nasrat | Leeds: Bill Joy? |
16:39.39 | Leeds | nasrat: close :-) |
16:39.41 | JD | Leeds: is it bigger than a breadbox? |
16:39.50 | Leeds | well, close-ish... |
16:40.19 | nasrat | Leeds: are we talking meters |
16:40.21 | chrisa | Leeds: some kind of Sun superstar? :/ |
16:40.29 | Leeds | crisa: close :-) |
16:40.31 | resuDaed|work | chrisa : you have any luck with that stream? |
16:40.40 | JD | Sun got a ticking off on Chris Moyles show today |
16:40.53 | Leeds | the what show? |
16:40.55 | chrisa | resuDaed|work: yes, it *does* have Content-Type: as the first line... |
16:41.05 | JD | Leeds: radio 1 |
16:41.39 | chrisa | resuDaed|work: haven't actually tried doing anything with the video tho |
16:41.43 | resuDaed|work | tail +2 foo managed to remove that ok, and 'file' returned image/jpeg, but I still cannot get in to play in a anything |
16:41.45 | Leeds | JD: I'm listening to Virgin during the day at the moment... mmm... Ogg stream :-) |
16:42.14 | JD | Leeds: they had pic of African footballer on front page |
16:42.32 | JD | with eyes open and people standing around |
16:42.39 | Leeds | JD: um, what??? |
16:43.32 | JD | then inside they had a story about new pill to prevent heart disease and a cartoon saying |
16:43.56 | JD | "any side effects?" "don't know, but at least you won;t die of a heart attack" |
16:44.27 | JD | and hten 2 pages on they had the story about African footballer who died of a suspected heart attack during a game last night |
16:45.24 | Leeds | JD: you alright, man? |
16:45.35 | JD | Leeds: yes. why? |
16:46.24 | Leeds | well, you're talking absolute nonsense... more so than usual |
16:46.31 | JD | Leeds: not really |
16:46.43 | JD | what doesn;t make sense |
16:46.49 | JD | I'm talking about the Sun today |
16:47.09 | SPQR | I'm heading homewards now. Later peeps |
16:47.10 | resuDaed|work | JD: and the kajority of that isn;t nonsense |
16:47.10 | Leeds | yes, I know that |
16:47.18 | JD | being shockingly amoral/unprofessional/insensitive |
16:47.22 | Leeds | bye spqr |
16:47.25 | resuDaed|work | laters SPQR |
16:53.28 | chrisa | Leeds: so *who* are you, and why are you so touchy about people's opinion on Solaris then? |
16:56.19 | JD | chrisa: lets just say a conflict of interest |
17:02.28 | Leeds | well... I do work for Sun... |
17:02.58 | Leeds | in Solaris Engineering... |
17:03.18 | Leeds | in the team responsible for shipping the GNUish userspace stuff with Solaris |
17:10.32 | Leeds | so yeah... I have an interest |
17:12.00 | A4266 | hey hey |
17:12.09 | Leeds | hi Krusty! |
17:12.32 | A4266 | lol |
17:19.01 | gregj | home sux |
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17:21.20 | jason_ukfsn | afternoon/evening all |
17:24.27 | JD | hi jason |
17:24.33 | jason_ukfsn | hi JD. |
17:24.53 | jason_ukfsn | s/wek/week/ |
17:25.19 | jason_ukfsn | UKFSN is getting some new servers given to it :) |
17:25.29 | JD | by? |
17:26.04 | jason_ukfsn | There will be a press release about it so I don't want to pre-emt that as the company deserves the publicity. |
17:26.25 | JD | /msg me? |
17:26.25 | jason_ukfsn | Let's just say they are a very well known UK Linux hardware supplier |
17:26.32 | JD | ah okay |
17:26.35 | JD | I think I know |
17:27.52 | jason_ukfsn | The new hardware will allow me to put together a good anti-spam/virus platform and a UML offering. |
17:28.17 | JD | cool |
17:30.31 | resuDaed|work | chrisa : you still there? |
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18:21.15 | chrisa | resuDaed|work: awake? |
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20:27.31 | Leeds | evening nasrat |
20:27.58 | nasrat | evening |
20:28.01 | stephanb | Leeds: hey hello there ! |
20:28.20 | Leeds | evening stephenb |
20:28.28 | Leeds | or stephanb even |
20:29.03 | stephanb | Leeds: how's life ? |
20:29.09 | Leeds | not bad |
20:29.21 | Leeds | didn't have a great day at work... but I'm nice and relaxed from it :-) |
20:29.45 | stephanb | well that's better than me |
20:30.12 | Leeds | really? :-( |
20:30.49 | stephanb | i went to see that guy (supposed friend) who hadn't be in touch for months |
20:31.09 | stephanb | he calls me out of the blue, I thought "that's nice" |
20:31.53 | stephanb | it turns out he calls me because he's filled a 12GB drive on a 3 years old iMac full up to 100MB free |
20:32.02 | stephanb | and the mac doesn't boot ! |
20:32.07 | Leeds | doh! |
20:36.41 | stephanb | of course he hasn't backed up anything for 3 years |
20:36.53 | Leeds | SCSI? |
20:37.03 | stephanb | nonono iMac = IDE |
20:37.11 | Leeds | oh, okay |
