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| 07:19.48 | zachary | moin |
| 07:23.33 | Tarragon | Moin |
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| 09:47.34 | highbury | morning |
| 09:47.43 | nasrat | morning |
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| 09:49.29 | Axel | hi all |
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| 11:01.19 | JD | hi all |
| 11:25.27 | skugg | hi |
| 11:26.29 | JD | hi skugg |
| 11:28.00 | skugg | what ukuug stuff? |
| 11:28.19 | skugg | maybe i got it already... |
| 11:28.25 | JD | membership and stuff for edinburgh |
| 11:28.28 | skugg | you signed up not long ago, didn't you? |
| 11:28.30 | skugg | ok. |
| 11:28.35 | skugg | i think i've got that. |
| 11:28.39 | JD | have you brought a ticket yet? |
| 11:28.47 | skugg | dunno how the hell i'm going to prove my membership though... |
| 11:28.53 | skugg | i haven't got a card or anything, i think... |
| 11:29.01 | JD | niehter have I |
| 11:29.08 | JD | I just to a receipt and a newsletter |
| 11:29.11 | skugg | i haven't got a ticket, no |
| 11:29.15 | JD | s/to/got |
| 11:29.17 | skugg | ah. yeah. that's what i got |
| 11:30.32 | JD | "Thank you for your booking for the above event, I can confirm that a place has been reserved for you as detailed in the enclosed invoice" |
| 11:31.00 | JD | newsletter is mostly book reviews |
| 11:34.29 | skugg | yeah. |
| 11:34.51 | skugg | i get the newsletter, but i can't find my receipt ... |
| 11:34.52 | skugg | hm. |
| 11:35.30 | skugg | i have an email though, confirming the booking. |
| 11:59.30 | JD | mtv 2 are showing the Radiohead 'Just' video with peoples suggestions for the unsubtitled words |
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| 12:17.00 | NisoRamen | Afternoon all. |
| 12:17.07 | NisoRamen | Lively as usual i see. |
| 12:17.11 | Jenson | afternoon NisoRamen |
| 12:17.52 | Jenson | lol |
| 12:17.52 | skugg | hi NisoRamen :) |
| 12:17.56 | skugg | how's it going? |
| 12:18.01 | NisoRamen | What are you doing indoors on a lovely day like this Jenson? |
| 12:18.05 | NisoRamen | Skjugg hows the job? |
| 12:18.13 | skugg | NisoRamen, it's actually great :) |
| 12:18.17 | skugg | i really like it |
| 12:18.19 | NisoRamen | I hate you. |
| 12:18.20 | Jenson | NisoRamen: being at home lol |
| 12:18.22 | skugg | :P |
| 12:18.34 | skugg | NisoRamen, the catch: our product runs only on IE :P |
| 12:18.40 | NisoRamen | Give it seven years and working will seem less fun :) |
| 12:18.50 | NisoRamen | Skgg thats a feature :) |
| 12:18.59 | NisoRamen | Make sure they don't support AOL's browser :) |
| 12:19.04 | skugg | thus I'm now installing xp, since i didn't managed to install IE on my linux system (neither with wine, nor with crossoveroffice) |
| 12:19.15 | NisoRamen | Jenson your becoming one of us... panic about now. |
| 12:19.29 | NisoRamen | XP blows goats through a straw |
| 12:19.40 | NisoRamen | 2K or 2003 yes. XP no way in hell. |
| 12:19.52 | skugg | i don't care, as long as it can run IE :P |
| 12:19.57 | NisoRamen | It looks like it was built by a five year old who watches too much playschool. |
| 12:19.58 | skugg | it's the only thing i got handy |
| 12:20.02 | NisoRamen | Kinda like my Mac :) |
| 12:20.13 | skugg | (okay, i _do_ care... i refuse to use 9x :P |
| 12:20.30 | NisoRamen | Skugg you have an internet connection and astalavista... get which ever version you want :P |
| 12:20.31 | skugg | NisoRamen, yeah. but all that can be turned off... |
| 12:20.49 | NisoRamen | With the power switch i hope. |
| 12:20.50 | skugg | (which i do, of course) |
| 12:21.04 | skugg | everyone thinks i'm running 2000 ;) |
| 12:21.25 | NisoRamen | On the subject of IE the google toolbar beta for version 2 has popup blocking. And it works quite well. |
| 12:21.28 | Jenson | grr i wanna go to computer fairs, but there isnt one near me todat |
| 12:21.34 | NisoRamen | So your still running Linux underneath? |
| 12:21.50 | NisoRamen | Jenson take a trip to TCR. |
| 12:21.58 | NisoRamen | TCR == 2nd Home |
| 12:22.12 | NisoRamen | Tarragon wo ho. you about? |
| 12:22.22 | Jenson | NisoRamen: yeh, would cost me like £20 to get there though |
| 12:22.35 | NisoRamen | Where do you live, the Scotland? :) |
| 12:22.41 | Jenson | lol |
| 12:22.46 | Jenson | Nope, North East Essex |
| 12:22.50 | NisoRamen | Ah worse. |
| 12:22.51 | NisoRamen | hehe |
| 12:23.10 | skugg | NisoRamen, i think you'd actually like our product ;) |
| 12:23.19 | NisoRamen | I'd actually know how to use it as well. |
| 12:23.26 | skugg | yeah :) |
| 12:23.28 | NisoRamen | Its a lot cheaper than the ones i used to play with |
| 12:23.33 | NisoRamen | cheaper == good |
| 12:23.57 | skugg | yep. it's more or less only uk markets for now though... the upcoming one that we're developing will do international markets. |
| 12:24.12 | NisoRamen | Jenson shop on scan.co.uk, its only a tenner delivery, thats cheaper than your rail fair. |
| 12:24.12 | skugg | at twice the price, nearly, but still a lot cheaper than competition |
| 12:24.28 | NisoRamen | You need your AsiaPac figures, trust me :) |
| 12:24.30 | Jenson | NisoRamen: yeh good idea |
| 12:25.11 | NisoRamen | And no shoddy guys going "Miss, miss, i have special one behind counter... it should work..." |
| 12:25.29 | NisoRamen | Skugg you started watching the weather for the arable futures market yet? :) |
| 12:25.54 | Jenson | NisoRamen: Heh, I like laughing at the 'generic geeks' at the fairs |
| 12:25.55 | skugg | no... futures are scary :P |
| 12:26.16 | NisoRamen | Skugg no one ever makes money on futures, thats a well kept secret :) |
| 12:26.28 | NisoRamen | I am a 'generic geek' :) |
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| 12:27.06 | NisoRamen | Futures are like playing russian roulete with an automatic weapon |
| 12:27.17 | NisoRamen | Hi Leeds. |
| 12:27.20 | Jenson | heya Leeds |
| 12:28.11 | NisoRamen | I like the way the GLLUG irc notes tell you how to change channels... is that a hint? ;) |
| 12:28.13 | Leeds | afternoon guys |
| 12:28.20 | NisoRamen | And jenson |
| 12:28.22 | NisoRamen | hehe |
| 12:28.31 | Leeds | NisoRamen: long time no see... how's things? |
| 12:28.50 | NisoRamen | Not too bad. Redundent and laying in a lot ;) |
| 12:29.04 | NisoRamen | Hows work? Looking forward to the tiger release? ;) |
| 12:29.10 | Jenson | NisoRamen: heh i dont think i noticed that when i read it |
| 12:29.26 | NisoRamen | "Not a guy in any language, especially not brail" |
| 12:29.26 | Leeds | NisoRamen: tiger? Frosties? |
| 12:29.35 | NisoRamen | Tiger Java == 1.5 |
| 12:29.38 | NisoRamen | Generics |
| 12:29.40 | NisoRamen | yum |
| 12:29.45 | Leeds | Jenson: stephanb seems to think you're a bloke :-) |
| 12:30.12 | Jenson | Leeds: lol i was probably talking about hot women, thats enogh to confuse anyyone |
| 12:30.21 | NisoRamen | I do its funny. If you look hard enough you can see CSharp further up the hill ;) |
| 12:30.38 | NisoRamen | Jenson: tell us more... |
| 12:30.39 | Leeds | Jenson: I think it's assumed until proved otherwise |
| 12:30.46 | NisoRamen | In here anyway |
| 12:30.55 | NisoRamen | Pics don't count either ;) |
| 12:31.21 | NisoRamen | Leeds: On the http://www.gllug.org.uk/irc.html page whats the link3 on the right supposed to do? |
| 12:32.09 | Leeds | um, nothing |
| 12:32.11 | Leeds | I think |
| 12:32.18 | NisoRamen | I got that impression as well. |
| 12:32.25 | NisoRamen | By the server error it returned :) |
| 12:32.29 | Leeds | NisoRamen: I just installed 1.4.2 at home - works very smoothly with mozilla :-) |
| 12:33.00 | NisoRamen | I'm still on 1.4.1 on Windows and Linux and 1.3 on MacosX. Apparently startup is a shitload faster |
| 12:33.10 | Jenson | NisoRamen: Doesnt that depend on what type of pics :P |
| 12:33.16 | Leeds | according to the release notes, yes |
| 12:33.33 | NisoRamen | You've not noticed it or are you just using it as a browser plugin? |
| 12:33.47 | NisoRamen | Jenson: Everyone on heres a fella till you meet them face to face. Safer that way :) |
| 12:34.01 | NisoRamen | And those kind of pics are pretty easy to get from images.google.com... |
| 12:34.04 | Leeds | all I use it for is the BBC news ticker... and the *excellent* Wimbledon scoreboard |
| 12:34.08 | NisoRamen | So i've been told anyhow :) |
| 12:34.14 | Jenson | NisoRamen: Well, Leeds has met me, just keeps pretending he hasnt |
| 12:34.24 | NisoRamen | I have as well. But you don't know that |
| 12:34.30 | Jenson | have you |
| 12:34.31 | Jenson | lol |
| 12:34.32 | NisoRamen | I use rss instead of tickers... |
| 12:34.47 | NisoRamen | Yep. The last real gllug |
| 12:35.04 | NisoRamen | No one ever notices me. Odd considering how quiet i am :) |
| 12:35.12 | Jenson | What when I was with Ross and accidently got drunk and fell on people? |
| 12:35.23 | NisoRamen | I'd probably gone by then. |
| 12:35.26 | Leeds | http://home.earthlink.net/~dborer/G-nome.jpg |
| 12:35.40 | NisoRamen | WTF? |
| 12:35.47 | NisoRamen | Boat? |
| 12:36.00 | Leeds | found while googling for NisoRamen's real name... |
| 12:36.29 | NisoRamen | That has a loud audio file on the page above if you go up a level. |
| 12:36.41 | NisoRamen | I come up in the first twnety entires for me on google. |
| 12:36.42 | Jenson | NisoRamen: Did you used to be NisoDaemon? |
| 12:36.55 | Leeds | NisoRamen: not in the image search :-) |
| 12:36.58 | NisoRamen | And my new homepage seems to vanish from their indexes once a wekk. I was fifth last week now i don't even show up. |
| 12:37.03 | Leeds | http://www.medicalalumni.org/bulletin/summer2001/images/Dean-Wilson.jpg is number 1 |
| 12:37.20 | NisoRamen | No not in the image shots, i don't have a camera with a wide view lense ;) |
| 12:37.34 | NisoRamen | Yep. Always been Niso on here. |
