00:05.09 | Wethrin | Dobranoc |
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09:49.23 | eye69 | Hello Tarragon |
09:49.41 | Tarragon | Anybody ever heard of a band called "The Darkness"? |
09:49.47 | Tarragon | Hi eye69 |
09:50.11 | stephen | yes, I've hard of them, but that's about it |
09:52.14 | Tarragon | The Darkness Permission to land CD has a wierd copy protection. False TOC gives an extra track that is just white noise for 33 minutes. Causes Cdda2wav to die. Grip dies as well even if you say don't rip that track |
09:53.28 | stephen | I never buy CDs anyway, they're an absolute rip off, so I don't care :P |
09:55.12 | Tarragon | Ah, not mine. Belongs to one of my nieces and she wants to leave the original at home while at Uni. How she can listen to such rubbish is beyond me anyway. |
09:55.37 | stephen | ah |
09:56.36 | Tarragon | I only play my Aqua vinyl singles anyway :-] |
09:58.24 | stephen | grr, mirror.ac.uk _still_ hasn't got the newly-patched SSH and sendmail packages from a couple of days ago |
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10:41.32 | zachary | moin |
10:41.36 | Tarragon | Moin zachary |
10:49.37 | zachary | New MS virus already on the loose? Had 60 emails this morning, my norm is about 5. |
10:50.57 | Jenson|Away | Tarragon: I've heard of the Darkness, they're from the same county as me |
10:51.07 | Jenson|Away | well, actually they arent lol, coz i live on the border |
10:51.23 | Jenson|Away | anyway, i'm not here, just online researching the ECDL |
10:51.26 | Jenson|Away | gotta go now |
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11:07.36 | Cope | Ahoy! |
11:07.53 | Tarragon | Avast ye landlubber! |
11:14.27 | cup | some mentioned it is pirate day today, who makes this stuff up? |
11:21.05 | Tarragon | talklikeapirate.com - Don't blame me - I got it from JD. Also UserFriendly has it as their cartoon today |
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11:43.35 | Leeds | Wethrin: see the news this morning? |
11:48.25 | murble | news? |
11:49.13 | Leeds | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/showbiz/3121832.stm |
11:52.49 | Leeds | since you asked... |
12:04.39 | murble | not very newsworthy |
12:05.34 | Leeds | we were discussing it earlier in the week |
12:05.47 | murble | oh |
12:08.36 | Leeds | which is why I prefaced my original comment with Wethrin, because I didn't think anyone else would really care... |
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14:04.41 | gregj | ha, i got a visa for 2 years! |
14:05.09 | Leeds | mazel tov! |
14:05.17 | gregj | ? |
14:05.26 | Leeds | congratulations... in Hebrew |
14:05.37 | gregj | dziekuje :D |
14:06.29 | Leeds | did you chase them in the end or not? |
14:08.13 | gregj | no |
14:08.19 | gregj | they respond to my latest letter |
14:08.29 | gregj | i wanted to go there on monday |
14:08.43 | gregj | because i had to give them 5 days for response |
14:11.11 | gregj | hyhy |
14:21.37 | zachary | bbl |
14:34.49 | Leeds | gregj: so does that mean you're legal now? |
14:37.38 | gregj | yep |
14:37.39 | gregj | 100% |
14:39.07 | gregj | :] |
14:45.02 | Leeds | you're still not a Brit - no need to act like one :-P |
14:45.22 | gregj | hehe |
14:45.47 | gregj | i have to vain in croud |
14:46.20 | gregj | maybe this sentence sounds a bit different in english |
14:46.31 | gregj | this is translation, word by word |
14:47.23 | Leeds | it makes very little sense... |
14:47.43 | gregj | sure ;] |
14:48.10 | Leeds | what are you trying to say? |