20:37.29 | Leeds | so grab it, slap it in a computer (as opposed to a toaster), copy the files off |
20:37.41 | stephanb | I said I couldn't do anything, I only do PCs. My experience of MacOS is to boot on the System disk and run a disk check |
20:38.00 | Leeds | heh - more experience than me :-) |
20:38.04 | stephanb | of course that fails, the disk doesn't even mount |
20:38.30 | stephanb | he's already spoken to afew mac gurus, it looks like the partition table on his drive is f***ed |
20:38.43 | stephanb | and that I can't fix |
20:38.44 | Leeds | doesn't mount? on Linux, I assume |
20:39.00 | stephanb | no doesn't mount on the MacOS desktop |
20:39.15 | Leeds | so slap it in a Linux PC |
20:39.21 | stephanb | when you use the rescue OS from the System CD |
20:39.23 | Leeds | depending on how good a friend he is :-) |
20:40.00 | stephanb | well he has such a history of calling me when his computer needs fixing that I didn't feel I wanted to make any effort |
20:40.18 | Leeds | ah, that |
20:40.30 | Leeds | my mum called this morning because her 'net connection was dead :-) |
20:40.31 | stephanb | come on, the guy doesn't backup anything for 3 years, he's a pro photographer, he uses digital cameras |
20:40.59 | stephanb | if i was doing his job I would burn a CD at the end of each day of shooting |
20:41.27 | Leeds | heh |
20:41.39 | stephanb | ah, let me guess, her dog had chewed the telephone extension cable ? |
20:41.56 | Leeds | nah... dunno what the problem was - talked her through rebooting her router and all was well |
20:42.22 | Leeds | she thought my sister had filled up the HDD with Kazaa and deleted something important to make space for more dodgy MP3s :-) |
20:42.39 | stephanb | ah yes I'm sure that must happen |
20:43.33 | stephanb | "let's see, there's this folder called system32..." |
20:43.36 | Leeds | well considering she's got a PC and a laptop, and the 'net connection was dead from both... it had to be the router |
20:44.12 | stephanb | mind you on Windoze the default settings prevent you from going directly into the system folders |
20:44.27 | Jenson|Away | stephanb: Does anyone use default settings |
20:44.41 | Leeds | my mum is quite good... my sister I have no idea about |
20:44.54 | stephanb | Jenson|Away: mister joe public who has bought his pc in the supermarket does, yes. |
20:45.17 | Jenson|Away | stephanb: Bah, I forgot I'm a Slackware/Windoze user...that aint normal |
20:45.28 | stephanb | coz Mr John Doe doesn't read "Windows annoyances" on O'Reilly |
20:45.49 | Leeds | nah, Jenson|Away - you're just generally not normal |
20:46.23 | Jenson | thx for that Leeds honey |
20:46.33 | Leeds | no problem |
20:46.34 | Leeds | :-) |
20:46.39 | Leeds | normal is a bad thnig |
20:46.41 | Leeds | thing |
20:46.43 | Jenson | I wasnt gonna stay, but I am now, coz I'm gonna write a mail |
20:46.47 | Jenson | then I think I'm gonna sleep |
20:47.00 | Leeds | but... sleep is the enemy! |
20:47.28 | Leeds | so, stephanb, what do you use? |
20:47.34 | Jenson | yeh, but its quiet online tongight |
20:48.04 | Leeds | so go to #kde and start trolling :-) |
20:48.48 | stephanb | Leeds: I use the BLAG distro (redhat with all the missing a/v bits) |
20:49.12 | stephanb | Leeds: I also tried Mandrake 9.1... looks really nice, recognised my broadband modem !!! |
20:49.19 | Leeds | frog? |
20:49.43 | Jenson | I was impressed, Slack auto installed my soundcard this distro...with 8.1 it took me and Leeds an hour to work it out |
20:49.51 | Jenson | Although that good have been me being a newbie |
20:49.58 | Jenson | s/good/could |
20:52.08 | Leeds | yeah, probably |
20:52.31 | Jenson | I dont like Slack much though |
20:52.42 | Jenson | When I get a complete copy of Debian I'll do that |
20:52.49 | stephanb | then I also have to use Win2k at work, coz these Adobe rats don't want to release any of their stuff on Linux |
20:52.56 | Jenson | Maybe I should order one now |
20:53.39 | Jenson | fsck whats the URL for John Winters site, I cant spell it |
20:53.57 | skugg | . . o O ( wine ) |
20:55.21 | Leeds | www.linuxemporium.co.uk |
20:55.31 | Jenson | ty |
20:57.47 | Leeds | or possibly write a PIM suite or a Python/XML system admin tool |
20:58.30 | Leeds | I have 7 movies saved on my TiVo... could do with freeing up the disk |
20:58.46 | stephanb | Oh can we have the theological debate on Reloaded another day ? |
20:58.59 | stephanb | maybe when the girls are around, that could be fun |
20:59.08 | Leeds | it' |
20:59.10 | Leeds | it |
20:59.12 | Leeds | argh |
20:59.24 | Leeds | keep hitting return instead of (or as well as) ' |