| 12:37.40 | NisoRamen | Although i'm not really an IRCer |
| 12:37.46 | Jenson | NisoRamen: What with the name change then? |
| 12:38.03 | NisoRamen | Sorry should have said "Always been NisoDaemon on here" |
| 12:38.29 | NisoRamen | Couldn't think of anything more origanal. |
| 12:38.39 | Leeds | big on the noodles right now? |
| 12:38.57 | NisoRamen | Skugg: I read my way through the megatokyo archives yesterday. The arts really good. |
| 12:39.05 | NisoRamen | Nah, currymonster was taken ;) |
| 12:39.31 | Leeds | apparently you're a nerd... |
| 12:39.46 | Leeds | Dean Wilson of Shoreham, UK, is a nerd |
| 12:39.46 | Leeds | And is playing with RSS feeds. |
| 12:39.46 | Leeds | Does this work Dean? |
| 12:40.10 | Jenson | i havent read megatokyo properly ever, Alex reads it, thats the only time i've ever paid any attention to it |
| 12:40.27 | CockneyScum | Dammit |
| 12:40.30 | Jenson | lol |
| 12:40.42 | CockneyScum | Googlism Leeds? |
| 12:41.04 | CockneyScum | I've got a natural keyboard i can't use properly... |
| 12:41.10 | Leeds | plain google... |
| 12:41.46 | CockneyScum | You want http://googlism.com/ |
| 12:41.50 | CockneyScum | Much funnier. |
| 12:41.56 | CockneyScum | Put in ESR or RMS for a laugh |
| 12:42.51 | CockneyScum | Leeds you spoke to Trimmer in the last few months? |
| 12:43.07 | CockneyScum | Ops |
| 12:43.16 | CockneyScum | I HATE MIRC |
| 12:43.36 | Leeds | ibot kill mirc |
| 12:43.37 | | ACTION executes killall -9 mirc |
| 12:44.08 | skugg | CockneyScum, i like megatokyo. and one of the reasons is the good quality art, yes. |
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| 12:52.06 | CockneyScum | Well that was annoyging |
| 12:52.09 | Jenson | wb |
| 12:52.18 | Leeds | ibot insult CockneyScum |
| 12:52.18 | | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Leeds |
| 12:52.25 | Leeds | blah |
| 12:52.27 | Jenson | lol |
| 12:52.28 | CockneyScum | LOL |
| 12:52.34 | Jenson | ibot insult ibot |
| 12:52.35 | | go stick ibot's head in a pig, jenson. |
| 12:52.35 | CockneyScum | Thank you Perlbot :) |
| 12:52.51 | CockneyScum | ibot insult CamelCase |
| 12:52.52 | | i don't know, CockneyScum |
| 12:52.55 | Leeds | uh, what? |
| 12:53.08 | Leeds | ibot ibot |
| 12:53.08 | | it has been said that ibot is a blootbot now, no longer an infobot. run by BZFlag (TimRiker) on his server. see blootbot also http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ it uses SQLite but can use MySQL or other SQL for storage. |
| 12:53.14 | Jenson | ibot insult Leeds |
| 12:53.15 | | Jenson: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 12:53.31 | Jenson | bah are we now allowed to instult now |
| 12:53.31 | CockneyScum | Was curious if it was the camel case that stopped it |
| 12:53.41 | Jenson | ibot bitchslap CockneyScum |
| 12:53.43 | | ACTION beats the sh*t out of CockneyScum |
| 12:53.50 | Jenson | oh we still havr that one |
| 12:53.52 | CockneyScum | Nope. Not the camel case... |
| 12:54.08 | CockneyScum | ibot mock Jenson |
| 12:54.09 | | CockneyScum: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 12:54.13 | Jenson | lol |
| 12:54.14 | Jenson | BRB |
| 12:54.17 | CockneyScum | Hummm... |
| 12:54.25 | CockneyScum | I may need to RTFM... |
| 12:54.45 | CockneyScum | Skugg: You seen the strip with the wireless keyboard? |
| 12:55.50 | Leeds | stripping with a wireless keyboard? |
| 12:55.51 | skugg | CockneyScum, yeah ;) when it dies, you mean? :) |
| 12:56.29 | CockneyScum | Leeds thats... wrong. Get a feather boa like everyone else :) |
| 12:56.31 | CockneyScum | Skugg yep. |
| 12:57.29 | Leeds | bloody cracklib |
| 12:57.45 | CockneyScum | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/megatokyo/5ae5/ |
| 12:57.54 | CockneyScum | Leeds what ya doing? |
| 12:58.03 | CockneyScum | You being naughty? |
| 12:58.31 | Leeds | trying to (re-)register for the Virgin credit card members shop... and it's throwing out all sorts of decent passwords as "too easy to guess" |
| 12:58.39 | CockneyScum | LOL |
| 12:58.44 | CockneyScum | Thats a goodthing. |
| 12:59.16 | CockneyScum | Make your password a bra -(.)--(.)- ;) |
| 12:59.21 | Leeds | very friendly bloke on their customer service line though... asked me how my weekend was so far (short - not been up long) and told me that the company was throwing a party this evening with free food and drink and all :-) |
| 12:59.25 | CockneyScum | Or glasses if your innocent :) |
| 12:59.45 | CockneyScum | You pulled then? Thats what your trying to say :) |
| 13:00.21 | Leeds | um, no... |
| 13:00.25 | Leeds | :-% |
| 13:00.47 | CockneyScum | "Hows your weekend, I've seen your bank balance want to come to a party?" hehe |
| 13:01.23 | Leeds | hey - I can afford a DVD :-) |
| 13:01.31 | CockneyScum | I can afford the case.. |
| 13:01.57 | CockneyScum | thats neat: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/gaming/5b41/ |
| 13:02.16 | Leeds | thinkgeek has a major shipping overhead problem |
| 13:02.39 | CockneyScum | Really? I've not bought from them for years and was going to put an order in... |
| 13:02.57 | Jenson | back |
| 13:03.09 | CockneyScum | WB |
| 13:03.24 | Jenson | ty |
| 13:03.27 | CockneyScum | We're discussing clothes. Come on Jenson, prove your female :) |
| 13:03.30 | Jenson | had to get my rabbit some food |
| 13:03.35 | CockneyScum | LOL |
| 13:03.51 | CockneyScum | thats a new euphemism |
| 13:03.55 | Jenson | lol |
| 13:04.21 | Leeds | well, $13 minimal shipping... plus if it's above $SMALL_AMOUNT the VAT man grabs you and then the courier charges you for paying VAT on your behalf |
| 13:04.32 | CockneyScum | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/coder/57f0/ |
| 13:04.34 | CockneyScum | I want |
| 13:04.49 | CockneyScum | I don't remember it being that much a couple of years ago... |
| 13:04.59 | Leeds | argh |
| 13:05.17 | CockneyScum | Its cool. |
| 13:05.19 | Leeds | assume that for a single item, you pay twice the listed cost including shipping |
| 13:05.31 | CockneyScum | WOW |
| 13:05.36 | CockneyScum | Thats wrong. |
| 13:05.44 | Jenson | i'm bored, i wanna go to PCworld....I'm very bored |
| 13:05.51 | Jenson | plus I wanna go look at new RAM |
| 13:06.06 | Leeds | look at new RAM??? not particularly interesting to look at :-) |
| 13:06.13 | CockneyScum | Jenson you want to look at RAM?! |
| 13:06.14 | Jenson | heh |
| 13:06.19 | Jenson | probably cant afford any |
| 13:06.46 | Leeds | RAM cheap |
| 13:06.50 | CockneyScum | http://images.google.com/images?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&q=ddr+ram&sa=N&tab=wi |
| 13:06.55 | CockneyScum | Knock yourself out ;) |
| 13:07.25 | Leeds | heh |
| 13:07.30 | Jenson | If I wanted to *look* at RAM I could go pick up random dead sticks of it off my bedroom floor lol |
| 13:07.43 | CockneyScum | Your a strange strange girl. |
| 13:07.56 | Jenson | CockneyScum: comes with the geekness :P |
| 13:08.02 | CockneyScum | LOL true enough |
| 13:08.12 | CockneyScum | But going to PCWorld... |
| 13:08.15 | CockneyScum | Thats just wrong |
| 13:08.24 | Jenson | heh i know |
| 13:08.36 | Leeds | dunno... |
| 13:08.38 | Jenson | but its more fun than sitting on my arse |
| 13:08.43 | CockneyScum | Pay your trainfare and gi shoping properly. |
| 13:08.51 | Leeds | PCWorld Brent Cross has a half-decent components section |
| 13:08.52 | Jenson | any other week I'd be at my boyfriends, but he dumped me |
| 13:08.53 | CockneyScum | Jenson your not a full geek yet then ;) |
| 13:09.07 | Jenson | Leeds: PcWorld in Enfield is good too |
| 13:09.08 | Leeds | and apparently their trade prices are quite good |
| 13:09.08 | CockneyScum | Or maybe you are! |
| 13:09.27 | CockneyScum | No PCWorld |
| 13:09.29 | CockneyScum | Bad Leeds |
| 13:09.41 | Leeds | they're bloody convenient at 1630 on a Sunday... |
| 13:09.51 | CockneyScum | Hummmm..... |
| 13:09.57 | CockneyScum | I MIGHT let you have that. |
| 13:10.04 | Leeds | remember, I live out in the sticks :-) |
| 13:10.16 | CockneyScum | True. Your both country bumpkins |
| 13:10.19 | Jenson | Leeds: How many miles to your nearest PCWorld? |
| 13:10.25 | Jenson | CockneyScum: lol |
| 13:10.27 | Leeds | about 2.5 |
| 13:10.33 | Jenson | bah |
| 13:10.36 | Jenson | 16 from here |
| 13:10.39 | CockneyScum | Leeds was that a requirement when you moved in? :) |
| 13:10.43 | Leeds | Brent Cross, as I said... |
| 13:10.47 | Leeds | CockneyScum: nah... |
| 13:11.02 | CockneyScum | Jenson have they invented fire where you live yet? :) |
| 13:11.03 | Leeds | availability of ADSL was :-) |
| 13:11.12 | Jenson | CockneyScum: lol |
| 13:11.13 | CockneyScum | LOL I got that as well. Tis great |
| 13:11.22 | Jenson | We can get ADSL here, cept I'm not allowed |
| 13:11.24 | CockneyScum | Have you seen the bulldog lines? |
| 13:11.36 | CockneyScum | Not allowed? Sod that ;) |
| 13:11.54 | Jenson | My dad's best comment was 'No we aren't getting ADSL, stop blocking the phoneline' |
| 13:12.00 | CockneyScum | Jenson tell em its either ADSL or a grandchild :) |
| 13:12.07 | CockneyScum | That'l buck em up. |
| 13:12.11 | Jenson | CockneyScum: bah |
| 13:12.25 | Leeds | CockneyScum: bastards don't support my exchange... I *really* want a bulldog line! |
| 13:12.38 | Jenson | whats a bulldog line? |
| 13:12.40 | CockneyScum | "I can either go out and get pregnant or you can pay for my ADSL and i stay youing innocent and virginal." |
| 13:12.44 | CockneyScum | Might work :) |
| 13:12.46 | Leeds | CockneyScum: you offering to help Jenson out? |
| 13:12.52 | CockneyScum | http://www.bulldogdsl.com/residential/index.asp |
| 13:12.58 | Jenson | CockneyScum: except the innocent and virginal bit |
| 13:13.04 | CockneyScum | Jensons from Essex. We're not compantable. |
| 13:13.21 | Leeds | my exchange was one of the original test exchanges - it's had ADSL for about 6 years... but still no bulldog :-( |
