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| 05:15.11 | new2unix | moin all |
| 07:46.33 | irvined | Morningl |
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| 11:04.02 | dankolb | Monin' |
| 11:05.35 | dankolb | Hm. P&N is at 8.15pm, not 7pm |
| 11:10.26 | dankolb | Hrm. And it's not even sure if tickets are still available *mutter* |
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| 11:11.24 | dankolb | Speaking of someone. Hi !Leeds |
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| 11:12.19 | Leeds | not quite sure what's up with that |
| 11:12.35 | dankolb | It's your ident |
| 11:20.45 | Leeds | yeah, probably |
| 11:22.05 | dankolb | Bye |
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| 11:39.52 | cup | Afternoon, how much should a cheap hub cost? |
| 11:43.11 | Leeds | ports? |
| 11:43.30 | cup | 4 |
| 11:43.36 | Leeds | 10-15 quid? |
| 11:44.02 | cup | where from? |
| 11:45.28 | Leeds | well... I can see a "Mercury 8 Port 10/100 Switch" for 15+shipping+VAT from aria |
| 11:48.15 | Leeds | maybe 20 quid... |
| 11:48.34 | cup | cheers |
| 11:49.32 | Leeds | 15+VAT for "5 Port 10/100 Desktop Switch " from RL |
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| 12:54.27 | sash | Hello Zach. |
| 12:54.42 | zachary | hey sash |
| 12:54.53 | zachary | how's it going? |
| 12:55.18 | sash | Hassle. How's the family? |
| 12:57.58 | zachary | Pretty good. Jess has the day off for her birthday. |
| 12:58.21 | sash | Happy Birthday, Jess. |
| 12:59.42 | zachary | I'll pass it to her when she wakes up. going through the gllug list moderation now. Lots of junk. |
| 13:00.58 | zachary | Gee we have just been subscribed to 1stPickPCHelp Yahoo Group. |
| 13:02.50 | zachary | and also the outlook-users-help group. |
| 13:02.53 | nasrat | does the confirmation not have details like original ip so we can lart the upstream |
| 13:05.21 | zachary | no, just the ftech and bult.co.uk mail servers |
| 13:07.46 | nasrat | any joy from abuse@ |
| 13:07.59 | zachary | Anyone need to jump start their love life? Love all this spam. |
| 13:08.53 | zachary | no, Large quantity from mailer-deamon@aol.com. |
| 13:09.16 | zachary | added them the "not allowed to post" list. |
| 13:26.24 | Leeds | so... does Andrew Orlowski have a personal grudge against Google or what? |
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| 15:57.36 | Clyphox | Moo |
| 16:00.27 | Leeds | woof |
| 16:02.56 | Clyphox | How goes it Leeds ? |
| 16:03.15 | Leeds | eh... |
| 16:03.24 | Clyphox | How are you? |
| 16:03.27 | Leeds | tired... busy... |
| 16:03.31 | Leeds | bored |
| 16:03.48 | Leeds | on hold at CityLink |
| 16:04.16 | Clyphox | hehe.. fun |
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| 16:15.37 | alch | ibot seen leeds |
| 16:15.37 | | leeds is currently on #gllug #handhelds.org. Has said a total of 16 messages. Is idling for 11m 49s |
| 16:15.58 | alch | anyone awake? |
| 16:17.43 | Clyphox | I |
| 16:18.22 | alch | hi I'm in glasgow my friend Steve (cope) says you are from Aberdeen |
| 16:19.25 | Clyphox | I am yeah :-) well.. not "from".. but I live here yeah |
| 16:19.49 | Clyphox | There is "#scotlug" which is glasgow based iirc btw.. |
| 16:20.11 | alch | interesting.. |
| 16:20.39 | dankolb | I thought that was Edinburgh-based. |
| 16:21.16 | alch | I am just testing my IRC connexion - not online for long =- too much wine to drinkX-S |
| 16:21.44 | Clyphox | dankolb: you may be right.. |
| 16:22.10 | alch | Cope says hello btw |
| 16:22.14 | Clyphox | :-) |
| 16:22.20 | Clyphox | dito |
| 16:23.44 | alch | Anyonw use grub? Is it pretty easy to get it to dual boot with windows? |
| 16:24.20 | Clyphox | lilo does "everything [tm]" I need it to do. so I have never bothered... sorry |
| 16:24.55 | alch | Ok |
| 16:25.07 | alch | Anyway - got to go. ttfn |
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| 16:31.36 | Leeds | what's a connexion? |
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| 17:07.08 | formi | allo |
| 17:08.33 | dankolb | allo? |
| 17:08.40 | Leeds | listen very carefully |
| 17:09.51 | formi | and you might hear Leeds thinking about being sarcastic |
| 17:10.09 | dankolb | Leeds?! Surely not! :) |
| 17:10.43 | formi | I was wondering what does on do with a core.xxx file? |
