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00:20.58 | formi | boas |
00:21.35 | formi | had something funny happened to me a few min ago |
08:02.03 | JD_ | hi all |
08:02.08 | JD_ | hmmm |
08:02.15 | JD | ahh |
08:02.15 | nasrat | morning JD |
08:03.10 | Jenson|Away | hiya JD |
08:03.17 | Jenson|Away | hiya nasrat |
08:05.21 | JD | hi all |
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14:09.20 | zachary | afternoon formi |
14:10.34 | formi | hello |
14:11.21 | zachary | how's things? |
14:12.39 | formi | a bit boring |
14:12.58 | formi | im trying to crack my own wireless network |
14:14.51 | formi | i don't know if im doing something wrong but airsnort is not helping much |
14:17.05 | zachary | I know what you mean. I ended up buying a netgear ap and their 401 card. The funny thing is, I can't get suse to configure the netgear card(works fine with knoppix) but my oronico gold card works fine. |
14:18.06 | formi | do you know what chipset the netgear uses |
14:18.07 | formi | ? |
14:18.30 | zachary | bolth use prism2. |
14:19.21 | formi | are you using the linux-wlan drivers |
14:20.04 | new2unix | formi: have you tried http://www.dachb0den.com/projects/bsd-airtools.html |
14:20.15 | new2unix | hi zachary, formi and others |
14:20.21 | zachary | hey new2unix |
14:20.46 | new2unix | formi: here's another: http://www.networkintrusion.co.uk/wireless.htm |
14:21.41 | formi | im using redhat for the nifty stuff |
14:21.49 | zachary | formi orinoco_cs |
14:22.03 | new2unix | formi: thought you had a BSD box about. |
14:22.07 | formi | have you tried wlanfe ? |
14:22.36 | formi | the wireless ap, is an old laptop running openbsd on ap mode |
14:23.32 | formi | http://formi.sdf-eu.org/photos/wirelap.jpg |
14:24.07 | new2unix | formi: cool. perhaps we can talk on that at a future GLLUG meet. "using *nix for fun and pleasure" |
14:25.23 | formi | if you have the right card, it's dead easy |
14:25.31 | formi | actually 2 lines |
14:26.47 | formi | # cat /etc/hostname.wi0 |
14:26.48 | formi | inet 172.20.0.5 255.255.0.0 |
14:26.48 | formi | nwid formi mediaopt hostap |
14:26.48 | formi | !wicontrol \$if -t 5 -P 1 -e 1 -k |
14:26.49 | new2unix | yeah i know. but many people dont. Perhaps we can gather round a few nifty projects together and dedicate a gllug meet to discussing and setting them up. we could talk about their pros and cons and stuff. |
14:27.23 | formi | there are many projects |
14:27.40 | formi | if people are not prepared to look around is their problem |
14:28.51 | new2unix | but how are they to know if there arent people to advocate. Its similar to linux. no publicity is no userbase. |
14:29.59 | formi | there is no worst blind man that the one who doesn't want to see |
14:30.30 | new2unix | btw. who's ana.jpg ? |
14:32.34 | formi | a friend |
14:34.03 | new2unix | zachary: want to play? lol |
14:34.10 | new2unix | J/K |
14:34.14 | formi | im busy |
14:36.07 | zachary | bbl, going to hunt down food. |
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15:38.54 | zachary | i'm back |
16:11.38 | Wethrin | Hello |
16:12.50 | zachary | hey Wethrin |
16:13.09 | Wethrin | How goes? |
16:13.44 | zachary | pretty good. A little behind in studies. |
16:13.48 | zachary | u |
16:14.54 | Wethrin | Mm. I just got back from a concert |
16:17.23 | Wethrin | Spent just over £50 on CDs. |
16:17.25 | Wethrin | Eep. |
16:17.38 | gregj | ziaw |
16:23.16 | Wethrin | But they're good CDs :) |
16:47.26 | JD | saved 110GBP :) |
16:47.48 | Wethrin | Good :) |
16:47.52 | Wethrin | Where did you get them from? |
