| 00:03.03 | gregj | ech, so i am going to sleep :/ |
| 00:03.34 | gregj | Leeds: well, infact i am not living is good as well |
| 00:03.46 | gregj | i mean, i am not living there |
| 00:03.52 | gregj | because i am living |
| 00:03.53 | gregj | :] |
| 00:07.05 | gregj | his probably shopping now |
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| 00:27.10 | resuDaed | anyone still up? |
| 00:33.56 | stephen | yer, we're still sort of alive |
| 00:35.01 | eye69 | Very slightly awake |
| 00:42.08 | resuDaed | forget it :-) too tired |
| 00:42.10 | resuDaed | night all |
| 00:43.14 | stephen | sounds like a good idea to me, I'm off ... |
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| 05:01.36 | new2unix | moin all |
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| 06:51.20 | zachary | moin |
| 06:52.32 | Tarragon | Moin zachary |
| 07:11.54 | JD | http://www.debian.org/News/2003/20030811 |
| 07:12.00 | JD | alll invited |
| 07:12.28 | JD | (for the benefit of Leeds) |
| 07:59.03 | JD | moin |
| 08:10.31 | Tarragon | Damn! If JD had only told us a little earlier we could have rearranged the picnic which is six days away |
| 08:20.06 | eye69 | Morning |
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| 08:48.30 | pie | moin |
| 09:09.04 | nasrat | morning all |
| 09:12.09 | pie | morning |
| 09:22.19 | Xiaoqi | hi |
| 09:23.46 | pie | hi |
| 09:23.52 | pie | I am sooo bored today |
| 09:23.55 | pie | and tired |
| 09:28.12 | Xiaoqi | hehe |
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| 11:37.15 | Tarragon | Arrrrrgh I hate Virgin Mobile. They have failed to transfer my old number for 15 days. Each day they say they don't know when it will be completed |
| 11:44.14 | pie | lamerl |
| 11:44.18 | pie | lamers |
| 11:44.32 | pie | BT did that with my home phone number for 2 weeks |
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| 13:46.56 | pie | quiet here today... |
| 13:47.30 | nasrat | yeah |
| 13:47.45 | pie | I am very very bored |
| 13:48.04 | pie | I wanted to work on my e-commerce system, but I forgot the code is on my laptop at home... |
| 13:48.24 | pie | Up to much Nasrat? |
| 13:49.37 | nasrat | building stuff, considering sorting out some b0rkedness in XFree86 sdk |
| 13:49.57 | pie | Hmmm. |
| 13:50.04 | nasrat | being dragged back from lunch to do a build I was in at 09:00 to do |
| 13:51.10 | pie | bummer |
| 13:51.36 | nasrat | yeah |
| 13:51.54 | nasrat | and they are still not ready and I am v. hot as I jogged back |
| 13:52.05 | pie | was it the feeling of duty, or an actual person doing the dragging? |
| 13:54.00 | nasrat | they called me |
| 13:54.52 | pie | hit them... |
| 14:26.25 | nasrat | I'm told it's nearly time - over 6hours later than I expected :) |
| 14:34.06 | Leeds | the time has come, the walrus said... |
| 14:35.20 | nasrat | to talk of many things |
| 14:37.48 | Leeds | of drivers, source and sdks... of cabbages and kings |
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| 14:38.24 | nasrat | no of protocols and pings |
| 14:38.36 | formi | hello |
| 14:39.16 | Leeds | fair enough :-0 |
| 14:39.43 | formi | Leeds: ack |
| 14:40.39 | pie | Ick! |
| 14:44.00 | pie | we knew that ;-) |
| 14:47.06 | pie | what the hell is amuzed? Some sort of TV show? |
| 14:47.23 | formi | geeks running around!! |
| 14:49.21 | Leeds | virtually running |
| 14:49.41 | formi | yeah, it did sound to good to be true! |
| 15:09.50 | nasrat | ho humm, build postponed until tomorrow. |
| 15:11.34 | pie | and you got called back from lunch for this? |
| 15:11.47 | pie | Why are you building this X stuff anyway? |
| 15:11.59 | nasrat | fun |
| 15:12.04 | pie | Hmmm. |
| 15:12.08 | pie | sounds like it |
| 15:14.02 | Leeds | called from lunch at 0900? |
| 15:15.01 | nasrat | the X stuff is separate to the build I'm doing - that's real work |
