01:12.59 | Tarragon | Wimp! |
01:13.36 | Leeds | CLI! |
01:13.44 | Tarragon | :-) |
01:14.15 | Leeds | of course... if you had command-line tools, they'd be called... |
01:15.03 | Leeds | eh... |
01:16.28 | Tarragon | I still need to read my email never mind reply. |
05:05.59 | new2unix | moin all |
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06:56.07 | Tarragon | Moin |
06:56.16 | zachary | moin |
06:58.59 | JD | hi all |
06:59.33 | JD | Tarragon: do you ever sleep? |
07:44.12 | Cope|Asleep | moin :o) |
07:44.25 | JD | sleep ircing again? |
07:53.33 | Jenson | morning |
07:57.17 | Cope | Morning Jenson :-) |
07:58.16 | Jenson | morning Cope how are you? |
07:58.18 | JD | morning |
07:58.31 | JD | see you in 5 |
08:03.32 | JD | a bit early isn;t it? |
08:04.10 | Jenson | JD: go to work honey :) |
08:04.26 | JD | I am at work |
08:04.48 | Jenson | oh yeh |
08:04.53 | Jenson | i forgot you live next to work |
08:05.16 | Jenson | Alex's bed is now covered with half a ton of my stuff that i seem to find it necessary to carry around with me |
08:05.31 | JD | why are you not at work? |
08:06.01 | Cope | Who? Me or Jenson? |
08:06.12 | JD | both |
08:06.32 | Jenson | JD: coz im in london, i dont work here lol |
08:06.44 | Cope | Me - I almost always have Monday off. I'm cooking lunch for Sophie, so I can take it to her later. |
08:06.45 | JD | Jenson: that isn;t an answer |
08:07.01 | JD | I guessed that you were in london and I know you don;t work in London |
08:07.05 | Jenson | Cope: you two are so sweet, she must be real nice |
08:07.14 | Cope | Jenson> You can shop with me if you like, since I am off today. |
08:07.23 | Cope | Jenson: She is the best. |
08:07.46 | Jenson | Cope: I'm out of money mate....which seenas its only a week today since i got paid is kinda not good |
08:10.59 | Jenson | oh my dads in a good mood this morning, its cool that he's taken a months holidasy rom work to hang out with my mother |
08:12.13 | Cope | Jenson: You don't need to spend any money - I'm broke too. Could just hang out, if you're around. |
08:12.30 | Cope | My main task today is to sort out laundry - that's about it. |
08:13.03 | Jenson | Cope: well today im going home, but we will organize it for another time ok :) |
08:13.43 | pie|away | moinin all |
08:13.49 | pie|away | bloody hot isn't it. |
08:14.02 | Jenson | heya pie |
08:14.10 | pie | 'lo |
08:14.20 | pie | it is 30 in my office at 9:00 |
08:17.21 | Cope | Heh? Its really cool. |
08:17.49 | pie | celcius? |
08:17.54 | pie | that is not cool... |
08:18.28 | Cope | No - its cool where I am. |
08:18.40 | Cope | Anyway, hi pie :-) |
08:18.51 | pie | hello |
08:19.05 | JD | argh got to do work |
08:19.08 | JD | see you later |
08:19.13 | Jenson | seeya JD |
08:29.26 | Jenson | oh well, time to go |
08:29.33 | Jenson | see you all online tonight guys |
08:29.35 | Jenson | take care |
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09:23.59 | Tarragon | If you cannot browse to a website - why would you ever ping the IP address? I am arguing on another channel tha you can then tell if problem is your end or at webservers. Other Network engineer is saying you should only ping a well known IP that does not filter ICMP. Should I never ping someones webserver? |
09:25.34 | pie | no, that is a load of arse |
09:25.40 | pie | ping away |
09:25.49 | pie | maybe ping -c1 i.p.add.ress |
09:25.58 | pie | that will only send one ping |
09:26.39 | pie | You can eliminate possibilities with a ping |
09:27.05 | pie | like, if the web server is unreachable but the server pings then you can eliminate a load of possible problems |
09:27.33 | Tarragon | Thank you |
09:28.41 | pie | any systems admin that take offence at someone pinging their server to see if it is actually there is being daft |
09:29.05 | pie | yes, if you DDoS if, then they can be annoyed, but 1 ICMP packet? I don't think so. |
09:40.34 | Cope | Nice rant! :o) |
09:48.44 | pie | thanks :-) |
09:48.52 | pie | it jues seems obvious to me... |
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10:55.49 | Cope | Woo Leeds! |
10:56.36 | gregj | they don't have too much work recently :-) |
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11:36.43 | amartinez | Hello, Is anybody on-line? |
11:37.16 | zachary | lo amartinez |
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13:41.03 | zachary | bbl, toys arived today :) |
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14:01.52 | pie | afternoon |
14:02.14 | nasrat | hey NisoDaemon |
14:02.23 | NisoDaemon | Well done Pie.Can you count to ten as well now? :) |
14:03.01 | nasrat | 00, 01, 10 |
