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07:09.35JDmorning all
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08:12.14JDhi all
08:16.03TarragonHi JD
08:24.40JDTarragon: why did you leave on Saturday night?
08:24.59JDdidn't have chance to say goodbye
08:25.46TarragonI had a funeral to attend on the Sunday
08:26.06TarragonSorry my fault. I should have said goodbye
08:26.47JDah okay
08:27.24JDwas much much quicker
08:27.38TarragonHow long?
08:27.47JD6h30m
08:27.59JDinstead of 8h
08:28.50JDwe got caught just north of birmingham for about 15min and about the same between J17-J16 on the M1
08:29.21TarragonThat's still very good.
08:29.25JDbut it took us 2 hours to get down to preston instead of the 4 hours it took from ripon
08:29.49JDdid 90 most of the way
08:30.14JDkm/h 'onest gov
08:30.18TarragonI did 70 and took 2 hours to England
08:30.35JDA702->M74->M6?
08:30.44TarragonYes
08:30.59JDmuch nicer than M1->A1->A68
08:31.15TarragonIt was dark so the A702 was only at 50 and not 60
08:32.50JDwe got caught behind a slow car for part of the way
08:34.08TarragonWhat did John Hearns talk about?
08:35.04JDmini-itx
08:35.19JDsmall cases
08:35.27JDcomputers in cars
08:35.43JDcomputers that fit in a 3.5" drive bay
08:35.50JDwas very good
08:36.04JDapparently much better than his practice talk
08:36.07Tarragonin a 3.5" bay?
08:36.14JDapparently so
08:36.17JDnetcom.com
08:37.03JDhmmm
08:37.07JDnexcom.com?
08:37.51JDthats the one
08:38.41JDexcept is is fubar in konq
08:38.56Tarragonlooking now
08:54.22Xiaoqimorning all
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10:35.09cup_does any know what adsl modem bt gives you with it broadband service?
10:37.47zacharybt home 500?
10:38.04cup_yes
10:40.52zacharyuse to be the Alcatel Speedtouch(usb). Can't find it as a current product, now owned by Thompon.
10:41.53zacharyThen again just found it.
10:42.18zacharyhttp://www.speedtouch.com/podusb.htm
10:52.28cup_thanks
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11:07.57jason_ukfsnafternoon all
11:11.39nasrathi jason_ukfsn
11:13.51SpudULikeWhat is the state of play with recent Linux distros, like SuSE 8.2, and domestic ADSL offerings like that from BT. If I do a SuSE install in someone's house who has BT ADSL, is the installation likely to set up the Internet connection properly? I've never had the need to play with ADSL so I just don't know what's involved.
11:14.17nasratSpudULike: use the speedtouch.sf.net drivers for a speedtouch modem
11:14.37nasratSpudULike: or better still get a real adsl router so it's just ethernet/ip
11:14.57jason_ukfsnSpudULike: if you are using the USB devices you'll need the correct drivers which you usually have to download separately due to copyright issues.
11:15.06jason_ukfsnIf you are using ethernet (ie with a router) it just works.
11:15.23jason_ukfsnOf course you should be recommending UKFSN for ADSL ;)
11:16.26jason_ukfsnHas anyone else here registered for the London MOB thing?
11:16.44SpudULikeFor new customers, Jason, I wouldn't dream of anyone else! I'm thinking of some existing ADSL users who I might just persuade to try a Linux distro. If it involves them buying a router then this would be unlikely to happen.
11:16.54nasratjason_ukfsn: what's that
11:17.52jason_ukfsnnasrat: you may have read on Slashdot about a couple of "mob events" in the US. See http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/25/0146250&mode=thread&tid=133&tid=186
11:18.02jason_ukfsnSilly fun.
11:18.53jason_ukfsnSpudULike: Most of the USB devices are supported. Certainly the Speedtouch "Frogs" BT gave out are - indeed there are at least two drivers for them - one is userspace the other kernel-land.
11:19.48SpudULikeSo an 'out-of-the-box' Linux install should be set-up automatically?
11:20.18SpudULikeWith 'minimal' prompting, at least.
11:21.08jason_ukfsnYou may have to bring a copy of the firmware update but yes with minimal prompting a recent distro should work.
11:22.05SpudULikeThis 'flash mob' stuff. Isn't that just a bit like pointing up into the sky, looking intensively at 'something' and, once the crowd have gathered to also point, wandering off to have a good laugh?