20:59.32 | Jenson | I'm a girl |
20:59.42 | Leeds | it's not really theology - just pseudo-crap |
20:59.45 | Leeds | Jenson: prove it |
21:00.18 | Jenson | Leeds: erm, you know me anyway |
21:00.36 | Leeds | do I? |
21:00.52 | skugg | Leeds, you not a fan of matrix reloaded? |
21:01.06 | stephanb | no more psuedo-crap than what new-age cults do = recycling well known assumptions from various faith traditions |
21:01.31 | Leeds | oh, the film was okay... pacing was weird in parts... but it's not in any way insightful in a theological sense |
21:01.59 | Jenson | it was a cool movie |
21:02.04 | Leeds | stephanb: with the exception of one being purely (or almost so) for entertainment's sake... |
21:02.27 | Jenson | plus when i saw it at the cinema i had the bonus of snuggling Alex too :P |
21:02.43 | stephanb | absolutely not the Wakawski brothers have said clearly that they have a "philosophical/religious" agenda |
21:03.18 | stephanb | but that they think that debating that on public broadcasting with academics wouldn't get much of an audience |
21:03.32 | stephanb | whereas doing an adrenalin infused action flick does |
21:03.39 | Leeds | stephanb: sure, there's a subtext and a backstory... but are they seriously trying to start a cult - create a useful belief system? |
21:03.58 | stephanb | i don't think they want to creat a "cult" |
21:04.12 | stephanb | definitely not like the "kabbalah society" |
21:04.22 | Leeds | kabbalah society? |
21:04.59 | Leeds | a club for students of Bar Yoshai? |
21:05.02 | Jenson | Leeds: Technically anything is a cult, Christianity, Judaism, Muslim, all that shit, all cults |
21:05.51 | Leeds | I disagree... cult suggests extremism, non-mainstream, stuff like that |
21:06.37 | Jenson | Leeds: I would argue this point, but there are certain beliefs I have that could easily be misentuperated |
21:06.41 | Leeds | oh, and calling the major monotheistic religions 'shit' could be taken as an insult... |
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21:07.33 | Jenson | Leeds: Sorry, I dont like religion |
21:07.39 | Leeds | so? |
21:07.59 | Jenson | But I dont want to get into a religious argument with you, coz I like you |
21:08.03 | stephanb | Leeds: b careful, the "kabbalah society" is this organisation Madonna has joined, it sounds very dodgy. |
21:08.29 | Leeds | stephanb: oh, that stuff... that's a cult... |
21:10.24 | Jenson | Leeds: All the great so-called extreme political parties started as cults I think |
21:10.47 | Leeds | um, what? |
21:11.18 | Jenson | the marxist-leninists |
21:11.21 | Jenson | Nazis |
21:11.22 | Jenson | all those |
21:13.01 | Jenson | Plus, maybe Linux is a cult too :P |
21:13.14 | Leeds | to me, a cult (in the serious sense, as opposed to say a fan club of a celeb) is inherently religious |
21:13.29 | Leeds | very different from a movement, which is what you seem to be talking about |
21:14.01 | Leeds | anyway... |
21:14.10 | Jenson | Think about it though, if we could find someone with the people power of Hitler and his lot, who wasn't a bastard, we could do anything |
21:15.00 | stephanb | Linux is not a cult |
21:15.13 | stephanb | Linux is a giant networked videogame |
21:15.17 | Jenson | lol |
21:15.40 | stephanb | where thousands of players on the internet play at installing, debugging, coding |
21:15.57 | stephanb | and get together in great social events like LUGs |
21:16.12 | stephanb | like Dunjons and Dragons |
21:16.38 | stephanb | if Linux was a religion it would be protestantism |
21:16.55 | Jenson | LUGs arent great social events. they're just weird |
21:17.00 | stephanb | with all it's denominations : Slackware, Debian, Mandrake, Red Hat, etc |
21:17.16 | Jenson | Debian is a religion to its followes though |
21:17.20 | Jenson | its like Schumacherism |
21:17.34 | stephanb | Jenson : please define religion |
21:17.55 | Jenson | stephanb: Tell a Debian user that its shit and you'klll understand |
21:18.27 | stephanb | Jenson: you haven't answered my question, so far my conclusion is that Debian users are short tempered |
21:23.10 | stephanb | i hope I haven't offended him |
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21:51.43 | stephanb | ok guys, i'm off |
21:51.48 | stephanb | bye everybody !! |
21:52.03 | stephen | bye |
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22:20.06 | blueboxer | Wake up and smell the electrons! |
23:03.09 | Leeds | well... |
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23:05.42 | Leeds | okay... it does have one hell of a twist in the tail |
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