14:03.07 | NisoDaemon | Pie "for(1..10) print $_" if it helps ;) |
14:03.38 | nasrat | bah sec 1 10 |
14:04.00 | NisoDaemon | lol |
14:04.05 | NisoDaemon | i'm on windows :) |
14:04.16 | nasrat | cygwin? |
14:04.24 | pie | take that |
14:04.26 | NisoDaemon | pie just got the joke? :) |
14:04.58 | NisoDaemon | Nas: nc and seq, the poor mans nmap |
14:05.46 | nasrat | NisoDaemon: ick |
14:06.29 | NisoDaemon | it does work. Hawtin introduced me to that one. |
14:10.13 | nasrat | I believe it |
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14:35.33 | new2unix- | wb /me |
14:35.50 | pie | 'lo |
14:35.58 | Leeds | foo |
14:36.02 | pie | d |
14:36.07 | new2unix- | how'dy y'all |
14:36.10 | Leeds | mmm... |
14:37.04 | new2unix- | brb folks. i hear a cry in the distance... seeya'll |
14:37.31 | Leeds | who was that masked man? |
14:37.44 | gregj | me |
14:38.35 | gregj | solaris ? no problems... |
14:39.00 | Leeds | testing stuff |
14:42.53 | gregj | Leeds: can you say something on jabber ? |
14:43.22 | gregj | debug message says that you are avaliable, but i cannot see your icon |
14:44.34 | Leeds | hmm... |
14:45.37 | gregj | or maybe you are not avaliable, just server send information about you |
14:45.38 | gregj | dunno |
14:45.56 | Leeds | hang on |
14:46.02 | Leeds | server *wasn't running* |
14:46.11 | gregj | hmm |
14:49.14 | Leeds | happy? |
14:49.26 | Leeds | that server hasn't been running for weeks |
14:52.56 | gregj | well, i haven't seen you on jabber for ages now |
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14:55.35 | Leeds | because, frankly, it's only you and locust I talk to on jabber... locust is effectively gone, and I talk to you too much anyway |
14:56.05 | Cope | Hi Leeds. |
14:56.06 | gregj | thanks |
14:56.14 | Cope | Hello gregj |
14:56.37 | Leeds | blah blah |
14:56.52 | gregj | ;P |
14:57.04 | Cope | Leeds: I have a message from you - how do I read it! |
14:57.39 | Cope | Ah - cracked it. |
14:57.59 | nasrat | rot13 then :P |
14:58.02 | Leeds | do you? |
14:58.14 | Cope | I do. |
14:58.17 | Cope | :-) |
14:58.48 | Leeds | what did I say? |
14:59.29 | gregj | www.novell.com/de-de/linux/ |
14:59.34 | gregj | and vote for KDE guys |
14:59.44 | Cope | You said that you would meet me for the planne bank job at 4pm on Threadneedle Street. You also reminded me to bring a spare gun, just in case. |
15:00.02 | Leeds | righto |
15:00.16 | Cope | You also mentioned that you use dillo on your iPaq |
15:00.19 | Leeds | gregj: never! |
15:00.22 | Leeds | ah, that |
15:00.29 | gregj | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
15:00.35 | Leeds | Afterstep for ever! |
15:00.39 | gregj | who's agains me will |
15:00.42 | gregj | :] |
15:00.50 | gregj | s/agains/against/ |
15:02.04 | Tarragon | gregj: Openbox Ownz J00 |
15:02.26 | Cope | CDE |
15:03.13 | Leeds | Cope: take that back |
15:04.04 | gregj | lamerzz ;P |
15:04.09 | gregj | KDE rulez |
15:04.58 | Leeds | bloody Germans |
15:05.05 | Leeds | ibot German |
15:05.06 | | ACTION doesn't mention the war |
15:05.07 | nasrat | I'm sure we had enough creative discussion yesterday |
15:05.49 | Cope | I use KDE on all my desktop machines these days, fwiw. |
15:06.34 | Cope | Although I agree with Leeds, I used to use afterstep, and really liked it. But I wouldn't recommend it as a serious competitor for the migrating desktop/office user. |
15:06.51 | Leeds | Cope: sure... but it fits with the slackware philosophy for me :-) |
15:07.48 | Tarragon | Does anyone use StarOffice? I want to write a letter "e" then another letter "e" but showing a dot on where to put the pen first and an arrow showing how to draw the letter. Any ideas how or what should I be using? |
15:08.43 | Cope | Leeds: In what way? |
15:08.50 | Leeds | Tarragon: you mean a picture of how to draw a letter e? |
15:09.48 | Cope | Leeds: Also, did you get my msg earlier? Sophie has confirmed she wants to come on Sunday, so we would love to accept your offer of a lift. |
15:11.06 | Tarragon | Leeds - yes |
15:12.56 | JD | hi all |
15:14.09 | Cope | Hiya |
15:14.36 | JD | so having to set uop a modem and webmail on teh old ADSL |
15:14.49 | JD | did I mention it was hot |
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15:22.15 | NisoDaemon | You hide as well you edit ;) |
15:22.31 | Leeds | chase than Mancunian! |
15:22.35 | NisoDaemon | How was Edinburgh? |
15:22.35 | Leeds | that |
15:22.48 | NisoDaemon | Leeds: thats something he heasnt heard in .... five six seconds |
15:23.08 | NisoDaemon | "Get the Mancs guy! No chase the scouser!" |
15:23.20 | NisoDaemon | shouts the cockney looking for a diversion :) |
15:24.31 | NisoDaemon | <PROTECTED> |