| 15:15.43 | nasrat | Leeds: I was asked to get in at 09:00 to kick of a build of our stuff for a demo.... 7 hours later and they still aren't ready for me |
| 15:18.26 | pie | nice. have they said sorry? |
| 15:21.41 | nasrat | I've been doing other stuff, but it's annoying |
| 15:25.56 | Leeds | ranting is good... as long as it isn't about evil cyclists/car-drivers |
| 15:27.26 | pie | OK, I am getting ready to go so I can be out of here sharpish, later. |
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| 15:30.24 | pie | back again |
| 15:30.30 | pie | no going just yet |
| 15:32.19 | Leeds | this may be a silly question... but are you actually @linguaphone? |
| 15:32.36 | pie | yes, unfortunatly |
| 15:32.46 | pie | slowly roasting. |
| 15:33.00 | nasrat | roast pie |
| 15:33.07 | pie | Hmmmm, nice spin. |
| 15:34.07 | nasrat | now I have Dead or Alive in my head |
| 15:34.22 | pie | what is that? |
| 15:34.45 | nasrat | dodgy 80's band |
| 15:34.54 | pie | \Ah |
| 15:42.46 | pie | Right, noooow I am going. |
| 15:42.48 | pie | Later |
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| 17:02.14 | JD | hi |
| 17:17.10 | Leeds | ho |
| 17:17.32 | JD | silver? |
| 17:19.23 | Leeds | gold? |
| 17:19.24 | Leeds | what? |
| 17:33.23 | Jenson | heya guys |
| 17:36.21 | Leeds | evening |
| 17:36.31 | JD | hi |
| 17:40.43 | Jenson | howz you JD? |
| 17:42.30 | JD | tired |
| 17:42.34 | JD | how are you? |
| 17:44.02 | Xiaoqi | hihihi |
| 17:45.15 | JD | hi nikki |
| 17:45.42 | Jenson | heya Nik |
| 17:45.59 | Xiaoqi | hi JD and Jenson |
| 17:47.15 | JD | how is life |
| 17:47.43 | Xiaoqi | kinda weird |
| 17:47.45 | Xiaoqi | but ok |
| 18:00.24 | Leeds | weird? |
| 18:02.51 | JD | you know, strange |
| 18:03.57 | Leeds | I am aware of the meaning of the word... I meant how so? |
| 18:04.11 | JD | Star Trek |
| 18:04.27 | JD | what a pile of crap |
| 18:04.49 | Leeds | yes |
| 18:05.46 | Jenson | JD: bah is it crap today? |
| 18:06.13 | JD | Jenson: no, has been for the last 10 years |
| 18:06.33 | Jenson | lol |
| 18:07.50 | JD | simpsons on sky has a geeky theme |
| 18:08.07 | Jenson | i dont have sky |
| 18:09.00 | JD | why do computers on TV have a "send" button where "enter" should be |
| 18:09.35 | Xiaoqi | no idea |
| 18:09.51 | JD | "I've wondered what life would be like with marge" |
| 18:10.15 | JD | "it is like spending your life with your best mate that lets you touch his breasts" |
| 18:10.50 | Jenson | lol |
| 18:12.32 | JD | Mmmm curry |
| 18:12.43 | Xiaoqi | hehehehe |
| 18:16.21 | JD | hmmm my desktop has crashed again |
| 18:16.57 | JD | "your wifes virtue will remain as untouched as bill gates weight room" |
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| 18:35.36 | Leeds | getting to hometime... |
| 18:38.15 | JD | alvin is a bastard at times |
| 18:38.26 | JD | your money or your life - BBC2 |
| 18:41.17 | Leeds | ??? |
| 18:45.15 | JD | have you watching it? |
| 18:47.29 | Leeds | I have no idea what you're talking about - I'm still at work... |
| 18:47.32 | Leeds | going home now though |
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| 19:05.39 | stephanb | new2unix: your cds have arrived. they are toasting... |
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| 19:16.08 | armijn | 'lo |
| 19:17.04 | stephanb | armijn: goedenavond |
| 19:17.35 | armijn | hi stephanb |
| 19:17.50 | stephanb | hi armijn |
| 19:17.58 | stephanb | what's happening ? |
| 19:18.09 | armijn | just sweating here |
| 19:18.19 | stephanb | even in holland ? |
| 19:19.16 | armijn | ehr yeah, all of the continent |
| 19:19.30 | armijn | 34 degrees here for about...10 days or so |
| 19:19.44 | stephanb | well it's getting cooler now in britain, around 28..30C |
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| 19:20.51 | armijn | stephanb: will get cooler here, eventually... |