14:48.13 | gregj | it means that you bahave just like everyone else that surrounds you - so you are part of croud |
14:48.31 | Tarragon | Blend into the crowd |
14:48.39 | gregj | oh, blend |
14:48.55 | gregj | Tarragon: thanks :D |
14:51.00 | Leeds | ah yes |
14:51.51 | gregj | i wasn't sure about this vain |
14:58.43 | Leeds | vain is... someone who cares too much about their appearance... |
15:03.26 | gregj | so rather oposite |
15:05.17 | gregj | ever heard about cross compiler |
15:05.18 | gregj | ? |
15:05.42 | Leeds | um, yeah, of course I have |
15:05.58 | Leeds | it's just easier to work natively... the speed doesn't really bother me |
15:06.14 | gregj | man, you cannot use your ipaq meanwhile |
15:06.20 | gregj | leave it overnight |
15:07.30 | Leeds | it's not my iPAQ... it's HP's iPAQ :-) |
15:07.46 | Leeds | and it doesn't take *that* long |
15:09.50 | gregj | ./yours --help |
15:10.22 | Leeds | what? |
15:11.05 | gregj | well, i said "your ipaq" |
15:11.09 | Leeds | yes |
15:11.36 | gregj | which is incorrrect in your opinion (maybe you are sharing this opinion with hp ;] ) |
15:11.57 | Leeds | I don't understad |
15:12.00 | Leeds | understand |
15:12.08 | Leeds | it is your iPAQ - it is yours |
15:12.19 | gregj | thank you ;) |
15:12.40 | Leeds | it is my iPAQ - it is mine |
15:12.46 | gregj | so it is yours |
15:12.59 | Leeds | it is HP's iPAQ - it is HP's (or it is their iPAQ - it is theirs) |
15:14.56 | gregj | ;) |
15:15.00 | Leeds | yay |
15:15.11 | Leeds | Bram got an NTK write-up for A-A-P |
15:15.26 | gregj | whatever that means |
15:17.56 | Leeds | Bram = author of vim and A-A-P |
15:18.26 | Leeds | A-A-P = cool build/install/download framwork thing written in Python with various Euro-funding and a fledgling IDE growing around it |
15:18.57 | gregj | mhm |
15:19.15 | Leeds | NTK = Need To Know (*the* weekly high-tech sarcastic update for the uk) - you should *really* read this if you don't already - ntk.net |
15:20.16 | gregj | i will |
15:21.43 | Leeds | I've met one of the two blokes who run ntk a few times - good bloke... and both of them are very good friends with a very good friend of mine |
15:23.14 | gregj | cool |
15:23.46 | Leeds | and A-A-P is certainly high on my list of things to get addicted to :-) |
15:24.10 | gregj | hehe |
15:24.39 | gregj | and qt |
15:24.42 | gregj | cute :D |
15:25.49 | Leeds | A-A-P is better... if for no other reasons than a) Python b) vim and c) approximately named after the Dutch word for monkey :-) |
15:30.13 | gregj | ape is monkey in dutch afair |
15:31.04 | Leeds | I did say approximately - anyway, that's what Bram said when I asked him about it at FOSDEM... |
15:32.48 | gregj | "SCUMM VM" |
15:32.50 | gregj | cool name |
15:33.00 | Leeds | ha, yes |
15:33.04 | gregj | it really makes me keen on running it |
15:33.09 | Leeds | it's very cool |
15:34.22 | gregj | i've order yesterday some materials from m$ . basicaly, that will try to convince me to use microsoft software |
15:34.38 | Leeds | ordered = free, I hope |
15:35.10 | gregj | if it will come as bunch of .docs. i will reply - hang on, this ment to be something that has to convience linux ppl to sell windows over linux |
15:35.17 | gregj | how should i open this, i don't have windows :D |
15:35.24 | gregj | 3.5$ usd |
15:35.32 | gregj | scums |
15:35.35 | Leeds | openoffice :-P |
15:35.38 | gregj | m$ never gives anything for free |
15:35.50 | Leeds | now if it comes as self-extracting .exe files... you're screwed |