| 13:13.25 | CockneyScum | 6mb line... |
| 13:13.28 | CockneyScum | Oh YES! |
| 13:13.47 | Leeds | essex shmessex... I seem to remember a different line from you in the past! :-) |
| 13:14.30 | CockneyScum | I say many things that come back to haunt me. was this the one about roadkill ? :) |
| 13:14.45 | Leeds | nope |
| 13:14.55 | CockneyScum | Jenson your not ginger are you? ;) |
| 13:15.21 | CockneyScum | Gingers == the only minority you can steill pick on l( |
| 13:15.26 | CockneyScum | Still. |
| 13:15.37 | Leeds | nah - Essex girls are still fair game :-P |
| 13:15.39 | Jenson | CockneyScum: nah I'm blonde :P |
| 13:15.44 | CockneyScum | I need a new keyboard... Maybe PCWorld is a good idea :) |
| 13:15.52 | CockneyScum | Really... tell me more :P |
| 13:16.07 | CockneyScum | Leeds I like to shar the mocery evenly ;) |
| 13:16.19 | Jenson | CockneyScum: I have 2 new ps/2 keyboards on my bedroom floor |
| 13:16.39 | CockneyScum | LOL at £20 worth of rail fair its faster to get one couried ;) |
| 13:16.45 | Jenson | Leeds: Screw the shower (not literally) just go out |
| 13:16.57 | CockneyScum | Leeds: Screw the shower. What again? ;) |
| 13:17.23 | Leeds | CockneyScum: you going to edinburgh? |
| 13:17.42 | CockneyScum | Nah, can't afford to go galavanting about while i'm out of work. |
| 13:17.49 | CockneyScum | And i missed all the rooms. |
| 13:18.14 | Leeds | oh? they all went? bugger... agk warned me about it last week and I didn't get around to booknig yet |
| 13:18.24 | CockneyScum | Ah. you as well. |
| 13:18.42 | CockneyScum | I need to drop a note and see if they ahve any left but it was looking less than likely |
| 13:19.01 | CockneyScum | jenson why do you have RAM and keyboards on the floor? Microwave them! |
| 13:19.06 | CockneyScum | Much more amusing |
| 13:19.16 | Jenson | CockneyScum: lol |
| 13:19.31 | CockneyScum | Never cooked RAM though... |
| 13:20.18 | CockneyScum | Leeds: you know Hearns is speaking don't you? |
| 13:20.23 | Leeds | yeah |
| 13:20.31 | Leeds | I can easily skip that though :-) |
| 13:20.32 | CockneyScum | About grids and shit... |
| 13:20.40 | CockneyScum | LOL layin == good on that day |
| 13:20.50 | CockneyScum | Get him pissed the night before. |
| 13:20.59 | Leeds | heh |
| 13:21.09 | CockneyScum | its not like he'll put up a struggle. |
| 13:21.20 | Jenson | hehehe |
| 13:21.35 | Leeds | didn't he swear off last time? |
| 13:21.43 | CockneyScum | Yeah but he's weak. |
| 13:21.59 | CockneyScum | Scotsman in Edinburgh should be easy enough to get hammered. |
| 13:22.00 | Leeds | true |
| 13:22.05 | Jenson | who was it that you got drunk and dancing on tables at FOSDEM |
| 13:22.23 | CockneyScum | LOL Nothing to do with me Jenson. |
| 13:22.25 | Leeds | CockneyScum: anyway - it's my b'day on Saturday night... |
| 13:22.39 | CockneyScum | And no GLLUG? 21 again? :) |
| 13:22.41 | Leeds | was assuming lots of drinking in Edinburgh would be fun... |
| 13:22.49 | CockneyScum | Ah the saturday of the conference. |
| 13:22.50 | Leeds | UKUUG saturday night |
| 13:23.15 | CockneyScum | Well if there are any more rooms i could make it if i scrimp a bit. |
| 13:23.24 | CockneyScum | I'll fire a note off to ukuug tonight. |
| 13:23.29 | CockneyScum | Jenson come to Scotland. |
| 13:23.35 | CockneyScum | We'll make an adult of ya :) |
| 13:23.40 | Leeds | aren't there still hostel rooms? I thought it was just the hotel rooms which were gone |
| 13:23.43 | Leeds | or hostel beds... |
| 13:23.49 | CockneyScum | I AINT STAYING IN A HOSTEL> |
| 13:23.55 | CockneyScum | Ahem |
| 13:23.57 | Leeds | WHY NOT? |
| 13:24.15 | CockneyScum | The first fosdem, 4am, six pissed german debian developers... long story |
| 13:24.15 | Leeds | I'D PREFER NOT TO, BUT IF IT'S ALL THAT'S AVAILABLE |
| 13:24.25 | CockneyScum | But it involved lots of singing. |
| 13:24.31 | Jenson | CockneyScum: Sounds like you wanna do me or something.... |
| 13:24.39 | CockneyScum | If i ever find them i'll kill them ALL. |
| 13:24.59 | Leeds | ah Germans... |
| 13:25.01 | CockneyScum | Jenson it'll either make you a true geek or send you running for cover when you seee this lot in a pub pissed at 3 am. |
| 13:25.04 | Leeds | ah Debian developers... |
| 13:25.10 | Leeds | avoid both froups |
| 13:25.13 | CockneyScum | Yeah, not a good combination. |
| 13:25.13 | Jenson | CockneyScum: lol |
| 13:25.24 | CockneyScum | And the songs were in german. |
| 13:25.29 | CockneyScum | They did sound funny thought. |
| 13:25.44 | CockneyScum | But not all threw the FSCKING NIGHT in the room next door. |
| 13:26.10 | Leeds | eh... just start singing about world wars and world cups... |
| 13:26.18 | CockneyScum | No, that was me... |
| 13:26.27 | CockneyScum | two world wars and one world cup... do dah |
| 13:26.31 | CockneyScum | do dah |
| 13:26.35 | CockneyScum | hehe |
| 13:27.02 | CockneyScum | I looked quite menacing at fou AM near stark bollock naked. |
| 13:27.04 | Leeds | which I found to be a very strange thing to sing to a bunch of Germans at Tel Aviv airport... |
| 13:27.16 | CockneyScum | Yep. |
| 13:27.21 | CockneyScum | And singning as well. |
| 13:27.32 | CockneyScum | Didn't shut the gits up though. |
| 13:27.41 | Leeds | should have sat on them... |
| 13:27.53 | CockneyScum | They were german debian people... i looked slender... |
| 13:27.59 | Leeds | or got some russians and yanks to gang up on them from different directions... |
| 13:28.11 | CockneyScum | See the fun you miss Jenson. Good idea don't g ;) |
| 13:28.12 | CockneyScum | go |
| 13:28.27 | CockneyScum | The first fosdem was just me Hearnds, Alice and Vince. |
| 13:28.45 | JD | but that is with 5 other english DDs |
| 13:28.55 | Leeds | CockneyScum: and some belgians, I guess |
| 13:29.03 | JD | this years FOSDEM was fun |
| 13:29.09 | CockneyScum | LOL. Hate to be in the room next to yours JD ;) |
| 13:29.18 | CockneyScum | FOSDEMS allways fun. |
| 13:29.27 | Jenson | I was gonna go to FOSDEM but I couldnt make up my mind |
| 13:29.30 | CockneyScum | I love the way the waiters expect you to remember what you've drunk! |
| 13:29.31 | Jenson | I was meant to go with Dan |
| 13:29.38 | CockneyScum | Did Dan go? |
| 13:29.41 | CockneyScum | Ah yes |
| 13:29.55 | CockneyScum | He came out for dinner on the first night. |
| 13:29.58 | Jenson | Yeah, I was dating him at the time |
| 13:30.01 | JD | CockneyScum: esp after 8 r so |
| 13:30.22 | CockneyScum | And its not like they are normal size glasses either! |
| 13:30.49 | CockneyScum | LOL Does Jenson live in an old tech storeroom? |
| 13:31.12 | JD | CockneyScum: worse, Essex |
| 13:31.30 | CockneyScum | LOL nice to know i'm not alone on that sentement ;) |
| 13:31.49 | CockneyScum | East London != Essex. Just a little too close :) |
| 13:32.28 | JD | CockneyScum: Jenson is in deepest darkest Essex otherwise known as sudbury |
| 13:32.51 | CockneyScum | I've seen that on the map, its next to the "Here be Dragons" marker... |
| 13:33.05 | JD | I realise that is next to the Suffolk border but suffolk is tarished by association if you ask me |
| 13:33.34 | CockneyScum | Nah thats pretty fair. Essex would be great if we could move it somehwere else... Maybe Wales. |
| 13:33.47 | CockneyScum | You can't really lower the property values in Wales :) |
| 13:34.26 | CockneyScum | "an eathquake hit Wales today and caused £5 millon pounds worth of renervations" |
| 13:34.36 | JD | lol |
| 13:35.00 | JD | it is full of essex girls |
| 13:35.09 | CockneyScum | One hates it one desipises it? :) |
| 13:35.26 | JD | but then there are some fscking gourgeous women there |
| 13:35.35 | Jenson | back |
| 13:35.37 | JD | maybe they are just visiting :) |
| 13:35.44 | CockneyScum | LOL shhh maybe she won't notice ;) |
| 13:35.54 | Jenson | JD: there is a fscking gorgeous woman just started working in the local shop |
| 13:36.06 | JD | no there isn;t |
| 13:36.06 | skugg | JD, i don't see how that makes essex different from any other part of the country (or the world, for that matter) |
| 13:36.08 | CockneyScum | "Its a local shop for local people..." |
| 13:36.11 | JD | I went in there the other day |
| 13:36.13 | Jenson | CockneyScum: lol |
| 13:36.24 | JD | skugg: have you been there? |
| 13:36.33 | CockneyScum | Skugg your from forn parts, you don't understand. |
| 13:36.43 | skugg | JD, no. but your description holds for everyhwere else i've been. |
| 13:36.56 | CockneyScum | I can't help it, there goes the horizon. |
| 13:37.06 | CockneyScum | Eclipse! |
| 13:37.07 | CockneyScum | hehe |
| 13:37.16 | Jenson | loo |
| 13:37.19 | Jenson | erm lol |
| 13:37.21 | Jenson | evben |
| 13:37.26 | skugg | CockneyScum, come to ukuug in edinburgh with us! i need someone likeminded to chuckle at snide comments with :P |
| 13:37.30 | CockneyScum | Bit too much information :) |
| 13:37.37 | CockneyScum | Skugg they have NO rooms left |
| 13:37.39 | CockneyScum | I asked. |
| 13:37.48 | CockneyScum | I'm not stayingin a hostel. |
| 13:37.49 | JD | skugg: the women in essex are strange |
| 13:38.01 | JD | lots of blonde |
| 13:38.09 | skugg | CockneyScum, i'm staying in a BB, with jd. |
| 13:38.13 | CockneyScum | Blondes == good. |
| 13:38.25 | skugg | CockneyScum, they didn't have any rooms left a month ago when I ordered either... |
| 13:38.38 | JD | skugg: think teenage mums pushing prams around council estates and the would describe about 85% of the girls there |
| 13:38.50 | CockneyScum | JD its not too different where i am. |
| 13:38.52 | JD | skugg: it was a twin wasn't it? |
| 13:38.55 | CockneyScum | LOL |
| 13:39.02 | JD | CockneyScum: it is here |
| 13:39.05 | CockneyScum | JD and his norweign Aupaire |
| 13:39.08 | JD | Essex is just different |
| 13:39.11 | skugg | JD, *purr* no, i ordered a single room... |