| 19:21.12 | armijn | powergrid is starting to fail, they can't use riverwater to cool the powerfactorythings...because it's too warm |
| 19:21.33 | stephanb | oh. not good |
| 19:21.56 | stephanb | is holland using mainly nuclear power stations ? |
| 19:22.09 | armijn | nooo |
| 19:22.15 | armijn | we had 2 |
| 19:22.27 | armijn | I think they are all closed down now |
| 19:22.37 | stephanb | actually it's got nothing to do with the hat source, it's more the design of the turbines and the cooling systems |
| 19:22.44 | stephanb | s/hat/heat/ |
| 19:23.30 | armijn | well, the fact that thye can't use the riverwater to cool the systems because it's too warm kind of implies that it's the cooling system, right ;) |
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| 19:24.44 | stephanb | 2nd principle of thermodynamics, you need a cold source as well as a heat source to produce mechanical energy |
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| 19:56.43 | cupis | JD: so what will be the topic of the September meeting? |
| 20:00.03 | JD | Leve Jensen is talking about RHCE |
| 20:00.35 | JD | Formi should be talking about FreeBSD and failing either of those, I will be giving a talk on TCP/IP |
| 20:04.19 | cupis | ack |
| 20:19.14 | stephanb | the future is not in tax evasion countries, but in copyright evasion |
| 20:19.50 | stephanb | welcome to balaclavia, the country where the RIAA and the MPAA can do nothing |
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| 20:32.54 | Leeds | so, battleships, python wap/wml, Limmud, housework? |
| 20:34.55 | JD | hmmm make up your mind |
| 20:35.17 | Leeds | I was after votes from the public |
| 20:35.47 | Jenson | grrr i just got into my religion debate with my mother |
| 20:35.56 | Leeds | ah |
| 20:36.04 | JD | probably better than your politcial discussion |
| 20:36.39 | Jenson | JD: marginally, my political views make me sound like a fascist |
| 20:36.46 | JD | I know |
| 20:37.39 | Jenson | what i meant was my religious views make me sound like a fascist |
| 20:37.42 | Jenson | I'm a Marxist |
| 20:37.57 | Leeds | ah, a Marxist fascist |
| 20:38.16 | Jenson | Leeds: erm yeh exaclty lol |
| 20:46.08 | Leeds | so no-one cares what I do with my evening? |
| 20:46.39 | cupis | Leeds: apparently :) |
| 20:47.11 | JD | Leeds: a nationalist marxist |
| 20:47.25 | Leeds | nationalist != fascist |
| 20:47.33 | JD | Leeds: I know that |
| 20:47.54 | Leeds | but Jenson apparently doesn't - or you're talking about different things... |
| 20:48.05 | Jenson | lol i do knkw |
| 20:48.12 | Leeds | anyway - how could religious views make you sound nationalist? |
| 20:48.13 | Jenson | being nationalist and marxist is confusing lol |
| 20:48.14 | JD | Leeds: I've spoken to Jenson before |
| 20:48.44 | Jenson | Leeds: well, i'm not antisemetic if thats what you're thinking |
| 20:49.00 | Leeds | well... that's a relief... |
| 20:49.11 | Leeds | means I don't have to kick your arse |
| 20:50.50 | JD | hmmm |
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| 20:54.48 | Leeds | he's back! |
| 20:55.06 | Jenson | heya stephanb |
| 20:55.10 | stephanb | who's back ? |
| 20:55.19 | stephanb | heya Jenson |
| 20:55.43 | Leeds | governor Arnie! |
| 20:56.30 | stephanb | mwoooaaaaahahahahaha |
| 20:56.44 | stephanb | "ill be beck" |
| 20:59.17 | Leeds | I mean... he's only a pretend American, even |
| 21:03.27 | stephanb | dr strangelove |
| 21:06.05 | JD | the spy that shagged me |
| 21:15.54 | stephanb | JD: you have sexual fantasies with Peter Sellers in a wheelchair ? |
| 21:16.50 | JD | stephanb: damn yeah |
| 21:18.05 | stephanb | blody hell |
| 21:20.14 | Xiaoqi | hi |
| 21:21.36 | stephanb | Xiaoqi: hi |
| 21:21.49 | Xiaoqi | hi stephanb |
| 21:24.54 | Leeds | so... |
| 21:25.04 | Xiaoqi | so...? |