15:35.52 | gregj | hang on, i am talking about real docs - pdfs and so on |
15:36.10 | Leeds | so? |
15:36.55 | gregj | openoffice/star office _can_ open .doc. But that does not mean that it opens it correctly |
15:37.36 | gregj | and i can tell you, m$ guys don't care about whether it will or not open in anything else but their office |
15:37.56 | Leeds | (mplayer still building, btw) |
15:38.08 | gregj | apt-get install mplayer-686 :D |
15:38.48 | Leeds | for arm? |
15:38.49 | Leeds | :-) |
15:39.09 | gregj | hmm, let me see... |
15:39.10 | gregj | yes |
15:39.13 | gregj | there is debian for arm |
15:40.42 | Leeds | you really think I don't know that? :-) |
15:42.24 | gregj | yes |
15:42.25 | gregj | :D |
15:44.30 | Leeds | bugger |
15:44.34 | Leeds | it failed on the final linking! |
15:44.46 | gregj | hehe |
16:12.58 | Leeds | hmm... |
16:13.07 | Leeds | the failure is in a function called licomb_y_mmx |
16:13.17 | Leeds | which doesn't immediately sound useful on the iPAQ |
16:13.50 | Leeds | doh! |
16:23.49 | Leeds | woo! |
17:08.10 | gregj | a sash hi |
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17:27.46 | Leeds | finally! |
17:27.47 | SpudULike | Hmmm, Dead Ringers on soon. And guess who has tickets for the recording on Tuesday 2nd October??? ;-) |
17:27.54 | Leeds | cool |
17:28.06 | Leeds | people are talking like pirates in #handhelds.org :-) |
17:28.31 | SpudULike | It is National 'Talk like a pirate' day. |
17:28.40 | Leeds | well yes, obviously |
17:28.48 | SpudULike | Shiver me' timbers. |
17:28.58 | Leeds | indeed |
17:29.26 | SpudULike | It's no fun being a pirate on the canals! |
17:29.33 | Leeds | heh |
17:29.43 | Leeds | board that barge, men! |
17:29.45 | SpudULike | Make someone walk the plank and they just run off down the tow path. |
17:30.25 | Leeds | and I'm sure the locks get in the way of running from the Royal Navy |
17:31.38 | SpudULike | Not sure on that, I think the British Waterways police are only allowed to go at 5 miles an hour. |
17:31.57 | Leeds | really? |
17:32.38 | SpudULike | Yeah, which is why they go everywhere by car/van. |
17:32.46 | Leeds | heh |
17:33.06 | SpudULike | Must be murder driving with waders on. |
17:33.06 | Leeds | I think my dad defended someone once who got done for speeding on a jetski... |
17:33.13 | Leeds | flippers? |
17:33.20 | SpudULike | ;-) |
17:33.53 | SpudULike | There must be speed limits for inshore waters. |
17:34.10 | Leeds | yes... |
17:34.45 | SpudULike | OK, gotta go, chat later. |
17:35.10 | SpudULike | Me'hearties! |
17:36.12 | Leeds | seeya |
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18:44.05 | Jenson | stephanb: can i send you a weird song? |
18:44.23 | stephanb | Jenson: you can indeed |
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18:52.14 | Jenson | heya Leeds |
18:52.22 | Leeds | foo :-) |
18:52.34 | stephanb | Leeds: bar |
18:52.47 | Leeds | don't mind if I do |
19:05.06 | stephanb | Leeds: how are things |
19:05.17 | Leeds | not bad... you? |
19:05.32 | stephanb | just come back from holiday, quite good |
19:05.39 | stephanb | :-) |
19:05.48 | Leeds | where? |
19:05.58 | stephanb | biarritz (southwest france) |
19:09.12 | Leeds | something very disturbing is pointed out by TiVo... |
19:09.39 | stephanb | Leeds: whats that ? |
19:09.42 | Leeds | it records any time, night or day... |
19:09.56 | Leeds | overnight there are a lot less ads, and some of them are for porn... |
19:10.22 | Leeds | during the day, a shocking number of ads contain the phrase "CCJ" or are otherwise about dodgy financial services |