15:24.45 | Leeds | we've got some very very loud Dell machines here... |
15:24.52 | Leeds | aircon is coping decently though |
15:25.01 | Tarragon | NisoDaemon: You blowing hot air out again? |
15:25.33 | NisoDaemon | Tarr: theres so little air i've even been laying off the curries. |
15:25.40 | NisoDaemon | Not good poisioning your own air supply ;) |
15:25.44 | Leeds | bloody hell - it's an emergency |
15:26.08 | NisoDaemon | Well when it just sits there its not good. its supposed to waft down the pub |
15:27.56 | NisoDaemon | Funny but i cant imagine me wafting... Have to be a hell if anh updraft to get me moving |
15:28.04 | NisoDaemon | if/of |
15:28.14 | Leeds | s/h// |
15:28.30 | Tarragon | The Dutch bank "Postbank" has ceded to a linux petition and now supports not IE browsers |
15:28.37 | Leeds | woo-hoo |
15:28.39 | Leeds | supports? |
15:29.29 | Tarragon | Moz, Konquer, opera. Promised to support more |
15:29.47 | Tarragon | s/not/non |
15:29.47 | eye69 | Tarragon: Nice. |
15:29.56 | eye69 | Lets hope that other banks follow suit |
15:30.05 | Leeds | what does support mean? |
15:30.27 | Tarragon | Means you can do your online banking with moz |
15:30.35 | eye69 | Probably not what you want it to mean |
15:30.36 | JD | Tarragon: does that mean they don;t support IE now instead# |
15:30.43 | NisoDaemon | lol |
15:30.49 | Leeds | as in, if I call them and say "I'm using moz on Linux and the page isn't working" do they have people who know moz and/or Linux to help? |
15:30.55 | NisoDaemon | "Due to hatemail all IE users can FOAD" |
15:31.53 | Tarragon | The bank says it will officially support Moz and Konqueror |
15:38.32 | pie | Has anyone seem that 'pirates of the Carribean' film at all? |
15:38.35 | pie | Any opinions? |
15:39.10 | Leeds | I wanted to, gregj wouldn't let me |
15:39.22 | NisoDaemon | good man gregj |
15:39.29 | pie | I heard it was a bit pants |
15:39.32 | NisoDaemon | Leeds: Your male. |
15:39.47 | NisoDaemon | You dont go to films with johhny depp in them, |
15:39.49 | Leeds | what about my male? |
15:39.50 | NisoDaemon | EVER |
15:39.58 | Leeds | I saw Chocolate... I had to |
15:40.00 | NisoDaemon | Pie: See t3 instead. |
15:40.10 | pie | Hmmm, not really my decision |
15:40.18 | NisoDaemon | As if anything is :) |
15:40.37 | nasrat | NisoDaemon: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0308514 |
15:40.51 | Leeds | saw T3... |
15:40.58 | pie | I can't really say 'Darling, NisoDaemon says we shouldn't go and see PotC because it has Johnny Depp in it and I am male'. |
15:41.00 | nasrat | I'd rather see pirates than t3 |
15:41.06 | Leeds | nasrat: me too... |
15:41.32 | NisoDaemon | T3's watachable |
15:41.37 | nasrat | Johnny Depp is supposed to be v. camp, as should any swashbuckler be |
15:41.43 | NisoDaemon | I've heard nothing but bad things about Pirates |
15:41.56 | pie | Like, they take your boats and stuff? |
15:42.00 | NisoDaemon | Pie. You have no say, i know this you know this. |
15:42.38 | pie | Bah |
15:42.41 | nasrat | http://film.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/Critic_Review/Observer_Film_of_the_week/0,4267,1015555,00.html |
15:43.44 | nasrat | http://film.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/Critic_Review/Guardian_Film_of_the_week/0,4267,1015099,00.html |
15:44.05 | NisoDaemon | hummmmmm |
15:45.04 | nasrat | avast |
15:45.09 | NisoDaemon | OK there are some good reviews. |
15:45.22 | NisoDaemon | Still go and see Arnie instead |
15:45.29 | NisoDaemon | Show your support for the next president |
15:45.43 | NisoDaemon | "Iraq, We'll be back" |
15:46.05 | Leeds | what, again? |
15:46.44 | NisoDaemon | Well on the plus side Arnie is actually better traveled. |
15:47.11 | nasrat | hec *can't* be prez I thought as he wasn't born in the US |
15:47.15 | pie | Arnie can't become president anyway, he wann't born in the US |
15:47.26 | pie | damn, you got there first :) |
15:47.27 | Leeds | true... until they change the rule |
15:47.31 | NisoDaemon | rules change |
15:47.38 | NisoDaemon | welcome to the wonderful world of Bush |
15:47.46 | pie | that sounds so wrong ;-) |
15:48.04 | pie | Can I quote you on that? |
15:48.33 | NisoDaemon | You can quote me on anything i'll lie and say it wasn't true :) |
15:48.48 | pie | And rely on your reputation to carry you through? |
15:49.03 | pie | :-) |
15:49.04 | NisoDaemon | Yep. |
15:49.10 | Leeds | ibot logs |
15:49.11 | | http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
15:49.13 | NisoDaemon | And my ability to inspire fear. |
15:49.22 | NisoDaemon | ibot whois rikers.org |
15:49.23 | | NisoDaemon: no idea |
15:49.35 | NisoDaemon | I just need to find out who owns the server :) |
