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07:07.10 | Cope | Moin |
07:53.31 | Cope | Anyone want a slice of toast? |
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08:03.39 | Cope | Relo |
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08:50.14 | Cope | Hello :o) |
08:50.17 | Cope | Anyone around yet? |
08:51.07 | Tarragon | NO |
08:51.13 | Tarragon | :-) |
08:51.24 | Cope | lol |
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09:31.22 | Cope | Hey Leeds! |
09:31.26 | Leeds | morning |
09:31.40 | Cope | I have my pda connected to net! :o) |
09:31.51 | Leeds | cool |
09:32.26 | Cope | What's the best way to install something that is in rpm only? I have an app I want to run that syncs the pda and desktop |
09:32.40 | Leeds | kitchensync? |
09:32.42 | Leeds | multisync? |
09:33.31 | Cope | ie don't install the rpm only one? |
09:33.43 | Leeds | I don't understand |
09:33.48 | Cope | Sorry |
09:33.57 | Cope | I want to install Qtopia desktop |
09:33.59 | Leeds | what are you trying to install? |
09:34.05 | Leeds | hmm... |
09:34.11 | Leeds | are you're trying to install it on? |
09:34.11 | Cope | Which is the same as the pim software in OpenZaurus |
09:34.19 | Leeds | I know what qtopia is :-) |
09:34.29 | Cope | But the package is only available in rpm format. |
09:34.37 | Cope | I want to install it on my desktop |
09:34.46 | Cope | So I can share information between pda and desktop |
09:35.00 | Leeds | yes, I know what it is |
09:35.06 | Leeds | you're trying to install it on? |
09:35.28 | Cope | On my desktop pc. |
09:36.33 | Cope | So... can one convert rpm to tgz or something? What's the best way to install rpm package on a slackware system? |
09:37.27 | nasrat | Cope: alien maybe |
09:37.45 | Cope | Ah... yeah, I've heard of alien. |
09:38.28 | nasrat | or rpm2cpio and take it from there. Else grab src.rpm and convert manually to $pkg_fmt |
09:39.45 | Leeds | rpm2cpio |
09:40.37 | Leeds | or you could just use rpm - it's normally installed on a slackware system, and --nodeps should make it install okay |
09:41.59 | Leeds | (or install rpm if you don't have it) |
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10:31.29 | zachary | moin |
10:36.33 | Cope | Hey zachary |
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11:34.37 | gregj | re |
11:34.47 | Cope|PDA | Hey greg! |
11:34.55 | gregj | Hi Steeev |
11:36.29 | Cope|PDA | JD about? |
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11:50.50 | Cope|PDA | Test |
11:50.50 | Leeds | isn't it /window |
11:50.53 | Leeds | or something |
11:51.57 | Cope|PDA | Yep - thanks Leeds. |
11:52.22 | Cope|PDA | Anyway - got pda syncing now. |
11:52.41 | Cope|PDA | Had to upgrade to glibc-2.3.2 though. |
11:53.28 | Leeds | bah binary distribution |
11:53.42 | Leeds | (probably) |
11:55.02 | Leeds | bah, I say again |
11:55.14 | Cope|PDA | btw - www.slackware-live.org - live cd:o) |
13:46.45 | Wethrin | Afternoon |
13:47.45 | Leeds | in some timezones, yes |
13:49.47 | Wethrin | Yes. It is in BST |
13:51.19 | murble | it is in GMT |
13:51.23 | murble | and UTC |
13:51.32 | Wethrin | And CET |
13:51.32 | murble | and CEST |
13:51.52 | murble | Wethrin: CET isn't in use at the moment :) |
13:52.16 | Wethrin | Yes, but it's still afternoon in that time :) |
13:53.45 | Leeds | so... how is everyone? |
13:54.18 | Wethrin | My chari has been taken over my a cat |
13:54.21 | Wethrin | *chair |
13:54.35 | Leeds | my? |
13:54.52 | Wethrin | Yes. My own personal chair. |
13:55.06 | Wethrin | Erm. |
13:55.08 | Wethrin | *by a cat |
13:56.33 | Leeds | sit on it |
13:57.21 | Wethrin | I took the cat ontyo my lap, and he jumped off |
13:57.52 | Wethrin | Cats++ |
13:58.01 | Leeds | Dog++ |
13:58.13 | Wethrin | That too. |
13:58.22 | Wethrin | But dogs take more looking after |
13:58.48 | Leeds | not when he lives 200 miles away with my parents :-) |
13:59.26 | Wethrin | Well....yes :) |