11:22.50TarragonOr forming a spontaneous queue?
11:23.26jason_ukfsnYes except that you do it with a fairly large crowd from the outset. I like the idea a lot - so long as you leave a lot of seriously confused people behind you.
11:23.49jason_ukfsnIt's a lot like some of the experiments I wanted to try when I studied psychology many years ago.
11:24.33jason_ukfsnIt seems to me that it's something that would appeal to the hacker/cracker spirit - pure social engineering.
11:25.36nasratSpudULike: I think some distros have a auto downloader - mandrake springs to mind, but I'm not 100% sure
11:27.14SpudULikeFlash mob in Soho on the 7th.
11:29.22jason_ukfsnYes I know. I'm on the mailing list and very much looking forward to it. Anyone else intending to come along and join me - and have a few drinks as well?
11:34.25jason_ukfsnI'm kind of tempted to do something to hack the mod event itself.
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11:35.11TarragonAfternoon RegularO
11:35.22RegularOHello.
11:38.02SpudULikejason_ukfsn: Very tempted to turn up on the 7th. I've only just subscribed so I will have to wait for fuller details until I can confirm a yes or no. "Hack the mob" sounds like fun, but what worries me is others hacking such an event with malicious intent  an spoiling it for all.
11:38.27zacharySpudULike: The only problem with bt's offerings(home user) is the microcode for the Speedtouch USB modem is proprietary(sp). Even with Smoothwall, the microcode must be uploaded seperately.
11:39.22jason_ukfsnyes there is a risk of that which is probably the reason for the secrecy around it. That said the nature of the event is such that it lasts for a very short time - a maximum of 10 minutes for this one.
11:39.49jason_ukfsnThat makes hijacking it with malicious intent a bit pointless as everyone just walks away by the time you get your malice underway.
11:40.21jason_ukfsnHacking it to do something silly other than the organisers intend could be done though and so long as it's not obviously malicious should work
11:40.29SpudULikezachary: If this is done automatically, like how the nVidia drivers are loaded, then this would be alright. How does the install get the drivers though, can it still use the ADSL or have these got to be supplied on a floppy or some-such?
11:40.36jason_ukfsnThe challenge is to think up an idea you can pull off in the area.
11:42.17SpudULikeEveryone to set their mobile phone alarms to go off at the same time. And for everyone to be in a deep tunnel tube train.
11:43.04jason_ukfsnSpudULike: not too bad although that would require a lot more planning and would limit your numbers a bit.
11:43.12SpudULikeDepends how many people you have
11:43.22SpudULikeErr, yeah, what he said.
11:43.26SpudULike;-)
11:45.24jason_ukfsnGiven that it's in Soho they could do an impromptu autograph signing - if enough people are getting autographs from someone nobody recognises outside one of the big theatres or cinemas how long before others think there is a major star there?
11:46.20SpudULikeOr everyone just asks everyone else around them for autographs. This would drag in people not part of the 'flash mob'
11:47.27jason_ukfsnyes but it's too obviously not "real". Having a single person (or a small number of people) at the centre of a large crowd would lead those not involved to think it was real. Then you just disperse leaving lots of people feeling rather silly - hopefully.
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11:51.54SpudULikeHmm, it's the unreal feel that appeals to me.
11:52.08Clyphox?
11:52.21ClyphoxWe talking games?
11:52.30SpudULikeClyphox: Oh yes!
11:52.37ClyphoxI love the unreal sound track.. gives it an awesome uniq feel
11:52.42jason_ukfsnnot exactly Clyphox. Ever heard of a flash mob?
11:52.50Clyphoxgraphics are pretty damn nice too.. good maps
11:53.02Clyphoxjason_ukfsn: nope?
11:53.13jason_ukfsnIt's on one of the advanced levels
11:54.02ClyphoxAll i know is "flash is the spawn of satan"
11:54.45SpudULikeDepartment store, at a set time everyone just stands on one leg for 30 seconds.
11:55.26jason_ukfsnqueue outside one of the large theatres and then just walk away when they open.
11:57.00SpudULikeThat would only bother the person opening the doors.
11:57.19jason_ukfsnor queue outside a large cinema/theatre facing away from it and just sort of shuffle to a point in the middle an open sq (like Leicester Sq) before walking away.
11:57.31jason_ukfsnNot if our queue is clearly separate.