15:50.24 | Leeds | ibot bzflag |
15:50.25 | | [bzflag] mailto:Tim@Rikers.org or the former CTO of Embedix, Inc. (Lineo) and maintainer of the 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (linux, irix, win32, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game of the same name that you must try at http://BZFlag.org/ or a continual development project with periodic gaming |
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15:50.41 | jason_ukfsn | afternoon all |
15:50.45 | Leeds | hey jason_ukfsn |
15:50.52 | NisoDaemon | Leeds does he have any kids? or a favored pet? :) |
15:50.56 | pie | mornin |
15:51.09 | Leeds | NisoDaemon: neither that I know of... |
15:51.14 | NisoDaemon | Pie you still advancing time on how much work you get through between pub breaks :) |
15:51.19 | pie | jason, we like your hosting |
15:51.25 | NisoDaemon | he must have something i can use for leverage ;) |
15:51.26 | pie | but not as much as a spoon |
15:51.27 | Leeds | pie: do we? |
15:51.33 | Leeds | ??? |
15:51.36 | NisoDaemon | Leeds: we do. |
15:51.40 | pie | cos thats more use for eating soup |
15:51.55 | Leeds | jason_ukfsn: we may need to talk... |
15:51.56 | pie | unless it has got many vegetables |
15:51.58 | jason_ukfsn | pie - you've lost me there. How is a spoon better than the hosting? |
15:52.04 | jason_ukfsn | feel free to msg me Leeds |
15:52.14 | pie | then you might be better off with a ... chop-stick |
15:52.21 | Leeds | jason_ukfsn: keep up - you can't eat/drink soup with hosting |
15:52.22 | pie | rathergood.com/moon_song |
15:52.27 | pie | need speakers. |
15:52.29 | jason_ukfsn | I do! |
15:52.38 | Leeds | rathergood.com/<anything> |
15:52.40 | NisoDaemon | Pie in the spirit of keeping Jason on ou side please no longer speak to him in regard to hosting ;) |
15:52.53 | pie | No, we like it, it is cool |
15:52.58 | Leeds | pie: and flash :-( |
15:53.04 | pie | the spoon thing was just me being wierd |
15:53.14 | jason_ukfsn | ask vince or John - all upstream goes over spoons rather than ethernet and the rack is made from cutlery. |
15:53.30 | pie | any zeppelins in there? |
15:53.45 | pie | or Marmots? |
15:54.17 | NisoDaemon | Pie, please dont |
15:54.17 | jason_ukfsn | not on our side however I believe that RedBus operate a zeplin colo centre as their new 4th London site. |
15:56.11 | JD | jason_ukfsn: please tell me you don;t mean airship? |
15:56.16 | pie | Leeds: moon_song is the best IMHO |
15:57.05 | jason_ukfsn | JD - yes it's part of the new programme to provide business continuity in the event of a terrorist attack. |
15:57.28 | NisoDaemon | Until Indiana Jones come salong anyway. |
15:57.29 | JD | don't see that as an improvement if you ask me |
15:57.30 | jason_ukfsn | All connectivity will be via satellite and all power generated via helium explosions ;_ |
15:57.46 | pie | you can't explode helium... |
15:57.57 | pie | or was that the point? |
15:58.04 | jason_ukfsn | well I didn't way that the plan would work did I? |
15:58.12 | pie | Oh, OK |
15:58.20 | JD | pie: helium no, hyrdogen yes |
15:58.28 | pie | It could be powered by marmots. |
15:58.45 | JD | right I'm out of here for a bit |
15:58.50 | jason_ukfsn | the local shops have run out of icecreams! |
15:58.56 | NisoDaemon | JD Air run? :) |
15:59.11 | NisoDaemon | jason just how many have you eaten? |
15:59.17 | NisoDaemon | its only money... |
15:59.20 | NisoDaemon | monday even |
15:59.25 | pie | Marmots/ |
15:59.27 | pie | ? |
15:59.43 | pie | I am off to see pirates of the carribean |
15:59.47 | pie | later |
16:00.01 | jason_ukfsn | I've not had any today - that's the problem. |
16:00.13 | jason_ukfsn | I blame my kids of the excessive icecream consumption. |
16:00.28 | pie | we blame you for your kids |
16:00.32 | NisoDaemon | You have kids? you dont get sympathy, its you fault :) |
16:00.33 | pie | it is still your fault ;-) |
16:00.43 | NisoDaemon | you had the fun. now suffer. |
16:01.39 | NisoDaemon | "I love children, especially when they cry, for then someone takes them away. " |
16:06.08 | jason_ukfsn | children are best baked in a mushroom sause |
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16:19.18 | new2unix- | evening lurkers :) |
16:24.14 | new2unix- | tarragon: i was going to ask; why are you almost always up so early? |
16:25.28 | Tarragon | I have Lupus and so I sleep very little. Mornings are a good time to read. |
16:28.57 | nasrat | Tarragon: could be worse - you could have lycanthropy :) |
16:30.47 | nasrat | sorry I'm in a silly mood |
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16:42.23 | new2unix- | just popped back to say bye. seeya'll at the other side of the hour. adios |