13:59.45 | Leeds | which reminds me... got to book a train... |
13:59.56 | Wethrin | Where's a cheap place to buy blank CDs from? |
14:01.00 | Leeds | I think I bought my last pack at Comet |
14:01.59 | Leeds | not that I'm saying that was cheap... but I bought a 100 pack for 25 quid or something and I've not got through it |
14:18.19 | Leeds | you should get some sleep, you know |
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14:46.35 | murble | well done. |
14:46.44 | murble | Wethrin: when do you start? |
14:48.19 | Wethrin | 22nd September |
14:49.13 | murble | have you selected a pub yet? |
14:51.16 | Wethrin | To be my 'regular' student haunt? |
14:53.05 | murble | well you don't intend to waste any time studying do you?!# |
14:53.21 | Wethrin | :-p) |
14:53.42 | Wethrin | The UCL union bars are quite nice. At least the one a friend took me to a few times |
15:22.26 | eye69 | My very first time driving in the UK (and right-hand drive alltogether) will be while driving a van from Woodford Green to Grays |
15:23.59 | murble | new job? |
15:24.13 | eye69 | Yes, but not doing that. |
15:24.26 | murble | well i should be safly in .lu by then. |
15:24.29 | eye69 | Moving in with a friend in Westcliff until I can afford to get a flat |
15:29.54 | stephen | not ogg? |
15:30.52 | Leeds | more mp3 tools installed by default... |
15:31.15 | Leeds | Solaris now comes with full ogg support - she's using a managed system which is out-of-date :-( |
15:31.44 | stephen | ah |
15:32.07 | stephen | :) |
15:33.35 | Leeds | "My Lord, ladies and gentlemen... My name is Greg Dyke, and I am the director-general of the BBC..." |
15:33.43 | gregj | AND |
15:33.48 | gregj | oups |
15:33.51 | gregj | not here :d |
15:33.58 | Leeds | XNOR |
15:34.11 | gregj | OR NOT |
15:35.18 | gregj | TO BE NULL |
15:35.51 | Leeds | 2b or not 2b, that is the pencil |
15:36.01 | gregj | hyhy |
15:44.01 | Wethrin | "My name is Greg Dyke. And I am director general of the BBC. Not many people know that" |
15:44.10 | Leeds | yeah |
15:44.32 | Leeds | "Hutton - you don't get to question me - I make the rules around here. Got that?" |
15:44.44 | Wethrin | :-) |
16:02.28 | Wethrin | They should just let Brian Perkins take care of it. |
16:02.36 | Wethrin | With his switch-blade. Ohhh yes. |
16:11.35 | Leeds | argh, trains |
16:15.57 | Wethrin | Yes. |
16:18.10 | Wethrin | Bwah. Go standard? |
16:19.02 | Leeds | bah |
16:19.05 | Leeds | possibly |
16:19.15 | Wethrin | Otherwise, you're just being too rich :) |
16:20.55 | Leeds | possibly |
16:22.25 | Leeds | :-) |
16:40.05 | JD | Leeds: hi |
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16:45.10 | Leeds | hi JD |
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17:11.57 | JD | gah |
17:12.24 | Wethrin | Heh. |
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18:23.24 | JD | wb |
18:31.32 | Tarragon | TY |
18:32.26 | JD | how are you?/12 |
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18:54.47 | JD | Leeds: !!! |
18:54.55 | Leeds | no literally... |
18:55.01 | Leeds | no-not |
18:55.04 | Leeds | -== |
19:02.29 | zachary | Leeds: This confirms your geekness, or level of companionship. |
19:02.36 | Leeds | both :-( |
19:05.55 | zachary | bed of pasta, grilled chicken breast with a crab white sauce. |
19:06.27 | Leeds | isn't he Wilde? |
19:10.10 | JD | Leeds: yes but I can't type |
19:31.13 | eye69 | I ordered one medium pizza and one large bottle of pepsi from pizza hut...I got one medium, one large, garlic bread with cheese and the drink...all for the original price.. |
19:48.12 | zachary | gotta go. Study time. :-( |
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20:04.31 | cozmonort | hello |
20:05.09 | JD | hi |
20:07.16 | cozmonort | hi JD how r u? |
20:07.53 | JD | trying to understand you |
20:08.04 | cozmonort | ?? |
20:08.07 | JD | brb |
20:08.11 | cozmonort | k |
20:09.22 | JD | b |
20:09.32 | cozmonort | wb |
