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| 05:11.14 | new2unix | moin |
| 05:11.24 | nasrat | morning |
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| 06:47.48 | Tarragon | Moin zachary |
| 06:54.46 | zachary | moin Tarragon |
| 07:12.15 | highbury | morning |
| 07:22.17 | JD | moin |
| 07:36.02 | zachary | highbury: Thought you were back in Bristol? |
| 07:36.53 | highbury | I am, staying with a work colleague, with ADSL in my bedroom, .. just getting dressed before going into work |
| 07:42.55 | highbury | ok, I'm of cya later guys |
| 07:47.53 | zachary | brb |
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| 08:06.31 | cup_ | morning |
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| 09:49.15 | cup | Right setting up a home network, is using iptable secure enough? Or should I use a firewall app? |
| 09:49.52 | Tarragon | Depends on how confident you are at setting up the rules. |
| 09:50.37 | cup | complete beginner but I assumed there would start scripts for the basic ssh, http stuff. |
| 09:51.09 | Tarragon | What distro? |
| 09:51.30 | nasrat | cup: your distro may have some else http://www.linux-firewall-tools.com/linux/firewall/index.ht |
| 09:51.35 | nasrat | ml |
| 09:52.37 | cup | debian |
| 09:53.45 | nasrat | they advise you write your own script IIRC, there is a init script which uses iptables-restore but the packager advises against it |
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| 10:32.59 | resuBitch | Helloooo. |
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| 10:35.54 | Tarragon | Hi |
| 10:36.02 | resuDaed | hi Tarragon |
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| 10:39.05 | resuBitch | hi tarragon |
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| 10:39.13 | resuBitch | I'm in south africa!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 10:39.28 | Tarragon | Fantastic. |
| 10:45.50 | resuBitch | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:45.56 | resuBitch | oops |
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| 10:49.12 | resuDaed | eh? |
| 10:54.53 | resuDaed | so 1 week from today? |
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| 11:43.46 | Xiaoqi | morning all |
| 12:24.07 | JD | hi |
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| 13:10.29 | dankolb | 'lo |
| 13:13.02 | Xiaoqi | hi dankolb |
| 13:29.07 | JD | hi |
| 13:30.15 | nasrat | gah it's too quiet today |
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| 13:34.19 | cup | ` |
| 13:36.04 | nasrat | dankolb: not you just the entire days been ppl lurking |
| 13:52.46 | nasrat | murble: back in uk? |
| 13:52.55 | murble | yeah |
| 13:52.57 | murble | i'm ill though. |
| 13:54.17 | Leeds | ill... or sick? |
| 13:55.28 | murble | well eating and drinking even water seems to have bad effect, also random aches |
| 13:55.55 | Leeds | okay... sick |
| 13:55.59 | Leeds | um |
| 13:56.00 | Leeds | ill :-( |
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| 16:53.04 | dankolb | Hi resuBitch |
| 16:53.20 | resuBitch | Hi Dan |
| 16:53.30 | resuBitch | Katy says hi |
| 16:53.38 | resuBitch | And Liz, a friend |
| 16:54.26 | resuBitch | How are you sweet? |
| 16:55.00 | dankolb | Hi to everyone. |
| 16:55.10 | dankolb | I'm okay - going back to Uni in September. |
| 16:55.16 | dankolb | How did examstuff go? |
| 16:55.42 | resuBitch | I got the grades i wanted. :) |
| 16:55.55 | resuBitch | Though not good enough for me. :()) |
| 16:56.20 | resuBitch | Am in South Africa atm |
| 16:56.51 | dankolb | Oooh. Is it nice there ATM? |
| 16:56.56 | dankolb | Well done, anyway :) |
| 16:57.55 | resuBitch | Thanx. :) |
| 16:58.30 | resuBitch | It's great here, very different |
| 16:58.53 | dankolb | So you're off to Aberdeen in September/October? |
| 17:01.03 | resuBitch | I got in, but have some stuff to think about |