11:59.43SpudULikeIs the square still open. Everyone turns up to form a circle around the statue (is is Shakespeare?), walk around it once and everyone then goes their separate ways.
12:00.57SpudULikebrb
12:01.42JDDave Gorman is playing in Bedford during October
12:01.46JDanyone interested?
12:01.57Clyphoxhehe
12:02.11Clyphoxif my surname was Gorman and I had cash
12:02.17Clyphoxhave fun
12:03.51jason_ukfsnagk: the flash mob thing is explained here -  http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/25/0146250&mode=thread&tid=133&tid=186
12:04.12jason_ukfsnClyphox: the flash mob thing is explained here -  http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/25/0146250&mode=thread&tid=133&tid=186
12:04.38jason_ukfsnI don't know why my client decided to change who I addressed that last comment to.
12:04.48ClyphoxI want a "Midnight Perl"
12:05.04Clyphoxdamn UK shops.... /me grumbles
12:05.06jason_ukfsnMidnight Perl?
12:05.23ClyphoxGM Zebra fish that glows in the dark :-)
12:07.04Clyphoxlol!
12:07.10Clyphoxflash mobs look fun
12:07.51jason_ukfsnThe first London mob happens on Thursday this week.
12:08.10Clyphoxlol
12:08.30Clyphoxgot a URL?
12:08.49jason_ukfsnhttp://www.geocities.com/londonflashmob/
12:10.34TarragonClyphox: Fish are called "Night Pearls" best photo at http://www.mongabay.com/external/glowing_fish.htm
12:11.23Clyphoxoops.. my bad
12:11.46ClyphoxAparently it takes a little UV too get them glowing it seems
12:12.41JDback
12:18.31JDso I go home to irc with all my friends and then they all bugger off
12:18.42jason_ukfsnyep, we're all bastards ;)
12:18.52JDindeed
12:19.12jason_ukfsnquiet bastards too!
12:19.23JDhmmm BBC on sky is not BBC east
12:19.30JDs/not/now/
12:19.49jason_ukfsnIs that relevant for your area? I know that they do sometimes localise things.
12:20.23jason_ukfsnYou may find the channel you were expecting on some other channel - flip through the channel list and see if they have moved it elsewhere.
12:25.07JDit used to be BBC London
12:25.14JDno it is correct
12:25.16JDnow
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12:45.59zacharybbl
12:51.45JDskugg: you got home okay I take it?
12:51.52skuggJD, yeah.
12:51.56JDgood
12:52.01skuggill though, so skived work today
12:52.12skuggcoughing my lungs up
12:52.35JDhmmm hope you feel better soon
12:53.48skuggyeah, i do so too. :P
12:54.08skuggi'm a bit better already actually -- i think it helped just sleeping lots
12:54.29skuggi was up at 7 though, and was not at all in any state to go to work
13:05.32gregjre
13:06.10nasrattoo hot to be working today :(
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13:11.18skuggyeah.
13:11.22skuggit's damn hot
13:14.03skuggJD, can i pick your brain a wee bit?
13:25.20JDskugg: aye
13:25.24JDhi nikki
13:25.33Xiaoqihi JD
13:25.45JDhow is jen?
13:25.51skuggJD, i was just wondering how your ~/Maildir looks...
13:26.00skugg(just in general, not specific :P)
13:26.14skugg~/Maildir/.INBOX.Debian etc?
13:26.20skuggor just ~/Maildir/.Debian?
13:26.59XiaoqiJD: she's ok
13:27.15JDarguild020 david% ls  ~/Maildir -a
13:27.16JD./                     cur/                     .Debian.Policy/  .irssi.dev/       .KDE.kmail-bugs/       .lugs.mklug.mk-ot/     new/                .Security/          sqwebmail-config         tmp/
13:27.20JD../                    .Debian/                 .Debian.SGML/    .irssi.users/     .KDE.packager/         .lugs.mklug.mk-web/    .Nominet.Announce/  .Security.Bugtraq/  sqwebmail-curcache.gdbm  .Trash/
13:27.47skugg'mkay.
13:28.03skuggthanks :)
14:23.58zacharybbl
14:31.46nasratmmmm ice-cream :)
14:32.19skugg:)
14:59.05nasratI so don't want to work on Wednesday if it's >=37
14:59.46skuggnasrat, bah. i _want_ to go to work that day...
