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05:51.48zacharymoin
06:16.38new2unixmoin zachary.
06:16.57new2unixgetting ready for work here. Have you seen Spud?
06:18.35new2unixIve got 4spare tickets to the "House of Milton Jones" showing tomorrow at theDrill Hall theatre off tottenham Court road. Its for tomorrow at 7:30pm
06:19.45new2unixAnyone interested? The site is at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/whatson/tickets/howto_dh.shtml
06:20.08zacharynew2unix: Last time I saw him was last night. I can pass it along to him if you want me to.
06:20.26new2unixthat would be great. Cheers.
06:21.29new2unixI've been trying to get hold of him since early yesterday. I know he's going but i cant unfortunately and it would be a shame for the tickets to go unused cos its such a good show. Loads of laughs :)
06:26.05zacharyI've emailed him.
06:26.23new2unixcheers.
06:26.33zacharynp
06:40.44davilionmorning all
06:47.34new2unixallo David
06:47.43new2unixam of. now. bye all.
08:16.35JDhi all
08:27.08zacharymoin JD
09:47.31dankolb'lo
09:50.48murburgle
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10:10.45nasratmorning all
10:17.16dankolbhi
10:17.59nasrathi dankolb - how's it going?
10:19.19dankolbIt's okay. I still need a job.
10:29.19murbdankolb: havn't you  been on holiday avoid job hunting?
10:29.23murbing
10:32.35dankolbYes.
10:33.09gregjhi
10:36.02nasrathi gregj
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11:24.44formihello
11:24.58formianybody willing to help?
11:26.09formiadsl + nat + fixed ip + server kind of question
11:28.38dankolbJa?
11:29.10murbit depends.
11:29.18formibasically, office using nat of the "efficient networks" adsl modem/router
11:29.52forminow they have been given 5 fixed ips, and i would like a freebsd box to get one
11:30.15formii have looked through the web interface to the modem
11:30.50formiand there is nothing about "not natting a machine", there is some option to do port forwarding but
11:30.59formii have had no luck with it
11:33.15dankolbUrm...I think you'd need a different modem in that case?
11:34.03formiive been told the bloody thing is "top of the range"
11:34.14Xiaoqihihi
11:34.33dankolbIs there something in the manual?
11:34.49forminot really
11:34.51nasratsystem addhostmapping from the telnet interface
11:35.53nasrathttp://kb.efficient.com/al/273/207/10364.html
11:36.13murbIs this survice purchased from bt?
11:37.02formiit ask for 1st pricate address 2nd private 1st public
11:37.14formimurb; pipex
11:37.45nasratis it a managed router?
11:37.47murbformi: is this an "engineer" installed job?
11:38.00murbnasrat: it sounds like it.
11:38.27nasratmurb: yeah
11:38.36nasratformi: do you have telnet access to it/
11:38.38forminope
11:38.51forminasrat: yes I do have telnet
11:39.09nasratsee my link to the kb, which has the appropriate lines to add
11:39.36forminasrat: im having problems getting to that website
11:39.53nasratessentially telnet in, system addhostmapping bsdip bsdip publicip
11:40.18nasratthe bsdip is twice as you can map a range of machines and give a starting public ip address
11:40.20formii am confused about the 2 first addresses
11:41.17formiie system addhostmapping 192.168.1.21 192.168.1.21 external fixed ip
11:41.24Jensonheya all
11:41.46nasratso you could say I want 172.17.0.13 172.16.0.15 mapped starting from 69.0.0.130, meaning 13=130, 14=131, 15=132
11:42.11nasrat(note 172.16.0.15 s/16/17/)
11:42.37nasratformi yes you do exactly what you just typed
11:43.01formibut now another question
11:43.50formiwe have 5 fixed ips, the modem is just using a single one, i suppose is not being used as the router for the whole subnet
11:44.40formiif I configure the modem to act as the router for the whole subnet, will the previous example work?
11:45.05nasratI imagine the hostmapping will bind the other addresses.  So yes it will act in effect as the public net only exists on the adsl interface
11:45.33nasratHowever I've never used this product so YMMV
11:46.30formiok thanks, i'll start testing now
11:47.52nasratformi: remember you could trash your net connection so backup configs, etc
11:48.31formiit works
11:49.00nasratformi: my secondly rate is measured in beer :)
11:50.09formii wished i would get at least beer for this one
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11:52.23Jensonre murb
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12:50.33zacharybbl, few hours
12:51.01gregj;)
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13:56.56jason_ukfsnafternoon all
13:57.34murblealready?