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| 17:11.50 | dankolb | Deletes it |
| 17:13.47 | Leeds | oops |
| 17:14.16 | Leeds | run file on the coredump... then run gdb (see man page) against coredump and binary - and it'll tell you approximately what killed the program |
| 17:15.00 | Leeds | anyway... where was I sarcastic? |
| 17:15.51 | formi | it was a preemptive strike |
| 17:16.37 | Leeds | dankolb: you know what I meant, didn't you? |
| 17:18.18 | dankolb | About what? The coredump? Yes. |
| 17:18.28 | formi | #0 0x4001cd46 in readproc () from /lib/libproc.so.3.1.6 |
| 17:18.38 | formi | not very helpful |
| 17:18.55 | Leeds | dankolb: no, the listen very carefully |
| 17:19.06 | Leeds | formi: no, that makes complete sense |
| 17:19.25 | Leeds | what was the coredump from? |
| 17:19.32 | formi | top |
| 17:19.49 | Jenson | heya dankolb, Leeds and formi |
| 17:19.50 | dankolb | Ah. Not sure. |
| 17:19.51 | Leeds | and this is - I assume - on Linux |
| 17:19.58 | dankolb | Erm. I go off now for a bit. |
| 17:20.01 | dankolb | Back later. |
| 17:20.02 | Leeds | dankolb: really? I'm disappointed |
| 17:20.06 | Leeds | and bye |
| 17:20.07 | formi | yes it is, mdk |
| 17:20.21 | Jenson | did i scare dankolb away? |
| 17:20.29 | Leeds | formi: and how did you break it? |
| 17:20.44 | formi | core.8882: ELF 32-bit LSB core file Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), SVR4-style, from 'top' |
| 17:21.09 | formi | ok, i log in with a user, then run top and flop core file |
| 17:21.22 | Leeds | what changed on the machine? or has it never worked? |
| 17:22.15 | formi | [its-formi@ns2 its-formi]$ ps aux |
| 17:22.15 | formi | Signal 11 caught by ps (procps version 3.1.6). |
| 17:22.15 | formi | Please send bug reports to <acahalan@cs.uml.edu> |
| 17:22.15 | formi | [its-formi@ns2 its-formi]$ |
| 17:22.28 | formi | and ps borks as well |
| 17:22.46 | Leeds | what's the context? |
| 17:22.49 | formi | i think it might have to do with msec, |
| 17:23.11 | Leeds | hello? what changed? did it ever work? |
| 17:23.19 | formi | the first times i logged in top would only show the procs being run by that user |
| 17:23.44 | formi | not the whole lot |
| 17:24.14 | Leeds | I don't know... but I suspect, and I think I remember hearing somewhere - and it would make sense here - that mandrake may limit proc access as non-root |
| 17:24.24 | formi | i suppose that is a "security" extra |
| 17:24.30 | Leeds | yes, I think so |
| 17:28.24 | Leeds | of course it breaks whatever limited standard /proc has... |
| 17:28.49 | formi | what i don't get is it was running |
| 17:28.53 | formi | before |
| 17:30.50 | Leeds | before what? |
| 17:30.56 | Leeds | I asked you three times what you changed |
| 17:31.18 | formi | i changed nothing, msec did |
| 17:31.36 | Leeds | okay |
| 17:31.40 | Leeds | I asked you what changed |
| 17:31.53 | Leeds | how did a microsecond change? |
| 17:33.17 | formi | msec, is some progy run by crond that checks the permissions of the files, and changes them sometimes |
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| 17:41.01 | formi | [monster@ns2 /home]$ clear |
| 17:41.01 | formi | clear: Command not found. |
| 17:41.01 | formi | [monster@ns2 /home]$ /bin/ls |
| 17:41.01 | formi | /bin/ls: .: Permission denied |
| 17:41.01 | formi | [monster@ns2 /home]$ /bin/cat |
| 17:41.06 | formi | [monster@ns2 /home]$ /bin/echo |
| 17:41.12 | formi | [monster@ns2 /home]$ /bin/echo $PATH |
| 17:41.16 | formi | /usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/usr/X11R6/bin |
| 17:41.19 | formi | [monster@ns2 /home]$ /us |
| 17:41.33 | formi | interesting, I added a new user, changed the shell to tcsh and funny happen |
| 17:41.51 | highbury | ls -ld /bin/ls |
| 17:42.02 | highbury | do! |
| 17:42.09 | highbury | oops sorry |
| 17:42.16 | highbury | try that as root |
| 17:42.50 | formi | [root@ns2 root]# ls -ld /bin/ls |
| 17:42.50 | formi | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 77964 Feb 13 2003 /bin/ls* |
| 17:43.11 | highbury | ls -ld / /bin |
| 17:43.45 | formi | drwxr-x--x 17 root adm 1024 Aug 24 02:12 // |
| 17:43.45 | formi | drwxr-x--x 2 root adm 2048 Aug 26 18:35 /bin/ |
| 17:43.45 | formi | [root@ns2 root]# |
| 17:44.15 | highbury | you must have other-read set |