14:59.51skuggwe have aircon ;)
15:00.08gregjjason_ukfsn: :-)
15:00.11skugg</trolling>
15:01.25nasratskugg: note I said _work_ not _goto_
15:05.27skuggnasrat, hm...
15:05.37skugg'mkay ;)
15:06.11skuggi certainly want to _be_ at the office because of the AC. but actually do any work is a different matter, i guess ;)
15:07.06nasratmain office isn't that air conditioned
15:08.48skuggours is -- about 21 deg :)
15:09.51cup_my office has a tin roof
15:10.44skugglucky you :P
15:23.11jason_ukfsndoes yout cat5 run over it cup_?
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17:55.17skuggls
17:55.20skuggbah.
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19:08.07pie'lo all
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19:17.35Leedsis anyone actually here?
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19:23.16Leedscupis: ping
19:23.24cupisLeeds: pong
19:23.40Leedsgood...
19:23.54LeedsI was wondering why there was no topic and no-one talking... do you see a topic?
19:24.14cupisnope, blank topic on this channel today
19:24.28*** topic/#gllug by cupis -> There is no topic!
19:24.57*** topic/#gllug by cupis -> There is no topic for this channel. Discuss.
19:25.04cupisLeeds: better?
19:25.20*** topic/#gllug by Leeds -> is a chocolate bar
19:25.27Leedshmm...
19:25.37LeedsI'm sure we shouldn't just be able to change that...
19:26.01cupisSomeone removed +t from the channel, I guess.
19:26.15Leedsguess so
19:27.22stephanbibot what is a chocolate bar
19:27.23I think you lost me on that one, stephanb
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19:27.55stephanbanybody here has played with init.d scripts ?
19:28.10cupisLeeds: look! another person
19:28.19cupisstephanb: a bit
19:28.21Leedsah-ha!
19:28.28Leedswhat about them?
19:29.43stephanbi've got a script to run fine calling bash commands and other binary stuff
19:30.15stephanbif i get this script to call another bash script in the background, nothing happens (command followed by &)
19:30.28stephanbif i type /etc/init.d/myscript start
19:30.32stephanbit works !
19:37.32Leedsduno
19:37.40stephanbLeeds: computer DVD players or domestic DVD players ?
19:37.46cupisstephanb: I'm still waiting for the question...
19:38.40cupisstephanb: at least your question is on-topic for this channel, unlike much of what used to go on here.
19:39.07stephanbwhat would make a script show at boot with [OK] and not work, whereas typing "/etc/init.d/myscript start" does work ?
19:39.26Leedsdomestic
19:39.27cupisstephanb: what return value does the script give?
19:40.49Leedsstephanb: run with -x?
19:41.24stephanbok, 2mins, gotta swich monitors (other machine)
19:51.09stephanbk
19:51.37stephanbi think i sussed it, the other script i was calling wasn't exiting properly
19:52.23stephanbbtw, what is the equivalent of run -x under bash ? (i use echo $?)
19:53.12LeedsI don't know what run -x does
19:54.03cupisstephanb: #! /bin/bash -x ?
19:55.37stephanbcall me a dork
19:55.47cupisstephanb: you are a dork.
19:55.58zacharystephanb: dork
19:56.07cupisah, another person!
19:57.36zacharystephanb: don't worry, I'm completely illittterate: Bash, Pearl, English...
20:01.30stephanbzachary: well, not quite otherwise you would be talking hungarian on this channel
20:25.22zacharybrb
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20:30.17cozmonorthi room
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20:53.21zacharyevening Jenson
20:53.41Jensonheya
20:54.55cozmonorthi
20:56.30*** topic/#gllug by zachary -> Greater London Linux User Group - Next meeting: 17th Aug 2003 - Bletchley Park, 27th Sep 2003 - Westminster Uni. http://gllug.org.uk
20:56.35stephanbhi furniture
20:56.50cozmonorthi lamp
20:57.25cozmonorthow r u today
20:57.36cozmonortenjoyed watching Matrix yesterday
20:57.58stephanbyessss
20:58.17stephanbi prefered it to "reloaded"
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20:59.11cozmonortits definetly different, theres also the case of not knowing whats going on at the beginning
20:59.26cozmonortu definetly watched in the wrong order though :P
21:00.06stephanbi do that
21:00.18zacharywb paul
21:00.23nasratty
21:01.38Jensoni
21:01.56nasratJenson: counting in roman numerals is fun
21:02.35Jensonhi even
21:02.39Jensonfsck me im still cold
21:02.41nasratbbl
21:02.43stephanbnasrat: are you that bored ?