13:58.28nasratjason_ukfsn: how come?
13:59.45jason_ukfsnjust received notification that for the rest of the month adsl activation is half price.
14:00.18murblejason_ukfsn: does't that mean you'll have no more people signing up this month?
14:01.06jason_ukfsn?? I hope it means more people will want to sign up as UKFSN is now able to offer the service for less.
14:01.41murblejason_ukfsn: but it would be just typical if they didn't.
14:02.10murbleand people who have adsl already arn't likly to move due to the hastle moving causes.
14:02.19jason_ukfsnI know. I'll have to wait and see what happens.
14:04.23jason_ukfsnIs everyone planning on attending the saturday meeting?
14:04.42murblei didn't realise there was one?
14:05.09nasratjason_ukfsn: I have to be there :)
14:05.12JensonI am
14:05.15murblejason_ukfsn: are you nominet agming?
14:05.17nasratmurble: /topic
14:05.18JensonWell the pub part at least
14:05.26JensonYeh nasrat good luck with the talk
14:05.27murblenasrat: yeah i know now
14:06.19murbleI don't think i can really be bothered.
14:06.23murbletoomuch london
14:06.44dankolbButbut....pub...
14:07.03Jensondankolb: its alright, you cvan have me in the pub
14:07.07Jensonoooh that came out wrong
14:07.08Jensonlol
14:07.36murbletoomuch london in my lungs
14:08.07Jensontoo much of this place more like
14:15.12Jensonseeya gregj
14:15.33jason_ukfsnmurble: no I wont be going this year - don't have the money for it.
14:16.19Jensonoh well
14:16.22Jensoni gotta go
14:16.23Jensonseeya
14:34.11murblewhy?
14:35.21jason_ukfsnI just deleted the registration script I was working on for UKFSN's adsl offering. I wanted to grep it for something and forgot to quote the > character with the obvious results
14:35.51jason_ukfsnThe backup I have of the script is two days old and I did a lot of work on it yesterday which I now have to redo.
14:35.57jason_ukfsnThanks JD.
14:36.14JDI hate doing stuff like rm -rf ~/foo/ *
14:36.30JDesp when you are in ~
14:36.37JDI did that at uni once
14:36.41JDthank god for backups
14:36.49jason_ukfsnouch. I did something similar to that recently - !sudo
14:37.13jason_ukfsnI forgot that the last command I ran through sudo was to rm -rf .
14:37.40jason_ukfsnNeedless to say I was in an important directory when I did this. Fortunately it was not on a production box and I had backups.
14:37.55JDwhich is why I only ever run ! except !scr
14:50.35JDI had a spam with the subject of "reverse your age; look 20 years younger2
14:50.47JDsome how I don't think I want to look 4
14:51.26murbleexactly 4?
14:51.54jason_ukfsnHmm, I could be 13 again. No thanks!
14:52.07JD4 years, 2 months and 13 days
14:52.15JD1 hour and 32 minutes
14:52.19JDif you must know
14:54.17murbleno thanks.
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15:21.35ClyphoxGod.. Nikki wants me to apply for a job at PC World!
15:21.43ClyphoxHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!
15:22.24TarragonThey sell real computers with Windows. And so many people run Windows someone could always help you.
15:23.41TarragonThey are a big company who have been around a while so they must know what they are doing. And with luck you could end up running the Epson Ink section
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15:28.34nasrateye69: 6bone?
15:30.15Xiaoqihallo
15:31.03eye69nasrat: Yeah. Closest one to this server.
15:31.04eye69www.ipv6.sics.se
15:31.50eye69Only swedish broker that I've seen.
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16:20.59nasratjason_ukfsn: redone script?
16:25.54cupohh home time.
16:26.16Clyphoxhome=good
16:27.03cupindeed
16:28.44jason_ukfsnnasrat: yes I have managed to recreate most of it. Now I just have to rewrite the "interesting" bit which I'll leave until tomorrow.
16:29.18jason_ukfsnI am taking a couple of hours now to bring my son to his jujitsu class (grading tests tonight).