| 17:44.27 | highbury | somebodies broken your permissions |
| 17:44.38 | formi | msec probably |
| 17:44.55 | highbury | drwxr-xr-x 29 root root 4096 2003-08-26 18:38 / |
| 17:44.56 | highbury | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2003-04-26 23:56 /bin |
| 17:45.15 | highbury | are more reasonable settings, group adm sounds wrong too |
| 17:45.21 | highbury | msec? |
| 17:45.40 | formi | msec, is some progy run by crond that checks the permissions of the files, and changes them sometimes |
| 17:45.59 | highbury | which distro? |
| 17:46.18 | formi | mdk 9.1 |
| 17:47.36 | formi | phone! be back |
| 17:48.28 | stephanb | oh, i've had problems with sgi-fam on mdk9.1, not your type of problems, but fam interfering with supermount and nautilus (gnome) |
| 17:53.23 | formi | stephanb: i don't have X in the machine |
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| 17:59.22 | stephanb | formi: you may have supermount to mount cds and floppies |
| 17:59.38 | formi | it isn't running |
| 18:04.11 | Leeds | hmm... chippie... good idea :-) |
| 18:20.17 | JD | hi |
| 18:20.31 | JD | formi: thanks for the email |
| 18:20.33 | JD | it is fine |
| 18:20.49 | Jenson | heya JD |
| 18:23.18 | JD | hi |
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| 19:11.18 | gregj | re |
| 19:11.26 | formi | hello |
| 19:11.31 | gregj | anyone wants to buy 60GB HD |
| 19:11.39 | JD | nope |
| 19:11.43 | formi | some people are unvelibable |
| 19:11.46 | gregj | i need cash urgently , so i need to get rid of some hardware |
| 19:12.00 | JD | gregj: can't you just sell Leeds? |
| 19:12.04 | formi | i have no cash |
| 19:12.14 | JD | that way you get to keep him afterwards and can sell him again |
| 19:12.26 | gregj | JD: hmm, price per kilo - and i will be ritch |
| 19:12.31 | Jenson | lmfao |
| 19:12.39 | JD | gregj: I was thinking for sex |
| 19:12.42 | Jenson | thats evil gregj |
| 19:12.48 | Jenson | JD: thats just worrying |
| 19:12.55 | gregj | hmm |
| 19:12.56 | formi | have you seen the email about european power? |
| 19:13.02 | JD | Jenson: you mean you wouldn;t pay hoim for sex? |
| 19:13.02 | gregj | i am straight |
| 19:13.09 | Jenson | JD: nope lol |
| 19:13.17 | JD | gregj: you sell him to other people |
| 19:13.22 | JD | like jenson |
| 19:13.23 | gregj | oh |
| 19:13.25 | gregj | :] |
| 19:13.34 | JD | formi: ? |
| 19:13.35 | gregj | Jenson: so, how much can you give :] |
| 19:13.50 | gregj | formi: yes, the one off topic |
| 19:13.53 | Jenson | gregj: i currently have about £3 lol |
| 19:14.01 | gregj | god sake, there are no emails OFF TOPIC on this list |
| 19:14.05 | gregj | everything is off topic |
| 19:14.06 | gregj | :] |
| 19:14.19 | gregj | Jenson: lol, i have about the same |
| 19:14.37 | gregj | Jenson: i am sorry, you cannot afford Ritchard :] |
| 19:14.47 | zachary | gregj: how much you asking? (For the hard drive not leeds) |
| 19:14.59 | gregj | zachary: how much you can give |
| 19:15.06 | gregj | zachary: i got few other things as well |
| 19:15.17 | gregj | beside that i am looking for some jobs |
| 19:15.27 | Jenson | i need a HD, ours is dying, but my dad refuses to buy a new one til this one dies completely |
| 19:15.34 | gregj | setting up servers, writing some software and so on |
| 19:15.36 | formi | is it the only me the one who thinks some UK people still think the rest of the world is worse than their country |
| 19:15.55 | JD | ? |
| 19:15.56 | gregj | formi: i thougth it is like that everywhere else |
| 19:16.01 | new2unix | gregj: i'll top zachary's price by an additional squid :) |
| 19:16.07 | gregj | indeed poles are the same in that matter |
| 19:16.12 | new2unix | hi formi :) |
| 19:16.34 | gregj | zachary: i don't know how much can i take, give me a price |
| 19:16.36 | new2unix | allo channel lurkers |
| 19:16.39 | formi | hi new2unix |
| 19:17.14 | zachary | gregj: what's the make/model? |
| 19:17.14 | gregj | new2unix: maybe it is time to change nick to e.g. notsonew2unix :] |
| 19:17.15 | formi | I know a very "relaxed" polish builder |
| 19:17.25 | gregj | zachary: SEAGATE BARACUDA |
| 19:17.25 | new2unix | hi zachary and Jenson and JD |
| 19:17.32 | gregj | zachary: ata 4 |
| 19:17.34 | zachary | hi new2unix |
| 19:17.38 | Jenson | heya new2unix |
