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00:01.12highburynn folks
00:02.01Leedsnight
00:02.10dankolb'night
00:02.12gregjLeeds: and what is the status ?
00:02.17Leedsgregj: ?
00:02.24gregjphotos :
00:02.25gregj]
00:02.33LeedsI gave you the URL 50 minutes ago
00:02.43gregji was away
00:02.57gregjgot it
00:02.58gregj:]
00:04.47Jenson|Awaygoodnight everyone
00:05.56Leedshow weird... just put on TiVo recording of Red Dwarf (still on!) and it caught a second or so of Tony Hawks at the beginning from BBC7 before it turned over... Tony Hawks who, of course, is in early Red Dwarf
00:18.26dankolb'night all
00:53.29Leedsnight to anyone who's still awake...
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06:07.03giskardi'm looking for some help with htdig
06:09.08giskardmy fresh htdig setup seems to work fine, except that it seems to use case-sensitive search terms: "iplanet" returns no matches, but "iPlanet" does.
06:09.20giskardany idea what could be wrong?
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06:52.40JDHI
06:53.01eye69Hello
06:53.23JDcapslock bah
06:53.39eye69Blame on the time
06:53.46eye69Blame IT
06:54.06JDprobably
06:54.15JDI still can;t work out what I'm doing wake
06:54.27eye69Me neither
06:54.58eye69I have a host that is trying like hell to reach NTP servers, and I'm trying to figure out how to find out where it is.
06:55.06eye69Need to learn this SNMP business
06:55.39JDeye69: well done you have blaster
06:55.51eye69Isn't it sobig?
06:56.26JDhmmmm I can;t remember now
06:56.27JDI know it is one of them
06:56.50eye69Think it's sobig.f. Symantec info says it tries to reach NTP.
06:57.17eye69Well, I have a fully working NTP server setup so if they want to sync they can do it via that. No need to go externally.
06:57.59eye69Annoying HP switches could only sync via time (37/udp)
06:58.56JDeye69: if it is sobig then it uses addresses it trusts so you can't trick it
06:58.57JDit is time limited
06:59.52eye69No, I mean that I've blocked NTP through the firewall, and anyone that complains can use the provided server.
07:01.01eye69Should be easy enough to redirect the NTP requests though?
07:01.38eye69Provided that they haven't done it via signed requests
07:01.44JDeye69: I'm thinking that blocking outgoing  trafic by default is the way forward
07:02.16eye69Well, this is an ISP'ish setup, so that would yield loud shrieks
07:02.38JDcertianly smtp, http
07:03.08eye69Already have full virus scanning on the mailserver, and I currently block any in/out SMTP not to/from the mailserver
07:04.19eye69As soon as an infected machine pops up in the log their switchport gets chopped
07:04.36JDcool
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09:11.35Xiaoqimorning all
09:12.06eye69Morning
09:12.13Xiaoqihows you?
09:12.22eye69Misa tired
09:12.25Xiaoqiaww
09:12.28Xiaoqitired bad
09:12.40eye69Yes
09:13.07eye69It could have something to do with me not having slept yet
09:14.10Leedsoh, um... morning :-)
09:14.33eye69Morning Leeds
09:16.59Xiaoqihi Leeds
09:17.05Xiaoqieye69: why no sleep?
09:18.52eye69Been fiddling...implemented two firewalls, and have been configuring SNMP on 35 switches...doing the Cacti graphing now
09:19.14eye69Now I might as well stay up until tonight..no point in going to bed
09:19.28Leedsyou'll get jetlag otherwise...
09:19.41eye69Exactly
09:19.47Leedsor whatever it's called when you've not actually been on a jet :-)
09:19.51Xiaoqihehehe
09:19.53eye69:)
09:20.00eye69Geeklag?
09:20.01Xiaoqicoding-lag?
09:20.14Xiaoqi:)
09:20.52LeedsI like geeklag...
09:20.59Xiaoqiyup
09:21.01Xiaoqime too
09:21.22Xiaoqibrb
09:22.19Leedshmm... Channel 4 just edited Friends... took out a line like "I'm a hardass"
09:28.05Leedseye69: sometimes I'm glad I'm not a network guy :-)
09:35.17Xiaoqib
09:37.47Xiaoqiskiing in the summer? -artificiall snow?
10:16.01JDhi all
10:16.51JDagain
10:27.18dankolbMoin
11:12.22JDirc is evil
11:19.50dankolber
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12:19.10JDfinally had shower
12:19.19JDonly 2 hours late
12:45.07dankolb:)
12:56.11murblehas anyone played with the gigabyte 1U servers that you can down buy and linux? I'm considering buying an SR114RE, 1U 2 PCI 2 onboard intel ethernet 2 harddisk bays etc.