| 13:39.14 | skugg | did i forget to tell? |
| 13:39.15 | CockneyScum | Ew |
| 13:39.18 | skugg | uh oh... |
| 13:39.30 | skugg | JD, of course it's a twin room you dolt :P |
| 13:39.33 | JD | skugg: well you can sleep on the floor then |
| 13:39.44 | CockneyScum | Very gentlemanly of you :) |
| 13:39.57 | CockneyScum | JD practise kipping with one eye open! |
| 13:40.08 | JD | CockneyScum: it would have been his cock up so he can suffer |
| 13:40.19 | CockneyScum | Thats a really bad sentance... |
| 13:40.21 | JD | oh bad choice of words |
| 13:40.28 | Leeds | heh |
| 13:40.36 | CockneyScum | Do you two want to be alone? :) |
| 13:40.50 | JD | Leeds: itcan't be that bad |
| 13:40.52 | CockneyScum | Sorry hostile. |
| 13:40.54 | skugg | JD, freudian slip? :P |
| 13:41.04 | JD | skugg: I bloody hope not |
| 13:41.05 | CockneyScum | skugg you better hope not :) |
| 13:41.18 | skugg | CockneyScum, oh, i know to defend myself :P |
| 13:41.29 | CockneyScum | LOL |
| 13:41.43 | CockneyScum | Victim or perp? Who knows. |
| 13:41.44 | JD | skugg: any funny business and you will have to find your own way home :) |
| 13:41.55 | skugg | JD, :P |
| 13:42.10 | CockneyScum | Skugg remember their kilts not skirts... |
| 13:42.15 | Leeds | CockneyScum: what's the difference? |
| 13:42.19 | skugg | CockneyScum, yep. i'm aware :P |
| 13:42.21 | Leeds | between victim and perp |
| 13:42.28 | CockneyScum | Leeds i'm noever going on the pull with you... |
| 13:42.32 | CockneyScum | Ah right |
| 13:42.33 | CockneyScum | lol |
| 13:42.43 | skugg | Leeds, kilts are generally worn by the _male_ population? |
| 13:42.59 | CockneyScum | Leeds lag caught him out a bit me thinks :) |
| 13:43.10 | skugg | hehhe |
| 13:43.11 | Leeds | brain lag... watching TV elsewhere |
| 13:43.43 | CockneyScum | Anything good on? |
| 13:43.45 | CockneyScum | As i. |
| 13:43.46 | CockneyScum | f |
| 13:43.53 | Leeds | futurama... from some time in the past |
| 13:43.55 | Jenson | bllody hell, why did i try to test on this fscking weird dell system |
| 13:44.10 | CockneyScum | Dells make good laptops... |
| 13:44.30 | Leeds | Jenson: you're a fool... |
| 13:44.36 | Jenson | done it, probably destroyed it in the process though |
| 13:44.38 | CockneyScum | WASP IN ROOM BRB |
| 13:45.10 | Leeds | argh |
| 13:45.20 | JD | other than being in #gluug and other obvious similarities |
| 13:45.38 | Leeds | JD: watch it... |
| 13:45.46 | skugg | what would that be? neither wear glasses? |
| 13:46.25 | Jenson | its booting pretty fast considering 2 out of the 4 RAM sticks currently in it are dead |
| 13:46.38 | CockneyScum | Dead wasp. fear the weight of Knuth. |
| 13:46.53 | CockneyScum | Go JD, don't keep us in suspence. |
| 13:47.04 | CockneyScum | jenson... take the dead ones out? |
| 13:47.10 | CockneyScum | Just a thought :) |
| 13:47.10 | JD | scared of wasps |
| 13:47.22 | Jenson | CockneyScum: yeh and put the working ones back in would be a good idea |
| 13:47.24 | Leeds | much respect for weight of Knuth |
| 13:47.27 | CockneyScum | Not scared. Just not keen on them sititng on my monitor. |
| 13:47.28 | JD | CockneyScum: one volume or the boxed set? |
| 13:47.34 | skugg | argh... how do i turn off the FECKING sounds in XP? |
| 13:47.35 | CockneyScum | Vaolume 2. |
| 13:47.36 | Leeds | I prefer chemical weaponry |
| 13:47.39 | CockneyScum | Only one i own |
| 13:47.43 | Leeds | skugg: pull the speaker |
| 13:47.54 | CockneyScum | it was cheaper than a doorstop ;) |
| 13:48.01 | JD | skugg: see the speaker in the bottom left |
| 13:48.06 | JD | turn the slider down |
| 13:48.18 | JD | CockneyScum: expensive doorstop |
| 13:48.25 | CockneyScum | Skugg - Start - settings-control panel - sounds and multimedia. |
| 13:48.29 | skugg | Leeds, on a laptop? |
| 13:48.31 | CockneyScum | JD Got it cheap second hand. |
| 13:48.42 | skugg | CockneyScum, thanks. you saved me lots of trouble. |
| 13:48.46 | CockneyScum | Guy in the shop seemed scared of it :) |
| 13:48.58 | JD | sadly I graduated 2 years ago and I still haven;t read it |
| 13:49.12 | Leeds | skugg: try smacking it until it shuts up |
| 13:49.13 | CockneyScum | Does grivity really distort when all three volumnes are together? :) |
| 13:49.29 | CockneyScum | Leeds: Ever considered marriage councelling :) |
| 13:49.40 | Jenson | lol CockneyScum |
| 13:49.45 | JD | CockneyScum: lets just say my shelves are really well attached to the wall |
| 13:49.50 | Leeds | CockneyScum: yes, yes I have |
| 13:50.00 | CockneyScum | JD, i know the feeling. |
| 13:50.16 | CockneyScum | LOL well in six months when Sun goes pop... ;) |
| 13:50.36 | Leeds | CockneyScum: watch it... |
| 13:50.54 | JD | Leeds: I think he is with baited breath |
| 13:50.56 | CockneyScum | Scott McNealy: "Lets embrace Linux." |
| 13:51.05 | CockneyScum | Entire world: "Nice catch up." |
| 13:51.29 | skugg | heh |
| 13:51.30 | CockneyScum | Scott McNealy: "But by embracing Linux our own market segment it cut into..." |
| 13:51.30 | JD | Leeds: "sun is god" |
| 13:51.36 | Leeds | ah, we've been embracing Linux for years... the big change is admitting x86 exists |
| 13:51.46 | CockneyScum | Entire world: "What market segment? :)" |
| 13:52.05 | Leeds | CockneyScum: remind me of your employment status? |
| 13:52.13 | CockneyScum | Sun == pretty purple boxes :) |
| 13:52.20 | CockneyScum | Leeds: Independent Author ;) |
| 13:52.43 | Leeds | well, as long as you can make a living... |
| 13:52.45 | JD | s/Independant/unemployed/ |
| 13:52.47 | CockneyScum | Well, its nice to have someone with good teeth on our side JD :) |
| 13:53.02 | Leeds | scary teeth |
| 13:53.05 | CockneyScum | All we have at the mo are ESR and RMS... |
| 13:53.25 | CockneyScum | About? |
| 13:53.28 | Leeds | neither of whom have particularly impressive teeth |
| 13:53.49 | CockneyScum | Scott Mcnealy has a tanned body and white teeth. ESR and RMS have white bodies and tanned teeth ;) |
| 13:53.52 | JD | don't forget Bruce |
| 13:53.58 | CockneyScum | Perens? |
| 13:54.07 | Leeds | I don't recall his teeth |
| 13:54.12 | CockneyScum | LOL |
| 13:54.21 | JD | does he have teeth |
| 13:54.29 | JD | wasn't I going for food a minute ago? |
| 13:54.32 | Leeds | yeah, I think so |
| 13:54.48 | CockneyScum | All the pictures n google have his mouth closed. |
| 13:54.53 | CockneyScum | Maybe he doesn't |
| 13:54.57 | CockneyScum | http://images.google.com/images?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=bruce+perens&sa=N&tab=wi |
| 13:55.05 | JD | Leeds: you don't need to repeat yourself |
| 13:55.12 | Jenson | well, looks like both NICs work, altough one seems to prevent the PC seeing the HDD for some reason |
| 13:55.17 | Leeds | JD: two questions, two answers |
| 13:55.24 | JD | oh okay |
| 13:55.25 | JD | oh okay |
| 13:55.28 | CockneyScum | Jenson Thats odd... |
| 13:55.36 | CockneyScum | You didn't knock a cable did you? |
| 13:55.42 | Jenson | thats ewhat i though |
| 13:55.46 | Jenson | but i took the NIC out |
| 13:55.50 | Jenson | and now its booted |
| 13:55.53 | Leeds | he has teeth... |
| 13:55.56 | Leeds | http://www.irishcomputer.com/pics/bruceperens.gif |
| 13:56.00 | Jenson | so I'll now try again |
| 13:56.02 | CockneyScum | And it can see it again? |
| 13:56.08 | Jenson | yeh |
| 13:56.14 | CockneyScum | JD punctuation and spelling just slow down my replies :) |
| 13:56.19 | CockneyScum | Weird |
| 13:56.24 | JD | Jenson; thats odd |
| 13:56.25 | CockneyScum | power issues? |
| 13:56.38 | CockneyScum | Try pulling another card out but leace the nic in? |
| 13:56.42 | CockneyScum | leave |
| 13:57.02 | Jenson | im looking t it now |
| 13:57.03 | gregj | re |
| 13:57.15 | Jenson | i just had the first NIC in there fne tohugh |
| 13:57.16 | CockneyScum | JD? You that hungry? :) |
| 13:57.22 | Jenson | but I dunno if this one works |
| 13:57.26 | CockneyScum | Both the same brand? |
| 13:57.59 | CockneyScum | Leeds ignore the teeth look at those eyebrows! |
| 13:58.06 | CockneyScum | Spock wants them back! |
| 13:58.22 | CockneyScum | Interesting greeting Greg :) |
| 13:58.36 | Leeds | big eyebrows are manly... |
| 13:58.43 | Leeds | or so my mum says... |
| 13:58.44 | Jenson | i dont know anything about this one |
| 13:58.49 | Jenson | the other one is an intel one |
| 13:58.54 | Leeds | hey gregj |
| 13:58.55 | Jenson | and i knew that worked |
| 13:59.19 | CockneyScum | Hummm... My professiional view is to only use the working one :) |
| 13:59.21 | gregj | Leeds: :] |
| 13:59.28 | Jenson | well yeh |
| 13:59.31 | CockneyScum | lol |
| 13:59.38 | Jenson | but i cant network with just one card |
| 13:59.46 | Leeds | it's called loopback |
| 13:59.49 | CockneyScum | You've got loopback, don't be greedy :) |
| 14:00.22 | Jenson | i really wanna know what the red light on the card is trying to tell me |
| 14:00.27 | Jenson | no connection i expect |
| 14:00.35 | Jenson | i think i'll test this modem in a minute too |
| 14:00.40 | CockneyScum | Is it flashing or always on? |
| 14:00.40 | Leeds | incoming missiles |
| 14:00.45 | CockneyScum | LOL |
| 14:00.51 | Leeds | DUCK! |
| 14:00.56 | CockneyScum | Essex IS biological weaponry :) |
| 14:01.03 | JD | Jenson: what are you doing? |
| 14:01.35 | JD | are you working or playing? |
| 14:01.38 | CockneyScum | JD never ask questions to which you don't want answers :) |
| 14:01.58 | Jenson | JD: trying to learn, every job I've looked at asks for networking experience |
| 14:02.00 | JD | CockneyScum: I haven't |
| 14:02.16 | JD | Jenson: good for you |
| 14:02.26 | Jenson | well, I'm not learning anything |
| 14:02.36 | JD | Jenson: yes you are |
| 14:02.49 | JD | you just don't reallise it |
| 14:02.58 | CockneyScum | Jenson have you looked at nic alising? it'll let you pretend you have multiple nics in one machine. Won't let you talk to the other machine but it might be a start. |