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17:12.52 | NisoDaemon | i got left with half a dozen people that were all away. |
17:12.52 | JD | NisoDaemon: did you see my comment? |
17:12.52 | JD | wrt .bj |
17:13.02 | JD | http://www.opt.bj/nouvo_tarifs.htm#hebergement |
17:13.11 | JD | if you can read french |
17:13.33 | NisoDaemon | not a word. |
17:13.37 | NisoDaemon | Hearns can :) |
17:13.42 | NisoDaemon | he's almost a native |
17:13.48 | NisoDaemon | sorta |
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17:14.57 | Leeds | arse |
17:14.57 | JD | I just can write or listen to it |
17:14.57 | Leeds | stay here, you lot! |
17:14.57 | Leeds | nah |
17:14.57 | Leeds | you all left for a moment |
17:15.03 | NisoDaemon | its been doing it a lot |
17:15.07 | NisoDaemon | i blame pie. |
17:15.10 | NisoDaemon | he's not here. |
17:15.14 | JD | mmmmm pie |
17:15.37 | JD | not that pie |
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17:16.07 | NisoDaemon | ooooheeeer.ms |
17:16.30 | JD | windows.ms anyone? |
17:16.47 | Leeds | sod.ms |
17:16.50 | NisoDaemon | windows.fk |
17:17.05 | JD | drive.by |
17:17.06 | NisoDaemon | for those just returning: http://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-whois.htm |
17:17.18 | NisoDaemon | yes we know bj is there |
17:18.05 | NisoDaemon | both py and pl are valid but php aint :) |
17:18.11 | Leeds | sod.ms is a real site... |
17:18.34 | JD | grr drive.by has gone |
17:18.36 | NisoDaemon | hate.us |
17:18.43 | NisoDaemon | works on so many levels |
17:19.33 | NisoDaemon | aw = aruba? |
17:19.38 | agk | nice bit of spam last week |
17:19.40 | agk | "DEAR SIR/MADAM: I AM MR. DARL MCBRIDE CURRENTLY SERVING AS THE PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE SCO GROUP... $1 BILLION U.S. DOLLARS. I AM WRITING TO YOU IN CONFIDENCE BECAUSE WE URGENTLY REQUIRE YOUR ASSISTANCE TO OBTAIN THESE FUNDS..." |
17:19.55 | eye69 | agk: Haha |
17:20.00 | JD | boo.by |
17:20.15 | NisoDaemon | JD subtle |
17:20.18 | NisoDaemon | i like it |
17:20.36 | NisoDaemon | its-all.bs |
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17:20.49 | NisoDaemon | Leeds sit still. |
17:20.58 | Leeds | stop that, you lot |
17:21.05 | NisoDaemon | dodgy.cc |
17:22.23 | NisoDaemon | "Establishment of new ccTLDs" shiny article |
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17:24.12 | Leeds | will you lot make your bloody minds up? |
17:25.04 | eye69 | http://www.dynom.nl/stuff/though_question/ |
17:26.12 | JD | boo.by is available :) |
17:27.14 | Leeds | ibot x de en Wie heisst George W. Bush mit Vornamen |
17:27.46 | eye69 | I'm guessing it's "What is George W. Bush's first name?" |
17:28.21 | eye69 | I can't be for real...nobody can be that stupid... |
17:28.26 | eye69 | s/I/It/ |
17:28.49 | Leeds | ibot German |
17:28.49 | | ACTION doesn't mention the war |
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17:29.06 | Leeds | nah - it's got to be a photoshop |
17:29.28 | JD | eye69: bush is |
17:30.26 | Leeds | JD: good point |
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18:24.14 | JD | wb |
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18:24.36 | JD | wb |
18:24.39 | Leeds | my speaker has apparently melted/shorted/died |
18:25.01 | Xiaoqi | hihi |
18:25.08 | JD | hi nikki |
18:25.09 | Leeds | hodiho |
18:25.26 | Xiaoqi | hiya JD and Leeds |
18:25.28 | Xiaoqi | brb |
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18:25.35 | JD | hi Tarragon |
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18:26.55 | JD | bah |
18:28.56 | JD | http://freenode.net/news.shtml |
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18:56.51 | Cope | What did he(?) say? |
18:58.06 | eye69 | Wanted me to vote for them, more or less |
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18:58.59 | eye69 | I said that I wasn't on par with british politics, since I'm not a british national. |
18:59.24 | JD | ouch |
19:00.14 | JD | that probably wasn't the best thing to say to the BNP |
19:00.52 | eye69 | Nah, he just asked how that could be, since I had "a perfect british accent". Yeah, right... |
19:01.26 | JD | so are you a britsh national? |
19:01.49 | eye69 | No. I've only lived in the UK for 1.5 years...come from Sweden. |
19:01.57 | JD | ah okay |
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19:24.55 | Jenson | heya stephanb |
19:25.20 | stephanb | Jenson: heya |
19:28.36 | Jenson | BRB - rebboting |
19:34.01 | Jenson | back |
19:34.49 | Tarragon | wb |
19:34.56 | Jenson | ty |
19:34.59 | Jenson | grrr chcolate addiction! |
19:35.05 | Jenson | chocolate even |