| 21:25.08 | Leeds | I've now had loads and loads of copies of a really weird piece of spam |
| 21:25.18 | Leeds | 1 mail offering: h |
| 21:25.19 | Xiaoqi | oh? |
| 21:25.20 | Leeds | argh |
| 21:26.52 | Leeds | 1 mail offering: Heroin, in liquid and crystal form. Rocket fuel and Tomohawk rockets. Other rockets (Air-to-Air), orders in batches of 10. Cocaine, buy 9 grams and get 10th for free. Gay-slaves for sale. Fake currencies, such as Euros and US dollars. widest range of child pornography and exclusive lolita galleries. |
| 21:27.24 | stephanb | jeez |
| 21:27.30 | stephanb | is this a joke ? |
| 21:27.31 | Xiaoqi | hmm |
| 21:27.47 | Leeds | with special offers on heroin, air-to-air missiles and free child porn thrown in |
| 21:28.15 | Leeds | I've had at least 20 copies of this |
| 21:28.21 | stephanb | well does the header tell anything realistic ? |
| 21:28.27 | murb|SK | sounds like a sting from us intelligent agencies. |
| 21:29.03 | stephanb | to see who's stupid enough to say "hey woaow, i'm interested ... " |
| 21:29.23 | Leeds | it does sound too stupid to be true |
| 21:29.33 | Leeds | and apparently from France... |
| 21:29.54 | stephanb | well did you traceroute the domains in the header ? |
| 21:30.16 | Leeds | yes |
| 21:30.17 | Leeds | France |
| 21:30.36 | stephanb | thing is, i don't know if there's even a point contacting anybody, it's not like a website that you can ask to get shut down |
| 21:30.40 | Leeds | the domain being advertised is registered from Bangkok |
| 21:30.56 | Leeds | there is a website - I've just not been brave/foolish enough to visit it |
| 21:31.32 | stephanb | what's this internet "taskforce" thing that works with the police in the uk |
| 21:31.40 | Leeds | it's a phpbb board :-) |
| 21:31.41 | stephanb | shouldn't they have a look at it |
| 21:32.27 | Leeds | well... I'm not going to register on the board... |
| 21:32.41 | Leeds | and it still sounds far too silly to be true |
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| 21:33.45 | Leeds | ah - here's our legal expert |
| 21:34.01 | JD | yep |
| 21:34.11 | JD | how can I help |
| 21:34.13 | Leeds | so what do you think |
| 21:34.14 | Leeds | ? |
| 21:34.26 | JD | to what? |
| 21:34.32 | Leeds | about this 'ere spam |
| 21:34.47 | JD | last I saw was [22:25] < Leeds> I've now had loads and loads of copies of a really weird piece of spam |
| 21:34.50 | Leeds | I've had over 20 copies of it... |
| 21:34.56 | Leeds | 1 mail offering: Heroin, in liquid and crystal form. Rocket fuel and Tomohawk rockets. Other rockets (Air-to-Air), orders in batches of 10. Cocaine, buy 9 grams and get 10th for free. Gay-slaves for sale. Fake currencies, such as Euros and US dollars. widest range of child pornography and exclusive lolita galleries. |
| 21:35.00 | Leeds | with special offers on heroin, air-to-air missiles and free child porn thrown in |
| 21:35.06 | stephanb | no, if i were you i would rat the info to the "internet taskforce" |
| 21:35.09 | stephanb | http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/crimpol/crimreduc/internet/ |
| 21:35.27 | JD | Leeds: I would assum ethat it is a joke |
| 21:35.38 | stephanb | there may be better people to talk to, but i'd have to ask a guy from the met |
| 21:35.45 | JD | perhaps in bad taste, but a joke none the less |
| 21:36.13 | Leeds | JD: right - except there is actually a site at the advertised domain... "The Underworld Entrepreneurs Forum" |
| 21:36.21 | stephanb | even if it's a joke, Mr John Doe is not gonna be happy when his little 9 yo daughter reads *that* in her AOL email... |
| 21:36.23 | JD | what domain |
| 21:36.40 | Leeds | darkprofits.net - yes, really |
| 21:37.34 | JD | registered to someone in bangkok |
| 21:37.38 | Leeds | yes |
| 21:37.49 | JD | not very much UK police can do about it |
| 21:38.01 | Leeds | spam is coming, apparently, from a machine in France |