| 19:17.46 | gregj | zachary: full model : ST360021A |
| 19:17.51 | formi | he manages to beat the uk guys at slowness, and that is a big achievement |
| 19:18.03 | new2unix | formi: hah |
| 19:18.20 | gregj | zachary: i guess it will be something between 40-60 but i might be wrong |
| 19:18.37 | stephanb | gregj: thats a cool 7200rpm drive to do video editing |
| 19:18.42 | gregj | i bought it some time ago, and i dont' even remember for how much |
| 19:18.49 | stephanb | and its silent too |
| 19:18.51 | new2unix | gregj: there's a 8.3 filename limit so i cant use the nick youve suggested. hah |
| 19:19.12 | well_nick_can_be | :] |
| 19:19.37 | or_even_longer_i | thats the limit |
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| 19:20.01 | JD | it could just be your client |
| 19:20.05 | Jenson | heya EtherRex |
| 19:20.42 | JD | okay |
| 19:21.11 | JD | hmmm PJ Harvey has really mellowed recently |
| 19:21.32 | JD | I can't work out if she is attractive |
| 19:21.39 | new2unix | formi: how's FreeBSD treating you these days? |
| 19:22.43 | new2unix | Jenson: How's MDK or whatever it is youre dualbooting into these days? |
| 19:22.47 | formi | running smoothly |
| 19:23.06 | new2unix | formi: the BSD's normally do ;) |
| 19:23.06 | Jenson | new2unix: Slackware, and fine ty |
| 19:23.18 | JD | someone got jenson to try something other than slack. |
| 19:23.20 | JD | ? |
| 19:23.53 | Jenson | JD: heh i did try to install Debian, but it kept chucking wierd dependencies at me on install, so i put slack 9 over it |
| 19:23.54 | new2unix | JD: yeah. was too tight a Distro so she dumped it. hah |
| 19:24.16 | JD | Jenson: it was only installling what it needed |
| 19:24.35 | new2unix | Jenson: debian, dependencies? |
| 19:24.37 | JD | give an example of a weird dependancy |
| 19:24.46 | Jenson | JD: like i can remember |
| 19:24.58 | Jenson | i was merely upgrading, so now im with Slack 9 |
| 19:25.03 | new2unix | ok. amm off to go find dinner. |
| 19:25.06 | JD | what? |
| 19:25.15 | JD | you tried upgrade slack to debian? |
| 19:26.13 | Jenson | JD: no, i was gonna switch to Debian, but it pissed me off, so i went from Slack 8.1 to Slack 9 |
| 19:26.45 | JD | s/pissed off/couldn;t be bothered to stick with it for 5 minutes/ |
| 19:26.53 | JD | but then I wouldn;t recommend debian for you anyway |
| 19:27.09 | Jenson | why? |
| 19:27.11 | gregj | it is not for newbies |
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| 19:27.22 | gregj | it is fairly easy to set it up |
| 19:27.26 | gregj | but.. |
| 19:27.34 | Jenson | gregj: Slack is also not for newbies |
| 19:27.46 | JD | Jenson: and that is why you shouldn;t be using it |
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| 19:28.15 | Jenson | JD: im doing fine...i got xine to work sort of...it will work with porn....just npthing else lol |
| 19:28.48 | Jenson | oh and i still aint fixed my printing |
| 19:28.52 | Jenson | BRB |
| 19:28.54 | Jenson | mother wants phone |
| 19:29.21 | gregj | i didn't knew we are on the phone :] |
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| 19:36.57 | formi | Leeds: did you go to fish yourself? You took a long time. |
| 19:37.44 | Leeds | I got chatting to a collegue on the way out of the office' |
| 19:39.14 | Leeds | the last one out the office has to put the alarm on, and since she was just visiting, she left when I did... |
| 19:39.57 | murble | fishing for what? |
| 19:40.21 | new2unix | i had to leave at 6pm today cos of a bomb scare at the French Embassy:( |
| 19:40.40 | new2unix | Last time somebody decided to set themself alight. Now this. |
| 19:40.47 | Leeds | murble: I've been to the chippie |
| 19:40.52 | Leeds | new2unix: sounds like a fun area to work in |
| 19:41.05 | formi | modern man fishes in the chippie |
| 19:41.06 | new2unix | Cromwell Road. |
| 19:42.05 | new2unix | 60p for a can of coke. Outrageous if you ask me. |
| 19:43.00 | stephanb | new2unix: my old indian gp once said to me : drink 1.5 litre of water a day, then if you're still thirsty drink fancy stuff |
| 19:43.58 | new2unix | stephanb: i do. I've got Robinson's Fruit & Barley in the kitchen. Suits me :) |
| 19:44.42 | Leeds | as in... now |
| 19:45.13 | new2unix | stephanb: but there are sometimes when only a carbonated drink will do. havent you ever been there before? |