19:38.29 | stephanb | now a stupid question : how can someone use the word "reoobting" on a linux channel ? |
19:38.37 | stephanb | rebooting |
19:39.38 | Tarragon | If you used MS and putty to access? |
19:39.59 | Jenson | stephanb: needed to use WinMX...and i dont have WINE |
19:40.10 | Jenson | Will boot back to linux when i'm done |
19:40.33 | stephanb | fair enough |
19:40.42 | stephanb | some apps won't work in wine |
19:42.19 | Jenson | stephanb: yeh i just dont have the bandwidth to d/l it, i thought i had it on DVD, but now i cant find it on there |
19:44.06 | stephanb | oho dl is nothing, getting the app to work in wine, let alone to install, is the challenge. |
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20:05.05 | Tarragon | Nope. That summoning spell did not quite work as it should have |
20:06.07 | JD | no |
20:07.44 | JD | grrrraaaarrrrrggghhhhh |
20:08.11 | stephanb | JD: whats wrong dude ? |
20:09.25 | JD | fscking summon spell doesn;t work |
20:09.45 | JD | and I'm hungry and I need to write a talk |
20:09.52 | JD | and it is getting dark |
20:10.37 | Jenson | JD: get food! |
20:11.03 | JD | Jenson: no |
20:11.33 | stephanb | JD wants to be a martyr of talk-writing |
20:12.10 | new2unix | Works wonders for me :) |
20:12.14 | new2unix | Hi all. :) |
20:12.38 | stephanb | new2unix: yo ! |
20:12.49 | JD | damn right |
20:12.50 | new2unix | stephanb: the discs are in the post. |
20:13.15 | stephanb | new2unix: aaaah |
20:13.34 | new2unix | stephanb: they left by first class mail today. should be with you in 3working days :) |
20:13.42 | JD | new2unix: cheers for that tip, I'll try after dinner |
20:14.31 | new2unix | JD: anytime dude. I have a library of invisible books on immaginary magic |
20:15.08 | new2unix | who else is up? Jenson: howdy? |
20:15.34 | JD | new2unix: past your bed time? |
20:16.59 | new2unix | JD: not quite. why do you want me out of the way? what evil plans have you cooked up for tonite in my absence? |
20:17.44 | JD | no, it was just you were asking who was still up |
20:17.54 | JD | like you thought it was past their bed time too |
20:18.25 | Jenson | heya new2unix |
20:18.37 | new2unix | hi'ya Jenson. |
20:19.56 | new2unix | bought a skipping rope today. but it looks unwelcoming so i'll be taking it back tomorrow. |
20:20.54 | new2unix | i'm not quite sure what i was expecting from a skipping rope but this one doesnt make me want to jump. Oh well. |
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20:30.10 | stephanb | Xiaoqi: hiya |
20:30.20 | Xiaoqi | hi stephanb |
20:30.35 | stephanb | Xiaoqi: how are things ? |
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20:31.16 | Xiaoqi | stephanb: its ok atm, thanks. Very hectic, but copable-ish |
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20:57.22 | cozmonort | hi room |
20:57.46 | new2unix | wrong channel. try #aol |
20:57.53 | new2unix | haha. hi cozmonort |
20:58.02 | cozmonort | hi new2unix |
20:58.22 | cozmonort | how have u been :) |
20:58.41 | Jenson | heya cozmonort |
20:58.45 | Jenson | BRB |
20:58.50 | cozmonort | k |
21:01.10 | agk | Leeds: I've updated http://wiki.vmlinuz.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/BletchleyParkInterestList to help people co-ordinate transport |
21:01.19 | agk | I'll announce it to oxlug |
21:01.45 | new2unix | agk: good work. :) |
21:03.19 | stephanb | agk: excellent |
21:04.44 | Jenson | right better |
21:04.59 | cozmonort | wb |
21:05.02 | stephanb | agk: if not done already, can we have a link on the glug website ? |
21:06.58 | Cope | Hello everyone. |
21:07.07 | cozmonort | hi Cope |
21:08.11 | Jenson | heya Cope |
21:10.15 | Jenson | i not# |
21:13.19 | cozmonort | cya |
21:13.38 | Cope | Hi Jenson |
21:26.13 | nasrat | evening all |
21:26.30 | Jenson | heya nasrat |
21:26.55 | nasrat | hey Jenson |
21:27.05 | Jenson | howz you and Lisa? |
21:27.18 | nasrat | k |
21:27.27 | Jenson | good good |
21:28.38 | nasrat | how about you |
21:29.25 | Jenson | mot too bad, my guinea pig died of heat yesterday, even though he was in the shade...had only had him a week :( |
21:29.30 | Jenson | s/not |
21:30.05 | nasrat | eep, not good. I think the gerbils are ok they aren't in direct sun and are deserty creatures I think |
21:31.11 | Jenson | my rabbit is ok though, he's dug out a trench thing under his hutch |
21:31.50 | Jenson | im gonna get some more guinea pigs, and move the hutch into an even shadier place, the first time i had guinea pigs they lived for years, but it never used to be so hot |
21:34.28 | nasrat | or it's *not* been this hot for quite some time... |
21:35.45 | Jenson | was fscking boiling in camden yesterday |