| 14:03.15 | CockneyScum | if you only have one working nic. |
| 14:03.22 | Jenson | While I'm here, I think I'll go find the other RAM for this machine and put it back |
| 14:03.33 | JD | CockneyScum: let her walk first |
| 14:03.50 | CockneyScum | True. But if only one card works... |
| 14:04.04 | CockneyScum | Leeds as a member of the human race i beg of you no! |
| 14:04.20 | JD | Leeds: for you or Jenson |
| 14:04.38 | Leeds | JD: me... |
| 14:04.40 | CockneyScum | And just when you think you've reached the level of ickyness ;) |
| 14:05.03 | JD | I don't know what it is but most women just don't look right in non-jeans trousers |
| 14:05.20 | CockneyScum | JD your just not fantasizing enough... |
| 14:05.43 | JD | CockneyScum: no I don;lt think that is the problem |
| 14:05.52 | JD | hmm |
| 14:05.57 | CockneyScum | In shorts? |
| 14:06.02 | Jenson | or out fo them |
| 14:06.04 | JD | or skirts? |
| 14:06.31 | Jenson | i have no idea which of these RAM sticks work or go in here |
| 14:06.35 | CockneyScum | Its not a skirt its a kilt... |
| 14:06.49 | CockneyScum | JD your going to need to know the dfference for the UKUUG ;0 |
| 14:06.52 | JD | Jenson: are they all the same type? |
| 14:07.12 | CockneyScum | Can you tell the type of memeory in use on a running Linux system? |
| 14:07.24 | JD | CockneyScum: no |
| 14:07.32 | CockneyScum | Didn't think so. Dammit. |
| 14:07.35 | JD | aiui only the bios can tell |
| 14:07.46 | JD | and te bios doesn;t export that information |
| 14:07.48 | Leeds | you could probably rig something to guess the speed... |
| 14:07.51 | Jenson | JD: thats what im tryin to wor out |
| 14:08.20 | CockneyScum | be nice if somehting like /proc/meminfo had it available. shame |
| 14:08.24 | JD | you can use memtest86 to guess the FSB |
| 14:08.30 | Jenson | ooh i see, its the one with the stickers on |
| 14:08.36 | Leeds | heh |
| 14:08.39 | JD | if it is PC100 PC133 PC2100 etc |
| 14:08.47 | CockneyScum | got ya |
| 14:08.51 | CockneyScum | Never thought of that |
| 14:09.22 | CockneyScum | If you've got one pc100 slowing down a batch of pc133's what does it report? Is the report per chip or entire? |
| 14:09.37 | JD | entire |
| 14:09.52 | CockneyScum | Ah ok, so take em out and test em one at a time. |
| 14:09.58 | CockneyScum | Thank you Leeds :) |
| 14:10.00 | Jenson | ]oh ffs i hate chanign RAM kik |
| 14:10.01 | Jenson | lo0l |
| 14:10.03 | CockneyScum | Go get your food |
| 14:10.32 | CockneyScum | Remeber calm controlled breaths Jenson. And it won't work until you bleed on it ;) |
| 14:10.49 | Leeds | hah |
| 14:11.07 | CockneyScum | You must bleed to apease the system. |
| 14:11.11 | Jenson | CockneyScum: it usually doesnt work after ive tried to change it anyway |
| 14:11.30 | CockneyScum | LOL Your not alone on that one ;) |
| 14:11.43 | Jenson | It was when Ross said to me 'You know you sshouldnt touch the chips dont you' that was the worse |
| 14:12.00 | CockneyScum | Do you have your anti staic wristband tied to the radiator? ;) |
| 14:12.43 | JD | Jenson: static is overrated |
| 14:13.07 | JD | the only thin I try to no do is touch CPU pins and memoy conncetions |
| 14:13.17 | JD | try not to do |
| 14:13.25 | CockneyScum | Or anything thats whirling quickly ;) |
| 14:13.33 | Jenson | lol |
| 14:13.53 | CockneyScum | "I wonder if thats fans fast enough?" "OW OW OW OW!" |
| 14:14.02 | CockneyScum | Although it was late when i did that... |
| 14:14.42 | Jenson | bugger |
| 14:14.53 | CockneyScum | LOL nice quit message. |
| 14:14.54 | Jenson | 32 MB more of fucked RAM |
| 14:15.24 | JD | Jenson: does it not boot? |
| 14:15.32 | Jenson | grr now i've taken the nic out and it isnt booting |
| 14:15.34 | Jenson | bloody thing |
| 14:15.47 | JD | Jenson: welcome to the world of PC internals |
| 14:16.26 | Jenson | guess i better rip that memory out again then |
| 14:16.51 | JD | and computers definitely seem to like blood sacrafices |
| 14:17.05 | CockneyScum | Jenson how old is the kit? |
| 14:17.28 | Jenson | erm P200 |
| 14:17.44 | Jenson | well its still not booting |
| 14:17.58 | CockneyScum | Does it beep or flash the keyboard when you turn it on? |
| 14:18.07 | Jenson | looks like i'm not toally 4 dead HDDs and aover 100MB or RAM |
| 14:18.10 | CockneyScum | I mean the caps lock light and similar. |
| 14:18.14 | Jenson | now totally even |
| 14:18.17 | Jenson | i know what you mean |
| 14:18.19 | Jenson | i can soret it |
| 14:18.36 | Jenson | bloody thing |
| 14:18.50 | CockneyScum | Your going to send me shppping, you do this dont you... |
| 14:19.44 | Jenson | well that looks like ive killed my only spare slack install |
| 14:19.54 | Jenson | so im kinda fscked now |
| 14:20.30 | Jenson | ohhhh i can hold down F1 and make nice beeping noises |
| 14:20.35 | CockneyScum | LOL |
| 14:20.46 | CockneyScum | Does it play tunes as well? ;) |
| 14:20.51 | Jenson | nope |
| 14:20.58 | Jenson | just goes beepbeep beepbeep beepbeep |
| 14:21.11 | CockneyScum | But only when you hold f1 or whenever you turn it on? |
| 14:21.26 | Jenson | yeh |
| 14:21.33 | Jenson | i'll test it properly in a minute |
| 14:21.35 | CockneyScum | X86 hardware sucks. |
| 14:21.55 | CockneyScum | Its inconsistent, not tested enough and breaks too easy. |
| 14:22.17 | stephen | yes, well at least it's cheap |
| 14:22.23 | CockneyScum | True. |
| 14:22.38 | stephen | and you can still get great reliability with x86 hardware |
| 14:22.45 | Jenson | well no point going to PCWorld now |
| 14:22.50 | CockneyScum | Mostly through reduncency... |
| 14:22.51 | Jenson | I've fucked everything as usual |
| 14:23.06 | Jenson | I'm seriously running out of testing hardware now |
| 14:23.25 | CockneyScum | It may be just the one component stopping the rest from working. |
| 14:24.08 | stephen | true, which is why its so easy and cheap to deal with this kind of off-the-shelf hardware |
| 14:24.32 | stephen | only gotta replace one small thing |
| 14:24.47 | CockneyScum | But when it dones't work its a pain in the arse, more a bin and buy. |
| 14:24.53 | JD | Jenson: take the vga card out and put it back |
| 14:25.08 | CockneyScum | If it breaks they have to pick it up and bring me back a working laptop. |
| 14:25.21 | CockneyScum | Alledigly. |
| 14:25.39 | stephen | well I don't have a couple of grand to spend on a computer :p |
| 14:25.40 | Jenson | well ive lost it |
| 14:25.42 | JD | CockneyScum: I get 3 years fronm IBM for no extra charge |
| 14:25.45 | CockneyScum | Allegedly |
| 14:26.01 | CockneyScum | Stephan five hour battery life ;) |
| 14:26.06 | Jenson | JD: integrated card, might pull out the strange thing though |
| 14:26.08 | CockneyScum | JD you have a thinkpad? |
| 14:26.28 | JD | Jenson: don't bother then |
| 14:26.32 | CockneyScum | I bought the low end ibook, it was under a K with wireless and applecare. |
| 14:26.49 | stephen | that ain't bad then |
| 14:26.52 | JD | Jenson: a good test is to remove something and see if anything changes beep wise |
| 14:27.02 | JD | CockneyScum: X30 |
| 14:27.10 | JD | CockneyScum: 1.6Kg |
| 14:27.11 | CockneyScum | its lacking the dvd burner and cdrw but i have X86 boxes for that :) |
| 14:27.36 | JD | CockneyScum: and will do 3 hours+ |
| 14:27.40 | CockneyScum | No idea what mines ways... I've got a lot of data on the drive so its probably heavier now ;) |
| 14:27.51 | JD | double that if I attack the docking station |
| 14:28.09 | CockneyScum | Is that with wireless? My dell lat seems to half in life if i use wireless with it. |
| 14:28.29 | JD | no wlan |
| 14:28.47 | Jenson | well i can se damage on the bit i cant think of a name for but that shouldnt make a difference i wouldnt think |
| 14:28.50 | CockneyScum | Ah ok. That seems to cain the power on most X86 laptops i've played with. |
| 14:29.27 | CockneyScum | Nice sweeping statements ;) |
| 14:29.48 | JD | I can't get the interal modem to work under linux, but otherwise fine |
| 14:30.13 | *** join/#gllug BorgBaby (seamus@modem-552.clefairy.dialup.pol.co.uk) |
| 14:30.17 | CockneyScum | Do the thinkpads have usb2 or firewire these days? |
| 14:30.24 | CockneyScum | Hi Borg |
| 14:30.26 | JD | this has fw |
| 14:30.28 | BorgBaby | hi |
| 14:30.45 | CockneyScum | JD: 2.2.20-idepci |
| 14:30.46 | CockneyScum | hehe |
| 14:30.49 | CockneyScum | conservative ;) |
| 14:30.57 | JD | Debian? |
| 14:31.04 | CockneyScum | Shhh yep ;) |
| 14:31.16 | JD | Jenson: you are learning |
| 14:31.22 | JD | you just don't think you are |
| 14:31.27 | JD | stick with it |
| 14:31.32 | JD | it will all work out |
| 14:31.32 | BorgBaby | Jenson - try stroking it & talking nicely to it... |
| 14:31.36 | CockneyScum | Its a sharp learning curve. |
| 14:31.36 | JD | trust me |
| 14:31.37 | Jenson | JD: I'm learning that everytime I try I kill it |
| 14:31.43 | Jenson | BorgBaby: Its a computer not a bloke |
| 14:31.48 | CockneyScum | LOL |
| 14:31.52 | BorgBaby | works the same! ;-) |
| 14:31.54 | JD | Jenson: CockneyScum is right |
| 14:32.00 | JD | it is rather steep |
| 14:32.02 | Jenson | I wanted this system to use as a server |
| 14:32.32 | JD | remove all cards except any vga card |
| 14:32.32 | CockneyScum | Mpst peoplen that can do software can't do hardware, its a different world. |
| 14:32.51 | CockneyScum | Most people smartarse :) |
| 14:33.01 | CockneyScum | Anyone on gllug gets the benefit of the doubt :) |
| 14:33.10 | CockneyScum | We 31337 |
| 14:33.12 | CockneyScum | lol |
| 14:33.24 | Jenson | lol |
| 14:33.27 | JD | Jenson: then put a single stick of memory in |
| 14:33.40 | JD | Jenson: remove all HDD too but leave FDD connceted |
| 14:33.43 | Jenson | i forgot, when i was on work experience I killed a mobo |
| 14:33.59 | Jenson | JD: this isnt a graphics problem |