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| 19:45.25 | stephanb | nope |
| 19:45.32 | stephanb | i hate carbonated drinks |
| 19:46.00 | murble | you only have unfuzzy drinks |
| 19:46.06 | stephanb | unless sparkling water counts as a carbonated drink |
| 19:46.46 | Leeds | sort of |
| 19:47.40 | new2unix | stephanb: sparlking water is horrible. It always tastes like a mistake to me. |
| 19:47.54 | new2unix | stephanb: like an experiment gone wrong. hah |
| 19:48.04 | Leeds | the sparkling water in Edinburgh was really nice |
| 19:48.07 | stephanb | i think there are times when only a glass of plain water will do |
| 19:48.33 | Leeds | cold water |
| 19:48.47 | stephanb | not cold, room temperature |
| 19:48.58 | Leeds | cold water |
| 19:49.05 | formi | americans sell diamonds made from human ashes |
| 19:49.09 | Leeds | arse |
| 19:49.16 | new2unix | stephanb: yeah. room temperature with a few blocks of ice. |
| 19:49.19 | Leeds | 2Gb filesize limit |
| 19:49.42 | stephanb | Leeds: playing with video ? |
| 19:50.09 | Leeds | dvd image |
| 19:50.50 | new2unix | Is that sash lurking in the shadows? |
| 19:51.29 | stephanb | i thought only win9x had a 2gb limit |
| 19:51.53 | Leeds | not at all |
| 19:52.01 | Leeds | Linux/Unix used to |
| 19:52.16 | new2unix | win98 2nd edition didnt have that limit |
| 19:52.26 | Leeds | it's a natural limit of a 32-bit platform - it has to be explicitly worked around |
| 19:52.33 | Leeds | hmm... |
| 19:52.40 | Leeds | maybe I should unpack this on my SPARC box :-) |
| 19:53.20 | stephanb | Leeds: oic, so i'll have that on linux ! |
| 19:53.43 | Leeds | nah - newer software (or more recently-compiled software) is okay |
| 19:54.39 | Leeds | this, unfortunately, is a piece of binary-only, relatively old software |
| 19:56.41 | stephanb | Leeds: well... if you rip DVDs on an Apple ][... |
| 20:12.14 | *** part/#gllug sash (voidzero@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG) |
| 20:13.05 | irvined | yeah, linux has memory limits, on ia32 the kernel can address 16gb of ram, but your applications are generally limited to 2gb + some cache and library stuff |
| 20:13.44 | gregj | Leeds: |gj@knoppix:~$ bash fujarka.sh |
| 20:13.44 | gregj | Leeds: |14.2cm |
| 20:13.54 | gregj | Leeds: http://ep09.kernel.pl/~misi3k/fujarka.sh |
| 20:13.54 | gregj | :] |
| 20:13.55 | Leeds | it's not memory - it's filesize |
| 20:13.58 | irvined | leeds is it just a file size limit? You can upgrade your libc to get round that fairly easily. |
| 20:14.12 | Leeds | okay |
| 20:14.16 | Leeds | now ls can't see the file... |
| 20:15.53 | Leeds | EOVERFLOW |
| 20:16.41 | irvined | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 20:16.41 | irvined | /dev/sda3 221T 215T 0 100% / |
| 20:16.41 | irvined | /dev/sda1 76T 19T 54T 26% /boot |
| 20:16.41 | irvined | iolaus:/mnt/hdj1/Music |
| 20:16.41 | irvined | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:16.51 | Leeds | hmm... I think NFS might be the problem here |
| 20:17.06 | irvined | leeds ive been having similar problems heh. |
| 20:17.14 | irvined | sda is a 200mb disk :) |
| 20:17.21 | Leeds | ah |
| 20:17.35 | Leeds | mine is actually real |
| 20:18.06 | gregj | nfs sux |
| 20:18.15 | gregj | it hangs always on my servers after a while |
| 20:18.21 | Leeds | I was wondering how many kernels you could fit in /boot :-) |
| 20:18.30 | gregj | hehe |
| 20:18.47 | gregj | 54 tera servers |
| 20:18.57 | gregj | more |
| 20:24.05 | gregj | http://openphoto.net/image_view.html?image_id=20517 |
| 20:24.11 | gregj | wife awaiting for late husband |
| 20:24.11 | gregj | :] |
| 20:25.49 | Leeds | hmm... |
| 20:25.55 | Leeds | now ls completely ignores the file |
| 20:40.14 | Leeds | http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/L/lapdance_island/index.html |
| 20:45.24 | gregj | http://openphoto.net/admin/index.html?id=1054614746 |
| 20:45.27 | gregj | and click CANCEL |
| 20:45.28 | gregj | :] |
| 20:45.36 | gregj | this is what i call - access denied |
| 20:47.09 | new2unix | http://www.internetisshit.org/2.html |
| 20:48.02 | Jenson | greheh |
| 20:48.06 | Jenson | fsck |
| 20:48.11 | Jenson | i mean gregj: heh |
| 20:49.45 | gregj | Jenson: fix yer tab :] |