12:59.41dankolbNope, sorry. Only 1U machines we had at ex-work were PowerEdge 350s, and Netra T1s
13:00.57eye69I've only dealt with PowerEdge 1450 and Transtec
13:01.33eye69murble: You could check what Transtec want for their machines.
13:02.00murbleeye69: this is for me so i'm looking at cheapness.
13:03.50eye69murble: Ahh.
13:09.50LeedsXiaoqi: ceramic hill, carpet slope, grass end-area
13:20.07Leedshmm...
13:20.56Leedsparticularly not if Spurs are going to be losing to Leeds :-)
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13:22.32dankolbBah. Football.
13:22.56Leedsyes
13:40.28dankolbArgh. I have too much stuff on my desk
13:50.21Leedswho doesn't?
14:12.04dankolbSomeone with an empty desk. Next question :)
14:18.21Leedsif a tree falls in a forest and there are no cctv cameras to record it, does it make a sound?
14:18.48new2unixyes
14:19.00Leedsprove it?
14:20.27new2unixhow long do you have?
14:20.40axelS;)
14:20.45new2unixLeeds: there is no voice, no cry, no sound when nobody listens.
14:21.07axelShi folks
14:21.22new2unixhi axelS
14:21.37Jensonheya axelS
14:21.46new2unixaxelS: how's your RH9 box?
14:21.53new2unixhi Jenson
14:21.58axelSit's ok but i think i need to reinstall samba
14:22.37new2unixlatest release of Samba now supports Active Directory. woohoo. hah
14:22.40axelSand x just sucks the lifeblood out of my little mini-itx :( 32mb shared ram ain't good
14:22.42Leeds3?
14:22.48axelShmm
14:22.57Leedsnew2unix: samba 3?
14:23.03axelSnah it's 2.somthing
14:23.09axelSit locks up
14:23.18new2unixLeeds: yeah.
14:23.44Jensonheya new2unix
14:23.58Leedsis it rc yet?
14:24.08axelSbrb
14:24.16new2unixjenson hello. arent u supposed to be feeding your pets or something? hah
14:25.42Jensonheh, im at Alex's he's asleep aTM
14:37.59new2unixok. i'm off ya'll. off for a wander round at totty ham crt rd.
14:39.00new2unixLeeds: staples? arent they the ones who specialise in paper clips and such?
14:39.49Leedsoffice supplies, yes
14:40.06LeedsI need to buy some folders to take care of the flood of paper (bills and so on) in my flat
14:40.33new2unixLeeds: why not invest in a giant stapler?
14:40.39new2unixhah. bye all
14:40.50Leedsbecause that would lead to a tower of paper instead of a flood...
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15:06.03Leedshah
15:06.12Leedsinterview guest called it Radio 6, got corrected :-)
15:16.06dankolb:)
15:17.08dankolbUrgh. Inaterweb being fucking slow. Again.
15:22.31*** join/#gllug cup (alex@host81-132-36-247.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
15:25.10cuphelp! I am tring to set up a home network, from the server/router everything is fine but when I try accessing the the web from the home network, I get Destination unreachable ICMP packet back, I can see the packets going out on my dial up connection, any ideas?
15:31.50cupanyone there??
15:31.55dankolbHave you got default route set up on your non-router machines?
15:31.59dankolbTo point to your router.
15:32.12cupyes
15:32.27dankolbGot IP forwarding set up on your router?
15:32.32cupyes
15:33.10dankolbCheck - what is the default route set up as on your non-server machines?
15:34.14cupdefault 10.50.10.2     0.0.0.0     UG    0    0   0   eth0
15:34.31cupby typing route
15:37.41dankolbyep
15:38.37dankolbHm.
15:40.27dankolbIs your NATting set up correctly?
15:40.52cup?
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15:41.13dankolbYou need to set up Network Address Translation on your server
15:41.32dankolbOtherwise you won't be able to get out
15:41.38dankolbHi cupis
15:41.45cupishullo
15:42.13cupget out? The server is fine, I am using it now?
15:46.01dankolbYes, but from the workstations
15:47.28dankolbYou need to set up NAT on the server so the workstations can get out
15:48.19cuphm, using iptables and masquerading?
15:50.15dankolbIf you have to, yes.
15:50.39cupif I have to? Should I be doing it a better way?
15:57.04dankolbInstall OpenBSD :)
16:05.17gregjhehe
16:18.51gregjwhat does it mean "Are you through?"
16:19.02dankolbThrough with what?
16:19.13gregjdunno
16:19.18dankolb"Are you through" normally means "Are you finished"
16:19.18gregjjust a question
16:19.48gregjstrange
16:19.53gregjenglish is popierdolony
16:20.43gregj:-)
16:22.08gregjLeeds is back ?
16:28.45gregjword maytag got any meaning ?
16:28.52gregjor is it name of companu ?