| 14:34.06 | JD | Jenson: I know |
| 14:34.18 | BorgBaby | Jenson : what is the problem? |
| 14:34.21 | JD | Jenson: strip the machinen down as much as possible and start formthere |
| 14:34.24 | Jenson | its too hot in here running to sytems |
| 14:34.33 | JD | Jenson: have only FDD, VGA, memory and CPU attached |
| 14:34.39 | Jenson | BorgBaby: I killed another HDD and more RAM again |
| 14:34.50 | JD | Jenson: you may not hve killed it |
| 14:34.58 | JD | in fact I doubt you have |
| 14:35.07 | BorgBaby | unless you've blown it up, it's probably still ok |
| 14:35.07 | CockneyScum | Killing a harddrive is pretty difficult... |
| 14:35.23 | BorgBaby | have you got power ? |
| 14:36.28 | CockneyScum | JD your a debian guy, explain to me why none of the debian docs are avaialble as single page version for easy printing? (http://www.debian.org/doc/) |
| 14:36.41 | CockneyScum | Its annpoying as heck :) |
| 14:36.53 | Jenson | i'm not really bothered about it, it just proves i was never born to work with computers so i'm fscked |
| 14:36.56 | JD | CockneyScum: try to get the PDF versions |
| 14:37.21 | CockneyScum | They do PDf versions? or do i convert them myself. |
| 14:37.23 | JD | Jenson: no, it just proves you haven;t played around long enough |
| 14:37.29 | JD | what are you after? |
| 14:37.39 | JD | hmmm cut grass |
| 14:37.41 | Jenson | JD: well i'm pretty much out of working hardware now |
| 14:38.01 | JD | Jenson: have you don't wahat I jusggested? |
| 14:38.05 | BorgBaby | Jenson : check you have power (psu + fan), then check ram is properly inserted and that ide cables are right way round |
| 14:38.11 | CockneyScum | Different things at different times, i'm more of a Redhat guy and i'm just getting srtated with Debian. |
| 14:38.17 | JD | BorgBaby: I would remove IDE for now |
| 14:38.40 | JD | Jenson: sod IDE |
| 14:38.42 | BorgBaby | JD: maybe, I meant do it in 3 steps1 |
| 14:38.43 | JD | get memory working first |
| 14:38.56 | CockneyScum | I'm with JD on this one. |
| 14:38.59 | Jenson | the memory thats in there does work |
| 14:39.06 | JD | Jenson: it does |
| 14:39.08 | JD | right |
| 14:39.22 | Jenson | well its the samew memory that was working 10 mins agho anyway |
| 14:39.27 | JD | what drives do yu have? |
| 14:39.27 | BorgBaby | you can get a BIOS post prompt? |
| 14:39.39 | Jenson | currently just the floppy and cd |
| 14:39.46 | Jenson | gonna find another idecable |
| 14:39.47 | JD | can you see the CD? |
| 14:39.59 | JD | does the bios see the CD even |
| 14:40.33 | JD | Jenson: if you have problems only add one item at a time until that works too |
| 14:41.23 | Jenson | JD: I know how to deal with this shit, I've made this mess so many times |
| 14:41.36 | Jenson | I'm just already depressed and I cant cope with computers stressing me out |
| 14:42.13 | JD | Jenson: I just don't want you to think that you are wasting your time |
| 14:42.15 | JD | when you are not |
| 14:42.15 | BorgBaby | have a cup of tea & forget about it for an hour or two - things will be clearer then |
| 14:42.32 | JD | if you ask me you are learning an awful lot |
| 14:42.34 | skugg | Jenson, then take your time, remember what you did that fucked up things last time, and avoid doing that now. |
| 14:42.37 | skugg | it's called "learning" |
| 14:42.54 | JD | Jenson: the more you play with things the easier they become |
| 14:42.56 | Jenson | skugg: its called learning not to drop the HDD and the RAM on the floor |
| 14:43.19 | JD | HDD won;t like that but memory will be fine |
| 14:43.31 | CockneyScum | HD will survive... |
| 14:43.35 | Jenson | JD: the memory is already fscked |
| 14:43.35 | JD | depends how hard it hit the ground |
| 14:43.35 | skugg | Jenson, see? you're getting there already. |
| 14:43.49 | Jenson | i dropped the memory on the chassis of another PC |
| 14:43.55 | Jenson | maybe i should tidy up |
| 14:44.04 | Jenson | but the HDD was fine 10 mins ago |
| 14:44.25 | CockneyScum | Jenson anything your nt sure about bring along to the next gllug, we can put them in machines in the lab and give em the once over. |
| 14:44.27 | JD | Jenson: see |
| 14:44.30 | JD | hardware is hardy |
| 14:44.49 | JD | CockneyScum: remember she lives in Sudbury and comes by train |
| 14:44.53 | skugg | i've never had a hdd fail, and i've been naughty and hot-plugged them (not advicable) |
| 14:44.59 | Jenson | CockneyScum: I wont be there, aint got anyone to go with and I'll get lost |
| 14:45.03 | CockneyScum | Harddrive and RAM? |
| 14:45.09 | CockneyScum | Not too heavy. |
| 14:45.10 | JD | Jenson: how can you get lost |
| 14:45.20 | CockneyScum | Skugg thats sick.. |
| 14:45.27 | Jenson | JD: on the bit between the underground and the uni lol |
| 14:45.33 | CockneyScum | Did you have shaftesque hair afterwards :) |
| 14:45.37 | JD | CockneyScum: you can do losts of things that are out of spec |
| 14:45.40 | Jenson | skugg: I've killed 4 now I think |
| 14:45.48 | JD | Jenson: it is easy |
| 14:45.57 | skugg | Jenson, then you better start learning quick, before you run out of cash ;) |
| 14:45.58 | CockneyScum | I don't like playing with things that have power... |
| 14:46.01 | JD | come out ot he station turn left then left again |
| 14:46.11 | JD | walk until you hit a wall |
| 14:46.14 | JD | turn right |
| 14:46.19 | JD | walk until you hit the uni |
| 14:46.27 | Jenson | i think ive been to 3 different underground stations near there though |
| 14:46.46 | JD | Jenson: 2 down from euston on northern line |
| 14:46.52 | BorgBaby | www.streetmap.co.uk is your friend... |
| 14:46.53 | JD | warren st? |
| 14:46.57 | JD | or goodge st? |
| 14:47.01 | Jenson | both |
| 14:47.04 | JD | I forget |
| 14:47.15 | JD | it is the southern one |
| 14:47.21 | JD | Jenson: it is easy |
| 14:47.33 | Jenson | JD: I get lost anywhere |
| 14:47.43 | skugg | Jenson, with that attitude you will be. |
| 14:48.02 | JD | Jenson: you have my mobile number call me when you get out of the sation |
| 14:48.26 | Jenson | bllody hell, ive bent half the ide onnector pins |
| 14:48.35 | Jenson | now i gotta sort them too |
| 14:48.36 | *** join/#gllug zachary (~zachary@host217-39-4-12.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 14:48.38 | skugg | walk out of goodge st. tube, turn left. take the second turn left. walk on, you'll walk straight into the westminster campus. |
| 14:48.54 | Jenson | skugg: its alright i probably wont go anyway |
| 14:48.58 | Jenson | i dont see the point |
| 14:49.01 | JD | Jenson: ah go on |
| 14:49.06 | Jenson | i never understand whats going on |
| 14:49.11 | Jenson | and everyone thinks im a slut |
| 14:49.15 | JD | Jenson: just be careful with the pins |
| 14:49.27 | JD | Jenson: that isn;t true |
| 14:49.32 | Jenson | JD: i bend the pins all the time lol |
| 14:49.34 | JD | not everyone thinks you are slut |
| 14:49.56 | Jenson | cept now ive lost the screwdriver i need to fix them with |
| 14:50.16 | CockneyScum | jenson i hate to point this out but most of the people at gllug don't do IRC and wont have the slightest clue who you are... |
| 14:50.30 | skugg | Jenson, what does it matter what people think? |
| 14:50.40 | CockneyScum | Most of us just know people through the mailing list. |
| 14:50.58 | Jenson | ooh there is it |
| 14:51.03 | Jenson | behind the keyboard lol |
| 14:51.04 | CockneyScum | Skugg who are you ? ;) |
| 14:51.10 | skugg | it would be funny to _know_ though; ) |
| 14:51.33 | CockneyScum | Skugg i can probably dig up logs, it'll cost you though ;) |
| 14:51.41 | skugg | CockneyScum, heheh ;) |
| 14:51.52 | skugg | isn't it logged online somewhere by ibot? :) |
| 14:52.06 | CockneyScum | No, we have a special channel just for dissing you ;) |
| 14:52.10 | skugg | if i cared, i might be scanning the logs ;) |
| 14:52.13 | stephen | ibot logs |
| 14:52.13 | | http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 14:52.14 | CockneyScum | Otherwise we get kicked for flooding ;) |
| 14:52.18 | skugg | :P |
| 14:52.22 | skugg | lol! |
| 14:53.13 | CockneyScum | Gllug doesnt show up under the stats page... Maybe we dont have enough traffic ;) |
| 14:54.11 | Jenson | well either the HDD is fscked or the mobo, I dunno |
| 14:54.40 | CockneyScum | If you come along bring the harddrive and well give it a spin. See what it does. |
| 14:55.03 | Jenson | CockneyScum: I'll test it on my other system later |
| 14:55.22 | CockneyScum | Don't do a skugg, unplug em first ;) |
| 14:55.56 | skugg | yep. that's advicable. |
| 14:56.04 | Jenson | lol |
| 14:56.13 | CockneyScum | Reading gllug irc archives is even more boring than posting into them :) |
| 14:56.35 | CockneyScum | I guess he was right, Resistence was futile. |
| 14:56.38 | CockneyScum | hehe |
| 14:56.40 | Jenson | CockneyScum: can be fun, watching ya ex and ya boy/f discuss you |
| 14:56.54 | CockneyScum | My boyfriends not like that :) |
| 14:56.59 | CockneyScum | Ibot erase log |
| 14:56.59 | | wish i knew, CockneyScum |
| 14:57.00 | CockneyScum | hehe |
| 14:57.22 | CockneyScum | Next time i kick the bot before typing... |
| 14:57.46 | *** join/#gllug BorgBaby (seamus@modem-552.clefairy.dialup.pol.co.uk) |
| 14:57.58 | CockneyScum | WB |
| 14:58.06 | BorgBaby | ta ;) |
| 14:59.52 | CockneyScum | From looking at the logs i have to say when i'm not here GLLUG is dull ;) |
| 15:00.02 | Jenson | lol |
| 15:00.29 | CockneyScum | Jenson being naughty discussing relegion and cults in public... |
| 15:00.34 | Jenson | lol |
| 15:00.44 | Jenson | and Leeds |
| 15:00.59 | CockneyScum | And dragging Dungeons and dragons into it! |
| 15:01.19 | CockneyScum | I LIKE Dungeons and dragons |
| 15:01.32 | Jenson | well im glad my ex is having fun installing stuff or something |
| 15:01.38 | JD | CockneyScum: there is no difference between a cult and a religion |