| 20:50.01 | Leeds | that link I posted... |
| 20:50.03 | Leeds | it's a hoax :-) |
| 20:50.42 | Jenson | Leeds: lol its quite funny though |
| 20:51.14 | Jenson | Leeds: did you read the application form, the questions are funny |
| 20:52.01 | Leeds | yup |
| 20:52.28 | Leeds | ch4 are making a series about what people will do to get on TV... applying for that show is one of them :-) |
| 20:53.12 | Jenson | hehehehe |
| 20:53.23 | Leeds | hmm... |
| 20:53.23 | Jenson | we best start encouraging ppl to apply |
| 20:53.33 | Leeds | even rm can't deal with a largefile :-( |
| 20:58.55 | new2unix | Jenson: i think sniffing glue is still regarded as a misdemenor(sp?) |
| 20:59.53 | Jenson | heh, it was Alex's he was using it to glue his trainers, then i put it in my bag and it somehow got on my phone aerial |
| 21:01.00 | Leeds | new2unix: it's also a bloody stupid thing to do |
| 21:01.02 | new2unix | glue his trainers? dont they have cobblers down his way? |
| 21:01.40 | new2unix | Leeds: indeed. |
| 21:01.46 | Jenson | lol well he was gluing them |
| 21:02.37 | new2unix | Jenson: where they paper mache trainers by any chance? |
| 21:03.08 | *** join/#gllug armijn (~armijn@losser.labs.cs.uu.nl) |
| 21:03.10 | Jenson | new2unix: no lol |
| 21:03.12 | Jenson | heya armijn |
| 21:03.14 | armijn | hi |
| 21:03.15 | Jenson | BRB |
| 21:03.24 | Leeds | evening armijn |
| 21:03.28 | armijn | hi Leeds |
| 21:03.35 | Leeds | how's things in Benelux? |
| 21:03.41 | armijn | Leeds: will get PDA soon, Dell Axim with wireless CF |
| 21:03.48 | armijn | well, finally going to get some rain |
| 21:03.49 | Leeds | cool |
| 21:04.07 | Leeds | there's not been any significant rain here yet, AFAIK |
| 21:04.09 | armijn | dunno much about "be" and "lux", I stay north of the dutch-french language border... |
| 21:04.29 | Leeds | ibot axim |
| 21:04.34 | | rumour has it, axim is http://handhelds.org/projects/axim |
| 21:04.49 | armijn | leeds: that website has not been updated for a while :) |
| 21:05.04 | Leeds | true :-( |
| 21:05.15 | armijn | leeds: and the wireless thing is a new model (well, not really, just a bundle of the "top-range" Axim with a CF card) |
| 21:05.22 | Leeds | I saw that |
| 21:05.22 | Jenson | back |
| 21:05.43 | Leeds | IIRC, it was a decent, but not outstanding, price for a wifi CF |
| 21:06.10 | armijn | letting off some steam, been digging into some stuff all day...if Red Hat would have just documented it, it would have been fixed in a few hours... |
| 21:06.18 | Leeds | hmm... |
| 21:06.37 | armijn | how to customize a Red Hat install, generating new images, etc. |
| 21:06.44 | Leeds | ah, tha |
| 21:06.44 | armijn | it's not straightforward without documentation |
| 21:06.45 | Leeds | t |
| 21:06.49 | Leeds | kickstart? |
| 21:06.58 | armijn | yeah, for kickstart eventually |
| 21:07.07 | armijn | I got it figured out now... |
| 21:07.33 | armijn | regenerating hdlist, making new comps.xml, running a few other tools, etc. etc. |
| 21:08.08 | armijn | funny, with those tools you can do with Red Hat what other distros try with building frm source (like ROCK and Gentoo), to build customized distros |
| 21:08.25 | Leeds | right |
| 21:09.08 | armijn | it's amusing...I spent ages on ROCK until about a year ago...ignored my work (even though I got the first UltraSparc port working correctly) |
| 21:10.42 | Leeds | it's a slightly different way of looking at the world |
| 21:11.02 | armijn | I'm used to that... |
| 21:11.35 | armijn | hmm, tomorrow I'll go to my first hardcore hiphop concert...wearing a black metal shirt... |
| 21:11.42 | armijn | that should be fun... |
| 21:12.02 | armijn | leeds: I still got a bunch of pictures from Edinburgh which feature you... |
| 21:12.07 | Leeds | oops |
| 21:12.20 | armijn | leeds: want them (not right now, but eventually)? |
| 21:12.24 | Leeds | sure :-) |
| 21:12.27 | armijn | okie. |
| 21:13.14 | armijn | ran into samba team member in the train...still was a bit jetlagged from CIFS conference...and still no samba 3.0 :( |
| 21:14.11 | Leeds | well, that seems to work |
| 21:16.54 | armijn | hmm, probably stuck to CE for a little while then with the Axim... |
| 21:17.29 | Leeds | I think you can boot Linux okay from wince... just not 'naturally' |