16:31.04dankolbcompany name, probably
16:36.20Leedscontext?
16:37.36gregjmaytag repairman
16:38.10Leedsmore context
16:39.58gregj|Puddy: "You dumped me for some idiotic TV pitchman."
16:39.58gregj|Elaine: "Look, I'm sorry, Puddy. It-it was a mistake. So, let's just put it
16:39.58gregj|behind us, and we can continue like this never happened."
16:39.58gregj|Puddy: "Gee, I don't know. What if we're out somewhere and you see the Maytag
16:39.59gregjrepairman."
16:40.56Leedswell, since maytag is a home appliances company... :-)
16:41.37gregj:]
16:43.43Leedsit's 4.99 from Staples...
16:44.02gregjtoo much as for me now
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16:45.58gregji have to redesign database :]
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16:52.24gregjdear irc channel, i have another question
16:52.28gregjwhat is "dashboard compass"
16:53.28Leedsa compas... in the dashboard...
16:53.56gregjhhehehe
17:25.28dankolbWhy do you think it's named after a woman?
17:50.26Leedshmm...
17:50.32LeedsSerious Sam seriously slow
17:57.58eye69Serious Sam is cool
18:00.09Leedseye69: you play on Linux?
18:01.35eye69Nope. Been playing it on Windows earlier, but had lost my CD's when I wanted to run on Linux.
18:01.48eye69Need to find the media again.
18:03.33Leedshmm... 'coz I bought it this afternoon (TFE for 4.99 - they had TSE for 9.99 as well) and it runs very very very slowly
18:04.01eye69Ok. I guess you've checked your
18:04.06eye69Ok. I guess you've checked your GLX setup?
18:04.20eye69What graphics card?
18:04.58Leedsah yes
18:05.07LeedsI seem to have switched to glx indirect
18:05.09Leedsgood call...
18:05.21eye69Test with 'glxgears'
18:05.48eye6911288 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2257.600 FPS
18:05.54Leedsyeah
18:05.56eye69That's with P3/733 and GF4 Ti4200
18:05.57LeedsI'm not doing DRI
18:06.09eye69Ahhh.
18:07.54Leedshmm... got the radeon kernel mod loaded
18:09.28eye69Sorry, have no experience with newer ATI cards.
18:09.51Leedsit's the fucking kernel/X drm/dri disconnect again
18:09.53Leedsargh
18:10.03Leedsand I think I deleted my built X tree...
18:10.18Leeds[dri] radeon.o kernel module version is 1.1.1 but version 1.5.0 or newer is needed.
18:10.18Leeds[dri] Disabling DRI.
18:10.19eye69Argh
18:13.21Leedsback in a mo...
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18:15.30Leedsthat's better :-)
18:19.16new2unixibot new2unix
18:19.21rumour has it, new2unix is new to unix :), or new2linux
18:21.01eye69~status
18:21.01Since Thu Aug 21 23:59:59 2003, there have been 14 modifications, 58 questions, 24 dunnos, 1 moron and 110 commands.  I have been awake for 1d 18h 21m 2s this session, and currently reference 85216 factoids.  I'm using about 16120 kB of memory.
18:25.22new2unixibot forget new2unix
18:25.22i forgot new2unix, new2unix
18:25.42Leedseye69: how many frames did you say you got on glxgears?
18:25.57eye6920:05:39 < eye69> 11288 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2257.600 FPS
18:26.05Leedshmm...
18:26.06eye6920:05:47 < eye69> That's with P3/733 and GF4 Ti4200
18:26.12LeedsI only get about 1800
18:26.25Leedswith Althon 2GHz and Radeon 9000
18:26.27eye69What machine/card?
18:26.40eye69Ok, should get more than that...
18:26.44Leedsthat's Radeon 9000PRO with 128Mb of RAM - which is nuts anyway
18:26.56eye69Mine is 128MB too
18:27.32eye69Then again nVidia's drivers are very good, but one should think that you would get a higher FPS than me.
18:27.55LeedsI should probably get around to trying the closed-source ATI drivers...
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18:29.47dankolbHello JD.
18:30.09Leedswhoa
18:30.09JDhi
18:30.22Leedswhat happened to the rest of today?  I need to go out...
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19:09.22resuDaeddoes anyone know how to crank up gamma (or genreal brightness) on an intel 810 graphics card?
19:22.36dankolbmonitor brightness switch
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19:44.29stephanbanybody here knows portsmouth or southend ?
19:44.46dankolbthey're down south
19:45.29stephanbyes i can read a map thank you
19:46.52stephanbhav you been there, what's there to see ?
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20:33.59dankolbhttp://www.thehumorsource.com/picture-850.html
20:50.35axelSlooks like the dreaded memory leak has been fixed ;D wahoo!
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22:00.18Xiaoqievening all
22:39.55dankolbhi

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