21:02.58cozmonortcold?
21:03.04Jensonnasrat: dont you love me :P
21:03.20Jensoncozmonort: yeh been walking round the bad area of town getting called a hooker
21:03.45cozmonortooh my god
21:03.58cozmonorterm, what happened
21:04.35cozmonortapart from been called a hooker part ?
21:04.48Jensoni was hanging out with my mates
21:04.52Jensonthey went to see one of their nans
21:04.56Jensonmy phone was dead
21:05.01Jensonso i didnt know what time it was
21:05.03Jensoni got freezing cold
21:05.11Jensonwanker guys started calling me a punk hooker
21:05.13Jensonso i moved
21:05.32Jensonwas meant to meet my mates at 8:30, dunno if they didnt come back or i missed them
21:05.39Jensonin the end got bored and walked to the phone box
21:05.44Jensongot my dad to pick me up
21:05.49Jensongot home at quarter to ten
21:06.07cozmonortarg sounds like uv had a ruff day
21:06.11cozmonort:(
21:06.40Jensonno the rest of the day was alright
21:06.44Jensoni watched someone do a bong
21:06.49Jensonso now i finally understand that
21:06.53cozmonorthehe
21:07.05stephanb?? a bong ??
21:07.22Jensoni spilt water on myself in one of my post cigarette un cordinatedness lol
21:07.39Jensoni almost offered some guy id just met a shag
21:07.43Jensoncoz he was cute
21:08.10cozmonorthttp://shop.grasscity.com/cgi-bin/grasscity/scan/sp=results_subcategory/sf=category/ml=8/se=Waterpipes%20Acrylic.html
21:08.27cozmonorttypical u
21:08.32Jensoncozmonort: you ever done a bong darling?
21:08.54Jensoncozmonort: well i dunno if i thought he was cute, or whether i just thought i wanted a shag
21:09.11cozmonortyeah
21:09.34Jensonim very very bored, if you know what i mean :)
21:09.35cozmonortive done bongs before
21:09.50cozmonorthehe, come down give me a visit ;)
21:09.56Jensonhehehe
21:10.01Jensonevidently im an ugly bitch
21:10.11cozmonortbollocks
21:10.31Jensonaccording to the wankers who were calling me a hooker
21:10.37Jensonmaybe i could have made some money
21:10.37stephanbthe idiot would like to have the word "bong" explained
21:10.43cozmonortwell there wankers
21:10.55Jensonstephanb: its just the word for it alright
21:11.31Jensonthe guy doing the bong was cute....never did catch his name though
21:12.56cozmonortso uve been hanging around cute guys all day then
21:13.29Jensoncozmonort: now stephan is confused between what a bong is and what a hooker is l0ol
21:14.00cozmonortJenson: i'll explian in min :P
21:15.51cozmonortstephanb: a bong is pip connected to "weed" or "hash" on the other side with water inbetween to cool down the smoke as u suck through the pipe
21:17.16stephanbyeah it's a called a hookah in north africa
21:17.47cozmonortahh i think i seee why u got confused
21:18.20Jensonoh is that what the water is for lol
21:18.36Jensoni didnt get quite what the whole actual point of a bong was
21:19.07Jensonother than the manky brown resin coulored water
21:19.23cozmonortlol
21:20.04Jensoni got told by a 14 year old not to smoke
21:20.12Jensonmainly coz she didnt ewant anyone scrounging hert fags lol
21:20.36cozmonortlmao
21:20.52Jensoni dont smoke anyway
21:21.27Jensoncozmonort: and by my definition a hooker is a pigeon lol
21:21.32cozmonortyeah ok, i beleive u
21:21.39cozmonortlol
21:22.09cozmonortso uve been called a pigeon today :P
21:22.27Jensonyeh lol
21:23.44cozmonortjust got my dinner so i might start typing funny :P
21:23.45*** join/#gllug Cope (~sanelson@wibbleworld.demon.co.uk)
21:24.22cozmonorthi Cope
21:24.25Jensonheya hon
21:26.49Jensonh yeh, cozmonort these ppl have got a can...(one of those treees that i cant spell the word for) groinwg in their garden
21:27.06Jensonbah i cant type tonight
21:27.20CopeYou can't type any night.