| 17:01.07 | resuBitch | Might not go. |
| 17:01.36 | dankolb | Ah :-/ |
| 17:01.52 | dankolb | So got other plans, then? |
| 17:02.12 | resuBitch | Yeah, for the while ne way. :) |
| 17:02.19 | resuBitch | You looking forward to going back? |
| 17:04.50 | resuBitch | to university |
| 17:08.20 | Leeds | dankolb: all sorted out then? |
| 17:09.47 | dankolb | Yeah - should be good. |
| 17:10.02 | dankolb | Leeds: Yep - acceptance form is in the post to the University. |
| 17:11.35 | resuBitch | where do you get the acceptance form from?? |
| 17:11.37 | resuBitch | ucas? |
| 17:20.13 | dankolb | Nah - UCL sent one - I'm not going through ucas |
| 17:20.48 | gregj | is lwn.net working now for anyone ? |
| 17:21.15 | gregj | oh, its back :] |
| 17:22.43 | dankolb | It's working for you :) |
| 17:23.27 | gregj | sure it is |
| 17:28.07 | Leeds | not working for me... |
| 17:28.08 | JD | it was out for a bit |
| 17:28.21 | gregj | Leeds: try to refresh it few times |
| 17:28.24 | gregj | i guess server is busy |
| 17:29.51 | Leeds | yeah |
| 17:29.56 | Leeds | it's talking to me now |
| 17:30.26 | Leeds | very busy with the SCO stuf |
| 17:30.41 | Leeds | I should point out that I found where that code came from in Linux for myself :-) |
| 17:31.25 | gregj | if you have sco-s sources somewhere :-) |
| 17:33.44 | gregj | Leeds: give guys a hint on lkml |
| 17:34.19 | gregj | yep |
| 17:34.55 | agk | [just with incorrect attributions in the comments] |
| 17:34.56 | Leeds | gregj: do you really think they need a hint? |
| 17:35.40 | gregj | so far not even a bit was removed, and part of this information is public now for few weeks |
| 17:35.53 | gregj | this article is just an gathered information in one place |
| 17:36.14 | agk | some has been removed - apparently for unrelated reasons |
| 17:36.51 | agk | (e.g. BSD-licensed arch/ia64/sn/io/ate_utils.c) |
| 17:37.30 | gregj | i am really suprised that they copied malloc code over |
| 17:37.55 | gregj | it is not something hard to write |
| 17:38.37 | dankolb | hi agk |
| 17:40.06 | Leeds | who says they copied malloc code over? |
| 17:40.16 | Leeds | the only side-by-side is a comment :-) |
| 17:43.19 | Leeds | ah... LWN have been slashdotted |
| 17:43.30 | gregj | :] |
| 17:44.10 | Leeds | since - AFAIK - they don't pay for their bandwidth... that's a good thing for them - maybe get some more members :-) |
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| 17:50.29 | Leeds | oh no |
| 17:50.42 | Leeds | that new worm is using various e-mail addresses of mine :-9 |
| 17:50.43 | Leeds | :-( |
| 17:55.24 | gregj | none of mine so far |
| 17:55.38 | Leeds | I've had about 12 copies this afternoon |
| 17:56.14 | Leeds | fortunately, it has a trivial signature in the headers... so I've taught procmail about it |
| 17:56.29 | Leeds | oh bugger |
| 17:56.36 | dankolb | Foodtime! |
| 17:56.38 | Leeds | I just got it *bounced* to me :-( |
| 17:56.50 | gregj | hyhy |
| 17:58.27 | agk | nasty those things. happened to someone at sistina, and they ended up having to change their email address |
| 17:58.35 | gregj | which option did you used to filter it out from headers ? |
| 17:58.43 | gregj | just a match or something else |
| 17:59.41 | Leeds | yeah |
| 17:59.42 | Leeds | * |
| 18:00.30 | gregj | :=) |
| 18:00.53 | Leeds | :0: |
| 18:00.53 | Leeds | * HELO VAKULAW2K |
| 18:04.21 | gregj | pingus is a great game |
| 18:04.41 | gregj | at least untill i will have 3d card, best i've ever seen |
| 18:04.41 | gregj | :] |
| 18:04.45 | Leeds | did you see DHTML Lemmings? |
| 18:04.52 | gregj | nope |
| 18:06.19 | Leeds | why not? |
| 18:07.01 | gregj | hehe |
| 18:07.13 | gregj | i've never seen them |
| 18:07.16 | gregj | thats why |
| 18:07.54 | Leeds | ibot google for dhtml lemmings |
| 18:09.59 | Leeds | there is that, yes |
| 18:21.05 | gregj | hihi, konqy segfaults on this page |