19:12.43 | stephanb | Leeds: CCJ ? |
19:12.57 | Leeds | County Court Judgement |
19:13.18 | stephanb | Leeds: ??? meaning |
19:13.40 | Leeds | meaning that you've lost a case in the county court... |
19:13.53 | Leeds | in this case, I think it means "was sued for unpaid bills" |
19:14.00 | JD | hi all |
19:14.11 | stephanb | Leeds: meaning these companies who advertise have been sued for not paying their bills ? |
19:14.15 | Leeds | ah, JD will know :-) |
19:14.49 | JD | most people will not touch you if you have CCJ (on the grounds you are a bad debt risk) |
19:14.52 | Leeds | stephanb: they're all ads for "lost your job, lost your house, lost your credit rating, get a loan from us to pay for your other loans!" |
19:15.09 | JD | they will give you a loan for a huge interest rate |
19:15.57 | stephanb | JD: like these shopping "cards" |
19:16.07 | JD | stephanb: no |
19:16.21 | Leeds | the point is that all the ads are "watching TV during the day? you must have no job and no credit rating!" |
19:16.30 | JD | stephanb: they normally won't touch people with CCJs but still have silly interest rates |
19:17.13 | stephanb | capitalism is unfair, whats new about this ? |
19:18.30 | JD | stephanb: it is more that neoliberalism that is shit |
19:18.30 | Leeds | it's not so much the capitalism - although these firms are purely preying on the vunerable - it's more the fact that you don't see those ads in primetime or latenight, only during unemployed-viewer time |
19:19.13 | JD | Leeds: I think that is partly due to lower costs |
19:19.47 | Leeds | I don't think so |
19:19.51 | Leeds | well, yes |
19:21.02 | Leeds | that's maybe why those ads aren't on in primetime... |
19:21.22 | Leeds | but it's the sheer number of them - and the scariness of them - which gets me |
19:22.30 | JD | yes |
19:23.16 | stephanb | the number of middle class 30yo women dressed as rock stars fallen off the back of a limo scares me |
19:23.30 | Leeds | ??? |
19:23.52 | stephanb | there are many things in this society that scares me |
19:24.12 | JD | stephanb: like Jenson? |
19:24.31 | stephanb | no not jenson |
19:24.41 | JD | you mean she doesn't scare you? |
19:25.19 | stephanb | not in the dimension of a "fallen" society |
19:25.24 | JD | really? |
19:26.20 | stephanb | she doesn't come across to me as a selfish bitch who wants the kids, the career and the lot |
19:26.25 | stephanb | but i may be wrong |
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19:36.03 | JD | well I've just seen 2 loan ads on E4 |
19:38.22 | JD | the thing about these ads the bother me is that they tend to take a loan unsecured loan and changes it to a secured loan |
19:38.32 | JD | so if you default you lose your house |
19:38.49 | JD | plus they suggest you take out extras for car/holiday/home improvements |
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20:56.34 | Leeds | argh |
20:57.40 | JD | argh? |
20:57.49 | Leeds | tivo |
20:58.06 | JD | recorded big 'n' busty for you? |
20:58.42 | Leeds | decided to record Dead Like Me on Wednesday rather than now |
21:05.59 | JD | oh |
21:06.12 | Leeds | just confused me, that's all |
21:06.27 | Leeds | any good? |
21:06.39 | JD | so you have already recorded it or you have to wait until next wek? |
21:06.44 | JD | hmm not sure just yet |
21:06.56 | JD | ask me in 15 minutes |
21:07.11 | Leeds | I will record it in 5 days |
21:09.56 | JD | :( |
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21:10.31 | Leeds | :( = don't like it, or :( = pity having to wait |