| 21:38.26 | stephanb | well you can at least send an "abuse" message to the french isp |
| 21:38.47 | JD | abuse@twtelecom.net host one or more NS servers |
| 21:39.09 | Leeds | like they'll listen... |
| 21:39.33 | JD | North America Internet Exchange, Inc. ASN-NAIX-NET-01 (NET-63-246-128-0-2) |
| 21:39.34 | JD | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.37 | JD | they host another |
| 21:40.25 | JD | and the website |
| 21:40.53 | JD | so the website is hosted in the US |
| 21:42.52 | stephanb | Leeds: do you want me to ask that guy when i bump into him (he's probably on holiday now) ? |
| 21:47.09 | stephanb | but as JD says, I doubt the police is even remotely interested |
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| 21:50.55 | Leeds | I doubt anyone will care |
| 21:54.52 | stephanb | Leeds: it seems that what the gov is obsessed about is child pornography, IWF same : http://www.iwf.org.uk/index.html |
| 21:55.27 | Leeds | that's the thing - it's child porn, drugs, and terrorist weapons - obviously designed to push buttons |
| 21:55.43 | JD | clearly a hoax |
| 21:56.11 | JD | question is, are they making money and how? |
| 22:01.24 | Leeds | I approve of a song which contains "I saw two shooting stars last night - I wished on them, but they were only satellites. It's wrong to wish on space hardware..." |
| 22:05.51 | Leeds | "It's not against any religion to want to dispose of a pidgeon" |
| 22:06.13 | Leeds | or the correct spelling... |
| 22:06.29 | Jenson | pigeon |
| 22:06.48 | Leeds | yes |
| 22:12.20 | JD | what song? |
| 22:19.45 | Jenson | right, time for sleep |
| 22:19.47 | Jenson | night guys |
| 22:21.23 | Leeds | JD: which one? |
| 22:21.28 | Leeds | night Jenson |
| 22:21.34 | Jenson | bight Leeds |
| 22:21.41 | Jenson | s/night |
| 22:21.57 | Leeds | error: unexpected end of pattern |
| 22:23.34 | Leeds | JD: the first one is A New England, the second is Poisoning Pigeons in the Part, obviously |
| 22:24.45 | stephanb | Leeds: the nazis started by sending hygenist messages against animals carrying diesases, rats. etc... |
| 22:25.05 | Leeds | stephanb: if you say so... what's your point? |
| 22:25.10 | stephanb | then they started to worry about mental illness |
| 22:25.27 | stephanb | then they moved on to gays, gypsies and jews |
| 22:25.34 | Leeds | really? |
| 22:25.39 | stephanb | yes |
| 22:25.59 | stephanb | see the remarkable movie "the architecture of doom" |
| 22:26.15 | Leeds | you mean they didn't set out to cleanse the blood of the race? |
| 22:26.33 | stephanb | they didn't start that way |
| 22:26.50 | Leeds | maybe not publically |
| 22:26.59 | Leeds | or publicly |
| 22:27.25 | stephanb | oh yes they went publicly with antisemitism and stuff, and comparing jews to "the rats" |
| 22:27.31 | Leeds | I know |
| 22:27.57 | stephanb | but the way it started was with pseudo-medical hygenist "cleansing" messages |
| 22:28.01 | Leeds | anyway - since the song to which I refered is by an American Jewish comedy singer of the 1950's and 60's - I'm not worried |
| 22:28.13 | stephanb | oooooh right |
| 22:28.15 | stephanb | :-D |
| 22:28.20 | stephanb | well i'm off |
| 22:28.30 | Leeds | g'night |
| 22:28.46 | stephanb | don't buy too many missiles off that website |
| 22:28.58 | stephanb | nite nite |
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| 22:29.40 | Leeds | but if you buy more than 10 they throw in a shoulder-launched missile! |
| 22:41.01 | Leeds | "Everybody's got something to hide, 'cept for me and my monkey" |
| 22:41.02 | JD | better than a shoulder launching missile |
| 22:41.14 | JD | hmmm rings a bell |
| 22:41.27 | JD | don;t now why |
| 22:41.33 | JD | well night |
| 22:42.19 | Leeds | Beatles... |
| 22:42.20 | Leeds | g'night |
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