21:27.30cozmonortnp i get the general jist of what ur saying
21:28.18cozmonort1 of my bros has dedicated a old bedroom to it in his house :P
21:28.18Jensonor i could just say marijuana plant
21:29.27cozmonortand the room goes mute
21:29.43cozmonortalthough technically were typing :P
21:29.56Jensonlol
21:29.56Jensonim here still
21:30.01Jensonjust being lazy and not typing
21:30.09cozmonortim eating
21:30.36Jensonim tired
21:30.41CopeWoo nasrat
21:30.43Jensonbut i aint gonna sleep yet
21:30.46Jensoni feel flirty
21:30.49cozmonortwb
21:30.58CopeJenson - where do you live? Is it cheap?
21:30.59Jensonthat guy who will pay me for sex keeps texting me
21:31.00nasrathot
21:31.04Copewe need to move house.
21:31.04Jensonmaybe i should text him back
21:31.22JensonCope: some of it is yeh, but I'm about 80 miles out of London
21:31.35cozmonortJenson: i cant beleive ur even considering it
21:31.57nasratcozmonort: hey I know someone who did male escorting for a bit
21:31.58Jensoncozmonort: he still owes me 10 quid anyway
21:32.01Jensonim just avoiding him
21:32.05CopeJenson> How much is the train, and where does it go?
21:32.08Jensoncoz i dont want to sleep wityh hom
21:32.38cozmonortcool
21:32.48JensonCope: like 18 quid to london i think
21:33.01Jensoncant really get anywhere much without going into london first though
21:33.18new2unixdoes anyone know how i can set quota for my users?
21:34.01CopeHi new2unix
21:34.06new2unixi need to limit them to a certain amount of diskspace. any clues?
21:34.09new2unixhi Cope
21:34.58nasratnew2unix: quota support - man quota
21:35.46new2unixcheers nasrat. will look into it now.
21:36.09CopeEdit /etc/fstab and add usrquota or grpquota iirc, then is it edquota to modify?
21:38.40cozmonortarg to hot to type
21:39.00new2unixok. there is no man quota, userquota, grpquota, edquota nor quota support on this box.
21:39.09new2unixperhaps i should google. ;)
21:39.27CopeMaybe :-)
21:40.32new2unixnight all. its bedtime for me.
21:40.40CopeNight ;o)
21:49.11*** join/#gllug pie (~pie@82-68-20-246.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk)
21:51.32CopeEveryone is deserting me.
21:51.35Cope:-(
21:52.55Leeds..
21:53.07CopeYay!
21:53.26CopeAh... not for much longer then?
21:53.33CopeHappy birthday for the weekend, btw!
21:53.49Leedscheers
21:54.01LeedsI've been dozing... got stuff to do before bed though
21:54.55stephanbi'm off, i'm gonna brush my teeth and go to bed
21:55.02CopeNIght stephanb :-)
21:55.40stephanbnite Cope
21:55.46stephanbnite cozmonort
21:55.49stephanbnite Leeds
21:55.50Leedsnight
21:55.56stephanbnite Jenson
21:57.11CopeWhat kind of flat do you have, Leeds?
21:57.21Jensonnite stephanb
21:57.24Leeds2-bed, 1-bath
21:58.02stephanbnice bath --shower | bed
21:58.16*** part/#gllug stephanb (~frog@dsl-80-46-215-172.access.uk.tiscali.com)
22:10.22Leedsyes, all mine
22:10.40CopeOwned or rented?
22:11.00Leedsowned
22:11.49Leedsbought it just over 3 years ago
22:12.08CopeGood one!
22:15.12Jensonnight
22:15.21Leedsnight?
22:15.44cozmonortgoodnight room
22:15.51*** part/#gllug cozmonort (CostaGauci@82-35-122-241.cable.ubr01.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk)
22:16.29Jensonyes, night Leeds
22:16.36Leedswhat's night?
22:16.54Jensontime when its dark if you turn the lkights and the pc and the laptop and the tivo off
22:17.14CopeYou turn your computer off!!!
22:17.18Cope???
22:17.22Jensongoodpoint
22:17.24Jensoni dont lol
22:17.33Jensoni turn the monito the speakers and the printer off
22:17.36Jensonanyway
22:17.38Jensonseeya!
22:17.50CopeHeh - I got to the stage when it was too quiet if I turned my computers off for some reason.
22:17.57Leedstivo off???