| 18:21.14 | Leeds | oops |
| 18:21.16 | Leeds | hometime |
| 18:21.27 | gregj | home sux |
| 18:33.06 | zachary | What gregj, not as many toys at home? |
| 18:41.24 | gregj | zachary: :] |
| 18:51.10 | zachary | So, I take it as a yes. |
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| 18:53.00 | stephanb | new2unix: have the cds arrived ? |
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| 18:53.56 | zachary | gotta go, bye. |
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| 19:05.15 | stephanb | Leeds: yo ! |
| 19:05.21 | Leeds | yee! |
| 19:07.31 | stephanb | Leeds: aaaaah |
| 19:07.44 | Leeds | ooh |
| 19:07.47 | stephanb | -- very high level talk on this chan |
| 19:13.52 | stephanb | aaaaaargh M&S |
| 19:15.01 | Leeds | ? |
| 19:15.42 | dankolb | Underwear salad |
| 19:16.34 | Leeds | yes |
| 19:17.31 | stephanb | dankolb: male or female underwear ? |
| 19:18.07 | gregj | Leeds: this history yesterday was great |
| 19:18.21 | stephanb | gregj: what history ? |
| 19:18.22 | Leeds | gregj? |
| 19:19.47 | Leeds | gregj: what history? |
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| 19:28.37 | Leeds | gregj: did you mean Sunday? |
| 19:39.21 | gregj | Leeds: no, yesterday you gave me a link just before you left channel |
| 19:39.45 | Leeds | which one? |
| 19:40.02 | Leeds | the American in London one? |
| 19:40.19 | gregj | yep |
| 19:40.36 | Leeds | thought you might like it... |
| 19:41.17 | Leeds | it seemed to suit you :-) |
| 19:41.31 | gregj | hmm |
| 19:41.45 | gregj | except one small detail, you've ommited |
| 19:41.52 | gregj | i am not so fluent in english |
| 19:42.04 | gregj | most of those girls will just laugth their heads off |
| 19:42.53 | Leeds | don't worry - they'd laugh just as much at a Yank |
| 19:43.42 | Leeds | that's the point |
| 19:44.01 | stephanb | Leeds: gimme the link pleeeeze |
| 19:44.44 | Leeds | gregj: got it to hand? I don't... I found it on slashdot |
| 19:45.16 | gregj | i don't have it anymore |
| 19:45.39 | Leeds | hmmm... I msg-ed it to you, right? |
| 19:45.51 | Leeds | so ibot won't know it |
| 19:45.57 | Leeds | I wonder if google does :-) |
| 19:46.14 | Leeds | ibot google for American london journal |
| 19:46.18 | stephanb | ?? search on slashdot, any keyword idea ? |
| 19:46.43 | Leeds | it was someone's sig... |
| 19:46.57 | Leeds | ibot google for American london journal colin |
| 19:47.09 | Leeds | that's it - the first one :-) |
| 19:47.37 | Leeds | he's a funny guy... |
| 20:02.21 | stephanb | it is indeed quite funny |
| 20:02.38 | Leeds | Jenson|Away: you might like that stuff |
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| 20:06.32 | huggie | http://gllug.org.uk/ gives an HTTP 500 |
| 20:06.39 | huggie | Is that expected? |
| 20:06.46 | Leeds | no |
| 20:06.57 | huggie | And www.gllug.org.uk (as Chanserv tells me) doesn't resolve. |
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| 20:07.23 | Leeds | we know that one |
| 20:07.25 | Leeds | hey xander |
| 20:08.17 | huggie | Es ist geborked! |
| 20:08.23 | xander | hello : just fiddling with different clients (xchat, ksirc) seeign which I prefer ;-) |
| 20:08.27 | Leeds | indeed |
| 20:08.39 | gregj | xander: irssi is the perfect one |
| 20:08.47 | gregj | xander: and for GUI, kopete :-) |
| 20:08.56 | xander | LOL, not had a fiddle, I shall try that next |
| 20:09.22 | gregj | 11a13n04d 12u11s13e00s 09c00o11l09o00r09s |
| 20:10.10 | huggie | How come you guys didn't move when lilo started begging for money? |
| 20:10.47 | gregj | did it ? |
| 20:10.49 | gregj | when ? |
| 20:11.00 | xander | I am procrastinating heavily. I have lots of work to do and have found lots of other exciting things to do. |
| 20:11.13 | cupis_ | gregj: lilo the maintainer of freenode, not lilo the bootloader |
| 20:11.33 | gregj | oh |