20:10.35 | cozmonort | where is everyone ? |
20:10.57 | JD | no idea |
20:11.15 | cozmonort | heh |
20:11.32 | cozmonort | how was ur weekend ? |
20:12.39 | JD | cozmonort: how old are you? |
20:12.51 | cozmonort | 20 |
20:12.56 | cozmonort | y ? |
20:13.34 | JD | just curious |
20:13.43 | cozmonort | k, how old r u? |
20:14.32 | JD | apparently too old |
20:22.19 | cozmonort | bbl |
20:22.28 | cozmonort | cozmonort|away |
20:31.23 | Jenson | heh, you've met who i spent my weekend with i see |
20:31.47 | JD | Jenson: yes |
20:32.04 | JD | lthough I think I might have appeared slightly short with him |
20:32.07 | Jenson | and yeh, he really should learn not to use weird teenage shorthand |
20:32.12 | Jenson | lol |
20:32.16 | Jenson | dont worry |
20:32.22 | Jenson | you're more intelligent anyway :) |
20:32.48 | JD | glad it isn;t just me that gets annoyed with that sort of thing |
20:33.36 | Jenson | i hate it too, esp with text msgs |
20:34.17 | JD | it is even worse in emails or usenet postings |
20:39.24 | JD | so any ideas on sharing /home with a laptop? |
20:39.37 | Jenson | not me |
20:40.41 | nasrat | JD: automount + nis/ldap maybe. Else a bidirectional sync tool such as unison |
20:40.55 | JD | Jenson: do you have a laptop? |
20:41.07 | JD | nasrat: authentication is not a problem |
20:42.07 | Jenson | JD: my mother does |
20:42.40 | JD | running linux? |
20:43.43 | Jenson | no lol |
20:43.49 | Jenson | XP, and she wont let me near it |
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20:57.51 | cozmonort | hello |
20:58.05 | cozmonort | hi Jenson :) |
20:59.56 | Jenson | heya Leeds |
20:59.58 | Jenson | heya cozmonort |
21:00.03 | Leeds | morning |
21:00.27 | Jenson | cozmonort: i found that site that sells that tshirt we saw, but it seems thew dont do that one anymore |
21:00.53 | cozmonort | arg, send link anyway |
21:01.38 | cozmonort | ps ive also found a £5 pound mc donalds voucher |
21:01.47 | Jenson | www.ntk.net |
21:01.54 | Jenson | fsck me, thats mine too ;lol |
21:02.04 | cozmonort | yeah hehe |
21:02.18 | cozmonort | cool looking site |
21:02.25 | murble | cozmonort: recycle it, save you soul. |
21:02.30 | Jenson | have you found a tin of spaghetti yet, coz im surer you've got it |
21:02.41 | Jenson | unless your mother has got it |
21:02.49 | cozmonort | yeah found it |
21:03.23 | cozmonort | murble: nah id rather go to mc donalds and ask 4 £5 |
21:03.35 | murble | cozmonort: I'd rather not go near the place. |
21:04.24 | Jenson | s/Burger |
21:05.02 | cozmonort | hehe |
21:07.46 | cozmonort | ive decided im going to try some other distros ive found on my LinuxFormat mags |
21:08.43 | Jenson | yeh |
21:08.43 | Jenson | try debian |
21:09.11 | Jenson | the mandrake installer is enough to make you want to get drunk |
21:09.18 | cozmonort | havent got a copy |
21:09.21 | Jenson | night guys |
21:09.27 | cozmonort | goodnight |
21:09.34 | cozmonort | talk 2 u later |
21:09.50 | Jenson | i will eventually pick up a full copy of Debain, when i have some money |
21:09.54 | Jenson | seeya |
21:09.57 | cozmonort | bye |
21:20.14 | cozmonort | cozmonort|webwork |
21:55.46 | JD | .net is borken |
21:56.42 | Leeds | the tld or the clr? |
21:56.51 | JD | tld |
21:56.57 | Leeds | yeah? |
21:57.08 | Leeds | how so? |
21:57.10 | JD | do a random nslookup |
21:57.18 | JD | on a non-existant domain |
21:57.50 | Leeds | 64.94.110.11? |
21:58.05 | JD | aye |
21:58.17 | Leeds | nah, that's not broken |
21:58.24 | JD | why not? |
21:58.35 | Leeds | that's just verisign hijacking the DNS for commercial purposes and redirecting all unknown sites to themselves |
21:58.57 | JD | yes as I said borken |
21:59.31 | JD | irc,freenode.net |
22:00.26 | Leeds | but... are you implying that there are protocols apart from http which might be horribly damaged by this move? |
22:01.17 | JD | well not damaged, but there will be some confusion |