16:32.54cupjujitsu I do that :)
16:33.29murbleyou violent lot
16:35.23jason_ukfsnI'm not violent - my son is (or rather would be if it were not for the fact that 7 year olds don't do much more than playing)
16:39.27JDClyphox_afk: think of it as a stepping stone to Dixons Computer section
16:40.10Clyphox_afkheh..
16:40.28Clyphox_afkI would rather do a frontal labotimy on myself with a spoon
16:41.15JDisn;t that the same thing?
16:41.37Clyphox_afkthats it.. gtg now.. bye
16:49.39JDnight all
16:49.43JDmaybe see you latter
16:49.47JDlater
16:50.19JDdamn why was I born with thet fantastic good looks, but the inability to spell?
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20:14.33JDhi
20:15.01dankolbHi
20:16.39JDhow are you?
20:16.46*** join/#gllug sash (voidzero@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG)
20:17.17dankolbI'm okay
20:17.29sashHello, are you sure?
20:17.44JDempolyed?
20:18.03dankolbNope
20:18.20JDstill loooking?
20:18.31JDfancy working in a private girls school?
20:20.44JDdammit dankolb I was talking to you
20:22.04zacharyevening sash
20:22.30sashHello zachary
20:22.44sashHow's the new kid?
20:22.53dankolbAs a sysadmin?
20:23.01JDyep
20:23.08dankolbYeah, I'm still looking. Sure, I'd consider it.
20:23.09sashIs he walking yet?
20:23.09JDlooking for linux and samba
20:23.11zacharydankolb: Debian Sucks!
20:23.14JDpreferably redhat
20:23.31sashzachary: s/Debian/Slackware/g
20:23.34dankolbzachary: I know.
20:23.34JDzachary: watch it
20:23.35dankolb:)
20:23.40dankolbJD: Sure, I know RedHat.
20:23.45zacharysash:  not born yet.
20:24.08JDdankolb: one issue is that it is in Bedfor
20:24.11JDd
20:24.26dankolbOkay...
20:25.22JDand it does mean tha tyou are surrounded by stuck up girls aged 7 to 18
20:25.50dankolbI'm sure I can cope.
20:26.01JDand I spoke to my ex-gf who works for their sister girls school
20:26.11*** join/#gllug sash` (sash@adsl-64-109-48-187.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net)
20:26.14sash`hi
20:26.25JDand only a few years ago they didn;t think that computers and the internet were going to play that much of a role in schools
20:26.40dankolbHeh
20:26.47JDso they may not be particularly up to date with modern technology
20:26.53sashzachary: Kids take their time :)
20:27.00sashHello sash`
20:27.03JDthe other school on the otherhand is really hi tech
20:27.04sash`Hi sash :)
20:27.21dankolbEven better. I like old tech :)
20:27.22sash`I wondered if you were every really here, sash ;)
20:28.30sashsash`: People often wonder whether I'm ever really here.
20:29.04sash`Since you're real, I'll be changing nicks but it's nice to meet you
20:29.32sash`some of the nicks on this network haven't been used for months so I didn't know if yours was ever really used or not
20:31.20sash`ouch
20:31.38sashTake that, you oaf! :)
20:32.33sashWhisp: I'm off.
20:32.52Whispg'night sash
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20:34.39JDhttp://www.dahs.co.uk/home.html
20:34.49sashDame Alice girls!
20:35.30JDsash: thats the one
20:35.45JDby-word for tart round these parts
20:35.59JDwell high school girls are worse
20:36.05JDbut not much
20:36.07dankolb:)
20:36.24sashJD: Around _these_ parts we have another word for tart, ahem.
20:36.27dankolbJD: How far is Bedford to drive from HW?
20:37.10sashActually I'm being unfair as I don't really know all the ins and outs, so to speak.
20:38.52JDdankolb: I would say 1h - 1h30m
20:39.20dankolb*nod*
20:39.30JDmy ex is an old DAHS girl
20:39.32Jensonheya dankolb
20:39.34Jensonheya JD
20:39.36Jensonheya sash
20:39.45sashHello.