21:10.43 | JD | latter |
21:10.52 | Leeds | ah |
21:11.17 | JD | seems like clarrisa knows all but with death |
21:11.39 | Leeds | um, okay |
21:12.26 | Wethrin | Evening |
21:13.06 | Leeds | hey |
21:14.58 | Wethrin | How goes? |
21:15.40 | murble | oh good evening |
21:15.41 | JD | it goes |
21:15.43 | JD | just |
21:17.16 | murble | and maybe merryhell |
21:17.19 | JD | took me nearly 3 hours to drive from chelmsford to bedford |
21:17.49 | murble | that is quite a time, what were you doing in chelmsford? |
21:18.34 | murble | the other evening it took 3/4 of an hour from Stansted carparking to High Wycombe, going at the standard continental speed of 200kph on the motorway... |
21:18.40 | Jenson|Away | chelmsfod is 4 mins from me by train |
21:18.55 | murble | Jenson|Away: all the more reason to avoid it :) |
21:18.55 | Jenson|Away | er |
21:19.00 | Jenson|Away | 45 lol |
21:19.00 | Jenson|Away | i cant tpye |
21:19.11 | Jenson|Away | i knew sitting here zand not saying anything was a better idea |
21:19.22 | murble | why? |
21:19.31 | murble | how entertaining is that? |
21:19.32 | Jenson|Away | coz im not making sense |
21:19.36 | Jenson|Away | im tired |
21:19.54 | murble | yeah, you are, well you should be unerstandable for people who normally trun and read murblish. |
21:19.59 | murble | s/trun/try/ |
21:20.14 | Jenson|Away | lol |
21:20.17 | JD | murble: I wouldn't bother correcting |
21:20.26 | JD | Jenson|Away: you nearly scared me then |
21:20.41 | JD | murble: I was working |
21:20.42 | Jenson|Away | JD: lol |
21:20.49 | murble | JD: sounds fatal |
21:20.55 | murble | who'd want to work/ |
21:21.00 | JD | that isn't the half of ot |
21:21.01 | Jenson|Away | JD: you must come down here and see my town sometime |
21:21.08 | murble | I was on holiday today and did more work than i normally do when working from home. |
21:21.11 | JD | Jenson|Away: /your/ town? |
21:21.25 | Jenson|Away | JD: yeh :) like i own the place :P |
21:21.34 | JD | murble: I told work that I wasn't going to do anymore unpaid overtime |
21:21.44 | murble | haha |
21:21.58 | murble | I don't think that would work for me. |
21:22.05 | murble | is anyone else here planning to linux.conf.au? |
21:22.28 | Leeds | no |
21:22.33 | JD | murble: I had thought of it |
21:22.51 | murble | you can get a return flight for 750 quid atm inc taxes. |
21:23.13 | Wethrin | £750 is a bit steep just for a geekthing |
21:23.22 | JD | Wethrin: but it is LCA |
21:23.42 | Wethrin | it's not a Gllug meeting ;-) |
21:23.45 | Leeds | Wethrin: I agree |
21:24.07 | Wethrin | Now if I was to have a holiday at the same time there, maybe it wouldn't be so bad. |
21:24.16 | Leeds | argh... every Sky program I watch on TiVo from this week... has trailers for Dead Like Me... |
21:24.19 | murble | with a stopover in Kuala Lumpur |
21:24.20 | Wethrin | Or if someone paid me to go. |
21:24.29 | Wethrin | But it's during termtime. |
21:24.40 | Wethrin | Costa? |
21:24.42 | JD | Jenson|Away: you found a follower? |
21:24.46 | Jenson|Away | Wethrin: yeh |
21:24.46 | murble | Wethrin: that is the point, you go for more than just the length of the converence. |
21:25.00 | Jenson|Away | JD: yeh, well i found him ages ago lol, but then we had a fight lol |
21:25.04 | Leeds | murble: I went to Hong Kong on the way out and Bangkok on the way back... |
21:25.15 | murble | Leeds: how much was the flight? |
21:25.22 | Leeds | um... |
21:25.34 | Leeds | not relevent to this discussion... |
21:25.57 | Wethrin | Leeds is rich enough to afford it :) |