22:01.27 | JD | and it will take much longer for things to break |
22:26.07 | Leeds | I do like this small world... |
22:26.24 | JD | ? |
22:27.31 | Leeds | I think I mentioned it before... |
22:27.43 | JD | ? |
22:28.22 | Leeds | when I was in Israel in 1994, we had a couple of 'councillors' attached to the study part of the program, not teachers, more like hall tutors |
22:28.39 | Leeds | (the hebrew word is madrich - means guide or leader) |
22:29.10 | Leeds | one of them was a bloke called Dror (common Hebrew name) who had been in the Navy, played the flute, and liked a singer called Achinoam Nini... |
22:29.45 | Leeds | anyway, it's 9 years later and we are both (somewhat) active members of the official Achinoam Nini online fan club :-) |
22:30.18 | JD | and the small world thing is? |
22:30.35 | Leeds | it's only thanks to him that I'm a fan of hers - went to her concert in London last year (at which the stage was rushed by a couple of anti-Irael protesters) and went backstage and met her |
22:31.00 | Leeds | apparently I'm the only member of the group he's in been in touch with since about 1996... |
22:31.36 | Leeds | it's a small world thing because it's not that big a fan club (couple of hundred members)... there aren't that many active posters (20-30, maybe)... |
22:32.36 | Leeds | is that not a small world thing? |
22:32.56 | JD | no, you met someone with a similar interest |
22:33.28 | JD | it would have been a small world thing if you hadn't known he had that interest |
22:34.02 | Leeds | it's a small world thing because over 9 years and thousands of miles apart... we've got in touch |
22:34.33 | Leeds | by co-incidence - if we'd gone looking for each other, okay - but by accident it's a small world thing |
22:34.39 | JD | but you knew you shared an interest |
22:35.25 | Leeds | not really |
22:35.52 | Leeds | I had a passing interest many years ago - and for all I knew, he'd gone off her when she became more pop/commercial |
22:37.13 | Leeds | anyway |
22:37.28 | Leeds | *I* think it's a small world thing, and since it's my story, I'm sticking to it :-) |
22:37.32 | Leeds | either way - it's nice |
22:40.12 | JD | :) |
22:41.11 | Wethrin | Evening |
22:41.42 | Leeds | evening |
22:41.53 | JD | night |
22:42.26 | Wethrin | Off to bed? |
22:43.10 | Leeds | or just arguing for the sake of it for a change? |
22:43.21 | Leeds | :-) |
22:46.44 | Wethrin | Leeds: Something you've never done before? ;-) (the arguing, that is) |
22:46.54 | Leeds | who, me? |
22:46.56 | Leeds | never! :-) |
22:47.34 | Leeds | actually... while I may carry on arguments long beyond their natural death, I do normally at least argue about something I believe in... |
22:51.35 | Wethrin | Do you believe in extending arguments? :) |
22:53.26 | Leeds | yes, strongly! |
22:54.57 | Wethrin | :) Have you seen the Reduced Shakespeare Company's 'Complete History of America (Abridged)'? |
22:55.53 | Leeds | not yet :-) |
22:56.14 | Leeds | I've only seen their Shakespeare |
22:56.21 | Wethrin | :) Well, I'm semi-planning on seeing it tomorrow. |
22:56.34 | Wethrin | i.e. turn up before the show starts and see if they have student tickets available |
22:56.48 | Leeds | hmm... |
22:56.53 | Leeds | what time? ;-) |
22:57.10 | Wethrin | 8pm start |
22:57.24 | Leeds | hmm... |
22:57.32 | Wethrin | So if you'd like to come and risk possibly finding it's full up... |
22:57.46 | Leeds | possibly |
22:57.58 | Leeds | any particular reason to believe either way? |
22:58.18 | Wethrin | Not that I can think of. |
22:58.30 | Wethrin | They only have the America once a week. |
22:58.37 | Leeds | ah |
22:58.50 | Wethrin | However, also given that it is on a weekday... |
22:58.56 | Leeds | would it be sensible to call them at, say, 1700 and ask about it? |
22:59.06 | Leeds | or even to call in the morning and try to book? |
22:59.12 | Wethrin | Yes. |
22:59.25 | Wethrin | But I want to be cheap and see if I can get a student price :) |