20:41.07JensonGirls school
20:41.08JensonBah
20:41.14Jensonenough to make ya grow up gay if ya ask me
20:42.00JDJenson: no, just a tar
20:42.04JDt
20:42.41JensonJD: that would be why I'm not a tart, just a slut, I avoided girls mostly at school
20:43.02JDmother is moaning that I don't have any travel insurance
20:43.21JDmy camera is coming tomorrow :)
20:43.43JensonJD: ignore mothers
20:44.06Xiaoqi|dyeingmorning all
20:44.08JDthak god for that
20:44.16JDyou had me worried
20:45.07Xiaoqi|dyeingJD: sorry
20:45.15Xiaoqi|dyeingi am dyeing my hair again
20:45.31JDYour order is being prepared:
20:45.34JD<PROTECTED>
20:45.47JDI ordered today at about 11:00
20:45.51Xiaoqi|dyeingcool
20:45.57JDmuch better than from our normal suppliers
20:46.05JDwe order 27th June
20:46.14JDtold it would be in stock 1st July
20:46.19JDand then 7t July
20:46.26JDand now they don't know when
20:46.34JDso we told them to stick it up their arse
20:46.52JDI ended up paying 28GBP more for it
20:46.57JDbut I can get it tomorrow
20:47.24Xiaoqi|dyeinghehe
20:47.29Xiaoqi|dyeingquick is better
20:47.30JDSmile phoned me up at about 11:20 to say did you order from a webste today?
20:47.34Xiaoqi|dyeingwith some things ;)
20:47.42Xiaoqi|dyeinghehe
20:48.17JDmakes you feel that you are with a good bank doesn;t it
20:48.28new2unixfunny that. Citibank phoned me up asking if i withdrew ?500.00 from my account at 11:15pm sometime last week.
20:48.29JDI don't want to do that
20:48.39dankolbJD: So are there application forms available?
20:48.41JDdid you?
20:48.48Xiaoqi|dyeingdankolb: hiya!
20:48.50dankolbHi
20:48.54Xiaoqi|dyeing:)
20:48.56JDdankolb: sorry I don't have the advert around
20:49.02JDwell I might
20:49.06JDI'll have a look for you
20:49.09dankolbThanks :)
20:49.17JDdankolb: I would give them a ring and ask to speak to the bursar
20:49.30dankolbA phone number would be useful then :)
20:49.42new2unixyeah. i needed cash to buy a monthly bus pass so i withdrew some money. dunno why i withdrew that much. its all gone now. :(
20:49.43JDwww.dahs.co.uk
20:49.55JDnew2unix: not good
20:50.14new2unixhi dankolb, Xiaoqi|dyeing, JD, Jenson and all others live on tonite
20:50.23Xiaoqi|dyeinghiya new2unix
20:50.30Jensonnew2unix: and you didnt spend any on me....should have brought it all to Camden and spent it on me
20:50.33Jensonniot sure why
20:50.34Jensoncoz im me i suppose
20:51.13new2unixit was all gone by Saturday or Sunday whichever day that was. only had 75 quid left in my account that day. hah
20:53.10new2unixanyways... was quite startled to get a call from my bank. didnt know bigbrothers, fraud detection were that alert.
20:53.46Xiaoqi|dyeinghm...
20:55.28JensonGuys, you know ADSL....do you have to pay the monthly charge at the same time as you by your modem and activate it?
20:55.37Jensonrr that didnt make sense
20:55.40Jensonyou know what i mean
20:55.59new2unixJenson: it depends on the package you buy.
20:56.09Jensonnew2unix: zen home
20:56.32new2unixthey are seperate. you are free to buy your hardware from anywhere
20:56.41Jensoni know
20:57.01Jensoni want an ethernet modem, but i cant network, so i guess i'd be confined to usb and windows
20:57.51JDJenson: it is normally easy
20:57.51JDI would go for an ethernet device
20:57.59JDthey will be sooooo much easier to deal with
20:58.06new2unixethernet isnt as complicated as it may initially sound. infact i'd say its way much hassle free than usb
20:58.15JensonJD: yeh but i cant afford it
20:58.32JDJenson: I doubt there is any differnce in price
20:58.44JDinfact you'll probably find most come with both these days
20:59.01Jensoni got paid today, if i order ADSL i cant afford anything til the 20th
20:59.09dankolbThere's a lot of price difference between USB and Ethernet
20:59.21Jensonexcatly
20:59.22dankolbThe cheapest e'net modems I saw were about £80-90
20:59.26dankolbThe cheapest USB were about £35
20:59.56Jensonand WTF is a router...i thought i knew, but i guess i dontr
21:00.45dankolbA device to route network packets
21:01.12JensonI'm tired
21:01.16zacharyI'm off to bed, good night.