21:37.15 | cozmonort | r u planning on going camden again anytime soon ? |
21:37.59 | Jenson | not sure yet |
21:38.04 | Jenson | got no money |
21:38.06 | cozmonort | k |
21:38.15 | cozmonort | that never helps |
21:38.21 | nasrat | bah rpc worm out |
21:38.30 | Jenson | rpc? |
21:39.36 | nasrat | remote procedure call |
21:41.04 | cozmonort | i think im going to go get my hair cut tomorrow |
21:41.07 | nasrat | nah you're just not an old sysadmin with too many acronyms |
21:41.28 | new2unix | Jenson: http://securityfocus.com/news/6689 |
21:43.17 | cozmonort | call them up and say "I dont want to pay by direct debit" thats what i do |
21:43.49 | nasrat | anyway bed |
21:43.50 | Jenson | i think i'll go in the orange store, im better when talking to ppl than on the phone |
21:44.02 | cozmonort | yeah |
21:44.05 | Jenson | plus my dad thinks i should send my phone to get it sorted out |
21:44.09 | nasr_zZz | night all |
21:44.12 | cozmonort | night |
21:44.15 | Jenson | but last time i did that with one i didnt get it back for 3 weeks |
21:44.21 | Jenson | night Paul |
21:45.42 | Jenson | anyway time for bed |
21:45.46 | Jenson | night all! |
21:45.48 | cozmonort | how do u think i should get my hair cut, im not sure if i should cut it short and spiky or try doing it so i can grow it slightly longer |
21:45.52 | cozmonort | eh |
21:45.56 | cozmonort | goodnight |
21:47.28 | Jenson | if you grow it longer you'll get falling over spikes like i did, which can be cute....but i dunno lol |
21:47.54 | Jenson | goodnight then |
21:48.07 | cozmonort | goodnight :) |
21:54.45 | stephanb | bye everybody |
21:54.52 | stephanb | sleep |
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22:27.02 | Cope | Hi Leeds |
22:27.56 | Leeds | hi |
22:28.03 | Leeds | 37 degrees in here! |
22:28.45 | Cope | Gosh! Where are you? |
22:28.57 | Cope | I reckon is comfortable mid 20s in here |
22:28.58 | Leeds | at home |
22:29.56 | Leeds | my thermometer is showing 37... and I'm dripping |
22:30.33 | Leeds | I just went to pick a magazine up... and it was warm to the touch |
22:32.12 | Leeds | well... I could turn the light off... but then it would be dark... |
22:32.18 | JD | did increase he temp quite a bit |
22:34.55 | Leeds | which book? |
22:35.15 | Leeds | my computer speakers appear to have died, so my iPAQ is providing music :-) |
22:35.47 | Leeds | hmmm... is this not news? http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/030811/tech_microsoft_patent_2.html |
22:36.45 | Cope | Leeds> Its a book about the psychology of persuasion. |
22:40.04 | Tarragon | Leeds: Does that news story mean everything with plugins and applets is breaking that patent? |
23:08.30 | Leeds | Tarragon: I have no idea... I would imagine it's talking about ActiveX |
23:10.02 | Leeds | http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=ptxt&s1=5838906.WKU.&OS=PN/5838906&RS=PN/5838906 |
23:11.25 | Leeds | seems to be more like ActiveX and maybe Java than standard plugins... actually - the best match would seem to be the Java VNC client... |
23:12.31 | Leeds | it explicitly mentions OLE |
23:15.11 | gregj | Leeds: take me with you |
23:15.28 | Leeds | gregj: sure! meet me at Hendon Central in 5-10 minutes... |
23:15.36 | gregj | sure |
23:16.19 | Leeds | because your local Tescos is a bit far for me... |
23:16.30 | gregj | there is no tesco near me |
23:16.31 | gregj | :/ |
23:16.34 | gregj | thats the problem |
23:16.44 | gregj | i don't have a place to go to shopping at that time :( |
23:17.05 | gregj | fscking addiction |
23:17.22 | Leeds | I'm sure you can find someone on a street corner who'll sell you some |
23:17.40 | gregj | not in neck of the woods |
23:18.20 | Leeds | really? |
23:18.29 | Leeds | no drug dealers in Docklands? are you serious? |
23:19.27 | gregj | yes i am |
23:19.33 | gregj | i haven't seen any |
23:19.38 | Leeds | look harder :-) |
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23:25.59 | Leeds | really? |
23:26.01 | Leeds | why not? |
23:26.09 | Leeds | boom |
23:28.02 | Cope | 'Night night all. |
23:29.56 | Leeds | so, gregj... meeting me at Tescos? :-) |
23:32.45 | gregj | sure, if you are going to pass my place |
23:34.13 | Leeds | not planning to... might take me a couple of hours to get to your place twice |
23:34.29 | gregj | twice ? |
23:34.35 | gregj | N15 :-) |
23:34.43 | Leeds | unless you're going to make your own way back... |
23:34.45 | Leeds | N15? |
23:34.51 | gregj | my night bus |
23:34.56 | Leeds | ah |
23:35.51 | gregj | looks good |
23:35.57 | gregj | perfect even i will say :] |
23:36.14 | Leeds | well... you're wrong - it's KDE - broken by design |