| 20:11.49 | Leeds | huggie: we weren't really all that active until after he quietened down a bit |
| 20:12.45 | huggie | He quietens down? Wow. I wasn't sure that was possible. |
| 20:13.21 | Leeds | haven't actually heard him begging out loud for a long time |
| 20:20.05 | huggie | Yay someone (possibly JD) fixed it. |
| 20:20.33 | huggie | Steve (highbury) doesn't do grammar does he? |
| 20:20.42 | JD | huggie: I did nothing |
| 20:21.09 | huggie | Hrm. |
| 20:22.01 | Leeds | JD: take the credit, man :-) |
| 20:22.29 | JD | Leeds: okay I am responsible for all that is good in the world |
| 20:22.52 | Leeds | now there's that Debian attitude I recognise! :-) |
| 20:22.58 | xander | coleslaw??? Tigerr demands chicken with menaces... |
| 20:23.18 | JD | huggie: ignore Leeds he is just bitter |
| 20:23.21 | JD | :) |
| 20:23.38 | Leeds | I'm not bitter! I have coleslaw! |
| 20:23.58 | JD | and slackware :) |
| 20:24.11 | Leeds | yes! |
| 20:34.37 | dankolb | Hi huggie, xander |
| 20:34.55 | huggie | eh oh |
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| 20:38.57 | Leeds | evening axelS |
| 20:39.13 | axelS | hoi |
| 20:39.38 | dankolb | And hi axelS |
| 20:40.01 | *** part/#gllug xander (~xander@openapps.harkness.co.uk) |
| 20:40.22 | axelS | hi dan |
| 20:42.57 | axelS | anyone running *cough* rh9 by any chance? |
| 20:43.08 | Leeds | ha ha ha |
| 20:43.18 | axelS | i knew it :) |
| 20:43.38 | nasr_away | axelS: see my onlist reply but ayo.freshrpms.net or fedora.mplug.org either apt or yum |
| 20:43.51 | axelS | thx |
| 20:44.02 | eye69 | dankolb: Have you pulled what you wanted? |
| 20:52.04 | axelS | nasr_away: thanks ever so much mate! just the ticket ;D |
| 20:57.40 | dankolb | eye69: Not yet. Why? Did you want to turn off Apache? |
| 20:59.01 | eye69 | dankolb: I prefer to not host illegal stuff for great lengths of time. |
| 20:59.31 | dankolb | Ahh.....well, I have a static IP address, if you want to restrict access |
| 20:59.42 | eye69 | Sure. IP? |
| 21:00.48 | dankolb | 80.177.26.183 |
| 21:01.13 | eye69 | Ok, done. Thanks. |
| 21:02.09 | dankolb | Thank you :) |
| 21:12.45 | Jenson | hiya |
| 21:13.01 | Leeds | Jenson: did you see that link earlier? |
| 21:13.28 | Jenson | yeh |
| 21:13.36 | Jenson | not looked at it yet though |
| 21:23.23 | Leeds | http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesTitle/productCd-0764554166.html |
| 21:24.14 | Leeds | London for Dummies |
| 21:24.24 | stephanb | related links : |
| 21:24.31 | stephanb | britart for dummies |
| 21:24.38 | stephanb | britpop for dummies |
| 21:24.42 | Leeds | amongst other things, it contains: |
| 21:24.50 | stephanb | british royal family for dummies |
| 21:24.54 | Leeds | "tips on using double decker buses,[and] the Underground" |
| 21:25.22 | stephanb | "tips on how to order drinks in a pub" |
| 21:25.39 | Leeds | "Travel strategies for seeing it all" |
| 21:25.58 | Jenson | think i might scrounge thay off the library sometime lol |
| 21:26.00 | Jenson | sounds funny |
| 21:26.30 | stephanb | Leeds: how's your edition of Solaris for Dummies going ? |
| 21:26.51 | Leeds | heh |
| 21:35.43 | stephanb | Leeds: you know the edition of Lotus Notes for Dummies |
| 21:35.44 | stephanb | ? |
| 21:38.18 | Jenson | goodnight all |
| 21:44.22 | JD | hmmm I apear to have missed Jenson |
| 21:44.34 | Leeds | ? |
| 21:44.34 | dankolb | Poor JD |
| 21:45.30 | stephanb | 10 years of psychotherapy ahead for JD |
| 21:45.35 | dankolb | Not traumatised? |
| 21:45.46 | JD | dankolb: nope |
| 21:45.52 | dankolb | Oh good. |
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| 21:46.17 | Leeds | see the domain spam on the glluglist? |
| 21:48.57 | dankolb | Hrm. Do you know of any Midi->MP3 converters? |
| 21:49.01 | dankolb | (or Midi -> Wav) |
| 21:49.16 | Leeds | timidity |
| 21:50.35 | dankolb | That exports Wav? |
| 21:50.43 | Leeds | yes |