21:01.24JensonI refuse to cry coz I'm confused about ADSL
21:01.36JDibot: ping
21:01.37i haven't a clue, JD
21:01.37Jensonand I'm not getting a better fucking job to pay for it
21:01.49JDcrappy bot
21:01.53JDbrb
21:02.05dankolbibot ping
21:02.05i don't know, dankolb
21:02.11dankolbHm. You could before
21:02.15Jensonyeh
21:02.20Jensonhe;s forgotten insukt i think too
21:02.23Jensonerm insult
21:02.29dankolbibot insult Jenson
21:02.30dankolb: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ?
21:02.36dankolbibot lart Jenson
21:02.46Jensonibot bitchslap dankolb
21:02.48ACTION beats the sh*t out of dankolb
21:14.08JDso it isn;t just me then
21:14.21JDibot: seen Xiaoqi|dyeing
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21:15.12Jensonibot seem Jenson
21:15.13Jenson: no idea
21:15.22Jensonibot seen Jenson
21:15.22Jenson: i haven't seen 'jenson '
21:15.54Jensonfscking pcworld site
21:16.24JDJenson: don't buy from PCWorld
21:16.33Jensoni wanst
21:16.39Jensoni was merely trying to look
21:16.51Jensonbut as i CBA to reboot to use IE to display  there site right
21:16.52JensonI wont
21:17.24JDdo people think I should buy annul travel insurance at 47.13 or just for the 9 days at 13.75?
21:17.43JensonJD: are you planning to go anywhere else this year
21:17.47Jensonwhen are you going BTW>
21:18.14JDI'm going to Oslo 12th-20th
21:18.27JDI intend to go to FOSDEM again
21:18.34JDcos it was frankly sooo much fun
21:18.45JensonBloody hell, BTinternets today's news'Britney is not a virgin' lol
21:18.58JDwell duh
21:19.19Jensonlol
21:19.27Jensonand she says she's only slept with one person once
21:19.41Jensonmaybe i should try the innocent virgin staus symobol thing
21:20.38JDI think a dictionary would be a good start
21:20.47JDhey kettel, your black
21:21.06JDkettle and you're
21:22.27JensonSame modem thats £88 on zen is £68.99 on Amazon
21:22.48JDexactly
21:22.50JDshop around
21:23.09JDdo people expect me to go anywhere else in the next year?
21:23.15JensonDoesnt look the best of modems from the reviews though
21:23.21JensonJD: you can come live with me lol
21:23.31Jensonor better still I'll comr takeover your bed and your laptop lol
21:23.31JDJenson: why would I do that?
21:23.35JDI have somewhere to live
21:23.37JensonJD: because Im me?
21:23.44JD<PROTECTED>
21:24.01gregjre
21:24.01JDwhy would I come and live ith your parents when I have my own t odeal with?
21:24.11JensonJD: we could swap
21:24.18JensonI have your job and your laptop
21:24.22Jensonand you have my ujob and my PC
21:24.39JDer can I keep my desktop?
21:24.43Jensonyeh
21:25.32Jensongreat, I get you and your laptop
21:25.34JensonFun!
21:25.57JDer no
21:26.02JensonAnyway I should go sleep
21:26.04JensonSeeya later
21:26.11JDyou would be requiered to pay for my laptop
21:26.21JDsounds like a good idea
21:26.37JensonJD: pay, do i have options of mwethod of currency...
21:26.59JDGBP
21:27.21Jensonbah
21:27.27Jensonsleep time
21:27.29Jensonseeya!
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21:34.14stephanbyo
21:34.33dankolbhi
21:34.56stephanbdankolb: hi there, we haven't had the pleasure to meet
21:35.17stephanbyet
21:35.34dankolbNope. You coming on Saturday?
21:35.44JDdankolb: throughly nice bloke
21:35.55stephanbdankolb: i intend to
21:36.13stephanbbut i won't be there from the beginning
21:36.13dankolbJD: Yes, I know I am :)
21:36.38stephanbcoz' taichi training on saturday morning
21:36.45JDdankolb: not you
21:36.54stephanbJD: hi jaydee
21:37.13JDhi stephEn :)
21:38.10stephanbJD: how are ya ?
21:38.24JDstephanb: cool
21:38.29JDlooking for travel insurance
21:38.58stephanbdid you try lloyds tsb ?