23:36.35 | gregj | ? |
23:36.45 | gregj | you are not using it, how do you know |
23:36.55 | Leeds | "it's KDE - broken by design" |
23:37.09 | gregj | say that on #kde-devel |
23:37.17 | Leeds | why? |
23:37.24 | Leeds | I'm not a troll... |
23:37.38 | gregj | well, you may want to argue |
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23:38.56 | Leeds | hey - some weirdos are happy with it and good luck to them. doesn't mean I have to like the bloated bag of crap |
23:39.35 | Leeds | I mean come on... it's a window manager and a few applets, right? |
23:39.42 | gregj | surree |
23:39.57 | gregj | and thats why it is 300 MB binaries+graphics |
23:40.03 | gregj | 4x more apps than in gnome |
23:40.12 | Leeds | right - so you agree with me? it's a bloated bag of crap... |
23:40.15 | gregj | gnome is ,, hmm simple |
23:40.30 | gregj | no, it is not |
23:40.39 | gregj | you can install just KDE and basic stuff |
23:40.51 | gregj | it will be about the same size that gnome is with the same type of apps |
23:40.59 | Leeds | oh... |
23:41.01 | gregj | there is simply more apps in KDE, |
23:41.11 | Leeds | gnome is a (less) bloated bag of crap too |
23:41.23 | Leeds | less bloated because it's written in a sensible language |
23:41.33 | gregj | haha |
23:41.45 | gregj | gnome is writen in C, and object C |
23:41.52 | Leeds | object C? |
23:41.54 | gregj | this second one is even more crap than C++ |
23:41.55 | gregj | yes |
23:42.03 | gregj | go through sources |
23:42.12 | gregj | evolution fe is writen in 3/4 in objc |
23:42.18 | Leeds | what is object C? |
23:42.24 | gregj | some parts of gnome are written in C++ as well |
23:42.31 | gregj | i don't know exactly |
23:42.38 | gregj | some middle form between c++ and C |
23:42.53 | gregj | apt-cache search object C |
23:42.55 | Leeds | there's object-oriented C... but that's just sensible |
23:43.27 | gregj | |gj@nalesnik:~$ apt-cache search object C gcc |
23:43.27 | gregj | |gcc-2.95 - The GNU C compiler. |
23:43.27 | gregj | |gobjc - The GNU Objective-C compiler. |
23:43.27 | gregj | |gobjc-2.95 - The GNU Objective-C compiler. |
23:43.27 | gregj | |gobjc-3.2 - The GNU Objective-C compiler |
23:43.30 | gregj | |gobjc-3.3 - The GNU Objective-C compiler |
23:43.40 | Leeds | that's objective C |
23:43.46 | Leeds | which isn't what you said |
23:44.07 | gregj | so what it is |
23:44.18 | Leeds | objective C is the old NeXT language |
23:44.28 | gregj | hmm |
23:44.31 | Leeds | i.e. MacOS X |
23:44.37 | gregj | than they use c++ |
23:44.47 | gregj | they are using c++ for sure in gnome as well |
23:44.50 | Leeds | and - from what I hear - it's a lot nicer than C++ |
23:45.08 | Leeds | sure - there's some C++... but the *native* language is C |
23:45.22 | gregj | well, i don't like c++ personaly |
23:45.30 | gregj | but qt is very nice and very well written |
23:45.46 | gregj | it is a real perl |
23:46.02 | gregj | among others c++ toolkits |
23:46.51 | Leeds | perl???? |
23:47.14 | gregj | you know, the object that is shiny and so on |
23:47.16 | Leeds | what does perl have to do with anything? |
23:47.26 | gregj | true geek |
23:47.27 | gregj | ... |
23:47.29 | gregj | nc |
23:47.42 | Leeds | ah - you mean pearl |
23:47.49 | gregj | sure |
23:48.07 | Leeds | stupid :-) |
23:48.11 | Leeds | in fact... |
23:48.16 | gregj | :/ |
23:48.18 | Leeds | "gregj is just a stupid Pole" |
23:48.26 | gregj | what about this shopping |
23:48.32 | Leeds | what about it? |
23:48.43 | Leeds | you're not really going to come to Hendon - and I'm not going anywhere else |
23:49.19 | gregj | :/ |
23:49.41 | Leeds | it's 0049 and I have work... remember? |
23:50.14 | gregj | <PROTECTED> |
23:50.19 | Leeds | yeah, maybe I'd go as far as Swiss Cottage or somewhere - but no further - you live at the wrong end of London |
23:50.38 | gregj | no, you live at the wrong one :> |
23:51.26 | gregj | i am living at the end of real world |
23:51.26 | Leeds | I have a car :-P |
23:51.30 | gregj | there is nothing here |
23:51.49 | gregj | so you are lucky, but still at the wrong end of ldn |
23:51.54 | Leeds | there's plenty here |
23:52.09 | Leeds | ragh |
23:52.10 | Leeds | argh |
23:52.34 | Leeds | just realised that broken speaker means no DVD in my room as well as no TV |
23:53.33 | Leeds | anyway... |
23:54.10 | Leeds | I tell you... the Watford Tescos is the best 24-hour shop I've seen in this country... |
23:54.59 | gregj | :/ |
23:55.18 | gregj | but i am not living there anymore |
23:56.10 | Leeds | "but I don't live there anymore" |
23:58.05 | gregj | i was bad boy, and as punishment i have an english grammar lesson |
23:58.07 | gregj | :] |