21:26.05 | Leeds | I had help... |
21:26.12 | JD | murble: it should (or is that just my nickcolor script?) |
21:26.18 | Leeds | flew on two different airlines... |
21:26.26 | murble | JD: /ignore doesn't seem to do it. |
21:26.27 | JD | Leeds: isn;t bangkok a shithole? |
21:26.34 | JD | murble: oh |
21:26.34 | Leeds | JD: pretty much |
21:26.46 | Leeds | HK is very nice though |
21:26.56 | JD | Leeds: there are nicer places in .th |
21:27.04 | Wethrin | Bangkok is okay for about half a day to see the touristy bits. |
21:27.06 | JD | and shame that it is now .ch |
21:27.15 | JD | to get away from you? |
21:27.22 | Wethrin | Miaow. |
21:27.23 | murble | and about 200 $us / night just for hotelage. |
21:27.26 | Jenson|Away | JD: no lol |
21:27.40 | JD | murble: I have a renewal of vowes to go too |
21:27.45 | Jenson|Away | Wethrin: how are your cats? |
21:27.51 | Wethrin | Erm. They're fine. |
21:27.55 | Leeds | JD: I didn't feel any .cn type of pressure |
21:27.55 | murble | JD: the old ones where wearing out. |
21:28.15 | JD | murble: clearly |
21:28.32 | JD | murble: in st lucia in Mar 2005 |
21:28.36 | Jenson|Away | but im not going |
21:29.14 | JD | Jenson|Away: how do you know you have been invited if you aren't going to get invited until tomorrow? |
21:29.36 | murble | JD: well clearly that will be too late. |
21:29.54 | Jenson|Away | lol actually i was invited yesterday |
21:29.56 | JD | murble: by a few weeks/months |
21:30.00 | Jenson|Away | well i was already invited |
21:30.14 | Jenson|Away | but i whinged about not knowing what to wear |
21:30.16 | JD | murble: and is also slightly out of the way |
21:30.19 | Jenson|Away | and now i have no money |
21:30.24 | JD | Jenson|Away: wear black |
21:30.30 | murble | Jenson|Away: was it in the uk. |
21:30.40 | Jenson|Away | murble: yeh, north east london |
21:30.48 | murble | well my only tie is black... |
21:30.51 | murble | i don't do weddings |
21:30.56 | murble | only funerals. |
21:31.00 | JD | murble: I have 3 ties |
21:31.35 | JD | I prefer 3 piece suits |
21:32.17 | Jenson|Away | night boys :P |
21:32.28 | Wethrin | nn |
21:32.36 | Jenson|Away | night Wethrin |
21:33.30 | murble | JD: burtons? |
21:34.19 | JD | murble: you know, the clothes shop |
21:34.41 | murble | oh clothing retailer. |
21:34.52 | murble | so you had to have alteast one tie per day you worked there? |
21:34.59 | murble | hmm + 1 for the interview |
21:35.05 | JD | no, but I had lots |
21:35.27 | murble | of interviews? |
21:35.46 | JD | ties |
21:35.49 | JD | I have less now |
21:36.04 | JD | interestingly the first tie they gave me is still my favourite |
21:38.48 | murble | they gave you a tie for free! |
21:38.56 | JD | yeah and other things |
21:39.16 | murble | what was you role there? |
21:39.37 | JD | clothes |
21:39.42 | JD | sales assistant |
21:39.56 | murble | oh talking to custardS? |
21:39.58 | murble | how horrible. |
21:39.59 | JD | I did end up as join in charge of shoes |
21:40.04 | JD | joint |
21:40.06 | murble | that is like 1st line support by worse. |
21:40.31 | JD | at least the product was more reliable |
21:42.44 | murble | I hope so. |
21:59.30 | Leeds | argh |
21:59.36 | Leeds | "could care less" |
22:14.56 | Wethrin | Should I install Slackware on this laptop, or Hurd? |
22:15.24 | murble | Wethrin: do you not want to use it, or do you not want to use it. the choice is yours. |
22:15.36 | murble | choose freebeard. |
22:16.22 | Leeds | depends on if you want to use it or not |
22:16.23 | Leeds | arggh |