21:39.19JDtried norwich union
21:39.22JDbarcleys
21:39.28JDand someone else
21:40.08JDthe best I have seen so far is 12.50GBP
21:41.06stephanbone trip, no backpacking
21:41.55JDyep
21:44.01stephanbseems like a good price
21:44.09stephanbwhere are you going 2 ?
21:44.23JDhttp://www.onlineinsurancespecialists.com/best_prices.asp
21:44.31JDfantastic website
21:44.41JDyou can pick your date using a calander
21:44.55JDyou click on the start date and the on the end date
21:44.59JDit just works
21:45.24stephanbwell... it's like saying that a disaster recovery cd works...
21:45.39stephanbyou haven't gone to thailand and got run over by a bus
21:45.45stephanbto test the insurance works
21:46.50JDhow do you know I didn;t get run over by a bus?
21:47.02stephanboh you did...
21:47.10stephanbin another life.
21:47.23JDI have been to thailand
21:47.41JDwhich is how I knew that guys tshirt was written in thai
21:47.55JDlike he said everyone that has been knows it
21:48.34stephanbexcept Jen
21:49.34JDJenhasn't been to thailand afaik
21:51.22stephanbshe tried though
21:51.28stephanbshe went as far as ...
21:51.34stephanbEast Grinstead
21:51.57stephanbdankolb: are you coming on saturday ?
21:52.03dankolbI should be, yes.
21:52.21JDhttp://www.onlineinsurancespecialists.com/freqently_asked_questions.htm
21:52.39JDflood ish
21:53.08JDassuming I can work out that windows cut'n'paste doesn;t work te same way that linux does
21:53.29JDffs
21:53.49JDYou do not have to be married (or indeed of differing sexes).
21:54.00JDas part of the answer to "what is a couple"
21:54.15stephanbJD: indeed, the 3-nd mouse button has no effect
21:54.17JDI'm getting a good vibe form this company
21:54.31JDyou can choose form 4 underwritters
21:54.52stephanbJD: a company that insures gay clergy is always a good sign
21:55.18stephanbJD: i think this priest should sue the CofE for discrimination
21:56.47JDoh of course
21:56.58JDbut if you ask me it will just drive people away
21:57.33stephanboh, C of E are just doing all the wrong PR moves
21:59.09stephanbthis one is quite bad
21:59.23stephanbyou shall write an essay in less than 2000 words
21:59.40stephanbof the sexed up irak dossier by Alistair Campbell
21:59.54JDI have more important essays to write in the next month
21:59.57stephanband the pressure to prevent a gay priest to become bishop of Reading
22:00.17stephanbwhich of the two is the worst PR practice ?
22:00.33JDlike evaulting the traditionalist view of globalisation
22:00.49JDevaluating
22:01.49stephanbanswer to the essay is very simple :
22:02.08stephanb"bring back monica lewinsky" (a US bumper sticker)
22:05.39JDI'm reading a book at the moment called moralities
22:05.50JDand it includes a chapter about bill clinton
22:06.07JDand about how he is pretty much a serial womaniser
22:06.32JDand how he always comes off better then the women
22:07.06JDlike he tries to portray them as
22:07.14JDmad or what ever
22:07.28JDmonica was described as a stalker
22:08.50JDshit some site wants 35GBP to insure my camera
22:09.51JDI want someone to insure about 500GBP worth of personal possessions
22:10.03JDI donlt need home contents insurance
22:10.08murbleJD: how much is your camera worth?
22:10.16JDone camera and on CD player
22:10.24JDcamera is 350 retail
22:10.38murbleso they want 10pc
22:10.39JDI will be paying 268 from a website
22:10.48JDyeah
22:10.49murbleoh so it is even worse.
22:10.53stephanbok i'm off
22:10.57stephanbbye everybody !
22:11.01JDI told tem 350
22:11.03*** part/#gllug stephanb (~frog@dsl-80-46-223-23.access.uk.tiscali.com)
22:18.03JDdo you know anyone willing to quote just for my possesions even though my parents have home contents insurance
22:30.42JDright bed
22:30.58Xiaoqi|dyeingsorry
22:31.05Xiaoqi|dyeingi had to wash the gunk off my hair
22:48.27dankolb'night all
22:49.59gregjdankolb: dobranoc
23:02.51dankolbDobranoc, gregj

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