| 15:01.47 | CockneyScum | JD, funding ;) |
| 15:01.48 | JD | except wether you are in it or not |
| 15:01.49 | Jenson | JD: that was my point last night |
| 15:02.01 | JD | and possibly numbers |
| 15:02.15 | CockneyScum | I LIKE Dungeons and dragons |
| 15:02.18 | CockneyScum | hehe |
| 15:02.26 | JD | CockneyScum: ho hum your loss |
| 15:02.45 | CockneyScum | Relegion is a lovely thing people should practise in private. |
| 15:02.52 | CockneyScum | Away from me ;) |
| 15:03.05 | Jenson | grr now i turned the other computer off im cold |
| 15:03.10 | CockneyScum | LOL |
| 15:03.18 | CockneyScum | Its mid summer and your cold? |
| 15:03.24 | Jenson | yeh |
| 15:03.39 | JD | CockneyScum: you atheist? |
| 15:03.45 | BorgBaby | jump up & down |
| 15:03.47 | CockneyScum | Sorta |
| 15:03.53 | skugg | "Microsoft Office XP Professional with FrontPage Setup has completed successfully." yeh feckin' arse-for-brains... I explicitly put "no way in HELL!" on "do you want frontpage installed?" ... |
| 15:03.56 | CockneyScum | Borg she doesn't have a cam, its not worth it ;) |
| 15:04.16 | BorgBaby | who wants to see it ?! |
| 15:04.16 | Jenson | skugg: lol |
| 15:04.22 | JD | CockneyScum: so you are agnostic by deanition |
| 15:04.27 | JD | definition |
| 15:04.33 | CockneyScum | Skugg go to add remove programs and remove that component. |
| 15:05.05 | CockneyScum | I prefer apathy to agnosticism |
| 15:05.10 | skugg | CockneyScum, i don't think it's actually installed... it's just what the popup-box says, I think... |
| 15:05.10 | Jenson | yeh |
| 15:05.41 | CockneyScum | Skugg i'm going to be keeping an eye on your webpage, if it sprouts a "Made with Frontpage" banner your in trouble. |
| 15:06.42 | JD | so you don't know because you ccan't be bothered to think about it |
| 15:06.57 | CockneyScum | Pretty much, i figure when i die i'll find out one way or the other. |
| 15:06.58 | JD | I still say the is agnostic |
| 15:07.14 | skugg | CockneyScum, before that, pigs will fly, hell will freeze over and you'll aquire a liking for ginger blokes. |
| 15:07.18 | JD | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:07.22 | Jenson | oooh fsck, biscuit crumbs all over the mousemat |
| 15:07.32 | CockneyScum | Probably atheist. |
| 15:07.35 | JD | Jenson: pick up mouse mat |
| 15:07.38 | JD | place over bin |
| 15:07.39 | JD | shake |
| 15:07.48 | CockneyScum | Oh looky! http://gllug.linux.co.uk/ircphoto.html |
| 15:07.52 | CockneyScum | hehe |
| 15:08.06 | Jenson | JD: put biscuits on mat, eat biscuits, shake over floor |
| 15:08.12 | CockneyScum | "Skugg proves he can swallow" |
| 15:08.15 | Jenson | CockneyScum: yeh, just discovered that did you? |
| 15:08.32 | skugg | CockneyScum, haha! |
| 15:08.33 | CockneyScum | Yep, this should be informative. |
| 15:08.58 | Jenson | JD, Dan and zimm are the sexiest on there |
| 15:09.03 | Jenson | at least last time i looked |
| 15:09.25 | CockneyScum | I'm just trying to work out who i know and who each nick really is. |
| 15:09.28 | skugg | pffft. |
| 15:09.33 | CockneyScum | Jenson its not a shopping catalogue :) |
| 15:09.39 | skugg | i'm far more sexxay than any of them ;P |
| 15:09.42 | JD | Jenson: just rub my nose in it why don't you |
| 15:09.49 | CockneyScum | "I'll have number six and number five in black" |
| 15:09.52 | BorgBaby | I still have to stick my gorgeous mug up there |
| 15:09.56 | Jenson | LOL |
| 15:10.00 | JD | I dont need to be told |
| 15:10.33 | CockneyScum | JD thas alright Skuggs not picky :) |
| 15:10.40 | Jenson | JD: SEENAS i'VE DATED THE OTHER 2 IN THAT LIST, i'D SAY I HAVE A GOOD SENSE IN MEN |
| 15:10.44 | JD | oh sit |
| 15:10.56 | Jenson | oops |
| 15:10.56 | Jenson | damn capslock |
| 15:10.56 | Jenson | damn lag |
| 15:11.02 | JD | Jenson: shame about your keyboard |
| 15:11.08 | Jenson | I think Alex is using all the bandwidth again |
| 15:11.25 | Jenson | JD: Yeh but I write everything and press enter lojng before it dispalys on the screen |
| 15:11.57 | Jenson | skugg: thats just a brilliant pic of you isnt it honey :P |
| 15:12.14 | skugg | Jenson, yeah. i dig it. |
| 15:12.22 | BorgBaby | you can check what the lag is... (/lag i think...) |
| 15:12.27 | Jenson | :P |
| 15:12.29 | CockneyScum | Skugg is that before or after you escaped :) |
| 15:12.38 | JD | Jenson: I know how you feel |
| 15:12.49 | Jenson | BorgBaby: nah not lag to the irc server, lag to Alex's sever that O'mscreenign from |
| 15:12.55 | CockneyScum | Skugg why no pics of your gf... |
| 15:12.56 | skugg | this is even better :) |
| 15:12.59 | CockneyScum | No fair. |
| 15:12.59 | skugg | http://home.no.net/stigbrau/pics/southparkstig.png |
| 15:13.05 | BorgBaby | ok |
| 15:13.41 | skugg | CockneyScum, she'd murder me ;) |
| 15:14.03 | CockneyScum | LOL gon on, its not like were logged or anything :) |
| 15:14.04 | Jenson | lol nice relationship going down there skugg |
| 15:14.22 | JD | [/15 |
| 15:14.31 | JD | grrr |
| 15:14.52 | CockneyScum | I think i've met about half the people on that page in real life. |
| 15:15.07 | Jenson | CockneyScum: well, you've met me so you must have met zimm |
| 15:15.39 | CockneyScum | He's not fmailiar. |
| 15:15.49 | Jenson | god my lap is covered in chocolate digestive crumbs |
| 15:15.51 | BorgBaby | CockneyScum: not sure if you've met me - do you use another nick? |
| 15:15.55 | CockneyScum | I know tarragon, Spud, skuggg, JD, Leeds, Steeve |
| 15:16.03 | CockneyScum | Nah this and NisoRamen |
| 15:16.16 | Jenson | CockneyScum: zimm, little guy, like the same height as me, gorgeous, blonde hair |
| 15:16.18 | BorgBaby | nah, prob not then |
| 15:16.34 | CockneyScum | Every one whos met me knows it. I'm pretty um... forthright. |
| 15:16.36 | JD | CockneyScum: how do you know me? |
| 15:16.40 | CockneyScum | FOSDEM |
| 15:16.49 | CockneyScum | Same table through two meals and the pub |
| 15:16.50 | JD | er okay |
| 15:16.53 | CockneyScum | LOL |
| 15:16.53 | BorgBaby | best way to be |
| 15:16.57 | JD | now I have to remember who you are |
| 15:17.17 | CockneyScum | The big loud londoner. I take the piss whenever my mouth moves :) |
| 15:17.23 | CockneyScum | You were with Paul i think |
| 15:17.34 | CockneyScum | "Cupis" |
| 15:17.38 | CockneyScum | on that page. |
| 15:17.41 | Jenson | CockneyScum: You must know Leeds, before I met him he said to me 'You won't miss me' lol |
| 15:18.00 | CockneyScum | Yep. Everyone knows Cohen. |
| 15:18.13 | CockneyScum | Maybe two third on the page. |
| 15:18.16 | JD | CockneyScum: yeah, but there were several loud londoners there |
| 15:18.31 | Jenson | I can pass as a loud londoner too |
| 15:18.34 | CockneyScum | LOL my people ;) |
| 15:19.13 | JD | Jenson: no you just pass as a short essex girl |
| 15:19.31 | skugg | JD, CockneyScum was sitting right across the table for you at the meal in brussels... was very dissapointed at his mussels too :) |
| 15:19.33 | BorgBaby | miaow |
| 15:19.38 | CockneyScum | The short in that sentance was unneeded :) |
| 15:19.56 | Jenson | JD: thanks for that vote of condfdence hon |
| 15:20.36 | JD | skugg: so I have just found out |
| 15:20.42 | Jenson | grrr doesd my dad have to make sich a noise with the mower |
| 15:20.46 | JD | CockneyScum: have you seen Jenson? |
| 15:20.57 | CockneyScum | Once. For about thirty seconds. |
| 15:20.58 | JD | you could not descibe her as tall |
| 15:21.01 | CockneyScum | It was enough ;) |
| 15:21.32 | Jenson | CockneyScum: In a good or bad way :P |
| 15:21.33 | CockneyScum | Shall we leave you alone for a good thirty seconds? :) |
| 15:21.39 | Jenson | lol |
| 15:22.35 | CockneyScum | Um... why is formi waering a mouse mat? |
| 15:22.39 | Jenson | CockneyScum: You're either saying he's crap or I'm good, not sure which thgough |
| 15:22.46 | Jenson | lol bevause he's formi |
| 15:23.06 | CockneyScum | he'd look much better in a nice fashionable body bag. |
| 15:24.18 | CockneyScum | Wow conversation killer |
| 15:24.21 | CockneyScum | yah me |
| 15:24.38 | Jenson | heh |
| 15:24.50 | Jenson | yeh he once threatened to kill someone and then denied it lol |
| 15:24.54 | Jenson | he doesnt like me |
| 15:24.59 | BorgBaby | anyone got any idea why a cd that plays fine in cdrom drive refuses to rip two tracks in the same drive ? |
| 15:25.14 | CockneyScum | Well thats puts you on my good side. Not a big formi fan |
| 15:25.17 | Jenson | BorgBaby: coz the ripping process is faster |
| 15:26.12 | JD | BorgBaby: because CD playing is analog |
| 15:26.17 | JD | ripping is digital |
| 15:26.27 | JD | digital is harder to get right |
| 15:26.41 | JD | dig up some of the cdparanoia docs |
| 15:26.49 | BorgBaby | any way to get around it ? (using grip/xcdparanoia) |
| 15:27.17 | BorgBaby | yeah - will take a look - weird tho', not scratched or anything |
| 15:27.19 | JD | cdparanoia should do a good job of ripping |
| 15:27.20 | skugg | huh? cd's have to be read digitally anyway. |
| 15:27.32 | skugg | i don't see why that should be a difference. |
| 15:27.45 | JD | skugg: when you play a CD in a CD drive it is converted to analog in the CD drive |
| 15:27.50 | skugg | not unless it's the ripping software that can't handle it. |
| 15:28.06 | JD | the cable fromteh back to the cd drive to the sound card is analog |
| 15:28.14 | BorgBaby | no, shouldnt be. cdparanoia is pretty good |
| 15:28.15 | skugg | JD, i know how a cd drive work. |
| 15:29.23 | JD | skugg: but then you rip you have to read the actual data off the drive |
| 15:29.32 | JD | just playing it doesn't |
| 15:29.41 | JD | which si why there is a dfiference |
| 15:29.45 | CockneyScum | Borg does dd work? ;) |
| 15:30.10 | BorgBaby | dd as in how? |
| 15:30.31 | CockneyScum | dd the whole disk image. not sure how good an idea it is but it might let you see if its scratched. |