| 21:18.02 | new2unix | years to come, how would you say you spent the summer of 2003? |
| 21:18.28 | new2unix | Leeds? armijn? |
| 21:18.37 | armijn | new2unix: sweating |
| 21:18.49 | new2unix | armijn: hah |
| 21:18.53 | Leeds | ditto |
| 21:19.04 | armijn | leeds: hmmyeah, but...then from linux probably SD slot won't work...and wireless thing is CF... |
| 21:19.18 | armijn | new2unix: why? |
| 21:19.29 | Leeds | working... went to Newcastle, Edinburgh and Bournemouth, as well as Spain |
| 21:19.45 | new2unix | dunno. just asking. perhaps i'm bored. |
| 21:19.56 | armijn | heh :) |
| 21:20.32 | armijn | I was preparing talk, ate loads and loads of plums, went swimming, Edinburgh, then more work... |
| 21:20.52 | armijn | work has the tendency to pile up... |
| 21:21.11 | new2unix | armijn: during the summer of 2003, you ate plums? haha, now thats funny. |
| 21:21.34 | armijn | new2unix: we've got a plum tree in our garden, and we had at least 30 kilos... |
| 21:21.36 | new2unix | do plums have a cooling effect on you? |
| 21:22.05 | armijn | new2unix: I took at least one kilo per day with me to my lab...just to get rid of the plums... |
| 21:22.08 | armijn | yeah, plums rock |
| 21:23.06 | new2unix | armijn: What part of London are you based? Dont think ive ever seen a plum tree before. But then i prolly wouldnt know one if i saw one. |
| 21:23.25 | armijn | new2unix: I'm not in London :) |
| 21:23.52 | new2unix | armijn: your missing out. London is the place to be. Ask Leeds. |
| 21:24.13 | armijn | new2unix: but then I wouldn't have a plum tree... |
| 21:24.15 | Leeds | nah, Leeds isn't a bad place to be either |
| 21:24.28 | Leeds | ibot armijn |
| 21:24.28 | | Leeds: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 21:24.49 | stephanb | bye everybody |
| 21:24.59 | new2unix | night stephanb |
| 21:25.06 | stephanb | and Read the Funky Manual ! |
| 21:25.11 | stephanb | new2unix: nite nite |
| 21:25.15 | *** part/#gllug stephanb (~frog@dsl-80-46-196-31.access.uk.tiscali.com) |
| 21:25.17 | armijn | to be honest, I liked Edinburgh... |
| 21:25.30 | armijn | better than London... |
| 21:25.54 | armijn | but then again, I've only seen both from the touristy side... |
| 21:26.04 | Leeds | hmmm... |
| 21:26.24 | Leeds | now I need to work out what to do with a 4.2Gb DVD image |
| 21:26.37 | armijn | leeds: burn it? |
| 21:26.47 | Leeds | right |
| 21:26.49 | new2unix | Leeds: burn it to disk? |
| 21:26.57 | Leeds | except that might require having a DVD burner |
| 21:27.01 | Leeds | maybe |
| 21:27.11 | Jenson | cnvertn it to VCD somehow |
| 21:27.12 | armijn | leeds: use split to make CD sized chunks ;) |
| 21:27.20 | Jenson | s/convert |
| 21:27.27 | highbury | divx it! |
| 21:27.59 | Leeds | no no on |
| 21:28.03 | new2unix | ftp it to Jenson and shell convert it to VCD for you |
| 21:28.19 | Leeds | I want to split it into tracks... and have the tracks available, without any recoding... |
| 21:28.29 | Leeds | new2unix: right... 4.2Gb of ftp up? |
| 21:28.38 | highbury | what's it a recording of? |
| 21:28.53 | Leeds | Finding Nemo :-) |
| 21:29.04 | armijn | might have my first game console soon! |
| 21:29.07 | Jenson | I've seen that |
| 21:29.09 | Jenson | ages ago |
| 21:29.53 | new2unix | i havent seen it and i have a DVD burner, well a couple actually but they are at work. :( |
| 21:30.13 | Leeds | Jenson: really? |
| 21:30.19 | Jenson | new2unix: i can get it on VCD |
| 21:30.27 | Jenson | Leeds: yeh |
| 21:30.33 | Jenson | at least a month ago |
| 21:30.34 | Leeds | bah VCD... |
| 21:30.40 | Leeds | this is a complete DVD image :-) |
| 21:30.49 | armijn | jenson == 'leet w4r3z dud3zz |
| 21:30.59 | armijn | (as in, dudess, female dude) |
| 21:31.09 | new2unix | VCD sounds like a veneral disease. |
| 21:31.24 | Jenson | armijn: lol |
| 21:31.27 | Jenson | its not mine |
| 21:31.45 | Jenson | i just happen to be abnle to bribe free copies from the person who pays for it lol |
| 21:31.49 | armijn | jenson: of course not! isn't that what the whole warez thing is about?? |
| 21:31.57 | armijn | that it's not yours? |
| 21:32.04 | Jenson | armijn: well yeah |
| 21:32.07 | new2unix | armijn: hah |
| 21:32.07 | armijn | and steal it from the large media corporations? |
| 21:32.15 | Jenson | i have Matrix Reloaded, thats all I actually have |