| 21:50.53 | dankolb | Heh. Pity I can't get it on OS X, then. |
| 21:51.16 | Leeds | really? |
| 21:51.28 | dankolb | Yeah. |
| 21:51.48 | Leeds | I think it's pretty much command-line... I thought OS X was largely BSD at that level |
| 21:52.19 | dankolb | No, I lie. |
| 21:52.25 | dankolb | Timidity++ is available |
| 21:54.18 | stephanb | timidity is purely cli application i would imagine it could be recompiled on os-x |
| 21:54.46 | dankolb | Grr. But due to an incompatibility with QuickTime, it says it doesn't convert MIDI |
| 21:55.11 | stephanb | timidity on its own is not enough, you'll need to download the sound samples, gravis or eawpats |
| 21:56.28 | stephanb | dankolb: you may not ne able to run timidity as a server for midi playback on macos (no alsa or oss) |
| 21:56.51 | Xiaoqi | hihi |
| 21:56.54 | stephanb | but timidity in the console should be able to convert midi to a wav file |
| 21:57.18 | stephanb | Xiaoqi: have you been midified ? |
| 21:58.01 | Xiaoqi | stephanb: midified? |
| 21:58.02 | Leeds | modified? |
| 21:58.08 | Xiaoqi | as in midi files? |
| 21:58.34 | Leeds | my phone is midified... |
| 21:58.36 | stephanb | midified instruments = old analog synthesizers modified to accept MIDI interface |
| 21:59.03 | stephanb | Leeds: meaning you can dial a phone number from Cubase :-) |
| 21:59.24 | dankolb | Bah. I need sound samples and stuff |
| 21:59.49 | Xiaoqi | ah |
| 21:59.50 | Xiaoqi | ok |
| 21:59.53 | stephanb | dankolb: yes, but they are neatly packaged in tarballs or rpms, with the timidity config file |
| 22:06.05 | dankolb | They don't seem to be |
| 22:08.20 | stephanb | http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=timidity-instruments&submit=Search+... |
| 22:09.19 | stephanb | http://www.stardate.bc.ca/eawpatches/html/ |
| 22:23.37 | Leeds | one of my mates is talking about his water being out and not being able to ping it... |
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| 22:33.01 | xander | :-) mmm I ripped all of those earlier this year - now play on demand. |
| 22:34.08 | Leeds | I'm enjoying that Sky have shown the whole thing up to (at this point) the start of season 5 - one at a time |
| 22:35.27 | xander | I was introduced to Buffy by a friend Darran, who used to be on Gllug. As a result I bought up to season 6 on DVD and am now halfway through 7 :-) |
| 22:35.47 | Leeds | heh |
| 22:36.06 | stephanb | bed |
| 22:36.10 | stephanb | bye everybody |
| 22:36.11 | Leeds | I've got one video box set (and one of Angel) which I won on the radio last year |
| 22:36.14 | Leeds | night stephanb |
| 22:36.20 | stephanb | Leeds: nite nite |
| 22:36.27 | Leeds | apart from that, I download them or watch them on Sky |
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| 22:36.55 | Leeds | that is, downloaded :-( |
| 22:37.24 | xander | I think it makes a huge difference if you see the first series |
| 22:38.00 | xander | Have you seen the pilot buffy episode with the few different characters? |
| 22:38.03 | Leeds | I've seen every ep now, AFAIK - filled in a couple of missing ones as Sky has done it |
| 22:38.18 | Leeds | not seen the pilot... but I did see most of the movie a couple of weeks ago |
| 22:39.05 | Leeds | and I've seen every ep of Firefly :) |
| 22:39.05 | xander | Willow in the pilot was a very different character, they made her vulnerable in different ways and I think not as smart. |
| 22:39.55 | xander | Oooh I have been thinking about watching that, I have seen stuff on the web about it but not seen an episode. I am just watching band of brothers that arrived today on dvd (ebay :-) |
| 22:40.22 | Leeds | firefly ranges from good to very very good... I'll get the DVD set in December |
| 22:41.06 | xander | Really! Can you give me an idea of what it is? I saw a couple of episodes of Angel and the set seems much smaller than Buffy. |