22:59.45 | Leeds | can't book student tickets over the phone? |
22:59.53 | Wethrin | I don't know. |
23:00.15 | Wethrin | It's unlikely, as those tickets tend not to be bookable. |
23:01.04 | Wethrin | However, I might go down there when I get to London tomorrow, and see what their status is like |
23:02.01 | Wethrin | Their box office number is 0870 060 2313 (it's in the Criterion Theatre) |
23:02.24 | Leeds | http://www.reducedshakespeare.co.uk/ :-) |
23:02.38 | Leeds | I'd quite like to see their Bible... |
23:02.45 | Wethrin | Yes :) But I don't think that tells you ticket availability. |
23:02.52 | Leeds | purely for research, you understand :-) |
23:02.53 | Wethrin | Likewise - that's on Thursday evenings |
23:02.59 | Wethrin | Uhhuh |
23:03.02 | Wethrin | :) |
23:04.36 | Leeds | not quite sure how it works, but ticketmaster looks like it thinks there are tickets |
23:05.01 | Leeds | that is - I don't know how live ticketmaster is |
23:05.33 | Wethrin | Reasonably, I think. |
23:06.23 | Leeds | how much are you expecting student tickets to be? |
23:06.43 | Wethrin | < £10 |
23:06.56 | Wethrin | Seeing as £10 is supposed to be the cheapest normal-priced ticket |
23:06.59 | Leeds | right |
23:07.39 | Leeds | considering I'm about to spend 75 quid on a train ticket... and hundreds on Limmud... I can stand to pay for more than the cheapest ticket |
23:07.43 | Leeds | dayjob and all :-P |
23:08.02 | Wethrin | Bah :-P |
23:08.48 | Wethrin | So, err, do you want to book a ticket tomorrow? Or should I do it, if I'm in London? |
23:09.01 | Leeds | you gonna be online tomorrow? |
23:09.08 | Wethrin | Yes. |
23:09.13 | Leeds | arse |
23:09.17 | Wethrin | Until about 2ish. |
23:09.21 | Leeds | GNER "an error has occurred" |
23:09.39 | Wethrin | Uck. |
23:10.08 | Leeds | oh fuck |
23:10.10 | Leeds | bollocks |
23:10.12 | Leeds | arse |
23:10.13 | Leeds | bugger |
23:10.15 | Leeds | and so on |
23:10.22 | Leeds | why are the bloody trains so bloody crap? |
23:10.38 | Leeds | it's sent me back to the start of the booking process... |
23:10.55 | Wethrin | They hire incompetent web designers? |
23:11.34 | Leeds | well duh |
23:12.21 | Wethrin | You could just go to your local staffed railway station and book there |
23:12.33 | Leeds | I'm just waiting for it to come back and tell me the 'cheap' ticket isn't available... |
23:12.46 | Leeds | I can go to Watford Junction tomorrow - want to get this sorted though |
23:13.34 | Wethrin | You can buy tickets through Network Rail |
23:13.41 | Leeds | "The reservation system may not be available from midnight to 6am UK Time." |
23:16.07 | Leeds | last try |
23:16.18 | Leeds | job done |
23:17.22 | Wethrin | Yay! |
23:17.44 | Leeds | but no confirmation e-mail yet... |
23:19.31 | Leeds | my TiVo has recorded a program called "World Famous for Dicking Around" |
23:19.39 | Leeds | it thought I might like it |
23:19.39 | Wethrin | ??? |
23:19.56 | Leeds | hah! on channel 256 :-) |
23:21.52 | Wethrin | 256? |
23:21.58 | Leeds | Sky... |
23:21.59 | Wethrin | You have too many channels |
23:22.11 | Leeds | it seems to be a little like a Scottish Jackass... |
23:22.18 | Wethrin | Ew. |
23:22.43 | Leeds | people hitting themselves over the head with stuff, setting themselves on fire and so on |
23:23.38 | Leeds | apparently - and self-referentially - they're trying to get on TV :-) |
23:25.00 | Wethrin | Oh dear. |
23:26.06 | Leeds | snorting chilli power |
23:28.03 | Wethrin | Don't people have anything better to do? |
23:28.51 | Leeds | the 'back story' is that this is a bunch of lads in a small town which is so boring that no, they have nothing better to do |
23:32.25 | Leeds | anyway, time for bed |
23:32.32 | Leeds | we'll talk in the morning |
23:32.41 | Wethrin | 'night night |
23:32.49 | Leeds | (got the confirmation e-mail) |
23:33.03 | Wethrin | Yay! :) |
23:33.28 | Leeds | night night |