| 21:32.22 | Leeds | I'll probably see it at the cinema as well... |
| 21:33.13 | Jenson | i saw reloaded at the cinema |
| 21:33.25 | Jenson | and i'll probably buy it eventually |
| 21:33.58 | new2unix | i heard its out on Imax. |
| 21:35.42 | armijn | Leeds: ehm, you probably also have some pictures of me from Edinburgh... |
| 21:35.51 | Leeds | yeah, probably |
| 21:36.01 | armijn | Leeds: we could swap :) |
| 21:36.43 | Leeds | for some reason, lots of people I don't know are sending me movies and thank-you notes and stuff... |
| 21:38.11 | new2unix | Question time: |
| 21:38.46 | new2unix | This one is ON-topic :) |
| 21:39.06 | armijn | RTFM! |
| 21:39.16 | new2unix | Users are advised not to open files across the network but to copy them over to their home dir, work on it and drop it back. Some dont listen. How would i be able to tell if a file is been opened/accessed locally? |
| 21:40.03 | new2unix | i'm looking at lsof but does anyone awake know of any other solutions? |
| 21:40.37 | armijn | hmm, no...lsof was what I was thinking about... |
| 21:40.39 | Jenson | sleep time |
| 21:40.40 | Jenson | seeya |
| 21:41.03 | armijn | new2unix: via SMB? or NFS? |
| 21:41.09 | murble | anyone going to brussels tomororw? |
| 21:41.14 | new2unix | neither. |
| 21:41.25 | new2unix | macOSX |
| 21:41.35 | new2unix | appletalk i guess |
| 21:41.49 | armijn | new2unix: OS X can do SMB and NFS as well, so... |
| 21:42.07 | armijn | new2unix: maybe the logs of the appletalk thing might be helpful |
| 21:42.14 | armijn | murble: nope |
| 21:42.32 | new2unix | Yeah but as mac clients will be access the mac server its only natural to keep it simple, no? |
| 21:43.20 | new2unix | and some of the mac clients are OS8 and 9 and a few X's. |
| 21:43.27 | armijn | new2unix: ehm yeah, keeping it simple is a good idea... |
| 21:46.19 | new2unix | just been going through lsof's man page. I'll draft upa quick shell script and run it on the server. moving over to *BSD was the best thing apple's done in a long time, second to its near perfect designer body/hardware. |
| 21:46.54 | Leeds | oh |
| 21:46.59 | Leeds | an apple fanboy |
| 21:47.03 | armijn | new2unix: but lsof generates lots and lots of output... |
| 21:47.37 | new2unix | yeah. but REG is for regular files only so greping for that should cut the output in half. |
| 21:48.22 | new2unix | hi dankolb |
| 21:48.26 | Leeds | not you dan |
| 21:48.28 | dankolb | Hi |
| 21:48.40 | armijn | dankolb is apple fanboy... |
| 21:48.54 | dankolb | So? |
| 21:49.05 | armijn | nuthin' |
| 21:49.29 | new2unix | dankolb: Users are advised not to open files across the network but to copy them over to their home dir, work on it and drop it back. Some dont listen. How would i be able to tell if a file is been opened/accessed locally? |
| 21:49.42 | armijn | there are worse things than being an apple fanboy |
| 21:49.53 | dankolb | JCM-fanboy? |
| 21:50.13 | dankolb | new2unix: Not sure. |
| 21:50.17 | new2unix | server: macOSX, clients: apple macs |
| 21:50.41 | new2unix | jeez. dankolb, your letting the house down. |
| 21:50.49 | new2unix | ibot wallop dankolb |
| 21:50.49 | | new2unix: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 21:50.54 | new2unix | hehe |
| 21:51.27 | armijn | dankolb: ehr, no...I was thinking Sun fanboy... |
| 21:51.31 | new2unix | great. and there i was thinking ibot was an impartial bot. |
| 21:51.33 | Leeds | hmm? |
| 21:52.11 | armijn | Leeds: nuthin'...I just noticed I was surrounded by SPARC machines... |
| 21:56.20 | dankolb | murble: What's happening in Brussels tomorrow? |
| 21:56.49 | armijn | anti-software patents thingie |
| 21:56.59 | dankolb | Blah. Too political. |
| 22:10.05 | armijn | beddie time |
| 22:10.05 | *** part/#gllug armijn (~armijn@losser.labs.cs.uu.nl) |
| 22:54.42 | highbury | nn |
| 23:10.12 | gregj | fuck |
| 23:10.17 | gregj | fucking postgresql |
| 23:10.30 | gregj | fucking debian package |
| 23:11.56 | eye69 | gregj: Breathe :) |
| 23:17.35 | gregj | FUCK |
| 23:18.17 | Leeds | debian |
| 23:18.35 | gregj | FUCK!! |
| 23:18.51 | gregj | i think i'll use the source, Luke |
| 23:23.44 | gregj | fucking dpkg failed to copy files |
| 23:23.58 | gregj | when i did that manualy, everything is perfect |