| 22:42.05 | Leeds | ah |
| 22:42.16 | Leeds | it's Joss Whedon does Western In Space... but for real |
| 22:42.32 | Leeds | that is, it's really a Western, and it's really In Space |
| 22:44.15 | xander | One of the things I really like about the Buffy DVDs is that Joss does a lot of extra material, there are a lot of commentaries on the episodes etc. Very geeky I know; however it paints much of it in a new light. |
| 22:46.04 | Leeds | the back story is that the Earth got used up, so humankind colonised a new solar system or galaxy (it's not clear), with lots of little settlements on moons/planets... and the central planets formed an Alliance and tried to 'unify' all the others. There was effectively a civil war, and the 'present' situation is that the Alliance are the government power, but a lot of places are beyond their reach |
| 22:48.15 | Leeds | the story revolves around a crew of a cargo ship who mainly do smuggling work - a couple of them fought together for the rebels, one is just a heavy, they have a natural-with-machines cute young mechanic, a whizz-kid pilot, a licensed whore (which is an honourable profession - apparently) and some passengers who end up signing up with the crew |
| 22:48.33 | xander | It sounds quite star warsy (without Jar Jar :-) |
| 22:48.51 | Leeds | there are similarities |
| 22:48.57 | Leeds | none of the force crap |
| 22:49.19 | xander | Any sort of Harrison Ford types or are we stuck with Luke Skywalker? |
| 22:49.35 | Leeds | the captain is pretty Han Solo like |
| 22:49.41 | Leeds | you saw the end of Buffy? |
| 22:50.18 | xander | Not yet, I have the episode but have 17-19 missing and do not want to watch the end before I have seen the rest |
| 22:50.23 | Leeds | ah |
| 22:50.39 | Leeds | did you see the end of the recent series of Angel? |
| 22:51.09 | Leeds | or... no |
| 22:51.39 | Leeds | anyway - the big bads in both Angel and Buffy were played by actors who were part of the core crew on Firefly and therefore had time on their hands |
| 22:51.57 | xander | On the Han Solo thing - just not terribly happy wth weak leads, So Sean Connery and not Timothy Dalton |
| 22:52.26 | Leeds | hmm... you should try it |
| 22:52.28 | xander | no I have only seen a couple of Angel and could not really get into it. I think because unlike Buffy I had not seen the begining, which is where I think a lot of work is done. |
| 22:53.40 | Leeds | well, Angel has completely changed the style and the point of the series a couple of times - and it's about to change again completely... to the extent that the last ep was described as the pilot for the next series |
| 22:53.49 | Leeds | uh... the next season |
| 22:57.43 | xander | Ooooh, I shall have to start from the begining. I normally end up watching these as I am working, which is handy. I shall try to find a new project long enough :-) |
| 23:00.27 | xander | The really strange thing about Band of Brothers was to see Ross from friends as an officer |
| 23:01.16 | Leeds | firefly is good because there are only 15 episodes or so (one is a double) - you should note that there are two orders of viewing, since they were shown in the 'wrong' order by the network... and that 3 of the eps haven't been shown in the US at all yet - they finished airing here a couple of weeks ago, and premiered in the UK and "Fox Latin America" |
| 23:01.30 | Leeds | I never watched Band of Brothers at all... I think I should have done |
| 23:02.03 | xander | Here he plays a totally ineffective and hated officer - poor guy getting typecast!? |
| 23:02.51 | xander | I think I will have to trundle - I have a job interview tomorrow :-) |
| 23:03.06 | Leeds | heh |
| 23:03.15 | xander | Great to talk to you. |
| 23:03.17 | Leeds | okay - g'night and good luck with the interview |
| 23:03.25 | xander | thanks. X |
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