22:18.10Leedstivo stays on! it watches TV when my body is too weak to stay awake
22:19.00CopeWhat is a tivo?
22:19.10CopeIs it a posh video?
22:19.22Leedstivo is the uber-video
22:19.26Leedsit's a hyper-intelligent video
22:19.32Leedsit runs Linux! :-)
22:19.44CopeWoo
22:20.20Leedsyou've read the hitch-hikers
22:20.22Leedsguide?
22:20.34CopeMany times! :-))
22:20.44Leedsand the dirk gently's?
22:20.53CopeAbsolutely.
22:21.01Leedselectronic monk?
22:21.07CopeGotcha
22:21.15Leedscomments about "video watched TV for you"?
22:21.39Leedswell... TiVo is the real embodiment of that... it *decides* what to watch...
22:22.28CopeAwesome
22:23.39Xiaoqievening all
22:23.43Leedshey Xiaoqi
22:23.52Xiaoqihi Leeds hows you?
22:23.56CopeWoo Xiaoqi
22:24.00Xiaoqihi Cope
22:24.04Cope'Hiya
22:24.09Xiaoqidankolb just arrived here
22:24.25Xiaoqihe and clyphox are talking computers and geek stuff already!
22:24.41CopeCool!
22:25.00CopeIs it still light?
22:25.10CopeNearly?
22:25.25CopeMind you, its August now, so probably not.
22:25.59CopeI remember when I was a kid... being able to play outside till -really- late and it still being light.
22:27.10Xiaoqihehe
22:27.17Xiaoqiit is still a bit light up here
22:28.14Xiaoqiit starting to get darker earlier -its eleven when the sun goes down now :( it was about 2 am!
22:29.56Xiaoqime too
22:30.17XiaoqiI was enjoying David and his friends taking me to the beach to play frisbee a tgone midnight, hehe
22:33.04Xiaoqibalmedie?
22:33.53Copemebbe
22:35.00Xiaoqiits a big sandy place with lots of dunes
22:36.47CopeYeah - that's the place.
22:41.01CopeWoo dankolb!
22:41.34dankolb:)
22:42.27Leedshey dan
22:43.14Xiaoqidankolb: hi
22:44.02dankolbHi Xiaoqi
22:44.17dankolbAnd hi Leeds and Cope
22:44.25dankolbLeeds: Did you get your 2.30pm train?
22:44.33Leedsyes, by about 2 minutes
22:44.55dankolbGood good :)
22:45.38Copeleeds> You only travelled back today? Must be tired.
22:45.46LeedsCope: yesterday
22:47.52CopeAh ok.
22:48.16*** join/#gllug new2unix (~new2unix@dsl-217-155-250-142.zen.co.uk)
22:48.26Xiaoqiwb new2unix
22:48.50CopeYay! relo new2unix
22:49.21new2unixwhat happened?
22:49.39dankolbYou went boom
22:49.43new2unixi think i may have been disconnected and reconnected without me knowing. heh
22:49.44CopeThere was a phase anomaly in the warp core.
22:49.55Leedsibot excuse
22:49.56Leeds: I give up, what is it?
22:50.01new2unixsleep time folks. night night :)
22:50.06Leedsg'night new2unix
22:50.12new2unixnight all
22:50.15Copenn
22:50.19dankolbnn new2unix
22:50.38new2unixif i pop off and on, just know its automagic that i'm safe in bed.
22:50.51CopeSee you at 6.30ish
22:58.41dankolbhi Xiaoqi
23:00.29CopeNight dankolb; Xiaoqi; Leeds.
23:00.36Leedsnight cope
23:27.31irvined__evening all
23:28.10Leedshey
23:46.16dankolbCython?
23:54.40irvined__heh
23:54.47irvined__how do you escape a / from sed?
23:54.53dankolb\/
23:54.55irvined__hmm
23:54.58irvined__thats what i thought
23:54.59dankolbWhy do you need to?
23:55.09dankolbYou can use a different separator
23:55.18dankolbe.g. s,/,foo,
23:55.58irvined__good point
23:56.46Leedsirvined__: are you not on the gllug list?
23:57.18LeedsI answered this question today
23:58.49irvined__Leeds: i am, just havent had time to read much mail reecently
23:59.00irvined__i'm strugling to read personal mail these days,
23:59.12irvined__i've been working since 8am, and am nowhere near getting finished :(

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