16:48.22 | JD | shop in cambridge |
16:48.47 | Wethrin | Discount shop? |
16:49.48 | JD | yep |
16:50.10 | JD | stuff seemed to be slightly dammaged but nothing bad |
16:50.24 | Wethrin | Sounds good :) |
16:50.32 | Wethrin | I'm listening to Dead Ringers Series 8. |
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16:58.43 | Wethrin | Afternoon Paul |
16:59.17 | cupis | Evening. :) |
17:01.49 | JD | oh so it is |
17:01.55 | JD | what a waste of a day |
17:02.02 | Wethrin | I had music. |
17:02.04 | Wethrin | Hah. |
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18:19.08 | JD | ty |
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19:05.15 | Leeds | so, how's everyone doing? |
19:06.06 | Leeds | or, indeed... anyone? |
19:06.53 | JD | http://www.clga.net/files/badger.swf |
19:08.08 | Leeds | 13%... |
19:08.17 | JD | make sure you have sound |
19:08.17 | stephen | oh no, not that badger one again, it did the rounds of Quakenet about a week ago |
19:08.47 | JD | stephen: sorry |
19:08.52 | stephen | np :p |
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19:09.11 | stephen | it was actually quite funny the first time I saw it |
19:09.46 | Leeds | 55% |
19:10.47 | stephanb | Leeds: dialup is absolutely fine for irc |
19:10.53 | stephen | I went from 10Mbps to 28.8kbps for the summer, it wasn't a pleasant experience :p |
19:11.59 | Leeds | stephanb: sure... but not at the same time as reading a number of websites and downloading some flash thin |
19:11.59 | stephanb | stephen: enjoy the weather, go to the park, do some yoga ! |
19:12.18 | stephanb | Leeds: do you really *need* to read them ? |
19:12.55 | Leeds | stephanb: wtf are you talking about? |
19:13.11 | JD | it is fine for irc unless you download at the same time |
19:13.26 | Leeds | does this thing do anything except a load of badgers, a mushroom and a snake? |
19:14.00 | JD | Leeds: don't know |
19:14.03 | stephen | Leeds: no |
19:14.07 | JD | haven;t seem anything yet |
19:14.36 | stephen | it's worth watching more for its 'cult' value than anything else |
19:14.44 | Leeds | bah cult value |
19:14.56 | Leeds | at least the kittens are funny :-) |
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19:24.42 | Cope | Evening |
20:37.23 | Cope | Boo! |
21:18.47 | Wethrin | Eek! |
21:20.15 | stephanb | Ni! |
21:20.29 | Wethrin | IT! |
21:22.26 | Cope | Woo |
21:23.24 | Wethrin | Easy stuff. |
21:23.35 | Cope | My 2nd time. |
21:23.59 | Cope | And only time I've tried replacing a kernel! |
21:24.33 | Wethrin | :) |
21:25.01 | Cope | What's the differnece between bximage and vmlinuz? |
21:25.08 | Wethrin | The spelling. |
21:25.29 | Cope | So I could do make dep && make clean wibblewobble |
21:25.42 | Wethrin | Unix used to have (still does?) the kernel file called vmunix |
21:25.52 | Wethrin | vmlinux was a play on that |
21:26.02 | Wethrin | vmlinuz is the gzip compressed version |
21:26.25 | Cope | Ah - and bz being.... bz |
21:27.31 | Wethrin | Yeh. |
21:28.24 | Cope | Well... I got the source, untarred it, did make menuconfig, added what I wanted, and did make dep && make clean bzimage |
21:28.57 | Cope | Hmm... does make menuconfig do the same as make oldconfig - ie takes your current kernel as the basis of the new one? |
21:29.01 | Wethrin | make mrproper menuconfig dep bzImage modules modules_install |
21:29.14 | Wethrin | No, it takes an existing .config file |
21:29.24 | Cope | Hmm |
21:30.08 | Cope | From the src or from /boot? |
21:30.20 | Wethrin | From /usr/src/linux/.config |
21:30.29 | murble | Wethrin: bz not being bz |