| 15:30.46 | BorgBaby | will try, 1 sec... |
| 15:30.56 | skugg | JD, you mean the ripping software's fault-tolerance is inferior to the cd's internal one. |
| 15:31.05 | skugg | that I can dig. |
| 15:31.24 | skugg | s,cd,cd drive, |
| 15:31.41 | JD | skugg: read the cdparanoia docs |
| 15:31.45 | JD | they explain everything |
| 15:32.31 | skugg | JD, i can't be arsed. |
| 15:32.50 | CockneyScum | Docs? I remember those... they come in book form with animals on the cover... |
| 15:33.13 | Jenson | lol |
| 15:33.22 | JD | CockneyScum: not always |
| 15:33.44 | CockneyScum | Really? WOW ;) |
| 15:33.52 | BorgBaby | may be doing this wrong - dd if=/dev/hdc of=test.wav ? |
| 15:34.01 | CockneyScum | There can't be other publishers... |
| 15:34.43 | CockneyScum | that looks about right, i'm trying to remember have to do it as an iso so you can mount it with loopback. |
| 15:35.20 | BorgBaby | trying just one track with cdparanoia, but getting V's - that's probably the problem |
| 15:35.26 | JD | http://www.xiph.org/paranoia/faq.html#play |
| 15:35.53 | CockneyScum | http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/CDServer-HOWTO/procedure.html#createimage that covers iso... thats half right |
| 15:37.39 | CockneyScum | JD: Interesting page |
| 15:37.41 | skugg | BorgBaby, use cdparanoia. it reads most things in my experience. i use "jack" by the way... it's good. |
| 15:37.54 | skugg | never tried grip though. |
| 15:38.39 | BorgBaby | i use jack on this pc (debian), but grip on the mandrake box hooked up to the stereo. jack is good - but both use cdparanoia anyway |
| 15:39.56 | Jenson | I'm gonna go for a bit, been sitting here too long |
| 15:39.59 | Jenson | Seeya later guys |
| 15:40.03 | CockneyScum | Laters |
| 15:40.07 | BorgBaby | see you Jenson |
| 15:40.08 | skugg | BorgBaby, okie. |
| 15:40.10 | Jenson | cya CockneyScum |
| 15:40.14 | Jenson | cya BorgBaby |
| 15:40.18 | zachary | brb |
| 15:40.23 | BorgBaby | have fun |
| 15:40.35 | skugg | BorgBaby, then try washing the cd. use washing-up liquid and a *clean* cloth. |
| 15:40.42 | skugg | and _lots_ of water. |
| 15:41.02 | skugg | no circles, but strokes from the center and out toward the edge. |
| 15:41.12 | NisoRamen | Skugg now your scaring me... |
| 15:41.13 | BorgBaby | washing up liquid?? |
| 15:45.51 | JD | NisoRamen: wny? |
| 15:45.54 | JD | sensible advice |
| 15:46.10 | NisoRamen | Bad mental image ;) |
| 15:46.30 | BorgBaby | very odd. cdparanoia v.9.8 in both pc's - tried it on here & it worked, no +'s or V's, clean copy... |
| 15:46.52 | NisoRamen | Diskdrive problems? Is one a lot faster than the other? |
| 15:47.13 | BorgBaby | actually yeah, this one is newer & a writer |
| 15:47.30 | JD | it is mostly the drive that causes the problmes |
| 15:47.39 | NisoRamen | It works in the writer? |
| 15:47.45 | BorgBaby | perfectly |
| 15:48.09 | BorgBaby | oh well, problem solved ;) |
| 15:48.19 | NisoRamen | I've had that with cut cdr's before but never pressed disks. |
| 15:48.57 | BorgBaby | the other drive won't read cd-rw's, it is pretty old, but this was a normal cd |
| 15:49.41 | NisoRamen | Maybe its just a bit dirty? |
| 15:50.23 | BorgBaby | gave it a quick wipe, that probably helped ;) |
| 15:53.05 | skugg | BorgBaby, probably just the tuning of the reading head that is a bit off in the old one. it happens. |
| 15:53.22 | skugg | it's a pain in teh arse to adjust (and you can't do it without proper tools) but it's possible. |
| 15:53.36 | skugg | pretty standard procedure. |
| 15:54.12 | BorgBaby | easier to stick a newer drive in there, got a couple floating around |
| 15:55.28 | skugg | BorgBaby, yeah. dunno how adjusting cdrom drives is actually... i've only done music cd ones. |
| 15:57.23 | BorgBaby | sounds too fiddly! ;) lasers are a bit delicate... |
| 15:59.08 | NisoRamen | Payt the tenner and get a new drive :) |
| 15:59.20 | NisoRamen | What speed are they supposed to be these days? 52? |
| 16:00.55 | BorgBaby | i think so. above 60 & they combust, don't they? |
| 16:01.07 | NisoRamen | LOL In that case i want three! |
| 16:02.17 | BorgBaby | there was a thing a while back where XP disks were combusting in the drives! LOL - would have like to have watched... |
| 16:03.46 | JD | http://keyserver.kjsl.com/~jharris/ka/2003-06-15/top1000table.html |
| 16:04.34 | NisoRamen | Theodore Ts'o comes up twice... |
| 16:05.03 | NisoRamen | What exactly does this rank? |
| 16:05.11 | JD | several do |
| 16:05.12 | JD | they have several keys |
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| 16:14.21 | Clyphox | Hi all |
| 16:15.18 | JD | hi Clyphox |
| 16:15.27 | Clyphox | :-) |
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| 16:18.46 | skugg | i've got it installed, but i could hardly care less about it. |
| 16:20.10 | JD | skugg: you should |
| 16:20.27 | JD | how would I know that you are the person sending me an email |
| 16:21.49 | skugg | for personal stuff, yes. for mailing lists. fuck no. |
| 16:22.25 | skugg | i'm not a very secretive guy |
| 16:24.02 | BorgBaby | no, I'm not either |
| 16:25.17 | JD | skugg: who said anything about secrecy |
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| 16:26.37 | skugg | JD, it was largely unrelated, but on a tangent. |
| 16:29.44 | JD | skugg: I thik I have encrypted about 3 emails in my life |
| 16:38.15 | JD | hmmm imdb.com allows you to search my regex :) |
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| 18:11.28 | Leeds | hello 2-dimensional people |
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| 18:12.52 | zachary | Hi Leeds |
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| 19:03.21 | gregj | Leeds: and how are 3d people ? |
| 19:03.45 | Leeds | um... deep :-) |
| 19:04.33 | gregj | ? |
| 19:04.42 | Leeds | well, height+width... |
| 19:04.45 | Leeds | +depth |
| 19:04.49 | gregj | ;) |
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| 19:45.38 | Xiaoqi | hola |
| 19:45.49 | Leeds | shalom |
| 19:46.41 | Leeds | ma shlomech? |
| 19:46.51 | Xiaoqi | ?? |
| 19:46.53 | Xiaoqi | sorry Leeds |
| 19:47.26 | Leeds | at lo m'dbrecha ivrit? |
| 19:48.23 | Leeds | don't you speak Hebrew? |
| 19:48.37 | Xiaoqi | no, I'm sorry |
| 19:48.52 | Leeds | ah well |
| 19:48.58 | Leeds | how's things? |
| 19:49.06 | Leeds | (I expect you understand shalom, right?) |
| 19:49.27 | Xiaoqi | hello |
| 19:49.28 | Xiaoqi | i think |
| 19:49.44 | Leeds | hello, goodbye, peace... |
| 19:49.53 | Xiaoqi | cool |
| 19:50.40 | Leeds | l'hitraot is also goodbye - literally means "to seeing each other" |
| 19:54.52 | Xiaoqi | cool |
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| 20:48.05 | Leeds | hey cupis |
| 20:48.16 | cupis | hi Leeds |
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| 21:02.51 | JD | hi ak |
| 21:02.55 | JD | all |
| 21:02.58 | JD | argh |
| 21:03.01 | Leeds | evening JD |
| 21:03.14 | JD | hi Leeds |
| 21:03.30 | JD | nothing else to watch |
| 21:03.52 | JD | well there is mission impossible but I have seen that at least twice |
| 21:04.03 | Leeds | anything on on F4(W)? |
| 21:04.13 | JD | was sleepy hollow |
| 21:04.27 | JD | but now long good Friday(?) |
| 21:04.41 | JD | so I'm going the PPV thing |
| 21:04.46 | Leeds | hmm... |
| 21:04.51 | JD | doing |
| 21:05.04 | Leeds | I tend not to do PPV... only did it once for Being John Malkovitch |
| 21:05.15 | JD | good film |
| 21:05.19 | JD | I live at home |
| 21:05.29 | JD | have nothing to do |
| 21:05.36 | Leeds | you live at home? |
| 21:05.38 | JD | wouldn;t normally |
| 21:05.47 | JD | er yeah |
| 21:05.52 | JD | I live with my parents even |
| 21:05.56 | Leeds | ah, that |
| 21:06.09 | Leeds | not done that (permanently) for 9(!) years now |
| 21:06.19 | Leeds | 6 of them fully away |
| 21:06.47 | JD | well I would move but I really can't afford a house |
| 21:06.56 | JD | and I don't fancy renting |
| 21:07.22 | Leeds | rented for a couple of years... then bought a place |
| 21:07.52 | JD | maybe I will in a bit |
| 21:08.06 | JD | but I was hoping house prices would come down a lot first |
| 21:15.08 | JD | and I do mean a lot |
| 21:15.37 | Leeds | hmm... remind me how much |
| 21:15.43 | JD | not much |
| 21:15.55 | JD | but I only left school 6 years ago |
| 21:15.59 | Leeds | I bought my place 3 years ago |
| 21:55.27 | JD | anyone here? |
| 21:56.08 | cupis | JD: no |
| 21:56.23 | JD | thank god |
| 21:56.28 | JD | #I was getting worried |
| 21:56.51 | JD | it is quite scary for a 15 |
| 21:57.15 | cupis | resident evil? hmm, iirc it was pretty crap |
| 21:57.37 | cupis | racoon city, red queen, etc, right? |
| 21:58.54 | JD | that the one |
| 21:59.19 | skugg | JD, heh. yeah. |
| 22:00.01 | skugg | i dunno why the fuck I at all saw that... it's one of those films i don't like watching ;P |
| 22:00.11 | skugg | well, a _type_ of film... |
| 22:00.24 | skugg | the film wasn't really bad, but not spectactual either |
| 22:01.41 | JD | well there was nothing else on |
| 22:08.46 | JD | Leeds: how is the battleshipos? |
| 22:08.58 | Leeds | coming along, ish |
| 22:09.12 | JD | why is my internet so slow |
| 22:14.30 | Leeds | no idea |
| 22:19.44 | stephen | this whole computer is getting slow, perhaps its time for a less CPU hungry window manager |
| 22:21.04 | Leeds | KDE? |
| 22:21.06 | Leeds | GNOME? |
| 22:21.08 | Leeds | E? |
| 22:21.11 | stephen | E |
| 22:21.57 | Leeds | ah, well |
| 22:22.15 | stephen | yer, perhaps a *box window manager would go a reasonable way to speeding this thing up |
| 22:24.52 | skugg | . . o O ( openbox ) |
| 22:34.01 | JD | wmaker |
| 22:34.10 | JD | well it wasn;t that bad |
| 22:34.21 | JD | I guess it was meant to lead up to the games |
| 22:34.26 | JD | I haven;t played any of them |
| 22:34.39 | JD | didn;t they bring out a resident evil 0 recently? |