21:30.35 | murble | bz being big |
21:30.38 | murble | and gzip |
21:30.42 | Wethrin | Ahh.yes.sorry. |
21:30.59 | Cope | Hmm - I didn't have a /usr/src/linuz |
21:31.04 | Cope | Hmm - I didn't have a /usr/src/linux even |
21:31.18 | Wethrin | The last kernel I compiled was a few months ago for a UML system |
21:31.34 | Cope | Who is mrproper anyway? |
21:31.37 | Cope | :o) |
21:31.47 | Wethrin | Husband of mrsproper |
21:33.37 | Cope | Ok - so I have copied bzImage to /boot - shall I try to reboot, having inserted a grub floppy? |
21:33.45 | JD | it is from a scandinavian cleaning product |
21:33.56 | JD | think mr muscle |
21:34.10 | Wethrin | Heh. |
21:34.33 | Cope | Okay... here goes :-) |
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21:37.21 | Cope | WOOT! |
21:38.58 | Wethrin | It w0rk3d? |
21:39.23 | Cope | It did :-) |
21:39.37 | Wethrin | I don't see any differencve :-P |
21:39.41 | Wethrin | -v |
21:39.48 | Cope | SO was that .config file a generic one shipped with the kernel? |
21:39.57 | Cope | Or did it take my last one? |
21:40.06 | Wethrin | Dunno |
21:40.29 | Wethrin | RAF bands++ |
21:44.43 | Cope | Bah - the whole point of the uprgade was to have modules available for my zaurus - I built them into the kernel itself, which doesn't seem to help. |
21:44.54 | Cope | Rather than have them as modules. |
21:45.57 | Wethrin | Moon on a stick, some people want |
21:50.56 | Wethrin | he appears to be unsummonable |
21:51.34 | stephanb | mmmmkay everybody, im off |
21:51.37 | Wethrin | 'night |
21:51.37 | Cope | NN |
21:52.06 | *** part/#gllug stephanb (~frog@dsl-80-46-215-188.access.uk.tiscali.com) |
21:57.48 | Cope | Ok - so where do I find the place to insert the idVendor and idProduct in menuconfig? |
21:57.55 | Cope | (recompiling) |
21:58.08 | Wethrin | it's in the Makefile, somewhere, isn't it? |
22:01.20 | Cope | I'm not sure... well, I'll just keep hacking about and see what happens. |
22:06.05 | Wethrin | Yes |
22:06.06 | Wethrin | :) |
22:07.37 | Wethrin | Heh. |
22:07.58 | Cope | I was given a few games, so installed XP Pro. |
22:08.29 | Cope | *BSD for you, these days, Wethrin? |
22:08.42 | Wethrin | Indeed. OS X, specifically |
22:08.50 | Cope | Nice nice. |
22:08.55 | Wethrin | Yup |
22:09.58 | Cope | So what does make mrproper do anyway? I didn't do it last time or this time? |
22:10.35 | stephen | I intend to play around with *BSD when I can get some spare hardware, cos I daren't interrupt my house's internet connection by playing with out OpenBSD router :P |
22:13.37 | Cope | Ok - 2nd try |
22:16.33 | Wethrin | Fine |
22:16.35 | *** part/#gllug Wethrin (~ecoli@64.246.28.105) |
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22:27.04 | Wethrin | wb |
22:27.15 | Cope | ty |
22:27.20 | Cope | Cracked it :o) |
22:27.29 | JD | can you repair it? |
22:27.35 | Cope | 1) Had a conflicting usbnet driver |
22:27.41 | JD | bed |
22:27.46 | Wethrin | nn |
22:27.51 | Cope | 2) Needed to be a module not built into kernel |
22:27.54 | Cope | n jd |
22:29.38 | Cope | vi /etc/hotplug/usb/usbnet |
22:29.42 | Cope | Bah |
22:30.25 | Cope | #! /bin/bash |
22:30.28 | Cope | BAH BAH! |
22:30.35 | Cope | Ok - try using the right terminal. |
22:30.38 | Wethrin | :) |
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23:15.54 | Cope | Hello again :o) |
23:16.35 | Wethrin | Hello |
23:16.45 | Cope | Making progress! |
23:16.56 | Cope | Can now ssh into the Zaurus |
23:17.16 | Cope | Now recompiling kernel again for appropriate NAT stuff |
23:17.50 | Wethrin | Heh. |
23:27.45 | Wethrin | Easily pleased? :) |